/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

There are unpopular opinions and then there’s being executed by firing squad

>>70354591
This isn’t reddit

Unpopular opinion, but I want to impregnate Towa

>>70354591
> VShojo
> Idol

So kson left an idol company for joining... another idol company ?

>>70354591
explain your reasoning

>>70354725
All that hype and worse numbers than Bae.

Pathetic

>>70354591
I wonder how bad the plasma shortage is, she's been asking people to donate plasma a lot more recently.

Who there can even sing besides mouse now? I stopped watching them after Nyan left. One of them doesn't even speak

>>70354591
But I thought Connor's mestiza tradwife is terminally ill and can’t dance?

>>70354957
I mean people watch Hololive for idol shit, they watch VShojo for react content, sex jokes, and coom bait. Of course the vtuber doing stuff that matches their demo is gonna do better

>>70354989
Froot and Hime
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stB6Ux-6g74
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3erBvWdvPJw

>>70354591
Of course it's good, but she also paid $100k for that. She got scammed and going by her stream she knows it.

>>70355108
Neither of them can sing

>>70355108
I won't watch Froot on moral grounds but the Hime song is good. Surprising given her speaking voice is unbearable. I thought Hime was more or less Gura status to Vshojo though. Does she stream now?

>>70354591
whore trying to be an idol?

>>70355327
>whore
anon if she has sex she'll literally die

>>70355418
Damn, how'd she shit a kid out then?

>>70355475
she wasn't always sick

>>70354591
Unironically I agree with you.
Good for VShojo keep it up.

Unpopular opinion: Vshojo deserves to be successful and make it as big as nijisanji and Hololive based on the business model alone. Allowing the girls to retain IP and allowing them to continue on in life after the agency should be industry standard.

>>70355602
Popular opinion you are a secondary and should get off this board

>>70354591
>greatful

>>70355697
Isn't she a highschool dropout, and from a performing arts school at that?

>>70354884
Yes, anon. Companies can have different work environments

>>70354725
lol

>>70354591
That is not an opinion. That is a statement.
Statements require arguments to support them.

>>70354884
She may cope now but she did not want to leave at the time and probably still wishes she didn't

>>70355475
vhoejo unicuck thinking ironlung never had sex KEK

>>70354591
So does she also hire a body double to fuck Connor with an iPad on her face?

>>70355602
what next? the company will not take any cut at all,not making profit to show how "great" they are for retarded on twitter like you? then you think they will successful like holo/niji KEK

They need to poach Gura from hololive, that would be amazing, I'd watch their concerts then

ironmouse is an idol now

>>70356188

>>70355602
Unpopular opinion: Corpos like hololive and nijisanji should cease to exist. They do nothing but harm in the long run.

>>70355602
VShojo is only successful because they 95% rely on the members they recruited, and all members are either already popular Twitch indie or exHolo and exNiji and Pikamee, so naturally they already gained a large fanbase without much effort

I will die on this hill until a new corpo with new inexperienced members adopt this strategy and be successful

i think is good that she tried but...she really need to fire these hacks because there is no way this cost 100k

>>70357188
you dont say please tell us something we dont already know

>>70357188
Mouse and Henya are some of the best vtubers in the business, that's why they are succesful, but I don't like that they are adopting the exNiji clique and I hope they stay away from the drama.

congrats to mouse on a great performance

>>70354725
kek the twitch fuckers really embeded it to double the numbers, vt was right

>>70357525
Looks better than most nijiholo 3D.

>>70357970
are you joking or serious?

>>70358046
Serious.

>anon starts his post with "Unpopular opinion"/"Real Talk"

>>70358085
https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=optometrist+near+me

>>70358435
Epic insult holodrone. holo 3D looks like shit, their hair is stiff and their mouth doesn't move.

>>70357525
>hair clipping and non existent physics
>MMD model
>skinwalking
The #2 vtubing company, ladies and gentlemen. Literally the Great Value of vtubing.

>>70358712

>>70354836
how can a male get pregnant?

>>70354591
why do you think this is an unpopular opinion? back that up.

>>70355832
And ESL, too. Easy to forget that

>>70358871
mpreg

>>70354591
I mean thats not what their audience watch them for, do they even have Karaoke streams or something similar?nxskv

>>70359463
...yes? Mouse, Kson, Froot, Kuro and Matara have all done karaoke on stream

>>70355697
Ironmouse has ESL.

>>70354591
I-is she being bridal carried by some dude?

>>70360357
Nothing new here

>>70354591
Mouse I donate bone marrow, I can't give anymore internal shit, please!

>>70354957
Even worse when you consider bae did it at lunch time on a weekday in Japan.

>>70354884
It's almost like anons who say kson hates idol stuff were talking out of their ass.

>>70354591
That handwriting just made me an ironmouse anti.

>>70361812
I now have Numbers5 and Numbers4, still on the lookout for the rest of the number monkey pictures

Never watched Ironmouse. Never will. I enjoy Henya though.

>>70357162
Corpos created vtubing

>>70356054
As a newer vtuber consumer, I still don't understand if she was forced out or left the company on her own volition and if she hates the company or not and viceversa if the company refuses to have anything to do with her. Apparently Niji still blacklists her but is fine collabing with other vshojos. It's all confusing to me and doesn't seem clear-cut like other cases like Mel, Rushia, etc.

>>70363801
And? they don't deserve to stay around when they're all a detriment to the well being of all the vtubers and the community.

>>70354725
I love grudgeposters
Complete vshojo death

>>70354884
There are idol groups leaning towards being traditionally seiso, and there are idol groups (well, at least 2) consist of JAV actresses, anon.
Just because they are both idols doesn't mean they have to be exactly the same in nature, especially with the nu-idols rising up in the last decade

>>70359463
>do they even have Karaoke streams
is this a joke? If you google Ironmouse the first suggestion is singer. I'd say a quarter of her content is karaoke.

>>70361812
Check out >>70275699 :)

>>70363909
>Indie join corpo mutually
What next, you going to peddle they being forced to join a corpo? They exist because a slacktivist faggot like you contribute nothing to indie.

>>70364031
Wow a post on numbers, quite natural
>>70276385

>>70360357
That is her mascot Bubi, a vtuber who rarely streams, but shows up to all her special events and has done 2 duet's with her now counting the new song from last night.

>>70364031
Why vshojokek like this?

>>70364093
Yes, that is the resident vshojofag that loves to shit up the thread and brag how he bots fuwamoco and other vtubers posted there (he would never bot ironmouse though)

>>70363880
The semi serious answer
>if she was forced out or left the company on her own volition
She wasn't forced out of the company
>if she hates the company or not
She doesn't hate the company
>if the company refuses to have anything to do with her
This is a bit more vague since there hasn't been any solid evidence for or against it. For all we know, though, Cover has no problem with their talents bringing her up on streams or collabing with her on RM. They might or might be more reserved towards Kson on official accounts, but we can't be 100% sure about that

>>70364140
>She wasn't forced out of the company
she was put in the cuck corner and was given no EN collabs, no sponsorships, no appearances on the main channel, no group collabs
it's pretty clear what they wanted her to do

can someone give me a qrd? I thought she was literally dying and bedridden and unable to leave the house or something

>>70364134
>Mouses
That's not him unless he finally learn something new

>>70364282
Her 3D (MMD) concert was last night, some good songs and ended on a high note.
Mouse is happy, OP pic was written up and some anon is currently gagging on hot Mouse chode.

>>70364282
Skinwalker, same person who worked with Marine previously.

>>70354725
Ironlung fans are the worst

>>70355697
>ESL

>>70358871
Anon... Why that anon get preggo from fucking a cute demon girl?

>>70364134
Yes, I’m sure that a /vsj+/fag will go into numbers and bot some FWMC for a stupid fight with a thread, for no reason other than being a dick, it’s his master plan to make everyone love Ironmouse, by making them hate her more as he clearly doesn’t wave the flag to look extra obvious

>>70359463
Iron Mouse in particular has an opera background or has had training in that style, as far as I remember.

>>70364204
>No group collabs
She was in a bunch of group collabs even before her graduation announcement. Mainly with Gen 4, Bakatare, with occasional Botan + Lamy or big AmongUs collabs
>no sponsorships
Not much Cover could do when no sponsor approached them back then wanted to sponsor her
>no EN collabs
This is true, but it was Omega's doing and she wasn't entitled to getting EN collabs anyway. She was HoloJP and she said she accepted his reasoning (and she'd do the same if she was in his place).
So no, it wasn't "clear what they wanted to do" unless you are trying to shitpost. Joking asides, Kson isn't retarded - the fact that she still loved Hololive and Cover enough to spend her own time + money to defend them months after graduation showed that she didn't think she was maltreated (with any sort of malicious intent) at all

>>70364622
Nothing happens everything is a falseflag

>>70364368
Anon she couldn't even beat Raden with all the embedding and homepage placement.

>>70364431
That wasn't the skinwalker, anon. That was the choreographer. Choreographer isn't the same as dancer

>>70364675
>She was in a bunch of group collabs
this was after she had decided to graduate but it was not announced yet
>no sponsor ... wanted to sponsor her
if this is true how did she get so many sponsorships literally right after graduating?

>>70364714
Few people can beat Holo. If that's how you numberfags want to do it, most non-Holo chuubas (and groups) shouldn't bother with concerts, then. That'd make a more boring scene, no?

>>70364732
Oh, I just read it from the tweet some nerd responded to. But yeah you would be right, she isn’t the skinwalker

>>70354725
>first post is a numbermonkey posting his own post
Like pottery.

>>70364810
>Few people can beat Holo
Wait I thought ironlung was the best vtuber ever? I thought she was the kween of vchuubing? What happened? Big numbers doko? Somehow she's still getting beaten by a coked up arthoe from a fucking Holo side branch.

>>70364927
Thats the 2nd
Oh my bad am I being a numbermonkey by saying how retarded you are?

>>70365197
>chimps getting mad at their own tail as usual

>>70364810
That's actually a good argument, but sadly you are responding to number lunatics, so meh

>>70364781
She didn't get "so many sponsorships literally right after graduating", though? She even had a sad stream when she was lament how companies didn't want to work with her (after Chinks cancelled an event she was invited to).
She only started getting sponsorship around a year after graduation and in VShojo
>group collabs
IIRC, FBK said Coco told her about graduation around Feb (I don't quite recall, but definitely in the same year). She was in group collabs before that, i.e:
https://vt.poi.cat/youtube-stream/JGkCXn02f4E

>>70365197
man get a job, this is pathetic

>>70365247
the funniest thing is that the reply for that post is >"stop setting up your own grudge post".
Imagine being this pathetic.

>>70365261
>She only started getting sponsorship around a year after graduation and in VShojo
never talk about my oshi ever again seachimp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eBCZmFC8NI

>>70354591
just clearly shows west has -5 clue what the fuck idol even is

and no, I wont waste crayons to try and explain it

>>70365391
the west had idols before japan even had modern plumbing

>>70365261
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QL8I0HnD6A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wO0_gKWSGcg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0jYy1S8dVY
dumb retard monkey

>>70365532
>the west had idols before japan even had modern plumbing
t.

>>70364927
>pointing out numberfaggotry is a form of numberfaggotry

vshojo fans aren't the sharpest tools in the shed.

>>70364431
sounds kinda lame for a solo concert to show the model dancing then, could just have dancers on stage and her just singing or something

>>70365532
cool story bro, but western "idol" will never reap the same merch and ticket sale benefits as Japanese Idol™

>but muh marketing
JP Idols sell out merch/events before they even get chance to advertise it, good luck competing with that

>>70365801
Let's be honest, while I do think there's probably a few, it's not like Ironmouse's audience would be the one to be that autistic with some of the idol stuff, most of them go into Hololive's audience if anything. So it's like a non issue to have the model doing a choreography while she sings.

>>70365903
The entire japanese idol industry is 'we have michael jackson at home'

>>70365719
Pointing out numberfaggotry would just be to call the anon a numbermonkey for caring about this shit, not engaging in it themselves.
So yes, both of them are numberfaggots which shouldn't come as big of a surprise since that post was made in /#/.

>>70365602
>Go Food: March 23rd 2022
>WoW: March 4th 2022
>Nosh: Jan 15th 2022
>Coco's graduation date: July 1st 2021
Leaving asides the fact that they, bar World of Warship, weren't the type that would approach Hololive first for sponsorship (Cover already said that they don't contact sponsors, sponsors need to come to them), that's what I said, though?
>She only started getting sponsorship around a year after graduation and in VShojo
The only sponsor she got shortly after graduation was Intel Core this >>70365386 said, but then none of Holo member was sponsored by Intel either so it's just that they didn't approach Hololive first.
If Kson was actively contacting sponsors, good for her, but that wasn't and isn't Hololive / Cover approach

which one had the better daki?

>>70367072
she was not in vshojo at those dates like you claimed

>>70354725
Even with embed, its peak was only 32k. Kek
Ironlung fags get another reality check. Now it's back to posting monkey AI whenever numbers are mentioned to help them cope.

>>70367491
holy shit what the fuck is that ironlung daki

>>70367491
WTF IS THAT SHIT? Who fucking looked at that IM art and said "Yeah, let's choose that for merch"

>>70367809
I didn't just say "in VShojo", anon. I said "and in VShojo". Two period of time there. And while I'm at it, I also said
>no sponsor *approached them* back then wanted to sponsor her
The "approached them" part was important, too

>>70367491
is the left real?

>>70369249
As a huge fan of Mouse, I don't want that daki. I did want a normal looking daki of one of her existing model but this is what we got

>>70369461
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVS8Pf3JgYw

>>70354725
the good rodent won

>>70354725
Close!! It was a rat

>>70357525
male dancing for her btw

>>70354725
Spbp

next time just show her and connor having sex, that is what ironcucks like anyways

>>70370115
Can't beat the cock.

>>70354591
>Vshojo doing idol concert
Whores singing and dancing are called a tabledance

Cry about it

>>70370321
lmao this is atrocious looking wtf

she had to hire a dancer to mocap her own model lmao

>>70370367
No fucking shit, she can barely walk

>>70369926
Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but a quick look through VTStats and YT showed that no one in Holo got WoW sponsorship in that period (between Coco's return and her graduation) either. They just didn't approach Hololive

>>70370367
This is not the own you think it is

>>70354591
This is like the third or fourth time Mousey has been part of a major concert event. It's not even her first solo concert.

>>70354591
absolutely not, all it does is attract ironic weebs who are only into it for the bit, it cheapens the effort and dedication an otherwise amazing event it would be

>>70354591

>>70369468
Unfortunately it is real and check the other side of it and its message bubble.

>>70371241
I'm guessing at least 2-3 kson cucks will reply to your post with monkey numbers

>>70367491
left one is supposed to be a daki? its not even body pillow shaped
also that ironic weeb text jesus christ, even ame's pillow had more respect than this

>>70371241
>5 times the ccv
>not even double the amount of vod views or likes
your thread is a joke

>>70371241
Tribalfagging is ugly

>>70371554
All their streams are botted

>>70371554
>VOD views or likes
Can be easily farmed, either with KPop style or low retention rate, without as many people watching at all

>>70371728
you think japanese and taiwanese salarymen would obsessively boost the engagement of their favorite streamer's concert so she won't look bad in the chimp thread on 4chan?

>>70371686
We know. If Kson did it on twitch she could've gotten higher numbers with bots+twitch front page.
They know the max bot for a vshojo stream is 15k since it'll be way too obvious if someone just looks at the slow chat.

>>70371686
Cope+Seeth

my dream is to end lead pollution and prenatal alcohol consumption in developing counties
there is no reason why these people have to be this way

>>70372361
Is that why Ironlung can't leave her bubble?

>>70357555
IM stream was embeded at twitch frontpage
>Imagine counting that blatant number manipulation as actual views

>>70372391
it's why /#/ exists

>>70364810
The person who's winning all the awards you care so much about should be able to beat holo, but can't. Why is that?

>>70372485
> Comparing numbers is bad because my oshi's numbers is lower
That's how you vshojo fags have always been. I remember back when Kson joining vshojo was first announced, you faggots were celebrating and saying vshojo will soon have higher numbers than holo and niji combined.
Now look at you faggots hating /#/ and seething really hard whenever the numbers are compared.

>>70371241
All you did was prove that holowhore views are botted, champ. There's no way 70k people would want to watch a grown woman talk like a retarded baby.

>>70372830
muhammed getting mad at his own imagination again

>>70372879
>All you did was prove that holowhore views are botted, champ.
The cope is real

>>70372962
But you're the one coping. Why don't holowhore streams get likes? Because all hololive fans are from SEA and buy cheap bots that can't add likes.

>>70354725
dunno why anyone is surprised here
rats are bigger than mice
its just biology

>>70372830
NTA but I hated /#/ back then when I used to watch more holos and I still hate them now when I watch more vshojo. Your thread is the cancer of this board, pretty much on par with Nijibots.

>>70373030
The sisters aren't sending their best

>>70354725
>embed buff
>still lose decisively
yikes

>>70354884
kson has a warped perception of what an idol is these days

according to her rant a few months ago, she seems to think that twitch whores who shake their asses on stream and talk about their boyfriends can qualify as idols

>>70373142
Yeah the SEA holosisters are indeed not sending their best bots.

>>70373284
this is what numberbrowns actually believe

>>70364097
Her mascot is just a guy…? What’s the point of that? Is it just so she can do duets?

>>70373350
came straight from her mouth, keep coping cuck

>>70373402
timestamp

>>70372830
Kek. I remember that. A lot of them were even hoping that Kson would drag some holo members to vshojo

>>70373435
before I waste my time spoonfeeding you, will you agree to concede that you're a stupid cuck once I prove you wrong?

>>70373335
Okay. At this point, it's actually hard to tell if it's another phasecuck falseflagging for more drama or if you're an actual nijisister that's simply retarded.

>>70373655
They won't. They'll try to spin it to something else or downplay it, like they always do.

>>70373696
Why is everything always phase and niji with you? This thread is about holo and vshojo.

>>70354591
Is she being held up by a male with his shirt open in this picture? Who the fuck would want to see that?

>>70373780
This thread is about vshojo

>>70373738
well since he didn't respond I take it that he's not confident and therefore I will post the spoonfeed anyway just to shatter his world view

I thought this blew up across the board when it happened anyway, there's no excuse whether you lurk here or are allegedly a kson fan. otherwise it has to be some kind of reddit cuck tourist who doesn't actually watch any streams but still wants to give hot takes on wrong opinions

>>70373738
so what do you think?
LOL
LMAO! EVEN

>>70373780
Because it unironically happens. Have you not seen what phasecucks are saying on leddit and yt comments.
They're praying for the downfall of holo and niji because they think it will make them no.1

>>70374223
To be fair, they're not wrong in thinking that the only way they can be #1 is by annihilating the competition, because they're certainly not going to get it through merit https://files.catbox.moe/s4t2dn.webm

>>70373922
ultimately it boils down to cucks

>>70374072
that's about musicians, not vtubers, retard

>>70374798
it's about vtuber idols you imbecile

that transcript is written by kson herself and the topic of discussion is vtubers, that's why there's also mentions of gachikoi fans and collabs

the video and transcript is right there in the pic, you're a brain dead cuck tranny

>>70374890
holy shit you are stupid

>>70374914
I accept your concession, cuck

>>70374945
i do not see any mention of vtubers, twitch or shaking asses in that transcript
those seem to have apparated somewhere in your indonesian mind

>>70374993
kill yourself you actual subhuman

>>70375038
that's another part of the stream mahmout

>>70375114
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume your life is simply so sad that pretending to be retarded is your idea of fun, rather than you having serious mental issues (as opposed to mild ones)

last (You), virgin

Still waiting to find a vtuber who could sing even to half of mouse's level

>>70375171
if she was talking about vtubers in that sentence you're seething about why would she not use the word vtubers?

>open thread
>Holofags being tribal as per usual
>close thread

>>70371241
>minimum of 2 years of free rent
Fuck

>>70375382
/#/ is unironically packed with redditors who hate her for not giving them meme review anymore

>>70371241
>>70372879
>>70372962
>>70373030
>>70373142
>>70373335
>>70373696
>>70373780
>>70374223
>>70374302
I LOVE AND WATCH A GROWN WOMAN THAT TALKS LIKE A RETARDED BABY
SHE IS MY OSHI
NEVER SHITPOST ABOUT HER

>>70375546
Why does she bot her viewcount?

>>70375546
This but Gura

>>70367491
I fucking hate ironic weebs so much

>>70354725
So I heard it was on Main page and had the twitch user buff but damn, does this mean a little less than half aren’t even signed in to an acct?

>>70373738
>>70374798
kek

>>70367491
The Mousepad looks significally better
Even her old daki is better
https://cuddlyoctopus.com/product/ironmouse-2/

>>70357188
you trying to sound smart but you just said what's obvious and how every corpo works.

>>70373304
These are hilarious. SEA is just a magical place that just keeps on giving.

>>70357188
Literally every single person in hololive was popular with a big audience. Nobody there was a small nobody who made it big because of hololive.

>>70372962
https://files.catbox.moe/rq1jjx.mp4

>keep mouth shut about production problems
>Produce watchable content on a large scale
>just far enough from daily streamer bullshit and drama to entice weebs and fantasy fans
>got many sponsors so ad revenue is profit on YT
>gunrun is a techbro who smiles and cares about his EN team to be hands on and demand work from real managers

It will help define the industry to the larger world. Ironmouse is a mad genius about one thing, streaming.

>>70373284
>kson has a warped perception of what an idol is these days
>cites a stream where at no point does it mention idols
Bruh

>>70373375
No, he's also a marketable little mascot like this. The tall handsome demon form is just something she had designed for the rare occasion he actually streams as well as lore videos and things like these concerts. Bubi's idetinty is terribly kept secret and a running gag at this point, but it's a certain dawg.

>>70373922
>>70374591
Do you look at vtubers and have to see them as your girlfriend? I dunno man, seems strange. They're just funny people on a screen to me.