/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>70675681
>NijiEN is kil
no.

>>70675681
total nijiniggers death

>>70675681
link the full version or (you) are gay

>>70675744
Give it a month, They are flatlining right now, Doing worse numbers than even UPROAR on the holostarjp side, and armis is straight up Mogging them at this point

Elira's hairy pussy on my face

>>70675681
Based

>>70675681
wait, should I hate or love Elira now?

>>70675681
I love evil women. Correction is my favorite fetish

Out of all the many ways they got BTFO, the best part is knowing that they actually read all the hate they get everywhere

>>70675744

so how much do Nijisisters spend on copium each month?

>>70675681
There needs to be more Elira rape art.

>>70675822
>>70676033
It's a meme you dip

>>70675681
I fucking hate her

now give me the full image anon before I start hating you

Just GET RID OF ENNA god dammit, I just fixed the branch. That's all it would take. But they'll never do it because they're stupid.

Ruh roh...

>>70675904
Depends.
If you want to correct her with your dick, or if you're into serving powerful women full of themselves as a footstool, then yeah go ahead and love her.
Otherwise, apathy is what you should shoot for. Hate is a sign that you care, after all.

>>70675904
both, she's a double agent

>>70676529
This is the one with the dog right. kino.

>>70676529
>>70678799
Yeah, good shit.

Do you think we can leak her shotacon past to the sisters?

>>70675681
Selen killed it, selfish cunt. betraying her friends, ruining careers, just for an MV. I hope she rots in hell.
>b...but muh bullying....
grow the fuck up, be an adult and just do your job, it doesn't matter if everyone is your BFF or not

>>70680059
I'll laugh at your face when they do collab with pomu in their pl

>>70675904
Always love Elira, it's the right thing to do. The moral thing.

>>70676529
Oh shit, it's another aloucreep classic.

>>70680059
Sister, I know it's hard to fathom, there's a better life in the rest of the world outside of toiling in a sweatshop and only taking the train home for the New Year.

Im amazed how quickly it all went to shit. If you told me janauary 1st that pomu quit and elira is the most hated now i wouldnt belive it. I knew selen was going to get fired that much was obvious but how they handled it was all self inflicted. In 1 stream elira ruined her whole rep and there was no actual reason to do it.

>>70675681
She's just misunderstood like pic related.

>>70680059
>friends
>just let everyone shit on you and take it like a spineless loser
You might be genuinely retarded. Like actual visible damage to the brain kind of retarded

>>70680059
>Anonymous
Sister, go take your pills and stfo.

>>70675681
Full version?????

>>70675681
Literally encased in a block of cement with her ass sticking out at the bottom of Tokyo Bay.

>>70675744
Where were you when NijiEN was kill?

Jokes aside, how do we achieve TOTAL NIJI REVIVAL?

>>70681251
Big sis Elira ASMR.

>>70675681
TOTAL NIJISISTERS DEATH

>>70679911
>shotacon
Wait you're not supposed to make me like her.

>>70680059
>She betrayed her friends

You guys never grew up past highschool eh ?

>>70680509
who likes all their coworkers? no one loves their boss and everyone they work with. it doesn't matter, do your damn job

>>70676402
*and Millie

>>70681417 (me)

And also, either you sisters are genuinely bad people, or you never worked/haven't any idea of what a really corporate environment is like.

Cuz if you did you wouldn't have that kind of speech

>>70681434
Is this the sad state of 16 year old Chinese girls? Damn.

>>70681434
Or she could put in her 2 weeks (ask for graduation) and get ignored. Nijisanji got what they deserve

>>70681434
The fact that you completely missed my point proves you are 100% retarded. On top of being a loser with no self-confidence and a complete lack of self-worth

Niji needs to hire better people. The highschoolers are not enough.

>>70681251
You don't!
:D

Speaking of Niji, Mr Legal man got his hands on a contract
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJUy4pfwXLU

>>70682056
dis gon b gud

>>70682056
what the fuck

>>70682056
that can't be a niji contract... right?
must be from another corpo

>>70682056
As much as I dislike this faggot, I legitimately can't wait for this.

>>70680059
lol

>>70682291
It does directly state "Nijisanji VTuber Contract," I guess we'll see...

>>70682056
If this is real, go hug your threads.
I don't think the catalog will survive impact with this one.

>>70682056
How the actual fuck would he get his hands on something like that? And even if was leaked to him from inside Niji, I can’t imagine just being in possession wouldn’t open him up to all kinds of legal retribution by Anycolor.

>>70682549
Surely it won't be that bad, right?

>>70682721
Anycolor isn't the Military, being in possession of any of this doesn't open him to legal liability. The one who leaked it? Yeah, but not him.

>>70680059
>Selen killed it
How? All Selen did was privately ask for her release.

>>70682056
Why does this keep happening to Niji? How much more bad karma can they have?

>>70682721
He's not the only one who have copy of niji contract

>>70682056
Jesus Christ, how. HOW?

HOW THE FUCK HASN'T THE NIJYAB CONTENT DRIED UP BY NOW?

>>70682884
Yes, but unlike FalseEye has the balls to talk about it. The dramafaggot isn't going to talk about it, unless it's trending on twitter.

>>70682936
Niji EN is a bottomless well of malfeasance. It'll never dry up.

>>70682723
Realistically it will probably just give us the purest source confirming 2%sanji and maybe proof that the talents can't actually leave at will, proving Milord to be a fucking liar.

Nothing catalog shattering though.

>>70680059
Elira, come back to stream. I loved your last blacked stream, cannot wait for sequel...

>>70683081
Good. I like my threads lazy and slow

>>70683081
The funniest will be Niji promising to fund the liver's projects snd project related commissions.

>>70682723
>>70683081
What I'll be looking for is a liquidation clause. Rrats aside, I'm 100% sure Elira, Vox and Ike knew how bad it'd look, so they had little choice. I assume it went something like this:
>You have to do this
>We do not want to do this
>If you do not want to do this, we'll consider that you've terminated the contract on your end (instead of us terminating the contract). If it's you who terminates the contract you own us $60,000 (or $500 a month for the next 10 years).
>Ok, we'll do it.
I'm sure they must have some shit like this. Also expect Vox to be technically correct, except you'll have the above clause where you can leave whenever you want, you just have to pay an absurd amount in damages.

>>70683376
It's gonna be extra fucked if this is real, since these types of clauses either have a hard time limit (usually of a year or less), or are basically non-enforceable in NA.

>>70683480
>non-enforceable in NA
But aren't they in Japan right now?

>>70683376
Man, I wouldn't put it past them. Didn't some other agency try to do this? Force the vtuber to repay them for the model?

>>70682056

oh shit

>>70683614
There's 0 chance those models haven't been repaid a hundred times over at this point. Maybe even more

>>70683536
International contract law requires you to sue in the defendant's jurisdiction, and it would be Anycolor suing the liver for Breach of Contract, so the jurisdiction that actually matters is whever the respective liver lives. So Canada for Elira, UK for Vox, and wherever bottleman lives.

>>70675681
Wtf I love Elira now!

>>70683614
You can technically put anything in there - travels, investment in MVs and projects, second outfits, etc. To be fair a court would heavily reduce this or just cancel outright, but lawyers aren't cheap either.
>>70683680
Maybe the original, but what about second outfit? What about traveling expenses to Japan? Maybe even the renting cost for equipment they provided for free? Also if the contracts are on an year-to-year basis they can easily just pile new things into it.

>>70675868
funny how nijien started collapsing pretty much right after pomu left

>>70682549
>7hours
fuck maybe ill wake up in time for the meltdown

>>70675744
Actual cope, lol.

>>70683938
Dokikeks can't even recognize old culture.

>>70683858
Pomu was the one keeping shit together with her elf magic. Unfortunately, she drained herself in the process.

>>70683781
Considering all the donos, SC and whatever they get from memberships, I'd say a lot of that has been paid back

>>70683858
Pomu was tardwrangling Selen relationship with NijiEN, it's not a surprise that Selen got full menhera after Pomu announced her graduation, and is not a surprise that Pomu never contacted Selen after graduating and chose Elira side.

>>70681183
i was sat at home eating pagpag when my sister yell to me
"nijien is kill"
no...

>>70684214
You really tried sneaking in that little bit at then end huh

>>70684072
Probably, wouldn't be surprised if the court saw it that way too. We're still talking about the "you got 3 hours to sign this" company and if the tremendous trio didn't have a lawyer on speed dial I can see them getting spooked.

>>70682056
Should do this a week from now to maximize the damage on 3/14
Any bets on the leaker? My bets are either Kuro or Matara or one of the current livers
>Doki
No chance. She just wants to do her own thing and not be involved anymore
>Sayu
Timing is too fast. She literally mentioned the silencing contract the other day, and she's smart enough to at least discuss with LM for a few days before letting him do this
>Yugo
Even less likely than Doki
>Kyo
Still a clique member so this does not benefit him
Kuro and Matara have the least to gain from this, but they also have nothing to lose

>>70675681
She's also killed trillions of my sperm but nobody seems to care about that.

>>70684322
But it's the true, Pomu hasn't interacted with Selen at all since she left beside some support messages, Pomu has been in Japan with Elira since like a month ago, and they meet with some more people like Nina, Vox and Ike.

>>70684472
It was Pomu.

>>70684472
Nah, releasing it now will give it time to filter to Japan. If he does it a week from now shareholders would find out too late.

>>70682056
the canadian Malfoy lawyer should review it too, having the perspective of lawyers from different countries would be great

>>70684472
It's 100% Sayu since she left she realized that shitting on NijiEN give her some drama views, and after the Selen drama it got even better when it comes to views, she is to this day still mentioning nijiEN to gain views.

>>70684472
>Kuro and Matara have the least to gain from this, but they also have nothing to lose
Yeah, a gig at vshojo is "nothing to lose".

>>70677751
>If you want to correct her with your dick, or if you're into serving powerful women full of themselves as a footstool, then yeah go ahead and love her.
i am into both of these things

>>70684472
Who else other than Sayu honestly.

>>70684684
So do you have actual proof that she met with other nijiniggers or nah?

>>70684472
Could be someone from ID, could be someone within the company that just got his graduation postponed.

>>70684214
>sister fanfics
you will never fit in

>>70680358
I still can't believe that black stream actually happened. Before that, things were bad but at least salvageable. Now NijiEN is probably screwed. At least it's funny to watch the implosion.

>>70684214
Factual and true.

>>70681275
she was actually pretty good at asmr even though hers was basically just zatsu, she has a nice soft-spoken voice. it's even better now that i know she's evil

>>70681183
apolgy for bad english, raffians

where were you wen nijisanji en is die

i was offcollabing with advent at mister donut when pon de ring

"Niji is kil bi****au au"

"hœh"

>>70685060
Polka ASMR is also just zatsu lmao.

>>70684751
Based if true. No one is off the table at this point.

>>70684937
Yeah, their twitter podcasts, Nina/Matara mention meeting a certain fairy and some friends in Japan, Elira being in Japan ever since the Selen drama, Pomu mentioning meeting with some friends from her old job, Vox and Ike mentioning being in Japan the last month and meeting friends, and the both of them appearing on the black screen stream that was made in Japan.

Not even trying to defend Enna or the Clique, but Selen was never really best friends with Pomu at best they were work friends, Selen was dependent on her and Ike after she decided to alienate herself from NijiEN and leave the discord server, it's weird how the only two people she was close in the branch, don't care about her anymore. But that doesn't mean that Enna, Reimu and Millie should be forgiven.

>>70685263
>not a single link
So no proof then. Nijiniggers truly are incapable of not making shit up.

>>70684472
Could an ex-manager or ex-management staff be leaking this instead?

>>70684472
Could be absolutely anyone. Maybe even Elira. I can easily see Selen/Doki's suicide attempt fucked her up mentally, since she was never hoping to escalate it to this point.
My money is on either Sayu or Scarle. Scarle because she's looking for any avenue to gtfo, but the SC money she's bringing to the table is holding her hostage.

>>70685306
Not gonna spoon feed you, search it yourself, and I can't link Pomu twitter acc without getting banned.

>>70685237
Fellers really try to convince themselves that Pomu had nothing to with the clique or bullying just because her content was good

>>70685376
>Maybe even Elira
Revolver Pendora strikes again.

>>70685306
You can got to her twitter and check. No one is obligated to spoonfeed you.

>>70685380
And here we have the nijisissy coping. Also you can link Pomu's twitter account just fine, I saw links to it never get deleted in plenty of thread :)

>>70683858
>Only real person with professional business experience being an office lady
Unbeliebale

>>70685475
Okay retard, then link Pomu account.

>>70685405
Fuck off, i'm willing to give even fucking ELIRA the benefit of the doubt. Do you think she wanted to drive Selen to suicide? No fucking way.
And you cleanly don't know anything about Pomu as a person. She's too meek to do this kind of shit

>>70685598
ok nigga tweeter.com/pomu

>>70685380
>and I can't link Pomu twitter acc without getting banned.
But you said that Nina/Matara mentioned it multiple times, as did other nijis. Surely you can link them right?

>>70685263
All the evidence is Pomu interacting and spending time with Matara/Kyo/Mika and other vshojos, not with anyone else in Nijisanji

>>70685263
>nina
cant say that she met pomu for obvious reasons
>vox ike
they said friends so not pomu because she was not unpersoned.
>elira
lol

>>70684821
>>70684915
Fair enough, good on her if she chooses to try to finish off NijiEN

>>70685598
DeerSkin. You figure out the rest

Watching nijicucks trying to paint Pomu as the biggest bully in NijiEN and failing spectacularly has been entertaining. I wonder what other angle they will try to use to shit on Selen/Doki?

>>70685762
Yeah, Pomu is definitely a bully. Remember the model swap minecraft when she said "Selen's making a big pookie dookie". She knew.

>>70685757
There's not a single hint on her twitter that she met with nijifags. But she has no problems talking about meeting up with her old indie friends like Emuri, or Maddie, or even Kiara's roommate. Turns out, she didn't met with any niji organs while in Japan.

>>70684990
Good point, I forgot about ID. It could even be the 4th Krisis member

>>70685762
sisters already forgot that pomu used an opportunity to shit on nijisanji despite the silencing contract kek

>>70685828
Chinkmu my beloved

>>70685848
She met with my mom and my uncle who works for Nintendo.

>>70685762
Sisters straight up memoryholed that Pomu left the Secret GC stream within minutes, then went on Minecraft and said "nah that shit got too real for me".
Pomu's good for bants, but once it stops being bants she's out.

>>70685762
Lmao, no one is saying that Pomu was a bully, she was one of the most professional people in NijiEN, she just wasn't close to Selen outside work, like she was with Elira. If you actually watched Pomu you would know that they NEVER meet IRL even once.

>>70685003
Yup, prior to that they could have pulled off a "Selen was a workoholic and overworked her managers to the point where they couldn't perform properly, causing problems, and she refused to pace herself, so we had to break with her". Now they turned it into "yeah Selen says she was being bullied and harassed, also here's a stream where we harass Dokibird in case anyone thought she was just over reacting :^)"

>>70684472
I'm going to say "no" on Matara. She has gone to great lengths not to interact with whatever drama Niji is at any given moment. Sneaky implications about how fucked her time in Niji are one thing, but she wouldn't touch anything that could actually put her on NDF's hitlist.

>>70685971
>If you actually watched Pomu you would know that they NEVER meet IRL even once.
OH NO NO NO NO NIJISISTER WHAT IS THIS
https://archive.ragtag.moe/watch?v=1tST1uZN6_Q

>>70686010
She's trying to do her own thing and live. Not be a broken sad girl like Sayu. Not only that her fans used to get shat on a lot by sisters.

>>70682056
>Riku, preparing his parachute:
>NO! PLEASE GOD NO

>>70685971
The proof is in the thread anon >>70685933

They meet once, I think

>>70685365
This is far more likely the case. It doesn't make sense for anyone to leak their own contract.

>>70686085
Yea I doubt Matara is close to Ethyria after all the 3thyria bullshit. Also lmao at that 3thytia monkey's paw.

>>70684990
god imagine if the contract leaker was mika melatika

>>70686165
She met up with Millie at the end of January.

>>70686061
Obviously AI generated.

>>70686165
I don't know, 2 months after graduation she hung out at Reimu's place during a Reimu and Rosemi off collab.

>>70682056
Would love this to be true but this smells like bullshit.

>>70684472
It's Luca Ocelot. The timing is in response to Riku's parachute plan (the loan margin trading change). Riku could in theory escape on/before march 14. They want to destabilise the stock right as it's supposed to pump so it goes into freefall instead.

>>70686165
Since she debuted on Vshojo she has meet Reimu once, while she has meet Millie and Enna multiple times

>>70684472
>Kyo
Kyo's not a true believer like Millie or Enna; I get the feeling that he only joined the clique because the alternative was getting bullied. If he thinks he can gain more from dumping on NijiEn than defending/ignoring it, he will take the opportunity faster than Patches can kick you off a cliff.

>>70680059
Oh, she did her job. She did her job much better than Elira. That's why Elira fucking hated her

>>70686139
A single corporate mandated collab means nothing.

>>70686331
>Kyo's not a true believer like Millie or Enna; I get the feeling that he only joined the clique because the alternative was getting bullied.
Wow, coping about some gay dude with black mannerism. Kyomie... I...

>>70686206
Based stinky cunt woman

>>70682936
They keep digging and they keep finding.
>>70684472
Apparently Nux got to see the contract before and just yesterday he collabed with the lawyer.

>>70686356
Proof? If she hated her so much surely she'd slip up every now and then out of anger.

>>70685152
I love ruffianposting. My new favorite kind of post.

>>70686502
Proof of fucking what, nigga? That Selen was more successful? You fucking ousted yourself as males-only watcher at BEST. That Elira hated her? That can be inferrred from the black screen stream. She tanked the reputation of a billion-dollar corporation just to fuck with her and see her have a panic attack live on stream

>>70686374
It wasn't corporate mandate, but calling them friend for off collabing once is a little too much.

As far I remember Pomu off collabed or meet offline, pretty much everyone but Reimu, Yugo, Zaion and the latest wave TTT

>>70686411
People say that Kyo is a backstabber so why can’t he backstab the clique?

>>70681305
Pedo kys

>>70686411
Don't get me wrong, I think he's a slimy, opportunistic scavenger with no moral principles. But he knows where the wind is blowing, and knows when to jump ship.

>>70686850
Average low to moderate viewers twitch streamer mentality

>>70681251
That's the best part, you don't

>>70686704
>That can be inferrred from the black screen stream. She tanked the reputation of a billion-dollar corporation just to fuck with her and see her have a panic attack live on stream
Yeah, that's not proof. That's nonsense and a convenient explanation you made up to justified a conclusion you came up with ahead of time. I meant signs of animosity in the past. Try again.

>>70681251
I'd buy click girls being beat voicepack

>>70687153 (me)
>to justify
auto-correct lmao

>>70681082
My diving lessons are finally going to come in handy.

>>70684472
It's Petra. She finally got tired of being used and grew some balls

>>70686411
I've never watched his stream, only seen a couple of clips of him, and I don't get why he speaks like that (especially with his voice AND his model). Was he raised by negros or whats the deal with him?

>>70681251
Elira has to give a footjob, simple as

>>70687334
He's white, but probably grew up in an inner-city around a lot of blacks and adapted theit speech and mannerisms because of it.

>>70685263
>Nina/Matara mention meeting a certain fairy and some friends in Japan
Yeah, and that was notPomu in addition to Kuro, Kamigoo, iPN, and Giri. No mention of NijiEN.
>Pomu mentioning meeting with some friends from her old job
She never EVER said she "met with friends from her old job". I've listened to every single Space and she never said that.
>Vox and Ike mentioning being in Japan the last month and meeting friends
Half of NijiEN is in Japan right now.

>>70680059
>I I have friends, n no they're not bullying me, I it's just playing around

Lmao at your life

>>70687334
You should look at any Quin Benet video where he's fleshtubing. He is so gay. He is the black version of the SISTERS meme except he's white.

>>70682056
Wait, is this why EN is gonna do a PR stream??

>>70675744
Give it up, Millie

Could this be the thing False mentioned for march? Or is he talking about the stock stuff? Or does he have something else in store?

>>70684472
>Any bets on the leaker?
it could just be someone who's sick of waiting in the graduation queue and wants to take the fast track out.

>>70687696
What?

>>70688117
According to False, the Niji news he has:
>Can be covered in a single 3-minute segment
>Is something he's been sitting on for about a year.
>Could be easily considered a "nothingburger"
>Changed how he views Nijisanji as a company

>>70681923
no, I have plenty of both. But in the real world you don't get to be little miss special princess, just do your part like everyone else and shut up. that's life

>>70688396
...So in other words, it could totally be this. How terrifying. Maybe this is why it was on Sayu's mind for her to bring up.

Hear me out.
What if Sayu is the one who leaked it to False early last year? He might have had it for a while but because he's not familiar with the law involved and didn't feel confident covering it he wanted legal help.
For whatever reason False wasn't sure if he would get into trouble or didn't find a cheap enough lawyer so he waited until April before making content out of it, but now that this new legal guy is here he asked him about it and thought it would be fine leaving the contract up to him.
So now the dude can make a deep dive video/stream on the topic and False can get away with just covering it indirectly, saving him the hassle, and because they both profit from it, it's a win win situation for everyone.

>>70688589
>no, I have plenty of both
>just do your part like everyone else and shut up
Doubtful but in the unlikely case it's true, you have my condolences on working in a sweat shop where you hate everyone and everyone hates you.
I'm happy to have a normal job where people aren't massive cunts to each other even if they're not friends. You can stay miserable, I don't care

>>70689068
It's possible yeah. Sayu was definitely in a worse place mentally a year ago and I can see her providing ammo to the dramatubers since they were probably the only ones who were kind enough to reach out to her

>>70689068
False has been trying to deflate expectations for awhile, if he had a whole ass contract he wouldn't be doing that.

>>70689068
That's what I was thinking. It's been long enough and the timing matches up.

>>70680059
Go back to stream Enna, we have more memes to make.

>>70682056
Bomb has been planted.

>>70683081
It was pretty obvious you can't quit whenever you want without being fined by niggersanji.

>>70682056
>>70687696
Man, it would be awesome if lawyer timed his stream to clash with Niji's. Imagine being mogged by a stream shitting on your business practices.

>>70682936
It's the acumulated negative karma from many, many years and across many victims. Total Niji Death.

>>70682056
It's over sisters, we have the high ground.

>>70689816
It makes sense though to deflate expectations. People are angry and they want the one big thing to undo Nijisanji. They want a recording of Enna saying the n-word or see undeniable proof of Vox being a pedo or anything just as horrific. A perfectly legal contract that confirms what everybody already knows, namely that the livers don't get support or a decent from being part of Nijisanji is not that. It's not exciting.

>>70690509
>Total Niji Death
Anon, there are people who's oshi is in that company!

>I will SAVE Nijisanji, just hand over the latina

>>70690681
yeah, one of them almost died a couple months ago too

>>70690835
*sigh...*

>>70690835
>Scarle wants to fuck with Niji again
>Scarle promises him pussy if he leaks the documents
>LegalMindset.mp4
It was in front of us all along

>>70691069
I want to swoop in like Zorro and save Scarle from Nijisanji and kick Aster in the microballs on the way out so badly bros

>>70690681
Oshi's that are not backstabbing cunts will be loved as indies.

>>70691293
>He thinks Aster hasn't won her affection with his charm, persistence and good heart
Where is your sense of romance anon?

>>70691293
aster is mindbreaking her ugly bastard style as you and I type

>>70691723
>>70691560
*sigh*
Aster is me by the way.

>>70680059
Still upset that your birthday was mogged by a sheet of paper?

>>70690673
>A perfectly legal contract
that remains to be seen.

>>70691723
There's always Grimmi I guess. Improvise. Adapt. Overcome.

>>70682056
>Template
So I'd assume he didn't get this from one of the talents, as they wouldn't normally have access to a template, they get sent personalised documents. So where did he get this? Curious how he's going to prove it's legit but knowing this faggot I fully expect him to just gloss over that and never really address it.
>This a totally legit Nijisanji contract template
>Trust me bro!
>Thanks for the supas!

>>70683081
If the contract goes over the alleged rules that Selen broke there’s a possibility it could get pretty bad. It’s pretty obvious looking at the way Selen and Zaion were treated that Niji pulls rules out of its ass just to fire people and this contract could potentially confirm just that

>>70691836
Considering how he's talked about law in the past I wouldn't trust this guy's legal commentary for shit. I also don't expect the contract to really be all that bad given how they had plenty of people sign up for it, if it's just an obviously terrible contract I'd expect them to have run into trouble much sooner.

>>70692026
such a template can also be inferred by examining multiple contracts.

>>70692073
What is Nijisanji going to do exactly? Sue her? There's several employment laws protecting her as extablished by the other lawyer. It would be a losing battle for them. Why else do you think they stopped harassing her? Good will? Nah, they can't do shit against Doki anymore.

>>70691836
Maybe I'm giving Nijisanji too much credit, but surely multiple lawyers on the liver side of things looked over the contract over the years.

>>70692175
I am honestly just hoping he will make some points that will get viral with normies so Kurosanji gets blasted to death just a few weeks before the shareholders meeting.

>>70692177
At which point you'd still just be making shit up, a lawyer should know better as they'd basically be committing slander. This just looks like extremely obvious clickbait bullshit that will turn out to be nothing but it'll still be farmed for this retard's content.

>>70675681

>>70692279
>Maybe I'm giving Nijisanji too much credit
if there's anything to learn from the past month's events, it's that virtually everyone has been giving nijisanji too much credit for a very long time.

>>70692346
I just want her to end up being a good gal.

>>70676529
FUCK HER EMBER! FUCKER HER GOOD!

>>70692301
I can sort of just appreciate the idea of general negative press for AnyColor and their dogshit practices but he might well be weakening critics position by talking a whole load of bullshit.

>>70692346
jesus christ I wish I hadn't just jerked it

>>70692279
Considering how they seem to react every time an organ brings in a lawyer, I somehow doubt this contract has gotten much scrutiny.

Elira is the Fubuki of Nijisanji

>>70691773
That foot cam stream that you did with Finana was pretty hot

>>70692346
Fuck... I want her to give me a ruined orgasm so badly bros.

>>70692441
No, that was Pomu, and she left. Which means exactly what it would mean if Fubuki left Hololive.

>>70690835
The ONE time i'm not even gonna be mad if she metoos him

>>70692441
I remember when Fubuki made that black screen video calling all of HoloCN dogs and bug people

>>70692508
You don't understand what he's saying. Think about it for a moment. It will all "clique" into place.

>>70692224
What? Did you respond to the wrong person, anon-chama? I was saying that things could be bad for Nijisanji if the contract proves that they selectively apply the rules.

>>70682721
They'd have to fight through his army of Thai ladyboys he bought for 50 dollars and dime of coke.

There will be nothing of consequence in that contract.

Theoretically, if the Nijiorgans were all futanari women. Which one of them would have the biggest and the smallest pp?

>>70692660
I'm pretty sure she did the equivalent when she collabed with Coco and had all her BiliBili content wiped.

>>70692781
Top dog always has the top dong, pic related. Millie has a micro penis.

>>70686331
>Kyo's not a true believer like Millie or Enna
Shut the fuck up you piece of shit, he was the first bully we found out about during the Sayu termination arc, and he tried to fuck Doki again when he leaked info to 39Daph, who she is only friends with Kyo, and no one else.

>>70684472
Vivi. She owes the nijjers for crushing her dream of working with her oshis.

The only thing of real interest to me is any termination/end of contract/resignation clauses/penalties. Why is there a rumored graduation queue? From the sounds of it there are people trying to leave but have to wait until they can graduate - some of them might have expiring/expired contracts, what can Niji do about that they can put them in a queue.
I'm looking at Nina - when did she put in the request?

>>70692611
Scarle really seems like a sweetheart that really doesn't wanna cause a fuss or trouble even when she REALLY needs to.

>>70692864
>Millie has a micro penis.
I support this 150%. But she lies about her size all the time.

>>70675681
it's insane how much hotter she became now that we know she's legit evil

>>70692970
unfortunately, a lot of the really interesting bits are going to be in the (arbitrarily and unilaterally amended on a whim by anycolor) "activity rules".

>>70692939
To be fair to him, I have friends too who think they are defending me and butting their ass in things that don't matter them.
I usually tend to stop being friends with them.

>>70692954
Nah Kunai more likely then, she had a sizeable following on YT and Twitch just to get the similar numbers with Niji taking a cut and being airdropped into this shitshow with 0 promotion and yab after yab.

>>70693096
She was always very unremarkable. Selen always outshined her ever since she debuted even the Nijisisters had no idea what she was about on that stupid "say something good about the livers!" document they made some weeks ago.

>>70692669
Not him, but I don’t get it

>>70693195
Yeah, because Nijisisters don't watch girls. Come on, don't be silly.

>>70693133
She got information leaked to her directly by Kyo, otherwise how does she know there were "separate documents"? She was their first attempt at a "grass-roots" campaign to build a narrative against Doki using other creators and influencers.

>>70693284
Hololive Gamers are nepohires, but with actual management instead of semi-literate minimum wage slaves.

Let's get things out of the gutter, nothing written in this contract is gonna be "legally bad" either for Nijisanji or the other side.
Contracts can be customized to include any and all clauses. Unless it's a proper "contract for x" it's circumstancial evidence, even if yes, usually companies just use standardized ones.

>>70693195
yeah. selen had all the talent, connections, and drive. now elira has an actual characterization to her, and i can beat my dick to her knowing it's for a just cause.

>>70693337
>They unironically tried to use 39Daph to blast Doki
>The plan died even before they could implement it because 39IQ
kek

The whole branch needs to be burned and rebuilt from 0.

>>70693398
Good taste, anon. Maybe this was the push she needed to explode her career.

>>70676251
There's an Elira rape fic, at least: https://rentry.org/9oykvcf9

>>70693460
i know 39daph vagueposted on a twitch chat, but did she do anything else that fucked the plan up?

>>70693337
>Bitch literally started her stupid nonsense with "I didn't read much".
Still, unless Kyo has decided to die for a burning company, for some schizo reason, he's gonna get out of this mess acting like nothing happened to him.
He literally has to just shut up and get nepohired by Kuro who needs a flesh friend.

>>70693380
I doubt there's going to be anything illegal. But I wouldn't be surprised to see some very questionable clauses. Stuff that's legal but eg a 10 year no compete clause (the only example i can think of right now and it definitely won't be that see Nina)

>>70693558
She literally showed full 39IQ speech pattern of pure menhera, saying very nonsensical things that contradicted everything and starting by openly admitting she didn't read almost anything and was having an "hot take".

How someone like this has not won a Darwin award is one of the greatest mysteries of our era.

>>70693460
I just want to point out what a great friend he is, by not even bothering to come to her rescue as she was getting roasted alive by the entire internet. He seems to have this pattern of always using those close to him as a tool, or to leech off of, for clout.

>>70692970
My rrat >>70683376
Vox is correct, you can leave anytime if you pay liabilities. If you want to go out without paying you have to do it at a time that's of the company's choosing.

>>70693558
That was it, really. The issue is that everybody picked on it and started blasting her instead.

>>70692939
I love how you retards conveniently ignored when Kyo said he thought he was talking about the Genshin VA groomer because it doesn't fit the agenda

Forcing Millie to watch Elira getting raped!

>>70693558
She incriminated herself, and could actually be brought in for questioning in Canada if Doki wanted to sue.

>>70693770
Tighnari bros...

>>70693693
Such a contract wouldn't be enforceable, especially for foreign contractors which is what NijiEN consists of. The only way that could work is if they put in a deposit and no, that can't be the case.

>>70693770
The genshin groomer was a man, and that entire thread was talking about a woman.

>>70693770
Qrd? If there's misinformation about you're free to correct it, given you can trace your reference.

>>70675681
>I PUT ALL MY SAVINGS INTO NIJI STOCK
>IT'S ALL GONE NOW BECAUSE OF YOU
>PLAP PLAP PLAP
>PAY IT BACK! PAY IT BACK! PAY IT BACK! PAY IT BACK!

>>70682056
I'm hoping that he's doing this because he read it and there's yabs, rather than just baiting views over a nothingburger.

>>70693915
You're going to eat 4 hours of super chat reading straight whether there are yabs or not and you will like it.

>>70693693
I'll be honest I almost want it unironically to be this only because it will be interesting seeing the absolute way Vox, Elira and Ethyria have got assblasted.
But Vox seems 100% into being an asshole and I bet Elira is gonna make a "suprise" apparence at the mega collab, meaning that ultimately they went full retard corpo and now are burning with it.

If not, then she is basically in deep shit and maybe she can pull out of the cesspoll.

>>70693915
I hope the leaker appears at the end of the video WWE style.

>>70675681
The Cima Garahau of vtubing

>>70693671
>>70693695
her decision to vaguepost about it on twitch chat instead of actually making a statement on live stream or a tweet already shows she wasn't committed enough to the plan. unless that somehow was the plan, in which case that's fucking stupid. if even a close friend of the Clique isn't willing to come forward openly, then NijiEN doesn't have a lot to go with.

>>70694064
>I hope the leaker appears at the end of the video WWE style.
>Pomu's theme flares up and the chat goes wild
Dimes.

>>70694073
Cultured post.

>>70694097
Testing the waters with her own demographic, before seeing if she could leverage it successfully in a more outward show.

>>70684472
>Should do this a week from now to maximize the damage on 3/14
What happens on 3/14?

>>70694097
Actually, imagine if that was Kyo's plan
>I'm leaving this burning ship
>These fuckers want me to screw Selen or they are gonna invent clauses on my ass
>I promise I will send the doc to my west opinion friend who has influence
>I actually also sent her a note saying "make it so only an inbreed japanese highschooler can find it credible"
>I walk scott free and join Kuro in building an actual carreer.

>>70694097
You have to understand they have quite comprehensively painted themselves into a corner, and the black box reception was their wake up call. Their plan was, and probably still is, to slowly gaslight people into forgetting how bad it was.

>>70693870
Counterpoint - they gave a contract to Sayu and told her she has 3 hours to sign it. I don't think it's beneath them to put something unenforceable and hope that the dumbass streamer they hired won't doublecheck with a lawyer. Would explain why they freak out every time someone lawyers up.

>>70694097
Well, the plan in itself was fucking retarded. You can't use influencers to try and, ironically, influence the overly popular narrative, especially when you're trying to defend a big company, since the public will just assume they sold out and will scream harder. I'm sure Daph realized this and was still deciding whether or not to commit fully, but then her shit got leaked.

>>70693915
Doubt there's major yabs in a template document, even if there were it can be brushed off as merely being an unspecific template.
>We don't know when this template was used or if it's even still up-to-date
>We don't know where this template comes from, as it can't have come from talents who'd get a personalised document instead
>It can't be too bad as they've had dozens of people sign these contracts and people who have left and hired lawyers would have plenty of opportunity to bring it up if there were very controversial bits in it (Sayu would have shared that months ago)
All in all this just looks like really low effort bait over nothing. Don't know why people even expect there to be a yab here other than the fact that Niji certainly has been fucking retarded so far.

>>70694171
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrBEcKOswCk
BAH GOD, IT'S THE FAIRY WITH THE STEEL CHAIR

>>70694295
We are not getting to 3/14. Riku has given all the red flag he's about to dump and pump and leave the business to someone else.
It's completely legal and he gets away with all of the money and none of the bad rep into the new fad.
If he stays, the investors will expect him to spend money to fix stuff. He did this before, so it's a foregone conclusion. Niji will be the problem of the next buyer.

>>70675681
>makes retarded catalog shitpost, thereby wasting space that could have been used for threads not made by pagpag eaters

>>70694331
Possible, but that's also a pretty big risk. Giving someone 3 hours to sign an obstructive contract is pretty bad policy but it's not something that can easily be proven or turn out to much beyond 'wow those guys are dicks'. Effectively blackmailing people with a contract is potentially criminal, leaves solid evidence and is all around just impossibly bad, if they were THAT incompetent it would have come up sooner for sure.

>>70694503
Yet you still replied. Curious.

>>70694430
Will Cover absorb Niji WCW style?

>>70694503
>A random Miko-anti shows up to drag her image through the mud
K.

>>70694503
Cool seal 300 posts into a discussion

>>70694586
Nah, not cover, that would be absurd....
....but not impossible....
....nah, that is not gonna happen. Someone else will get it or worse case scenario it gets liquidated.

Imagine 171+ livers waking up and " Surprise, you are indie now! "

>>70675904
I thought everyone loved evil anime women.

>>70694727
She refuses to embrace the gimmick.

>>70694700
It's not unprecedented. Quite sad that happened to PRISM.

>>70686733
I'm not a pedo, I just get off to women who are.

>>70694809
Based.

>>70694756
>Niji goes down and everyone becomes Indie.
>She gets into a stream.
>Looks at the camera, brings up an image of Ethyria.
>" So, you think I'm evil? Let US tell you all I did for these bitches. "
> Discord calls notPomu and notSelen.

>>70694700
SMEJ just divested itself of one vtuber venture. They have room in their portfolio and they are a stakeholder already.

>>70694586
as incredible as that would be, it just wouldn't be feasible considering the staggering amount of Livers Niji has on staff. they'd have to graduate entire swathes of them if they intend to pay them the same as their hololive/holostars. and that just wouldn't be a great look for a company that's maintained relatively clean reputation.

>>70693846
>designed by Pako
Why is he so cursed?

>>70682056
This guys a total faggot but I cannot wait for this stream if it's the actual contracts.

>>70680059
>grow the fuck up
Any workplace that endorses bullying isn't a workplace, it's a highshool. So who do you think needs to grow the fuck up?

>>70694795
PRISM was clean and good compared by this. The company will literally be passed around until someone gets majority shares. Or the shares gets absolutely sold to delisting and the company goes basically bankrupt, but that's pretty hard since it's still does money in Japan.

Then again Riku is a moron and could decide to play rollercoaster with his shares trying to make it to 3/15. Very doubtful, you will see the price probably skyrocket up and all of a sudden go down in flames.

NijiJP is still operating as normal. They should just dump the EN branch and stop all this nonsense. It's so easy, really.

>>70694700
From looking at their financial stuff it looks like that was more or less the plan though.
>No growth in 2023
>Riku prepares to jump ship
>No investment or promotion in newer gens
>Massive buildup of liquidity
>Try to do some stock market stunts to boost stock prices with a stock buyback
>Sell high and jump ship at the shareholder meeting
>Value goes back to normal and the people left are holding the bag on a largely stagnant growth with faltering management and few future prospects
>Riku starts his 4th company to do this shit with
It's going poorly because his stock play backfired but I still expect him to fuck off at the meeting and take whatever is left in the kitty.

>>70680059
That workplace doesn't deserve to fucking exist for what it did to her, sayu, nina, and mysta. And that's just the ones we know about.

>>70695029
This could end in a total asset liquidation if it keeps deteriorating on the JP side.

>>70694554
>Effectively blackmailing people with a contract is potentially criminal
It's called a Liquidated Damages Clause and it's completely legal, although hard to enforce and a lot of courts will throw out such a document. But again, it's not illegal.

>>70682056
Probably from Sayu. Don't think this has to do with Doki.

Here are my thoughts on the leaker. The most immediate candidate is Sayu for obvious reasons. But because it is a contract template, it means that template applied to the whole gen (Xsoleil), and anyone in there could have shared the contract. Also considering how incompetent and lazy Niji is, they must have refused that contract for the gens adjacent to Xsoleil, meaning Iluna and Krisis. In those two gens, Kyo and Aruvn are the most likely culprits. I'm going to stop here because I'm not doing Niji's detective work for them

Imagine if the leaker is someone still within the company and people find out who they are.

>>70695130
>Riku starts his 4th company to do this shit with
he's had a history of this? what were his previous companies?

>>70695249
Watch it be Kotoka

>>70695130
I don't think the plan was to jump ship at 3/15, but definitely it was starting to take place. Yesterday he had someone saving his butt, if the price went under 3000 he would have started losing milions.
He put his shares in the speculative loan market specifically so he can dump them into buying something else. He has massive liquidity so he just need to sell them and all of a sudden he's not the CEO anymore and not legally responsible of this fucking mess.
>>70695155
JP is still valuable enough and free of stains. Whoever gets it can restructure without going bankrupt because they will be in a grace period and the investors will see restructuring positively.
If Riku tries to fix EN, it will be like admitting he fucked up all along. He is in a no-win scenario and his best option is to run with the money.

>>70687214
>auto-correct lmao
a phonefag of course

>>70695165
Liquidated damages require there to be actual liquidated damages (terminating a contract by itself wouldn't be enough) this could be something like 'I will repair your sink before the 24th of January' and defaulting on that contract will cause damages because the other party cannot use their sink as it isn't repaired, often this means the other party can simply hire another contractor and bill the party that defaulted on the contract here.

Discontinuing a work contract by itself doesn't normally incur damages except where certain events (convention appearances, outstanding merch sales that require liver signatures etc.) have to be cancelled, at which point the damages would mostly involve just paying back cancelation fees and such and not just a strict penalty.

Again, blackmailing with such threats can actually get you in hot water.

>>70695364
It was part of her masterplan to be folded into NijiJP

>>70695462
>JP is still valuable enough and free of stains
Valuable yes, free of stains? No

>>70695249
Refused -> reused

>>70695710
Relatively. The shit in there is not literally nuking the entire branch and market. I have heard several JP jab but they don't even compare to the literal inability of EN to be profitable.
Offkai is too much of a dangerous precendent. It showed any Niji activity in EN is liable of cancellation. Investors have zero trust in Anycolor, will play the pump and dump themselves if Riku doesn't do it.

>>70695342
It's from an interview he gave that I can't be bothered to dig up. He claimed he had two previous startups that failed.

>>70695630
Elira has an appearance on the 4th of April and you can argue that they have X hours of streaming per month planned which is generating revenue. I don't expect it to be enforceable, I just expect it to be there. Probably to scare anyone who doesn't check with a lawyer.
>Again, blackmailing with such threats can actually get you in hot water.
Memes aside, Nijisanji did tar and feather a girl twice after her suicide attempt. I do genuinely expect these things to be a combination of stupid and evil. Considering "black company" is so common in Japan as to have a term for it, they probably never expected to get in too much hot water. I know that normally it sounds far fetching, but the past two months have been...I guess you've seen them.

>>70695916
The main question is going to be if the profitability of the company is worth the effort of managing it. It also doesn't help that many of their top performers are jumping ship and the JP market is looking to decline.

>>70696056
>you can argue that they have X hours of streaming per month planned which is generating revenue.
Unlikely, as we already know they aren't salaried employees. I imagine the biggest threat they have is costs involved in the model and such, they could claim that defaulting the contract means they lose money on the model as they are not exactly transferrable, but that's something I doubt a court would back them on.
>I don't expect it to be enforceable, I just expect it to be there.
It's possible, I just don't think it's there as this would have scared off anyone who isn't especially dense, and it would come up much more from their auditions and such. Many of the people who audition for Nijisanji have some experience in the industry and some are genuine veterans, I can't imagine this wouldn't have come up if it were true.
>Memes aside, Nijisanji did tar and feather a girl twice after her suicide attempt.
Oh yeah they are certainly not going to be morally opposed to doing such dark shit, it's just that most black companies don't even bother with that garbage as it's too easy to come back to bite you in the ass and isn't particularly effective either. Much simpler to just slap on 'no compete' clauses and NDAs to silence ex employees than to threaten them with flimsy nonsense that would get your ass completely exposed in the first lawsuit your company finds itself in.

>>70695249
someone asked very early in the chat whether this was related to her, and he said no, that would be for a future stream.

>>70696630
I guess we'll see in a few hours, but it's hard for me to believe that none of the three knew how this was going to go down. There must be something in those contracts to twist people's arms.

>>70696630
>defaulting the contract means they lose money on the model as they are not exactly transferrable
it's unreasonable to expect those costs not to be amortized over a fairly short period of time, like 6-12 months if you're being very generous.

>>70697608
As with all things that happened last month, it can be explained with malice. The black stream can't be explained away with the vague excuse of Niji threatening them, they said too much that didn't need to be said, that shit was personal.