/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>70734088
Kek

>>70734088
Nijisanji is the HOA of vtuber.

>>70734088
are you fucking serious? no wonder elira let this mangerial shit got to her head the rules and contracts itself promotes a corrupt powertripping scenario/workplace

>>70734088
I still don't believe that she spent 200k on these "projects".
Feels like it leans more on 20k.

>>70736828
The MV alone was 15k and the outfit contest was 5k, plus we know for a fact that she had to comission artists directly several times after Niji screwed up the legal paperwork

>>70736828
CAD is worth a lot less than USD for what it's worth, so it actually would come to about 140k.
Honestly, think about how many projects she has going that would be a year or two out due to management slacking. She's also super hungry and a workaholic so without a manager to rein her in, I can totally see her spreading out to do 10+ projects at once and wasting everything. This is why Mr. Man is so important to help her keep things focused.

>>70736263
KEK

>>70734088
that makes sense

>>70734088
>Be in nijisanji
>Work
>Tip the company
>Negotiate a sponsor
>Tip the company
>Don't work
>Tip the company
>Get bullied
>Tip the company

>>70734088
And remember that they can just cite an infraction on a whim because the rules are vague and selectively applied, as hinted at by not 1 or 2 but 3+ talents :^)

>>70741230
Who are we referring to here? /gen

Did contract leak? Post eet

>>70734088
BIG IF TRUE

>have to pay the greater of the amount made during the infraction or the amount earned for the company over the last 12 months

>Pomu already tweeting she has to be careful about how much she's spending
>Selen made 0 profit after her spending
>Nina had to move back to her mother
>Mysta left Niji with crippling debt
What is the fucking point of joining NijiEN again?
It certainly doesn't appear to be money.

>>70743237
Presumably it was a great way for college students to make money even with the 2% profit in merch sales, but this makes it sound like a super shady business at that point, like we’re only a few steps away from finding out it’s a yakuza front.

>>70743237
The only one I'd defend Niji on is with Mysta, dudes a dumbass and unironically thinks savings accounts are a scam.

>>70743237

>Selen made 0 profit after her spending
>get a paycheck for 20k
>spend 20k on cocaine
>WHERE'S MY MONEY?????!!

Am I being bullied at my work too? Should I also find a youtube lawyer to sue my employer?

>>70743588
you do it for free sister

>>70743237
Mysta's debt is taxes, so if he can't pay them that means he spent all his money on something. So it's not really a problem if he bought a house or some shit, but if he spent it on some niji shit projects with no returns like an MV then he's fucked his life hard.

>>70743237
Making friends and happy memories!

>Article 123 Friendships
>The Company has a private-friendship-ownership policy. No employee will express any form of affection towards another employee, with the exception of managers, and with the exception of Public Relations Activities. All bonds of affection formed between employees while active with the company, would not have been formed otherwise, and are therefore company property. In the event of termination of the contract, said friendships must be returned to the company headquarters and placed beside milestone-awards.

>Article 124 Memories
>We will erase your entire existence we don't like you >:(

>>70743237
I think this is mostly them being financially irresponsible with the exception of Nina, she never made that much money in Niji to begin with.

>>70743566
I recall Mysta claimed in a stream that he used an accountant recommended by niji, so I wouldn't put 100% of the blame on him. Sounded like he got real fucked by his taxes. Wouldn't be surprised if they did something dumb like mis-classifying him as a contractor.

>>70744360
At first he got his own accountant, he left the country for a bit then came back just to find out the accountant fucked up and now had to pay a ton of money in taxes. Then he went with Nijisanji's recommend accountant for help which I assume they didn't really have any good advice about his tax issues.
Considering no one else in NijiEN had tax issues even Vox someone who lived in the same country as him I'm more incline to believe Mysta was mostly at fault.

>>70743237
The family!

>>70743562
The yakuza are an Anycolor front.

i still watching the video but holyshit this contract is amazing. KEK
"Vtuber training" if you don't show up we will fire you, OMG

>>70743237
But the leaker said they live more comfortably than during their indie lives? Or maybe Pomu is being careful because the japan trip is expensive and she doesn't have a steady income for the forseeable future. It's just sensible if she's not going back to waging and she's back in school.

>>70743237
There are a lot of jobs that advertise themselves as "you pay us and you can use our brand and we get a cut of your profits" MLM schemes.

>>70743588
How does it feel like to have an oshi who doesn't care about giving back to his fans and just pockets your superchats?

>>70746337
It gets so much worse

>>70747061
vox gives cock to his fans

>>70734088
>my liver has to pay for my drinking

>>70734088
>Livers have to pay for infractions
>Rules for what counts as infractions are arbitrary and management decides on a whim with clear favoritism
>Elira is basically management and has the power to actually financially punish talents she doesn't like and extort money from them
>"Nice personal project you got planned there, buddy. Wouldn't want to have anything happen to it now, do ya? Remember to pay the protection fee on time so that no unforeseen permission problems come up, heh..."
HOW DEEP DO THE RRATS GO???

>>70734088
>selen wants to hold an art contest
>she wants to pay the artists prizes out of her own pocket
>niji sabotages it and then hits her with an infraction fine
>all the money that would have gone to the artists now goes straight to them instead
so it's not that niji is incompetent, it's that they managed to set up a system where it's more profitable for their talents to fail than it is for them to succeed.

>>70747614
>pay for my antarctica trip or it would be a pity if you got fucked up for more

>>70745475
>Vox
Part of the clique. Reason why would he didn't have any "problems"

>>70743237
Seems like if you're a mediocre bum who wants to do nothing important you're going to be okay like the clique but if you want to do anything ambitious (read: not being mediocre) you're going to get fucked twice because the clique will be on your ass.

>>70747614
>>70747775
>Elira is...
Stop there, retards.

>>70748114
what are you gonna do about it, write me up for an ""infraction""?

>>70748114
can't even leave without paying the niji tax KEK

>>70748114
Only if you tell why you didn't get along with Selen since day 1, shit's been bothering me for years.

>>70748638
Except if you watched all their stories before Selen termination you'd know it wasn't true. None of the people here watched anything anyways. You guys were only into it for the drama. After even the contract got out you guys still acted like retards.

>>70748804
>since day 1, shit's been bothering me for years
this isn't even about the recent stuff

>>70736828
It was essentially in monopoly money.

>>70748114
elira needs to an hero desu

>>70748920
>watched some clipper
>holy shit she said something, let's quote this
First. They shat on each other all the time it's like their selling point. Second, they used to borrow each other stuff and hang out at Selen's place if you watched the last streams. Nina still keeps in contact with Elira and Pomu and she was one of the livers terminated. If the gurrat was true then they wouldn't do that.

>>70749609
>watched some clipper
Watched Selen literally since day 1 (on and off, but still).
>they used to borrow each other stuff and hang out at Selen's place
Doesn't look good in light of bullying allegations, at all.
>Nina
Is not indicative of anything, she's a social predator with only her own interests in mind.
>Pomu
Decided to gtfo altogether.

>>70750065
I... I'll keep waiting before saying anything. Not after any of them three have a say in the matter after Anycolor goes bankrupted. I'll still hold my hope.

>>70748114
Even if you don't believe that Elira is a manager, the fact that she not only thought it was a good idea to host that black screen vid on her channel was incredibly suspect. Nevermind the fact that she was listed in Selen's legal document along with Millie and Enna, and how Enna basically gaslit herself recently into thinking that she's a good person.
In the wake of these developments coming to light, its hard to view Elira or even most people close to her as the "good ones" anymore.

>>70751171
I'm in despair.

>>70751171
its not a suspect when you consider that the clique are also posting on sisters website. they are as deranged as their fans.

>>70748638
Honestly, same thoughts. Been watching them for a long time. I always chalked it up to them liking different games and having totally different styles of streaming. But after a while…the lack of acknowledgement between one another was unusual.

>>70734088
The biggest infraction is not being part of the clique

>>70745475
the reason he is now on vshojo is because gunrun helped him with his taxes, so presumably 3 accountants fucked up

>>70747691
>she wants to pay the artists prizes out of her own pocket
she HAD to because niji refused to give any prizes

>>70750065
nta, but i always felt when watching Nina it was like she was trying to meta game people, always analyzing and shit. idk what about her made me think that

>>70757214
Could have worded it a bit milder I guess, I didn't mean she was actively malicious. Just opportunistic and generally uncaring.

>>70743562

The whole thing seems like Riku tarted it as a "get rich quick business following the trendy new thing called vtubing". It seems like he doesn't really care about any of it and will just as soon sell it off and do something else...

>>70761117
>The whole thing seems like Riku tarted it as a "get rich quick business following the trendy new thing called vtubing".
He literally admitted to this during an interview

>>70761274
You can check out the interview, including his "work ethic" here:
https://careerhack.en-japan.com/report/detail/971
https://careerhack-en--japan-com.translate.goog/report/detail/971?_x_tr_sl=ja&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc

>"Actually, the reason why I decided to compete as a virtual YouTuber was because I thought it was a business that was suitable for a short period of time ."

>>70734088

>You are free to graduate any time (you can't work for 6 months after that)

>>70743237
>Mysta left Niji with crippling debt
Owing 400k in taxes means he made 1.2 million dollars in a year..

>>70734088
>Uh, honey? Dee's Nuts is a copyrighted trademark. That'll be $1000.
>Fuck off, retard
>Notice: Termination of Zaion LanZa's contract

>>70747481
yeah reimu

>>70748804
>the egg is NDF
yup, checks out

>>70743588
Cry about it, sister, Nijisanji still won't be at that convention

What a scam

>>70743588
you should beg the normie lawyer for a collab so we can all laugh at you livestream.

>>70743237
Did you forget Pomu had a trip to Antarctica? Do you think it cost five bucks? Selen organized more projects than anyone and was pretty open about constantly overpaying artists. Mysta literally bought two houses.

Nijisanji sucks but trying to pretend you can't earn money there is retarded. You can absolutely get rich there.

15k$ weren’t for the video… but for the infraction… that’s why it was a loss

>>70768998
>Except if you try to go against management all that is repossessed including your personal propriety and then they can decide where and when you work.

>>70769143
Yes.

>>70734088

>>70743237
>Mysta left Niji with crippling debt
NGL 3/4 of those sound like financial illiterate people.

>>70743566
Savings accounts are indeed a scam, you generational neet retard. You are not beating inflation by parking your money on a savings account so that the bank can use it to issue more loans thanks to fractional reserve banking.
Smart people park their money on stable ETFs, bluechips w/ high dividend yields and gov't bonds when the spreads are good.

>>70743237
And don't forget. Three of those were big dick members of NijiEN. And one is Mysta, I don't know if he was big I don't care about male vtubers.
Now think about how fucking bad it is for an absolute failure like Aia.

>>70761738
Mysta owed 350K in taxes AND tax-related fines. He racked up several penalties/infractions by failing to file, deposit, and failure to provide international information reports.

He did not owe 350K solely in taxes.

>>70742235
Watch newest Legal Mindset stream. He covered the leak contract

>>70772330
t. mysta

>>70734088
I assume that's pretty normal? Or not?

>>70772978
No, you don't personally pay for mistakes done while performing your job, unless maliciousness can be proven.
You can be fired or disciplined in other ways.

>>70772911
but he is right, gov't bonds are the safest because they are literally backed by gov, your bank can go bankrupt over one night and often bonds are indexed by inflation rate.
ETFs are good because they are strictly regulated and basically just reflects major markets indexes like S&P XXX etc and long term (15-20+ years) market always win

>>70773564
Dunno why we are back in finance, but this. If you are a newbie and are just looking to save your money, especially if not in EU, gov't bonds.
You don't gain much at all but the only way you lose is if your government somehow crashes and burn. And at that point the loss are the last of your problems.

>>70734088
profitable