/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>70291069
Whoever has their contract renewal date coming up soonest. None of them could possibly be thinking about renewing at this point. The brand is poison.

>>70291225
Quite the opposite, there are many who would literally not find another place now, and if clique real why leaving when you can make the place even more yours?
My bet is Obsydia is gonna leave asap, followed by Iluna. Ethyria and Noctyx are staying.

>>70291069
Yugo will always be the funniest thing that happened to NijiEN
>we need a male vtuber for our EN branch
>let’s hire a Japanese woman who barely knows English

>>70291069
The one down quota per wave has already been exhausted. You won't see any more going away for quite some time.

>>70291069
Looking at that image got me thinking.
Apparently if you’re the most talented person in your wave it makes you way more likely to graduate.
Three times happening in seven waves is pretty high and you could argue it is four if you believe mysta to be more talented than vox.

>>70291069
I decided I'm playing Bingo. This will take a while but it's gonna be good.

>>70292059
It’s called high turnover. Its usually an objective sign of something wrong in the company itself, rrat or not. All the signs point it will not stop anytime soon.

>>70292107
I will gladly sacrifice the penguin to delete the top row

>>70291069
why would they keep playing, they already got a bingo

Krisis and TTT both need to lose one for that beautiful symmetry, right?

>>70292672
Krisis already lost one before debut.

>>70292582
She is hitting bucket list items with that video yesterday, saving her 500k. She may get the graduation so can leave before any more shit happens.

>>70292700
Niji has become so good at bleeding.
KEK.

>>70292672
>Krisis and TTT
Who?

>>70292059
Five, I believe Zaion had a chance to be the most popular from her wave as well. Her clips were popping off

>>70291069
BIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>70291391
Wosemi is leaving, Peto is becoming the next queen bee when Elira gets terminated.

>>70291069
1 out of these 6

>>70294287
isn't meloco basically jp

>>70291069
BINGO

>>70291069
They need to keep the cicle the first ones to leave created
so
>Noctyx: Sonny
>XSOLEIL: Doppio
>Ethyria: Reimu
>Luxiem: Luca
>Lazulight: Finana
>Obysidia: Rosemi
>ILUNA Scarle

>>70294287
bongos binted

>>70291069
rosemi and petra! we will get another bingo

>>70291069
im convinced most of the niji talents are locked in their own little bubble and cant believe theyre getting shit on this brutally. if anything, the bulk of the talents will close ranks with their shit fans, lock the gate and continue to act like everything is fine

>>70294439
JP also has similar if not the same problems EN has, she can see the writing on the walls.

>>70291069
My bets on Petra but it won't be anytime soon. Hoping to be proven wrong though

>>70291069
Already known that there will be no graduations in March because AnyKuro is trying to make their books look good upon the upcoming investor meeting.

The queue will start up back in April.

>>70291459
niji really did set yugo up for failure.. kek

>>70291541
krisis and ttt are still intact

>>70292059
>most talented expelled four times
>pomu, selen, mysta
who is the 4th

>>70292700
three, they lost three before debut

>>70297186
what? no way

>Vivi has been talking with Zentreya recently
she's /out/

>>70296984
Who??

Scarle and Fulgur are queued to leave

>>70297186
I only knew about the one Avrun was supposed to be, source on the other 2?

>>70297063
Kyo. One could argue scarle is better in terms of raw talent and a combination of her own tastes and niji's distant management have left her severely underutilized and underadvertised as a talent, but the critical element of the whole content creation thing is getting eyes on you. And even if niji is somewhat to blame for tossing out the later gens to die, the onus is ultimately on each vtuber to seek out audiences from somewhere and promote their own growth - and in terms of that kyo is clearly ahead of the rest of his gen.

>>70296625
Did any leaker say that? I personally doubt there's no grads this month honestly, they might anger the wrong liver by doing so if they delay it. At most they delay it a week or two.

>>70291225
>>70291391
Scarle and Aia would have to be stupid to risk losing their fat paypig audience by leaving

>>70291069
Didn't they release a few more gens/waves/whatever?
Expand the Bingo Card
Deliver a sacrifice to the Bingo Card
Poseidon demands tribute if the Yacht is to be spared

>>70297770
Can't wait for the debut of the new wave
>can't limit chat to members only

>>70297660
I can't speak for Aia, but Scarle's fanbase would follow her wherever she goes. She already doesn't really interact with the rest of the company very much; her fans are there specifically for her. And they are loyal enough to not leak member content even when most would consider it "juicy drama". Which puts them a step above nearly every other fanbase in the industry.

>>70297381
We all knew as soon as Selen was terminated that Vivi is on her way out. She's already lost both of her EN oshis, and can't even acknowledge the existence of one of them.
The only thing she (and by extension the rest of the community) is waiting on is for her contract to expire this summer. The only thing her talking to Zen might prove is that she doesn't intend to wait that long, and if that was true she would have already left Niji by now.

>>70297660
They'll follow them

>>70297916
Shes cute but I had no idea who she was before her debut stream showed up in my recommended despite not watching anything niggersanji so as much as I'd like to follow her when she leaves I wouldn't know where to look

>>70297646
>Foreigners like to manipulate images like these

>>70298168
If she does graduate, I'm sure the catalog will let you know.

>>70298168
Vivi = Mogu Ghost

>>70291069
So many homos...

The rentry document you have made has come to my attention, and I feel the need to note you've falsely associated some posts to my person.

>>/vt/thread/69120347#p69131117
This post was not made by me. It's also not factual.
>>/vt/thread/69036707#p69039207
My reply was misconstrued and mischaracterized. The livers grouped up and reprimanded/harassed Selen over her decision to upload the MV, as I'd already asserted prior. Vox never told Selen to kill herself. The livers set Selen aside and elaborated about how unprofessional, damaging, inconsiderate, selfish, and immature she was being, and continued barraging her with grievances.
Somehow, posters misconstrued that I confirmed Vox (or anyone for that matter) told Selen to commit suicide. He did not, no one did.


>>/vt/thread/69120347#p69130917
An anonymous poster was able to identify the impetus for the inference. To reiterate, Selen flirted with the idea of getting an assistant/personal manager.

>>70294287
I guess that is why Scarle suddenly got bones thrown her way. She has been performing well, and they really cannot afford to bleed new promising members = that would be the death spiral.

>>70297381
Smart girl.

Better to start networking now. So that she has a community to tab into on the other side.

>>70298465
Part of the reason why I never liked them, Same with Vshojo hiring a few dudes. At least homostars is kept mostly separate from hololive and phase connect is the psych ward of a women's hospital

>>70298497
check out this dude with his fancy-ass words
speak English for fuck's sake

*ahem*

>>70298497
You're trying too hard there buddy, and half this board is SEA anyhow. Just stick to a 5th grade reading level like our politicians.

>>70297381
ew

>>70292107
I can see all the left column gone

>>70297900
aye thanks for that anon.
we kept our shit secret
bcs she usually the one leak shit lmao.

>>70296984
Krisis lost one before even debuting.

>>70297900
>>70297942
This is going to be the new vtuber meta.
>sign with an agency
>get an immediate boost in fans/followers
>get fired and go independent
>fans follow you
>you now have full control of your brand and you got a nice following boost from your time at the big agency

>>70300108
i was counting only the ones that debuted.. even then, ttt still gotta lose one

>>70298796
>Termination before debut
Niji breaking vtubing records

They will run counter-programming against Doki's charity stream on Saturday, and a graduation announcement stream (singular) would probably be the least stupid thing they can do for that purpose.

So they might announce multiple graduations (plural) on Saturday at 12pm PST and have a graduation announcement relay stream starting at 12.30 pm, to try to keep their counter-programming running as long as possible.

Or they'll do something stupider than that during the charity stream. Also there's a Tekken tournament next week which will have Rosemi, Vivi, and Lily Pichu; so expect something horrifically stupid from Niji then as well (potentially dropping Rosemi's and/or Vivi's graduation announcement(s) while she's streaming, as punishment for choosing to leave)

>>70297063
Zaion unironically.
She was the only one worth watching from her wave.

>>70300197
she act retarded in stream
in reality she playing 5D chess with niji management.
all she need is the management caught lacking and she out.

>>70298497
Thanks leaker-san. Got any morsel for the hungry masses?

Personally, I'm quite curious about the Nina anomaly. She seems to still be good friends with both the clique and supposed victims of Nijisanji. Probably a nuanced individual who doesn't want to burn any bridges even though they probably should?

>>70300197
Thing is you'd have to tank at least a year of their bullshit and risk getting zaion'd anyway. Also at least for kunai niji's been a legit debuff for her from what some anons have been showing.

>>70300370
Was she more popular pre-niji?

>>70300452
She like at half of her main channel subs right now with Niji

>>70300275
kek imagine if they actually did a surprise debut during her charity stream

>>70298497
Why was the video such a big deal for them?

>>70300452
PL channel has 188k subs, kunai has less than 80k and falling

>>70298796
Looks like he could be the fabled Straight Bro-Tuber. But this gay earth couldn't handle that

>>70300197
I think 2 year is the optimal strat. But I assume that'd be the way any new livers are going to roll. Anycolor's best option is probably to embrace it and make it work for them.

>>70300657
Man, if I was supposed to debut and Niji did that shit on me I'd call Riku a rice nigger live on stream.

>>70298497
Welp 3/however many is not that bad.
I assume we haven't missed any at least then? Since you aren't pointing out any missed ones.

>>70300657
>Debut gets mugged by Doki charity

>>70298497
>Selen flirted with the idea of getting an assistant/personal manager
Any idea why she got denied?

>>70300657
Things are looking grim going by the karaoke with half the branch at peak SEA hours

>>70297900
What does Scarle have that makes people paypig so much and be that loyal? Sure, the latina model put eyes on her, but that can't be everything. Is her autism really that powerful?

>>70301309
nah
its simple really
"chat interaction"
she actually interact with majority of people in her chat and the chat also join the conversation on the chat simple as that

>>70301178
>I need to check the perms to see if you can hire someone with your own money

>>70300733
Since the branching is in flames anyway, I think sharing her rm accounts would be appropriate.

>>70301178
The request never went trough. Management was incompetent and never needed to pick up because Elira was working for Lazulight and likely Ethyria. When you are gaining mone doing the bare minimum and one thing comes up, it's easy for that thing to be done than actually put effort and shape yourself.
In tl;dr, someone new entering the scene would have screamed "holy fuck how the heck this is still working" and told people.

>>70291069
if the organs were smart, they would be lawyered up to the teeth right now. Then they could get out of their crappy contracts and get away from this radioactive brand.

>>70300197
I mean, it's the meta as long as companies don't shape up and protect themselves, which they would if their rep keeps getting tanked by these people.

>>70300275
>Counter-programming
>Announce several graduations
So...they will self destruct on live to get to Doki? You do realize announcing several graduation is not gonna be a W.

>>70301194
Couldn’t even beat dokis helldivers stream in ccv. Very grim

>>70301470
Open wide, anon
sunnysplosion
She nuked everything tho

>>70301527
A lawyer would tell you to ammass evidence and prepare if they try to fuck you up. The only reason Doki did the HR complaint is because they were not gonna let her graduate in peace and she wanted out asap.
It was basically saying "I want out and if you try to sue me over it this hits the court". Which clearly made them sweat and give out info about it in a termination that had no reason to have it.

>>70301623
Doing that would be the mother of retarded decisions, but at this point I wouldn't put it past them

>>70301748
Imagine nuking your indie career to get into Nijisanji.

>>70292107
These poor bastards. KEK

>>70300197
depends how close you are with you coworkers/genmates, some people come for the chemistry and if you go indie without them, it’s unlikely your agency will let you both connect

>>70301793
At this point, I often end up thinking, "That would be the most idiotic move they could make. Seems plausible."

>>70300673
There was no express guideline about featuring ex-livers in media. Some talents believed it was proper social protocol, you can think of it as good manners. EN Management themselves were not sure what the company policy was regarding ex-livers, since they'd received conflicting information (from talents). I should stress, once again, that EN management consists of people that are not native english speakers and their scope of work is not what one would expect from talent managers. It's ad hoc and convoluted. Selen rebelled and went ahead to release the MV, which made the company, the EN management, and the talents look bad. Doubly so for Elira, who has a "special" position in the hierarchy. Some livers took it as an extra affront, since they'd expressed grievances again in the past about alleged or perceived infractions (boils down to Selen making comments or tweets that could paint the company in a bad light).
I don't know how they intended to handle it, because I've heard conflicting information from the talents themselves, but I have the following suspicions; they either intended to release the MV once enough emotional damage had been sustained by Selen, and after her reputation had been damaged for not fulfilling a promise to her fan base, or they never had any intention of following-up in the first place.

>>70301178
She never officially made the request. A talent took initiative and talked her out of it. She would have most likely been denied regardless.


Having said that,

Could you kindly remedy the inconsistencies and misattributions in the document, as I've outlined?

>>70301978
>end up going with another black stream during her charity

Where the hell is the Mario Kart stream Kurosanji I took the day off work!!!!

Luca termination
Petra graduation

>>70301034
>Welp 3/however many
The leaker confirmed that the Vox one was made by him, but that he wasn't implicating that Vox told Selen to kill herself, rather that the members grouped up and harassed her.

>>70302057
Thanks for the info. You'll have to wait on the rentry being changed though, I think only those with the editors' code could make changes.

>>70302057
should be updated now

>>70302057
Was EN management so bare that she didn't send the individual art frames ahead of the final production? Or was someone being difficult on purpse?

>>70298497
I may have bad reading comprehension, but this means that the ''nailed it'' post was made by you and the other two weren't?

>>70302129
your mom impregnation
your dad sissification

>>70302336
I admit it sounded a bit weird to me Vox actually told her to "off herself" and they didn't just used it to toss him under the bus. Easier shit ever. It's more beliavable they just ganged up on her without realizing that she posted the MV because she did promise to get it by Xmas, worked on it all alone without help eroding her mental sanity, and break under that.
Not that anything justify them berating her for it, they should severely apologize for that. Even in a world she did wrong on the MV, I am fucking sure it's not their job to reprimand her and that just proves how fucking toxic Niji is.

>>70292107
TTT forgotten again, just like their actual channels

>>70298497
Why are you LARPing as someone in kurosanji?

>>70302070
What if they hosted their own charity stream against bullying?

>>70302485
Maybe you shouldn't get mad about things you're just imagining.

>>70302500
I mean, it's not impossible. There are receipts proving they lurk, and they are certantly not streaming so they must be looking around at least.
Which is why I take any word of LK as a grain of salt, because it falls into the fallacy of "Oh I read it so I'm not gonna do it now".

>>70302527
>vox charity for mental health
>organ tries offing herself

nah, they're cooked

>>70302527
That would be absolutely moronic.
>Doki is already ahead and they risk to be humiliated.
>People will point out quickly "you are a company, you have money, if you want to donate to charity go donate to Doki" and it will become a shitfest.

>>70291069
Why do half of their logos look like womb tatoos?
Jesas Niji, hire another logo designer. This is embarrassing.

>>70302670
because your brain is mush at this point, anon

>>70302567
No one in NijiEN is that verbose, and there is no way doing what this fag would not be violating NDA and everything they say not falsifiable.

>>70302567
I wonder if being /here/ means they think even common sense ideas such as Nijsanji=Bad is related to 4chan.

>>70302302
No, that's a false narrative.
When a talent proposes a project, be that an MV, original song, or simple cover, the contractors have to sign contract agreements and management has to sign off on the storyboard and specifics.
Storyboards generally include all the characters, locations, and placements, and they often include the entire breadth of the art. Management should have had access to every single still-frame for months prior to the release of the youtube video.


>>70302336
Nailed it, as in the poster was correct to deduce the talents had set Selen aside to bombard her with grievances (he identified Vox). In other words, Selen's emotional state deteriorated as a direct result of her coworkers ganging up against her. No one told her to kill herself, I was under the impression the poster used it as hyperbole, but evidently some people took it literally.

>>70302057
Someone theorised two days ago that Vox was some sort of pseudo-manager like Elira. Is that true?

>>70301748
Did she nuke it? Or did she just set her stuff to private?
Because if it was set to private, she can un-private it on her redebut

>>70302527
Why not? Surely nothing will go wrong

>>70291069
I think Scarle will be the next one

>>70302762
Thanks. At least now we know that nobody told her that.

>>70302762
Alright mr leaker: i dont care about your company's high school drama bullshit. i wanna know the REAL shit.
Who is the throat goat of NijiEN? Who swallows, who spits?
Who has the tightest cunt? Whose pussy game is ridiculous?

>>70302057
Leaker-san, how come some artists claim that Nijisanji was supposed to pay them when in other projects we've seen talents talk about paying out of their own pocket? Is it some kind of protection thing where a talent gives money to Niji and Niji pays the artists directly so the talent isn't doxxed or something?

>>70302629
Hence why I proposed it, since they're making the worst decisions at every turn. With upper management's eyes on them, they could (poorly) try to sell it as good PR.

>>70302982
Not the leaker
But yes that is how it should be done

>>70302057
Is the "talents refer to her as dookebird in Discord to trick the jp staff" thing actually real or is that just lie?

>>70298497

>>70302982
Artists will expect to work with the company because they expect to know what they are selling. When you sell something, you may be selling a right to use it, the entire IP, a period of time to not use it yourself, deciding to not sell anything similar...it's not like dealing with a customer.
That's why you work with the company, cuz you sign contracts and NDAs so they don't sue you later for misunderstanding. I think it's just most artitst were surprised that the liver had to pay instead.

>>70303159
I have a better question. How old are you?

>>70302762
Was the group "intervention" the final time anyone in the company heard form Selen before she was hospitalized? Did she have anyone to turn to after that occurred?

>>70302057
So basically according to you it was sabotage, since it's absurd the livers have no actual indication of what the permits even are and what is needed.
Did they adjusted this shit and that's why Petra's MV finally come out?

I really doubt anyone is getting out soon without being terminated.
And aside from maybe Scarle and some of the guys, who would want to leave? Even with the 2% shit and other cuts, you have a very easy, comfy job.

>>70302762
Ok, that makes a lot of sense, so basically it was a massive fuck up/sabotage according to you.
Big question is what now? What they plan to do? Are they gonna actually try to solve stuff or they actually think doubling down will not do more damage?

>>70303472
Having a target constantly on your head, being often reassured of who little worth you have and having anything you say scrutinized is not something I'd call comfy anymore.

>>70303472
Part of the reason Selen was able to immediately bounce back is because she is ambitious
If your lazy and don't make enough in a year to profit your long-term financials are pretty bad

>>70303638
All they have to do is delete the black screen video and have ever liver apologize.
It is that simple.
Scarle and the fags could survive as indies. Most of the girls would likely struggle a bit, especially Elira who is the one that NEEDS NijiEN public opinion to turn around since her's is equated with it.

>>70303472
Everything we see, and not from the leaker, points at an extremely toxic enviroment. Forced to play family, high turnover of talent coming in and out, and constant scrutiny due to multiple stuff like branch closures and talents leaving and getting other jobs.
No amount of money is worth mental sanity.

>>70297381
goddamn zen really is the unity whore of vshojo kek, everyone goes to them

>>70302982
Contractors receive payment once the project is completed, when that's the contractual stipulation (it often is). Since we have established NijisanjiEN is horribly mismanaged, you can deduce how it is that some contractors fail to receive remuneration in a timely manner or at all. Other than that, when it comes to individual projects, the talent is expected to pay for their entirety.

>>70303159
I doubt they started doing it to trick staff or management. I posit they started doing it because they found it funny or because their fans started referring to Dokibird by that name. I doubt they are that cognitively insolvent.

>>70303360
As far as I know, that is correct. I don't know if she independently contacted any coworkers during her time in the hospital or her month-long soft suspension for that matter.

>>70303407
It is now an official guideline that has to be followed.

>>70303534
As I've mentioned in another thread, they want to focus on grassroot initiatives that foster positivity, as well as verbalizing "their truth" via third parties (influencers, social media personalities).
With that, I take my leave. Thank you for confirming you will update the document, anons, I was perturbed over the misattributions.

>>70303808
I mean, an one side apology would end it but let's be real, the whole eastern mentality is driving them to believe that being the ""loser"" is bad and they want at least a more neutral term.
People would expect to know things are better, fixing and stuff. An explanation with the apology that clarifies how things are getting better, or a gesture of goodwill, would be for the best to reconquer public opinion.

>Influencers/Social Media
Jesus H Christ I hope they know who to pick here. Another psycho Daphne is the last thing they need. Whoever gives their truth better make sense and not sound menhera.
>Petra's MV
Ok, that...makes sense, and honestly I can believe it. Especially since they didn't make a big deal and it did help Petra save the 500k.
Still, I dunno how much that will help without addressing the elephant in the room. Unless the plan IS to donate at Doki's charity.
Still, this plan would go definitely in the right way, I do hope this is true. Time will tell if more is needed.

I got to ask, if you ever read this. The whole Finana larp was a larper right?

>>70303897
FalseeyeD, Nux, Nousagi, Khyo and a few other dramatubers have been hinting at some "big bomb" info they know about but can't leak. False implied there's some big news about niji that's due to come out in April as well.
Obviously you might not be able to say what it is, but would it be..
1. Something that affects the entire branch?
or
2. Confirmation of an existing rrat?
or
3. Extremely bad (illegal level) shit from a few livers?

>>70303897
>I was perturbed over the misattributions.
Lmao imagine actually believing any kurosanji organ unironically speaks like this

>>70303808
I dunno man, when has an apology stream ever helped? Like, I've never seen this shit end well.

>>70304177
>April
Why'd this nigger say March and move it back to April? If he says May he needs to kill himself and fuck off

>>70304177
The only reason to not talk is an NDA, but I doubt is Sayu's one as she said she was not interested in messing with them.
It could be they know about a graduation or something, I doubt it's the confirmation of a rrat as the only rrat got to the normies is the Clique, and that would be a shitstorm no one in the company wants to start.

>>70304190
It’s Fulgur

>>70302057
There are a few holes in your story since we know Mayuzumi had to be asked to have his likeness represented after graduation, all the way in 2023.

>>70300222
Don't forget that one Grimmi indie who may have possibly gotten at spot in Niji to then make an ungraduation announcement kek

>>70304285
Yeah and im rosemi
Hazukashi!

>>70304190
Disguising text is easy
H0w 1s 1t g01ng d00d
How are you conducting yourself today good sir?

>>70304207
It's usually because they are not beliavable, because they feel cheap. Say sorry in front of a camera sounds like "sorry I got caught".
There are ways to make it work, mostly actions of goodwill or proof you fixed the problem. Petra's MV could be a good starting point, saying "sorry we left Doki in a situation where she could have done no right, now there are guidelines so that never happens again".

>>70304293
dude the company owns the ip. they would never allow a talent the power to decide what happens with the ip after their graduation. I bet they have an unwitten rule about asking the talents if they are okay with it and that's the extent of it

>>70304293
If anything this may prove there were no clear rule so you could do no right. A manager could say "you need them" and another would say "no". It does match what he says, and honestly there are proof outside his post management is incompetent.
It is beliavable Selen was left with no idea how to get the MV out, tried to cover all the basis, but was left with "either fuck the fans or fuck yourself".

>>70304207
If it is sincere, it works. They should do it, inform the public as much as they can about the supposed internal changes they implemented to prevent something like this from happening, and they'll change up termination notices to kurt because they always end up looking retarded when writing them.
>when has an apology stream ever helped?
How often do we see fuck ups as monumental as this one?

>>70304293
I mean I buy it. There's plenty of uneven rule implementation in both JP and EN.
Mito got a huge amount of legal assistance to fuck up her stalker, but Chihiro didn't get shit.
Luxiem were never punished for actively shitting on management's "COVID" narrative, while Selen was continuously shit on internally for all the times she tried to clarify certain things about her events that were company related.
Inconsistent rule implementation is what leads to favoritism. Which is one of the big reasons that Mel had to go

>>70304319
>Obvious stupid bait but just to make it clear.
I'm taking this whole LK thing with a grain of salt since we do know the lurk and could react to the leaking, and this guy could be fake.
Hell, this guy could literally be Elira posting shit here to see how the board reacts and get second opinions.
Having said that, some of the things said do make sense and he is proposing an actual solution that may work, so I prefer to believe rather than be a negative ass.

>>70291069
Vox

>>70304319
omg hi rosemi-sama ! >~<

>>70304319
ROSEMI PLEASE LEAVE THAT SHIT COMPANY
PHASE OR INDIE IT DOESN’T MATTER

>>70304613
>Hi Sakana.

>>70304207
When you fuck up in the corpo world and issue a public apology it's a damage reduction move. It's not meant to undo damage. The problem is a public apology is dangerous, you have to have someone high up the foodchain to issue it and is charismatic for it to land, otherwise it comes off as insincere. It's hard to find that.

>>70304569
I mean, management is incompetent matches a lot of evidence we found, even the CEO said in his apology that management had a lot of fuck-ups.
Shitting on management pre-Doki is not even a rrat at this point. Is completely beliavable.

>>70296255
Given Wilson's tweet about drama tubers... yeah I think about half the organs are in a delusional echo chamber...

>>70304374
Verbally asking active talents at that, it's obvious they (elira?) just didn't want any acknowledgement of the traitors and just made up any rule as an excuse.

who the fuck even is this guy? Niji has so many random nobodys in their lineup

>>70304362
>>70304496
In both cases we're talking about theoretical and can't pinpoint to an exact instance of this. I want a name of an youtuber for whom this worked. Usually the one that get away with it, do so by either becoming complete lolcows or just weathered the storm.
>>70304496
>How often do we see fuck ups as monumental as this one?
With youtubers? It's not exactly a new thing.

>>70304651
It seems like the worst of the damage is already done (until they fuck something up again)
Fucking Pomu or Selen would have been the figures to give that apology lmao

>>70304651
They could have Elira do it. I'm not even joking.
She has to admit to the favoritism, but I'm not gonna lie, the only thing to really say sorry is the bullying. She can spin the shit out of "management was so incompetent I had to step in, but now we have actual managers finally". She could relaunch herself as the bossgirl as long as they address the bullying and toxic enviroment PROPERLY.
Those are the two real problems, I don't find her having to step in where the managers fucked up a net negative.

>>70304207
It never works because internet celebrities always think too highly of themselves and are never self reflective.
They can never fathom the idea that they are "wrong" or that they're a "bad guy".
So their "apologies" almost always feel like they're sad about getting caught rather than understanding that they did something bad.
A proper apology involves admitting that you fucked up. All the other stuff is window dressing without that core.

For a proper apology you can check out Dr. Disrespect admitting to cheating on his wife.
He straight up said yeah, he fucked up, it was his fault, some people might not watch him anymore and that he understands. And that he can only promise to try better. And his fanbase accepted that.
Also it's never about the words used alone either, someone else copying ^this template will not have the same effect without the tone or the genuineness of the apology coming through.

>>70294287
Petra and Melococo have the Niji JP angle, Scarle is probably in queue but I doubt she's next. If you believe one of the leakers with very good vocabulary was Fulgur, he's been in queue for 4 months. I pray to god Hex doesn't leave because I want his fanbase to stay in Niji.
I want to say Wose may be next but I'm not sure if they'd let that happen fresh off the Selen situation or if that's more of a reason to let her go now. She's probably been heavily conditioned to believe that she has nothing outside of Niji.

THEY ARE ALL TERMINALLY ONLINE

THEY ARE /HERE/ 24/7 AND IT'S HILARIOUS

>>70297063
There could be an argument for every graduated organ to have been the best of their gen except maybe Yugo.
>Pomu
>Selen
>Nina
>Mysta
>Kyo (My fav is Scarle but Kyo got himself out there)
>Zaion (Though her and Doppio are tied for me)

>>70304741
Pewdiepie
Joji having a career despite who he was and amazingly not being cancelled for it by twitterfags in the current day
Shane Dawson
H3H3

>>70304727
resident sex pest

>>70304844 (me)

this is in response to pic related going the rounds on /vt/ and the entire board making fan of the hanamori + nenmen fags

>>70304741
>Weather the storm.
Yes, it's doing fucking wonders right now. Can't wait for Elira to be back and having to sit on that black video. Or delete it and have all dramatubers scream about it's disappearance and the board archive spam it.
Stop thinking silence work, you can't break it once and then go back at it like nothing happened. The moment the black video dropped, silence went out of the window.
They need to address the situation. If not an apology, an explanation, or anything. They don't have to win everyone, they just have to make sure the message changes to positive. Then time will heal the wounds.

>>70304844
chat, is this real?

>>70297824
Apparently GrimmiVT and someone else were supposed to be part of the new wave but they dipped lol

>>70298497
LARPing faggot

>>70305001
Didn't she confirm it was not Niji? Also new wave? How old is TTT, I don't think they have 6 months even.

>>70291459
that shits still funny you would think japan a country that hates mental illness wouldve laughed at her

>>70304960
wose...

>>70304873 (me)
>>70304741
Also false equivalency.
This is a company mega fuck up since they tried to use talents, who currently hold 97% of all goodwill, to try to not damage control, but literally shift the blame to a person that tried to off herself.
So Elira, Ike and Vox are on the shit list. Having livers still on people's good graces apologize for the retweet and wish Doki the best, and have Riku apologize again and explain internal changes would probably be the best PR they could do.

>>70300197
This is true but you run the risk of getting WACTOR'd if you're plan is to specifically find a mid company so that you gain more than you lose when you leave.
From what we know, this wouldn't be the meta for Holo or Phase so you'd have to put up with a shit company or go for a smaller one that would give you less of a boost

>>70300275
Damn, why do they hate charity so much?

>>70305285
Riku apologizing again IS NOT a good move. It would look horrible in JP, it would make the bowing he did look unsincere if he does again, and that is not seen in a good light. He said management was getting fixed.
The heart of the problem is the black video at the moment. Bleeding talents don't seem like a good move, that's why a scapegoat was rumored in the board for a while. Elira apologizing for the bullying, some goodwill like the fucking buttons, and some clarification of how things go better from her would work.

>>70300197
I don't see the issue.
Just treat your talents better.

>>70304828
I think it has to be someone who already put in their notices months ago before the Selen situation even started but after Pomu and Kyo. We know Pomu decided in July of last year, and Kyo a bit after that, but I don't know who else is dissatisfied with the situation that wants to go before the situation blew up. The leaker who said he put in his notice last month and that there is a queue means there were several people already and I doubt it was over working conditions and denied projects, more likely the runts and not seeing numbers.
>>70300197
We already saw how that worked for Production Kawaii's Gen 3, it isn't bad but it's certainly not optimal.

>>70304828
To play devil's advocate: it is true Rosemi earns little, especially considering her popularity.

>>70297546
There were 6 models leaked, but we only knew about Avrun being ojisan

From what I can tell, they haven't scheduled ANYTHING for saturday, so if they somehow come up with an off-collab or announcement, it's 100% to antagonize Doki (again)


>Collabs/Tourneys
– 3 Mar : Goose Goose Duck w/ NijiEN
– 10 Mar : Sajam Tekken Slam (Rosemi, Vivi)
– TBA : Mario Kart Tournament, DnD Session (Aia)

>Outfits/Brush-ups
– 29 Feb : Doppio 2nd Outfit
– 9 Mar : Fulgur 3rd Outfit
– 3.0 BrushUp : Jan – Elira, Feb – Alban, Scarle

>M&G/Café Collabs
– 1 to 3 Mar : Nijigen Expo (Luca, Obsydia)
– 23 Mar : ScottyCon (Maria)
– 24 Mar : White Day Fanmeeting TW (Luca, Shu)
– 5 Apr : Virtual Rhapsody HK (Fulgur, Doppio)
– 27 Apr : Virtual Rhapsody SG (Elira, Finana, Enna, Millie, Shu, Luca, Uki, Sonny)
– 31 May to 2 Jun : Offkai Expo (Ethyria)

>Merch/Sponsors
– Current VP/Goods : 2022 White Day, Enna & Scarle Bday, Noctyx 2nd Anni, Hotel NijiEN
– 1 Mar : Edwin Jeans (Kotomelo), Code Geass x NijiEN (Ethyria, Noctyx)
– TBA : Nendroids (Luxiem), Palverse Pale Figures (Ethyria, Krisis), Original Scale Figures Vol. 1 (Alban, Enna, Luca), Vol 2. (Elira, Shu), 1/8 Scale Figure (Ike)

>>70297186
Well they literally named the branch "crisis", they invited it themselves

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7zLTBrneb8

>>70305743
Surely, they won't try to do something during Doki's charity stream, right? I mean NijiEN isn't THAT retarded, right? That would be fucken stupid. Right anons?

>>70305743
I think, or I hope, that if they aimed to do any stupid act like that the karaoke was the testing ground.
If so, they should have got the message that it's not gonna work. Especially if they try to snipe a FUCKING CHARITY.
Man I wanna believe this doesn't become a March shitstorm.

>>70301623
Their first attempt at counterprogramning was a hitpiece where they fucked up so badly that multiple livers admitted to actual crimes on stream

>>70297186
Then it's in the basement until refilled. Imagine debuting it with so many missing members, they have to be suicidal.

>>70305388
Easy, any money donated to charity is money not used to fund a new yacht for Riku

>>70305914
You...have a point, and that's why I hope they got the message this time.

>>70305879
It depends on how much they are being wrangled still
Enna is a cunt and would definitely overlap with a stream about "bad workers"

>>70305889
I hope it does.
Because this would make the charity explode with support, same as doki.
Nijisanji would cement themselves a petty bitches and the NDF sethee when this low blow is pointed out would be off the charts.

>>70302951
>Vox
>Vox, Scarle
>Enna
>Vox

>>70304569
Yeah, pre-Doki yab, I was on the fence about giving Mel preferential treatment since she obviously owned up to her mistakes. Post-Doki yab, I'm convinced that the Mel termination was justified. Not because she deserves it, but because fairness is what keeps the boat afloat

>>70304694
Even the CEO's apology video had issues. He made a massive cultural faux pas by bowing with his hands behind his back.

>>70305988
I honestly hope they didn't get the message at all, announce multiple graduations during the charity stream, and try to smear Selen again at the same time. I want this company to burn. Total Niji death.

>>70305743
How long was the waiting room for the Black screen hit piece up for? A day, a week, or was it hours/minutes? I want to know, because if it was put up to counter Doki's stream hours/minutes before, then that could mean they could do it again.

>>70306194
TRUEE!!! The charity stream would get so many more donos in retaliation to Niji being a cunt

>>70306572
If I remember correctly the blackout pr was only announced like 15 minutes before it aired. Same with the 10 organ karaoke that overlapped Doki's Helldivers stream

>>70304812
The problem with using Elira is while she's the alleged ringleader, in the grand scheme of things, she's just a pleb within the company and it will look like she's being scapegoated. People will also want - as part of the apology, some assurance that this won't happen again. Elira's position in the overall company structure hurts her credibility to make promises of structural change. In the grand scheme of things she's just pleb and the core issue is the structure of the company letting her run riot. She's not in a position to enact change. You end up looking insincere using Elira because systemic catastrophic organisational issues led to her gaining way too much influence which upper management is responsible for by not having adequate oversight. The general public is going to believe she's being scapegoated so Anycolors rep is back in the trash. Elira should do an apology on her personal channel (IF the allegations are true) But there should be another one on the the official NijiEN channel from someone with authority over the situation detailing how the fuck they are going to prevent this from happening again.

>>70306572
They tweeted 15 mins before the stream went "live". It coincided with Doki's stream perfectly.

Same with the off-collab karaoke, the only difference being that Doki's stream was a little later than she'd scheduled because the holofag didn't wake up on time.

>>70306723
>>70306856
They're going to do it again during Doki's charity stream, aren't they?

>>70302544
You are /here/ anon. This shit is standard

>>70304177
During his interview with Sayu she mentioned about finding it difficult for even people who believed her to stand up for her publicly due to the influence AnyColor has in Japan. After she said this he mentioned that he has something along similar lines coming out in April. Based on this I'm relatively sure it's to do with how AnyColor uses its size to pressure smaller companies and maybe even legislators.

I found out Meloco in Xsoleil is my oshi's rl sister, so i like and support her now. hope she has success.

>>70304828
>She's probably been heavily conditioned to believe that she has nothing outside of Niji
Considering she's ex-Tsunderia, I have a hard time believing that. It's not like she came from nothing

>>70307372
Yeah, she has friends in Holo (Kiara and Zeta), one of her closest friends is Nina in Vshojo and she has connections in Phase.

>>70301886
Doesn't Niji require it?

>>70297900
"member leaks" exist because a vtuber sometimes has dedicated enough antis that they pay her actual money for the chance to get some dirt on her. Just be glad Scarle manages to be successful without attracting schizos

>>70307466
In my opinion, testimony from people who applied to nijisanji does not count

>>70307700
>in my opinion anything negative about Nijisanji doesn't count

>>70300222
Chris...

>>70307466
Scarle's rm still have vids up

So how much are they going to pay OTV for positive feedback? I don't think they understand Sykkuno's stance as he wouldn't tread into territory that shit cans a vtuber like Dokibird.

>>70308133
>OTV
>Sykkuno
Who?

>>70307437
You didn’t take into consideration that she may be too dumb to realize that.

>>70291069
Isn't it weird it's one person from each? I imagine they are discouraging more people from leaving one wave too soon?

>>70297381
Why is Zen always with some new girl

>>70297381
I am more keen to believe this is yet another case of the "grassroot" initiative the leaker talked about. It could be Vivi telling Zentreya nijiEN's "truth".

>>70304319
Don't you have a tournament to practice for. Sajam and the world are gonna be disappointed if you only hit purple ranks in offline only.

>>70304727
He harassed a water bottle on the black screen video

>>70310015
Cause they broke up with aster

>>70310218
I'm not one of the anons who keep posting about how Vivi is innocent but I'd like to think she's not stupid or invested enough in NijiEN to try to restart shit that's already backfired on them once. The response to the retard about art on twitter seems more like her defending herself personally rather than the company.

>>70291069
Unrelated but why are Fulgur, Sonny, and Uki so fucking ugly??

>>70310218
>Vshojo sticking their head into this shit for Niji.
Bro is scared of his very shadow here.

>>70310504
>Because Uki's model is too white so he hates it.

>>70310504
Korean manhwa gook phases. Fujoshis love this kind of art.

>>70310218
Nah Zen is talking with Doki too

>>70310604
They look disgusting. Their faces look too long. Not even the other nijimales look fucked up like this

>>70292107
Who's the yugioh character in the bottom left?

>>70310504
cuz you're not the target audience, anon.

>>70310504
Get rid of the eye thing and Fulgurs fine enough, generic as hell, but Uki looks AI generated. Much like his personality is.

>>70306968
They probably recorded the next black screen video as soon as she announced that she would be doing a charity stream.
What can possibly go wrong for them? It's not like she has receipts or a lawyer or over a week of prep time or anything!

>>70306968
On one hand, I really don't want them to hurt Doki any more.
On the other, this might just work as ripping the band-aid off and the backlash would completely decimate their ability to attack her, so I'd like to see them try.

>>70304844
Why must he leech on doppio so blatantly

>>70292107
Meloco, please stop collabing with hex

>>70298497
Kill yourself vox

>>70306572
I've also heard testimonies that it was scheduled half hour after doki's start time then got pushed ahead to coincide.

>>70291225
>The brand is poison.
Uh huh

>>70306253
I guess burping into pussy is ridiculous

>>70305743
>offkai
i thought cons would give them the radioactive waste treatment, or were they confirmed months ago before the shitstorm?

>>70313314
Confirmed months ago. It takes a while to set these things up, and they can't cancel unless there's some sort of immediate and unavoidable danger to the lives of attendees and event staff like a hurricane or flash flood or something.

>>70307466
If they do, it's selectively enforced. Like everything else so maybe.

>>70313825
I mean their presence, not the con itself. Didn't some organ bail on a con last minute in the past?

>>70313314
It would give nuclear meltdown to not attend, even if it's called Nijigen they would nuke them.
I've also noticed absolutely no Obsydia after the Sajam or am I wrong? I think Gen 2 graduation isreal.

>>70306787
They wouldn't. It will tank their stock more if they do it. They care about their stock more than anything else.

>>70313314
Cons are a fucking tough business. You need every possible advantage you can to just not go bankrupt. You can argue big, already established cons won't even try to touch nijiEN atm, but smaller ones? You bet they don't give a shit.

>>70296924
Tbdesu most nijis are set up for failure, as the niji business model is built around social darwinianism. The more stronger nijis poach the weaker nijis' viewers, until only the strongest remain.
It's impossible to avoid when you pump-and-dump new vtubers so quickly.

>>70314040
Selen, from Anime Impulse this past January, due to "unforeseen reasons". I can't think of any other examples.

>>70314047
That's their problem and why they could do anything, restoring goodwill reuires either a) a blood sacrifice which could lead to a talent revolt tanking their stock price b)paying people off c)showing contrition which can seen as a sign of weakness but is the most effective and cost efficient way of restoring good will. I don't work for them. I've just worked for a few companies that have been in PR shitstorms as bad if not worse than this but handled infinitely better, so one way or the other they will pay a price.

>>70294143
Petra is a pussy.

It was hot that elira removed pomu's mod powers and pomu could only stand there and cry like a titless loser cuckold while elira sexually harassed rosemi by asking her if her ass was fat enough that she could twerk and asked her to twerk for her while she was drunk. Horrid tumblr wenches corrupting cute girls is based.

>>70291069
When can Xsoleils start putting in grad notices? Doppio should graduate for his own sake

>>70300197
There is a counter to that strategy:
>treat your talents well
>provide proper support
>talents stay
>company grows
Black companies hate this one simple trick.

>>70310218
Yes, the company that has TWO niji refugees will absolutely defend Nijisanji.

>>70304741
iirc, Linus from ltt sold some startup's prototype at an auction after shitting on it and then doubled down. His views seem par for the course as of now, in the millions.

>>70319475
Theyvalso got hit with the sexual harassment allegations, like the whole thing being run like a frat party

>>70319475
They gave him the prototype to review, he shit all over it and kept it, then some intern put it up for auction which someone rightfully purchased and sent it back to the creators

>>70291225
Scarle is actually making a decent amount and she would be an actual -1view anywhere else. She'll be the last one standing.

>>70292107
If Alban werent in that spot I'd say you'll bingo first with mid row.

>>70310504
Burger Morbid

>>70320461
As long as she can get another good looking hot latina model and play into it I think she could recover, specially since decently respected currently

>>70315239
That's what she wants us to believe.

nothing is gonna happen tomorrow, if there is some kind of announcement between friday and sunday i will held hands with everyone on this board

>>70322700
Which nijiEN member is that?

>>70319475
The big difference between the Linus fiasco to this nijiEN fiasco was that, yes, Linus stupidly did double down. Then he got called out by Gamers Nexus, big time, and they had to apologize and admit they they really screwed up and did change (considering the other promise they made, which is to stop daily uploads and to stop fucking up numbers, seem to have hold up). Not to mention this has been the only big incident Linus have been involved with where they screwed up this badly.

NijiEn has a long history of monumental fuck ups that would've made even someone as stuborn and migher-than-thou' Linus go "Holy shit, we better do something about this.". NijiEN hasn't simply doubled-down, but triple, quadruple, and quintuple-down.

So the right answer is "no, its not very often when youtubers do fuck ups as monumental as this one."

Except, you know, assault of cheese pizza allegations.

>>70310015
Manwhore, many such cases

>>70306370
Fucking up the unfuckupable does seem to be par for the course for Anycolor

>>70300197
It only works with Nijisanji

>>70316403
>Iluna debuted 2022/07/25
>Kyo graduates 2024/02/17
> Kyo was likely in graduation que
>xSoleil debuted 2022/12/10

We can infer from this that xSoliel members contracts ended around 2023/12/10 so that would he the earliest they could apply to graduate, although they'll be stuck in the graduation que after that so we probably won't see an xSoleil graduation until June