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70774786 No.70774786 [Reply] [Original]

Who's the next holomem to graduate? It's inevitable; it will probably even be this year. My vote goes to Akirose. She's unpopular, a low-earner, and has struggled to maintain a loyal audience since her debut.

>> No.70774878

>>70774786
I wanna Aki so bad.

>> No.70775109

>>70774786
>nijinigger are trying this hard
still trying to drag homobeggars and unicorns into it so we forget Niji's fuck ups huh.

>> No.70775185

>>70775109
Am I wrong? Do you think every single holomem will stream until they die of old age?

>> No.70775305

Hopefully Ollie

>> No.70775323

>>70774786
Did this post fall though a time portal from 2020 or is this thinly-veiled unicorn whining because Aki started collabing with boys?

>> No.70775428

>>70775323
She was never going to hit a million anyway.

>> No.70775442

>>70775185
Yeah you are wrong for being a nijinigger,
Try again when NDF isn't actively falseflagging and Niji isn't yabbing. You looking for deflection, not real answers.

>> No.70775557

I have diarrhea and thought I should share that info itt since this is currently the worst thread on this board

>> No.70775578

>>70774786
Probably one of the older ones.
Isn't Korone almost 40?

>> No.70775596

>>70775442
The only question I posed was who in hololive will graduate next, and your hostile evasion of the point pretty much confirms to me that you also think Aki is on her way out.

>> No.70775617

>>70774786
>She's unpopular
hello time traveller

>> No.70775694

>>70775323
It is a falseflag nijinigger, they got caught falseflagging as unicorns on that doxsite. To get you homobeggars seething so they can get more stars hate to benefit Vox.

>> No.70775713

>>70775617
Am I wrong or are you hallucinating that her sub count hasn't budged in over a year?

>> No.70775794

>>70775694
lol Vox couldn't be more of a pariah if he tried. He's dead in the water just like the rest of NijiEN.

>> No.70775854

>>70775596
Your insistance on strawman tactic confirmed to me you are in fact a nijinigger, cut yourself harder sister.

>> No.70775926

>>70775854
I accept your concession. But let's be honest, you knew I was right before you first posted and were just trying to feebly back your preferred 2view.

>> No.70775924

>>70774786
Aki has actual friends now and is having the time of her life. She's not quitting anytime soon.
The next ones in the graduation line are the menheras dealing with depression and burnout.

>> No.70775982

Real answer is Shion, they’re just waiting for after Fes. For EN it’s Ame, she’s beyond done at this point, unlike Gura she doesn’t even show up for optional stuff. She’ll probably go until her contract ends in Aug/Sept, probably won’t even have a graduation stream.

>> No.70775995

ahem
I think op is a faggot

>> No.70776010

>>70775323
>started collabing with boys
Asino-san forever forgotten.

>> No.70776041

>>70775596
Nah you’re an idiot who has no idea what Aki is doing nowadays.

>> No.70776110

>>70775926
Your strawman tactic isn't going to work nijinigger, go back to getting BTFO by Offkai and seething about it nijikek.

>> No.70776163

>>70776110
I. Accept. Your. Concession.

>> No.70776331

>>70775982
Shion has bursts of interest. She might come back and be super energized for six months... and then vanish for another five.

>> No.70776390

>>70775794
Nijiniggers don't speak logic, they already tried Doki vs Holo and Doki vs Sayu. Falseflagging as unicorns and trying to sabotage Stars are just more pathetic attempts.

>> No.70776518

>>70776163
Total. Nijinigger. Death.
You can falseflag all you want, it won't stop the next Niji yab.

>> No.70776554

>>70776518
Or the next holoyab. And it's coming, brony.

>> No.70776598

>>70776163
The only thing you accept is my cock, faggot

>> No.70776623
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I'm forever going to associate this "I accept your concession" cop out with the seething sisters now, lmao.

>> No.70776639

>>70774786
>Who's the next holomem to graduate?
My mom.

>> No.70776727

>>70776623
gor years now I see retards post it
the real meaning is "I lost the argument"

>> No.70776769

>>70776554
>admit to being nijinigger
HAHAHAHAHA. I accept your defeat, goodbye nijibrony.

>> No.70776774

>>70776554
2 more weeks

>> No.70777463

Of all the people you pick Aki as if the poor woman hasn't had enough shit to deal with her career. Ah yes the chuuba whose views have doubled in the last 6 months, who consistently puts massive effort into her lives, whose superchat revenue has skyrocketed is going to retire after years of struggling.
Seriously, never fucking have kids. The world doesn't need more retards like you.

>> No.70777489

>>70776727
>>70776623
It's often misused, sadly. "I accept your concession" is properly used when your opponent has stopped arguing their point and resorts to deflection, ad hominems etc.

>> No.70777678

aki's gachis has long since abandoned her ass two years ago, shes irrelevant now. is she going to graduate ? nope shes happy being homos cumdumpster while eating breadcrumbs from her small views money, like laplus the whore.

>> No.70777680

>>70777463
Relax, anon. It was just another sister making a negligible slide thread.

>> No.70778252

>>70777463
nobody is sacred, faggot. you know where you are

>> No.70779110

>>70774786
You're a nijisister so you should kys, but you're right, she's at least top 3 for candidates to graduate, I hope it'll be Laplus though

>> No.70779359

>>70776010
He's did some music for her birthday live. They haven't done any acoustic streams because he's been getting more work and also joined a band.

>> No.70779765

>>70779110
fuck you got against lacroix?

>> No.70780042

Anons aren't realizing this >>70776554 is a threat. They're telling us their next course of action. If there aren't any holoyabs they're gonna start -forcing- some.
Be vigilant, be aware, the next campaign is coming.

>> No.70780279

>>70775713
Homobeggars think that tourists count as true viewers, let them have their moment.

>> No.70780425

>>70780279
is it bad that I consider blue homo tolerable because he's an accessory/prop for kobo

>> No.70780455

>>70777463
The world doesn't need more women that manipulate men too, Aki is just Amaranth(idk her name)for delusional weebs

>> No.70781043

>>70777463
Who's picking on her? Only facts have been stated.

>> No.70784471

>>70774786
Likely Moona or Mumei

>> No.70787339

>>70774786
>has struggled to maintain a loyal audience
That's how you know this is clueless drama bait

>> No.70787424

>>70774786
me

>> No.70787526

>>70784471
Mumei just recently called out her ability to put her streaming career on hold for her well-being as an enormous and fortunate asset. She is not leaving any time soon.

>> No.70787640

Lamy or moona

>> No.70790395

>>70775982
I want Amelia to graduate to management.

>> No.70790456

>>70774786
It is never ever who we expect.

>> No.70790476

>>70777463
Let alone her song with an invented language, and the only holo capable of belly dancing. She has gone through heaven and earth to make it work. She wont quit anytime soon, not after finally tasting some success. These newfaggots need to show some respect to the Chuubas who worked for it

>> No.70792074
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70792074

>>70774786
Aki used to have loyal fanbase

>> No.70794298

>>70790476
>belly dancing
Whore dance, not surprised she "practices" it so much she needed a hip surgery
>song with an invented language
Yeah, that was kino, but it's the only good thing she ever did since her debut.
I won't respect someone just because they stayed longer in the company, that's like comparing Fubuki with Matsuri, both stayed the same time there yet Matsuri only gives drama and menhera breakdowns while Fubuki is one of the pillars of hololive(even though I particularly don't give a shit about her)

>> No.70794545

>>70790476
And what has she done with it since? It received very little traction, which is surprising for an original song. Aki is in the same boat as Choco: They're legacy mems, not expansion mems.

>> No.70795840

>>70774786
you should kill yourself

>> No.70796110

>>70780279
Implying dead subs and low ccv is better than higher ccv

>> No.70796925

>>70795840
Your oshi is on her deathbed. I hope this news hurts you.

>> No.70797855

>>70774786
No one has left Hololive without controversy.
Coco said thst it was because of creative difference we all know thst if the chinese incident didnt happen she probably would still be there.

Aloe was harrased and tried to kill herself after.

Rushia relationship was exposed and she threw and she lost her mind trying to defend herself.

Mel broked her NDA

Hololive is too good of a place.
They're mini celebrity and some like Suisei,Pekora,Aqua just to name a few are celebrity in japan.
They can take as many break as they need and their hardcore fan will still support them,They have no pressure from the company to do anything except holofes once a year.

So unfortunately the next time someone quit its probably gonna be again because of a controversy

>> No.70798222

>>70797855
Sana

>> No.70799948
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70799948

>>70780042
>Gura
>Unicorn
>Holostars
What else?

>> No.70800188

>>70775185
Why the fuck do you even care?

>> No.70801345

>>70774786
clipwatcher

>> No.70801477

>>70798222
EN is entirely different, besides she never gave a fuck to begin, it's like the difference between a guy who works to sustain his family and a millionaire that works just for the fun, one of them have a way easier time to quit

>> No.70803001

>>70798222
Honestly I was sure that that I wrote except Sana in my post but I didnt.
Sana was something else she was the Runt if holoEN had a good career with the chinks and didnt seem able to do it like Ina working badically full time for both her art job and cover.
I dont think that if she was as popular as Mumei or Kronii Sana would have quitted.
Between two job the first where your already established and the second where you barely started and struggle to gain in popularity I would choose my first one too.
Was kinda miffed wnen I learned that her back wasnt hurt tho could have just told the truth.

>> No.70805198

>>70803001
>Was kinda miffed wnen I learned that her back wasnt hurt
How did you learn that? She never said it, it's just a dramafaggots rrat.

>> No.70805275

>>70805198
She outright admitted it on her RM/PL account after she left Holo, no?

>> No.70805507

VCRGTA2 has been really good to Aki, I really hope to see her more with Ebio, they have good chemistry.

>> No.70806368

>>70805275
No, that's the dramafaggot interpretation. She said she was healthy. At the moment. That was not even some new info, her acute back pain went away before her graduation. But this shit always comes back if you are not careful, which is probably why she chose to not continue doing two sitting jobs simultaneously.

>> No.70808785

I'd be surprised if a JP left, barring a life-changing event, moving elsewhere in Cover, or outright retirement, considering a departure from your employer in Japan often means the death of your social circle. An ID or EN leaving is more likely to me, but I couldn't say who for sure. Maybe Kronii since she never seemed to be big on the idol/vtuber thing, but she also seems to have gotten more comfortable lately (from what I've seen, which isn't a ton).

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>>70805507

>> No.70810594
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>>70810362
What is this spreadsheet supposed to show? Except the depths of your numberfaggotry.

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>>70810594
Yes.
You claim that Aki's new direction has been good for her, a claim with no evidence. When hit with evidence, you resort with name calling.
Aki's lost half her core audience, while her new audience keeps dwindling away every month. She has to put in 4 times the effort to get the same result, and I bet it's even worse for her merch sale.
Her most recent 3Dlive was her thirds least superchated, only beating a much lower effort one from 2020 and she barely beat out her very first one from 2019. You can imagine the subscribers/view count difference between 2019/2020 and now.

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>>70811551
Cool story, now do the same thing for Miko. Surely it's because of all here male collabs, right?

>> No.70811731

>>70811619
It's not just about the 3D lives.
Her average peak CCV for VCR in October was 20,161, for Stars/Ecelebs streams it was 13,159 in November, average peak CCV for VCR in December was 17,146, Stars/Ecelebs streams in January had an average peak CCV of 12,274, and in February it was 7,730.
Aki made $6,271 in superchats from VCR in October, $4,428 from VCR in December, $1,547 from Stars/Ecelebs in January, and $1,040 from Stars/Ecelebs in February.
Her new audience is leaving.

>> No.70811832

>>70811731
>Post a retarded autistic spreadsheet about 3D lives.
>Get BTFO
>B-but it's not about that

>> No.70811836

>>70800188
He posted Aki, one of the older members of hololive with korone and mio. I think his insinuation is that people born in the 80s are 'too old' to keep vtubing and should know their age. Oddly, vtubing kind of began as a refuge for people who aged out of fleshtubing, due to having a real job and being unable to be stacyXXX on twitch without getting fired.

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>>70811832
I have a ton of spread sheets. I choose the 3Dlive one because it was the simplest to read and understand. It wasn't even the first one I posted >>70792074

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70812106

>>70774786
I like Aki, she is very sex

>> No.70812180

>>70812063
I'm sure the rest of your data is just as meaningful. You should consider upping your meds. Or just end the suffering.

>> No.70812260

>>70812180
Yeah, I'm sure Aki would love you.

>> No.70812434

>>70812063
So she's streaming more and getting more money now, but that's somehow a bad thing?

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>>70775578
>me when mr. koro retires

>> No.70812515

>>70812434
She's getting less money.

>> No.70812612

>>70812515
Your graph says otherwise

>> No.70812989

>>70812612
I've look at the numbers for longer then you. She's down in each category. She had a boost in January and February from the New Years stream and her 3D live, but she won't have those to boost her for the rest of the year.

>> No.70813214

>>70812989
>She had a boost in January and February
And October, and November, and December. So she IS getting more money. >but it will go down, trust me

>> No.70813460

>>70810362
>>70811551
>>70812063
>>70812515
>>70812989
>B-but muh money! Think of the poor unicorns!
Aki has friends now and she doesn't have to hang around with numberfag whores every day. Why does her happiness make you upset?

>> No.70813497

>>70774786
Never mention my wife again you fucking faggot

>> No.70813575

>>70798222
Council was a huge fucking disaster to begin with

>> No.70813614
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>>70813214
Did you not notice how many hours she's streamed since October. In all the months before that, the more she streamed, the more superchats she got. Also, she got no boost in November.
She streamed for 90 hours in June 2023 and, excluding her 3Dlive and adjacent streams, she made $11,028. ($22,926 including her 3Dlive and adjacent streams).
She streamed for 125 hours in February 2024 and, excluding her 3Dlive and adjacent streams, she made $3,729. ($13,254 including her 3Dlive and adjacent streams).
She streamed for 282 hours in October 2023 and made $7,390.
She streamed for 21 hours in January 2023 and made $4,993.

>> No.70813900

>>70813614
>the more she streamed, the more superchats she got.
This might have been true for her for a few months but is a retarded statistic in general. If a fan has a set amount of money to give you, it doesn't matter whether you stream 1 or 8 hours a day. Gura/Ayame/Shion etc. should be unreachable queens by this metric, but it is indeed as meaningless as the rest of your data.

Are you by chance the "La+ lost 10k ccv" moron btw?

>> No.70813909

>>70813460
>she doesn't have to hang around with numberfag whores every day
OK Holo anti. You mean the people she include in her 3D live. The people she still collabs with. Would Aki be happy if she read what you just called her friends.

>> No.70813911

>>70790456
exactly this. I'd personally be most shocked to see peko or marine leave. maybe one of the gamers.

>> No.70813965

>>70780425
Yes.

>> No.70813979

>>70774786
hopefully kronii

>> No.70813982

>>70774786
You need to look at who really hates doing an easy job, where they still get paid for just existing.
Gura streams 4-5 times per year, why would she give that up when people blow smoke up her ass about how great she is and should rest as long as she needs?
Shion and Ayame come and go as they please, and while they both have their fanbases, they would be missed more than Rushia but less than Mel.
Ina is lazy and doesn't really care about her fans, as she took 3 months off without any updates or info despite pretending that she would do so - then lied about how she forgot her phone before she left, but still managed to meet and greet with JP Holos during that time. I hope she's the next one to go, she's been dead to me since last year. It's not that she didn't give us any updates, it's that she lied about needing to take a break for medical reasons and that she'd still be active outside of streams.

>> No.70814036

>>70813982
>but still managed to meet and greet with JP Holos during that time
>she lied about needing to take a break for medical reasons
Where does this come from?

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>>70813900
>it doesn't matter
>meaningless
Cope
The amount of streams you do does effect how many superchats you get.
Also, I'm fine with Laplus. Well really, I don't really care.

>> No.70814349

>>70813900
>>70814201
Yea anon didn't know that fans have more money to send for supas when talent streams more. Based logic btw

>> No.70814382

>>70774786
She still makes more than she would anywhere else and has friends in the company, why would she leave

>> No.70814549

>>70774786
the next Holomember will graduate once niji declares bankrupsy and get their talent to do JAV.

>> No.70814585

>>70814201
Wow, another graph that has very little to do with the point you're trying to make. Let's compare Kaela and Ayame then. Oh, wait, almost like there are another factors to consider here.
It doesn't matter how long you look at numbers, you need to analyze them correctly. I'm not even claiming that I can, but you've proven beyond any doubt that you can not.
>I'm fine with Laplus
Fuck, so there's more of you number schizos.

>> No.70814643

>>70774786
Nijisisters still think Hololive talents still need to graduated
Talents can just stay hiatus and only came to company for recording and 3D program and fuck off for another years.

>> No.70814676

>>70775185
The voice of Goku only retired after age 70+, sis

>> No.70814677

>>70774786
People are fucking retarded when it comes to numbers. Even the poorest-performing Holos still live comfortably off streaming, and it isn't the type of job that's hard to perform into middle age. They will quit when they feel like quitting.

>> No.70814778

>>70814585
Are you kidding me with that response.
Kaela stream by far the most in ID and makes 37% of the entire branches superchat revenue. The highest JP member is Koyori. Pekore, Watame, and Korone are at the top of JP. Most of the people at the top of JP stream a lot or at least an average amount. FuwaMoco, Kiara, Fauna, and Calli are at the top of EN. Gura, Ame, and Ina are at the bottom.

>> No.70814889

>>70810362
>>70811551
>>70812063
>>70813614
>>70814201
Now you're just showing off your data to compensate your lack of critical thinking. You think you can look smart or something by just posting and transcribing graphs?

>> No.70814975

>>70814889
absolute seethe

>> No.70815183

>>70814778
>stream a lot or at least an average amount
So you admit it doesn't matter whether you stream a lot or "an average amount"?

If you want to only limit comparison to one branch, let's take Marine or Aqua vs Luna or Mio. Still doesn't work, eh?
You are just throwing around random graphs and brainlessly collect meaningless data.

>> No.70815220

>>70774786
Aki should be smart enough to realise nobody actually cares enough about her to make jumping off the Hololive gravy train worthwhile.

>> No.70815356

>>70815183
>>70815183
Exception proves the rule, idiot. Saying the evidence is meaningless and brainless doesn't mean it actually is, child. You're just the brainless reactor. Well, react to this: I'm going to sleep.

>> No.70815532

>>70815356
>proven to be wrong and wasting his time
>out of arguments
>delusion crumbling
>you're an idiot, a child, and I'm going to sleep
Typical, good night.

>> No.70817768

Why tbe fuck does OP have such an autistic grudge against Aki of all people? She is so sweet and seeing her finally get some success was cathartic. OP, you have graphs and charts, but you have no idea how to read them.

>> No.70818697

>>70817768
maybe a fan of her gfe asmr? It was pretty good.

>> No.70818855

Imagine saying that a Hololive member esp JP would graduate because of popularity, you can be the most unpopular member in Hololive and you would still do better most other vtuber, fucking retard I swear and yet this retard still deny being called a nijinigger when he thinks exactly like one, this isn't Nijisanji where your unpopular members are unironically 2-3view and get no support from the company

>> No.70819366

>>70818855
Aki put out that beautiful song and MV before she had her emotional stream about not being successful. If anything, Cover works hard to support their talents

>> No.70822379

festivals ramping up her rm streams so she might be gone soon.

>> No.70822591

>>70812106
interfacing

>> No.70822814

>>70822379
Why? Seriously please give a single reason why she or anyone else would leave willingly. As you've aptly pointed out Cover doesn't even stop them from doing their side gigs if they want to.

>> No.70822963

>>70774786
When will she stop collabing with e-celebs? She was my oshi before she started spamming that shit.

>> No.70823976

>>70818855
>you can be the most unpopular member in Hololive and you would still do better most other vtuber
Even fucking Holostars members earn enough to convince the talents to stay in Holostars.

>> No.70824445

>>70775305
actually gave up on trying, nowdays just enjoys stable paycheck
>>70775578
from streaming? unlikely. I don't think she's in for stage shows for much longer, given her injuries
>>70776331
can't hold audience like that(see chama struggling for reference)
eventually, but not this year

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>>70774786
>fucked her voice permanently
>struggles to keep up with dance choreos
>most of the stable fanbase has moved on
>no more ongoing project (SKDW) to hold her down
>babyfever

picrel

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>>70814057

>> No.70824975

>>70824720
Marine would be a good bet. She has nothing left to prove to anyone.

>> No.70825638

>>70822379
I wish but what would she even gain by leaving? You have to realize that the most selfish talents who display non-idol like behavior have even more of a reason to take advantage of their position as much as possible and there's not that many reasons to leave such a comfortable source of money when you think about it.

>> No.70825954

>>70825638
base salary might be sufficient, but It's not that amazing.
and it's not like they can roll their thumbs and get paid, nobody seems really too enthusiastic about their company homework

>> No.70826406

>>70774786
what an absurdly stupid comment to make. how long did it take you to figure out that nobody is a vtuber forever? sister, this is not the even bait

>> No.70826901

>>70825954
>base salary might be sufficient, but It's not that amazing.
It's still better than your average wagie for much less effort if they intend to be lazy.
It's not like most of these girls have some hidden career path that would be more profitable either, the most common conclusion for most retired successful vtubers including the Holo girls is...streaming, because that's their main talent and nobody wants to go from that to being an office slave or something similar.

>> No.70827128

>>70774786
I have an idea, leave it or take it
Instead of posting the most boring threads ever to try to deflect attention from your sexpest overlord (who'd rather cut his dick off than having sex with you), can you actually brainstorm on your discord or smth to try to do something interesting for a change ?

I mean humiliating you girls is fun but after a while even that starts to be a bit boring

>> No.70827312
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>>70774786
Unpopular

Has 864,000 Subscribers

>> No.70827518

>>70827312
It was the one good thing Reddit ever did

>> No.70828098

>>70827312
Please don't compare holos with indies or nijis. If you're in holo for more than 3 years and doesn't have 1 million subs you definitely is unpopular(among them)

>> No.70828254

>>70818697
Going to take this opportunity to shill Aki's Nekoze Punch. Please have a listen.

>> No.70828287

>>70774786
when she was collabing with fbk, polka, and robo a few days ago, her ccv was 8k which is pretty high. at least research a bit before posting garbage

>> No.70828474

>>70797855
Sana left without controversy.

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