/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>70421871
are they hiring groomer managers? i've got 3 years of experience and i'm willing to work on weekends

>>70422494
They have 0 managers and they aren't looking for more

>Retweeted by Peaches
Is she /in/

Inks will save /whorpo/

>>70422703
Website says there's optional talent managers

Still hoping one of them can pole dance or just dance in general.

>>70428197
That's a bit ambitious for a corpo that discourages 3d content

>>70421871
vibrator karaoke streams

>>70421871
Good luck Riifu. I really hope you get some decent, non-menhera vtubers that wont quit on you a month in.

>>70431298
IIRC she said if someone does end up doing basically what she did then they would just fill the model with someone else instead.

>>70432177
Not sure if that will be a good idea but I guess its better to risk than to lose the model money.

Good luck pomu.
hope to see you soon

>>70428066
Oh I'll be sure to manage those talents huehuehue...

>>70432360
I'm in two minds about it. While I get not wanting to waste all the money the girl who would fill that spot would need to be better than the last or it could end up with two girls leaving. Hope it never comes to that but a small part of me wants to see it happen and watch how it turns out because as far as I know I havent seen a corpo do that before.

>>70432177
>they would just fill the model with someone else instead.
Because that worked beautifully in the past (Kizuna Ai).
Baka.

Damn, looking through the twitter I am actually surprised at the amount of girls showing interest. Also just realized that this is perfect for those girls who VA for hentai animations. Theres a bunch of them with good voices and this is a chance to get into vtubing and earn more money. Hopefully good ones get in.

>>70428283
full mocap pole dance

>>70432678
The biggest issue in doing that is always the people not accepting a new girl voicing the model. Though this is a coomer corp for coomers so maybe most wont care about that. I wouldnt, as long as the new girl do her job and make me coom.

>>70432381
I love mummeh, and I love the nerd, but I really don't think they should be under the same banner

Vshojo killer.

>>70421871
success or doa?

post yfw Sana redebuts here

>>70434890
if they can get someone as good as Mare, but english speaking, then they'll get all my lifesavings

>>70432835
Unironically, there are a lot of Twitch thots on... Twitch

>>70421871
what's the point of joining a corpo that is so hands off it's like you're an indie anyway?

>>70435657
Hands off in what way? >>70428066 Sounds like more support you'll get as a small indie.

>>70435657
As an indie you are by yourself. In a corp you got managers to deal with everything for you, all you need is to stream and do whatever they ask you to for merch. Not to mention that indies stay 2views forever, while in a corp they have more chance to grow.

Please for the love of god just make sure to pick talents that aren't squeamish about loli stuff for the smallest two models

>>70421871
who

Bratty cunny plz plz plz plz

>>70421871
I look forward to seeing the cunnytuber get cancelled on twitter and trannys seething at how problematic she is. Here's hoping whoever gets picked for that model double downs afterwards and goes extra hard on the lewdness.

>>70435997
I barfed a little, thanks

Her latest asmr is nice, feels like the ceo giving you sloppy toppy

>>70432773
Actually we talked to her about this in great detail.
Basically the conclusion she came to was that if the talent was around for months+ or years she would NOT get skinwalkers because the fans would be attached to the "pilot" but a month or less then she would greatly consider it.

>>70435657
Why do you never go on the website to read?
I will spoonfeed you, open up.
This isn't including the fact that there will be a lot more eyes at the get go that someone starting off as an indie with zero viewers. It's a practical guarantee of some viewership and ccv.
That and as an indie you have to pay for all of your own shit to stream on and no one to mentor you on how to do things or what to do and what not to do.
Honestly, it's like an apprenticeship where they pay for all your tools and let you use the equipment instead of starting with a lemonade stand.

Sex with whores!

>>70435997
Are you sure you should be including Friendly german in this image?

I LOVE YOU WHORES

>>70446322
A lot of people advised her against this, and she doesn't usually disregard it, but it just looks like she might end up doing it in the worst of cases. We'll just have to wait and see what happens then. If it goes wrong, plenty of people warned her.
But I do prefer to be more positive and hope that none of them quickly graduate in the first place!

>>70450150
I trust mommeh

What are they going to be like? (Blessed scenarios only)
>Pins completely embraces the uohs, calls chat her big brothers
>Cubes a smug kusogaki baiting her fans into correcting her, loves and identifies with "bratty child! correction needed!"
>Ropes bdsm mistress with tsuntsun kayfabe, calls her viewers a lot of names and appeals to the masochists
>Milks is literally just Fauna, loves the lactation kink, will give you nursing handjobs and gently mommydom you

>>70451399
If we're talking ideal world here, I'm desperate for a JP/EN bilingual avtuber. Imagine if we not only get a mesugaki but she can do the full zako act in Japanese too.

>>70446675
i don't think they'd accept an indie with 0 viewers.

>>70452823
I think it's going to be a detriment to your audition, but I also think that view count isn't going to be the only measure of their interest in you.

>>70428066
>talent managers optional
How long till a clique develops?

>>70453367
without multiple gens it's going to be a little hard to do that, no?

>>70421871
So femanons, will you apply?

>>70451399
you forgot stabs

>>70454383
I was drawing blanks for her. What are your hopes and fears for Stabs, anon?

>>70393537
Can pomf even handle the traffic?

>>70453462
Not really. Cliques can form within the same gen too

>>70450557
this is cringe as hell

>>70432395
>level 99 rape master.jpg

>>70458287
you had to be there

>>70451399
Yeah, we're mostly on the same page here. I might be seeing patterns where there are none but I think left side on picrel is supposed to be maso personas and right side on the sado spectrum of personas.
>Cubes
The quote is pretty obviously going for the gaki archetype (be it mesu/kuso or some other, less common variant) and she seems like a feral animal girl which only reinforces that perception. Bratty S loli.
>Pins
The other loli, foil to Cubes, the silhouette is even showing the pins from her codename. Bigass skirt, boots, accessories or some equipment on the leg, torso also clearly has some kind of big jacket or something, lots of fashion stuff. She might be going for like city fashion or maybe even sci-fi inspired, something mechanical or at least human-made to contrast with Cubes' feral inspiration. Pins stabbed in the head scream submissive M.
>Ropes
Codename and quote reference shibari, I hope you can see a few knots peeking out here and there and then she has a toggle with most of the clothes off that reveals elaborate rope patterns. Tied up, so an M fetish.
>Milks
Cow (?) horns, you're on the money exactly, I expect her to have huge milkers and lean into them. S, not in a mean or domineering way but in the gentle femdom sense.
>Stabs
Obviously painslut from the quote alone, you can also see scissors stabbed in her hair, possibly head. Outside of that I am also finding it hard to come up with much else. Nonetheless, M fetish inspiration.
>Inks
Inks makes me think tattoos, she also is one of the only two (I think) without shoes and has anklets so I'm thinking a tribal inspiration. Kinda like what I said for Ropes I'd like her to have tribal patterns here and there and a toggle to shed more of her already scarce scraps of clothes (like I said, tribal inspiration) and reveal a sexy womb tattoo. We know she's the maman of this whorehouse so a dominant leadership personality makes all the more sense for her, hard S.

Very curious how on or off the mark I am going to turn out to be. The only thing I can't figure out is what Cubes' codename is supposed to reference, all the other ones instantly made sense to me and I could immediately make associations with the silhouettes and the quote snippets, but Cubes is the only one that baffles me. It's a stretch but the only thing I can think of is that maybe she will have a backstory of having been restrained in a cage, which is a cube of sorts, and escaping.
>>70455836
They upgraded their infrastructure over the past year, it wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility. But I don't think VAllure is gonna be interested in streaming there either way.

>>70458820
A lot of your considerations of the silhouettes are very illuminating. The boss emphasized that Pins is the most controversial one they have, and I kept wondering about it and getting hung up on loli siscon. I didn't think about the pins enough. Knowing that the boss quite likes Shondo I can see her making one herself. It is controversial, a maso loli.
Other things we already know from what she told us. Milks is tied to a lactation theme according to her, and she would like someone who at the very least won't mind it.
Finally I'm afraid some of your assumptions contradict some things Inky said in the past. We know that Ropes was initially going to be a friend of hers, who's S, and that as a result Ropes is somewhat of a domina kind of character; so a bondage theme is implied, but rather not a self-bondage theme.

>>70450557
Cute...

>>70459801
Yeah, I didn't know all that backstage information. I happened across the announcement here in January but didn't pay that much attention because because there was so little information and the debuts were so far away (which they still are, to be fair). I saw the thread yesterday and it caught my interest so I'm just going off the information in that thread and on the website, I didn't follow Inks' past life.
It's fun to speculate with limited information but I understand it can also lead to assumptions that are wildly off, that's what I meant with "seeing patterns where there are none."
I still think Cubes and Pins are supposed to be foils to each other as the two lolis of the gen but extending it to everyone else was probably misleading and you can justify the opposite reading of the characters with minor adjustments, like what you mentioned about Ropes.

>>70461103
For everyone besides Ropes I don't think we know anything that contradicts your predictions. One more thing that irks me is that it really looks like Pins and Stabs are too similar in all but you know what respect.

>>70458820
These all look like they share the same ugly western anime style.

>>70462170
I think those were early concept art or something? But yeah that's a concern. They better not look like this.

>>70461980
Well, the huge ribbon around Stabs' waist gives me an impression that she will have an elegant traditional dress or something in that vein, while like I said I think Pins is going to be more modern or even futuristic.
Obviously it's all speculation again but if I'm right on those vibes, I think that would distinguish them well enough once we see the full designs.

>>70421871
If Im not mistaken they aren’t going to do what emoechi does and they’ll go the Melody route which is boring imo.

>>70462325
There is no way she blunders on the art style. That would be an incredible feat of incompetence.

>>70462170
>western
>anime
anon?

I don't care whether they're good or not, /whorpo/ is an amazing general tag.

>>70465069
I mean a western artist tried to draw an anime styled character. Many indie vtubers have this style. Think of it as an extension of those "how to draw anime" books from 20 or so years ago.

https://files.catbox.moe/aykuio.mp3
Riifu my beloved

>>70465896
Don't do this to me man.... I was just getting out of the gosling era...

>>70465896
With material like this, we might just make it

>skitty did the voiceover for the audition video
she's /in/, isn't she?

>>70458287
You wouldn't get it.
>>70452823
If you're perfect for the role, you'll get it.
The view count doesn't matter, experience does though.
It's more likely to have a correlation with experience and viewers sure.

>>70469656
Undecided tbdesu. Some say it means shes 100% /in/, others say that it means that she definitely ISNT because it would look like a nepo hire since the auditions just opened

>>70469656
I hope so, but it doesn't seem likely

>>70466599

>>70469656
I would assume gen 2, she'd probably be pre-selected since mommeh seems fine with scouting too

>>70472366
Could also have been hired as an audio editor/producer

>>70432835
Lewd ASMR can get very big numbers. Being a lewdtuber with corp support could seem appealing.

>>70458820
I think cubes is a polar bear girl, so cubes as in ice cubes

I hope theyre smart enough to just ignore these questions

>>70474013
Riifu is and so are the Riiflings.

>>70474013
The last time she addressed it in a q&a stream she found really nice and pc words to effectively say
>We have no confidence to succeed with you
>We aren't prepared to tardwrangle you

>>70421871

>>70474013
>Riifu
>Smart

>>70458820
inks is tentacle kink

>>70458820
I think recall Inks saying she change her breast size. An interesting detail.

>>70483657
Good idea for next question. What toggles would you wish for on them? I have an incredibly intense foot fetish, so I'm obviously hoping for feet on table-assets somewhere down the line. The boss also retweeted a couple of lewd vtuber assets/toggles before, so I wonder if we're really going to see some of them (they were technically not inappropriate for youtube iirc)

>>70486091
VTube Studio has hand tracking. Some japs were memeing on twitter when it first came out using the hand tracking for jerking motions, but I don't think any avtubers actually ever used it. Any JOI support toggle would be epic, like pic rel.

>>70421871
qrd

>>70490992
western AVtubers headed by one of the best sluts on the internet

>>70491132
>best
She's good, but she isn't that good

>>70493200
who is better
asking for a friend

>>70493227
She's right there

>>70491132
Not even talking about her porn. Riifu was some of the best two months in vtubing period.

>>70493822
meant for >>70493200

>>70458820
>stabs you
hehe sorry sorry

Inshallah Mommeh will send them all to slut school and make Whorolive

>>70493822
so good that she got herself fired after 2 months

>>70497319
that didn't happen

>>70498408
Quite literally what happened

>>70498614
Uh oh! Retard Alert! You forgot there are people here who were actually there at the time! She quit!
>we received an email from Riifu's lawyer regarding an immediate termination of her contract, as well as stating that further communication will only be made through her lawyer.
>https://twitter.com/EIENproj/status/1665516473794822145

>>70498938
>I didn't get fired
>I quit!
You're only fooling yourself

>>70499105
just do your reps at this point, this is embarrassing

>>70499154
She got fired because she was being a retard about the steam shit and because she wanted to fleshpost without Eri's knowledge. Actually do your reps

I am looking forward to the shit posting that will be unleashed upon debut

>>70499248
Nta but both Eien and Riifu agreed she quit. Your being dumb or baiting

>>70499478
That's called a graduation. This is a mutual firing

>>70499248
Someone didn't even read the document I already linked to. You can't even eat right when the spoon is brought right to your mouth. Here comes the airplane again! Can my little Potty Princess guess the sentence immediately preceding the one I already quoted?
>This was a normal interaction as the current relationship with the Talent at the time was assumed to be on good terms.
Do you think Eri is lying when she writes that? Try big girl words now.

>>70499793
>Mfw breaching the contract I singed means that we're on good terms
Yes, you retard. She is indeed lying

No one is this retarded

Kinda sad that 99% of people probably did not watch the stream where she went over her side of events and posting it here is a gray area.
>TL;DW, EIEN is a black corpo and did not pay what they owed her

>what everyone involved agrees on isn't true, because otherwise it doesn't fit into my fan fiction

>>70500338
I like Riifu, but saying that they "owe" her any money after a contract breach is just wrong

>>70493822
What's up with small corpos and fucking themselves over?
Cyberlive, Kawaii, Tsunderia, EIEN project, and more all have one thing in common. They end up with either talent or entire gen that finally gets them some success, only to fuck up and have them leave a few months later.

I really don't get it, if I were a corpo CEO I'd bend over backwards to try and accommodate these people rapidly growing my stagnant company, even if they're hard to work with.

>>70500338
It's more likely to be the case that she told them to keep the damn money in order for them to just part ways asap. She pointed out it was a lot of dosh but never even insinuated she was (or even should have been) entitled to that money.

>>70500627
I don't think EIEN is applicable here when Kilia was always their biggest talent

>>70500820
Riifu was up until the point she left. At least in subs and ccv. I don't know how many donations Kilia used to get, but Riifu had some whales at least.

>>70500820
Riifu was definitely the biggest talent in gen 1 before she left. Also had the most dedicated fanbase.

>>70500627
>I were a corpo CEO I'd bend over backwards to try and accommodate these people
Kawaii did, the menhera won anyway

>>70501023
She made /eien/ one of the fastest generals on the board for a while. Obviously this was due to her pandering to us though. Still, it got to the point where /riifu/ split was discussed and I think I remember her saying she would like anons to stop talking about her when genmates are live.

>>70501445
Didnt they also have a huge discord parasocial circle?
biggest reason I couldnt stand going into the /eien/ thread back then was because all they did was bitch about their discord cliques

>>70501567
yes the EIEN server was full of groomers

>>70500996
>subs
Kilia was still bigger back then. Their ccv was the same too

>>70501098
That's the worst example, too.
Kawaii gen 3 was their first real smash hit in 2 years of existing. Gen 3 had a huge fanbase, numbers, and brought tons of new people into kawaii as a whole. I unironically think they would be competing head to head with Phase Connect today if they stayed around.

But instead they let an entire gen of hard hitting people just up and leave one day, and they haven't been the same since. How do you crew up that badly.

>>70501567
>Past tense
Anon...

>>70501834
well obviously I left so idk wtf theyre still doing

>>70501685
I don't think so. I am sure there are many number monkeys out there who know this stuff way better than I do, so I could see myself being proven wrong, but at least according to these stats, on the 23rd of April (couple of days before Riifu quit) Riifu was barely ahead in subs. I'd call a difference of less than 1k even though. 800 subs doesn't matter to me. But the views were twice as many as Kilia's.
>https://socialblade.com/youtube/channel/UCkPnZpEMpanyTYdNPEJwY-Q/monthly
>https://socialblade.com/youtube/channel/UCi6q0z8N1NNYgWPsM1OK25Q/monthly
I don't think numbers really matter that much anyways though. It's just odd since this is the first time I've ever seen someone claim this.

>>70501567
Yeah. Eien has an official discord to this day, and since it was opened some time after gen 1 debuts nothing but trouble came out of it (as anons predicted too!).
Riifu's discord groomers turned into huge antis though, because she kind of "didn't choose them" in favor of /eien/.

>>70501982
>But the views
Anon, shorts views are worthless in every possible metric. And yes their ccv was pretty much the same. Riiflings really overestimate how much of an impact she made when Kilia was doing just as well the entire time

>>70502428
That's fair enough.

>>70502188
STILL around?
Cant imagine what thats like as things are getting rusty (I wont say burning down because I think they might still be doing alright?) around them
I was honestly just always surprised at how normalized the discord culture was on this board just in the /eien/ thread

>>70501982
>Riifu was barely ahead in subs
You're not accounting for the forced breaks. Riifu lost a lot of momentum by not being allowed to stream.

>>70421871
Did anyone see she privated her twitter?

>>70502570
>still around
The riifu ones moved on. There's new thread celebrities now

>>70502570
I agree that it was incredibly annoying to always have discord brought up. And not even just what the talents are posting, but just random retards. This is just my personal impression, but I think it was mostly due to one lolcow and a board celebrities presence on that discord that made /eien/ bring it up so much.
>they might still be doing alright?
They absolutely are. I love Riifu but there's no point in tribalfagging against them. After Riifu walking out, and after the numerous Kiki yabs, nothing bad happened and eien just kind of stabilized. Meanwhile it's the other small corpos exploding everywhere around them kek
>>70502573
I guess I can see that, but we're starting to split hairs and anon is honestly right that I overestimated the difference between the two, especially for subs in April.

>>70501567
I recall that thread discussing retarded discord shit all the time.
Thankfully she said there's not going to be an official VAllure discord and talents aren't allowed to post in community ones as themselves. So hopefully that makes the VAllure threads less shit.

>>70503279
It really shows that the negative experiences made with the eien discord have informed that decision, or at least contributed to it a lot.
>talents aren't allowed to post in community ones as themselves
she also said that ultimately she won't be able to stop groomcords if talents fall into it. Which is just true, but I still kind of wish she wouldn't have acknowledged that fact lest she gives them the idea. I really hope the chuubas will be professional and avoid groomshit/favoritism. She does lead with good example imo, but I also understand people who say she pandered to /vt/ too hard.

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>>70470216
But Riifu was already prepared to nepo in a friend. With that friend backing out, there's a model free that originally would be nepo'ed out...

>>70507324
the website and audition form refer to Ropes as a character that can be auditioned for. If someone close to her ends up in the role now there will be accusations of nepotism but to be desu there's no reason to care about complaints due to what you said

I want to apply because I’m desperate but I’m also unironically a virgin. I would be ok with doing lewd asmr, as I already do asmr but I’m not sure if I could be doing umm super super lewd stuff while live because it’s embarrassing. Should I just not bother? Also no I’m not posting tits.

>>70508588
>unironically a virgin
This is probably the only place where that hurts you rather than helps lol, experience goes a long way in creating a good erotic ASMR.

I'd give it a shot and apply anyway, who knows they might be flexible and let you do more softcore stuff.

>>70421871
watch Masquerade instead unless you're poor

>>70486091
S tubers could use animations for hitting and stepping on things

>>70508588
She's only talked about doing pre-recorded lewd audios, so you may get away without doing it live. But I think they will expect you to do dirty talk, JOI, and moans in those audios. If that's what you count as "super super lewd". The creator did talk about working with talents and their boundaries though. So I would give it a shot anyways, and if you do get to the next stage bring up that concern in the interview.
I don't think being a virgin would hurt you either, could even be a selling point to viewers.

>>70421871
This'll collapse in a few months when someone goes "oops no money to pay talents" and everyone disappears

>>70507324
Like the other anon said that character is listed as available. I don't get why she would only list inks as pre-selected, if Ropes is too.
I'm pretty sure she's just not joining DESU, unless she's going to audition. But being close enough to voice in a trailer but not be hired on the spot, seems dumb.

>>70458820
>They upgraded their infrastructure over the past year, it wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility.
Cool! Someone should tell Riifu about Pomf. I mean where else would it be fine to do lewd streams? If lewd streams is not part of the requirement she really should think that over. I know some vtubers that do POMF streams to masturbate live and honestly its better when its live, instead of just recordings.

>>70514171
>I know some vtubers that do POMF streams to masturbate live
Recs?

>>70493822
I keep finding myself defending Riifu because people really dont get how fun she was even without the coomer stuff.
Her 8h+ whatever long daily streams were so fucking fun and comfy. Easily some of the best times I've spent watching a vtuber. And that girl was genuinely a nice person, reminding us to hydrate and stretching. Thanks to her I never forgot to get off my chair and stretch. Also the late night talks we had in prechat were nice too. The coomer stuff was just a big bonus. I can only imagine how more fun we could have had if she never graduated. Btw I say this when I wasnt even in love with her, I just really liked her as a person.

>>70508588
>but I’m also unironically a virgin
And thats a good thing. You gotta lose your shame of doing lewd stuff though. If you enjoy doing it and can at least record lewd content then you have a chance. Honestly this is probably the best you will have that isnt straight up making a OnlyFans account to show your real body. Theres no other western vtuber group that does lewd shit so I bet these girls will have a lot of paypigs.

>>70508588
Virgin women will be taken to the fucktorium where Dirty Dan will teach them how to please men while Sleezy Sally will show them how to please women.

>>70458820
>Spoilers the charaters/models I guess.
I just realised the debut teasers bgs match the hearts she's been posting on twitter, so I think they might be representing the main colour of the model.
>Stabs
I think she's a voodoo doll loli, little sister type, is going to be orange. Represented by the incense, pumpkin emoji, and Orange heart.
>Robes
BDSM/Bondage, Milf, in a bunny suit, is going to be red. Represented by the tied up carrots, rabbit emoji and Red heart.
>Cubes
Is a smug polar bear, loli but more like young teen, likes using her hips, going to be blue. Represented by the ice cube image/emoji and blue heart.
>Stabs
A yandere normal body type, is going to be purple. Represented by the knife image/emoji and purple heart.
>Milkes
Is a goat, huge titty Milf, constantly lactating, is going to be blue. Represented by the Goat milk, Goat emoji and white heart.
>Inks
A cuddlefish, normal body type, purple/blue colour, is y'know who. Represented by the cuddlefish, Squid emoji, the larger foot image, and those blue lines being her fanbase/Mascot's butt.

>>70458820
Pins, Cubes and Inks are right up my alley. Will watch for sure.
Milks seems to have chubby legs, which I like. Probably not gonna have chubby belly but if she does then I kneel. With fat tits that would be pure sex.
Ropes is too tall for my taste but if she roleplays as cocky ojousama baiting correction then I would be interested.
Stabs is the only one I dont have any opinion on yet. If she is also a loli then thats great.

>>70508588
Your tits won't help you anyway, post a lewd audio sample. However lewd you can stand right now, you can ease yourself into it and see if it gets more or less embarrassing as you try it.

>>70421871
I hope the models are good

>>70428066
>optional
Oh no