/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>70352448
You would be extremely fucking naive if you can talk about homos here without those unicorns coming in with /#/ monkeys and pro-virgin

>>70352448
this place has always hated MALES.
i dont hate them on principle myself, but i've yet to see one worth watching, which probably says alot about what it takes to make it as a male in this industry.

>>70352584
Hashtag monkeys? Pro virgins? What the fuck are you talking about? Is this code? What the fuck has this board become?

It was always this bad
It all makes sense when you realize every poster here are gossiping women

>>70352448
no homos

>>70352448
>grifter girl gura
Nigger don't fucking act like you're a Holofan by shitting on another Holo.

>>70352655
>holo can do no wrong

>>70352631
reminder that gura made that image

>>70352448
>When did the board get so bad
This board wasn't good to begin with. Before Luxiem it was just shitflinging #s

>>70352448
My opinions:
I want to lick Towa's asshole
I want to lick Bae's asshole

>>70352682
Ah, so you're just a beggar mad that people don't give a shit about your male failures. What a sad and pathetic existence.

>>70352448
Don't use Towa as your shield, deadbeat.

>>70352682
Your nijideflection shows
My will is strong, my faith remains true
I will be a chumbud forever more

>>70352448
Unicorn and the last attempt of NDF to deflect us from next graduation

>>70352448
They can't stop thinking about cock, just like how they also can't stop thinking about Gura. An endless cycle of shit-flinging like the monkeys they are.

>>70352448
nijinigs trying to get people to shit on certain holos for whatever mundane, underwhelming reason and a handful of monkeys retarded enough to fall for it
the usual

>>70352584

>>70352783
You're literally the first person in this thread to mention male genitalia.

>>70352644
nO hOmOs

>>70352448
It was shitposting at first
Then faggots like Parrot started making le funny moments compilations of this board
Then waves of tourists came, thought the shitposting was genuine and started shitting up the board in an attempt to fit in

>>70352815
And you are also the first person to acknowledge it. Thanks for proving my point.

>>70352448
They're unironically just homo cucks in denial.
They can't stop thinking about other people's dicks and obsessing over getting cucked by them.
Once you realize this you will just ignore these subhumans and their weird humiliation fetish.

>>70352448
you're the normalnigger who came here after the nijidrama
if you can't handle this autists you can return to leddit or twitter

>>70352882
>no u
Anon it's very telling when your kind is the one that always brings up male genitalia when people shittalk "muh precious and underrated bois". Case in point >>70352884 and complete with the first mention of cuck fetish as well. But sure, it's the people who don't like those male failures who are obsessed with gay porn, genitals and being cucked.

>>70352882
What is this mental gymnastics

>>70352682
>npc
go back homo collabing tranny

>>70352682
correct

>>70353294
It goes both ways faggot lol

>>70352783
>>70352815
>>70352882
>>70353015
im just amazed both of you dumb niggas are fighting

>>70352630
lurk before posting again, tourist-chama

>>70352448
What thread?

>>70352448
welcome to /vt/
>new hololive game
>threads and posts are all gloating about no homos when the game(s) are all about hololive

Remember when everyone made fun of the JP unicorns? When everyone saw them as the Chris-chan losers they are and that the EN fanbase would always be superior since they don't get aneurisms over males? When Gura could make a Roberu reference with no autistic screeching to follow? Yeah...

>>70353970
And then Cover debuted some of the worst, most menhera faggots in existence over another EN gen and followed it with an even worse group 6 months later.

Bae's not even a good singer idk why ratfags insist on dying on that hill. That anon had a point frfr

>>70353970
>aneurisms
ESLchama...

>>70352448
There are some brown containment breaking schizos from /#/ but most of the catalog is just breeding grounds for holoan from dedicated discords who actually coordinate this shit together

>>70354037
Oh please, they could have been the most mentally stable, entertaining men in existence and /vt/ would be just as much of a shitshow. The unfortunate truth is this fanbase had a lot of unicorns in waiting, just needing a trigger to be woken up.

>>70352448
I want to impregnate tower

>>70353970
It's extremely obvious that you are a newfag, please stop embarrassing yourself

>>70354426
The board was fine with them at debut but then Ame, Kronii, and Vesper acted like psychos and things will never be how they were.

>>70354426
And Cover managed to hire the perfect group to wake them up as fast as they could and coupled that with an obvious incentive for the girls to push "muh HoloProEN" retardation thinking that the vast majority of the audience was interested in watching Nijisanji but with the blue triangle instead of the rainbow pac-man.

>>70352448
that's why you go to the generals DURING any live event, not the catalog

>>70352448
>Most of the thread is about the homos
Ah, so you were the fag who was spamming homo comments on cooldown and got his posts deleted 3 seconds after being posted, so you got so anally pained you resorted to doxxposting and shitting up the catalog?

>>70352448
Listen, I love Bae, and I love Towa. Your post had both, so that's why I clicked. I don't care about any of the other shit you posted.

>>70352448
kill yourself vturdjofag

>>70352448
go suisei yourself Dookieturd

>>70355083
Which one would you mating press first?

I actually like a few of the stars (rbr is objectively the best), but all of this could have been avoided if bae just stopped trying to trick her genmates into collabing with males. It's really underhanded to not tell them who else is going to join the stream, and try to force them to malecollab without their prior consent.

>>70355209
Not even unicorns believe this

>>70355170
Seniority is important.

Sisters are going completely insane lmao

Most "unicorn" posts on the topic are holo antis shitstirring. Actual unicorns stopped caring about Bae a long time ago, she made her stance clear.

>>70352448
>everyone says don't collab with homos because it'll bring a lot of unnecessary drama
>fuck you I'll do what I want, fuck my fans, fuck my antis, fuck everybody who tells me no
>bunch of unnecessary drama happens like everyone said it would
>wtf this isn't fair

Don't collab with homos. You are shooting yourself in the foot. Kronii did it, Ame did it, it always ends bad. Stop fucking doing it already.

>>70352448
I ripped your microscopic banana off in 2020 and I'll do it again 4 years later, kenzocuck
NO
MALES
NO
MALE
COLLABS
THIS IS NOT A JOKE
THIS IS NOT A DRILL
THIS IS NOT A MINORITY
THIS IS NOT A HYPERBOLE
WE
ARE
UNICORNS
YES
>WE
WHILE YOU WORE TOWA COSPLAYS
THE UNICORNS WERE TRAINING
WHILE YOU TELLED DOWN PICTURE
THE UNICORNS WERE TRAINING
WHILE YOU TIRED TO SPELL YOUR OSHIS NAME
THE UNICORNS WERE TRAINING
AND NOW WE ARE HERE
AND WE ARE LEGION
AND WE ARE READY
NOW YOU'D BETTER LUBE UP, BECAUSE HERE COMES THE HORN!

>70357170
homosexual hands wrote this post

>>70357170
>proceed to get shat on Xitter, Leddit, and Youtube
>retreat back to this cesspit of a board
oh yeah you're real threatening alright

>>70357193
don't even start with accusations of homosexuality in this thread when it was made by a god damn kenzoku of all fucking people

>>70357245
>proceed to get shat on Xitter, Leddit, and Youtube
I repeat, I can go ahead and link you examples of the opposite happening on literally all of those websites
I said this to you the last time you made this post(verbatim btw), but you ignored it.

>>70352448
Gura is superior in every way. I'd rather watch 1 Gura stream per month than Bae every single day. She's a used up cumdump, why can't she cream her pants over the homos on her own time and jeep it off my screen?

>70357256
homosexual hands wrote this post

>>70352448
Kys sister.your opinion is worthless

>>70352783

>>70357256
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_symbols

>>70357170
Based

>>70357314
>I repeat, I can go ahead and link you examples of the opposite happening on literally all of those websites
By all means. Go ahead.

>>70352448
It's obviously the sister false flagging, I don't give them a thought though. tldr grow some skin, and don't bother other opinion

>70357356
I'm pretty sure you'll just default to some scripted response to this too, but for for reference, you do know that that whole omitting the (You) thing comes off as incredibly childish in this context, right

>>70352448
>See a thread on Bae's concert
your fault
>Most of the replies call it underwhelming
it was
>EVERY critical reply mentions the homos
it would still be mid, but homos just made it about them.
>Most of the thread is about the homos
homos are the problem
>Some of the replies go as far as to tout grifter girl gura as a superior idol
she is
>When did the board get so bad?
nothing has changed
>Do you guys unironically hold these braindead opinions, or is everyone just here to troll?
yes, and yes.

>>70357528
>>it would still be mid, but homos just made it about them.
(You) started that. lol
>>homos are the problem
(You) are the problem.

>>70357661
Proof next thread

>>70352448
たぁ!中出しするぞ!

>>70352448
hey those posts were yours, werent they?

>>70352448
What do you expect? She's the 3rd in most hated /vt/ list

>>70357403
・"God brought them out of Egypt; he hath as it were the strength of an unicorn."—Numbers 23:22
・"God brought him forth out of Egypt; he hath as it were the strength of an unicorn."—Numbers 24:8
・"His glory is like the firstling of his bullock, and his horns are like the horns of unicorns: with them he shall push the people together to the ends of the earth."—Deuteronomy 33:17
・"Will the unicorn be willing to serve thee, or abide by thy crib? Canst thou bind the unicorn with his band in the furrow? or will he harrow the valleys after thee? Wilt thou trust him, because his strength is great? or wilt thou leave thy labour to him? Wilt thou believe him, that he will bring home thy seed, and gather it into thy barn?"
—Job 39:9–12
・"Save me from the lion's mouth; for thou hast heard me from the horns of unicorns."—Psalms 22:21
・"He maketh them [the cedars of Lebanon] also to skip like a calf; Lebanon and Sirion like a young unicorn."—Psalms 29:6
・"But my horn shalt thou exalt like the horn of the unicorn: I shall be anointed with fresh oil."—Psalms 92:10
・"And the unicorns shall come down with them, and the bullocks with their bulls; and their land shall be soaked with blood, and their dust made fat with fatness."—Isaiah 34:7
As for your quote:
>Some argue that the gender fluidity of the unicorn makes it a suitable representation of the LGBT community. In ancient myths, the unicorn is portrayed as male, whereas in the modern times, it is depicted as a female creature
Congratulations, you have been PSYOP'd away from what has been the eternal virtue that all women are, and should be judged by, throughout all of history and by all great men; maidenhood. And it is men who determine that.
You're a fool and a convenient one at that. Get the fuck out of here, cuck.

>>70357995
Make me, faggot. You're all talk and no bite.

>70357471
dainty ass homosexual hands wrote this post

>>70352448
>gura as a superior idol
Yes, about 50 times the Idol Bae pretends to be.

>>70352630
braindead buzzword spam from dusk to dawn

>>70352584
>#monkeys
Kek someone seething because the kween of vtubing lost despite all the botting, embedding and homepage placement the second the stream started

>>70354518
>Ame, Kronii, and Vesper acted like psychos
do you see this thread? the state of this board? do you see what YOU posted? what ame said was passive-aggressive at worst and you fucking niggers act like she barged into your home and killed your mother. do you have ANY self-awareness when you say they're the ones who acted like psychos?

>Watch Bae concert as VOD
>mildly entertained, she's good at dancing, although more in the whoreish western way
>homos show up
>skip to Towa without even hearing the first syllable
>rest of the concert is okay I guess
>some voice actress shows up with a payed for voice message
>UUUUWAAAAA- nope. idgaf, so skibbity
>merch shilling, Bae still mindbroken about the VA
>half-assedly shills her merch,
>"I never wanted to sell a daki but here you go, I guess"
It was an okay if not forgettable concert. Nothing in it that would make me rewatch. It also reminded me why Bae never was and never will be oshi material. She constantly talks about an "idol journey" but behaves like a KPOP star or something. She salivates over male colleagues since day one, would rather continue the meme of "Yagoo saved me" instead of mentioning the bratz (?) and their support in even one of her short clips and presents merch that clearly gets the average holofan exited as some sort of necessary evil.

>>70352448
I respect Bae's efforts. Still not going to watch her though. I tuned in once and she said nothing for like 3 minutes.
>being a faggot and trying to deflect on Gura
Not sure how she's grifting. She has nothing else except for Hololive, and does absolutely nothing else that isn't for Hololive.

>>70352448
ohnonono homo bros why do they hate us

>>70358244
you reek of newfag

>>70357403
Unicorns have been always about purity, thats why only virgin maidens could tame one.

Modern whatever can try to hijack whatever, but that shitnprobably originated about mylittlepony or if not because of a more dark subversion of the meaning of unicorn, one more siegfreudian.

>>70358409
dumbass nigga I've been around since /jp/ you stupid fuck

>>70357433
I mean, if you insist lol. Let me grab one example of each.
>Youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_kZ1WSpJBg
Literally just take a scroll through the comments
>L*ddit:
/r/Hololive
...all of it, lmao. It's been so thoroughly unicornified that homo posts get auto-deleted and the few that survive are only the ones manually re-instated after a few hours, which is an extremely rare occurrence. And those posts will often have anywhere between 400-600 downvotes despite not breaking 4k digit upvote counts(based on upvote percentage:upvote count ratio math. And that's just the ones who are both on reddit, on it at the right time, and aren't too lazy to bother downvoting)
>Xitter
Here's a recent chain: https://twitter.com/BunniNor/status/1759941680394899824
There was a much bigger chain roughly a month back started by a female vtuber but I'd have to put effort into digging around for it and I CBF to do that atm, but maybe this will help you reconsider your retarded perspective hmm?

I don't watch males but if my oshi collabs with one I'll still watch it for her and not start hating her. I have to imagine this is the real stance of 95% of the people here regardless of shitposting

>>70357245
Those wokie faggot don't bring profit, you saw the result of homobeggar

>>70358515
>youtube
a bunch of beggars complaining that fuwamoco were silent getting dunked on? doesn't prove shit
>reddit
mods are trying their hardest to keep homos in the hololive subreddit

>>70352448
The board never did anything wrong, it was Cover launching Tempus that derailed everything. Don't even try to argue with that you know it's true

>>70358515
NTA but holy shit go the fuck outside. Your mother didn't squeeze you out of her cunt for you to end up this pathetic and pitiful.

>>70352448
Towa should marry me
i will buy her all the fags she wants

>>70358567
holy esl

>>70358639
NTA but your mother has a freaky cunt so I can understand how a la creatura like you came out of that axe wound. Stay home and dont post anymore. Verification not required.

>>70358585
seethe about it

>>70358047
An eternal rule of power is that the dark side begets faster and more addictive growth early on
And yet the converse to that trope is that while the white magic grows steadily, it will always outpace the power of the darker forces in the end.
This is your place in this story. You will lose to faith once again, a repeating of your history since time immemorial. And the reason you will lose will always be the same. By throwing away your faith, you threw away your desire to truly stake your life for something.
I am ready to die to defend the sacred places of the earth. You threw everything away only to become just another lowly beast.
Now, enough of your hollow words.

>>70358515
>YouTube
Containment breakers have been disliked and pushed to the bottom of the comments section. Anti-unicorn sentiment is deleted. Pro-Homo and Pro-Holo are left up.
>Leddit
>>All of it
Not all. Only the ones homobegging. Discussion about official Collabs with homos get high upvotes and are not deleted.
>Xitter
Context about Yuko Yurei suddenly changing her content. A good example but what about those on the Holo side? One example for each does not discount the negative perspective of people towards the rude behaviour you freaks exhibit daily.

>>70358515
It's amazing, even normalfags have all turned on homobeggars and anti-unicorns because of how cringe and insane they've been.

>>70359026
>Wall of cringe
All talk. No bite. Lock your door asshole. You'll never know who'll pull up.

>>70358585
>a bunch of beggars complaining that fuwamoco were silent getting dunked on? doesn't prove shit
I can see that you didn't actually read through the comments proper
>mods are trying their hardest to keep homos in the hololive subreddit
Are you now living in an alternate reality? Just go through that one watamates posting history throughout the last few months to see just how unpopular "pro-unicorn" posts are
Honestly, you're being delusional

>>70359026
>>70359102
Just fuck already you raging faggots

>>70358639
You can go back now

>>70352448
Anon, you're on /vt/. No one on this board watches streams or cares about vtubers. This board exclusively exists for drama nonsense and bitching.

>>70352448
she made her bed and is glad to sleep in.

>>70352448
>males
No way fag!

>>70359047
>Anti-unicorn sentiment is deleted
Yes retard, but being deleted by the official channel does not negate the existence of those people being around nor the fact that they got extremely high numbers of upvotes before being deleted.
>Containment breakers have been disliked and pushed to the bottom of the comments section.
And tell me anon, how long and concerted of an effort did it take before that even began to happen? By my count, it was almost a week. A co-ordinated continuous raid needed a fucking week, backed heavily by literal channel owner moderation, in order to change the comment section from a naturally-occuring literal endless wall of pro-unicorn commentary.
So no, your "everybody hates unicorns" excuse doesn't fucking fly here. That sort of circumstance doesn't justify your conclusion. A bunch of homobegging discords do not constitute the majority, and are in fact farther from the majority than unicorns.

>>70352448
I called it underwhelming.
I think that was a pretty polite answer to the question what i thought about the concert. I didnt say it was bad, i said it was underwhelming.
>homo's, gura, #'s
Yes, this is /vt/. This board was always bad. You were just young and naive when you first came here last month.

I stand by my initial post that it was an underwhelming experience. That is my honest opinion. And like anon in that thread told me
>dont be a faggot and say what you want coward
So there.

>>70359047
>Not all. Only the ones homobegging. Discussion about official Collabs with homos get high upvotes and are not deleted.
lol
you are a few months out of date

>>70358244
say that again without crying sister. those whores doubled down and antagonized the fanbase for no reason

>>70358585
>>70358639
>asks for proof
>gets proof
>seethes uncontrollably

>>70354426
>product nobody here wanted
>disliked
No way!

>>70352631
Literally the only interesting thing about vtubers is the drama. The porn comes close but might as well be of any anime girl. Or are you readily admitting to watching married women pretend to be your anime gamer gf for its own sake?

>>70359975
Femanon show me titties

>>70352448
I don't even watch movies or tv shows with men in them.

>monkeys on both sides continue to shit-fling their low IQ arguments against one another.
People don't know how to enjoy things anymore

>>70359862
Right? The funniest part is that I trend to collect examples of this stuff over time in order to be able to reference them in future conversations, but when I end up arguing with someone who absolutely REFUSES to admit that their world view is wrong no matter what evidence they're shown, I just see no reason to bother. In the end they will always weasel word around everything. It's pathetic.

>>70353970
newfag
you don't even remember when people who used the word "simp" in /jp/ were told to go back
you're a fucking homobeggar discord factory produced shitstain and your lack of real knowledge makes you stand out like a target.

>>70359862
because it's flimsy proof

>>70360279
You will call any proof besides the patently ridiculous kind "flimsy"
You didn't even read the full text of my post because you sure as hell didn't address it point by point, only soundbites(your addressing of them, by the way, had no proof, which in all cases would be considered worse than "flimsy")

>>70358515
that silence shit on the youtube comments was something else, and yet i have not seen an actual tempus fan comment about it.
it's full of FWMC "fans" just gloating. shit like "stood their ground and shit", yikes.

>>70360275
>your lack of real knowledge makes you stand out like a target
takes one to know one jackass

>>70360446
Because a starsfan never shat on any of the hologirls. There's your difference.

>>70360446
>yet i have not seen an actual tempus fan comment about it.
hundreds of the more antagonistic comments have been deleted, and a lot of people used dummy accounts in the first place.
Nonetheless, a dramatuber made a video complaining about it while blaming unicorns. He cited "Twitter outcry" as his source for the "drama". The comments under his video are just so wonderful and respectful, too.

>>70360446
I mean is it so unbelievable that some of the girls in Holo want nothing to do with the males? Unless it’s written in their contract “must shill males whenever we ask” I really don’t get what the fuss is was about. The guys get plenty of love from the other girls anyway

Homobeggers are pathetic
Unicornchads own you

>>70359378
>they got extremely high numbers of upvotes
oh yes, 400+ people is extremely high, of course and the "highest" comment is found at the bottom of the section, curious
that's the estimated number of containment breakers that come from /here/

I'll be real, I don't give a fuck about Holostars, I just don't want them to interact with Hololive. If that happened I would literally never, ever, ever have to think of men other than me ever again while watching hololive. Literally paradise.

>>70359378
>So no, your "everybody hates unicorns" excuse doesn't fucking fly here.
It really doesn't because this is the only shit hole you can run freely, you'll be ridiculed everywhere else.
>A bunch of homobegging discords do not constitute the majority, and are in fact farther from the majority than unicorns.
Nobody said the homobeggars were the majority either retard. The fact stands both groups are minorities. Actual fans don't care who they collab with they just wanna see their oshi have fun instead of thinking about cuckoldry dynamics.

>>70360500
Yeah it's just the clipwatching virtue signalers. Unfortunately, the anti males are using them to shit on the actual tempus fans too, ah well.
Call me when Arenei, Jellybeans or any of the other actual tempus fans are shitting on the girls.
>>70360549
>using alts
No doubt about it. Even Kronii called those out when it was her turn.
>>70360562
It's not, and they don't have to, and that's okay. Applies to the boys too, seen some of the newest one even reject the idea of associating with them.

>>70360634
Cuck

>>70360500
I have it on good authority that about half of all the posts anti'ing the girls for being homocollabers are just jealous reverse unicorns

>>70360574
I too like to use a single instance of an event to define the scope event instead of simply using it to acknowledge the existence of said event

>>70352682
If you want consolation it's not like any of these terminally online retards pull any pussy or venture offline, hell, why not beat on them for Fun and the fuck of it? They're pretty easy to spot

Deprive them and feast More

>>70360562
>I mean is it so unbelievable that some of the girls in Holo want nothing to do with the males?
You'd be surprised how many people didn't expect Fuwamoco to be on there. People are more concerned about Fuwamoco joining in there knowing full well the homos will show up in a trailer for Holofes when someone like Mori could've just stepped in or even just those Bae and Ina.

>>70360708(me)
scope of an event*

>>70360708
Glad to know you admit it.

>>70360692
>destroyed by facts and logic
>only reply is "cuck"
Thanks for conceding defeat, tardicorn.

>>70360696
That breed is called a femcorn and it's equally bad.

>>70360721
Hey, Kanata got fucked over by her manager into that whole Minecraft shitshow.
I feel like there is probably some level of disconnect between the people organizing events and the people who know the talents, and while it isn't always a major issue, it's exactly the sort of thing that can lead to these kinds of mismatches.

>>70360809
>mucho texto invalidated by one word
Lmao get destroyed cuck

>>70360753
I wish you luck in the future my man because God knows you need a lot of it to make up for the lobotomy

>>70360863
>Hey, Kanata got fucked over by her manager into that whole Minecraft shitshow.
Do you-
>I feel like there is probably some level of disconnect between the people organizing events and the people who know the talents, and while it isn't always a major issue, it's exactly the sort of thing that can lead to these kinds of mismatches
Well if that's the case then the manager is to blame for these blunders. At the very least there's less of those now.

>>70360809
cuck

>>70359102
Nobody's taking a single poster that's associated with LGBTQ, anime and bitching about virtual whores seriously, much less, one whose never had his/her jaw split being chronically online

>>70360879
>>70360939
>>70360809

>>70360974
>a seething cuck now
Lmao

>>70352836
This. I hate them and him so fucking much. Containment breakers are living scabs.

idk what you guys are arguing but unicorns are the good guys and male vtubers have to be destroyed before they destroy all of vtubing.

I'm going to fuck Bae and Towa

>>70361023
>>70360974

>>70361039
So true king

>>70354132
Holy fucking retard. Try reading a dictionary every now and then.

>>70361039
>idk what you guys are arguing but unicorns are the bad guys
fixed

>>70361023
>>70360939
>>70360879
>Lost to a logical argument
>Mentally damaged to the point that his only word is cuck
Man that's sad, hope you get out of the ward someday friend.

>>70360634
>Actual fans don't care who they collab with they just wanna see their oshi have fun instead of thinking about cuckoldry dynamics.
ACTUAL fans are a mostly single young 95% male audience watchiing attractive anime girls exclusively while the anime girls play up the features that make them attractive to men(i.e. being cute, relatable, etc)
Your insistence on the lack of gendered dynamics existing in vtubing is so out of touch that I don't even think you watch vtubers at all.
Give me a break

>>70352584
Based

>>70361312
>Your insistence on the lack of gendered dynamics existing in vtubing is so out of touch that I don't even think you watch vtubers at all.
Please, a single group does not define a genre. It will be shaped by whichever group has the most influence. Everything changes, dipshit.

Besides. While you said that actual fans do want to watch cute girls, you didn't deny about those same fans not caring who they collab with.

>>70361207
cuck

>>70361452
cuck

>>70361207
Cuck

>>70361452
>>70361124

>>70361452
>>70361469
>>70361482

>>70358323
what a braindead fucking take am suprised you can write paragraphs that long

>>70361439
>a single group does not define a genre
it does when every other group may as well be a rounding error you fucking retard.
>Everything changes, dipshit.
It ain't broke, dipshit
>While you said that actual fans do want to watch cute girls, you didn't deny about those same fans not caring who they collab with.
by their probably wanting to watch cute girls, and probably not watching guys, occams razor cuts your piss poor edge case hypothetical to shreds

>>70361482
>>70361512
cuck

they hated >>70352682 for saying the truth

>>70361586
>it does when every other group may as well be a rounding error you fucking retard.
By your standards, this is a stupid argument.
>It ain't broke, dipshit
It's happened before retard, it'll happen again. Nothing stays the same forever.
>by their probably wanting to watch cute girls, and probably not watching guys, occams razor cuts your piss poor edge case hypothetical to shreds
Not watching guys does not equal to shitting on the guys every chance they get like you idiots. They see mixed collabs like any other collab and the only ones throwing leftist-tier outrage are you freaks.

>>70361614
>>70361512

>>70361718
cuck

>>70352448
It doesn't matter unicornchads stay winning.

>>70352448
You crying about people's opinion makes you sadder than most here.

I don't even like homocollabs but you can't deny the autistic unicorns ruined this hobby

>>70361951
Unicorns were here before you

>>70352448
here you go
/thread
don't bother arguing with these retards, one guy even admitted samefagging due to his mental illness rumao

>>70361971
Stop lying newfag, your kind was bullied to hell in /jp/ to now this place before the homoEN debuts

>>70361993
I made this post

>>70352448
>me when a holo invites boring males for her 3d live
https://youtu.be/2aSHYRN3AVU

>>70362039
Thank you anon. the homobeggar sisters was incredibly annoying before but now the unicorn antis are just as annoying.

>>70361971
No they weren't lol

>>70361683
>By your standards, this is a stupid argument.
I fail to see how but please do explain.
>It's happened before retard, it'll happen again. Nothing stays the same forever.
The only time period in which unicornism wasn't a recognizable constituency in vtubing was extremely early on. The audience itself may have shifted between corporations over time(albeit slowly, most cases being spurred by controversy as opposed to natural developments), but once "idol"-branded corporations began to crop up, unicorns came in and they have been here ever since. Learn your history before you lecture.
>Not watching guys does not equal to shitting on the guys every chance they get like you idiots. They see mixed collabs like any other collab and the only ones throwing leftist-tier outrage are you freaks.
You're a fucking idiot who conveniently ignores a continuous pattern of intermittent outcries that go back all the way to 2019. Your obstinance might feel good to believe, but it does not and has not reflected reality for going on 5 years now. For reference, that is almost the entire time period that V-Tubing as a live-stream dominated field has existed. Once again, don't speak of history when you are woefully underequipped to discuss it.

>>70361993
Does Kanata actually state that she is the viewers girlfriend? Genuine question, I don't watch her much outside lives/karaoke. Thought she was supposed to be a raging lesbian.

>>70362180
she's my girlfriend, specifically me don't forget that

>>70361770
>>70361718

>>70362180
she's my girlfriend, specifically me. don't believe anyone else.

>>70362142
NTA but using thesaurus doesn't make your opinions less retarded, not how it works.

>>70362116
lol

>>70362231
dinosaurs aren't real anon

>>70362231
Did I not use enough buzzwords for your SEAmonkey brain to understand my post?
Apologies
Cope, seethe, dilate, sneed, etc

>>70362331
fuck you this is a shitflinging thread, you're not supposed to be funny

>>70352448
I think it always was braindead, but consider
1) Bae always talked about the homos and interacted with them on occasion. Her fangirling for roberu is ON HER DEBUT VIDEO.
2) The ndf is still out in force.

>>70352448
I'll give you an answer irregardless of homos/tribalfagging etc

+Anons are usually high on negative emotions.
+Autism/OCD/rigid ways of thinking
+/vt/ and gacha generals specific issue: this place is filled with underage SEAs and for some god forsaken reason they tend to behave like a muslim version of /r9k/ supreme gentlemen, incels, or whatever the fuck they are called now
+Facebook and twitter have conditioned normalfag invaders into turning everything they touch into an endless banter, gotcha, arguing, complaining and such. All every zoomer in the internet has ever known is mostly arguing, imaginary word battles, dopamine replies/likes, and porn.
+redditfags and discordfags have been buckbroken by their mod overlords into compliance and they come here to feel like epik/based rebels
+or because they read 4chan greentexts on their horrendous sites and think this is place is just for shitposting.

That's the reason for most "discussions" here.

>>70362331
kek, I lost

>>70362034
The irony of this post
You homoposters were such a menace that you were routinely told to fuck off at every conceivable opportunity
I would know; I was one of the ones telling you to fuck off
Especially the Astel posting faggot
Your beggarcord bulletin board needs to re-visit some of the points it lists, because they aren't going to work on the few of us oldfags who were there and posting before you goblinoids even knew what vtubing was

I enjoyed the live, but I would have enjoyed it more without the homos.

I just don't watch vtubers to see guys. I'm solely here for cute virtual anime girl idols and that's it. It's that simple.

>>70361586
>I fail to see how but please do explain.
Defining every other group as a mathematical miscalculation is a biased point of view considering you're circle jerking about how "unicorns can do no wrong" when every other group has flaws. Unicorns harass male vtubers and this is a concept embraced by the wider whole and that this garbage heap of a board turns a blind eye to.
>The only time period in which unicornism wasn't a recognizable constituency in vtubing was extremely early on. The audience itself may have shifted between corporations over time(albeit slowly, most cases being spurred by controversy as opposed to natural developments), but once "idol"-branded corporations began to crop up, unicorns came in and they have been here ever since. Learn your history before you lecture
Cover Corp was an idol branded Corp since 2016 and I have not seen the staggeringly large influence of unicorns till HoloFantasy first debuted. Nijisanji didn't have unicorns then either and they were first touted as an idol-branded company before they ditched that in 2018 once JP women saw the appeal of Kuzuha. None of the Unicorns were hostile then until Holostars debuted in 2019.
>You're a fucking idiot who conveniently ignores a continuous pattern of intermittent outcries that go back all the way to 2019. Your obstinance might feel good to believe, but it does not and has not reflected reality for going on 5 years now. For reference, that is almost the entire time period that V-Tubing as a live-stream dominated field has existed. Once again, don't speak of history when you are woefully underequipped to discuss it.
Don't go talking about history if your stance is so one-sided retard. You say they're intermittent? Every mixed Collab with JP is ALWAYS met with outrage from the JP freaks for fear of their precious girls being taken by the homos. When HolostarsEN debuted in 2022 that's when you shitheads ramped up your campaign in this retarded board about "hate male chuubas" and constantly containment break everytime someone posts homoshit in official holochannels. And when the homos collabed with the girls, you retards jump in the chats harassing them like the twitter mob. Telling them to "stay in their lane" when you don't follow your own advice. Associating "homobeggars" with Starmin and defining them as "Nijifans" when they have not slandered any of the Hologirls compared to the delusional schizophrenic rampage that you and your ilk like to tout so proudly.
But by all means. Keep it up and soon everyone will know who the worst kinds of fans are. It happened with Niji's femicorns and it'll happen to the Holocorns too. Nobody's untouchable.

>>70362414
Nah, understood it just fine, that's how I know it is retarded.
>seethe, dilate, sneed
This, on the other hand, is some troon lingo I would prefer you to refrain from using outside your wretched community

>>70362671
you can write alot but clearly you can't fucking read >>70361951
> I don't even like homocollabs
I don't even like homocollabs
> I don't even like homocollabs
I don't even like homocollabs
> I don't even like homocollabs

here you fucking go, made sure you don't miss it next time
> oldfags
you're just old with bad eyesight

>>70360634
>Actual fans don't care who they collab with they just wanna see their oshi have fun instead of thinking about cuckoldry dynamics.

How are you even getting people to debate you earnestly after going "anyone who doesn't want male collabs isn't a REAL fan"

I do not enjoy watching homosexuals, go to /cm/ or some shit if you want faggy shit

>>70362596
You are off on point 3 and if you actually paid attention to how discussions shift across time zones you would have realized a long time ago that SEA posters are some of the most virulent homobeggars/anti-unicorns.
Pro-unicorn posting peaks in NA hours.
I would've thought that the state of Holo ID and Kobo in particular would clue people into that anyway but I suppose everybody loves to pretend that unicorns are somehow based in some kind of caliphate tier thinking despite female entertainers making themselves seem available has been a mainstay of the entertainment industry throughout history. Yes, even in the west. For a historical example, look at Disney. For a more modern example, look at the one Bernie girl who revealed that she had a boyfriend and her ensuing sub loss. There's plenty of others besides. Even OnlyFans models are purported to be more successful if they portray themselves as single. And those are literal whores.
Female chastity has been a near universal virtue since time immemorial. Males feeling threatened by other males getting close to women they like has been a thing since time immemorial. There is no coincidence here. This is what human beings are.

>>70352448
I watched the first half of it and didn't feel the kino, sorry

>>70362855
>Post a quote together with a complete misinterpretation.
Are you trying to demonstrate the depth of your retardation here?

>>70362955
you could have just said " I am a massive faggot that think male collabs = having sex on stream" and we will get your point anon

>>70362855
>"anyone who doesn't want male collabs isn't a REAL fan"
If you got that from "fans don't care who their oshi Collabs with because they want to have fun" which means that they can Collab with girls or boys from their corp or from other corps if they want, then you're the one who needs to go take a reading comprehension class in the fifth grade, fucking retard. Get off the computer, drink a cyanide pill and take your own miserable life down to hell.

>>70362766
You don't like homocollabs but also dislike the reason that they occur at a much lower frequency?
You realize that for all the rowdiness of unicorns, even now they for the most part rarely get brought to your attention if you actually just focus on watching fucking streams?
Their influence is invisible to somebody who simply chooses to disengage with community discussion. They will of course influence the vtubers themselves, because everybody in this industry egosa's, but it's not as if chuubas are out there making a habit of discussing what they saw. Or if they are, it's through occasional vague-posting at best.

>>70362955
>y-you're brown!
How sad sophistry is the only defense you have

>>70362718
>that's how I know it is retarded.
compelling argument

>>70363205
Please learn English and then read my post again.

>>70363109

>>70363350
>mori yelling at kiara.png

>>70362955
Well I mixed /vt/'s behavior with gacha general behavior which has had since FGO JP release years ago, both an above average amount of asians and SEA, and a consistent trend of REEEE MALES MUH VIRGINS.
Compared to gamers for traditional RPGs or other kinds of genre, it stands out.
And /vt/ reminds me of the same thing, when compared to things like /a/nime where people like characters regardless of sex (code geass, haruhi, etc) and again, the REEEE only happens in the JP sphere (aya hirano, kanagi nonvirgin etc)

>>70363126
Correct, they can't. Collabs with guys for fun are simply not acceptable to me and you thinking otherwise doesn't change that nor make me a fake fan. I've been membered to multiple holos for years, buy merch, send scs, watch everything, the whole thing.

If any of them were to do such male collabs I'd most likely drop them after the 2nd or 3rd time.

>>70363494
Then end it there. The point is actual fans don't go around harassing talents just because they don't like their choice of Collabs.

>>70363430
It moved to the EN sphere at some point. Fact of the matter is. Gachafags that attempt to play a game whose source material has males in them only set themselves up to be flames. Gachafags when FGO JP got released at the time got dunked on by Nasunerds who don't tolerate they behaviour.

>>70363190
when did I say I hate that they occur at a much lower frequency?
I don't watch homos
I don't watch homocollabs period
But your kind (unicorns) is the reason Hololive fans get branded as a toxic community

> Their influence is invisible to somebody who simply chooses to disengage with community discussion
black swan fallacy and so was communism until it wasn't.

political extremist idiots that are on your side are part of the problem and you should realize that.
actively shitting on homocollabers ( That is otherwise innocent and harmless) has become a part of your culture and that actively nauseates and disgusts me and I am pretty sure I am not alone on this sentiment that "unicorn purists" have become as annoying as the previous homobegging sisters that flooded this godforsaken board.

> tldr. The unicorn posting is not that bad..
it is that bad clear your fucking eyes and see the two sides of the road your are on.

>>70363603
Where did you get the harrassing from? I'd just leave, not become an anti.

>>70352448
TBF it was a pretty eh concert, nothing against bae, but i feel like the anons that were hype over it are just excited because we don't get many en concerts and have never seen jp concerts.
Not going to be cheering over newfags spam posting on my threads tyvm

>>70352630
lurk for 10000 years before posting again

>>70363759
Oh no, twitch normalfags and other unwanted nijitrash would think of us as "toxic" for not doing the same mixed collab garbage everyone else does.
I sure hope this doesn't lead to those kind of twitchkids and redditors not entering the holo fandom!

every single problem on this board can be traced back to NijiEN
constant bait threads about HoloEN? Only truly picked up after Ethyria debuted (barring Kiara who always had insane schoizos)
deranged anti Holostars posting everywhere imaginable, holo vs holo, etc.? After Luxiem sisters showed up
You are drinking mind poison brewed up by NijiEN organs and fans to make you hate anything Hololive as much as possible

>>70363768
Some unicorns don't think that's enough.

>>70363768
sadly you are part to blame by association. No self respecting man anyway will call himself a unicorn anyway as it is a derogatory term in it roots from the Idol industry.

Bae fans are always the most buttmad about the fact that no one (colloquially) likes holostars. Strawman all the imaginary unicorns from shitposts here you want, but it won't change the fact that Bae's lack of popularity primarily comes from how normalized her interactions are with dudes. So of course people write her off without giving her a chance. It's pretty fucked up but I can't find the piss and vinegar to get mad about it when holostars suck anyways and it takes almost no effort to just not interact with them.

>>70363888
reminder that Niji organs are TERMINALLY here and have a FINANCIAL interest in Hololive being smeared and degraded
Shitting on Hololive is part of their JOB

>>70363719
I think this is connected to the isekai craze in anime, and people nowadays being incapable of not self-inserting in a story. So if the girl isn't interested in the MC or another male appears, they feel personally wronged. I wonder were all this is coming from psychologically/socially. It didn't use to be like this. This is a zoomer issue.

/vt/ mimics this phenomena because the streamer talks to the plural audience (>We) and this seems to trick the brain. Also the Gosling self-insertion thing.

Vesper riled up unicorns so much it's just out of control now. Previously if a girl collared with homos you'd just not watch her. Now because of vesper unicorns think males are actively taunting them. It's ironic because vesper was literally gay but also a gigantic retard.

>>70364019
>hololive
so shitting on holostars is fair game

>>70363913
I wouldn't call myself a unicorn because I don't care about their past, nor do I mind them having say male dance teachers or vocal coaches or w/e.
I just don't want male collabs on stream and any that aren't mandated for shill or event reasons would be grounds for me to drop someone over it.

>>70364008
Why is it unicorns get so assmad from a declaration made 3 years ago when homobeggars backed off a day after Kanata said she won't Collab with males?
Could it be that Unicorns are the one seething eternally?

You don't get to have a culture with people you're trying to kill? Seriously, what? You're trying to overturn the country we live in and are whining we won't play anime with you. Uh, honey? I'm going to cut you open and show you your own internal organs. A californian court ruled that the black minor who killed my father only commited "voluntary mansalughter" and proceeded to treat him like a prince. You not only don't get to have culture, you don't get to have a country, a place to live, a family or phyiscal safety. I'm seriously going to plan the social demise of every tranny and brownie who seems to be on the attack, you don't get to be around decent people. I'm going to protect all decent people from people like you.

I have gay friends who aren't anti-natalists, I have brown friends who aren't leftists, your culture is actually fucking collapsing before your eyes. Do you even wanna fuck bae? Real question.

>I think the picture is great reasoning, I agree with her
Her reasoning is why women, including those who choose to become women, are not and will never be in charge of society. If you find her reasoning impressive you will never lead a single thing.

>>70364008
> strawman all the imaginary unicorns

>>70292555
>>70292481
>>70292160
>>70291972
>>70291765
>>70292362
>>70291972
>>70291942
>>70292591
>>70292051

Here you go. I also didn't cherry pick this because i see this every single day on this board.

>>70364073
No it's because Kronii was a twitter grandstanding retard who got management and twitter trannies to attack them so now they are on an eternal combat footing

>>70364073
They use Niji logic and assume Tempus was going to be like Luxiem when that's far from the truth. Those guys have self-respect. So much so that two of them left because idol work and perms restrictions are tiring.

Holostars fans dont exist, every one of them is a nijinigger
While nijisanji has been involved in drama there have been nearly zero homo posts on the hololive reddit, whereas up until then they'd post every day and cry about the toxic fans not accepting them

>>70363841
Is that something to be proud of? Waisting your life away for this Taiwanese basket-weaving forum?

>>70364125
Almost none of those are unicorns, just posts calling out that she would have been better off not having guys there, which is true

>>70364125
>linking the same posts more than once
Sorry but your argument is invalid, please try again next year
Also I could very easily link to hundreds of posts about homobeggars wishing death on the unicorns/the girls, so I don't really see the point of this sort of shitflinging, people are going to be mad about anything

>>70363430
I can see understand coming to that conclusion for sure, but ultimately virtual youtubing has transformed into a whole different beast altogether in the end. A lot of the usual conventions have flipped. There's a lot of reasons for it; I personally could probably spend a good block of time rattling off key events and influences which built the current culture into what it is today, but 1) I've spent so much time banging my head against a wall in this thread already that I'm getting to the point where I don't care enough to and 2) I have been here a long ass time and have a great memory for what events shifted the culture towards my preferences(I am probably one of the oldest OG unicorns active enough to argue on this godforsaken hellhole), but I'm not so pompous as to think that my perspective would be infallible as opposed to my best attempt at compiling events that I consider corollary to eventual development of the current state of affairs.
I would simply say that it is best to consider the social conditions of the vtubing sphere to be its own beast. There are definitely events outside of vtubing that interplay with it, but without a firm grasp of the context of that interplay, it's very easy to misunderstand what their influence was.
I know that this might end up sounding a lot like "vtubing is a speshul snowflake ok!?", but it's less that vtubing itself is unique, and more that the circumstances it developed in were special. After all, remember that the v-tubing boom effectively co-occurred with the COVID lockdowns. Surely you can imagine that an explosive industry under those conditions could end up mutating into something that is unique in comparison to the stuff you compared it to.

>>70364227
> Almost none of those are unicorns
Thank you for telling me that am talking with a mentally inept retard.

>>70364109
>I'm seriously going to plan the social demise of every tranny and brownie who seems to be on the attack, you don't get to be around decent people. I'm going to protect all decent people from people like you. I have gay friends who aren't anti-natalists, I have brown friends who aren't leftists, your culture is actually fucking collapsing before your eyes.
It's this kind of supremacist thinking that jumpstarts the death of your culture. While I don't necessarily agree with the woman in the picture. This board is the best place to be hostile, what's not good is that you break containment and ruin it for someone else's, starting a cycle of hatred that will eventually lead to ruin.

You're gonna... "attack people that LOOKS like they're gonna attack? Paranoia.
You're gonna... "assume everyone on the opposite side is a whackjob and anyone who associates with them are just as crazy?" Propaganda.

Nijishitter vtubers are terminally here and shit on their biggest competition and you somehow fall for it

>>70364257
which is exactly my POINT.

homobeggers are annoying and they conveniently use Bae as a tool for their political agenda

unicorns are getting to the same level of annoying but worst because the actively shit on the talent without proper reason.

>>70364335
>seriously replying to a pasta
lol
lmao

>>70364197
Schizophrenia.

>>70364421
>homobeggers
literally don't exist on /vt/
they are pure cope fantasy made up by antis to have something to DNC with

>>70364508
They do exist on /vt/. Just not outside of /here/

>>70352448
>grifter girl gura
kys nijimonkey

>>70364508
>the girls should be allowed to collab with members of the opposite sex!
Kek, literally why

>>70364610
that makes no sense

>>70364257
>Homobeggars wishing death on the girls
I believe they do that with unicorns but on the girls? Interesting. Got any links?

>>70352836
Nah, that's bullshit. It was already full of turbovirgin schizos. That's what attracted people like Parrot to make videos about the insanity.

>>70352584
The homo defense never ceases to amaze me. You watch those homos? Then why do you care if people shit on them?

>>70352448
its called terminal shitposting

>>70364610
>>70364663
>samefag
>complete nonsense
okay retarded fuckass

>>70364708
Go back to your dead discord, parrotranny.

>>70364666
Let me rephrase that. Homobeggars are just Collab beggars but are straight shippers. This is the only place they can talk about it and they encompass a significant minority of Nijifans. They've tried doing this in the first months of Tempus debut but backed off after the blue homo put his foot down. So they rallied to Vesper and when he left, most of them fucked off back to Niji.

They don't stick around for the rest of the boys because they don't seem to show romantic interest to the hologirls. There's plenty of them on Xitter and YouTube. Hiding and talking about their ships whenever

>>70364855
Do I have psychosis or have I just never actually seen this happen?
From what I remember of the homo threads around their debuts it was basically lmao ew girls posting

>>70364727
It gives a reason to vilify and defame Unicorns therefore blaming them as the source of all their problems which is the consensus in the vtubing sphere.

>>70355514
>don't collab with homos because I'll shit my pants and screech like a retard!
>homo collab
>unicucks proceed to screech and pants-shit
>Look at what you've done!

>>70364915
Those are femicorns attempting to integrate into /MANS/ before they opened up their own split known as /cbdct/ but ever since Magni and Vesper left. /MANS/ became no different than /cbdct/ but there is resistance from OG posters telling them to fuck off.

>>70364125
Most of these aren't really unicorns, those are regular people that actually vocalize their distaste for mixed collaboration instead of pretending they like it because it makes them feel morally superior on Twitter. It's just a dumb argument in the first place though. If people wanted this stuff the numbers would reflect that.

>>70364751
wrong

>>70355514
3-4 screeching retards (always the same too) are not drama

>>70352448
>all those complains about homos
I warned you about unicorns son
>those comolaining about underwhelming
Those are sisters most likely

>>70364932
kek

>>70365004 (me)
Whoops, I've made the mistake of invoking the true name of the loathsome fiend and now anything I have to say has an easily available copypasta write off. Feel free, however.

nutty penis

OP are you surprised that most of the SEA cucks that hang out here are obsessed with other mans dick who have never so much as talked to a woman outside of their family?

These retards think that if a man and a woman make eye contact they legally need to have sex. Ignore them, they're mentally challenged.

>>70365004
>those are regular people that actually vocalize their distaste for mixed collaboration
sadly that is what you call now a "unicorn" around these parts, the same way it supposed to be that Idols should not be in a relationship "changed" into no male collabs.

>>70365126
Why would anon do this?

>>70364478
Give me you alternative explanation as to why holostars posts on the hololive reddit completely dried up at the same time as nijiniggers were busy running defence?
of course you cant because you are a nijinigger and your playbook is obvious

>>70352624
Good male streamers aren't vtubers

>>70365156
pop pop pop PEKAW! pop pop popop PEKAW!! po pop pop PENIS!!!! PEENISSSS!!!! PEEEE NIIIISSSSS!!!!!!1

>>70365182
they cum blood

>>70352448
>When did the board get so bad?
Uh, since the /jp/ days where homo watchers were shat on just as hard.
Thanks for contributing to the narrative that this place is filled with sensitive redditors and twitterfags though.

>>70364855
>they don't seem to show romantic interest to the hologirls
You have never watched any of their streams or collabs, there is no "romantic interest", just because your fujo brain has to ship all the time does not mean everyone else is like you.

>>70364727
I personally don't have much problem with shitting on homos (although don't see what they did to deserve it, so a bit strange).
Shitting on girls for their collab choices and general faggot hysteria are the reasons unitroons deserve the rope.

>>70365309
>Since /jp/
Unicorns were shat on just as hard you mean.

>>70365219
sanest unicorn

why do you guys make shit like this your whole personality? just watch the chuubas or don't, it's all cash

>>70353970
No, I don't remember

>>70365336
You are retarded if that's what (You) see. And I'm no fujo. In fact I'm not a shipper. And I have watched their streams, they've all been platonic in the mixed Collabs unless it's Axel x JP Indies every VCR

>>70352448
I say this genuinely: fuck off homobeggar

>>70365662
>they've all been platonic in the mixed Collabs
So was Vesper and Magni, there was never any "romantic interest" like i said. You implying so is disingenuous.

>>70365156
>Meanwhile you talk about raping holo on reddit with 1000+ updoot supporting it
Kek, no wonder they want to stay away from homo, especially homostar.
>unicorn on 4chan bad because they said bad thing
>but raping fantasy from homobeggar/shipper on reddit where everyone browser them is good

>>70365860
I say this genuinely: fuck off liver and go stream

>>70365063
Yet somehow most of hololive panders to the wishes of those people

>>70365983
lol lmao what?

funny how any and all posts "proving" holobeggars exist are from leddit and xitter
YOU are bringing this shit here to shit on Hololive and Holostars
no one here behaves like this
GO BACK

>>70365562
It isn't all cash though. The Homos have to be constantly gatekept or else they'll creep back in and cripple Holo EN again. Eternal vigilance is the price of CGDCT.

>>70366015
What the hell is a "holobeggar"?

>>70365929
So shitting on homocollabing talents is justified because homo fans are bad? kill yourself stupid nigger use your brain

Ooooohhhhhhhhh rough anal with Twappi

>>70366004
Even ame and kronii have stopped doing homocollabs it seems, because it's just not worth it

>>70366137
minor spelling mistake, I lose

>>70366141
Shitting on homocollabing talent is justified because it makes homocollabing unattractive and deters it.

>>70366057
You CGDCTfags sound exactly like CBDCTfags, you should look into that, might finally get you a girl, a menhera, but still female.

>>70366057
>I swear I'm different from homobeggers!

>>70366218
>You CGDCTfags sound exactly like CBDCTfags
Good, then CGDCTfags and CBDCTfags can work together to eradicate intergender collabs entirely

>>70366182
>Ame
Doesnt stream anyway, just like her wife
>Kronii
Only interested in Vesper, i dont think she has appeared in a mixed collab where he wasnt there.

>>70366057
Delusional Grand Schemes like this is one example of the pillars of a Fascist movement

>>70366057
This. CGDCT is what put Hololive on the map and they know it, hence why they still segregate stuff like MC servers by sex despite all their virtue signaling for "muh unity."

>>70366299
do you think vesper smashed

>>70366208
Shitting on anyone is unjustified unprompted, period. You should unironically kill yourself and I mean it. Hopefully you get killed if you won't do the job yourself

>>70366208
considering talents who do it continue to do it if they want to, you're doing fuck all aside from insulting some girls

>>70366208
>I swear we unicorns are different from those homobeggers who harass the talents!

>>70366218
Whats worse they both sound exactly like LGBTQWERTY crowd. Doubt it's a coincidence, even the acronyms are similar.

>>70363759
>But your kind (unicorns) is the reason Hololive fans get branded as a toxic community
...Good?
No, seriously. Explain to me why this is something I should care about. Please.
>black swan fallacy and so was communism until it wasn't.
Oh brother, now we're comparing unicorns to communists
How the fuck am I supposed to take this shit seriously when you jump the shark like this?
>political extremist idiots that are on your side are part of the problem and you should realize that.
While I can grasp the crux of your premise, can you PLEASE stop talking about this as if it is a policy debate
>actively shitting on homocollabers has become a part of your culture
>become
My man towa was called a whore ever since her fucking yab and she still is to this day and that wasn't even a collab
>(That is otherwise innocent and harmless)
Now THIS is possibly the only point in your entire post that I can me, but only halfway. Because you see, I used to mostly ascribe to this sentiment. But I have seen too much for my own good and have ended up being burned several times over as a result of the 'turning a blind eye' strategy. I was happier when I believed it worked, before I got burned by it. I do still believe in it for the most part, but at various points I've had the premise of "ignore the male collabers and there'll be no issue" challenged and ended up realizing that there is a nuance to it that must be taken into consideration for the sake of preserving what I enjoy. This paragraph in particular I wrote with a very depressed state of mind, because I wish it wasn't as complicated as its ended up being. And I know that somebody as angry as you about this will probably not be willing to listen in earnest to the explanations I'd offer for why it isn't as simple as it everybody would hope that it would be.
>actively nauseates and disgusts me and I am pretty sure I am not alone on this sentiment that "unicorn purists" have become as annoying as the previous homobegging sisters that flooded this godforsaken board.
And how do you think those same unicorns felt during the era of homocollabs?
How do you think the JPニキ unicorns feel nowadays? Have you seen how absolutely despondent they've occasionally gotten? When you have the main JOP discussion board literally clamoring 24/7 about Fuwamoco and oftentimes literally worshipping Jap as much as people do /here/, do you think that you're the only one who is suffering?
Do you think the girls who are unicorn friendly, like Kanata, enjoyed being essentially tricked by their manager into trying to purge her unicorns?
Do you think Nene enjoyed watching old time fans quietly disappear because her manager convinced her that she totally for sure absolutely needed to play FPS with guys on the other team in order to boost her numbers?(it didn't)
Do you think they enjoy reading about their fans disappointment in them, or if not even disappointment, simply passing statements that they simply can't enjoy they anymore as an oshi because of circumstances like that?
Do you enjoy it when anti-unicorn/anti-GFE browbeaters do their absolute fucking utmost to rip apart the well-earned and justifiable faith and trust the fans of such girls?
Does it disgust you too? Or is your disgust selective?
You're angry, sure. But maybe take a step back and recognize that the people who you're angry at might just be angry too, and for damn near the same fucking reasons that you have, but from a different light. It's easy to be upset. It's easy to get upset at others acting out on being upset. It's easy as shit to perpetuate that cycle. And as fans, we have only so much power. And that in itself can be a source of frustration.
I'm a unicorn myself simply because I see it as the most effective means of eventually attaining a situation where there is as peaceful of an environment as possible. Because I remember that environment. Back before JP collapsed into its current meta. I remember better days. And I want them back. Because people were happier back then.

>>70366208
I can say the same for homobegging sisters.
"homobegging is justified because unicorn pandering should be not tolerated"

Now can see the prejudice and distorted bias you see in this "invisible war" you partake on?

All I ask is for you to stop shitting on the talents, but if you continue to do it anyway, then unicorns will forever be an enemy of a fan like me that doesn't like to see pointless and hateful bicker on the holos we watch.

>>70366004
Honestly he's right, the only girls that still collab with Holostars at this point is Bae and sometimes Mori. The reason they don't collab with stars isn't because they agree with unicorns or something, they just don't want to deal with the shitstorm and problems it brings. Kiara said it herself, it's "bad for her mental health"

Considering that Bae's concert had pretty decent viewership for a kaigai talent in NA hours. I think her fans are idolchads who enjoy watching her concerts. What confuses me is why are unicorns offering their opinions about someone they explicitly claim to not support and watch because of their actions. This part doesn't make any sense to me. Why do they care and seethe so much?

>>70366424
Please get help or kys

>>70366316
Nah, Vesper is an actual fag might be why the girls are comfortable talking to him, women always got to have that gay friend.

>>70366409
>this acronym sounds like this unrelated acronym!
holy shit you got him, anon

>>70366424
Mucho texto

>>70366424
boomgey

>>70366424
Bro I don't like watching males but you sound like a faggot
Please take your meds

>>70366559
Not the acronym, moron. Their delusional ramblings. Just look at >>70366424

>>70366424
didnt read lol

>>70366502
Careful, Unicorns don't like it when you call Bae an idol (even if she is the very definition of one)

>>70366497
Or maybe they just don't want to? Why is it so hard to acknowledge the girl join hololive FOR hololive. While we heard directly from dinofag he join holostar because of hololive not because of holostar.

>>70366409
>CGDCTfags and CBDCTfags are also the alphabet mafia
>Both are mentally ill
>Both extremely narcissistic
>Both cant be reason with
You know, you might be on to something.

>>70366424
Weird how beggars are claiming this person's a schizo, yet they apparently can't form a rebuttal.
Was /vt/ right about how these holostars "fans" don't actually know anything about hololive?

>>70366424
This is all i had to see on your wall of text, you refuse to voice out your opinions in a civil manner and that is obvious on your long ass post. No wonder you never got the peace you had a long time ago when you defend your principles like this. You are blinded by rage and hatred that you refuse to see the points your enemies bring upon you, and you are baffled why they cannot understand you or where you are coming from.

>>70366620
Nta
>homofag doesn't watch homostar
Figures

>>70366424
> This is how we became toxic
> Now this how I justify our toxic actions
Gee what a long fucking text just say your an asshole and take the day off.
your parents could get killed by a homobeggar, that doesn't justify shitting on the holos just because they decided to collab with a fucking homo

>>70366424
>Because people were happier back then.
damn, why do I remember the same exact amount of dumb argument, bait and shitting on the girls then
when unicorns are not fighting homos they literally start tearing each other apart over increasingly ridiculous purity tests, which made the Hololive thread on /jp/ a doxx ridden shithole way before formation of /vt/

>>70366424
Why do you unicorn cucks lose it when homobeggers actively shit on girls who don't collab with homos while you are doing the same? I will never understand this

>>70366792
>how dare you discard my word vomit schizo post

>>70366424
in other words, everyone's fucking miserable because they have to share a fanbase with a group that they fucking hate.
much like the eventual heat death of the universe, this situation will continue until the hobby is ruined for both sides

>>70358515
Based BTFOer

>>70366896
the anon isn't even a beggar KEK mindbroken

>>70366792
>beggars
>Someone literally said they don't like watching males>>70366620
>(You): IGNORING THAT TO PUSH MY NARRATIVE
Freedom to be stupid, I love it

>>70366502
>idolchads
The name unicorn has be bastardized so much on this board, we have to make up a new term for actual unicorns. Also to answer your question some of them are definitely jealous Roberu femicorns.

>>70366424
Didn't read lmao
you're an incel rumao

>>70366792
Yes they don't watch them yet feel like they a part of the community by watching holo x homo collab. The only thing they watch.

>>70367006
based. I am an idolchad and Bae is perfect for me despite all the flaws any retards on this board point out

>>70366424
Done reading, based anon.

>>70366792
Why yes, someone who justifies their actions of unnecessary hate and shitting on someone is a schizo. That's the very definition of a schizo. I will continue to make fun of unicorn cucks who refuse to stay in their lane and actively defend their right to harass the talents.

>>70357170
In the name of the lord, there is nothing more pathetic than AI unicorn posters

>>70362596
>think this is place is just for shitposting
Every board is different and yes, /vt/ catalog has always been just for shitposting since day 1, dumb newfaggot. They would be completely correct.

>>70367069
wow nice reddit posts

>>70366424
Both sides are wrong, regardless this doesn't validate any harm on the holo chuubas that decide on their own will anyway but here we are regardless >>70364125

>>70367069
>filename
flip or indog?

>>70367163
>I will continue to make fun of unicorn cucks who refuse to stay in their lane and actively defend their right to harass the talents.
And they will continue to laugh at you as the homos continue to burn because 90% of their "fans" refuse to watch them.

>>70367410
>90% of their "fans" refuse to watch them.
you are insane

>>70367388
I will give you a hint, not a doxxer, doesn't hate hologirl

>>70367410
Too bad you are considered scum (for good reason)

>>70367410
how many times do i have to say this.
We care about the HOLOLIVE talents that do homocollabs but still get unnecessary hate from unicorn schizos. The homos can all graduate for all I care.

If I ever meet a Unicorn in real life, I will beat the living dogshit out of him

>>70367531
This is pointless, trust me, unitroons refuse to understand/accept it. Ruins the delusion.

>>70366424
I think I disagree with some of your points but I appreciate your attempt to discuss this topic genuinely. It's more than most people here can do when all they can do is screech and scream on one side or the other.

>>70367641
>genuinely
The guy is seething, are you new here?

>>70367641
the problem is that implying that people were "happier" before is disingenuous in itself, because when Tempus or even Stars weren't a factor, the same people just focused on the girls' perceived flaws or differences from the pack to shit on them

>>70367490
>Unicorns are considered scum
>they still almost always get their way and get pandererd to the most
I wonder how it must feel to see as an anti-unicorn. It's like some strange form of NTR, probably the same as a unicorn seeing a homo collab?
>>70367531
>The homos can all graduate for all I care
Wait why? I don't understand this sentiment, aren't they talents too?

>>70367531
>unnecessary hate from unicorn schizos.
Larping as a unicorn is not a crime retardchama. If you go on those thread during bae concert, for the most "unicorn centrist thread" they watching bae and skipped the homo part.

>>70367773
Is seething somehow disingenuous to you? Does it invalidate any nuance someone can have in their discussion when they care about something enough to get mad over it?

>>70367904
Yes

>>70367815
> Wait why? I don't understand this sentiment, aren't they talents too?
I couldn't give less of a fuck about them and if they are men, cyberbullying shouldn't be real to them

>>70367926
That's honestly really depressing to hear. I wish you the best, anon.

>>70366851
>you refuse to voice out your opinions in a civil manner and that is obvious on your long ass post.
Please point out to me where I wasn't civil in my post.
>No wonder you never got the peace you had a long time ago when you defend your principles like this.
My peace and the general sense of peace in the community is caused by something else entirely, but I don't think you'd care to hear me out on that at this point.
>You are blinded by rage and hatred that you refuse to see the points your enemies bring upon you
I am perfectly aware of where the opinions contrary to mine are coming from. I am not some heartless psychopath. The only thing I have ever cared about doing was trying to play whatever small part I can in fixing the various ills that have spread through the vtubing sphere in the methods that cause the least harm possible overall and bring it back to what it was once like, or as close as possible.

>>70367936
But why though? What makes them worthy of "unnecessary hate" but not the girls?

>>70367621
regardless, peace is my first option.

>>70367904
It is disingenuous, yes. If someone is mad about something, they're not looking for alternative viewpoints or trying to understand the other side. They just want to type out their inflated egos on the keyboard to feel good about themselves, NOT to have a real discussion with other people and consider other perspectives

>>70367985
they are males.

>>70367967
> methods that cause the least harm possible overall
It's not working anon better think of something new

>>70368022
Alright, so if you make that distinction in your head, then what's wrong with complaining about that their presence on stream?

>>70367967
>various ills that have spread through the vtubing sphere
The ills have spread in your head anon. Fix those first.

>>70368074
- their presence on THE GIRLS stream
Here's the problem anon

>>70368204
Yes, the girls' stream. What's wrong with complaining about their presence on the girls' stream?

>>70367967
you're an incel rumao

>>70368000
That is an absurd amount of projection. If someone is mad about something, that means they probably care about that something. Further generalize all you want to fit people into whatever shaped holes you need them to be to vilify them, but don't act like it's anything other than being equally stubborn and unwilling to hear another side.

>>70368238
it's no different from a backseating in a game
the girl choose how to conduct their content, you're just being an annoying retard by trying to direct how it goes, even if you think your way would be better/easier
no matter how hard some people try to push a narrative about the opposite, no one has any real problem about people who just silently tune out from content they don't like/care about

>>70366908
>shitting on the holos just because they decided to collab with a fucking homo
Please point to the part of my post where I claimed to shit on homocollabing holos. You jumped to a conclusion over a segment that I took great care to speak in extremely vague terms about in order to highlight that my conclusion was one of complicated nuance. "Shit on holos" is not a nuanced position. Put away your pitchfork, retard. Or don't and continue putting words in my mouth. I don't really care at this point.

>>70367967
Based principles haver, but you're giving too much ground to someone who said you're blinded by rage yet was so pissed off by your post that all they did was go after the motivations and not the argument. You're just going to get the runaround that way

>>70367967
Based anon, you being civil in my view.

>>70367967
There's nothing peaceful or civil about justifying hate. That's called mental illness

>>70368238
Because it's no longer the sole responsibility of the homo? public complaints will be direct criticism to the both of them and with that in mind it can be derived as the fault of the girls? Do I have to spell out inferential comprehension for you?

>>70367531
I care about hololive members that don't do homocollabs. Hololive members that do homocollabs help the homos leech cover's resources like 3d studio time and therefore hurt the girls I like. Homocollabs are also garbage content and the homos are faggots

>>70368360
Nta, but their is no point going through his "arguments". It's mostly unitroon delusions and his headcanon.

>>70366502
>What confuses me is why are unicorns offering their opinions about someone they explicitly claim to not support and watch because of their actions
I'm gonna tell you a secret anon, it's actually a lot easier to shitpost about a stream that you didn't bother to watch, for this case just the fact that there were males on screen was enough, but it could be any other things like something the chuba said taken out of context, or literally just the game the chuba chose to play.

>>70368065
Holoen is more unicorn friendly than it has ever been since tempus. Bae and maybe mori are the only members actively doing homocollabs

>>70368316
So the idea here is that since it's their stream, nobody is allowed to complain about anything ever. No matter what it is, because it's their content.
Speculating further, is it because they're girls? You seemed to indicate similar treatment shouldn't matter for males.
>>70368444
>public complaints will be direct criticism to the both of them and with that in mind it can be derived as the fault of the girls
Yes, if it's seen as bad then it would be the "fault" of the girls in that scenario.

>>70368458
> You steal precious oxygen from earth which should've been given to my family therefore I hate you and your mother for taking care of you.

>>70368588
> Yes, if it's seen as bad then it would be the "fault" of the girls in that scenario.
And now you can justify shitting on the holo talents! hooray nigger! after this maybe you can finally push the trigger and end yourself!

>>70368411
Nta
You know the irony of seething about unicorn? Unicorn doesn't watch homo collabing girls since day one, In other word by using the original terminology, they just a convenient boogeyman for people to seeth.

>>70368591
That's actually true for unikeks though. Not only do they steal resources, they also lower the overall IQ level which is already at record lows.

>>70368635
>And now you can justify shitting on the holo talents!
"Shitting on them" is a bit harsh, but yeah. What's wrong with complaining about shit you don't like or want to see in your entertainment?

>>70368591
Dumb analogy. Plenty of hololive members have complained about their 3d lives getting pushed back due to the studio being fully booked or not getting one at all like kiara all the while the homos get regular 3d events

>>70368588
I'm not that dude who thinks it's okay to shit on homos just cause they have cocks but generally sperging about Holo playing a game their way or doing content they want is pretty retarded, yes
I can see people complaining about stuff like a talent being rude, disrespectful or insensitive (aka. stuff that pretty much does not happen on Holo streams), but I find complaining about content choices itself being fairly tone-deaf and autistic

>>70368747
> "Shitting on them" is a bit harsh, but yeah
>>70364125

>>70368591
I saw a netflix with the same scenario, turned out people would protect their community(hologirls) when they have limited resource and shunned other that deprived of them in their eyes.

>>70368768
Define regular 3d events. You can't retard, the same way you can't see how much resources the homos actually uses for their projects. You're meta way of shitting on homos is so fucking stupid its unreal

>>70368797
Answer the question. You can do it, use your words.
>>70368772
>I can see people complaining about stuff like a talent being rude, disrespectful or insensitive (aka. stuff that pretty much does not happen on Holo streams), but I find complaining about content choices itself being fairly tone-deaf and autistic
Why? And what's the distinction, and is it specific to Hololive?

>>70368666
So are you trying to tell me that Unicorns are being falseflagged as? then explain posters like >>70357170
Also this isn't the first time I've seen a poster like this. Going so far as to generate AI unicorns seems like a bit much for larping and falseflagging no?

>>70368469
>he's making actual arguments
>you're shitflinging mindlessly and even admit it
Based good guy.

>>70368890
You are already wrong when you normalized shitting on the holos on made up rules by you unicorn retards.

>>70367641
I appreciate it anon. I think I said it somewhere above, but I could make a massive post about how the vtubing community got to the current state its own from my own perspective, but I recognize that I'm just one person regardless of how much I remember. That post was just an attempt of mine to offer some genuine points I don't really see brought up much. I don't really get why I'm being accused of seething. If anything, the last bit is more me proselytizing more than anything else, but that's because I wanted to hammer home the reality that these discussions love to ignore so many of the other players on the board.
>>70367773
>>70367926
>>70368000
Why do people here think effortposts are always seething, I will never understand

>>70368797
Is that actually what we're defining as "shitting on them"? Complaining on an anonymous message board?

"Shitting on" to me would be going on twitter or youtube and shitting up replies/comment sections. Stuff that the talent could actually see. I do not count /here/ as the same, by nature people here are over-inflammatory and hyperbolic in their opinions.

You can draw the false equivalency that the same people are doing both I suppose, but that seems like a reach.

>>70368768
This is made up and was never explicitly confirmed. Once again a boogeyman unicorns made up in order to seethe at homos

>>70368984
I'm not a unicorn, but that doesn't matter anyway. Can you engage with the question?