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70387961 No.70387961 [Reply] [Original]

So nice of Doki to collab with small indie vtubers. She really gives back to the indie vtuber community.

>> No.70388060
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Caca dookie.

>> No.70388153
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It is now Day 18 of the 3 day special operation against Dokibird

>> No.70388156

>>70387961
The most helpful indie

>> No.70388166

>>70387961
You mean like that slime girl she collabed with for palworld?

>> No.70388229

>>70387961
Yeah, those two dudes she played helldivers with haven't streamed in months before her. It's good to see her getting people like that to come out of their shell.

>> No.70388308

>>70387961
Yeah, I especially love her:
>"I'm just a small indie vtuber hahaha why would any company want to work with me?"
Meanwhile all the 0-2 ccv indie chubbas sitting there actually getting no support.

>> No.70388410

>>70388308
They should fake a suicide to boost their numbers. Amateurs.

>> No.70388549

>>70388308
if you only have 0-2 ccv, you should not stream lol. It's better to build you fans from something else then streaming than streaming with nothing.

>> No.70388651

>>70388308
Thats one thing you and doki have in common; neither of you know why she is getting this much support as an indie vtuber

>> No.70388680

shylily is so nice man, collabing with a small vtuber to help boost her numbers.

>> No.70388687

>>70388410
Not like Niji talking about their "Mental Health" kek

>> No.70388770

>>70388680
Who's "shylilly"?

>> No.70388796

>>70388770
I just remember veibae ripping off her voice.

>> No.70388810
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>>70388687
Do your English reps.

>> No.70388812

>>70387961
Buy an ad.

>> No.70388816

>>70387961
>seething 2view op

>> No.70388845

>>70387961
I love doki but I am not watching this shylily whore

>> No.70388848

>>70388770
The reason why Veibae lost her entire fanbase.

>> No.70388858

Yes, like choosing PiaPi for her Palworld twitch tournaments team, despite having much larger streamers asking to join.

>> No.70388913
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Soon.

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>>70388845
Then take a break dragoon. She's got plenty of streams coming up. Take care of yourself

>> No.70388985

>>70388770
more subs and better revenue than your holokek oshi.

>> No.70389036

>>70388845
You should be grateful, faggoon.

>> No.70389055

>>70388410
>Any Nijisis here is a reminder Vox is not streaming, Elira is faking to be busy, and the others have already been abandoned by them.
>Adopt a Nijisis, they will cope and seethe in your thread for free, and never leave cuz no one else wants them.

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>>70388919
Ty, I still need to finish her mass effect vods..

>> No.70389192

>>70388549
Not everyone is in it for le growth. Streaming to actual nobody is sad but if like one of your buddies is in the chat that's a fine way to spend an evening and anyone else who pops in is a bonus.

>> No.70389224

>>70389055
As a bong who can do a passable Vox impression, I wonder whether it would be profitable to catfish sisters over voice chat.

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>>70389055
Is that your best shot?

>> No.70389260

>>70389055
There are only 2 types of people who commit suicide - dead and attention whores.

>> No.70389289

>>70387961
Seething irrelevant 2view detected.

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>>70388308
You can tell they are copypasting rehearsed conversations because they don't even bother reading the replies first >>70388166

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and the ccv continues to plummet.

>> No.70389384

>>70389192
>Not everyone is in it for le growth
Then I guess they don't need support in the first place.

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>>70388985
Yeah, that must be why she's sleeping with CEOs.

>> No.70389402

>>70389334
Paranoia.

>> No.70389471

>>70389382
Plummet? It's been volatile all week. Batman was like 8-9k, helldivers 14-16k, sonic dreams 10-11k, wolf quest 11k.

>> No.70389512

>>70389224
nah, but you could read fanfics and short stories

>> No.70389713

>>70389512
Nah, that would require comprehension. Far too superior art for Nijisis, you need basic thing like breathing or cock sucking.

>> No.70389722

>>70388308
why would you collab with these ungrateful fucks
look at filian
she's giving the 1-2views a chance and all they do is spit in her face on twitter
i don`t even know why she still bothers

>> No.70389856

>>70389471
it's been steadily dropping, everyone said she was Gura tier 20k+ for life now, that it wasn't just tourists and dramaniggers. she'll be back at Selen level or lower in a few months

>> No.70389924

>>70389722
usually people who can't even get to 2digits are people who don't get you have to create attention trough twitter or other platforms. Or have some exceptional skill to surprise people.

>> No.70389938

>>70389856
We'll see, but honestly that'd still be fine. As long as she can fund her fan projects, I don't think she really cares how "big" she gets.

>> No.70390017

>>70389856
Gura level as an indie is absurd. She will likely stick to high 4digits but she can also grow trough collabs.

>> No.70390062

>>70387961
I get you, Doki should give a hand to those who barely get any ccv like Finana or Aia

>> No.70390076

>>70389938
Do keep in mind she's getting 100% of the revenue right now, and getting into Japan too. Wait until she gets sponsors.

>> No.70390160

>>70390076
Yeah. That japanese translating tweet could be huge. Imagine if she actually gets people to translate her streams or videos to other languages consistently? I think a big reason Ai got so big was because of consistent translations on everything, so it'd be cool to see her blow up with that too.

>> No.70390171

>indie
>filian
nice joke!

>> No.70390180

>>70390062
KEK, if this continues the entire Niji EN will require a collab, an entire karaoke couldn't beat a late ass stream.
Shows how ""strong"" the SEA market is, big words and no pull, just like woke people. They can have it.

>> No.70390206

>>70388848
I don't watch either but whenever I see them both live Vei still has more viewers

>> No.70390324

I mean she's an ex-Nijj, obviously she's also shit. I want the company to burn to the ground and all their talents to graduate. Not come back as someone else but permanently leave the industry. We cannot begin to heal until all of them retire properly.

>> No.70390353

>>70387961
Anyone who has been watching her objectively since restarting her account knows she's a numbers queen. She constantly talks about money and subs.

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>>70389231
Is that your best *cumshot?
Fify

>> No.70390625

>>70390353
I would ordinarily assume this is sarcasm but sister posting has become so common I genuinely don't know whether this is a serious post or not.

>> No.70390877

>>70390353
>company makes an active effort to drill into you that numbers are everything and you wouldn't have any without them when all you want is to be a funny internet person making people smile
>coworkers and management try to isolate you and berate you, making you honestly reconsider whether anyone even likes you for you
>people come out to support you against the people trying to kill your career
>get overwhelmed by the sheer amount of support, thanking them constantly and doing her best to adapt to the new audience size
huh, I wonder why she's been talking about it.

>> No.70391063

>>70390877
>I wonder why she's been talking about it.
She genuinely hasn't though, other than thanking people for support like any chuuba does.

>> No.70391096

>>70387961
When will Doki show post her pussy on fansly?

>> No.70391184

>>70391063
Yeah, I guess it depends on how you define "talking about it." She's made tweets at milestones and when she first came back, but she's also made a lot of milestones really quickly, so I guess that's why they think she's been talking about it "so much"?

>> No.70391258

>>70388985
>seethes at hololive out of nowhere
nijisis.....

>> No.70391390

>>70387961
Gotta grift the community somehow. She'll use this as she center herself as the head indie vtuber. Next thing on her plan is too collab as many indie as possible so that they wont say no if she ever held a tournament

>> No.70391480

>>70388848
Pretty sure Vei is still the reason Vei lost all her viewers.

>> No.70391488

>>70391390
This has the same energy as the termination notice berating her for "going around management to get perms for herself and the company."
Are you legitimately retarded or just blind? Even if it was selfishly motivated, what you're saying is a positive for the community.

>> No.70391513

>>70389856
>everyone
Nice fanfic retard

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>>70391390
When you think about it, streaming and by extension vtubers is just one big grift.

>> No.70391609

>>70388848
Nah Vei is is still the biggest streamer in the Vei&Vei-clones subcategory.

>> No.70391732

I like shylily and I like doki
Simple as

>> No.70391788

>>70390324
>sister trying to larp
Cute

>> No.70391942

>>70389856
Oh no, how awful, instead of being Gura tier, she's "Second only to Gura" tier. How will she ever sleep at night?

>> No.70392074

>>70388153
>niji are the good guys
Oh ok, ok sister. Sure.

>> No.70392147

>>70389856
If Gura streamed a lot, she'd be low 5 view. You saw it back when she was Advent overlapping towards the end. She had a few streams where I thought she might dip below 10k. Still very good, but her 20k+ relies on scarcity these days.

>> No.70392189

>>70391732
and Towa?

>> No.70392237

>>70392189
I dont watch people who SMOKE

>> No.70392322

>>70392074
/pol/fags can't help but self-report

>> No.70392345

>>70387961
What a retarded line of attack. As if Nijis do shit for the small indie community. Total sister meltdown

>> No.70392382

>>70392147
This honestly. I don't say everyone should do 3 months siestas like Gura, but honestly the current Vtuber system is kinda messed up, 1-2 weekly and get your group more separated and crossing over less would generate more constant and uniform views.
Then again, uniform views in an highly competitive market are not good.

>> No.70392401

>>70387961
Is Mumei making her play this?

>> No.70392431

>>70392345
>Retarded line of attack
>Nijisis
I dunno what you were actually expecting Anon, the thread got taken over in 2 seconds. Complete menhera incapacity.

>> No.70392440

>>70387961
>collabs with vtubers strong enough to be able to weather any potential smear campaigns from outside instead of putting smaller tubers at risk
Chad move.

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>>70389856
>everyone said she was Gura tier 20k+ for life
I never said that

>> No.70392517

>>70388153
Cringe libtard framing of a nationalist struggle against the Rustard Federation.

>> No.70392554

>>70392442
>teen
UUUUOOOHHHHHHHH

>> No.70392603

>>70388848
Vei lost her fanbase because she stopped streaming for months because she didnt like how fast her chat was, and she wanted to spend more time playing WOW with her boyfriend

>> No.70392679

Are sisters really desperate enough to try to fabricate a yab from a simple Shylily collab?
This has to be a falseflag. I refuse to believe that even sisters are this stupid.

>> No.70392843

>>70392679
sisters are seething because doki is doing furfag shit and somehow still bigger than nijien

>> No.70392902

>>70392679
Well, they tried to report Stars to Cover for collabing with Doki lol.

>> No.70392921

>>70389856
I might watch the vod of this, but I just don't like that Shylily is a disgraceful ewhore. Same reason Kson can fuck off.

>> No.70392931

>>70388166
>>70388858
The Nijisis aren't sending their best, so out of pity for them I'll respond to this on their behalf. Doki's slime girl team slot was still a "clout" pick, despite being a literal 'who?' 2view.
She heavily advertised the amount of hours, skill, and game knowledge of palworld she possessed when offering to join Doki's team on twitter. She was chosen for her ability to carry them to the top of the leaderboard; being in a top placing position during the event would bring more views than simply bringing in another big name to try and siphon viewers from.

>> No.70392948
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Nijiniggers really are vermin.
>Doki is currently streaming
>All the goonerfags are watching
>Make a thread about it
>Sisters ponce on it knowing Dokifags can't blow them the fuck out as per usual.
Pitiful and Desperate the lot of you

>> No.70392972

>>70387961
So when will Dan plap the fatty?

>> No.70392988

I un ironically think Shylily is an annoying uninteresting whore.

>> No.70392995

>>70392401
She certainly recommended it. Tbf it's not a game I would play but it works well as a viewer.

>> No.70393033

>>70387961
No one gives back to the small fish in the pond. You never see Eminem or Lil' Whatevadafuck collabing with some regional rap artists. Same goes with VTubing. It's an exclusive club, and you ain't in it.

>> No.70393084

>>70392902
Really? Proof? It's not that I don't believe you but I want to laugh at their attempts.

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>>70392921
There's no need to force yourself to watch something, anon. If you don't want to watch the stream or vod for any reason, it's perfectly ok to skip it. They're here to entertain us so if you're forcing yourself, you're just making yourself sad for no reason. There's plenty of doki content to love both from her old account and to come, so she'll be here for you whenever you decide to come back.

>> No.70393113

>>70389192
This. Discord adding streaming and clipping kinda lowered my need for it but I still like to stream to YouTube to keep VODs of certain games with friends

>> No.70393115

>>70392988
This but Doki instead

>> No.70393136

>>70393096
Bro what are you talking about?

>> No.70393181

>>70391788
Fuck you, I've always hated you Selen posters. Posting those retarded ass faces all over the catalog. The difference is that you used to direct that shit at Hololive, now you're cannibalizing each other. Don't make the mistake of thinking that Holobros suddenly like your shitty streamer just because she's no longer a Niji. She's still the same homo collabing whore that tried to rope in several holos to her shitty e-celeb tournament. Doki is obviously not going to go scorched earth and destroy Niji so fuck you, truce over.

>> No.70393185

>>70392931
Merit isn't the same as clout, Devil's Advocuck.

>> No.70393228

>>70389192
>but if like one of your buddies is in the chat that's a fine way to spend an evening
Please stop, I love my friends but I only have so many evenings I can dedicate to sitting in chat watching someone play Part 64 of garbage 90s JRPG

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>>70393033
Huh, weird.

>> No.70393301

>>70387961
seethe more 2view

>> No.70393354

>>70393181
Cope sister

>> No.70393380

>>70393286
Over 10k isnt small at all. Try under 1k.

>> No.70393424

>>70393380
She's promoted artists under 500 twitter followers before.

>> No.70393435

>>70387961
>So nice of Niji to collab with small indie vtubers. They really gives back to the indie vtuber community.
Fixed it for you.

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>>70387961
orcat <3

>> No.70393511

>>70393181
>headcanon
NDF arent sending their best, I guess the entire branch doing a karaoke being btfo by Doki was the breaking point

>> No.70393521

dookiebird is a turd

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>>70393473

>> No.70393553

>>70393084
>>70154203
They also made a list of people who support Doki, which is pretty funny.
https://web.archive.org/web/20240225111127/https://rentry.org/bandwagoners

>> No.70393564

>>70393181
NIJISEETHE

>> No.70393592

>>70393511
>E-Everyone that doesnt like my shitter is [insert enemy here]
Ah yes, taking from the Kson playbook already I see...

>> No.70393645

>>70393592
Sister... not like this...

>> No.70393661

>>70390324
>>70393181
>typical unicorn seething which is usually reserved for Holostars
>accuses factions which already rifled long ago over real issues and not "no boys allowed" of cannibalizing each other
You truly are remarkable creatures.

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>>70393592
KYS NIJINIGGER

>> No.70393736

>>70393592
>Chink detected

>> No.70393761

>>70388810
10/10 avatar
10/10 person behind
There, I said it, Enna is so fucking great, she is a genuine piece of shit, but boy isn't she entertaining.

>> No.70393767

>>70387961
Aaaaaand she's immediately ruined for me, can't stand whores who have to rely on e-girl thottery to get views from pubescent sheltered fuckers, sorry Doki but no, just no.

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>> No.70393875

>>70388913
Huh, surprising that Enna had more subs than Elira-gen-1-face-of-NijiEN

>> No.70393898

>>70393767
She was always an ewhore. Everyone said she only did male collabs because niji forced them, yet shes done multiple since leaving. Absolutely disgusting.

>> No.70393993
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>Nijisisters proving once again that they are nothing but vermin
I have never forgotten that it was Nijisanji fans that were the same assholes who triggered the Holocaust sending copyright claims to game devs like crazy and inciting Aloe to do An hero, among other things. Nijisanji has always been the vermin of the Vtubing space. This isn’t just about Doki everyone hates these sub-humans. I'm showing no mercy to these fuckers.

>> No.70394102

>>70392442
My predictions are mostly right about her CCVs, actually it is higher than what I expected.
I blame niji for making the black video and messing my prediction.

>> No.70394230

>>70393898
Literally nobody said she was doing male collabs because niji forced her... This revisionist history isn't going to well, huh sisters?
Hell, she used to commission art of her with her (now ex)boyfriend back in like 2018-2019. She was never unicorn friendly.

>> No.70394241

>>70393993
>B-But Nijisanji!!!
Rent free

>> No.70394261

>>70393592
3/10.
Needs improvement.

>> No.70394316

>>70394241
>said the retarded Nijinig making Doki hate threads every day

>> No.70394346

>>70393993
>triggered the Holocaust
Based?

>> No.70394360

>>70387961
God i wish mousey did the same, every time i open her stream i only see flesh streamers

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>>70394241

>> No.70394426

>>70394241
>Nijisanji
>Dying company
>Low viewership
>Low membership
>Sub-human fanbase
>Universally hated
lmao even a kek

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>>70394346

>> No.70394534

>>70394426
>dying
Any day now, right?

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>>70394241
>R-Rent free

>> No.70394596

>>70394534
JP? No
EN? Slowly dying off, its for the best

>> No.70394608

>>70393898
Dragoons were excited for a TSB reunion a few days ago. You sisters really need to understand that Selen was never a GFE chuuba and her fans aren't unicorns - they like the fact she collabs with other FPS streamers and they're obviously nearly always men.
I saw this in the days just after Selen's termination where sisters were bait posting about she's going to be collabing with Holostars all the time as though her fans would have an issue with this.
Why do they have this mentality?

>> No.70394632

>>70394534
How many streams happened in February vs January, sister?

>> No.70394693

>>70394632
Guess Gura is dying too then according to that logic.

>> No.70394704

>>70393185
When it comes to chasing tournament results that literally do not matter in the slightest beyond prestige, that's a matter of opinion.

Granted, Doki's team choices, and particularly her "I want to win this" pick earnt me a lot of respect. I don't think there were any better choices available if you were selecting purely based on trying to grow Dokibird's channel. A big vtuber, a big fps streamer, and someone who both can actually win and isn't off-brand for her own content base. That said I don't think Dokibird would've Piapi for any reason other than she just wanted to actually win Twitch Rivals for the sake of winning.

>> No.70394708

>>70393898
>Everyone said she only did male collabs because niji forced them
Nice fanfic

>> No.70394768

>>70394693
no, because numbers.

>> No.70394773

>>70394608
There are plenty of female vtubers that play Apex. Hell you only need 2 for a squad. Thats not an excuse to male collab, cuck.

>> No.70394826

>>70394534
You're right, it's more like its fanbase as in a way, dropped like a child. Making it wounded and retarded just like you, sister.

>> No.70394867

>>70393898
>Unicorn can't tell difference between the reasons why whores and tomboys prefer company of men
Haha, get filtered.

>> No.70394884

>>70394773
>she already had a all female Apex collab
Nijinigs are braindead lmao

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>>70394773
imagine falseflagging as a unicorn kek

>> No.70394891

>>70394608
Projection, they can't fathom someone watching a vtuber because they are fun instead of because they are obsessed with them

>> No.70394922

>>70394826
Don't drop out of your English class. Maybe one day you will be able to figure it out.

>> No.70394943

>>70393898
thats why i never buy into the dokibird hype, just another male collaborator bitch ejected by nijisanji (rightfully so for breaking nda with copyright issues of her mv song) with an annoying laugh.

>> No.70394950

>>70394773
>falseflagging as a unicorn
Try harder sister

>> No.70394958

>>70394693
Gura isn't losing subscribers or superchats, and each individual stream has more viewers than the entirety of a billion dollar company's EN branch. Please try again, sister.
There's a serious difference between a sub count stagnating and a sub count DECREASING drastically.

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>>70394608
>was never a GFE chuuba
Maybe not, but she was/is a strong Gosling magnet. Some people might get bent out of shape with her not streaming and ladder climbing with Nocturnal.

>> No.70395010

>>70394922
Cope

>> No.70395035
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70395035

reminder

>> No.70395059

>>70394608
>Selen was never a GFE chuuba
her members streams talking about her life and her voice packs were PEAK tomboy gfe material

>> No.70395093

>>70394979
Then they can just... leave? If it's a problem they don't have to force themselves to stay. Look at Niji. Their fanbase didn't want to stay anymore so they left. She doesn't owe them GFE, and she doesn't need to match their projections. Let the fans decide if they want to stay, like they did with Finana and Yuko. (though in this case they actually did.)

>> No.70395096

>>70394943
I agree, kinda like Vox, he sucks as well.

>> No.70395125

>>70394979
>>70395059
This, she is a Gosling magnet but not unicorn friendly
Funny how Nijifags attack her with shit like "male collaber" when they have a chuuba who is literally 20 times worse
>Enna

>> No.70395126

>>70395035
>male collab
Yikes!

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Why is OP so ma--Oh!

>> No.70395175

>>70393661
At least one of you faggots doesn't have your heads stuck up your asses. You're all still bitches and I hope your whores all graduate though. If Doki ever tries to host an e-celeb tournament that ropes Holos into it you better believe that all that Goodwill she earned will quickly dissipate.

>> No.70395206
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70395206

NIJISEETHE

>> No.70395295

>>70395206
OOF

>> No.70395301

>>70395175
>If Doki ever tries to host an e-celeb tournament that ropes Holos into it you better believe that all that Goodwill she earned will quickly dissipate.
She already collabed with multiple Holos as Selen, i don't get it.

>> No.70395313

>>70395093
>they actually did
Her numbers are already dropping. Everyone came for the drama then left. Lets see what it looks like in 2 months.

>> No.70395327

>>70387961
>Doki collabs with small indie vtuber
KEK she's fallen off!!1!
>Doki collabs with big vtuber
KEK she's an out of touch hypocrite!

>> No.70395465

>>70395313
>2 more weeks for sure

>> No.70395490

>>70395206
>Negligible
KEK

>> No.70395644

>>70395301
If her numbers drop to even 1/3 what it is now, she'll still be doing better than anybody in NijiEN, really showing how much the company was handicapping her.

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>>70395093
>Then they can just... leave?
If they were around for two years I don't think they'll be leaving that easily and make a fuss about it. For some fans Apex was a point of contention with Selen due to how it made her act when she lost and her Apex binges to prove herself after a loss. None the less certain people that fans might not want to have get too close like IPN long ago and Nocturnal last year. Just because fans see something they don't like happening means they will leave. Often times they'll try to fight back in what ever way they can because they don't want to lose something they enjoy. The fan base is fine with men, but there are certain lines they still don't want to have crossed with them.

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>>70395096
le retard de vox akuma is worse than selen. i dont hate selen (okay i take back that ''bitch'') but i dont wanna watch a female vtuber that collabs with homos.

>> No.70396096

>>70395313
Still doing better than any NijiEN "liver"

>> No.70396235

>sisters desperately trying to force unicorns unicorn narrative
lol
lmao even

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>gives back
I wish I could guilt trip elon musk into giving me money.

>> No.70396325

>>70395644
She's a professional shitposter and it's entertaining, but the "idol" restriction is nerfing her in terms of content, but he gets a lot of stonks tho from merch and sponsors.

>> No.70396931

>>70395093
>She doesn't owe them GFE, and she doesn't need to match their projections
As someone who might be described as a unicorn by some people, I only have an issue with streamers who gain a fanbase by doing GFE and then completely throw those fans under the bus when they think they're popular enough. If you were never GFE but some viewers developed feelings for you, it's not your responsibility to live up to their expectations.

>> No.70396979

>>70395736
I get that but at the same time it can't be that difficult to just... not watch every stream. When she spammed Apex, I left. When she played other things, I came back.

>> No.70397147

>>70395736
Stop making sense anon, only retarded post allowed...

>> No.70397157

>>70396979
Fair

>> No.70397192

>Doki announcing she hired people from QSMP to set up a dragoon members minecraft server

>> No.70397266

>>70397192
Nice

>> No.70397392

Why do her upper teeth move when she talks?

I can't stop staring at her mouth

>> No.70397486

>>70396931
Yeah, that's fair and understandable, and I can get behind that. I don't have a problem if the girls themselves don't want to collab with males (whether it's for their career or because they don't like men matter, if they don't want to, they don't want to ), but it's still frustrating as hell when people who've never cared for that part of it get flak from people who just want to push their projections onto her/him. I have very little sympathy for Finana or Yuko for building a community on a promise for content, then backtracking entirely on that and wondering where her audience went.

>> No.70397975

I find it hilarious how Niji had the fabled "gura-killer" this entire time, but the org was such a debuff it could never materialise until she left. Makes me wonder how big Salome would've gone if she were solo.

>> No.70398208

>>70397975
>I find it hilarious how Niji had the fabled "gura-killer" this entire time, but the org was such a debuff it could never materialise until she left
Nobody would have heard about her without Niji

>> No.70398434

>>70398208
This isn't th eown you think it is. The goal of the corpo (besides making money) is to nurture the talent and let them be the best they can be.
Niji did have a gura-killer, but amidst a shit branch, shit management, and a mean girls-tier atmosphere in general, she literally couldn't flourish. Reminds me of those crappy chinese novels.

>> No.70398466

>>70393511
>entire branch
oh you mean the d-list shutters vs grifterbird and actual holo members playing fotm game? yeah totally fair comparison.

>> No.70398562

>>70393033
Vtubing is remarkably open interpersonally, you see a ton of 4-5views collating with 3views. If there’s any barriers to collaboration they come from the corporate end, and even that is falling away now that one of the two big corporate blacklists is no longer trusted in the west.

>> No.70398640

>>70398434
>Niji did have a gura-killer
What the fuck does this mean? You've said it twice, but I have no idea. Do you think she was capable of over 4 million subs in less than 3 years by herself? Do you think she'll manage that even with her new account?

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>>70393181
Do holobronies really?

>> No.70398790

>>70387961
y-yeah..

>> No.70399059

>>70394943
>breaking nda
I am not even surprised but this is a new hypocritical nijiflection for me.

>> No.70399163

>>70387961
While this is an obvious bait thread I do believe collabing with good 1view beans that genuinely supported her would be nice.

>> No.70400134

I like how people are ignoring though that if she does collab with people that are "too small" they're going to get hate raided by NDF calling them clout chasers, kinda like how Mori stopped collabbing with her tiny oshis for a while.

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70400261

KEKW

>> No.70400295

>>70398466
>d-list
>some of the nost popular remaining NijiEN talents
Lol, lmao even. This isn't the own you think it is sister. If your most popular earners are d-list then what state do you think your company is in?

>> No.70400557

>>70398640
>Do you think she was capable of over 4 million subs in less than 3 years by herself
Gura didn't do that before she joined Hololive either.

It takes two things: Raw appeal. A corporation that actively promotes and assists you. Doki had the former but not the latter. All she got from Nijisanji was a signal boost by association. Did it help her grow? Sure. Did it help her grow to her full potential? Absolutely not.
Meanwhile Gura is being promoted all over the place. She's on fucking billboards in Tokyo, despite them not even understanding a word she says.

The point is that Nijisanji had someone that could have potentially competed with Gura. But instead of supporting her the way Hololive supports Gura, they left her to rot. They not only squandered a major asset, they bullied it out of the company.

>> No.70400882

>>70400261
>Doppio Dropsythe
What kind of name is that kek

>> No.70400954

>>70400882
>doesn't know about Bandage

>> No.70401006

>>70388060
aw, poor Elira wishes she could beg for a collab with her

>> No.70401193

>>70398466
D-list? They had two luxiem members during peak SEA hours.

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>>70398666
>666

>> No.70402062

>>70394693
Gura had a sushi restaurant collab generating a lot of money
NijiEN lost all their sponsorship especially that Hyte pc collab

>> No.70402180

>>70398466
>d-list
But that's the entire branch after Pomu and Selen left lmao

>> No.70402240

>>70388308
>actually getting no support.
Sorry, meant to say deserving no support.

>> No.70402993

>>70400557
Dokibird even has something Gura doesn't, something way more important for 4+views than good content will ever be. Dokibird is a god-tier networker. Niji actively throttled that, and Niji is a trashbin networker, which is why every Niji organ is capped at 4-view.
I don't think I've ever seen anyone use the temporary charity case buff as well as Doki has. She's been using it to build permanent connections and permanent viewership, when normally people fall for the trap of going all in on the more explosive growth elements which are as temporary as the charity case buff. If Doki manages to host one of her international vtuber tournaments successfully while her charity case buff is still active so everyone who is anyone attends; it's so over. She'll be the centre of the indie vtuber sphere forever. Her events will become the cornerstone of the indie vtuber community. She'll never become irrelevant.

>> No.70403143

>>70392442
Ssshhh anon, let the the nijisissy have this narrative

>> No.70403315

>>70402993
So what you’re saying is that the clique needs to sabotage it or get people to ruin it to drive her to irrelevancy…

>> No.70403558

>>70403315
Yes. I'm sure they will try, fail, and self destruct NijiEN in the process.

>> No.70403927

>>70403315
If someone is stupid enough to try to sabotage her charity stream I'll bust out laughing. Their career is over the minute they attempt that. Nobody in the west would ever work with them again.

On the other hand. If a Liver donates to her charity and she happily acknowledges their message in a friendly tone? That comes very close to exonerating that Liver from being one of the bullies. The only proof that would be better is graduating and collaborating with Doki. So if any Livers are reading this, and you know you didn't do anything wrong, consider tossing a donation to her charity to see if she reads it. Maybe message her behind the scenes beforehand so she knows about it. It's a good way to absolve yourself of blame while also contributing to a good cause. Maybe use a known PL to donate though.

>> No.70404007

>>70387961
Sorry you aren't relevant OP.

>> No.70404019

Do you anons think NijiEN is going to do something retarded tomorrow during the charity live stream or nah? What are the chances?

>> No.70404068

>>70403927
>Nobody in the west would ever work with them again.
You're talking about Niji. They'll unironically just retreat to JP if that happens.

>> No.70404140

>>70404068
If they lose the EN branch, investors will flee. The promise of growth is literally the only thing keeping the company afloat. Everyone knows the JP market is oversaturated.

>> No.70404333

>>70404140
Even then, remember that Riku unironically thinks vtubing is just a fad, he's just making quick bux while he can.

>> No.70404474

>>70403315
GOD just let Niji EN disappear already it's a known fucking parasite in the industry

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>>70388985
holy rent free

>> No.70410059

>>70387961

>> No.70410828

Doki's ego only big indies and corpo homos allowed. Expect vesper to do another therapy session this time with doki.

>> No.70413491

>>70404019
Realistically, very low chances. but I hope they do just because I want NijiEN go up in flames

>> No.70414118

>>70402993
Selen my beloved

Seize this triumph

>> No.70414851

>>70413491
I hope they start joking about white people, that would be the best. I won't watch the stream tho so please tell me what yab they do, Anon

>> No.70414972

>>70400954
And Yu. Q Wilson

>> No.70415140

>>70394608
What youre not getting is that selen attract the femcels who are into tomboy attitude they become unicorns

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>>70415140
Can you rephrase that? I think something got lost in translation

>> No.70417662

>>70393875
Enna was consistently more popular than Elira, just behind Pomu.

>> No.70418128

>>70395313
I remember the fags saying that she'd be a 3view by march.

>> No.70418446

>>70387961
literally who on the left?

>> No.70418788

>>70418128
She averaged 10-11k today. Kinda insane for game about dogs peeing on shit and fucking each other. It's almost like the viewers aren't leaving... huh...

>> No.70420983

>>70397192
/vsj+/ will anti her now kek

>> No.70421863

>>70388410
Based

>> No.70422351

>>70392948
Based Lui poster

>> No.70422872

>>70415140
You, uhh...tell them...sister?

>> No.70423940

>>70387961
I know this is bait but I'm also kind of tone-death. Is anon retarded for calling Shylily a small indie or is he a seething 2view that's only upset because Doki isn't trying to collab with real small indies to give them a boost?

>> No.70424492

>>70423940
I think most of the thread assumed it was a seething 2view.
That said, Doki collabing with a real 2view would actually fuck them over, I think. They'd get attacked by NDF almost instantly for clout chasing. Maybe later but definitely not safe right now.

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70424549

>>70388153
So true

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