/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Yes
Why do you need to ask?

>>70668784
Mori is the one of the few that collabs a lot, she's the one that makes the most amount of songs, concerts appearances and etc . As much as she's boring she proves the point that the others in EN are just lazy(besides Kiara and the new gen)

>>70668784
She has to sexually train new employees

>>70668957
No wonder Vesper and Magni left. Sora raped them.

Don't care, I'm just here to comment on Soda.

Her reasoning explains why her streams are very relaxing, it's contagious (๑ᆺ)

>>70669095
wtf I can't make the nun nun face 0/10

>>70668951
Mori, Kiara and Bae all deserve respect for putting the others to shame. Fuwamoco are still too new to add to the list but it's unlikely they'll slow down now they're in Japan.

>>70668784
double face cunt, i know what she do to other member

>>70669349
...hot

>>70669349
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InRExY61UXA&t=105s

>>70669265
You do realize they do what they do because they are numberfags right?, they KNOW that they can't do the Gura and that's exactly WHY they struggle, if they could you better bet your ass they would do it, Kiara being probably an exception because her narcissism depends of her chat.

Mori in particular though?, she could have been there but she sabotaged herself spectacularly for years, must really sting.

>>70669142
(๑ 'ᆺ' )

>>70668784
That's basically what Mori said too, she does a fuckton of projects but streaming is relaxing to her so its not "more work" in her head.

Holos feel wildly different about their streaming job. I remember when Kronii explained that she played minecraft off-stream because having to entertain chat was killing her fun with the game lol.

>>70669537
I do realize that you are coping hard as fuck

>>70669537
They don't give off the vibe they don't want to be there and are forcing themselves to stream. I mostly avoid Mori these days but I occasionally watch Kiara and Bae and they seem happy and sweet most of the time. You don't get this sense of pressure from either of them, although Bae sometimes has a melty.

>>70669265
notice how most of these lives outside of NA

JP chat is generally quite dumb, but polite. EN chat are, well, you guys, redditors and discord fags.

>>70668784
I'm guessing Soda has other company duties alongside singing/making music.

>>70670027
Yeah, me.

>>70669491

>>70669983
I can honestly understand Gura prefering to stream for KFP over the majority of chumbuds

>>70670027
>other company duties

>>70670118
KFP can be intense, overly zealous motherfuckers but they would literally eat Kiara's shit and die for her, and you know Kiara is into that, so it ends up actually working well as a relationship since both are insane in correlating ways.

>>70669849
It seems like whatever recording work they have to do behind the scenes is super stressful or annoying. I've seen enough of them have melties over it, even the "hard-workers".
The lazy ones will simply not stream for a week instead.

>>70669632
Thank you anon (๑ 'ᆺ' )

>>70668784
Sora streams because she enjoys it. EN streams for the money.

>>70669683
Kronii is a whore how did she made it in before pomu

>>70670162

>>70670162
Me, all of them

>>70671091
Pomu only applied for Myth, not Council

>>70671181

Nothing against daisenpai or any of the jps, but tell me the next time they have to work with management half a world away and in a second language that you most likely only know meme words and phrases in. And when they can't just take a train to get to the studio and half to fly 20 hours to get to a country they likely can't understand the language of.

>>70668784
>Has the slowest subscriber growth in Hololive JP
yeah I do believe streaming is her part time job by now

>>70669537
I hate chumbuds so fucking much. Imagine twisting people working hard and enjoying their job into a bad thing. Truly pathetic.

>>70671860
four years in a jp company and still no speaking nihongo?

>>70671969
>totally a organic chumbud post
Kys

>>70672072
Chumbuds always act like that and say shit like that. Stop trying to gaslight people into thinking all of the evil despicable posts made by chumbuds are all just false flag shitposting. It is just their true nature.

>>70672329
Fuck off retard

>>70669537
>they are numberfags
I wish every fucking chuuba were a numberfag, maybe they would actually entertaining or atleast streaming.
You think Fubuki isn't a numberfag? Or Marine? Are you dumb? Every normal streamer loves attention, every normal streamer is a numberfag to a degree, if you aren't numberfagging you don't care about your audience. When you see number goes up it means you are doing something right, If it goes down from the usual amount consistently, then that means you are doing something wrong and losing your audience.

>>70668784
You want EN to stream in JP timeslots?

>>70672358
Not really helping chimbuds case by being cruel, vulgar, and rude here....

>>70670162
>>70671181
>>70671635
All me

>>70672607
Sick of you fags. Kys.

>relaxing by having the eyes of hundreds of strangers on you
Extroverts are terrifying

I don't think they're lying.
The difference is simply what you pointed out: some people view vtubing as an escape and a privilege, especially if you're under Hololive.
Others view it as a job. Could be a job they really like, but a job still drains you.

>>70673132
Confucius say "Find a job you really enjoy doing and you'll never work another day in your life."

>>70673235
They don’t enjoy doing it numnuts

>>70671182
Including Sora, I was Sora too.

>>70673235
You also have to remember we're men. They're all literally menhera women to some degree or other.
Aki and Azki are probably the least crazy, but everyone else? All those childless hags? It'd be a miracle if they were only a little menhera.

>>70669849
This is the one of the main reasons of why I don't like the lazy ones, it isn't that I'm entitled and want 24 hours of stream daily, but they barely do it and when they do they feel forced, it's best to just don't watch it altogether if the person making the content hates it.

>>70669537
every streamer should be a numberfag

>>70669683
wow, she hates chat that much huh

>>70673553
she is old enough to be her mom
it would be too weird, 10 years is max age difference

>>70669683
It depends on the person and game you are streaming. I can see streams be stressful for some if they try to keep up the energy compared to someone who streams with a "chill" atmosphere. Also a difference between an organized stream where you collab or run some kind of event/program vs reacting to shit, or answering questions ala marshmallows.

Why are numbermonkeys consistently the most retarded and most self-absorbed people /here/?

>>70670087
I always loved Soras Minecraft interactions
I miss the Minecraft days.
FUCKING MOJANG MAKE AN UPDATE THAT MAKES PEOPLE WANT TO STICK WITH IT, CUNTS
MERGE DUNGEONS WITH MINECRAFT PROPER.
ADD THEM IN THE NETHER ROOF
BHAM

>>70673472

>>70673235
Even if you love something, doing it for 8 hours almost everyday is tiring, but vtubers are far from that besides the few ones that goes out of their way to do those things by themselves. No matter how much work behind the scenes they do I doubt they do the same as a normal 9-5.
Shion, Gura, Ayame, Choco and some others proves that you can get pass by doing the bare minimum, at least in hololive

>>70673688
Wagahai likes mommy archetypes.

>>70668784
Japs just have to take a taxi from their homes to the studio, ENs have to take planes and plan for their stay there. It’s literally that simple.
>but Gura!
Some JPs stream as much as her already so technically they are worse since they don’t have as much sponsored shit to plan

>>70668784
>Are they perpetually looking for excuses?
congrats on redpilling yourself

>>70674333
Lui-nee...

>>70674487
remember, the soda is just ~24 years old. just imagine her powers when she becomes a hag

>>70674705
damn it I'm already into hag connect do t convert me

>a screenshot of an old clip
>sea prime time
>holo vs holo

>>70670227
>A German into scat

Every time.

>>70668784
Tbf not just EN but a lot of other chuuba would look lazy if you compare them to Sora and you can look at her twitter to see her activities outside of stream which is way a lot more than most of other Holomem and streaming is also something that she really like because it's a way to casually interact with her fans, she often stream after she got home to relax while talking with her fans about her day

>>70668784
You also have to understand that Sora knows what it's like to have to scrape for the Holo success. This shit doesn't exist without her being a literal who at one point. Other Holos just walk into instant success. JPs, and both cakes and hags in particular to at least seem to take it more seriously and actually put effort in.

>>70668784
>Holo daisenpai vs Holo
Now this is a new low for the NDF

Niji sis actually think Sora would approve of this thread, kek

>>70674705
I don't know which one is the real rrat, some say sora was only 17 when she started hololive and others say she is a hag.
I don't know which one to believe because it changes a lot my way of thinking about ther

>>70668784
>the other stuff

>>70678147
There's some decent shit to support her being a hag if you dig into that shit, though Soratomo like to fight against that pretty hard for certain reasons rumao. Either way I want to fuck her senseless so it's all the same to me.

>>70676586
Sora definitely doesn't support your tribalfaggotry

>>70678147
Well, I get her age from her own twitter account. https://twitter.com/tokino_sora/status/1525516372629135361

>>70679174
Yeah and Suisei is still eighteen.

>>70669491
ESL

>>70679256
https://youtu.be/7ppXhme8IBw

>>70678966
>Either way I want to fuck her senseless so it's all the same to me.

It's this simple really

>>70679677
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKz_lYw1NTg

>>70679808
Who would you trust? The soda or a proven liar?

>>70679965
Neither when it's all part of the character larp honestly. Her actual age is irrelevant though for the exact reason I stated earlier
>>70678966
>Either way I want to fuck her senseless so it's all the same to me.

>>70680008
You bring up a good point. However!

>>70668784
Sora is so fucking hot

>>70676489
>hags in particular to at least seem to take it more seriously
Some real generational differences, seriously
My parents worked their asses off but they considered that to be normal like breathing
Looking at Gen Z today (9 hours a day is overwork!!) I only have more respect for older people above 40

>>70682839
This has nothing to do with Sora's example and not only that, it's a naive and outright insulting way of thinking, working 9 hours a day some generations ago was infinitely more rewarding and worth it than it is now.

>>70682923
You're right, it was unrelated, sorry about that
But you're coping if you believe the meme "work is for suckers"

>>70682985
You are missing the point anon

>>70674339
god I wish Gura did the bare minimum...

>>70683092
I was just ranting, don't mind me

>>70669003
>I did not DESERVE that
Was he calling daisenpai ugly? WTF

>>70668784
Yes theyre lying. HoloEN are busy fucking me. Theyre sex addicts

>>70671920
I like the part-time job - mindset most talents have. It's not like your merch and ticket sales depend on it...

>>70668784
I think it's because most streamers never had real jobs before. The ones that do long streams many times a week often started streaming after their job to unwind

>>70673472
>Aki and Azki are probably the least crazy
>Aki
https://youtu.be/P9FZ3uI2Dr4?t=316
not sure where this goes on the menhera scale but still

EN fans are some of the worst breeds ever. At least JP bros are funny

>>70668784
Millenial western women grew up as a pampered protected class
They do not understand the meaning of work and dedication

>>70674040
>MERGE DUNGEONS WITH MINECRAFT PROPER.
>ADD THEM IN THE NETHER ROOF
Fucking yuck
Your kind is exactly why the game turned to shit
Everything since survival update has been a mistake

>>70678147
She was really young back then, she just has the personality type that makes you go voyaging across uncharted ocean

>>70685666
Okay casual.
I played since before the game had a name and I still like it.
The world gen now is like all the best bits of 1.7.3 betas combined with modern biome blending.
Besides if your whiny ass dislikes MUH HUNGER you can literally just disable that shit with a command block.

>>70686528
>I played since before the game had a name and I still like it.
So you havent managed to develop taste after 14 years congrats
>The world gen now is like all the best bits of 1.7.3 betas
Nobody is forcing you to type lies you know
>Besides if your whiny ass dislikes MUH HUNGER you can literally just disable that shit with a command block.
Completely missing the point
Jeb and all Jeb supporters need to be fucking flogged
Theres a reason markus jumped ship after this autist kept turning his cozy retro game into 2013 survival slop

You have lazy people on both sides of the pond and in every company. It's down to the individual's work ethic and also this >>70673132 is a good point.

>>70674489
Gura does not plan anything for the sponsored stuff. Cover does 99% of the work and then asks her to record few voice lines

>>70668784
Japanese culture values hard work and always being busy, whereas (modern) western culture is about being as lazy as possible.

>>70673576
you really want to see this hobby burn, don't you

>>70668784
>Are ENs just lying when they say they can't stream because they're busy with Hololive shit?
It's probably subjective truth. They may do 1-3h Hololive-related work behind the screens, feel tired afterwards and call it a day. If I remember correctly, Gura said something about having a "small battery", which is probably true for most of them. From an average person's perspective, most of EN girls are incredibly privileged and lazy. Props to Mori for actually acknowledging that they're lucky, having plans for the future and actually working toward her goals.
Having said all that, let's not forget that there's a bunch of JPs, who only do the bare minimum, and still have no qualms collecting ojisan bucks whenever they feel like it. I'd say that the greatest strength of Hololive is also its greatest weakness; talents get a lot of money from merch, so farming SCs/memberships is just a nice bonus, which is exactly the opposite for Niji organs.

>>70668784
daisenpai tsuyoi

>>70671091
Pomu was probably accepted to Nijisanji before Council auditions were finished. I don't remember the timeline. Or she was rejected by Omegay.

I think it can be true that all of the Holomems are extremely privileged AND that their work is exhausting.

I also imagine that outside of the company elements like stalkers and the such compensate for the lack of stress in actual working hours.

At the same time, almost all of EN are in the 0.1%+ of the income bracket and they should’ve known what they signed up for when they applied for the job.

I don’t have a ton of sympathy for them, but one of my New Year’s resolutions was to be kinder and more forgiving of others, so I could work on that

matsuri already talked about this, they're lying to (you)

Speaking of streaming to relax, which holo is the most likely to have diddled themselves while streaming

>>70668784
>Are ENs just lying
yes, next question.

>>70668784
>Are ENs just lying when they say they can't stream because they're busy with Hololive shit?
Even fleshstreamers hate streaming

>>70670227
you say that but I think most vtuber fans are deranged and would huff their oshi's farts, which is why any criticism is treated as schizo

>>70686946
Motherfucker the game was based on DF adventure mode, get the fuck out of here.

>>70688516
The bunch weirdly enough is just gen 2 minus subaru.
Ayame appear and disapear whenever and unlike chumbuds they dont cry in her fans dont cry in the comment section anymore.

Shion has taken a break from the internet and we dont have a coming back date.

Choco also disapear whenever she want but can do pretty long stream when she want to
And Aqua appear like thrice per month atleast she's consistent.

>>70672329
True chumbuds would quote Gura. During her YouTube game stream, she emphasized the importance of not getting overly focused on numbers. She cautioned viewers against letting these numbers dictate their enjoyment and prevent them from pursuing their true passions.

In contrast, Sora seems to prioritize creating a relaxed and enjoyable atmosphere in her streams, suggesting that she doesn't fixate on numerical goals. This approach positions her streams as a source of leisure rather than a purely professional undertaking.

-Gemini

>>70668784
Literally the minimum amount that would keep most people satisfied is an hour or two a week. You'd have to be a CEO of a fortune 500 company not to be able to take two hours out of your week.

Barring some medical emergencies and some psychological breaks (like so bad they have to be hospitalized or something), it's mostly down to laziness. Playing video games for a living is not hard and I am tired of people pretending that it's like manual labor at a construction site.

>>70669683
Sounds about right for Kronii

>>70668784
duh retard

Sora loves me

>>70668784
nice

>>70668784
Sora is the best

>>70668895
Why not?

>>70668895
He dunb

>>70668784
you realize that that's not necessarily a lie, right? streams might not be how they relax.

>>70668784
Consider Tenma of phase connect.

No, you're just not aware of circumstances.