/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

The reality is grey, it's not black or white
>We bullied her into suicide, but she deserved it.

>>70476868
i dont care, like... at all
nijiEN is on its last legs, i hope it dies soon
Now if you dont mind me, im going back to my holo streams.

>>70476868
>It's not my fault I'm evil, she deserved it

Jfc that’s a borderline admission

This bitch is a legit fucking psycho

>>70477020
>>We bullied her into suicide, but she deserved it.
This but unironically. And she couldn't even do that right.

It's hard dealing with the loss of sextoy and not getting to milk your cucks for valentines and birthday merch.

>>70476868

>>70477192
It's NijiEN. You're either a normal person that keeps to themselves and just wants to make a living from playing video games online, or you're just a crazy person. There's not much of a middle ground.

>>70476868
Here, have one. Costs around 3 of her birthday stream.

>Seeing all the hate on the internet made me question if I am really a good person
Jesus Christ if you ever have to ask yourself this question, the answer is no. Fucking narcissist
The whole stream sounds like picrel

>I was so hurt by the hate online
BWAHAHAHAHA. The only thing that “hurts” people like this is getting punched in the ego. Like, for example, their entire concert getting mogged by a piece of fucking paper with some lines scribbled on it.
People like Emma are empty, I’ve met plenty myself. That’s why they can cry tears of joy when a co-worker they don’t like attempts to commit suicide. Any pity and sympathy is wasted on them. The only value they provide is the entertaining dumpster fire that they spawn when they inevitably crash and burn.

>>70477297
On the plus side, Enna now has the support of the chink fujoshis that used to absolutely loathe her for "toying" with that white nigger Kyo.
They are running gayops tying to pump the vod with good comments. Nyfco was on fire trying to pump her up, and they barely managed 1500ccv for a couple of hours.

>>70476868
If u have to say something multiple times to believe it, it's probably a lie.

>>70476868
>Things are not black and white, people are fallible and imperfect
Kek, what a bitch.

>>70476868
just apologize to Selen? it's not hard

>>70476868
>The reality is grey, it's not black or white
What compelled her to say this on her stream? Did somebody superchat a question asking her if she really is in the clique or one of the bullies?

>>70477488
Imagine how I felt, having to sit through so many hours of a nasally voiced chink with a vancouverite accent.
I am a true hero, in my eyes.

>>70476868
I mean it seems to me we understood perfectly, and any chance for actual growth was thrown out the window by gaslighting yourself that your not a bad person you just did some bad things....

>>70477470
>>70477520
QRD?

ALOUPEEPS SHUT THE FUCK UP

SAY THAT YOU LOVE THE NIJISANJI FAMILY.

NOTHING IS WRONG.

>>70477648
probably the entire discourse on 4chan/reddit/twitter calling her one of the bullies?

>>70476868
>read:I got my chink pussy stretched
by me

>>70476868
>Things are not black and white
So she fucked a yellow one this time?

>>70477795
eww, thanks for taking one for the team tho

>>70477648
Impossible, chats are still moderated. Which means she is literally closing herself in an echo chamber screaming “I’m a good person” until she believes it herself.
It’s ironic that in the mental hoops to not simply be sorry, you basically admit you have something to be sorry of.

>>70476868
enna isn't even worth a piece of A4 paper

>>70477648
>implying
The chat is open to 4-week subscribers, and *message deleted* was going around like it was going out of style.
Even neutral comments were getting nuked.
The superchats (I counted like 20 serious ones tops) were all from aloucucks telling her they missed her.

>>70477741
Things genuinely would have never ended up like this for her if it werent for the fact that Elira outed herself, Millie, and Enna as people that Doki and her lawyer had serious problems with. It's more like Elira went
>Fuck you, if I'm going down I'm taking you two assholes with me.
What a lovely family NijiEN is.

>>70476868
>Seeing all the hate on the internet made me question if I am really a good person
Interesting that she's started to reflect on herself.

>>70477741
>Admitting containment breach
Then there is nothing to say, she can read very well we don’t think she got the right answe.
Got it Enna?

>>70476868
>my le bullying... le pushed someone to suicide?... maybe i am not good...
lmao

>>70476868
LMAO thanks for summary, seems interesting enough to watch it

>>70477015
what is the meaning of bee posting

don't care hope she graduates and is never seen again

>>70476868
enna... you're not a good person and never were.

>>70476868
damn, Niji PR told her to show some humility?

>>70476868
So she's back? Good for her.

>>70477955
Elira only implicated Millie. Yes, you could easily draw the conclusion that Enna is also involved, which people did, but if Elira really wanted to make sure she took them with her, she would have mentioned Enna as well.
Also thanks to OP to sharing the info if true. That's a good laugh.

I don't care that Selen/Doki might be a weak dramatic bitch, Enna and her clique sabotaged her endeavors within the company for their own benefit. Prove me wrong.
You can't.

I am now watching Rosemi on a second monitor, will update if there's anything interesting being said.

Chat is 2-week sub mode, and heavily moderated, but chat is positive as far as I can tell.

>>70476868
>yes we bullied her but...it's because she was all weird and annoying and shit...am I a bad person? no...I'm a good person who acted normally, thank you aloucucks...

i'd still fuck enna at least once

>>70476868
>only time /vt/ watches streams is to look for drama
you guys really are trooning out

>>70478285
We already have pretty decent proof that Elira or at least someone was pulling strings to make some talents more successful than others in terms of merch and marketing. It's really not much of a question at this point.

>>70477834
It was far more than one ;)

>>70478181
She's probably the person who'd be affected the least. As long as she doesn't put her foot in her mouth, there is nothing that'd stick to her.
Also she kept her PL account so she can bounce if she wishes to.

>>70477721
there's an A4 sheet of paper that she will fill up with her signature being auctioned on Doki's charity. going for like $4450

>>70477721
Enna's entire 2024 bday supa earnings are getting mogged by a piece of a4 paper being auctioned in doki's charity stream

>>70478271
She did you fucking deaf retard.

>>70478271
>Elira
I'm waiting to see if she's worth being my idol for life.

>>70476868
>The reality is grey, it's not black or white
>Things are not black and white, people are fallible and imperfect

In her members damage control stream she said something similar. The way I read this, is Enna is basically confessing to have been one of the bullies but finds herself justified. Probably because in her head:
1. Selen was an unapologetic cunt
2. It was really bullying, Selen overreacted

>>70477695
Do Vancouverites actually talk like that? I thought she just had a veneer of residual Honklish accent.

Why does she keep making things worse for herself. Her phrasing sounds like she's intentionally trying to say yes I fucking did it. Just shut up, maybe give a positive message to your viewers, ask them not to engage in the drama and that you're not a part of it or whatever.

>>70478285
Nobody likes you and you have no friends. Mocking someone for being weak is subhuman bugman behavior.

>>70476868
Why doesn't she even try to actually fucking deny it?

How do you act like Enna and assume you're a good person?

>>70476868
she better get comfy with her current viewers cuz she will never get successful, whatever she does. her sin stays with her.

>>70478271
Listen to the black stream again in slow mode, Elira mentioned that the documentation contained her, Enna and Millie's addresses.

>>70478497
Yeah honkouver chinks speak like bootleg valley girls for whatever reason. A lot of voice fry and weird inflections

>>70478271
No, Elira did. Watch the moment at 2:17
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o65VwnQvWW4
>One section of this document alludes to a section where Millie Enna and I live.
You could probably argue that Elira slurred her speech and just said I twice, but considering that all 3 are friends have been prior to joining NijiEN, it's clear that those 3 are all the bullies and that the clique BS was real.

>>70476868
-I am more merficiful than most of you. I would impregnate her, then nearly at birth, I would cut her open with a box cutter and take the baby for myself. It would be tainted by her genes, but I would make sure that it refuses its worst impulses and lives an upright and productive life. If Enna ever has children consensually with Kyo or another liver, they will ruin the rest of her life because neither of the parents will know how to deal with children. Only a rape then forcable adoption like me will know how to save them. I hope she's ready for this reality.

>>70477273

>>70474137
The aren't even denying the bullying happened anymore. It is officially the end of the line.

>>70478515
Sociopaths literally don't think they did anything wrong. You are asking for behavior of a person who would likely not have pushed someone who been part of a situation that went as far as it did. If Enna was capable of being able to recognize that she is making things worse for herself, she likely would have not been part of the problem to begin with.

>>70478515
>People asking for Elira to be evil on /vt/
>she reads it
>alr I'll try that role before Elira to out her myself!
This is the result

>>70478271
ope, here comes revisionism.

>>70478573
Because these retards know there's a leaker and there's a reality where Doki litigates if they outright make false statements of fact.
The lawyers coached them like toddlers to avoid any misfires.

>>70478593
If you can go off on a newborn child that has neither opinions nor accomplishments, you have such a skewed view of the world, there's no way you could look at yourself rationally.

>>70478573
Because she remembers everything she said about Selen on her streams, and it's very easy to nitpick them. Here is 1 example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzkVEA6eI9I and then you compare it to how a friend would react https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL_GGsfzRaU

>>70478664
>>70478618
>>70478450
My mistake, she slurs "Enna" it sounded like "and" to me. Lol, good shit. Glad all she put both of them in the frying pan along with her.

>>70478285
I want Niji to die while BPDbird gets exposed for being a manipulative menhera cunt. Both sides are pretty blatantly shit.

>>70477528
Its so weird how theres a community of psychotic femcels that are constantly at war with imaginary enemies in the vtuber fandom of all places.

>>70478420
>>70478443
Thank you, that's hilarious.

>>70476868
am I reading it wrong or is she saying she admits to the bullying allegations?

>>70478573
Because in her opinion, it was indeed a form of bullying. Of course it was "justified", hence "grey". Unlike Vox whose head is so far up his ass that he genuinely saw nothing wrong with his actions, hence he wouldn't get in trouble for lying.

I love that this topic has become “Nijisis accuses Elira and Millie of bullying to defend her oshi, failing to observe she admitted the bullying.”

>>70478865
WTF, I love Elira even more now. Go queen! Take them fucking down. Burn it all!

>>70478865
I did the same good catch.

>>70478933
Yeah, they finally started watching the girls, even though they've been shitting on them since Luxiem launched.
The fujoshis are now unironically watching Rosemi, trying to pump her to 2k (delusional).

Who could have ever even imagined that these mentally ill fujoshis would be watching Rosemi of all people

>>70479015
I mean what do you expect? She goes on vacation to escape the plethora of questions and when she’s back closes herself in an echo chamber to gaslight herself in public view for 5 hours straight.
That’s how you develop sociopathic tendencies.

>>70476868
I bet she said all this while getting railed by Diego.

>>70478664
What even fucking way is there that they are outright named in a document of Selen's "experiences" other than being a defendant?

>>70476868
Bros, how do we save Enna?

>>70476868
that's cool, please stick to your thread next time.

Reminder that these dumbfucks are all still in their 20s. Their brains ain't done forming yet. On top of that, they work for a scumfuck billionaire (also in his 20s but he's a billionaire so fuck him) who is still trying to hire support staff who need advanced skills for minimum wage. It's a tried and tested recipe for a Lord of the Flies environment.

There's always the possibility that they get out of that shithole and become better people.

>>70479482
She’s getting less than 2k and banning members left and right to echo chamber bro. Sit and wait, you can have her when she gets 3digit and starts to cry to be forgiven.

>>70479750
Hopefully

>>70476868
god i want to spit her in the face then piss on her mother

>>70476868
>Yes, we bullied Selen to the point that she attempted suicide,
>and we never considered her feelings or worked together as colleagues (family members) to make sure her project went through.
>aM i A bAd pErSoN?
Seriously?

>>70479750
im willing to oshi post redemption arc if it's emotionally fulfilling

>>70478375
NDF has finally wised up to "troon" now. Unfortunately they fail to realize this epithet is exclusively used by Holocorns for abusing homobeggars.

>>70479812
She and Rosemi have virtually the same ccv, which is quite interesting. How the might have fallen.
Rosemi just got a funnel from her model-sister a couple of minutes ago and peaked at 1700. Enna struggled to reach that peak even with the comeback buff.

All I wasnt is her father loving his son more than his daughter.

>>70479187
>the operation to convert femcels into cgdct gf's is actually succeeding
I'm sorry for doubting.

>>70479917
Again, the zatsudan was not to talk about her travel. It was self-gaslighting therapy. She knows things are not going good, that people figured out.
It’s hard to self-reflect on yourself, but when you close yourself in an echo chamber and have friends that will tell you “don’t say sorry, keep smiling or we all get hurt” you become a sociopath. Can’t change yourself if first you don’t admit there is a need.

>>70478866
>sisters are forced to use kamikaze tactics after getting btfo so much
>m-muh both s-sides bad
Grim

>>70479750
Nah she is just damaged. This lack of empathy and self-absorbed redirection is textbook narcissism.

>>70480089
Rosemi still got the Selene load? I think she is legitimately not caring, she’s graduating after the tournament, she looks completely out of the circlejerk.

>>70478733
It will be genuinely fascinating to see how Ethyria's panel at Offkai pans out. At least two of those three talents were legally implicated as being bullies in Selen's document, something that Elira came out and publicly admitted, while Vox Akuma tried to defend their actions by stating "in my opinion it wasn't harassment! leaving is also possible at anytime tho!!!1!". So they already have that problem to deal with, nevermind the fact that Nijisanji EN is now brand poison across North America. I don't know where the fuck they can go from there because all it takes are some hecklers or just one question about Selen to one-guy them to where they're too hot-headed to think straight.
At this point, the best thing NijiEN can do is just keep Ethyria quarantined to cons in SEA, thats probably where they still have defenders.

>>70479750
Anon, have you ever met someone like Enna? I have. They don’t become better people because they’re not really people in the first place. They’re more like insects, or aliens maybe. Any and every emotion they have is a hollow facsimile, and the only purpose they have in life is to harm whoever they can harm. I’m pretty sure that ye olde stories of demons and malevolent spirits came from people who encountered Emma’s ilk.

>>70478733
That picture is pretty fucking self-serving.

>>70477695
Thank you for your service.

>>70479750
>20s
Elira is in her 20s, but Enna? She's a fucking hag!

>>70478851
>comments are paused
Lmao even Nijiclippers are doing damage control

>>70480654
I would like to hear Enna have a melty in front of a crowded room only to have her mic cut seconds too late.

>>70476868
she's just a piece of shit whos only personality trait is being an edgy bitch

Not one timestamp in the whole fucking thread and skipping around I didn't hear anything about the drama

>>70480654
I love like 2 hours away from San Fran and if I have the weekend off I might go see the trainwreck.

>>70480654
It’s America, there is no end to stans for any cause. They will likely gatekeep the shit out of the venue to make it look successful.

>>70481862
Seriously this, anyone has timestamps?

>>70481278
>Comments are paused.
Yikes, that’s not something you are gonna spin, any comment not there is already making the dramarounds.
Looks like March will be the month of “they should just apologize but they are gonna bleed themselves instead.”

>>70483336
Was watching Doki, not Enna’s 5 hour story. Go look at the vods I guess.
What I can tell you for sure is France has nothing worth a 5 hours talk.

>>70476868
No idea what stream you're talking about but that all sounds entirely reasonable.

>>70476868
>>70478733
The funniest and most telling part is at no point does anyone simply deny the bullying or abuse. It's that Selen deserved it. What's the point of damage controlling this branch anymore?

>>70480654
The best course of action for that as well as Niji streams, livers and the corpo itself is total isolation and ostracism by the whole vtubing scene. Everyone should just pretend they don't exist. It's the only legitimate way for us vtuber fans to boycott them and make them realize they're unwanted and harmful. Any sort of news about them will make the rounds here and on youtube in any case. They should just be utterly sidelined and ignored. And once we get the full picture girls like Enna should never again be allowed an Internet presence in vtubing.

Think of it all as basic hygiene. Nijisanji just shouldn't be allowed to continue existing in the EN sphere. I have zero expectations they're able to fix themselves to such an extent they could memoryhole the fact they almost killed a girl.

>>70481278
You know this reminds me of another Niji vtuber who making a joke while playing a Chilla's art game. Wonder how that turned out

>>70476868
You misunderstand me, i dont care about the truth, i want TOTAL NIJI DEATH.

WHERE ARE THE TIMESTAMPS

>>70485576
there are none

>>70477470
Kek

>>70477015
Thank you for blessing my eyes with this lovel6 guinBEE pig!

>>70480654
They will most likely gatekeep and keep the event well guarded they might event shut the mics if someone went offrails

>>70477695
I was in Iraq and Afghanistan, but I feel you deserve a service medal more than me

>>70476868
Well, here goes my last sliver of hope that she wasn't actually a piece of shit person.

>>70477939
That would unironically funny to watch in real time

>>70476868
you just described every woman any time anything happens
boring

>>70476868
>"was I a bully?"
>"I don't think so"
>"but even then, so what? just get support lol"
>"payed vacations BIIITCH"
Damn
insightful.

>>70478351
if your thirsty to get herpes be my guest.

>>70487305
I mean, I’ll give it to the situation, things are not gonna get better for her, especially if Niji keeps their head into the ground.
Unironically I just realized Doki has fucked them over because the charity is bringing positive PR and interest, so people by association are being reminded of the entire plot.
So this is literally her wake up call because I don’t think her perfect lifestyle will endure much more. Either start actually looking at the mirror and stop gaslighting yourself or that voice is not gonna get her anywhere if she doesn’t make it in the idol scene…and good luck with that.

>>70477015
GUINEA PIRATE

>>70476868
>The reality is grey, it's not black or white
thats what a blackie would say to appeal to whites

>>70480654
They will just have con staff ask of you to show a membership badge of at least 6 months or being subbed for the a year and link you a unlisted ongoing test livestream of the respective liver they're going to a meet and greet to comment to confirm.

>>70487924
In my opinion, it wasn't bullying.

>>70478271
There is a threshold a person can reach at which the ego takes over and it takes losing everything to be shaken out of.
Enna, the clique, are right in the middle of the ego paradise.
Maybe in ~6 years when they all hit the wall and have humble living conditions they can have a chance to silence their egos, but for now? No.

>>70483476
Yeah... at this point, the cat is out of the bag so the only thing they CAN do is apologize even if it's performative...

>>70490126
sorry, meant to reply to >>70479750

>>70490126
They hit the wall at birth, have you seen them? That flipnigger Millie looks like the product of generational incest. Enna is an obese chink that looks like she was pummeled with a pan as a toddler to flatten her face. Elira is an obese hapa with pimples, acne cysts, and scars.

One of the reasons so many Vtubers are yab machines and extremely mentally ill is because they are unfathomably ugly. They grow delusional because they get male attention after having lived their entire lives as laughingstocks/ghosts. It causes cognitive dissonance and a flare up of histrionic/narcissistic tendencies.

all the retards begging for timestamps are dramatubers itching to make a new vid

>>70477020
>>70477273
>BUT she didn't succeed so no biggy.

>>70479388
Could be named as witnesses. Doubt it.

>>70477273
>And she couldn't even do that right
kekus

>>70490724
I have seen them. Millie looks like Bogdanoff which I found hilarious. Both Enna and Elira have something unsettling about the way their faces look. Like the vibe you get when mentally challenged people cock their heads and make those demon smiles. Their eyelids are also eerily shaped- symmetric half circles without any characteristics. Like how a child would draw eyes.
Once Enna's singing and Elira's body lose all value, maybe they'd have a chance to silence their egos because at that point there's nothing an ego can whisper except going nuclear at undeserving victims followed by suicide.

>>70478142

>>70490724
All three of them are ugly?
Damn, they really belong together.
You'd think at least the leader wouldn't be

>>70478443
>getting BTFO by a piece of paper
How can you even recover from this?

>>70480654
Bros, imagine a heckler yelling the question at one of them at a convention. It could become the next "Is this an out of season April Fools joke?" meme. It would be so kino. Spies, get on it. Imagine.

They never apologized and opened themselves up to hecklers LOL

>>70476868
>Seeing all the hate on the internet made me question if I am really a good person
she almost got there
almost

I'd only fuck Enna in the ass, shit's cleaner than the other hole

>>70480654
I hope people throw tomatoes.

>>70480654
Vox’s
>in my opinion it wasn't a form of harassment
lives rent free in my head because with that discord leak from Selen it confirms that the livers indeed did gang up on her to shit talk her, telling her to graduate amongst other things, after the MV fiasco.

What I don't get is why any of these idiots ever even got involved? If someone I worked with had problems with management I would mind my own business. It's nothing to do with me. Even that they said anything to her about the MV--why was that their business? So stupid

>>70490835
Nah I just wanted to know if OP is a fucking liar dramanigger and now I know he is.

>>70478866
How dare she having fun playing her favorite games, do charity streams and play with her old friends, the fucking cunt needs to pay!
Stay strong sister.

>>70476868
>made me question if I'm a really good person
Bitch you already know you're not a good person. That's okay, just accept it and move on with life.

>>70479750
>It's a tried and tested recipe for a Lord of the Flies environment.
I believe

>>70477520
the sad part is she probably wouldn't have turned out this way if it wasn't for the narcissistic mother she likely grew up with.

>>70492749
This is why I believe she was actually bullied. There’s no legitimate reason the other livers needed to call her about the MV. It should have stayed between her and management.

>>70476868
I'm hopeful it means she can be redeemed. I don't know if I'm the only one who got that vibe.
She just needs to not get swept by the echo chamber like so many other content creators would and think critically in a better state of mind, months, maybe years later.
Easier said than done because she would have to handle the negative stuff until she's able to reflect without succumbing to the easy way out (giving up on yourself and others like Nina for example).
One shortcut would be having someone else who's done worse and being able to reflect on them. If it's Millie though, that path is a dead end for Enna because she's not gonna want to lose a friend (she can't afford to).
The other one would be having a role model that can help her figure things out, but you'd still need to be receptive to criticism from someone you respect (and they need to be frank) so that's a lot of ifs.
Maybe one day. I've seen this happen before, even if only once, so I know it's possible.

>>70493374
All the self admissions of toxic environment is actually crazy

>>70477470
AIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE Get Downnnnnnn Enna don't look!!!!!

>>70476868
The fact that there are people who will believe her is incredibly funny to me.

>>70477939
Sure hope remaining aloupeeps are fat cats cause i don't see how anyone new is going to talk or donate to chat from this point on without looking like a spy entering North Korea kek.

>>70476868
>Seeing all the hate on the internet made me question if I am really a good person
Lol
Really? You were somehow not aware that you yourself are an evil person and a real piece of shit personality and character wise before? It took until this?

>>70492733
it's even better because le retard of vox akuma also heavily implies that niji or someone inside there found her case actually fits as a harassment case, so he either had access to an internal investigation or in those docs he was thoroughly reading

>>70489659
Too much of a hassle lmao

>>70476868
>a good person
>acting like a frigid bitch to a fucking stripper going outside of her pay doing a full contact dance on you
I bet she enjoys kicking puppies too

>>70476868
>Seeing all the hate on the internet made me question if I am really a good person
I investigated myself and concluded that no, Skinner, it's the children who are wrong.

>>70494402
The people that deflect using Enna related picture and just say the most vile shit is not helping either, at this point I don't think it's falseflagger, It's literally her fans.

Who?

>>70476868
>>Seeing all the hate on the internet made me question if I am really a good person
Yeah, you probably should ponder on that if your company has been cited to push one of your former coworkers to attempt suicide two times.

>>70476868

>>70493932
She's a toxic enabler lol

>I was so hurt by the hate online
Yeah? Was it enough to attempt suicide twice? No? Then fuck you, Enna.

>>70477528
dumbass riku made the worst bet at the worst time.
he's betting on fujos to carry EN now, especially since they love to slurp on ike and vox
yet, china's economy is in a meltdown rn with heavy deflation across the board. chinese money is literally fleeing the mainland rn (which is why you see them buying so much land in the US and Canada)
ive never seen such a disastrous business decision in my lifetime. thank god yagoo was at least sane enough to pull out.

>>70495669
Millie? Probably.
Enna, I don't think so.
I actually did watch both infrequently a while back and I really think they're nothing alike. Enna is susceptible to change, whereas Millie is not.
It doesn't mean it will ever happen, but there's a chance is what I'm saying.

>>70493932
She can’t be redeemed because there was nothing to be redeemed in the first place. Enna’s tweet when Selen tried to kill herself showed exactly what she is.
I’ve no doubt that, in some hypothetical where Enna was having a total emotional breakdown in front of me, I could offer her $100 USD to shut the fuck up, and she would immediately stop crying, look me dead in the eye, and hold out her hand to receive the money while acting like nothing happened. If she had proper reason to do so, she could also probably deny she was ever having the breakdown in the first place, even while tears were still on her cheeks, and insist that I imagined the whole thing.
I don’t consider “people” like Enna to be human. They were born as what they were, and they will die as what they were. The best thing everyone can hope for is that they die quickly.

>>70477015
YOU STILL GOT IT
>clap-clap-clap-clap
YOU STILL GOT IT
>clap-clap-clap-clap
YOU STILL GOT IT
>clap-clap-clap-clap

>>70478443
Its also more money than the total donated to Kunai over her entire career. If you deduct youtube cut it beats Victoria's existence too.

>>70490724
heh no wonder enna is such a cunt

>>70492730
>The livers get their screens splattered with tomatoes
>All they will think about is Dokibird
My sides would transcend this plane of existence

>>70492465
Don’t need to do that. Just get enough people to fill the room then when they start talking, have people slowly get up and just leave. Not all at once just one party or so every few minutes

>>70476868
boy it sure is interesting how certain livers keep acting like they're being personally attacked by people (mostly) just being concerned about the possibility of bullying and unprofessional management

>>70480654
Will there be seats this time?

She was the only one that streamed right? Imagine if there were others planning to and backed out last minute. Leaving her on an island to marinate on getting BTFO by a piece of paper

>>70492465
I'm torn on that. There's no need to really force a new meme, and attending their panel would mean dedicating your time and money to them. If anything it'd be interesting to see what the attendance is like, or if the livers turn on one of their actual fans because they ask an actually mild question that doesn't worship their ego.

>>70503569
>>70492465
Most Kino thing to happen without going batshit insane is a whole auditorium wearing Selen masks.

>>70478618
No, she didn't. She says it alludes to where they live since they all live in the same city. If you're gonna correct people, be right

>>70476868
>Seeing all the hate on the internet made me question if I am really a good person
>Things are not black and white, people are fallible and imperfect
So is her answer to question if she's a good person is: well no one is.

>>70476868
I've got a question about Enna bros... If evil, why hot?

>>70493374
They didn't call her, they asked her what was happening and criticized the actions she took because her actions hurt the company as a whole and put them in a stressful work environment. This is actually common in workplaces and it isn't harassment to criticize someone's work ethic

>7 hours stream
>barely above $250 sc earnings
This is beyond grim

>>70476868
If you like her, keep watching and supporting her. If you don't like her, move on. If you like to shitpost and say mean things, well, I guess there's no one to stop you. She's an adult. She will adapt accordingly.

>>70498649
>all those men in the niji event
holy cucks

>>70505298
you never saw enna did you?
if you think thats hot then holy fuck anon your standard is low asf

>>70476868
>mogged by a literal piece of paper
OH NO NO NO NO NO

>>70478618
Why the fuck is this a big deal that every single sister is so hung up on. It's a formal complaint sent to Nijisanji. You know the people who employ them, people who know what they look like, already have copies of id's and passports, social security numbers and bank account details. It's not going to say Elira Pendora you mongrels. You look like a fucking lunatic lodging a complaint against a fictional character.
"Anon was bullied by Mickey fucking Mouse on the 2nd of March 2024 at his residence in Orlando Florida. " That's not how business communication works and most certainly that's not how legal documents work.
If it ever escalates to a court case, the first thing a judge is going to ask to see is records of formal complaints. He looks at the complaint and see an HR complaint against Elira Pendora, Millie Parfait, Enna Asswipe and he's going to look at you like a retard and ask "How the fuck is you employer supposed to take action against a fictional character?"

She was stealth suspended?

Someone explain this shit to me, seems there's as many narratives as there are people
>Elira: Queen bee running the show or useful pawn by niji forced to be the face of the drama
>Enna: literal who that did nothing but is just annoying to be around, or right hand of bully-sanji
>Vox/Ike: wheeled out for maximum effect because they were Selen's friends, or just random EN's who had a gripe with Selen's antics

>>70505806
>HR complaint
Right. An HR complaint that was immediately sent to management and lawyers and not to the HR department. You're a retard

>>70505806
You know Doki threatened multiple times to make the document public right? The same document that alludes to their address. If you don't see how they wouldn't be a little concerned about that, you're a disingenuous retard

>>70505318
The livers behind the 4chan stream have no right to criticize anyone's work ethic.

>>70505978
When HR has done nothing about a series of complaints, which Doki has mentioned a few times, do you keep sending to HR? No you escalate and send it to someone higher up the foodchain.
Godamn sister can you walk and chew gum at the same time without falling over?

>>70506116
No? She said she might have to release details from it. She never claimed even once to release the document unedited.
And in the end, it wasn't even necessary because even if Doki was lying about absolutely everything, it wouldn't justify any of the things Nijisanji has done since terminating her.

>>70506116
Didn't seem to have bothered them when they doxxed Zaion

>>70478733
these fuckers will never admit they've done anything wrong in their life

>>70506116
wait wait she going to made the document public?source?
i thought she just want to made the receipt public not the document,

>>70505913
Elira is the queen bee, Enna and Millie her pawns, all three probably either bullied Selen which lead Elira to say she was scared of being doxxed or Elira is shadow EN management after the initial management fucked off to push an NFT. I personally doubt this a bit because of how much Elira talked about her manager, believed to ex NijiIN member Noor.
Millie and Enna again are implicated because they are Elira's bffs, and we know they have already engaged in bullying/exclusion with Nina.
Vox was there to morally shame Selen
Ike was cheerleading Vox and Elira.

>>70506203
>She never claimed even once to release the document unedited.
She never said she would edit the document. She only said she'd make it public.
>even if Doki was lying about absolutely everything, it wouldn't justify
Is this the new flowchart argument? Realize the possibility that Doki is lying but immediately say the truth doesn't matter? If she lied, the story flips to whatever you think it is to a company trying to defend themselves from an employee going through a power trip who wants to defame them and ruin them

>>70506399
answer me anon
>>70506293
the document and receipt are 2 different things

>>70506220
When did they doxx Zaion? No rrats
>>70506293
>wait wait she going to made the document public?source?
It's what she said in her Neopets stream, wouldn't be surprised if she also didn't threaten to make it public behind closed doors too

>>70476868
I believe in second chances, but how many has she had? Also considering everything, she was 100% part of the bullying and Selen's attempt, so how do you fucking go on an existential crisis thinking that "probably" you are a bad person?

>>70479750
Ah, so you've reached the bargaining stage. It's not like they're people in their late 20s, with explicitly experience behind this type of thing, being online for the past dozen or so years or anything. They're still just poor little babies who just don't know no better, right?

>>70506399
No, even if a company was trying to defend itself from a rogue employee, it wouldn't justify the termination notice nor the blackbox stream. Even if by some miracle they were in the right, they clearly overreached and fucked up BAD.

Also, cite your sources on her making the document public unedited. Find me the exact tweet or timestamp or I'm going to say you're full of shit. We WATCHED the damn streams and read the tweets. We know you're lying.

>>70479750
>They are still babies in their 20s
Are you fucking serious? Sure the brain stops developing until the age of 25, but so what? From a very young age one is more than capable of learning good morals.

>>70506518
the the document and receipt are 2 different things
>receipt
is her screenshot of any conversation or proof that she gather herself
>document
is the one that she send to her lawyer then niji HR that has the personal info of elira,etc
that's completely 2 different things
are you sure she says that
timestamps?

>>70506116
Just because some says "I have the receipts" doesn't mean they're going public. It means they can prove their claims factually if they have to. You do know redacting documents is possible right? What's there to gain for her releasing names and addresses - a counter lawsuit and the destruction of the goodwill she's built up? A target on her back for doxxing? Blacklisted from the industry. You lot would be great employees for NijiEN PR & legal. Panic at the slightest thing and shoot yourself in the foot in the process.

>>70506293
of course they made it the fuck up
doki was talking about the events, not the document itself, niji just shat itself fighting ghosts after cutting comms and are pretending they weren't overreacting all along, even when they had a whole week to figure it out before sending out their shitty 15min hit piece.

>>70506518
>It's what she said in her Neopets stream
Timestamp? Because I just rewatched it and she didn't say that at all, the opposite actually. The document was never supposed to be shared to anyone and it was supposed to be signed and agreed upon by everyone.

>>70506638
>Even if by some miracle they were in the right, they clearly overreached and fucked up BAD.
They defended themselves from allegations they knew would be made and were limited to what they could legally say. That's the opposite of overreach

>We know you're lying
https://www.youtube.com/live/A1YCUbQOJB0?si=3i8rVlGYsAMC8VMu
12:05

Oops. Inb4
>She never said it'd be unedited
She never said it would be edited. Start watching streams and stop embarrassing yourself

Ok so who is breaking the drama loose again? Kyo?

>>70506970
>I will put up another statement later on [...] because I believe that there are some lies that are being told right now
You're full of shit, anon. Or your timestamp is wrong.

>>70505913
Elira: De facto NijiEN manager
Millie: Slack manager
Enna: Enabler and Rigger

>>70506399
>>70506970
>She never said she would edit the document. She only said she'd make it public.
anon, youre retarded to think she wouldnt have ran the info past her legal consul to prevent doxxing related info from being on there if it went public.
the fact she has followed legals advice proves she wouldve most likely only released safe info that wouldnt get her counter sued.
youre acting like shes nijisanji staff and would willingly fuck her reputation over just to get small wins.

>>70507058
Lol. LMAO even. You're blatantly ignoring the parts where she says she's going to release the document and that she was planning on it too. Did you cover your ears or something?

>>70507200
>You're blatantly ignoring the parts where she says she's going to release the document
I asked for the timestamp. Not my fault you can't find it because it doesn't exist.

Wonder how will Enna's SC count fare for this month at this rate

>>70507131
It's not illegal to allude to where someone lives, just very immoral. You can say someone lives in Las Vegas and it'd be very legal as opposed to their address

>>70479750
>these dumbfucks are all still in their 20s. Their brains ain't done forming yet
please stop repeating this horseshit excuse for neuroscience, it's technically true but only in the sense that parts of your brain never stop developing, and everything that matters for ethics and decision-making is in place by the time you hit 20. it is absolutely not an excuse for 20something adults to act like retarded 12-year-olds.

>>70507200
>respond with a document that my lawyer and I have written.
She wrote the "document" you're talking about herself, moron. This was going to be a separate thing, and likely was her final statement telling people about the second attempt and to fuck off and not harass people.
Also holy shit, you really just don't even know how to timestamp properly in embeds? Jesus christ sister. Please at least learn basic 4chan etiquette before trying to "raid" again.

>>70507262
Not only will I tell you the time stamp again. I'll also send the video transcript.
>12:05

Now you have to cover your eyes and ears

>>70479750
Enna's 27 lmao she's plenty "mature" yet dumb

>>70505978
HR's job, officially, is to arbitrate internal trouble and ensure the company doesn't get sued. They are the first line of defense. The legal department is the second line. Once a lawyer has been involved, HR MUST pass it up the food chain. Arbitration with lawyers is above their paygrade. Note: This is not the same as saying that hiring a lawyer is evidence of an intent to sue. In fact, courts will slap the shit out of someone for claiming "X hiring a lawyer is proof of Y". It simply means that things have progressed beyond the point of being settled with he-said-she-said, which is all HR is good for.
Also it was never intended for management to see it. Legal teams see things. They advise the company they work for based on what they see and what they know. They do this WITHOUT disclosing the specifics of what they read. That's how it works.

>>70507331
Reminder that the sisters are people who would SERIOUSLY ask this question.

>>70507417
Prove that it was a separate document and not the document that got her fired

>>70476868
graduation is always an option

>>70507576
>my lawyer and i wrote up a document in case something like this did happen
this implies that the document she's talking about is a whole other paper that was only seeing the light of day IF she got fired
esl plz...

>>70507443
Now read Dokibird's follow-up tweet, you disingenuous fuck.

>>70507457
Except Selen said only lawyers were supposed to see it and not HR. Why would she write an HR complaint with the intention of HR never seeing it. No amount of filler information will make your argument make sense

>>70506970
>i would have to respond with the document that i and my lawyer have written up just in case something like this happened, because of that i guess i will releasing this document very soon,i prepared something just in case but i was going to keep it quiet and keep it private and because that has happened that means that i am now required to release my story and statement
you fucking retard, by document she is referencing to her statement and her side of story that she and her lawyer written up

>>70507576
...She wrote the document herself before ever seeing a lawyer, so how could he help her write the document that got her fired?

>>70507443
Oh I thought you had a timestamp in the link like a normal human being but no, it's just google tracker shit so it just sent me to the last place I was at when I watched it.
Anyway, if you watched the video you'd know it's clearly a fucking different document because she literally said it was illegal to share the other one with anyone outside of the consenting parties.
I know english is hard but you can do better. That goes for sharing links too.

>>70507663
Retard. It's the document she said was basically the diary she wrote. The lawyer obviously revised it before it was shown to Nijisanji lawyers. She says the document would release "her story". Don't reject reality

>>70507200
If you're the anon stating that Doki threatened to release the document at 12:05, I think you have your timestamp wrong or that you misheard or misunderstood what she said. Selen DID say she was going to release A document with her lawyer in case something like that would happen very soon, and not long after her Neopets stream she put out her final statement on the matter where she said she would NOT release any documents containing personal information or post any receipts.
>https://twitter.com/dokibird/status/1757763627413631383
Considering that Selen is Asian and probably immigrated to North America later on, it is likely that she fumbled her words on that part and meant to say "statement", she wouldn't be the only ESL member of NijiEN, and lord knows NijiEN has plenty of other ESLs as fans.

Even then, it doesn't make NijiEN nor Elira look any better. The fact that they were in contact with Selen's lawyer and thought
>Oh fuck, they know Elira/Millie/Enna's legal information, and they're threatening to go public with the document! FUCK IT, TERMINATE HER NOW, GET READY TO SLANDER HER SO SHE'LL NEVER BE SUCCESSFUL EVER AGAIN
makes them look like a bunch of drooling retards, because then they would have an actual case if their ex-talent was somehow encouraged by her actual lawyer to doxx her former coworkers.

i love my oshi

>>70507710
>she is referencing to her statement
She literally refers to the statement and her story as two different things. Learn to listen
>>70507743
She wrote the document with the intention of showing it to a lawyer. The lawyer obviously helped her make it more professional before showing it to Nijisanji.
>>70507775
The only documents that were illegal to show is her own medical history. She obviously is legally allowed to post her own information

>>70507681
I realize you are new to 4chan, but you might want to take note that that was my first post in this thread. New IP and all. Not everyone that replies to you is going to be the person you previously spoke to. I never said it was intended for the HR department. Although it should be pointed out that it's common for any complaint about workplace conditions to be called an "HR complaint", even if it is intended for Legal. Just an example of labels being applied in an overly-broad fashion, despite them being inaccurate. Kinda like how people call every adhesive bandage a band-aid. Language has been used and abused with definitions becoming broader and broader until they lose all meaning.

>>70506116
>>70507200
>>70507443
More like you are just imagining statements that never happened. She said, "I will have to respond with a document that my lawyer and I have written up. Just in case something like this did happened. I will have to release this document really soon." None of this says she was going to make public her first document with private information. She was going to response with a new document she prepared earlier in case Niji released her first document to non-lawyer people.

>>70507786
you retarded fuck the HR complaint and her side of story is 2 different things
>the HR complaint
is the things that got fired this is the document that has elira and co personal information
>her side of story
is the receipt she gather herself and not the one she send to the niji HR

>>70507786
She was talking about her version of "one girl's story".
Public statement with receipts. And surprise, you don't send public statements to company lawyers for contract dispute.
And something tells me that "document" would have enough shit to insta-kill the branch, she just chose not to.

>>70507984
>She literally refers to the statement and her story as two different things
yes she is you fuck and she is not referencing to the document that has elira and co personal information that she send to the niji HR

>>70507991
>She was going to response with a new document
Really? Where's the proof this new document exists? Why would she release a new document that has her "story" in it if she already has a document that serves that exact purpose on her? Why would Elira be concerned about her location being alluded to if Doki was never going to make the document public? The document being the original document she wrote just makes the most sense

>>70508154
39IQ has logged on

The same arguments again, it's pathetic sisters, take the L and move on already, even a piece of paper is worth more than your oshi at this point.

>sisters still parroting that she's releasing a document
>meanwhile she's just been comfy streaming again like she wanted
lol

>>70507984
>She wrote the document with the intention of showing it to a lawyer. The lawyer obviously helped her make it more professional before showing it to Nijisanji.
Yeah, here's what she ACTUALLY said.

>The document mentioned was at first made to document my thoughts and history with evidence so that my lawyer can see the general picture of what was going on, and if there were issues that should be addressed. It was first made during my darkest time mentally and I wrote everything on my mind little by little at that time. I made the document thinking that it was never going to be public to anyone but to my lawyer.
>
I requested that I just wanted to move on. Sometimes I didn’t hear anything for days from the lawyers on the other side and felt like I’d be alone and isolated for a long time. It made it so hard for me mentally. On Feb 5th, my lawyer discussed and said it will be best to show the document I wrote to the other lawyers as we have not heard from them for a week or any negotiation talks or given a meeting to discuss after my request to part. It was never intended to be used for anything else, I’ve asked my lawyer to convey that and have communication that the document as it was written wasn’t going to be released anywhere, and my lawyer did so when sending the document.
https://twitter.com/dokibird/status/1757763627413631383

You fucking child.

>>70492465
>>70503569
>>70504315
just do this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DO0cW-ckrQw

>>70508000
>HR complaint
You rrat is dying so you're sperging out. There is no HR complaint. Only lawsuit documents, medical history documents and the documents she wrote where she claims she was harassed and uses vox as evidence of favouritism. She changes terminology between receipts and documents because they obviously aren't the same thing. You don't need someone's address to file an HR complaint, only a name. The company obviously knows where their employees live. Stop believing retarded horse shit

>>70476868
>I was so hurt by all the hate online
Stopped reading there. Yeah, right.

>>70508321
>Yeah, here's what she ACTUALLY said.
>>70507443

'The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.'

How much is the piece of paper now? 4.5k? kek love to see it
>>70508266

>esl tries to make point by quoting doki incorrectly
>gets proven wrong
>tries to backpedal saying that she's lying anyway so it doesn't matter
kek SEA hours are real

>>70508154
>Why would Elira be concerned about her location being alluded to if Doki was never going to make the document public?
Maybe its because like Nijisanji's management, Elira is a fucking retard. Nijisanji EN's fanbase of fujos have essentially soft-doxxed her, and a lot of other people. Not in the sense of knowing their PL and what content they made prior to joining Nijisanji, doxxing in the sense of posting nonvtubing information like their faces, and in Zaion's case she got hard doxxed with NijiEN sisters even spamming her home address on Twitter the moment she got terminated. Fuck, even Vox Akoomer got harddoxxed by his own fanbase just by posting a plate of dry pasta.
Nothing really happened to make Elira "fear for her life" from NijiEN being formed to when Selen was terminated, so why would shit happen now like she claimed in her video? Did she really think a Canadian lawyer would encourage Selen to possibly commit a felony and release personal information online?
Fuck, what Elira did was so dumb it wouldn't surprise me if she thought Selen was threatening to release her social security details.

>>70476868
That is actually pretty damning

>>70508473
A statement written with the help of a lawyer will always trump a panicked message said under duress. Are you 12?

>>70508154
>Where's the proof this new document exists?
holy kek

>>70508358
i wrote it as HR complaint because i believe she send it there, if not there then where?
you guess it i never worked at company because why should i?

>>70508504
A cowardly anon avoiding direct confrontation. Where did I say she was lying? She never said she wasn't going to release it to the public, only that she didn't write it with the intention of anyone but lawyers seeing it. Obviously intentions change

As long as Elira and the clique are guiding the NDF, they'll continue their (piss-poor) attempts to take Doki down simply because she knows what they are and could reveal it at any moment - even if she's honestly expressed a desire to do her own thing.

They literally feel like the only choice now is between her death and her revenge - and we already know that there's no line for Niji sisters.

>>70508572
That sure flies in court. "Your honor, my client didn't have his lawyers present when he admitted to stealing". Nothing she says in her statement disproves that she was planning on releasing the document publicly anyway so it's not like it matters.
>>70508646
She sent it immediately to lawyers. The reason why is because it's not an HR issue and was a lawsuit issue

>>70508646
Maybe to the FUCKING LAWYERS AS QUOTED IN >>70508321
You fucking child. Corporations are not the fucking recess schoolyard. Timmy saying he'll bring proof his dad works at nintendo tomorrow is NOT the same as publicly stating that you received unfair treatment at a company, then being pushed into a panic attack by your abusers on stream, giving a CLEAR example of them harassing you, and you spazzing out that you'll tell everything. A smart lawyer would tell you to not fuck up and taint a potential trial and shut up, calm down, and then work to release a statement later, which they did.

Let's be real here. There wouldn't be this much confusion if ESL sisters understood that "document" has meanings outside of doxxing.

>>70508699
Judging from the amount of slop being shoveled around the board and here from them, that rings pretty true

>>70479750
Children have been convicted of cold blooded murder. You're brain is almost entirely done forming by your 20's. A small part of brain still growing at 20 y/o means literally means fucking nothing in real life.

>>70508808
>That sure flies in court. "Your honor, my client didn't have his lawyers present when he admitted to stealing". Nothing she says in her statement disproves that she was planning on releasing the document publicly anyway so it's not like it matters.
Yes, yes it literally does. Don't you know about tainted evidence? OJ Simpson was acquitted of fucking MURDER because of how the evidence was obtained. What happened here is a woman was bullied to the point of fearing for her life and career, and in a panic, said something that STILL doesn't support your claim "I will release a document written by me AND MY LAWYER."

>The reason why is because it's not an HR issue and was a lawsuit issue
Lawyers are used for more than lawsuit you clown.

>>70508808
>>70508815
fuck you oldfags i don't know alright, i thought you need to send it to the HR First then if the HR cant resolve that then you send it to the court
i keep it in mind tho in case i want to sue my future corpo

>>70508932
NTA but she did release a document. Written by her and her lawyer. On twitter. And it was professionally translated into Japanese. Sisters just don't consider it a document because it isn't on a white background.

>>70507786
Prove it's the same document, then. Because as far as we know, "her story" was the tweet about the second attempt and how badly Nijisanji's lawyers fucked up.

>>70505318
Hey I work in a workplace and can confirm it's not common for every one of your colleagues to independently shit on you after you've already been reprimanded by a superior for a mistake. In fact I just did one of those mandatory training things that explained how criticizing someone excessively like that can constitute workplace harassment.

>>70508932
>OJ Simpson was acquitted of fucking MURDER because of how the evidence was obtained.

The evidence wasn't him blatantly admitting to murder on camera. Also he didn't kill anyone, his son did.

>What happened here is a woman was bullied to the point of fearing for her life and career
Dramatic as fuck, all they did was release a video and tell her to stop shitting on her manager

>said something that STILL doesn't support your claim "I will release a document written by me AND MY LAWYER."

So you're arguing that her lawyer never told her to revise and edit the document before it was actually sent to fucking lawyers. Nice a good argument to make. No proof this new secret document exists either

>Lawyers are used for more than lawsuit you clown
Yeah but you don't send HR complaints directly to lawyers. Stop trying to deny reality

>>70509059
Prove a new document was made, no one else but you claimed it. Her "story" was the one she literally said she wrote up and showed it to her lawyer
>>70509130
She didn't just make a "mistake". She purposely broke the rules and threw her manager under the bus. They also never "independently shit on her". There was no excessive criticism, they told her that every time she shits on her manager, it effects the whole company and harms the work e>>70509059
nvironment

The most fun thing about it is that anything Doki does will hurt their ego without even trying to, it will make them seethe but can't even fight back because it will be worse for them, like the piece of paper, the memes writes themselves and only the clique has to deal with SC and viewership falling down a cliff.

Well this thread devolved quickly in another “nijisis play dumb and repeat the same nonsense like a broken radio.”
As of now i have found not a single line that proves she actually intended to fully go with a legal action, only to demand an immediate end of her contract that instead devolved in a smear attempt that backfired horribly, and uncovered past smear attempts too to the public.
Even in the schizo world she was gonna pursue legal action, this does absolutely not give the company or the livers the right to pursue a smear career and downplay the gravity of what happened going super defensive. Their action, corpo and livers, only brought what is commonly called “opening the door”, AKA basically admitting there is things to talk about.

Elira brought up Enna in this mess, not Doki. And now Enna goes into a room for 5 hours and makes the mother of all rambling of statements that suggests:
1) She feels guilty about something
2) We should question her character
3) There are questions to be asked
And this is just the mildest take on it. Livers are leaving breadcrumbs everywhere, it’s only natural asking what the bread is.

>>70478851
the fuck

>>70509504
Pretty much, no matter how much nonsensical spam they pour out, their reputation alongside Niji's got reamed by everyone and nothing can change that

>>70509448
You seem to have some pretty insightful knowledge of the situation none of us do, please tell us more, insider-chama.

>>70509526
We already had two lawyers reviewing Doki's case, even Sayu by the based boomer lawyer, so from the legal point everything was already addressed and talked about for like almost 40hrs of live streaming, there is nothing else to discuss anymore so you can safely ignore the NDF coping, they'll just keep repeating the same deflection from the first day of the shitshow moving goalpost when they get BTFO, which happens every single thread.

>>70509594
Better step away ten feet then, the info clogged their intestines and it'll be a tough job getting it out

>>70509208
>prove it's a new secret document
...What? She... She literally waited until the stream was over, consulted her lawyer, then released a large tweet that was even translated into japanese so that even you ESL neanderthals wouldn't be able to twist her words, and you STILL fucked it up. I'm not even mad anymore. I'm impressed.

>company does something to the point that calling a lawyer is viable
>why didn't she go to hr first?
lol
lmao
if i was at a company being taken advantage of and they fucked up big enough that a lawyer isn't turning me down when i go into his office, you bet your ass im grabbing a lawyer.
lawyers don't take cases just because you ask, they take them because there's actually a case to be made
t. knower

>>70509722
HR can be useful with disputes other employees, but if it's you against the company they are never going to be helpful to you. HR exists to benefit the company. Sisters are retarded, pretending to be retarded, or some combination of the two.

>>70509722
>HR is also there to protect the company, not you
>also the implication that kurosanji has an actual functioning HR

>>70477020
Source: Trust me bro. Dookifags assume because they're retards.

>>70476868
>>Seeing all the hate on the internet made me question if I am really a good person
>Question

>>70509638
I mean I was just leaving my take, I didn’t give them a (you) because they are a worse echo chamber than Enna’s chat, seething over how they are losing in every platform and now people are calling them out because they have become the prime source of dramafagging.
Let me remind you that one of them literally went “Enna is not the bully, Millie and Elira are” in this very discussion, stumbling over his own desperate defense and basically admitting the bullying.
Hlarious jobless monkeys attitude.

>>70509795
>HR can be useful with disputes other employees, but if it's you against the company they are never going to be helpful to you. HR exists to benefit the company. Sisters are retarded, pretending to be retarded, or some combination of the two.
I don't even know where they got the idea that it was a HR document to begin with. They somehow gaslit themselves into thinking that it was a HR complaint or a lawsuit, and couldn't possibly be anything else, like a contract negotiation, and that she would ever even consider releasing what's effectively a journal full of personal and identifying information. It's baffling how someone could be so confidently incorrect.

>>70509849
Why would they even make that? If Elira and Millie are being talked about, it's likely because of her sentence that clearly stated "Millie, Enna, and I."

Now that I think about it, there's one rrat that I really do wonder if its real now. Last week there were plenty of weird posts in threads discussing Finana's mistakes, and one of those posts suggested that NijiEN apparently has the bright idea of trying to get in touch with Selen so they can get both sides to appear on stream and admit that they both were at "partial fault" so everyone can move on. It's just a rrat and probably written by a shitposter or a wishful sister, but with how Enna is trying to downplay the whole thing as "just a grey area", I really wonder if there's some truth to it. That NijiEN's ego genuinely will not let them admit they were at fault, so they'll only apologize if the victim admits they were at "partial fault".

>>70508154
>Why would Elira be concerned about her location being alluded to if Doki was never going to make the document public?
Because Elira, like Nijisanji's management and (You) yourself, is fucking retarded. QED

>>70496357
Based knower, this is the best post in this thread.
If you haven't dealt with people like this irl you actually are unable to understand that some people are just like this, barely human. It sounds made up or exaggerated but some people are just vile animals and theres nothing that you can do to "redeem" them, they just won't learn

>>70476868
Why are SEA sisters and unikeks (read: beta males) still seething about Enna?

We already know she didnt do anything and hating unikeks/haters is a perfectly normal thing for every sane person.

>>70509953
There's like 30 organs so its more likely at least one tried to contact Doki than 0. Not that they're all against her but after what happened I wouldn't be surprised if she went completely 0 contact

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>>70505741
ABSOLUTELY SEETHING SISTERS!!!! Cry more. You fags call others niggers and fags but cry over Dooki getting bullied. Your morality is hypocritical and has no place here. Moralfags and Dookitards can fuck off and kill themselves like their trash oshi

>>70509980
https://youtu.be/PWVLyodOv1Y?t=9899

>>70510072
Sorry anon, but only literal females watch NijiEN at this rate.

>>70509836
>Hate
Ok I’m gonna get the bait even if it’s not one, what fucking hate?
All the hate is about the company, even on xer most of the post are “give us an answer”. Say something that is not the worse cover of “we are family” we ever heard. Don’t think people can’t see over your coping with the fact you went from barely being the 2nd company in the industry to go all out war with one of your ex-livers and repeatedly get beaten in every attempt to do so.
People have been left only with hate for the company and disappointment for their livers, and they continue the head in the ground strategy.
I would take my time to reflect outside my echo chamber and realize I’m on a boat one kick from falling, and the nijisis are gonna save Vox, not you when it sinks. Maybe it’s time to clean my act and try to be a better person because that voice is not gonna cut in any other industry once you become radioactive for this one.

>>70510072
You're place is the doxxsite, this one is ours. Don't pretend you actually belong here when you don't

>>70509594
My insider information is actually carefully pay attention to the black box video
>>70509710
A large tweet isn't a document, you belligerent subhuman. She herself makes the distinction between a statement and the document
>>70509722
>lawyers don't take cases just because you ask,
You're naive
>>70509960
The GURat is dumb and will never have evidence. The entire thing hinges on people making the retarded assumption that speaking Japanese makes you a manager

>>70509953
Oh yeah, I remember that one. It was the weird anon who kept screeching that Sayu and Doki were actually the ones who refuse to be contacted or respond, while a separate anon said a bit ago that they tried to have Doki release a joint statement where both would claim to be at fault lmfao. It sounds EXACTLY like the type of bullshit they'd do.
Another rrat I liked is that the main reason why they worked so hard to get Selen to say that she was the reason that the video was privated was so that they could use it in her termination notice that they were already working on. Them having a large termination notice all ready to go, then being blindsided by the fact that she actually had RECEIPTS that could fucking doom them in court resulted in them completely misunderstanding her document, hastily rewriting parts of the prewritten notice and shoving it out the door before she murdered them publicly. It would explain why it read like an emotional hit piece completely avoiding all blame, and made such a large deal out of the MV issue when allegedly they had her on her "last chance" back in like march or may. They had to cut all that extra fluff out and run with the MV angle despite her not admitting fault.

Reminder that NDF:
>Has never had an actual job in an office
>Has never attended a single court case
>Has never investigated legal process of any country
>Has never read a book
>Doesn't read their own posts
>Can't speak English at a 4th grade level
>Doesn't know how to debate
>Are frequently underage, either physically or mentally
>Do not have critical thinking skills
>Are typically phoneposters
>Cannot make inferences nor understand causality
>Actually tried to argue "Women lie (source: I am a woman), so Doki is a liar" to a lawyer on his own stream
>Are using a self-diagnosis in a twitter bio that was previously deleted as their sole evidence that Doki has BPD
>Don't even know what BPD stands for, and cannot identify a single common symptom that Doki exhibits of it
>Don't know that BPD is heavily reliant on managing outside stressors, and a BPD-incited incident would in fact be legally blamed on anything that was giving her undue stress
>Will not respond to any post that has a sound, inassailable, or logically-airtight argument, and will instead cherrypick posts that make minor mistakes, or invent strawmen to tear down instead in the absence of such mistakes.
>Will lie and misrepresent facts that are provable by their own sources just to pretend they got a victory
>Made a hitlist and then tried to pretend Doki herself made the hitlist as a falseflag, even though multiple known Niji-supporters were found circulating the list on Twitter, and the Twitter account of the original poster of the hitlist was deleted shortly after knowledge of the list became common.
>Have been harassing Sayu the last 3 weeks.
>Likely include NijiEN members themselves, walking among anons to defend or deflect from their own actions.
>Primarly are invaders from the doxsite, because they got kicked out of this place ages ago
>Have previously resorted to posting tits pulled from other boards (that they pretended were theirs) to distract anons, then mass-reporting the thread said tits were posted in, and only stopped because anons got wise to the scheme.
>Have admitted to thinking that Doki having a Silver Youtube Button is, by itself, Doki throwing shade at NijiEN.
>Won't read this post, or will fall for a crack in an argument that I intentionally set up as bait earlier in this post, and immediately reply to it without reading the rest, including this line indicating that it's a bait.
>Haven't read most of the thread
>Scan the archives for mentions of NijiEN and reply aggressively to all of them.
>Self-bump their own threads when people stop taking their bait, just a link to the OP.
>Will ALWAYS ensure a Niji thread either gets mass-reported or goes to bump limit.

>>70508154
>Where's the proof this new document exists
Well the fact that that "doxx" document never went public should be proof enough no?
Nijisanji were the only source from which we even knew that document and what is in it exist, so that seems like conclusive evidence enough that she never planned to release it in that state and that nijisanji and its livers either: 1) panicked insanely hard because they are all incompetent; or 2) are straight up malicious and understood that she never would release that but wanted to paint a picture that selen was the bully.
Neither of those is a good image, especially when so far selen has played it perfectly so far (despite being a retard) and nijien has routinely shot themselves on the foot. Nijien has unironically implied and implixated themselves and their livers as bullies and incompetents more times than selen has as they desperately scramble to defend themselves, its ridiculous

To all the Nijisisters: was it worth it to hate idol culture so much? That's the whole reason you backed this horse, right?

>>70510072
>sisters
>moralfags
It's really fascinating how you're so uncannily incapable of not making yourself look immoral in your posts.

>>70510188
Apparently you didn't pay enough attention to actually gain real information out of it. Because you've just been pulling shit out of your ass and trying to convince us "Dookiebird is totally wrong look how Vox's sweet voice said she wasn't harassed." while actually ignoring anything explicitly stated by either side.

>>70510188
>You're naive
and you literally don't know what you're talking about. a lawyer loses money by taking a losing case even if they're being paid for their time.

>>70510188
>she makes a distinction between a statement and a document
She also makes a very clear distinction between something SHE wrote and something she and her lawyers wrote. A document can be posted on twitter via text entry. It doesn't need the white background, you know.

>>70510137
>Doxxsite
This place isn't yours. Fuck off faggot tourist
>>70510286
Cope harder sister fag
>>70510379
Called anyone a nigger faggot today anon? Fuck you moral fag. Fuck Dooki
>>70510381
Dookiturd fans assume

>>70510505
Cope

>>70510505
She's seething so hard she can't even remember the right slurs to use.

>>70510505
Seething lol

>>70510505
Vermin hands typed this

>>70510505
Post tits sister

>>70510505
seethe and age ugly you vile bitch ^^
this is your life now for many months to come :)

>>70510505
You're stuck here sister

>>70510505
spectacular flailing of seethe words

>>70509953
Clique could convince one of the unrelated organs to try to talk to Doki and try to make her feel bad, because no sane corpo would try to talk to a terminated employee and make her do a statement admitting fault (it sounds even more retarded as I'm typing it).

>>70510892
Allegedly she went radio-silent to them, clever girl. (Finana larper was funny).

>>70510505
Sister's worst nightmare.

>>70476868
I don't even like Enna. In fact, I hate her as a pure unicorn for her harm to vtubing. I still wouldn't target her for harassment in this frivolous manner on account of a different Chinese whore who fakes suicide to farm donations. You all fucking disgust me. I've been given 3 day bans for implying similar things about whores like Pipkin Pippa. Mods are complicit. Fuck you all, lying dishonest cunts.

>>70510505
kek. fucking roaches, go back to Nina's page and upvote your own comment

>>70511041
She was pretty clear on the "I'm done with this" statement, twice even, so the larper was just having fun with the anons.

Since the NDF is here, let's start posting their cryptonite, i'm going first:

>>70511151
Her being done doesn't mean niji got the memo (they're not very bright, ok?). And thinking that larper was actually Finana is hella funny, so I'll do just that for now.

>>70510328
>Well the fact that that "doxx" document never went public should be proof enough no?
No document went public so there is no proof that the document was a "new document". Nijisanji talking about the document isn't proof she was never going to release it either. Stop making shit up to try making everything Doki does look good if you actually believe she isn't lying

>>70510381
No argument
>>70510463
She never made a distinction between documents she wrote and her lawyer wrote. The statement is clearly not a document, it isn't even in document form. Stop coping

>>70511195
Next:

>>70510892
It makes more sense from the gurrat angle, where they're completely isolated from the main branch and have no fucking clue what they're doing.

>>70511285
>document form
>document form
>document form
>document form

>>70492465
My bros and I are planning some autistic levels of sabotage for this event it's going to be fucking kino and we'll post the damage live

So no one provided any timestamps of Enna saying any of this?

>>70511352
Stop spamming, retard . You repeating the same shit over and over doesn't make it right. There's a clear difference between a tweet and a document. The tweet is the statement, the document is what she wrote then her lawyer revised. The tweets obviously aren't "documents" , you look stupid

>>70480794
>Anon, have you ever met someone like Enna? I have. They don’t become better people because they’re not really people in the first place. They’re more like insects, or aliens maybe. Any and every emotion they have is a hollow facsimile, and the only purpose they have in life is to harm whoever they can harm. I’m pretty sure that ye olde stories of demons and malevolent spirits came from people who encountered Emma’s ilk.

>>70511308
It could be a new rrat since they could be desperate enough to try something dumb as that since they're bleeding money hard right now, an apology wouldn't do much and kurosanji won't let them do it, can't fight back either since it would only add more gas to the fire, they're out of cards to play atm, they're going downhill with no brakes.

>>70511474
>>70480794
https://youtu.be/kY3QDN_nRg4?si=SCTAAsFzxM8T4fci

>>70510403
No they don't. They get paid either way, their reputation lowers though. Why would a lawyer have to pay the court because they lost a lawsuit and not the person suing?

>>70477015

>>70511308
>gurrat
I miss those threads, they were top weaponized autism.
What are the chances that ESL part-time managers are provided exclusively to fresh waves, with the "liaison" supervising them? And the older waves don't get any since they already supposedly know everything. Paints Selen getting denied "the assistant" in a new light, she may have wanted actual manager.

>>70511667
do you think lawyers just show up and say words with no processes or work in between the case? im going to cut my replies off here because you literally have zero clue what you're talking about

sisters don't look....

>>70509953
That's how Gundou graduated, iirc. Her final stream was a corporate-mandated apology video for her baseball tweet.

If that's similar to how Selen's absence played, I can imagine negotiations were deliberating how Selen would bow out, with Anycolor leaning on the termination side, since apparently they were able to upload that three page document a mere two hours after Selen's lawyer submitted her document after Anycolor's team ghosted them for a week.

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>>70478443
>black company
>its member's most hated color is white
KINO

>>70511880
Wow, I didn't know the person who hired them wasn't paying the majority of that plus more. Oh wait, they do and they make a profit out of it. Does your dumbass actually think lawyers only make money if they win? Winning is a bonus

>>70511887
Congratulations. Dokidrones are willing to spend 4,000 dollars on a blank piece of paper. And you think this is some kind of thing to be proud about

>>70512081
Moot point, since it's going to a good cause.

>>70511071
>self-confessed unicorn
Opinion duly discarded. I always knew you faggots had just as few scruples as Nijisisters.

>>70512199
Then why wouldn't they just donate the money instead of using it to buy a piece of paper? Why are people using it to brag if it's just a glorified charity donation? Are Doki's fan really the type to brag about donating to charity?

>>70509886
>contract negotiation
>It's baffling how someone could be so confidently incorrect
It is indeed baffling that someone could resort to the cope of "she was negotiating a contract" when she already had explicit plans for going indie.

>>70512704
>Are Doki's fan really the type to brag about donating to charity?
If it means mogging 3-4view Livers. Very bizarre sense of principles to be drawing the line in the sand on when the opposing team does this:
>>70510286

>>70512709
She planned on graduating but she wanted to have a planned graduation stream. She said she wanted a proper goodbye to her audience herself. She was negotiating against her suspension/ termination and used the lawsuit as a last resort to get out of making the statement clearing her manager's name while being able to have her graduation streams and events

>>70512911
>If it means mogging 3-4view Livers
You "mogged" streams that were free to watch and only had donations. The equivalent of bragging about how much more money you gave to charity than how much a singer gets after they perform a free concert.
>when the opposing team
Childish

hey livers where are the streams? half the branch is dead. and don't give me the "they're in japan"i know anycolor got streaming pcs at their offices just for this

>>70512911
>>70513037
How about mogging 10 livers at once in prime time?