/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://vt.poi.cat/

Hololive sites
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://holosongs.com/
>https://holo-spotify-stats.jirikunes.eu/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber
>https://www.nijiuta.com/

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

>>70384146
none of them namedropped Watame's rm? lame

MOST

INFLUENTIAL

>2 Miko threads

Incredibly based and Miko sex pilled

WHAT A GOAL

STILL THE GOAT

Graduate Ceres Fauna
Terminate Ouri Kronii
Suspend Hakos Baelz
Forget IRyS Houzuiki
Impregnate Nanashi Mumei

GRIM

GOLAÇOOOOOOOO

2 Miko threads, lets go

GRIM

our boy is still the goat, MOST

https://youtu.be/xgMHVPpVWyc
https://youtu.be/xgMHVPpVWyc
https://youtu.be/xgMHVPpVWyc
LET'S GOOO!!!!

>>70386076
>going after watames rm
the last time someone did that they disappeared

This Jap model in divegrass is so fucking good

/#/ mined chair status??!?!??

>>70386229
Shylily orbiter now? She needs a coomer model upgrade if she wants to roll with that crowd.

JERRY MENTIONED

New yab just dropped.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NhHDIytzr4

>>70385963
there was much less direct attacking and much more direct shilling on that side, from just pure reach perspective (the video essay focused on Holo + the two Mori interviews vs a flopped essay and a couple dumb comments on a random talk stream)
but the experience might differ strongly depending if you interact with the people experiencing hobby in a positive way or if you mainly experience other fanbase by arguing with randoms on Twitter/yt comments (which generally tend to be the dumbest and most radical part of any fandom), so at that point we can just agree to disagree

NOOOOOOOOOO

ouch

We're going to slip, aren't we?

>>70386177
>>70386219
Reaper!

>scored on by cunny
Our kryptonite

>>70386391
Why are so determined to welcome these kinds of people to the point that you has basically opened up the kind of people that would pass them by to almost include everyone?

>>70386456
I just started watching and we lost 1 goal, so probably

/#/bros we're not beating the ultimate jobber allegations

>>70386076
Everything outside of hololive in western vtubing was a mistake. #keepthegadengreat

Nice banners

>>70386456
it's our destiny

THIS DOESN'T SLIP

WE'RE BACK
MOOOOOOOOOOOST

>we are the kuzuha of vt povertyball
Grim

LMAO WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT POOSE ABUSE

BOYS
THIS
DOES
NOT
SLIP

Isn't it kinda poetic that we might only win against phase and the homos?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21CzXm3vq3M
Clipper-chama... those numbers...

not only hes playing like a beast, also cold blooded, the slip i kneel

>Slip didn't slip
I don't know how to feel about this

>>70386566
Negligible

>>70386668
Miko gold slip goal, it's in the cards

>>70386391
Hololive is not starved for attention, they can afford to be picky about who they interact with outside of the garden. It doesn't take a lot of people to poison the well, just look what a couple of dedicated schizos can do in this place.

Ironic weebs are some of the worst people to bring in, because a lot of people don't even recognize them.

>doki goes live
>instantly 200 membership gifted

>>70386653
Ignorance is truly a bliss.

>>70386167
>Houzuiki
>>70386556
>gaden
/#/chamas...

>raspberry goalkeeper dominates against the winner of the raspberry tally
KINO KINO KINO

Well damn, our team seems to have gotten much better nowadays.

Just a random question, how much does ID rely on the EN box for events?

/#/ WIN DORYAAAAAAA

Have we ever lost? Ah, sorry, sorry, the answer is clearly no, I apologize.

>>70386653

what you guys watching??

>Add Dmitri >:3 Jap
>Win
Was it really just that easy?

>>70386230
I wanna see it happen again

WE DIDN'T SLIP
HOLY SHIT

1 WIN DORYAAAAA

>>70386848
>:3

>>70386822
Vt league
>>70321504

>>70386668
>tournament king doesnt slip now didnt slip

>>70386816
this is literally our 2nd win across our entire history lmao

holy shit 3-1 this is insane

>>70386822
Reposting on his behalf
>BELO JOGO JUMPSCARE

VT LEAGUE 6 IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW AND WE PLAY NEXT!
Our opponent is /pcgia/ (apparently is a thread that exists).
Will we choke?
Will we carry on the win momentum from our win over /lig/ on friendlies?
Who knows, it'me to find out!
>Where?
https://isthisliv.com/4cc/stream.html
>When?
NOW

Most influential team

DOOOOOORRRYYYYYYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>70386804
ID does their events in JP time, so it's a decent mix of ID, EN, and JP fans.

>>70386503
I think that external collabs in general are a reasonable move if the intention is attaining some sort of growth and that the situation oftentimes is less about "who you want to do it with" and more "who can you get to do it with you" and try not to overtly demonize fanbases as monoliths (people shitting on Hololive love doing that as well)

>>70386743
Hololive as a whole, yes, especially now
Hololive around the time Myth/ID2 debuted? was way less stable than what we grew used to and it might be hard to remember that it was running on the back of a couple massive, some close to company killing situations (holocaust, Aloe, chinkout and loss of HoloCN branch)
Homos in general? they really have to take what they got and squeeze every personal connection

>>70386566
Who is PIA?

>>70386804
ID does their events at JP time so probably not that much, for those at least

We did it, this the season number bros, all we need now is to not suck at wrestling

>>70386743
TT guys were Mori's real friends. She wanted to onboard them to the box because idolshit is fake and cringe. And then holofans rejected them, and by extension, Mori herself.

>>70386903

>>70386903
dont care

>>70386848
>:3-1
DORYAAAAAAAAAAAA

SLIP I KNEEL

DORYAAAAAAAAAA

>>70386965
We literally can't lose

>>41249655
>>41256587
Here are some old Tempus threads discussing Vesper's trip to Japan for those asking for source. Apparently there was a Tier 3 members stream during January 2023 about it. I don't know where an archive of it can be found since it seems members content no longer exists on his graduated channel.
Interestingly, Gura is mentioned 27 times to shit on her during those two threads.

>>70386804
ID events are in jp primetime so probably not that much

>>70386989

kek, the other win was against /mans/

>>70386947
You seem to just be a dramashill, by your own criteria they might as well try to get people from anywhere else as well and not just settle for people who are already against them.

>>70387008
>Gura is mentioned 27 times to shit on her during those two threads
Christ, these faggots/sisters are fucking bitter.

This is our year lads. This time for sure

Every time I see an interesting stream with no live TL my desire to learn Japanese grows, sometimes it even results in doing some reps

>>70387008
oh i aint reading any of that, but i vaguely remember something like you had mentioned so ill confirm

>>70386970
>>70386989
>>70386992
What are these shite fucking players? DORYAAA with an H? The fucking success breeds jealousy meme that was forced by a single autist who gave up and left a year ago?

>>70387072
manstars wasnt it? Good times

>>70387072
The single most important match we've had kek

>>70387072
>bring in Jap
>btfo homos
AAAAAAAAAA STORY ARC SCHIZOOOOOOOOOOO

>>70387077
>these faggots/sisters
its sisters and male sisters
also checked

>>70387111
Shut up, mongoloid! The anon that made the list put it for review dozens of times in this thread, if you missed it you need to lurk moar

>>70387111
hey bro don't just kill me off. i'm still here

>>70386969
Thank fucking god people outside /here/ had a moment of clarity and rejected them

>>70387111
There's a poll on who gets included and who gets kicked out
Next time suggest stuff if you have better ideas

>>70387111
vote in the form

>>70386989
On one hand, /#/ won.
On the other hand, at this rate it's gonna fuck up my bingo card!

>>70387163
>male sisters
So faggots?

>>70387185
The TT are absolute retards and tried to pivot away from weeb stuff into Ludvig adjacent stuff and shed a HUGE segment of their audience in the process, which just so happen to be the audience that would be closer to Holo than to Twitch

>>70387111
maybe you should've voted, catalognigger

>>70387008
Is the tier 3 member about he’s gonna collab out of spite?
Because he missed tempus collab but have issue to join Mori and Kronii

>>70386969
I'm sure they were as real friends to Mori as Vesper and Magni were. Too bad they don't hang out after Myth mania died down, I wonder why.

Will we finally make it this season /#/bros?

>>70386955
Phase alias (phase general but without Pippa and gen 1 discussion)

>>70387275
It's our time.
MOST

Holochads for this feel?

>>70387256
There was, at one point, an enormously close relationship between people who posted on the TT reddit and people who posted on the Hololive reddit. Wonder if that's changed as they've moved away from actual anime stuff.

>>70387275
this does not slip

>>70387308
INFLUENTIAL

>BELO JOGO anon here.

Ladies and gentlemen... We got'em
Next match against /who/, on sunday

>>70387008
roru
those threads are a fucking goldmine of info now

>>70387268
Cope
notMori still keep in touch on TT side. Dunno about homos.

>>70387008
>Gura is mentioned 27 times to shit on her during those two threads
Huh?

>slip MVP
>Miko thread
It's a sign
2024 is Miko's year

>>70387076
anon, the problem in this discussion is that you see something like TT fans as some "anti-Holo" gathering where it was mostly neutral-positive attention, some dumbass statements from the dudes themselves notwithstanding
likewise, daph's chat is full of fucking zoomers not the Black Panther movement members
this is exactly what I talked about when treating fanbases as monoliths and it's exactly the same line of logic used by people shitting on Holo by depicting every fan as a raving schizo that hates their oshi have any personal agency, even as far as leaving her house or calling in sick
you and I know that's not true so why make the leap of logic and treat it as true for other fandoms

>>70387385
I LOVE YOU ANON KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK

>>70387388
Fuck off doxxfag

>/#/ makes a betting game of bingo
>/#/ bets that they'll slip in the league
>/#/ immediately puts out the best performance of its life in the league
Is this self sabotage

>>70387307
So like...uh....Promise + Advent general (no Myth discussion allowed!) That's weird.

>>70387369
THREAD

>>70387385
THIS IS THE SEASON

>>70387335
That's a hot tummy

>>70387268
Mori still does things with gigguk wife and she also does twitch related things with connor and mouse on her RM sometimes

>>70386903
>/Nijien/ still has POmu and Selen in the team
lol, lmao even.

>>70387307
Is that just a way to ban Pippa without seeming like they're singularly banning Pippa?

>>70387345
>between people who posted on the TT reddit and people who posted on the Hololive reddit
Such overlap still exists. You can recognize them for the gratuitous use of "parasocial" as a catchall and "idol culture" as a negative moniker.
More often than not when people do surface base opsec on that type of retards their relationship with the "poser weeb" crowd is unveiled

>>70387385
JAP'S THE GOAT

>>70387385
THIS WILL NOT SLIP

>>70387335
Chink alert, someone get the bug spray

>>70387407
I genuinely couldn't give less of a fuck about those people if the same amount of growth can be attained from anywhere else without the baggage that you are so insistent would be negligible despite these kinds of people regularly showing themselves to be part of the current cancer that attacks hololive.

>>70386969
The fuck are you smoking? The Trash Taste collab was brought on by partnership between Cover and Kadokawa you dumbass. That's why Hololive got those Bookwalker advertisement streams a few weeks after the two times Mori went on TT.

>Mori can go around in her underwear
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xh6EeqRBzNY
Does it mean Cover is going to switch to panties soon?
Good swimsuits at least?

>>70387385
Adding jap was the key

>>70387418
name?

>>70387385
I might have to go back and watch the minecraft pessi stream

>>70387437
I'd do it too if I had to share a general with pippafags

>>70386992
Sasuga yellow woman

>>70387345
>>70387500
I can still remember the shitty ass "cross polination" word they kept spamming everywhere.

There we go. When claiming that TT is good for Hololive doesn't work, start doxxing. Like clockwork and proves why TT is bad for Hololive.

>>70387495
Apparently /pcg/ doesn't give a shit about gen 2 so it'd be like having /cope/ around.

>>70387514
C

H

U

>>70387259
that stream was apparently where he made the whole excuse about "being a tourist", "off his meds" and shit like that about why he didn't attend the first full Tempus collab..

>>70387345
not really, there's still decent overlap because most people who liked TT casually liked anime and it's easy to like Holo in that situation

>>70387437
It wouldn't be weird if Myth was filled with volatile assholes.

Hey, you guys dropped your trash in global.
>>70387396

>>70387562
>Bring back the cgdct
>Bring back the trophy for /#/
JAPCHAMA MY GOAT

>>70387573
just look up gunpla on youtube

>>70387407
nigga you talking like this thread don't do rounds of opsec and the TTsimps are at the forefront when isn't a phasekek.

>>70387151
KINO
> KINO
KINO
> KINO
KINO
> KINO
KINO
> KINO
KINO
> KINO

>>70387474
I thought Mori stopped her RM activities to focus on Hololive last year.

>>70387672
You can keep that faggot.

>Rosemi is the captain of /nijiEN/
PLEASE GOD GIVE WOSEMI A WIN TONIGHT
SHE NEEDS IT

>>70387616
TToTT

>>70387672
fuck off globhomo

So what does 2 more weeks mean?
Infact what the fuck are most of your players references to?
The Dimitri jap one was good

>>70387645
Yeah and that’s why it’s sus when he had no issue doing squad collab at the same time

>>70387385
kudos for the Belo Jogo player btw. Fantastic visuals.

>>70387672
You touched, it's yours!

>>70387407
you're right, in fact we should make an open invite to pippiggers, after all it's not like ALL Pippa's fans are from virtualasylum and kiwifarms, just 99.9% of them

>>70387530
that's the thing tho, you kinda ignored the whole bit about getting what you can get rather than what you want
Myth didn't open with Taco Bell collabs and Billboard interviews, despite their early exploding popularity they still reached out to what was familiar, approved and attainable and used that to fuel early growth for anyone that wasn't named Gura

Reminder that these members have their MMD models up for public use
https://www.mmd.hololive.tv
They removed Meru from there too...

>>70387672
Keep him

>>70387739
Go back

>>70387739
Lurk more, or just check the wiki that regularly gets linked

>>70387672
We love Fauna here

>>70387739
Stick around and learn the culture
I promise we don't bite (unless you're Mumei)

>>70387788
Did they never release the MeL one?

>>70387672
I am not the father.

>>70387739
Lurk moar and lurk again

>>70387672
Sir, this is /uuu2/, please keep him.

This song sounds way worse than I remembered.

Camon /doog/! don't ruin my parlay!!

in another news
https://twitter.com/Ringsel1/status/1756391028230144145
https://twitter.com/Ringsel1/status/1756391028230144145
https://twitter.com/Ringsel1/status/1756391028230144145
1M AGAIN, DOOOOORYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>Ironmouse 3D flops in every way
>TT defence force and Hololive doxx
Surely a coincidence.

>>70387788
Suisex Doko?

>>70387345
Honestly, back when it started it seemed just like 2 weebs and some literally who guy just shooting the shit talking about anime and Japan.
But the more it went on, the more the scab started to come off, and the pus started leak little by little.
For holofans, the Connor thing was the last straw (because he was already separate from the other two anyway).
For their own fanbase, their AoT episode - where they talked about AoT's ending with only one guy having watched the entire thing - was the last straw.

>>70387995
It's never a coincidence.

>>70387845
I'm not brown and the whole board mocks you.
I'm fine

>>70388054
Oh no, the catalog hates us, how will we ever recover

>>70388092
The difference is staggering

Even in the match nijien is taking L . . .

>>70387407
> some dumbass statements from the dudes themselves notwithstanding
> daph's chat is full of fucking zoomers
Anon nobody here gives a shit about whichever fleshbag has a "good chat" or not.
The audience fucking reflects the streamers.
These "dumbass comments" coming from their "fanbase" would be easily ignored, but it cannot when it's coming from the 2 retards directly.
Same with daph, if her chat was typing some woke shit nobody would care, but she herself was typing it, which is why people cared.

>>70387995
fucking wild seeing TTfags defending those grifters in this thread

>>70388092
What the fuck is that thing?

Fauna soon

>>70387788
>public use
my favorite tag

>>70386023
>>70387672
FAQ

>>70388092
>ribbonless tail
lewd

>>70387739
I assume it's 2 more weeks (until Shiori collabs with x), in response to shitposters

>>70388178
Hakos Bealz, a steel rose trapped in a cage of ice, from Hololive Promise, formally Council.

>/nijiEN/ playing with characters that are already graduated
Is that legal

>>70387788
Anywhere to find Mel’s deleted model? Was Rushia’s model there before?

>>70388092
Is this what troons like?

>>70387931
/doog/'s models are so good

>>70388274
We had Sana as goalie far longer than we should have had her, but the circumstances make this funnier

>>70388170
anon, there's no need to be a TTfag to just represent reality
a lot of people that like(d) TT casually also grew to casually (sometimes more than that) like vtubers, the less investment they had in specific dudes, the more likely it was
fixating on the argumentative, eternally online side of any fandom will always end up putting the cart before the horse (the cart being simply enjoying the content)

Doki still has her 10k floor btw

Fauna might actually do pretty well with this sc reding.

>>70388221
Faunaschizo deserves a mention there

>>70388383
>collab

>>70388383
and it will continue to drop.

>half the nijien divegrass team is pomu and selen

>>70388274
As the designated heel team of the league I'd honestly like it if we played into "illegal" builds like the Pekofied Nene.

Who the fuck was singing diamond shitty farts and why did it sound like korone

>>70388383
A solo stream floor?

>>70388383
so lower than 25k and 20k floors you've predicted?

>>70388414
No, he really doesn't. Don't give schizos any more attention than necessary or else they'll act out more because they love the attention

>>70388463
What even led to PekoNene playing for us?

>>70388389
I'm honestly just keen for a few hours of Fauna tangents

>>70388362
go back faggot

>>70388414
> naming schizos as anything other than schizos
roru

And here is for today's RASPBERRY REPORT, one with a MASSIVE BRAWL for dominance in this first day of the month!
The holostars raspberry debuffed themselves with two out of the four streams of the day being unarchived karaokes, leaving their only representative, Flayon, limping into the zone with a barely sub 900 performance.
For the main fight, recovered from theri raspberry debuffed couple of weeks, the NijiEN army brought THEIR FULL FORCE and even some reinforcements: Hex and Meloco, Scarle and Maria, Kunai and the EMPRESS all showed up to escort the KING to an easy gold
>BUT NOT TODAY!
Remilia BLOCKED HIS PATH, slapped his empress in the ass and demanded headpats or she wouldn't let him pass.
So he huffed, and he puffed, and he huffed and he puffed and sighed
>but Remilia didn't budge
AND BY A DIFFERENCE OF ONLY NINETEEN the first gold of the month goes to Remilia of Phase!

>>70388477
>he knows the song by heart
SUS

>>70388530
The original Pekora kept jobbing so she got skinwalked

phase fags shipping their ceo with the talent

>>70387788
When are they finally gonna add ID2/ID3/Promise

>>70388593
That makes sense

>>70387672
We love Fauna here, can't be ours

>>70388564
K-KING..... NOT LIKE THIS!

>>70388564
B-bakana....that power!

>>70388564
> RASPBERRY GOLDS FOR MARCH 2024
01) Remilia (Phase) - 378 - Zatsudan

> PER COMPANY
1x: Phase

> PER STREAMER
1x: Remilia

Previous Month
February: >>70305904

>>70388581
I used to be a nijikek in 2022 until I found Fauna

>>70388362
Anon I think you really underestimate the amount of cancerous homobeggars that came from TT, and the difference it made when Hololive actually collabed with TT, making them feel comfortable integrating with the Hololive fanbase
The decent people in the TT fanbase would've eventually come around to vtubers anyway

>>70388564
Kneel

>>70388564
*sigh*

I need to kick Fauna's tongue

>>70388729
>from niji to fauna
Huh. What made you change, assuming this happeend before the yabs.

What song is this with mr.koro and ogayu?

>>70388362
start doing opsec check on the niggers that get spammed /here/, you will see that TT is a crossroad of those homobegging faggots

>>70388791
Lick*

>>70388564
you almost got them emperor
*sigh*

>>70388678
She has the power of darkness and light on her side. The King has no chance against the DIVINE

>>70388791

>>70387672
You can keep him

>>70388955

>>70388749
>Anon I think you really underestimate the amount of cancerous homobeggars that came from TT
He's not. Anon at >>70388362 is making a more general argument that people shouldn't generalize an entire audience based on a few bad apples.
His argument would be reasonable if "the fish weren't rotting from the head" in Trash Taste's case (because of the behaviour of two of them and of the wife of one of them)

>>70388749
I in turn think you heavily overestimate it
but as I remarked earlier, it might just be a matter of what part of the fanbase you actively look out for and interact with, there's space for both positive and negative bias forming

>>70388362
> grew to casually (sometimes more than that) like vtubers
Anon they are the reddit crowd that watches clips "ironically", spews the same dumb memes about every holo and shit like "I thought Fuwamoco lived in Japan".
And no, nobody who got into that crowd will be converted into streamwatchers. Because anyone who were watching TT were also watching Hololive at the time, thanks to the pandemic.

>>70388841
Check the doog wiki page on implying rigged, all the goal horns and anthems should be in the info box

>>70388564
stop dragging phase to your shithole tally.

Toko big love!

>>70388807
My oshi was Pomu, too many male collabs and a majority female fanbase that made me feel isolated, watched her Halloween streams and eventually forgot about Niji and made her my oshi.

>>70388984

>>70388807
Probably Luxiem and the other Homos

Jesas nijiEN is COOKED

>Meloco 696
>Scale 631
>Maria 607
Doki 11k
WHAT WITH THE FACE NIJINIGGERS?!

>>70389043
Sorry anon, with great power comes great responsibility.
It was one of Phase numberfags that pled vrabi to add them
>and the monkey paw retracted another finger

>>70389090
It's just not their year

>>70388849
if I formed my perspective based on "random schizos that selfdoxxed on /vt/", I'd hate many more fandoms than TT, including a number of holo ones
fuck, probably the worst and most aggressive, anti-talent schizo I seen plastered their whole profile with Haachama pictures (and sometimes Ame in Nazi paraphenalia)

>>70388989
> it might just be a matter of what part of the fanbase
> people shouldn't generalize an entire audience based on a few bad apples
for the last fucking time, nobody gives a shit about the "fanbase" it's always the CREATOR that's important.
TTfags didn't shit on holo and leeched off the popularity for a while, but the moment one of them did that, the holo audience (actual stream watching ones) dropped them like a fucking rock.
Same with daph, nobody knows nor cares about her "audience" they only cared that she herself was a racist POS dramawhore.
Because
> repeat after me
AUDIENCE
REFLECTS
THE
STREAMER

>>70389090
yeah they are also losing 4-1 in divegrass

>>70388298
>Anywhere to find Mel’s deleted model?
https://files.catbox.moe/zgxkye.zip

>>70388441
sure sis

Which HoloEN girl doesn't pretend to be a seiso cutesy little girl? I'm tired of all this pretending bullshit when we all know they're not innocent.

>>70389133
if you can't help but fall for the most basic of falseflags, then just return to reddit and your safe space TTnigger

>>70388989
connor won't fuck you faggot

>>70388824

>>70388626
When they remember to request it, it's an opt-in thing

>>70387982
I'll be honest I would eat Mori's ass like there's no tomorrow

>>70389133
Good thing that TT's reputation isn't solely based on their fans but i'm sure that you already know that

>>70389200
anon, I understand falseflags
I also understand that some people are simply mentally ill
that's exactly why I don't generalize

>>70389060
I see.

>>70389229
LMAO
>>70388926
>>70389007

>>70389199
None, they're all here to pretend. That's what vtubing is.

>>70388987
>Anon at
You yourself, schizo.

>>70389229
>>70389322
lol lmao

>>70389335

>>70389133
This argument is so retarded due to the applicability of it on almost anything
>See few bad apple don't represent the entire fanbase
>Every schizo who was a ttfag or homobegger or nijinigger or phasefag is just a coincidence and doesn't represents that fanbase
I am sure I saw this point being used used by phasenigger when they found 'some' schizo who anti hololive to coincidentally be phasefag

Shameless

>>70389133

>>70389269
Your whole point is "don't generalize". In this particular case, tho, it's hard because as pointed out multiple times
>and exactly in the same way it happens to Pippa fans
the "fish rots from the head" and there is a pattern of behaviour from a significant segment of the crossover.
But you and the rest of the crowd are prolonging this unnecessarily and there won't be any common point.
You say
>don't generalize
people here say
>it's the 99% that give the 1% a bad name
There is no common point meaning there is no point in this debate

>>70389229
>>70388923
AHAHAHAHA SISTERS?!

>>70389395
it's a bot spamming all the holomem

>>70389133
It's not just random schizos on /vt/, it's also many of the outspoken homobeggars on reddit, where it's absurdly easy to opsec check them, which is a significantly more representative sampling

>>70389359
If you can't see that that post is disagreeing you are too dumb

>>70389395
Sad

>>70389427
Stop linking fresh posts, makes it look like you're just cross posting your own posts

>>70389448
See >>70389415, there won't be any common point between you guys. It's the "Idealist vs. pragmatist" debate, he can't see beyond
>there are good apples
and the crowd here isn't interested in "taking the good with the bad" so they throw their whole lot out

The only weebs that should get into hololive are unironic weebs. People ashamed to like anime should stay away.

>>70388564
Bow to your cunny queen, fake king

>>70389267
once again, I do not defend nor care for their reputation, nor the reputation of their fanbase
I still hold to my opinion on the general fanbase still being a source of positive growth

>>70389136
>>70389415
you are correct in that there will always be an overlap in fanbase/creator opinion
but there's a good rule of thumb that positive elements of fanbase will be more attracted to positive sentiments, which is why I experienced in gathering like cons or just casual interactions with other fans
obviously, this place is more likely to select for the more negative representations, simply cause of its nature

>Holy batman clickbait leeching thumbnail
phasekeks your response?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDlyW3HkX8g

>>70389269
nigger it's always TT fucks when you read parasocial, or those ironic weebs, fuck off with this "not all TT viewers are bad" angle, they are and always been a detriment to hololive, especially after the cocksucker went all-in, the wife of the halfbreed made a video last week
>i hate idol fandom
with rushia on the thumbnail

>>70389476
Still all you. Stop arguing with yourself.

>>70389516
oh nyo. How about no

>>70389559
Modern anime is shit. Notice how even turboweebs only ever talk about older anime.

>>70389542
honestly, it's not like there's much of a choice
HoloEN has the most casual-attracting, fanbase overlapping vtuber in the world
I think being more positive about that viewpoint would also lead to easier integration of those people into the hobby proper

>>70389415
The retard keeps arguing because he's a TTfag who wants the thread to pivot on their opinions. Telling him not to argue is pointless, you're better off just telling anons to stop biting and just tell him to fuck off. He's the faggot that crossposted to this thread when the old one died in the first place.

Why are you biting bait

>>70389640
That's a bit too on the nose

>>70389623
shut up, moral nigger! this is not twitter and you will never be like your heroes

>>70389502
Fuck off short hair goth Fauna

>>70389720
>I think being more positive about that viewpoint would also lead to easier integration of those people into the hobby proper
I disagree and the success of the JUNSGANG backs my opinion

>>70389742
im hungry

>>70389795
We love all Fauna's

Bottom line is:
There is zero positive to gain from TT audience.
There is all the negative to gain from TT audience.

That is all.

>>70389701
There is still plenty of shows that are at least entertaining, the irony is that watching Hololive is like watching a long running CGDCT/idol/slice of life series now, eventually you pick one over another.

>>70388564
Cunny always wins!

>>70389838
correct take, also less than 1hr from Fauna

>>70389133
I'll say this. One of the tt fags shit on hololive but not Nijisanji because apparently suddenly japan laws matters. The other fag has openly stated that Nijisanji is better than Hololive, made videos shitting on Hololive, ignored the entire Niji drama and had his onlyfans whore make a video on how vtubing and Idol fans are bad. Only the actual anime liking tt fag likes hololive.

>>70389848
Name 3 examples from the last 3 years and I'll give one of them a shot

>>70389781
anon, I've been on this site for a while, nigger/fag are terms of endearment to me

>>70389838
you literally posted someone that gained a lot of positive attention through them

>>70389919
>you literally posted someone that gained a lot of positive attention through them
kek, she can keep it

Anybody think it is hilatious that the only vountries where baes album didn't flop were taiwan and hong kong? She called her album zodiac for fucks sake

[Number news]:
Highlander has been put on google sheets. I can now keep it running indefinitely. Or until the day holol loses. Or we run out of names

>>70389919
doen't change you are still a faggot and you should kys

>>70389838
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
HOLOLIVE NEEDS TT
AND OTV
AND OTK
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>70389890
https://youtu.be/V0fhwhH-Iu0

>>70387398
>huh?
newfag, the reason why hololive fans are so put up with the homos is because they and their fanbase is a cancer that could only be happy by tearing down everything that hololive is.
Never let them pretend that we just started bullying them for no reason, the only way that the hololive we love doesn't metastasize into the same dogshit it is everywhere else is if we don't let it. Most of us had to learn that the hard way during 2022

>>70389976
the fuck is a highlander?

>>70389542
It's not just that, he also thinks that there really aren't that many bad apples (>>70388987) which is entirely delusional, though I still disagree

>>70389838
30% of your audience is SEAnigs the rest are JPcucks who don't want even to acknowledge your existence.
Where do you stand in all of this?

>>70389994
No one cares about Fauna anymore, stop posting her. We all dropped her.

>>70389838
Tenma thing just reinforced how shitty twitch streamers are
Hololive already dominates YouTube
Who else is even left to collab with to increase the so called 'mindchair'
>Inb4 vshoujo offtopic especially after seeing today concert
>Niji is burning
>Phase is an ant in comparison
>E celeb are clout chasers

>>70389919
>you literally posted someone that gained a lot of positive attention through them
Okay faggot, let me make it clear that I was talking about Hololive, you know, the only Vtubers that have been talked about and matter in this context. Happy now? IM can keep all the positivity she can get from TT, God knows she needs it.

GO IRyS GO

>>70390077
I've fallen more in love with her

>>70386903
fucking /ggg/ retards. We were in the quarter finals just last time........

>>70389976
If you keep it running indefinitely, holo will keep first place until every single holo is in the tally, and eventually niji will pass them simply due to having more livers.

>>70390036
Chuubas can only win gold once. I'd tell you to lurk moar but I'm feeling generous today

>>70389919
E-celebs wanted one lapdog vtuber so they can "own" the vtuber market, but they're internally seething about how little influence Ironmouse has despite them rigging awards and embeds for her.

>>70390077

>>70390077

>>70389994

>>70389976
so holo has 24 golds left

>>70390077

Can I collab with Gura if I have enough clout?

>>70388383
Collab 1st time wolfquest is a huge buff
Holy shit that almost 14k waiting room, is brutal

Graduation right after 3D reveal rip
https://twitter.com/V4Mirai/status/1763685927631880457

>>70390336
Genuinely braindead

>>70390327
no

>>70390350
wtf

By the way, I think you guys should get this data:
>have a cousin who streams on YouTube (fleshstreamer)
>mid 2view at times but runs decently well
>did a few Vertical streams
>5k subs in the past week
This shit JUICES harder than I realized

>>70389821
JUNSGANG IS NOT REAL
they're invisible

>>70390396
we already know shorts are great for dead subs

>>70390327
I collabed with Gura and I have no clout. Our cover song will release soon!

>>70390327
You can 100% get collab with Gura if you are Hatsune Miku. You can maybe get collab with Gura if you are part of Hololive. If you are neither, you can't get collab with Gura.

>>70390108
I mean, I never made a point that at this point Hololive needs or should push for a collab with that circle (Holo obviously outgrew it), but I also think that they were a reasonable choice when they happened (when HoloEN as a branch was unstable and working to establish itself) and that Homos were following similar logic, rather than anything particularly nefarious (but we strayed super hard from where the argument even started out)
all in all it's more playing of devil's advocate and highlighting some general tendencies in fandoms (and also broadening own perspectives) rather than actually vouching for anything

>>70390350
Who? Someone post a picture please.

>>70390350
WOW THAT'S NUTS if you ever heard her voice you'd know she could never last

>>70390350
Whoa what the fuck I didn't expect that

>>70390155
this is completely redundant, you dumbfuck. we already have a sorted chart of median peaks. chances are it will follow that trend. you're in numbers thread, you should know better.

>>70390478
It's not about the data
It's about fun

>>70390327
Depends on what you consider clout
If what you mean by clout is being a cute girl that speaks english in hololive and aren't afraid of sending pms first then yes

>>70390470
explain

>>70389720
I think we DID actually have a choice in the case of TT
In the timeline where Hololive never collabed with TT, the shitty ironic side of their fanbase would've never given Hololive a chance, and eventually ended up on the same side as "vtubers are cringe" twitterfags and "I like anime but streamers are cringe" anime-puristfags shitting on Mori's rap and laughing at the horse porn
Maybe they eventually come to like StarsEN but they wouldn't have infected the girls' fanbases
Instead, we got the TT collab, the TT-fags gave their implicit approval, and expose them to Mori in a positive light, so they ended up infesting Mori's fanbase because "Mori is the only one not faking her voice and personality" and eventually other fanbases, then becoming a force that pushed Holos and stars together

>>70390447
but, Miku never collab with gura..

>>70390350
oh no, not the mare pussy...

>two weeks till fes, which means I gotta travel soon...
https://youtu.be/KmSmiKlU_iQ?si=Agl_2-6CqGGqwbJU
https://youtu.be/KmSmiKlU_iQ?si=Agl_2-6CqGGqwbJU
https://youtu.be/KmSmiKlU_iQ?si=Agl_2-6CqGGqwbJU

Why does it seems like that the only HoloENs needed to be in Japan for Holofes are the Myth girls?

>>70389701
Doesn't matter we don't need people who cringe about CGDCT or moralfag about cunny

>>70390505
it's not fun when you already know the outcome

>>70390455

>>70390350
>Recent circumstances
>Please don't ask about reason
>Rest assured she's healthy
That's unusual graduation announcement

>>70390153
I think we will run out of unique names first
bet your balls?

>>70390568
Mr Jap is firing Promise and Advent...

Why is there only person doing the act

>>70390533
I saw debut and it was just like, wow, not the kind of voice you'd expect

>>70390568
If you want the truth, it's that Myth will never be overtaken in popularity by Promise or Advent, ever. That's just how it goes.

>>70390568
They probably have the Myth girls doing MC bits in top of recordings

>>70390350
I nearly cringed I thought it was Vampire Pomu...

>>70390568
maybe there is a myth ppv panel for expo?

>>70390645
>in popularity
Depends on how you quantify it

>>70390568
>Why does it seems like that the only HoloENs needed to be in Japan for Holofes are the Myth girls?
They are the only ones doing live shit for the fes?

>>70390350
Nijisanji claims another...

>>70390694
Money making

>>70390327
reminder that Nacho is the only person outside of Hololive that got to collab with Gura. Not to mention that she was still a who at time time

>>70390694
JP mindshare, Myth will never be overtaken by another EN gen

Haven't been checking back here for around 2 days. Catch me up on what's been going on.

>>70390235
>March has 31 days
>Holol needs 16 to win
>Less if indies/other wins

>>70390546
Gura doesn't have enough clout for the Mikussy

>>70390451
>Homos were following similar logic, rather than anything particularly nefarious
I disagree, the two fags who got graduated were definitely nefarious against the girls fanbase

>>70390694
MIndshare
Merch sells
Amount of art
Subs
CCV
There's plenty. I like watching Fauna, Mumei, Fuwamoco, etc, but Myth is already set in stone to be the most popular.

>>70390774
Fauna streamed yesterday, and she's streaming today. No Mumei just yet, she's busy. That's all

>>70390774
Nerissa is collabing with Hakka's girlfriend today

>>70390447
>>70390752
Are we not counting Matpat because it was a recorded video instead of live?

>>70390778
february holo won with 14

Have >we considered sex with Mococo yet?

>>70390447
Your oshi sleeps with me, chumkeks.
I am papashark

>>70390694
Quantify it all you want in every metric they are superior. and I'm not even a holofag

>>70390835
He didn't talk directly with her

>>70390603
You'd need to keep it running for at least a year for holo to start losing, that's my bet.
I cannot, however, bet my balls, for I have already lost them

>>70390645
Yeap. Gura will dominate merch sales and ccv. Mori will dominate music views. It is what it is.

>>70390835
Matpat didn't even interact with Gura. They recorded their lines separately and handed it to management.

>>70390752
That's because gura is a sweet person. She knows she owes a lot to nacho-mama, so a collab to boost her streaming popularity was granted

>>70387217
>not putting /#/ winning the /vt/ league as the unlikely bingo shot
Even when we win, we still take massive Ls...

>>70390854
Only Anal

>>70389916
The ones I enjoyed the most in 2021-2023 not necessary some mainstream 10/10 hits, and with me watching pretty little in general
>Megalobox 2 Nomad
>Yuusha Yamemasu
>Paripi Kolei
>Lycoris Recoil
>Mob Psycho S3
>Bocchi the Rock
>Benriya Saito-san
>Saving 80000 Gold in Another World
>Kamikatsu (because it's insane https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4M6_j16eoU))
>Otaku Elf
>Reign of the Seven Spellblades
>Dark Gathering
>Frieren
>Ragna Crimson
>Tearmoon Empire
There were other 2021 shows that were pretty good, but personally only Megalobox was one that I picked up and actually enjoyed greatly.

>>70390597
oh nyo not horse mumei

>>70390807
>CCV
If you did a generational average chart for CCV I think Promise clears Myth

>>70390854
Of course, it's what Fuwawa would want me to do.

>>70390879
>hololive has 60 talents
>anon bets that holo can win 180+ golds
yeah not surprising that you lost your balls already

>>70390478
>>70390505
>>70390592
>fun things are fun
I'll post it end of month. That'll be Q1 of 2024. Let's see if the data matches

God I love Fauna so much

>>70390327