/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>70484615
people don't like giving jews money (especially in 2024), sorry you're just figuring this out.

>>70484615
>Gura killer

Self sabotage.

>>70484615
I wonder how long she'll keep streaming with zero income before she graduates

Thats what happens when you pull a Kana.
What is even sadder is that she probably thinks the piggies will come back if she moves onto her PL.

>>70484615
thanks for reminding me I need to chargeback my older donos.

>>70485747
she arguably did way worse than kana lmfao

>>70484615
who's the one cuck?

>>70485749
based

>>70484615
kek, it's empty now

>>70484615
Maybe going "total unicorn and coomer death" wasn't the best idea.
Probably should have been more gentle.

>>70484615
surprised that the entire fanabse of hers actually held together and agreed to not donate almost a single dollar in more than 2 weeks now, fucking mental and respectable

Does Aviel pay a salary to talents?

>>70485747
Kana continued to have piggies on her two comebacks and new kana model and then continues on in her new life as a coffee salesperson.

>>70485908
Yuko was bad but people have forgotten how fucked Kana was

>>70486266
easy to forget when she doesn't stream

>>70484615
How much was she earning before?

Women sowing: YES FUCK YES GET FUCKED LOSERS
Women reaping: wait, this sucks, what the fuck

>>70486393
Shes ghosting again as the dragon?
Damn moron never learns.

>>70484615
>cuck debuff
>jew debuff
it is a mystery...

>>70484615
she committed career suicide, plain and simple

I honestly think there must be people working behind the scenes grooming these dumb girls into screwing over their own careers for laughs.

>>70484615
KINO

>>70486485
she is depression and tummy hort incarnate
she simply can't win

>>70486534
There were, we even know who they are.

>>70484615
I can't wait for the cope about how she totally still has hundreds of subs.

>>70486248
A Jew? Giving someone else money?

>>70484615
>How can this happen?
She and the person who made her make that choice could not distinguish between fiction and reality.

>>70486534
In Yuko's case there actually were, but they never tried to hide behind the scenes. When Yuko reactivated her roommate account in late December or early January, one of the earliest things she did was refollow at least two of her old groomers. One of them flat out changed his twitter name to "xXxoshislayerxXx" and basically made it his life mission to try and piss off as many boobros as he could, until some anon posted an unflattering picture of him near what his presumably his residence. He eventually privated his account and changed his username after that.
It still makes you wonder what the groomers are thinking in these scenarios though. Do they hope that the fans still donate their oshi so that she'll have money to fund future visits to them, or do they hope that it happens so she'll eventually be more reliant on her groomers instead? With people like people like Yuko and Finana from NijiEN, I'm assuming its the latter.

>>70486949
yeah its called a loan

>>70489103
they let him live? crazy. he was threatening to hurt their oshi and presumably had the means to.

>>70484615
Missed out, what happened here exactly?

>>70484615
>letting a jew take your tip
no thanks

>>70489995
She was hardcore into GFE, telling fans she was in love with them, doing sexual ASMR, asking them to cum for her, and then she went on a two month break and came back saying fuck you all no more GFE and deleted all her old content.

>>70484615
I only membered her for two months, but I still regret giving money to this whore.

>>70484615
she was already yab laden and on shaky ground to begin with, it's truly puzzling. the problem is, you cannot go the mellow seiso route after you are already known for being a complete horndog degenerate. everyone already knows the 'old' you, all your old fans were cultivated on the 'old' approach and such. it's just immediately hyper fake seeming even if it's actually closer to her real inclinations.

it's like if Seinfeld suddenly became a nature documentary show or something. People would be like "jerry will make it funny somehow.. right.. right.." and no, it's unironically a complete shift away from the comedy. everyone would say he simply nuked his career over the switch, and that's precisely what's happening here. in this analogy I might also point out however, that if -after- Seinfeld the show ended and Jerry wanted to make a -new- show, maybe he'd have a more receptive audience. in other words if yuko graduated then maybe her next incarnation could have been some mega-seiso le heckin' wholesome streamer and people might have thought "meh she's just really into the kayfabe here" instead of going "literally what the fuck are you doing."

>>70484615
Jew don't need a worker who failed to bring money. She'll perish soon, unless she also fuck her manager

>>70486534
So Riro was a victim

>>70486534
that's precisely what happened. she sided with her groomers vs her fans and this is the result. those groomers better be paying her a couple thousand a month each or something otherwise it makes 0 sense.

>>70490489
Very clever...creating an audience based on one thing, that also happens to be parasocial, and then telling them to fuck off whilst also deleting everything...
Why don't they support her anymore?

>>70490489
>deleted all her old content
Thats fucking dumb lmao

>>70491665
a lot of it was members content too

>>70489436
>hurt their oshi
Yeah, he's "hurting" her alright

>>70490489
Vallure beckons...

>>70489436
Nobody in her fanbase is that crazy to willingly give up their own freedom over some groomed e-thot that pissed into a cup on stream. Him being publicly humiliated is more than enough, and those fans have probably moved onto other idol girls or girls from other vtubing agencies, if not moved on from vtubing altogether.
Meanwhile, Yuko is currently in a position where she essentially distanced herself from idolEN Gen 2 and her other friends just for her groomers.

>>70492050
>fans have probably moved onto other idol girls or girls from other vtubing agencies, if not moved on from vtubing altogether.
I can only imagine the dark secrets from the other corpos, we don't know because most of them have capable tardwranglers and let shit leak often.
But I can imagine cliques in every single corpo just not so easy to spot because the corpo can force organs to collab even if they despise each other.

>>70484615
Peak woman moment. Graduation soon.

I don't really care for her but not surprising. I get the same vibes as I go from Riro with her except she's more entertaining. Honestly thought she was going to graduate after the Riro thing.

>>70484615
I just don't understand it. It just doesn't make sense. Someone will have to explain it to me. I thought incel peniless Unicorns were supposed to be the vocal minority? I thought Alphachad Twitter virtue signalers were the ones consuming content and supporting their oshis? You mean to tell me that, even though Twitter users will say "yazz Queen!" And "slaaaay!" And "you don't need those parasocial fucks in your community anyway", they won't pay up when the time comes to show actual support? They'll help a talent to absolutely sabotage their living and then walk away with a clear conscience? Well at least they're watching clips, right?...Wait even the clippers left? Oh fuck...then she might as well not even exist anymore.

>>70484615
>turns against her own fans
>they stop giving her money
SHOCKED_PIKACHU_FACE.EXE

>>70492535
I recall there were a lot of comments stating that they would finally watch yuko because the GFE stuff was gone. Lol.

>>70493117
Yeah, keyword is watch, not donate. Kek.

>>70492050
>and those fans have probably moved onto other idol girls or girls from other vtubing agencies
The more "dedicated" bunch moved on to grooming some no view indie

She's an absolute retard. She could have kept some paypigs if she had been smart about killing her coomer content. But instead she
>Announced she's not doing her dono goals, low-key scamming people
>Nuked all her members coomer content, as in, delete content the viewers that actually PAY for shit
>Confirmed that all her GFE content up to that point was in fact a grift.
Man, not even Michael was that stupid.

HEY YUKO SHILLS WHERE ARE YOU? Come on and tell me again how getting rid of her unicorns was a good thing. Tell me how she didn't need those parasocial fucks. COME OUT AND PLAY.

>>70486534
It depends on the girl. In Yuko's case yes, and in Finana's too. I don't think that was the case for Kana or some other high profile self destructs.

She could have laid on the bed she made and continue her usual content.
She could have graduated and gone back to her PL.
She could have graduated and debuted as a new character with clear boundaries and without GFE from the start.
Hell, she could have made a gradual transition out of GFE and leave her old videos alone as a courtesy.

Instead she chose the worst of all worlds and I'm utterly shocked at this decision. And apparently management backed her up on this?

Yuko was never entertaining and now that she doesn’t even blatantly pander to lolicons and coomers there’s 0 reason to watch her

>>70494063
Yuko was a great streamer, she was funny, affectionate, and has great energy. Her design is excellent: cute and immediately recognizable.
Thats what makes things more upsetting. Giving it all up, for what?

she is probably under contract to finish her donothon goals before graduating

>>70494239
better set her dono goal for like $100 because even that'll be a stretch at this rate.

>>70494239
How is she gonna do the spicy ASMR when she said she won't do that type of content again?

>>70492050
CASUALS

>make fanbase off of unstable and easily exploitable paypiggies who will rather kill themselves than see you stop doing GFE
>stop doing GFE
>suddenly the unstable fanbase stops giving you money because you stopped giving the only thing they cared about
shocker.

I only watch Poko at this point but I'm assuming this all came from the Riro termination. Do any of the others still do GFE stuff?

>>70494399
Easy: reacting to tastes of different kids of spices, while using an ASMR mic

>>70494754
kinds*

She's a fucking retard and clearly letting her groomer guy control what she can and can't do
Also no one cares about camping vlog shit

>>70486411
she was once called the gura killer

>>70494063
And this is what it devolves to, insult to injury. She's not failing because she stopped giving people what they wanted, no, it's because she always sucked and was complete trash and not worth it at all. This is what people that hate "parasocial fucks" usually flip over to once the talent loses everything. Picking at the carcass like a pack of vultures.

>>70494399
That's the thing, she's not going to do the spicy ASMR. It's apparently being reworked into something completely different than advertised.

>>70493117
they're too busy now finding someone else to tell to change their content

>>70486534
I think it's more likely that women are dumb and completely ruled by emotion

>>70493117
phasecucks
Unfortunately Yuko mingled with Pippa early on and it was her downfall

Anyone "normal" wouldn't watch a vtuber with a history like hers. They might virtue signal about le unicorns or gfefags but in the end she's still too radioactive for normies to watch and she did it to herself. Could have just been a normal vtuber who doesn't hardcore gfe bait, masturbate and piss on stream etc from the beginning and avoid all of it.

>>70493117
If we assume that she had an average CPM of $10 per 1,000 views, her RPM would be $5.5 per 1,000 views (CPM is what advertisers pay YT, RPM is what YT pays the YouTuber after its 45% cut). Each extra view is only worth $0.0055. I've only seen 10+ comments with those feelings. That's $0.055 on average per stream if those people actually follow through. I really hope she wasn't relying on her donations to support her lifestyle.
>Trade $10 donations for 10 views
99.45% decrease in income (She needs about 1,818 extra vod views to make up that lost $10)
>Trade $100 donations for 10 views
99.95% decrease in income (She needs about 18,182 extra vod views to make up that lost $100)
I don't know how many paypigs she had, but donations/memberships make up most of a small streamer's income. It's going to hurt. Oh yeah, paypigs are usually members too. Looking at her membership tiers, I wonder which tiers they were paying for.

>>70493301
I miss Rindo.

>>70490489
What a fucking retard lmao

>>70493152
they don't watch either. their support only goes as far as making a few tweets saying good job on owning those chuds

>>70484615
anything bad that happens can be summarized as a woman moment

>>70498962
the girl that stopped streaming after their discord groomers told her it's too dangerous for her? no thanks

>>70486193
it helps that a number of prominent whales and fan artists got banned from her YT channel or blocked by her Twitter and PL Twitter to seal in the deal that she didn't want them

Why arent all the retards hyping her up and “supporting” her against the oh so terrible unicorns not pick up the slack and fund her newfound passion for the outdoors?

>>70499482
only those creepy unicorn losers do that. I'm sure one of her groomers will do it in exchange for certain services though

>>70494605
Momo is dead, Riro is dead, Katta is on break.

>>70484615
She always came across as a grifter.

>>70493906
But who has the worst case of self sabotage?

>>70494063
She had sort of a tactical FPS niche from her PL she carried over with that was actually fun to watch, but she lost me when she confirmed it was just a grift for views recently.

>>70493999
>She could have graduated and gone back to her PL.
This is the most retarded part, just graduate and be reborn as something else would annoy some people but not completely obliterate your own fanbase.

>>70494366
>better set her dono goal for like $100 because even that'll be a stretch at this rate.
Nothing stop her of self donating those $100 and be done with this.

>>70500911
IIRC she mentioned having zero interest in going back to the main niche of her PL, so why even bother? It'd be like if dokibird came back and just decided to never play apex or overwatch ever again.

>>70499156
This, the people who were cheering her on were all Twitter creatures who don't watch stream and hang around the space purely to "own the incels." They don't support any of these streamers.

>>70501260
Then I have no idea what's she trying to do.

>>70498311
God I hope it's something stupid like "ASMR with various peppers and hot sauces", the shitstorm would be absolutely glorious

>>70501462
I bet she doesn't even know either

>>70499336
Are you fucking serious? How retarded is this bitch?

Has there ever been a bigger waste of opportunities in vtubing history?
>blue cunny mega buff
>in a up-and-coming company, hailed as the new golden standard of vtubing where they basically pay for everything
>amazing model and rigging, even got a theme song
>debuted when chumbuds were desperate for content
She had everything to be the face of IdolEN

>>70486534
yeah, me

>>70491878
sheesh, that's grim

>>70498500
holy cope, batman!

I feel like "GFE camping and fishing with ur vtuber gf" would be kinda kino, that's kinda some untapped potential. unfortunate

>>70502879
A Yuru Camp vtuber would be peak comfy

>>70502879
it's interesting that she went in the camping vlog direction when she's done a media watch along stream that amounted to binge watching most of Kazari's camping videos (Kazari is a milota [military otaku] idol)

>>70503358
er, miliota

>>70484615
This is what happens when you listen to your groomers. Its like fucking breathing air for these bitches the need to self sabotage. They can't fucking help themselves. Hope those groomers are giving her all the money she lost by listening to them at least. Fucking doubt it though.

Does anyone know of someone else who does similar lewd ASMR content ?, the Imouto and Succubus streams Yuko made me cum really fucking hard

>>70499201
Isnt she underaged? im pretty sure streaming right now is too dangerous for her, especially since her opsec was shit.

>>70503648
she's like 16

>>70503625
Vallure debuts are in three months time. They are going to be all about that and there'll be two lolis.

>>70485152
>the curse
grim

>>70493340
>Nuked all her members coomer content
Actually, she had around 45 members-only streams. Exactly 5 of those were "coomer" content, as in ASMR that gets kinda lewd for a few minutes.
She deleted like 33 members-only streams in general, anything that was GFE or even felt intimate at all. Even a Senko-san watchalong wasn't spared.

>>70484615
Kek. I knew that not watching these cute and funny girls out of pure antisemitism would pay off.

>>70494239
Speaking about that, one of her donothon goals was public ASMR ear-licking.
She deleted it too.

>>70503916
holy shit lol

>>70498311
That would be such a horrific idea that I'm genuinely curious to see how it pans out. That would be as career destroying as Finana's "succubus ASMR" april fools gag

>>70489103
It's to make the girls more dependent on them.

>>70493727
ethically speaking it is good but more often than not that means not good economically speaking

>>70503648
I dont think shes not in danger anymore; its just behind closed doors now as in unironically groomed

>>70493340
>Announced she's not doing her dono goals, low-key scamming people
did she really?

>>70503625
If you have a high ESL tolerance, you should check out Remilia from Phase Connect

>>70484615
Never trust a practically underage chuuba with gfe.

>>70503488
That's another thing, what exactly is it about her groomers that makes Yuko trust their word? It'd be one thing if she got groomed by a massive eceleb, but literally not a single one has a successful career as an "internet personality". Even pre0\-idolEN it seemed more like they were leeching off her.
This chick just made some incredibly poor life choices.

>>70504480
ESL ASMR is even better, any recommended streams?

You reap what you sow Yuko lol

>>70486485
Yes, she is already back to her PL
Id grudgepost them by saying I told you so, but Ive already done that 3 times now with her

>>70484615
https://gofile.io/d/KEHQaV
https://gofile.io/d/GXSSSL
https://gofile.io/d/JWw1ec
https://gofile.io/d/o6dtgO

>>70503488
One day, she'll come to understand the truth. That her groomers WANT her to be poor and unsuccessful so they can swoop in and act as her "savior."
It's pretty funny, cause it's an INCREDIBLY common thing with smaller or up-and-coming chuubas.

>>70505668
All of these are trash, even the one where she supposedly masturbates
Is this really it? This is what the idol shills have been pushing for a year? There has to be more on the whale tiers

>>70484615
>build up a gfe audience
>pivot
>ban anyone who complains
>delete all of the old content while she's at it
I mean...

>>70504068
>as career destroying as Finana's "succubus ASMR" april fools gag
QRD?

>>70484615
Does this website reset weekly on Sunday or Monday?

>>70504215
She hasn't outright said she's not doing them, but she's just never going to mention them again, last weekend she announced she would address the donation goals on a members stream, she did the stream, and then cried and gaslit the remaining fans saying they backed her into a corner and made it so she couldn't do any non-coomer content without talking about the goals at all.

>>70484615
>I don't need PARASOCIAL FUCKS my fans that just find my content entertaining will support me

>>70506013
It cycles every day, it's just he most recent 7 days.

>>70484615
>How can this happen?
that depends i guess
what exactly do you mean with "this"?

she still has this art up on her twitter kek https://x.com/yureiyuko/status/1674128632367939586?s=46&t=FF7jaDFS78mSe4wFbjrK4g

At this point you just have to go fight fire with fire. Shinji, get into Discord, and do the same thing they done with her but in reverse.
I honestly don't understand the appeal but I wish you luck.

>>70505979
>known for her coomer/intimate ASMRs, anons still refer to them to this day
>dropped them for a while because allegedly her discord groomer group thought she "pandered to males way too much"
>for april fools she schedules a surprise succubus ASMR stream
>again, people were looking forward to it for a while
>keeps prechat open all day, donos and gifted members roll in
>scheduled time comes, nothing
>minutes later nothing
>maybe she overslept haha
>hours go by, nothing
>the "prank" was literally no stream
>twitter banner also changes to a pov of her flipping (you) off
>was hanging out at some other organ's chat gloating about her "prank"
>some 6 hours later it starts, she runs some text-to-speech translated shitpost and shill an announcement for some project she's been working on
>that's it
>also fucked off for some time after that

>>70506076
No, she did talk about them. Specifically stating that she was gonna hunker down and focus on getting the children's book done. And then said the ASMR wasn't going to be what was originally planned, since the original plan wouldn't mesh with the change in direction her content was taking.

>>70505979
I was going to comment, but >>70506520 already beat me too it. I think she even grossed like 1k just for that stream too just in the prechats, which is why it was even stupider what she did.
If anything the parallels that can be drawn between Yuko and Finana are quite surprising. They aren't the same but they both made similar mistakes on a level that really hurt them.

>>70505979

>>70506469
Nah, they can have her. They have been at it for long enough, certainly more time I'd be willing to spend. Someone that acts like this is just not worth the energy.

>>70506641
Also her prestream "audience" was her highest ever too, going by what I've read the day it happened

>>70505854
I agree with you but you will always find anons like >>70503625 to each their own I guess

>>70490489
Don't understand how she didn't see this coming.

>>70506520
>>the "prank" was literally no stream
Wow, fuck that bitch lmao. That part alone is fucked.

>>70506834
She wanted to graduate, actually. But management convinced her to stay. Probably due to the fact she still owes people the donothon rewards.
Shes certainly not gonna be around after that.

>>70491030
The new (already canned) He-Man show is a pretty good analogy to Yuko here.

>>70486485
>isreal
They should have given the cunny dragon to Clara

>>70506947
I don't really follow her too much, but wasn't one of her dono awards a pretty lewd kinda ASMR or something? Don't see her fulfilling that one now lol.

>>70506834
She expected her whales to unconditionally follow her to her PL
And the sad part is that they will once she restarts her GFE. Its not a matter of if but when

>>70506747
It's not anything amazing compared to JP stuff from dlsite, but for an EN Vtuber it's pretty rare to get that kind of ASMR, especially from a loli content creator

>>70507093
I dont think her whales will. Yeah there's always no shortage of desperate lonely people on the internet, but because she's still following her groomers, that part isn't going to convince them to stick around. And there's also the fact that her turn around was likely written up with the support of IdolEN management, imagine how much more self-destructive she'd be if they weren't around to tardwrangle her at the bare minimum.

>>70484615
>Thanks for the condom funds, Akotsu, now my bf can pound me even more

https://youtu.be/6uHaRZFCfRo?si=xhjKF8lnG9j-1Y0q

I don’t know if the clipper thought this was funny, is a psychic or a bit of both because this clip is kinda funny now. It was literally her own suggestion to do “super spicy asmr” and its biting her in the ass.

>>70506520
For what fucking purpose?

I still cant help but wonder what happened during her break that made her decide to self destruct

>>70507487
starts with b and ends in d

>>70502489
Yes. Nijisanji had Pomu.

>>70507465
to be brave and make a stand

>>70507465
PARASOCIAL FUCKS!!!
Actually there should be a Yuko version of this now

>>70506291
That's probably one of, if not only, remaining pieces of 'lewd yuko' that she didn't try to scrub off the internet. Probably because it was drawn by her mama and also a donothon reward.
She's a retard. The only reason she's still Yuko is because idol begged her to stay. She was their most popular streamer by a country mile, at least last spring and summer before she started taking all those vacations to attend meetups with her gun nut groomers. There was a bit of a schism between her and the /k/ommandos for the first 6 or so months she spent as Yuko - they were apparently unhappy she suddenly stopped her PL activities to redebut as a loli gfe streamer giving her members the affection she used to give to THEM - but last fall they reconciled and she obviously started listening to their advice.

>>70507465
She legit drove out parts of her audience out of incompetence and spite. I've never seen a streamer handling their audience like that, fuck up after fuck up and actually never noticing or registering she's the one that's been causing them.

>>70507518
Based?

>>70507518
Bagpiped?

>>70499336
yup, that made casual fans like me who don’t mind throwing donos around realise she is serious, she went beyond what would be expected if it was a corpo mandate so il respect her decision by not giving her a penny not a view anymore

>>70507518
Bodied?

>>70507518
Bogged?

>>70507306
>the clipper
kek that's her official clip account run by either her or someone at management

>>70507487
More than likely got some man meat that is strapped to some good end-game life goals

>>70507518
bpd?

>>70490489
I've been following her since the beginning but never really watched any of her streams. If I knew she did that I would have watched her more because now I feel like I missed out.

>>70507487
The only explanation is that she's getting plapped daily by someone. It's the only reason she'd go SO HARD on the complete opposite direction.

>>70506082
It's funny, I've come to see the 'parasocial fucks' as the immune system of a vtuber. If youtube is fucking you over, you're having a bad day, whatever, they'll still support you. You stay afloat to fight another day.
But then maybe you listen to the people who tell you to strip it away! Don't you hate dealing with asthma, eczema, allergies? And the specter of autoimmune diseases always looms over you.

Of course, they're technically right - if you never catch a disease you don't need an immune system. But the same shit always happens.
Suddenly after all the parasocial fucks are gone, there are suddenly so, so many reasons not to watch you. Game is boring. Streamer is not entertaining. Wrong hours. Overlap with more interesting members. Too many collabs. Streams not long enough. Streams not short enough. Series too long. Need to work but will watch clips. All these little reasons you used to laugh at suddenly become solid viewership-ending reasons.

>>70486534
No, they just want to make the most money with the least amount of effort. And when attempting to do so, they tend to shoot themselves on their feet. Multiple times. With a shotgun.

>>70500824
Rushia? She had the most to lose, but she still does fine, I think, not without begging though.
Wonton yab was pretty funny, but wontons doing great know afaik.
So, in terms of losing everything, probably Riro and Yuko, because Rushia and wontons PLs are doing fairly well.
There is also Aia and Finana from niji, but I don't know about them much, I think Aia screwed herself early on and Finana's educate yourself parasocial fuck, while selling wedding rings.

I think before she runs back to GFE, she would probably try spamming shorts again. They helped her grow a lot the first two or three months after debut. In fact, I remember her saying that she stopped doing them because she felt like she had grown enough and wanted to keep the 'amazing' community she had. Well, now that she's told much of that community to fuck off, now she needs to grow a new community to replace it. So expect her to spam shorts in a few weeks, if she doesn't just graduate.

>>70506076
What about refunding people for the last moment goal switch?

>>70508254
Oh, and as for Riro, she certainly sabotaged her career in idol (obviously) but she never told her fans to fuck off. All her old paypigs are in her PL discord paying for her patreon and instagram subscriptions, with their hands on their credit cards waiting for her redebut. To outsiders, her having fucked a manager and almost fucked one of her paypigs sounds like a massive yab that would turn all her other big donators against her - but Riro's situation is unique, and if anything, her biggest supporters are ready to support her even harder as an indie. I don't think Riro really had any unicorns - just coomers who are ready to start cooming to her again.

>>70508419
>What about refunding people
They could, but they probably won't.

>>70506600
>And then said the ASMR wasn't going to be what was originally planned
So a bait and switch. She defrauded people for donations.

>>70508419
>refunding people
LOL

>>70507465
To "own the chuds and incels" and impress her friends on Twitter and Discord.

I guarantee she will blame them for "sabotaging" her when her money runs out.

>>70508551
>almost
But she did. And thats the one that was found out, who knows how many there are

>>70506520
The image in the archive is quite sad, I'll see if I can get it.

>>70508551
idol's hit piece really did a number on her public perception huh.
>>70508628
have you seen literally any proof of that?

>>70508658
I remember anon's liveposting screenshots of people coping her chat. Shit was depressing

She could've just done a subtle months-long shift from GFE to whatever she wants to be now without nuking her previous GFE stuff and maintained her income. Just saying.

>>70507518
Basedfriend?

>>70508254
I don't think it's fair to put wonton in the same category as Yuko and Finana, her yab was a slip of the tongue and not a deliberate attack on her fans
If you're a hardcore unicorn you can think that it was dishonest for her to hide that she had a boyfriend, but you can't say that accidentally revealing it was done out of malice

>>70506600
>>70508587
Gross, she should just suck it up and do what people paid for, she keeps going on about how proud she was of it and how much she loved it, just whore herself out one more time and maybe get some points back. But women will be women I guess.

>>70484615
>Pander hardcore to coomers
>Later tell them to fuck off
>No more paypigs
Coomers pay, it’s just a fact. Cultivating a coomer fanbase and then telling them to fuck off is always going to result in this.

>>70508943
You mean unicorns pay

>>70484615
Not sure how this actually works because I sent a donation to beat the $1 one to make sure it wasn't top 3 or something like that but it hasn't showed up yet in 2 days

>>70508877
definitely. would've gone a lot better. if she had framed it as like "my family found out, i can't do that stuff anymore but i still love you guys, so if you'll still support me i'd really appreciate it", i bet most of her paypigs would have stuck around. the fact that she went absolutely scorched-earth on the matter says to me that someone gave her an ultimatum to get it done immediately. well, either that or she's literally retarded

You guys ever consider the angle that Idol as a whole is trying to rebrand it's image, and gave Yuko some kind of ultimatum?

She isn't the only one who has massively cut down on coomer content, and if anything Yuko making it her entire identity probably forced her into drastic changes.

>>70508922
Nah wonton girl is a piece of shit. She was tweeting about how lonely and single she was on twitter constantly. Absolute manipulation

>>70509049
No, that's a retarded rrat and only tourists believe it

>>70509049
I don't know what they did with Rin, but i want to breed that little brit even harder now

>>70509049
Wasn't Idol bought by Brave? That's kinda grim

>>70509023
Do your PL reps
She couldnt have done that considering what happenedthere. Maybe a couple of clueless whales would believe her

>>70509049
its not an unbelievable rrat after the Riro scandal but I think she would have said that, as Yuko or her RM

i cant even laugh at boobros, my boyfriend haver ntr gfe oshi could do this anytime.

>>70490489
Didn’t she also not deliver on sunbathing goals?

>>68779772
It wasn't a one time thing.

>>70509049
the coomer faction lost when Riro and Tomer got fired.

>>70484615
Why are people so attached to this bi5ch. Shes alright to be honest. There's way way way better cunny tubers. She did some shot so what. Then again Ive been watching since debut. Bat never doneted or membered and I just don't get it

>>70508988
That too, but you can’t deny the coomers pay out. A certain fantia account is doing well and she would have very minimal unicorns anymore.

>>70509049
Even if it was true, no sane company would do it like that, that's the job of the tardwrangler of not letting them kill their career with stupid shit like that.

>>70507518
bored?

>>70508988
Rushia's remaining fans pay even though they are evidently not unicorns.

>>70509283
If the rrat that jew man is in the process of selling the company over to brave is true, I can see it happening. JP corpos are notorious for having some pretty irrational policies put in place, and at this point it'd be out of Aviels hands.

>>70508254
Aia, funnily enough has made 28k more in superchats than Finana has despite being in NijiEN for less time and having less subscribers than her. Yeah, she fucked up hard during her debut, Aia herself has since admitted that on multiple occasions since. But she has a connection with her small fanbase some would say parasocial where the two are happy with each other.

Getting off topic, it grinds my gears that vtubers like Finana, and even some vtubing fans do not seem to understand the topic of parasocialism. Cambridge's dictionary defines the word as:
>involving or relating to a connection between a person and someone they do not know personally, for example a famous person or a character in a book
Which is pretty vague, yeah, but some people always seem to assume it devolves into some Perfect Blue shit. But again resources like Wikipedia link to a bunch of other articles noting how these relationships can help form a sense of community, how these relationships can in some cases be vital to a Youtuber's success, how Twitch streamers are in some cases like the geisha of the digital age, ect. Yeah you can spin negative aspects of them, but there's plenty of positive aspects of parasocialism too. ZEA Cornelia of Nijisanji ID did a whole presentation on this subject too, just a shame that the stream along with all her other streams were taken down. It really was a good resource.

>>70509535
>parasocial for a chuuba who got gangbanged
ngmi

>>70509431
Brave ain’t going to tell coomerbait whores to stop the coomer bait if it makes them money.

>>70509535
>Aia herself has since admitted that on multiple occasions since
Got vids or timestamps? I dropped her because of her debut but I wouldn't mid trying her out again

>>70503916
And all of the members posts, which were she venting, or saying how happy she was being parasocial, or asking for love letters, or thanking the love letters, etc, etc, etc.

I never got the coomer side of this, there is insane amount of coomer content everywhere else, I don't see why it has to be with vtubers.

>>70508682
Hate playing devils advocate to the merchants guild here, but she literally did a members stream right before getting fired that pretty much validated most of the list, from meeting up with fan to taking drugs on stream. It's stupid how they ousted her like that but it's not like any of it was actually not true.

>>70508551
Riro is still around? What is she under now?

Idol had real lightning in a bottle with her, just a shame they never put a cap on the bottle.

>>70504031
archive? I only checked her members content, missed this one

>>70509826
>I don't see why it has to be with vtubers.
I'm assuming because it feels a lot more personal compared to some random porn vid.

>>70509899

>>70509938
>>70509899
are you going to spam this in every thread about yuko retard?

>>70484615
Small price for the peace of mind. She doesn't need your money, but thanks for the concern.

>>70489103
>until some anon posted an unflattering picture of him near what his presumably his residence.
Nice.

>>70509690
Sorry anon, I don't have any timestamps or vids on me now. I basically unsubbed to her due to the NijiEN debacle, but just searching "Aia debut" in the archives should bring up a ton of posts talking about how much she regretted debuting in the manner she did.

>>70509853
Are you trolling? Her PL was literally shown on her debut there is a 0% chance there are people that dont know

>>70509938

>>70509956
Yes. Because this kind of thing won't be the last in the VTuber world. At least, from my view.

>>70509688
You severly underestimate how badly JP corpos tend to treat their foreign branches behind the scenes. Even Hololive has had it's EN members complain about shit they've had to endure from management.

It is not out of the realm of possibility that Brave would force an immediate fullstop to Yuko's content or her graduation. They've done it before with their main branch chuubas.

>>70509049
She said on the return member stream that it was her idea, she brought it up to management, and they allowed it.
This rrat is doa.

>>70509999

>>70510030

>>70509853
Riro was basically like a Phase Invader, she had a new account but still streamed with connection to her main youtuber persona. You can literally find her in riro's debut trailer.

>>70510053

>>70509049
Meanwhile Poko started doing blowjob ASMR.
Yeah nice rrat. Shame it's retarded.

>>70510086
nobody is gonna read this shit, kill yourself

>>70507535
That was entirely Niji's fault to treat her like shit , not the same thing. Yuko sabotaged herself.

>no you don't get it she HAS to drink her piss or it's a betrayal
You guys are insane, go outside and touch some grass please.

>>70508316
afaik shorts buff has been patched

>>70489103
It's panic. They get scared that their grooming target finds better, richer people.

>>70509049
no because her PL was outspokenly anti-GFE to the point that she took part in a podcast about parasocialism. as Yuko she said "fell in love with her community" and "naturally" started to lean in that direction, people thought she changed until she lifted the mask and said it made her unhappy.

>>70509049
Do your PL reps she debunks this

>>70510224
you're brain damaged, unironically. you can not actually take part in a discussion because of how tiny your brain is

>>70484615
Why would I support another man's woman financially?

>>70509994
>>70510079
Didn't see her debut, was never a dedicated fan, just was impressed with the veracity of her spirit in the few things I have watched.

But I suppose I can try to find an archive of her debut and hunt from there...

>>70509597
>parasocial for a chuuba who got gangbanged
who

>>70508551
It's still funny to me how Riro is one of the few yabs where you can put 90% of the fault on the talent with substantial evidence against her (the members stream), and idol STILL managed to handle that so poorly that the company reputation is completely in the shitter. Not even cyberlive fucked up this bad, and that mess is still a board meme to date.

>>70510148
I did and I regret it

What is the correct way for someone to stop doing GFE content if they're no longer comfortable with it?
I can understand why Yuko would want to stop doing it after getting a taste of reality and seeing what actual GFE schizos look like when she went on that brief hiatus.
I'm not saying she is entitled to getting gfe money after stopping gfe, but some people in this thread are attacking her character and I'd like to understand what they feel she should have done differently. Do you just graduate if you want to stop gfe?

>>70510481
Yuko you fucking retard
What thread do you think you are in

>>70510394
ky0resu. not breaking any rules jannies, she mentioned it herself.

>>70510582
Aia literally talked about having a train ran on her

>>70510130
Wait seriously?

I've yet to see how her self sabotage will help the company in the future, what's the point of a clean image if you lost your entire fanbase, even a 2view indie would be a better option.

>>70510582
>What thread do you think you are in
In one that is talking about yuko, finana, kana, miguel gato, wonton, aia. And the post I replied to is replying to one that mentions zea cornelia

I'm confused. It sounds like a chuuba who wanted to get rid of her current audience and content, and who did. Has she actually complained about the situation?

>>70510564
>What is the correct way for someone to stop doing GFE content if they're no longer comfortable with it?
Graduate.

>>70510646
>Aia literally talked about having a train ran on her
Is EN selling literals whores? I mean it seems like EN catters to cucks when JP does it for the unicorns.

>>70510564
yeah honestly the correct way to stop is to graduate. GFE has the most loyal, and yet most insane viewers. you need a new model to distinguish your new content or you've basically dumped them, and when does a breakup ever go well?

>>70510686
No
Not yet anyway

>>70485152
>Return to seiso
Return the cunny
>Return to seiso
Or suffer my curse...

>>70510564
honestly if you think about it, isn't breaking up also part of the GFE?

>>70510564
I'm not one of yuko's fans but if my oshi did what yuko did I would rather she have just graduated

>>70510639
Thank you, although I figured it out from a tweet she made regarding the allegations on said account. Thankfully the Youtube matched, though it doesn't look like she's done much of anything new on the account yet.

>>70510646
what stream anon?

>>70510564
People were waiting for a graduation announcement during said stream, after it was done everyone wished it was a graduation announcement.

>>70510793
Anyone who still follows this girl is either a coombrained moron or a giant cuckhold

>>70510793
she's planning a redebut soon. i'd warn you against getting tangled up in that web, but you can take care of yourself i imagine.

>>70510662
Doesn't she still pull ~400ccv? She just lost the paypigs. She's a bit unique in that she had a mix of insane GFE fans and relative normies who just like cute girls.

>>70510827
Having sex with a prostitute doesnt make you a cuckold
You pay for her services and you get them

>>70510827
I just like her singing...

>>70510874
there was a pretty stark split between member content and public content. i imagine she's bleeding members like a stuck pig right now.

>>70510564
The simplest way is to just do less of it over time and they wander off on their own to other vtubers; it works for stuff other than gfe, too. But abruptly stopping and then shitting on them never works for any type of content.

>>70510876
you ain't the one fucking her pal

>>70510564
Just slowly shift to non-gfe? It's not that fucking hard. Retards that experienced their gfe content earlier on and became gachi as fuck would still stick around because they already deluded themselves that whatever their oshi is doing is gfe. Doing it slowly would also make them not feel the gradual shift in content so even if after ten months pass and things are drastically different, gachis who regularly watch wouldn't feel a thing. There's also a fuck ton of sunk-cost at that point for them to drop their oshi even if they did realize that the direction of their content did change.
t.had an ex-oshi that did something similar to me

>>70510564
People have said it ad nauseam:
Graduate and you can come back later and just do other stuff altogether. Then among other things, if people beg you to do GFE "like you did before" they are just dragging in PL shit and that's a very rude thing, not just to you but to new viewers. Your audience becomes your shield instead of your opponent. That's one of the benefits of the custom and it is retarded that people want to get rid of it.

>>70510927
pay enough and you could be lmfao

>>70510743
Oh. Whole thread is acting like she was crying and screaming about wanting her piggies/money back. Dumb anons.

>>70510972
she basically was on her last member stream. broke down crying.

>>70510639
I'm so confused why people act like this is doxposting
https://twitter.com/idol_corp/status/1625618395767906326

>>70511001
yeah i know. just making sure no ban happy jannies tag me in their sweep. maybe they should though, could use a holiday.

>>70510564
None. You make the GFE bed, you gotta lay on it.
Although, if the problem lies with the type of GFE content produced, or the issues that they type of fans GFE attracts, there could be better methods to address those specific concerns.

Support good idols instead.

>>70510996
given the amount of truth stretching I've seen about Yuko over the past several weeks I honestly just don't believe you

>>70508922
I didn't put them in the same category, she is just the one I thought who lost it all after yabening.
I disagree with you, you act lonely to your fanbase while having a bf, if that's not malice then it's just straight up greed. She probably does the same thing in Phase now.

>>70510941
If you're going to be competing with other paypigs for some girl's holes, why not just hire a real prostitute and have her dress up as some anime bitch?

>>70510827
Yeah the quite literally met up with one of her groomers IRL, along with a heavily implied romantic relationship with her manager.
I legitimately can't see a reason to watch her as a gosling, even as a regular fan.

>>70511051
Chuubas like Poko are safer and more wholesome because they're not as blatantly manipulative with GFE
If you like GFE, you can pretend she is your girlfriend. If you don't, you can just enjoy the cute and comfy content.

>>70511062
it's been uploaded here 2-3 times on gofile. go search warosu if you care, starts at 30 min mark. honestly i don't mind if you don't believe me i really have no dog in this fight. i dropped yuko when i smelled something off. the vindication is lovely.

>>70510812
If I had to guess, rice purity test.

>>70511095
people deluding themselves into thinking their relationship is more romantic than transactional has been a thing since always, and it happens with prostitutes too

>>70511144
rice should be a mandatory debut activity

>>70484960
She is not a jew. She is a psychopath who mistreated multiple pets including starving to death. She also tried coomerbait but worst of all she doesn't finishes games.

>>70510837
>>70510827
Not a unicorn. Tend to treat my chuubas like porn stars and comedians. I may get upset enough to post somewhere once or twice if some great injustice falls upon them or if they get themselves killed, but that's about the extent of it.

Would be a shame if the little slut got herself killed, just absolutely incredible energy there, but yes, dangerously self destructive as the more genuine entertainers often are.

>>70511198
>she doesn't finishes games.
this applies to a lot of chuubas, especially in that corp

>>70511194
Nah, then they would lie about it, you should wait until their guard is down.

>>70511095
>>70511159
Personally I like the idea of fucking someone who I can then look up on youtube and watch videos of them being normal and interacting with fans
It's a little bit like how I'd rather pay to fuck one of my attractive friends than pay less to a prostitute. Hopefully that makes sense.

>>70499336
This was probably the single most egregious thing she did above all else. To pre-emptively decapitate your fans without even giving them a chance to even see if they like your new content is actually fucking sickening.

>>70510827
Generally speaking I don't watch girls who are whores however recently I've taken a liking to whores when I know they're whores. She's like a mistress to me. Also she sings good.

>>70510874
she went from 150-200usd a stream to 0-10usd.

>>70510874
She wiped roughly 70% of her member content. The people supporting her were doing so because she catered to what they wanted. Now she isn't. She'll have to build a new paying audience from the ground up. CCV won't pay the bills.

>>70511312
>>70499336
To be fair, her transitioning away from GFE was probably very specifically about culling schizo degenerates like IGOTKEKEDBYYUKOYUREI and the like from her fanbase.

>>70511001
>>70510639
It's insane how different that situation is when compared to gura/irys/mumei.
Christ, hololive really is on a different level isn't it
it's funny how over time people lose more and more cope about why gura is so much more popular than everyone else, "but muh gura had popular PL" doesn't have as much impact when shit like this happens and she still wasn't popular at all

>>70511408
Yeah, to defend her pedophile friend, boyfriend and the other people that fucked her

Holy fuck she was lying again. She pretty much only just started working on her children’s book donothon goals after saying she was soo busy in the fall working on her remaining goals. How the the fuck hasn’t she started?? I’m actually laughing so hard at the scumminess of this bitch lmao. It’s comical at this point

>>70511463
mhm, sure

>>70511408
seems retarded to cull a large part of your fanbase because of a couple schizos

>>70511484
personally I was laughing at her announcement stream. she's such an awful liar

>>70511489
This will be the 3rd time this thread that you are told to do your reps
If you still refuse to do so you are truly lost

>>70511430
Gura doesn't shit where she occasionally eats.

>>70510564
She could just not said a thing, not deleted anything, and just stopped doing it. The real fans probably would have stuck around and maybe find new ways to attach themselves. As it is she just told everyone to fuck off, and well, apparently they did.

Though as others have said, probably better to graduate and redebut with a new model.

Deleting content (let alone paid content) is just a terrible way to reinvent yourself in general. Tends to leave you developmentally stunted, never really coming to terms and integrating whatever gestalt lead to the behavior you're now ashamed of.

Also wouldn't trust a chuuba that does that. It's why I won't follow Mika Melatika in whatever new life she has. Can't believe she axed years worth of work like that, and there's nothing stopping her from doing it again. Not because she was ashamed of it or anything, but - actually I've no idea why, maybe she thought her archives would be competition for her new self or something.

>>70509084
QRD?
Who the fuck is wonton?

>>70511100
i am still waiting to hear her side of things. the way idol wrote that termination notice seemed overly personal and bitter.

>>70511535
I think she probably had a realization that she was no longer comfortable producing content that enabled that kind of schizophrenia.
These fans probably just seem funny and quirky to you at first until they have their first couple of melties and it dawns on you just how exploitative hard GFE content can be.

>>70511596
Shiina from phase connect. Would lie daily how she was so lonely and how she will be single forever while doing GFE
Meanwhile she had a boyfriend all that time. Still has and she still lies to the cucks in phase connect while doing GFE

>>70511580
I don't know who you think I am, schizo, but it isn't my third time doing anything. Second, I'm also schizo and I've been following this "yab" from the very beginning in intricate detail. I am aware of everything.
You are pulling shit out of your fucking ass.

I'm sure many people here are clueless about what her member content was like while also being too lazy to download vods. Those of you that fit this description likely see the coomers as weird random guys that are getting irrationally upset over someone that never focused on them to begin with. You are incorrect. Her member content HEAVILY pandered to GFE and coomer audiences. It wasn't just one or two things that schizos blew out of proportion. picrel

>>70511238
The last part is not true. Kat cares about stories in games. It's the "EN" branch who uses any game as a zatsudan.

didn't the whole breakdown in her content happen close to a fan meet and greet? maybe she just met who was cooming to her and was repulsed.

>>70511696
If she was worried about melties and people being explosive she seemed to have handled that in the worst possible way

>>70511749
>clueless retard that never heard of yuko before this tries to enforce and rewrite what happened
Good luck with that lmao

>>70511753
that first post jesus fucking christ lol

>>70511753
yeah, people are largely ignorant but it's not their fault, yuko is a bit of a literally who in the grand scheme of things and her public content wasn't overly GFE. her members content, marrows and twitter were EXTREME social manipulation, but casual fans or passers by would never see that and just assume schizos are exploding over nothing.

>>70511696
To be fair, I think even without GFE, following and liking people who are absolute cunts and hang around alleged pedos would get most fans concerned if they knew

>>70511711
I've never been into GFE, though I suppose I've indulged in some sultry ASMR, but it's just an actress doing a bit. I dunno how people get attached that way. How do they not feel "cucked" knowing that there's hundreds of other men in the virtual room masturbating along with you at the performance? How do those same people watch porn without feeling "cucked"?

>>70511753
I think you can simultaneously see her fans as being losers while also acknowledging how deeply manipulative this kind of content is.
I think it's understandable that she might have had a change of heart while still trying not to throw away a character she's attached to and build up a following.
I think she deserves to have her revenue drop to nothing for awhile but I can respect her trying to do the right thing and committing to cleaning up her act. I don't agree with other anons that the only option is for her to graduate.

>>70510086
wait, there has to be more, post the rest

>>70510564
I think there's 2 options:

A. Do an actual break up with your fans. Treat their feelings with respect and explain your reasoning very carefully. It will hurt them, but over time they will come to understand and they will appreciate the tact you used.

B. Just slowly drift away over time.

>>70511899
use your brain and you might figure it out

>>70511899
>>70511869
like i said here, if you don't know how people got attatched, you just haven't looked close enough. she was a master of making lonely guys fall for her as >>70511753
shows pretty well.

>>70511899
gfe is fundamentally contradictory and there's a lot of kayfabe involved
I have trouble grasping it as well but it makes more sense when you understand it's a delusion that people willingly use when they are unable or unwilling to find a girlfriend in real life. The better the vtuber is at gfe, the stronger the delusion.

>>70511899
Because I don't imagine other men when there's an anime girl on my computer screen telling me how much she wants my cum? Are you gay? How do you jerk off to regular porn knowing you are watching another man fuck a woman? How do you jerk off to a doujin without thinking about the fact a male drew it all?

>>70511822
>clueless
dyrbi
its probably the pedo himself running damage control
we already know her groomer circle are all here

>>70511891
She liked one (1) post from another content creator.

>>70511904
I support her right to make the content she wants. But just as she has the right to do what she wants on her channel, her former audience has the right to feel betrayed over being dumped after they carried her this far. I don't see a problem with them bitching about it. I don't see a problem with them leaving her because of it. But likewise, I do not believe she should be forced to graduate.
I DO believe she should refund the donothon money she got for promising a "spicy ASMR stream" now that said content won't be happening anymore. An agreement was made and money changed hands. If you renege on an agreement you should refund them.

>>70512058
none of them bagged her in high school so if they come here it will only be to be reminded of and suffer their inferiority, hope they enjoy their shared used goods

>>70512020
okay but some of the gfe vtubers are knowingly going beyond kayfabe in order to manipulate people. I don't understand how you can defend a girl talking about she's lonely and single irl when it's a complete lie

>>70511980
Cognitive dissonance? I mean, even if you're overly sympathetic and develop the sort of attachment to a stranger where you start to actually care for the actress, you shouldn't wish that she'd spend the prime of her life without any romantic love, and you're already cucked beyond imagining as she's performing in front of hundreds to thousands.

I like how this board constantly complains about women posters being overly emotional bitches rightfully complaining btw, fuck nijisisters yet somehow justify making the same thread over and over about some 3view deciding to not be GFE anymore.
She completely cut all this content and the people associated with it off out of no where, its bullshit yeah but is talking about it over and over gonna change anything? Just move on and find someone who actually wants to give their fans GFE content, it's not worth the energy crying about it over and over.

>>70511899
>I dunno how people get attached that way.
you wouldn't understand

>>70511822
You can't provide any proof for anything you say because there isn't any and you just deflect to >tourist >do your reps >damage control when someone calls you out for just completely making shit up. I'm sick of it and it's the actual tourists who just take what you say at face value and assume it's true.

>>70511899
It's unironically mental illness, and this is coming from someone who indulges in it on the regular. If you don't get it, congratulations, you have a life and aren't so miserably starved of validation for your own existence that you need a woman to skinwalk an anime avatar and lie to you that she gives half a shit that you're alive.
Also, get the fuck out

>>70512123
>inferiority
How did you come to that conclusion? Theyre the ones that dicked her so hard she is willing to throw her professional carreer for them. Meanwhile you are here spending $10000 for her used socks
At least Riro fucked her fans, and for less

>>70512138
You seem to fully understand why people like GFE but just want to dunk on them. Fuck off.

>>70512185
she's effectively got 400 boyfriends she just broke up with. they're angry. let them vent, they'll calm down in a few weeks. it's therapeutic to yell into the void about your problems sometimes.

>>70512050
I'm capable of projection and thus can put myself in the man's position and am just there for the stimulus anyways. If I did develop an attachment for a stranger I could never hope to be with, I can't imagine myself also hating her so much as to wish she'd be single for life.

>>70512073
And followed them and followed another non-content creator who was an even bigger shitter. No-one gives a shit about the other guys she followed that weren’t cunts or suspicious around girls half their age.

>>70511753
Anon, do you have a torrent of the imouto asmr. I've been looking for that for days

>>70512138
>you start to actually care for the actress, you shouldn't wish that she'd spend the prime of her life without any romantic love
They don't actually care about the person. They'll pretend they do, but they don't.

>>70512277
Cool, so you should understand how it's easy to project that the girl is talking to you and you alone.
>If I did develop an attachment for a stranger I could never hope to be with, I can't imagine myself also hating her so much as to wish she'd be single for life.
And?

>>70512281
>followed 2 (two) people and liked 1 (one) post
HOW COULD SHE DO THIS

>>70512290
so true sister, she should fuck dudes on stream to show how supportive her fans are

>>70512335
NTA but come on man, it's not about numbers, it's about who they are.

>>70512131
I'm not defending anyone dumbass, I'm explaining gfe
Girls who do hard gfe are also horrible people and should repent

>>70512346
so many people itt don't understand gfe in the slightest, i genuinely wonder why they're here discussing gfe.

>>70512281
>>70511891
>PL shit
Yeah you guys are obsessed schizos at all kek
What does any of this petty women gossip have to do with her actual streams?

>>70512365
Why do you assume she knew that they were pedophiles? Do you think normal people check court records and do background checks for each of their Twitter follows?

>>70510564
If you hint that you now have a bf and want to be faithful to him most people will respect the transparency.

>>70512418
>>70512335
Where is this weak defense springing from? Is this spergout thread being raided rofl?

>>70512418
>convince people your feelings for them are very, very real
>be surprised when people also have very real feelings for you and want to know more about you

If you want to get full GFE parasocial, you cannot expect people to accept that you exist in a vacuum.

>>70512418
You mean all the streams that she deleted and will not be doing anymore? You are genuinely retarded. Seek medical help

>>70512469
holy fucking shit dude, come on lmfao. no they will not.

>>70512280
https://gofile.io/d/GXSSSL
I have this one.

>>70512418
>convince lonely mentally ill men you are deeply in love with them, tell them to cum for you, pee in a cup with their name written on live on stream
>WTF YOU GUYS ARE OBSESSED SCHIZOS LOOKING FOR PL AND WATCHING HER STREAM WHERE SHE ADDRESSES THIS SITUATION IN MORE DEPTH
bruh

>>70512346
if you think that a girl should be single her entire life so she can continue to pretend to be your virtual girlfriend then you simply don't care about her as a person, period
it's one thing to ask that she politely hide her personal relationship status from her streams, but we both know that gfe schizos go a lot further than that with their expectations

>>70512335
Think of it this way. Imagine if. Imagine if a holomember decided to follow and like Elira from Niji en after her acting like a cunt. How would people react to that?

>>70512399
they are either knowingly being ignorant in order to try own le incels to feel better about themselves, or are just genuinely brain damaged and can't comprehend someone else's thought process

>>70502489
>Has there ever been a bigger waste of opportunities in vtubing history?
Yes, Kiara taking an EN spot.

>>70512469
People had a literal melty because they assumed she was dating a guy because she liked his tweet on her PL, this is such a dumb tourist thing to say.

>>70512559
>her entire life
nobody is a vtuber for their entire life you dumbfuck, if you don't want to deal with what people expect from gfe then don't fucking do it, it's not that hard

>>70512471
>I can't think of anything else so I'm going to call you a raider

>>70512629
I'm not defending GFE vtubers you fucking retard, try reading back a couple of replies before replying with stupid irrelevant bullshit.

>>70512277
>>70511899
It breaks immersion.

They aren't there as an aid for physical stimulus like with porn. They are there to feel loved. Knowing that your simulated girlfriend has a boyfriend does rather break the spell.

Some are in too deep and get really angry, but even those that are fully aware of how illusory and ephemeral that love is and remain detached are going to shop elsewhere for that simulated experience.

>>70512418
She implied she was gonna leave idol and funneled her fans over to her PL and went as far as to rebrand her PL for them. I wouldn’t call them schizos lmao

>>70490489
im not even into gfe, but the general fact that she abandoned her main content out of nowhere after a long break is mental. a lot of vtubers dont like the idea of taking a break because they know they will tank the loss and have to make up for all the lost time. yet this girl throws it all away.

>>70512480
I'm not the one digging deep into her PL follows to find a reason to go completely mental. I thought the whole point of kayfabe was having suspension of disbelief

>>70512735
In retrospect it was a little naive that she thought she could just migrate the fanbase like that, especially without making some concessions like zero male interaction.

>>70512471
unironically yes, even /jidf/ is raided with astroturfers who pretend to love her new direction

>>70512711
you're strawman is fucking stupid and makes no sense, kill yourself

>>70512782
People didn’t dig lmao. She wanted them to find it after insinuating that she was gonna leave idol.

>>70512782
It's funny because these types of anons would probably be the type to dig through their girlfriends' phone and text histories and ask them about every little thing they deem suspicious.
It starts to make sense why these guys are terminally single.

>>70512767
Well, the fact that she had a long break to get them used to the idea she'd be leaving is about her only saving grace here - though I doubt she cares enough for the emotional health of her chat to have taken the break for that reason, as some of her other actions have shown.

GFE or not, it shows a lack of empathy to the point of being irresponsible, and that combination can be dangerous.

>>70512735
If she was going to leave idol and fully commit then why would she even bother doing ANY of this content backtracking? You can't just up and leave when under contract, this seems pretty flimsy

If she actually wanted to do that she'd just do the bare minimum on main and quietly wait until she can leave.

>>70512559
>her entire life
fucking kek. Graduate then. Or don't do gfe / pander to gachikoi at all? It's very simple. believing anything else means you're a cuck

>>70512626
That's because being honest matters.

>>70512829
I'll spell it out clearly for your esl lack of reading comprehension ass, I am correctly pointing out that gfe fans do not care about the person behind the vtuber avatar. If they cared, they would not insist on them staying single. The vtuber is still a manipulative person for doing gfe in the first place.

>>70512792
The thing is no one is upset that she followed men. They are upset that she followed inflammatory and suspicious people who happen to be men. There were other dudes she followed that no one gave a shit about.

>>70512926
>Being honest matters
Yeah, cause being honest about something worked out really well for pic rel, right?

Let's be real here, honesty just makes things completely worse.

>>70511430
I don't think IRyS is trying to hide her PL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0f0OVcb1gA

>>70512910
She was convinced to stay that much is obvious. In her first announcement on Twitter after her controversy she said she talked to management and said she is here to stay implying she suggested leaving.

>>70512959
>They are upset that she followed inflammatory and suspicious people who happen to be men.
How is she supposed to know that they are supposedly "inflammatory and suspicious"? Complete cope, people were mad because she was interacting with men and stalked said men to "validate" their anger after the fact.

>>70512996
>homobeggar still mindbroken after 6 months that she wont collab the males he oshis
You seem to be in the wrong thread

>>70513042
why are women so retarded

>>70512996
lmao

>>70512926
>is honest
>gets called a whore
>is dishonest
>gets stalked and doxxed then called a lying whore
don't question it, this is how things should be!

>>70513084
my mom isn't. more women need to be like my mom tbdesu

>>70512719
Personally, I think I could still enjoy the GFE experience even knowing the girl has had miles of cock run through her, as it's the fictional character I'm having the experience with, not an actual woman whom I can interact with. Unlike a real woman, I'm more concerned with the quality of her voice and ability to seduce and comfort than her personal life or moral compass. A woman who has been around the block a few times is more likely to be skilled at that than some kissless virgin who will just be awkward AF.

But yes, I could see how for some people the boyfriend might be "immersion breaking".

>>70513061
>Can't even refute the claim so he validates my point instead
Thanks... I guess?
Glad we both agree now that honestly does jack shit and it's better to keep up appearances.

>>70513084
I appreciate you gendering me correctly anon, it makes me feel valid.

>>70512050
What? Plenty of women do doujins

>>70513139
Maybe dont lie to your fans so that you wont be put in that situation.

>>70513175
post tits roastie

>>70512950
Vast majority of gfe fans already assume the vtuber isn’t celibate. They just don’t want to hear about it. As for “caring” about the vtuber, why does that matter? Since when do vtubers care about fans, much less the manipulative snakes that do gfe???

>>70513167
you just sound like a giant cuck, can't understand your mentality at all

>>70513149
Unironic advice to other anons, the best way to be kinder and more empathetic to women is to treat them the way you'd like the women in your family to be treated.

>>70512926
Anon, she's pretending to be a girlfriend for thousands. She lies for a living. If you pay for anything, you pay her for being good at lying.

But yes, she slipped, and thus apparently isn't all that good at it.

>>70513172
What point? Last time I checked Shiori still didnt collab with males despite you crying how she will be a holostar cocksleeve for months.
Did you maybe confuse her and nerissa? Easy mistake to make if you are a hololive anti and dont watch them, they both have black hair

>>70513042
Ok obviously you don’t know the full story or are just baiting. Those people had already stirred shit up in her community in the past. She saw this and deleted her old PL to remove her association with them. They are not just random people she decided to like.

lonely retards really have nothing better to do than argue with trolls ITT you gotta get over it i know it hurts and you're mad but other, better gfe exist out there. ones that aren't going to try to wipe the slate clean and curse you after.

>>70513265
The point I was making was that Shiori tried to be honest about something she wanted to do with her fanbase( collabing with her friends), and to this day is still heavily anti'ed by certain people for it, despite not even committing to it.

Basically, being transparent about things don't actually help at all and you will still get the same amount of hate either way.

>>70513254
Maybe they should treat me like how the women in my family treat me first.

>>70513267
What shit did they stir up? I'll admit that's a knowledge gap and happy to admit I'm wrong if there's actually reason to believe she'd have known they are inflammatory people to interact with.

>>70513385
read >>70489103

>>70513367
Be a man. Also, be the bigger man. Ignore people who aren't worth your time. You'll eventually find someone who reciprocates your kindness but not if you're not putting any out to begin with.

>>70513449
Unless I'm missing something nothing in that person's post involves anything before she recreated her PL account. She unfollowed the oshislayer guy after she privated her PL.

>>70513365
She meant she'd just do Advent collabs and nothing else but people ran wild with their own things

>>70513385
I’ll admit I don’t have the receipts saved but they messaged some of her hardcore fans basically mocking them. They also mocked her fans publicly on Twitter for liking GFE and that they were close to her IRL. Again I don’t feel like digging this shit up because it’s a sore point.

>>70510130
There's no way... she any good?

>>70513532
Oshislayer is still there. He just changed his name back to what it was originally.

>>70513577
And why would she know about any of that?

>>70510564
People all said graduate, but that shit's a placebo and really doesn't matter because anyone who would go schizo over it (tho tbf most all of her fans who went schizo had many more reasons to do so than just the GFE shit /vt/ likes harping on) would still go schizo and feel/act betrayed, much like her /k/ groomers did when she dropped them. There's no painless way to change gears like that, at all.

The best and really only viable way to handle it would have been addressing it sincerely and doing a verbal dogeza about it on her return stream, basically. Literally any kind of acceptance of personal responsibility or remorse about anything would have dramatically changed the outcome for her. It would have looked bad to all the dramafags and sisters passing by, but that's far more preferable than what she ended up doing. Though like I said that's only a part of what pissed her fans off, so

>>70513253
Well, if I was looking for a wife, it'd be a different story, but I'm just looking for a simulation to immerse myself in temporarily. I'm not going to pretend I'm getting anything more, but maybe I'd enjoy it more deeply if I could bring myself to.

Though even when it comes to hunting for SO/RL, I feel that finding out a girl is still a virgin in her late 20's would be a huge red flag, just need her to *currently* not have a lover.

>>70513644
Well if she deleted her old PL account that was associated with them after it happened. I think it’s reasonable to infer that she knew.

>>70509049
>jews try to make less money
Anon are you retarded? I'm not a boobro nor did I watch Yuko but even I witnessed the autistic screeching that happened when her groomer did the whole XxoshislayerxX thing. This was her decision.

>>70513622
Alright fair enough, not sure why she wouldn't clean that up.