/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>70230995
Shit company, Nene is the only decent talent.

>>70231068
They have some ok girls but holy shit the management will absolutely bleed the fans dry at every opportunity. Dunno if I saw something similar in other corpos to be honest.

Bump I want people to see this.

That ASMR costed 500$ btw.

>they trusted the girl with the debut day yab
roru retards

>>70232308
https://youtu.be/96FbbvN87lQ?t=169
kek what the fuck
I don't think she knows what asmr is

>>70230995
Corpos are a joke

>I bought a 100 yen ASMR bundle from dlsite and it was over 12 hours.
>There's literally free stuff on youtube from actual vtubers too.
>Even corpo ones that will do stuff like give you a countdown.
>Even Hololive and Nijisanji girls give you an hour long freebie
Is the price you pay for being EOP? There's so much ASMR options especially around new years and valentines..

Rans design is pure sex.

>>70230995
Not trying to defend Kawaii as a corpo but dono incentives in general are just nice gestures as a thank you for tipping. You're not paying for shit.

>>70230995
>anon is mad he sent money and didn't get the attention he thinks he deserved
lmao
lol lol

>>70232834
It's not that I couldn't find a free ASMR video out there. It's the idea that she thought 3 minutes of her attempting to do ASMR is worth 500 bucks. I think even if she did 30 mins of whispering, brushing and tapping or something like that, would be much much better than 3 minutes of...whatever this was.
>>70233051
So they have the right to put whatever as a dono incentive and then not deliver under the excuse of it's just a tip anyways, deal with it?

>>70232834
I've been using a dlsite fetish asmr voice pack as my fap material for like the past two months, the value per dollar is incredible

>>70232834
Sure, there's a lifetimes worth of the asmr for free on YouTube if that's what you want. As ever with this kind of thing, you do it to support a specific talent you like or really want to see particular content from.
In this case, anyone who supported for the content is likely to feel short changed. Even people who just threw in to support not really caring about the asmr itself might feel underappreciated, but I don't know what her fanbase is like.

>>70234275
>but I don't know what her fanbase is like
She has like 5 fans from her PL that came along to support her. The rest is just core fans of other kawaii girls giving her pity views because she had a huge yab during debut time.
She basically talked to her bf on her corpo twitter account and made him a mod.
Since the yab, tweets were deleted and he was removed from his mod position.

>$500 donothon goal for ASMR
Well, this one was for the goal that was set around $15,000 if I remember right.
https://youtu.be/GxO2BWogt70

>>70234596
I mean that is a good effort from someone that doesnt do ASMR, I dont think anyone would feel scammed by that

When did Ran do a donothon? I just checked all her streams from her monetization stream till now and don't see anything labeled as a donothon. Kaya and Yuno have both done them but I don't think Ran has? It's mostly Yakuza and model building stuff.

>>70234892
It wasn't a donothon just your regular dono incentive that kawaii introduced for all the girls.
They also introduced patreon and multie tiered memberships. Way too greedy for what they actually offer.

>>70232632
Most vtubers don’t, but Nene does and she’s a DM away…

>>70234732
>30x the price
>only 20x the length

>monthly dono goal list
I think there would be much less issue if the expectation was a short voicepack, but some of these are still insane.

>>70234596
https://twitter.com/RocaRourin/status/1740083652812251617
it was a 2k milestone on a donothon and she delivered an hour+ of triggers and roleplay

>>70234449
>She basically talked to her bf on her corpo twitter account and made him a mod.
How can you be so utterly retarded to do that in a GFE corpo of all places?

>>70235047
Kawaii had Peony doing her shitty RPs and calling it ASMR for 6 months, available resource clearly doesn't always fix the issue.

>>70235122
He was with her even on her PL account so I guess they thought it's normal. I thought that the management or at least other kawaii girls would tell her about it but apparently not.
Or maybe she wanted to filter the GFE crowd out on purpose by showing that.

>>70235185
Yeah that too was incredibly low effort. "Yandere" ASMR with a barely soft spoken voice. Ended up sounding completely inorganic, like someone is reading a users manual or something.

>>70235062
So I guess this one will come later then? I haven't heard her talk about it on stream at least.

>>70235688
There's two of those? Holy shit nice

>>70235185
Yeah and sadly she is still doing it. Maybe Nene doesn’t want to help them or let others encroach on her niche

>>70234596
>nurse RP asmr
if rp doesn't stand for rape i don't care

>>70237973
Dude it's not like doing ASMR is some top secret knowledge. You can google everything these days. AZki did ASMR for the first time ever (for free) and it was pretty decent.

No Nene schitzopost today, huh?

>>70230995
>>70232521
I literally don't know any girls from this company other than Nene and Lua. What did this chick do? Her model is super sex.

>>70240437
She has a boyfriend

>>70240437
read the thread >>70234449

>>70230995
pretty cute stuff, thanks OP

NDF targeting small corpos now too?

>>70240957
Nami from Kawaii is literally friends with Elira. She even liked her comeback tweet yesterday.
Are you just that brainrotten that you keep throwing out buzzwords no matter the context?

>>70231068
Both of the first 2 gens are good, Yuno seems alright as well and Kaya is meh to me.

>>70230995
Ehhhh I've seen worse but this is not THAT bad. Like yeah it could have been longer at least for 500 bucks.

>>70233144
>So they have the right to put whatever as a dono incentive and then not deliver under the excuse of it's just a tip anyways, deal with it?
Yes, unironically. They're a small corpo, so if you don't like it, you're supposed to just leave. The reason it works (well, maybe. Kawaii could be secretly collapsing like VReverie was, but we don't know yet) is that you don't want to abandon the girls.
Long term, I don't think it's a good idea to underdeliver on these promises. But short term, yes: they absolutely can get away with it.

>>70240437
>Her model is super sex.
It's literally dollar store Mito.

ay ay stop fucking around here and make the /pkg/ thread

>>70239635
>>70237973
Peony is a zoomer in college, this is her hobby. Nene is a steely hag who worked for 3 or 4 years out of college before she realized that ASMR vtubing is easier. They cannot be the same because Nene wants that Cloudcuck money.

>>70234449
>>70235122
Well I have no issue with her personally, but to paraphrase the words of GODliaga GODyin, if she has a boyfriend he's the one who should financially support her.

>>70247632
Aliacuck Cuckin got cucked by Vesper and Magni

>>70235047
What do you mean a DM?

>>70235062
>$800 for TWO skebs
I know the point of dono goals is to milk money, but holy shit that's highway robery. You can spend 400-500 a MONTH and get 4 skebs from extremely good artists if you just look for more than 2 minutes. Japs don't have the same autism western artists have where a dogshit nu-tumblr SKETCH costs 500+.

>>70251479
charzu from kawaii does a members skeb every month, she's even admitted most all of the money she gets from membership goes to the commissions that members come up with and vote on.
yin and yang of the industry as far as greed

>>70231068
not even nene is worth a watch unless you are a simp cuck because she is one of those asmr whore grifters

We like Ran here

>>70253150
/here/ is not /pkg/ cockroach crawl back into your black company hole

>>70253150
Based.

>>70247799
and where are Vesper and Magni now? DAS RITE

>>70251479
then where are the new isla skebs, coomknight? nice to see youre still a blogposting faggot, broke, AND an anti now. im sure isla would be super proud of you, especially considering you donate even less now than you did when you kept commissioning porn of her. kill yourself desu. for the unaware- archive search skebknight/skebanon/coomknight/hedercoom so you too can point and laugh at this schizo clown.

>>70230995

>>70231068
Watch Isla

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZ07UgL0wz0

>>70251479
You say that but there are those types. They just don’t have much business. And some of the really good (subjective) do charge a ton. Others that are “popular” with over 100-200k Twitter followers can charge like 500 for a piece of art that looks like it’s been compressed 3 times to lose any HD qualities in it.

>>70260260
I forgot to also mention most of the good ones don’t even do skebs. Hell, even the ones that do you can drop $2000 on them and if you’re asking for something slightly harder than a pinup half torso image, they’ll choose the latter 9/10 times, especially if it’s some boring char with a million pieces of worms already done for them.

>>70260883
>pieces of worms
...what?

>>70231068
bad take

>>70230995
Give it up already

>>70267655
Why?

>>70230995
If you want free lenghty ASMR just watch Nene. I don't know about the others, but it pains me to see people shitting on the company coz that could cause my wife to lose opportunities

>>70250774
They're on the same Slack, anonchama...

>>70251479
Just like her 3 minute $500 "ASMR", she'll take the $800 and spend it on the cheapest artists she can find.

>>70252926
She's one of the best at it and VODs are free. If you're financially incontinent then you shouldn't be watching vtubers at all.

>>70230995
I've seen someone sell 15 - 20 second voice tracks for 1000 yen each

>>70272605
Nene just asked you cucks for 8k last week and had to lower it to save face because. Not even some of you smooth brained faggots are dumb enough to fall for the retarded grift that hard. My point being nene is no different and she has her patreon where she nickel and dimes you retards for bottom barrel slop monthly dont make me laugh "his wife he even wrote kek".

>>70275133
For the record, no. She hit over 8K. She just calculated it weirdly by raising and lowering the upper limits of the meter based on patreon and adsense and things. We take care of our tenshi.

>>70274504
if thats the best you got pack it up and go home pizza boy the streets closed

>>70275133
What's your point. She wanted to reach a goal and we helped her. She always delivers what she says she's gonna deliver. Pays attention to chat and streams more than once a day. Basically, we support her bc she's really hardworking, so what's your point?

>>70230995
Cool

who?

>>70232308
I could buy 2 McNuggets at least!

>>70230995
From what I saw, kawaii is the gathering of the most talentless girls in this industry and their management overprices everything. They quite literally have no redeeming qualities so you can say ok maybe they are bad at this, but at least they are good at some other thing. Everything that they do, other corpos do it way better (ASMR, gaming, GFE, zatsu, singing, etc.)

>>70272605
Nene is my wife as well. I rarely watch much of the other kawaii girls but the rest of Eonia is high quality and Novamore is pretty good too. I don't have any opinion on hmz

>>70279440
You clearly haven't seen them. Their singing and covers are high quality and their female gaming is addictive.
They have a bunch of zatsu queens too and Nene's ASMR routinely gets top numbers for a reason.

seethe more poors. it's not a donothon, it's just a monthly incentive. you don't support her so why do you care so much? even if it was a better incentive you would still seethe because you're poor and a faggot.

>>70230995
Anons please, I'm begging you. Stop giving money to anime bitches on the internet

>>70230995
10 bands a mic still sucks at asmr
honestly bars

>>70234449
And people are still supporting this girl after that???

>>70232834
>100 yen ASMR bundle from dlsite
link pls

>>70239635
Then why do the vast majority do zero research, fail to do it properly, and then abandon the whole thing? I know it’s easy.

>>70231068
Nope, she's a piece of shit. Super petty and weird.

Someone did fanart of her graduated genmate and she threw enough of a tantrum that management went and deleted her channel & VODs to make her stop.

>>70281164
Kawaii fans are turbo cucked. Whenever someone says that kawaii is full of "unicorns" i always laugh my ass off. Their new gen all debuted with bf's.

>>70280100
Stop lying, they are mid as fuck.

>>70281164
half of kawaii fans want a male gen

>>70283688
Funny that people call them unicorns when they have no issue with males. Also the majority of their fans aren't even on vt, they have their own discords that they use.

>>70283688
they are getting a new gen full of niji fangirls and some of their chuubas support male vtubers, a male gen is not too farfetched now

>>70234449
>tweets were deleted
Damn I wanted to laugh

>>70283935
Can possibly find screencaps if you back search enough

>>70283688
Because several of their groomer fans are already pretty much geared up to be vtubers. That was the ultimate goal of some of them.

When kawaii gen 3 debuted, Peony (current Airi Viridis) attracted a huge pay pig called Akane that literally said at one point "I am becoming what I hated the most" (a groomer that becomes a vtuber just to collab with his oshi). He never ended up collabing with her but he is currently orbiting around a lot of 1views.

That is the sad reality of a lot of male vtubers. People that don't want to watch mixed collabs are right. I want CGDCT entertainment, not a flirty Niji lite reality show slop.

>>70284172
This is another issue with kawaii its fanbase is a deep cesspit filled with two faced groomer creeps. The type of creeps that make news headlines at some point in life because they turn out to be a ted bundy type or some shit like that.

>>70283688
Wasn't it just half of Charzu chat? what percentage also watch everyone or most members?

>>70235047
If she knows, why doesn't she fix her mic so the plosives don't pierce my fucking ears? It fucking hurts just listening to her take a breath in, and breathing is one of my favorite triggers

>>70282179
Because they don't care.

is kawaii pro the corpa that had a whole gen graduated

>>70230995
What was the corpo that demanded all girls offer a "discord date" for several hundred dollars? Was it CL? Or early phase?

>>70284425
I've been in small corpo and holo fanbases. Nothing says a "healthy" fanbase like Saplings mass reporting (so they get shadwbanned) or downvoting someone because Fauna gave them a bit too much attention during one stream.

That is just a pretty common thing in vtubing. Niji likes to brag about being a complete opposite of that but we saw Luxiem's cancerous fanbases and niji sisters in general. No one who is in a "healthy" parasocial relationship acts like that.

Meh. Just got into Kawaii, so either you're all fags or I can sit and watch the shit show. Win-win

>>70285256
yeah
>>70285269
Cyberlive but that got phased out after like a week