/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

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>This post is extremely low quality

>>70202972
At least Hololive didn't stop her from releasing it unlike Nijisanji

absolute tourist

>>70202972
go be retarded elsewhere sister

buy an ad

>>70202972
Both may be in debt, but at least Okayu's MV was released so that she can earn revenue to compensate the loss, while Selen received total loss plus punishment

>>70202972
>whining that poorly monetizable or unmonetizable videos don't bring in the profits and vanity videos don't get reimbursed
Why are EOP always like this?

>>70203253
>she can earn revenue to compensate the loss
Not even you would actually believe this if you thought it through for a second.

did okayu attempt suicide and then got terminated for it?

>>70202972
Cover provide yearly favor for everyone 3 times a year, more if that talent reached a new milestone. Okayu used hers for the titty outfit so she had to took a loan this time

How kind of cover to foot the bill and allowing talent to pay in installments instead of making empty promises and making the talent paying hefty sum in one go!

>>70202972
>Wanted an expensive new MV
>Asked company for help
>Company paid for the MV in advance so no monetary issues happen midway
>Only started asking her to pay when the MV released

That's what I got from the video. What's the issue? Selen said she got no help at all. While this shows there was help through and through.

>>70202972
>pay out of your own pocket for.
>pay out with the company's salary
Okayu makes more money in merch sell than your whole family tree's net worth put together you shit eating sister

>>70203480
There is no issues, sisters are desperate and they can't fathom the idea of Hololive girls living comfortably without a salary lmfao

>>70202972
The problem wasn't Selen having to pay for it, that was expected. The problem was that Nijsanji as a company needed to be the intermediary in paying the invoices for the work that they approved and failed to do so after several months, burning the producer/mixer/artists/etc. involved in the MVs creation.

Cover gives them yearly music video allowances, if they go over then they have to pay themselves.
There's nothing wrong with this and anything else wouldn't make sense.

>>70202972
>half a year of their income on an MV!
>he think the baseline salary ALL the Hololive girls get is their total incomes
LOL
LMAO EVEN

>Cover provides talents 0 interest loans
>this is a bad thing

Can you at least post the clip instead of just the clickbait thumbnail.

>>70203625
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgJUSLxqsWo

>>70203620
I mean financially it is. as covers are essentially expensive vanity projects.

>>70203620
Yeah that's another thing I basically got from this. 0% interest.
Also installments instead of full pay.

The OP just made Cover looked good in the end.

>>70203054
Nijisanji said wait we need to check and Selen went guerilla style. Fuck her.

>>70203608
When holos talk about getting no salary they actually mean the total payment they get monthly from cover. Cover foots the bill on these projects and then withholds their payment for the difference.

>>70202972
>the salary was garnished
>only the salary, allowing her to still get money for merch, sponsorships, voice packs, etc.
>the video RELEASED and everybody was paid
What's the issue here?

>>70202972
>1 year worth of savings to survive these 6 months
>Cover offers full support
>mv was actually released, it's a succes, everyone is happy
vs
>negligible

>>70203620
Yes
>t. Investor Ojisan

>>70203701
based retard

>investing in a MV for an IP you don’t own
elmao

>>70203687
NTA but I agree, and people should start seeing it like this.

>>70203620
So gracious. I think more employees should do this. McDonalds employees should get zero interest loans for their uniforms and grill spatulas.

>>70203788
You think Okayu can pay for a fully animated MV with 6 months of the baseline salary?
She literally says in the video she is not getting any income whatsoever for the next 6 months.

>>70203360
They probably think that if EN doesn't release expensive MV it's because Cover doesn't fund them whild the truth is that they just can't/don't want to unlike JPs

>>70203858
Sure, if the McDonald's worker insists on buying a vanity gold spatula for some reason.

>>70203753
No, they say salary but they mean their total payment from Cover which is monthly.
All the merch money, etc, moves through Cover and Cover calculates their cut off that.

>>70203891
Don't underestimate all the merch/sponsor the JPs have, a popular member like Okayu can clearly make 500k in 6 months

>>70203691
they didnt need to check if they could use their own livers.
They knew the contents of the MV way before and couldve checked at any time in production instead of blocking it at the last moment.
They also answered over a day later and demanded a reply from selen within 10 minutes.

>>70204000
Yeah that's what I'm saying. She's paying with all her merch income for the next 6 months.

>NDFsisters tries to shit on hololive
>only proves why hololive is superior
KEK

OP’s faggotry aside, I’m confused as to why they invest so much into these music videos.

1. The 0% interest is made up. We don't know how much the video did cost, could have been 5 months worth of salary and they took 6.
2. There got to be some legal reasons. To not trigger the japanese equivalent of the IRS and/or other stuff, a private person paying instead of a corpo.

Okayu has the most memberships out of any vtuber in the industry
She is the only vtuber that not only has views on her members vods that range in the 100k but is reaching 200k

If you think she has no money for a outfit you are braindead

From this video i learned the company supposedly paid the artist first. meanwhile kurosanji abandoned the artist without any contact.
nice thread Nijinogs

>>70204127
They want to make fans happy and it gives extra traffic and brand recognition. Covers and MVs don't directly pay for themselves but the boost for the channel makes it worth it.

>>70204127
Marine did show how big an original animated MV can get. If you do not run adblock that's at least 2 ads in 2:30-4 minutes. Most online users today don't use Desktop PCs or adblocks.

>>70202972

>>70204145
Legal reason being that they own the content therefore the company has to pay for it. If Okayu paid for the invoices under her real namey she would own the product wholly.

>>70204275
Animated MVs are made by a professional studio, not just one artist from their basement. No way they would do it without downpayments.

>>70202972
>You have advanced 1 position in the queue for the yacht ride

>>70202972
>use her 6 months pay check to make MV...
>cover pay their streamer each month with month salaries...
nijisheet...

>>70202972
>Clip
>Drama
>Sure Nijisanji, but what about Hololive
Sisters and their mental illness is so tiring

>>70203400
The MV isn't monetized?

>>70203988
Fuck off Sponge bob.

>>70204754
It's a retard. Only cover songs that the girls cant monetize

>>70202972
so true sis

>>70204754
You made me look. I just got a pre-roll ad for her MV you fucking retard.

>>70202972
I wonder how long the livers will break even with their investments in the MV.
If it gets as popular and viral as Treasure Box, maybe less than a year.
Maybe that's why Cover offers a huge cut in the merch to offset the loss

>>70203891
>She literally says in the video she is not getting any income whatsoever for the next 6 months.
She literally don't. Stop using words you don't know what they mean.

>>70203988
that golden spatula won't let him make faster burgers and be a better employee, but okayu releasing MV will contribute to her channel. which cover should be providing for, instead of billing her LMAO

>>70203691
Based

>>70204560
Yeah, big companies getting fucked by other big companies is completely unheard of, right?

>>70202972
retard

>>70204042
This. Nijinaggers will misrepresent what happened to the end of time. But we save the receipts on the chain of events.

Them lying just shows how little their word is worth.

>>70205083
>LMAO
Trying too hard sis.

>>70205083
>that golden spatula won't let him make faster burgers and be a better employee
Explain Spongebob then, faggot

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>>70204986
Holo sisters are coping right now

>>70205267

>>70205426
>Hurr durr fit in
>tourist who came last week and brought her sister shit
Fuck you

Nijisanji will drain your money and either give you nothing in return or actually take from you. Cover will drain your money but give you loans, opportunities, artists and animators, and you get a significant portion of the ad cents earned by your project. We are not the same.

>>70205131
>This is a rectangle, not a square
>Sometimes rectangles are squares though!
What are you even arguing?

>>70205518

I'm happy to constantly remind everyone that Gura and Marine have spent an insane amount of personal funds on their own animation projects. They're just that committed to the craft and elevating the brand they work with.

Let's not forget that Cover doesn't steal the awards earned by its talents.

the sheer amount of goalpost moving in this thread by holobronies. You don't even need to get defensive just remember next time you're antiposting that hololive and nijisanji have the same business practices

>>70205798
They don't though. Or did you forget that Nijisanji used its livers as shields against criticism?

>>70203772
No 0% interest loans are literally the best thing for an investor. They are literally free money because inflation decays the loan meaning by the completion of the loan you will have actually made money paying it off.

>>70205267
>no argument
>has to resort to 'YOU LOOK LIKE THIS'
Nijifags are pathetic.

>>70205798
>the same business practices
In a parallel universe, maybe?

>>70205798
Retard no company will foot the bill for projects that aren't guaranteed profit makers. Literally many girls in holo have said they lose money releasing covers and music videos because they need to do it for exposure.
How does it make sense to provide money for free viewable content in the first place? You guys are retarded.

>>70205953
To be fair we don't know what interest they give her. She said nothing about it.

>>70205798
what is even the point of trying to drag holo into your sewer of shit? everyone knows the culture is night and day.

>>70205798
> https://ssl4.eir-parts.net/doc/5032/ir_material_for_fiscal_ym2/137288/00.pdf
>https://contents.xj-storage.jp/xcontents/AS05169/8b8f1dd7/e496/4759/be9d/d0b615b2b131/20230612180242646s.pdf
What a bald-faced lie, Cover spends 55x as much on management because they aren't Scrooge Mcduck levels of stingy.

>>70205952
>No argument
>Calls everyone who remotely criticizes holo a sister
Kill yourself

>>70206030
It's advertising investment because it drives channel engagement. They do give them an allowance for MVs but that's nowhere near enough to cover a fully animated MV, which will easily go into triple digits K USD.

>>70206101
Holy NIJISEETHE

>>70206083
>Managment
>Argument was about personal funding MVs
Nice goalposts shift there faggot

>>70206151
Point proven. Faggot

>>70206101
>Kill yourself
Fuck off Elira.

>>70205798
>BUT HOLOLIVE
every time

>>70206155
>Insists their business practices are the same
>show that they're not
>muh goalposts
SEA or chink?

>>70206353
Lel, I misread. That 55x times includes salaries and projects as well.

NDF doesn't get it at all.
With Niji, the company doesn't pay the initial cost, can't pay it off, and hasn't even announced the music video.

>>70203584
This. Newfags won't know this though.
Same with concerts and all that, they get some allocation. (that was just changed recently if I remember right, I forgot what was changed though)
Some choose do the basic route whereas others go well out of their way to make turbo godly MVs by known studios / artists and the like.
I always respect the ones that do that. Likewise the ones running projects for the community at large.
People shit on Ame a lot but I respect her for all the shit she does behind the scenes. She's quite literally Holo-Selen in fact, almost even in personality because they are both rage-goblins kek
Nijisanji lost a lot when they went full-retard with Selen. I really hope upper management bring down the banhammer on whoever fucked with her. I doubt it, but I hope.

The only problem I can see with this is that we don't know the cost distribution between her and the company.
Realistically Okayu would only ever get 50% of the direct returns for the project because all Youtube revenue is split between the talent and the company. So the direct and indirect profits from it, channel ad revenue and channel boost, would be shared between both of them.
In that case, her having to foot 100% of the MV bill would be unfair.
But you could also argue that the increase in brand recognition by the video would directly translate to more merch sales, which have a better cut for her, but in my opinion that wouldn't make up the 100% difference.
Question is how much did Cover pay out of the total and how much did Okayu pay and we don't know that.

>>70202972
Way to out yourself. We have known this for two years at least you dumb newfag

It's hilarious, how out of 95 posts there is not a single good counter argument, only holobrowns seething and coping.

Would be nice if dramafags and newfags who refuse to lurk more will do a group sudoku, maybe we will have more peace going forward
And please bring along the console kiddies as well

>>70207849
Blindchama, there is no argument because this is essentially a 0% interest loan with no fixed timeframe to pay, something Niji could never and would never offer.

I really pity those Nijifags who can't accept reality.
They will never be able to get in the same ring unless the company first does the deed of paying for it.

>>70207368
Hololive wasn't always like that. Anons memory hole it or are tourists. Anyone remembers the PPT accident? After that their merch policy changed. The whole permission craziness? It was always Managment not giving a shit, letting the talents fall on their face and then change things. I can't believe the let their talents expose their fingers on one stream.

>>70207849
retards like you make clipwatchers look good in comparison

>>70206353
>Chink
Then why are you on this board you retarded faggot

Why throwing random shit at holo? Aren't you guys need to fight with that fat fuck and her twitch allies first?

And just to prove my words about holobrowns only being able to cope and seethe, here are 2 fresh examples:
>>70207982
>>70208140

>>70205518
>seethe

>>70202972
>>Cover is good, not like Nijisanji!
yes

>>70207982
Lets be fair here, first off we don't know how much interest they charge her, secondly even if the pure monetary sum was 0%, the "interest" return they get for loaning her the money is the direct revenue split they get from the MV.
It's financially not gonna be a no profit game for them.

>>70208238
>>70205426

>>70208209
Fat fuck with bleed herself out of money with all her lawsuits and go deep into debts until she'll beg for forgiveness. No need to fight someone who willingly hurts themselves.

>>70208238
t. sister furiously digging into her fifth pint of ice cream

>>70204754
unless you get like 30mil views on it you arnt making back shit.

>>70206043
Cover recieves a certain cut from the MV and/or considers the interest as keeping the talents happy for essentially no cost to them.

I mean I've worked jobs that offer "loans" for product and equipment. It's usually a pretty low fixed payment and a tax write-off for the employee.

That last part is actually why dumping money into MVs that operate as a lose is beneficial to talents because they can use the lost money to harvest tax lose. A lot of people pointed out Doki can claim her lost money on taxes.

Seems everyone forgot the video *three years ago* of Matsuri talking about how all personal work choices are paid out of pocket, which includes mvs. Or marine explaining the same thing. Or idolcorp releasing a barebones explanation of where the income money goes.

But don't worry, ndf, this is still not a spin in your black company's favor. The artists comments about selen paying out of pocket were NOT about this. They were expecting by contract to be paid by the company, and the company was always tardy with this, and selen had to pay out of the regulated channel for that.

Your company is still black, so rest your little heart.

>>70208383
the only one bleeding is niggersanji and their remaining talent that miss their valentine season sister KEK

>>70208238
not either of those anons, but you are retarded because you somehow think the company paying in advance while the talent compensates in installments and being told to pay it all yourself in advance are the same thing.
If you really can't see the financial difference, you are financially illiterate (aka, poorfag SEA).

>>70206043
>>70208294
Lamy has talked about this, Cover will offer them an advance for whatever they want and it just gets paid off from their future earnings at 0%.
None of them are hurting for money, anyway, now Cover's financials are public we can see that they each earn over a million dollars a year on average.

>>70208552
It'd be pretty funny if said contracts had late payment damages and Selen actually saved Anycolor's ass by paying the artists upfront. Surely this company wouldn't repay good with evil, right?

>>70208666
>over a million dollars a year
Yen, actually.
As it was leaked that they are usually working for 360$

>>70208238
>okayu explain how the mv was made
>with cover support and footing the bill
> 0% interest rate with staggered payment and no timeframe
>fans are happy getting an ori song mv
>okayu is happy her fans are happy eith the mv

NDF
>hahahah cover is also black company
>pushing a negative narrative from a positive statement from the talent
>haha holobronies coping and seething

I dunno what mental illness this sister have and im just laughing at their delusional take to spin and make a narrative

>>70203690
>0% interest
Based cover against ursury.

>>70208833
anon you do know it's just shitposter right? At this point you are not insulting nijisister's intelligence, you are insulting mankind's.

>>70208833
NDFsisters' brains run on blowjob ASMRs and expired ice cream, pls andastand

>>70208788
Anon you can't just make things up on the internet when their financial report is public. More than 50% of Cover's expenses are talent remuneration, they even had shareholders complaining that it was too much

>Cover: we have a budget for projects, if you want more you will have to finance them with your own money.
>we will still help you manage them.
>we will take a significant, but overall fair percentage of the profits.
>Nijisanji: we have a shoestring budget for projects, if you want to do anything you will have to pay everything yourself
>we will not help you in anything, in fact we will do everything in our power to get in your way if we don't like you.
>for all your work, here your single digit percentage of the profits.

>>70208833
>Holowhores go in corpo debt for cover songs and have to slave away to repay
>Literally 16 tons sort of shit
>But no, Holo is good
LMAO, holobrowns are so retarded

>>70208788
Poor Aunt Niji thinks Niji's leak is Holo's leak.

>>70202972
We quoted Moona too many times in this board to debunk your accusation. What's not normal is when you do it all yourself and management throws a hissy piss at your hard work because they failed to check the boxes in the agreed deadlines.
Cover also had that happen for them, check out the Mumei "Dan dan chikaku naru" incident. But oddly enough for Selen's friend, it didn't happen as horribly. Go figure why.

>>70208982
>Makes shit up by completely mis-interpreting financial report
>Completely ignores an actual leak of the payment they receive for their work (360$)
Another time holobrowns exposed themselves being dumb as a pile of rocks.

>>70208552
Almost like they were owed money because Selen opened her fat mouth before getting approval like usual.

>>70209039
>But no, Holo is good
yes

>>70209138
Have you thought about taking some classes in reading and math instead of spending your time shitposting on a Mongolian basket weaving forum

>>70209054
>Holonigs trying to memoryhole holo being an actual black company paying even less than niji's "2%"
Like a perfect clockwork

>>70208552
>They were expected by contract to be paid by the company
First, show the contracts where this happened. Second, who gives a fuck what artist think. They don't know what goes on behind closed doors in Niji

>>70209138
>>actual financial report
>>"leak" of the payment they receive for their work (360$)
retardedsisterchama

>>70209217
>taking some classes in reading and math
Your constant participation in /#/ circlejerk isn't a math class. Those retards (including you, of course) can't into simple arithmetic.

>>70209216
>>Holonigs trying to memoryhole holo being an actual black company paying even less than niji's "2%"
you can't memoryhole something that never real to begin with retarded nijisister,don't forget the meds first

>>70209258
>mis-interpreting
You forgot that, blind-anon
>"leak"
Leak is a leak, it's rock-solid compared to your retarded "calculations"

>>70209287
Anon there is no arithmetic involved in reading a line item on a financial report (which is legally required to be accurate)

>>70209001
See from a purely business standpoint Nijisanji is fucking retarded. If the talents are willing to take on the risk of making MVs, merch and so on then the money is better left in their hands and then you can scoop up the royalties for using your IPs.

If you are a business just sitting on mountains of cash it shows you have either reached a point like a Power Plant where you sort of own the market and there is nothing to really as in the short term or you have no idea what to spend your money on and it is getting slaughtered by inflation.

And you can't say the money goes back into the business with how cheap they are when it comes to paying managers and lawyers 8 fucking dollars an hour.

Like on the surface it looks like a fine company. Good cash flow tons of cash on hand but... you don't do anything with it so it is meaningless.

>>70209230
>They don't know what goes on behind closed doors in Niji
you know what goes on behind in niji? spill it sister,oh wait,scrap that,niji already expose it themself by self report LMAO

>>70209342
Make a screenshot of a live that clearly shows "Talent income". Not expenses, not percentages, an actual income. If you can't than you are just a brown, lying 3'rd worlder.

>>70209336
>Leak is a leak, it's rock-solid compared to your retarded "calculations"
yes leak is not actual report retardedsisterchama,take the meds first

>>70209230
> who gives a fuck what artist think
The artist has a closer official relationship with them than you or I do.
This is easy:
1) Niji shits on selen
2) artist calls niji on their lie
> we are here
Will niji shows docs to back their claim? Will artists? Will (you)? We are working with circumstancial evidence and precedent.
And boy, does niji have precedent. Even before any of the en-related incidents, the company has three nuked branches, and all of them had more or less the same failure points.

So yeah. Said artists are more likely to be speaking the truth than the black company.

holy shit holo and niji both make bank for their shareholders the same way by fucking over their workers they are literally like every other publically traded company in the world I am astounded

Sisters you're fighting on too many fronts here, you gotta step back and figure out a plan to take down that dastardly do-gooder doki.

>>70209385
Riku did say in an interview that he wasn't really interested in the vtuber industry in itslef, only the opportunity for a quick profit.
It was at that moment that I decided to never get invested in Nijisanji, nothing good ever happens when your CEO has a mentality like that

holoniji trannysister corporate merger was always on the cards

>>70209527
>fighting
In the same sense a monkey flinging its own poop around is 'fighting', I guess

>>70202972
Nice clickbait faggot.
But desu we knew for years that Hololive is not paying for girls' private project and only cover stuff used for promotions. You did not discovered some grand criminal scene, it's common.
What is not common is companies taking down private project AFTER it was completed and published without previously informing their star about it.
But I guess you don't want to understand this difference and are just literal bugman stuck under Yacht-kun's desk with his wimpy cock stuck between your teeth.

>>70209654
Now try saying that without crying

>>70204198
She literally CANNOT have money. They’re not taking a specific amount, they are just giving her nothing.

wait you mean to tell me that holojannys do it for free?

>>70205952
Nijiniggers are either women or homosexual men, and often from Southeast Asia. You're asking way too much here.

>>70209836
You first, Nijinigger.

>Nijisisters proving once again that they are nothing but vermin

>>70202972
Sounds like holo actually paid the contractors promptly to me.
Definitely better than niji on that alone

>>70202972
You know how Selen had to pay out of pocket because Anycolor wasn’t making its payments? This is what they were supposed to have done.

>>70202972
>Phasekek doesn't know shit about holo
Many such cases.

>>70206353
Don’t sign your posts.

>>70202972
so true sis

based holotrannys starving their talent so it's too weak to kill itself like a nijisister

Holo won and is the only form of vtubing. You can keep crying and seething now trash.

>>70209654
Where was this fucker when Watame said that her superchat revenue for the next several months after a song release was going toward payments? Does he only care because Nijisanji won’t even do that much? Is this just the first translated clip talking about it?

>>70208788
Internal, optional 360$ bounty for playing amogus for two hours after the conclusion of the sponsorship.

Ironically disproves your assertion too because no one wanted the money enough to do it and Kiara had to tardwrangle people.

>>70209230
>Second, who gives a fuck what artist think. They don't know what goes on behind closed doors in Niji
I'm pretty sure they know more than you, retard-sama, by virtue of having actually done any work in their life directly for Nijisanji and thus having done business with them.

They would know what the company told them on how they would be paid.

no.. holobronies

>>70202972
i asked

>>70209409
1168 Million JPY Talent remuneration, which means outgoing money paid to the Talents.
Cover currently has 86 Talents, which makes an average of 13.5 Mil Yen gross quarterly. Which translates to almost 90k USD, quarterly, for the mathematically average talent.

>>70204294
>makes it worth it.
Financially? Most of them are money losers, Moona talked about that before, they mostly do it for fun and to give their fan something.

They are both scumbags. But one has brain and another is fucking retarded.

>>70213848
See it as a marketing investment. It doesn't give direct returns but the increased channel metrics and fan goodwill leads to more sales in other segments.

>>70214170
I don't think most of them even do that, I mean sure if you get a 10 million hit it probably pays for itself, but most Covers don't reach that.

>>70203996
>they

>>70202972
thank SK and kpop fans for this shit, they made it the norm.

>>70216249
Anonchama.... it's a plural...

>>70213754
63 without stars.
Also I think I've read that top 20 talents get like astronomically bigger cut, like, in a million USD range. I don't have the pic, so ask someone else

>mfw the billionare multicorporate bootlickers are at each other's throats again
Watch indies
Quit being cucks

>>70216249
Holy RETARD

>>70208833
Sister doesn't understand what 0% interest, pay whenever you could even mean, they are literally underage on this board.

>>70202972
>Selen had to PAY HER OWN MONEY for an MV! THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN IN HOLOLIVE!
Who are you quoting?

>>70216249
Putting >>70216674 aside, singular they has been used since the 1700s for cases where the person's sex is unclear.

It's funny Suisei always talks about being broke but nobody watches JP on /vt/.
Hell, Mori has gone on record to explain how her revenue split works and its literally 7 cents out of a dollar actually go to her.
Kobo not too long ago was begging Altare for money and disclosed all of her gen's debt to their managers on twitter
Holofaggots are plain retarded simping for corpos

>>70217030
Mori is a literal retard who pays double taxes for no reason though

>>70216249
Actual brainrot

>>70217030
>Kobo not too long ago was begging Altare for money and disclosed all of her gen's debt to their managers on twitter
That sounds hilarious, source?

>>70216754
This graph includes all talents across holopro because it's Cover's total Cost of sales though.
Also you are correct, historically, the top 20 holos make 60% of the revenue, the top holo makes 4.4%. They're probably grossing millions yearly.

>>70217030
>Hell, Mori has gone on record to explain how her revenue split works and its literally 7 cents out of a dollar actually go to her.
No way someone really fell for that meme image of revenue split kek

>>70217030
>It's funny Suisei always talks about being broke
She doesn't.
Theres not a single instance where money came up and she said she doesn't have enough. In fact she said she makes a lot, just like how people rumor. She just talks about making choices on where to spend how much.

>>70217745
I mean i do remember Suisei way back then talking about the fact she can't spend as much as she want on gacha per month and made a cap at 1K USD. Ye. 1K, USD.
Probably what that sister is talking about, 1K USD on gacha is probably nothing for a retarded sister, and that sister only talk about old thing so she can twist them, lying, like all sisters.

>>70218204
I think that was her credit card limit from back then. And just because she doesnt want to spend that much on gacha doesn't mean she technically couldn't. It just means she still has a brain and doesnt spend frivously, although I would consider her 1k gacha fund a crippling addiction already.

>>70202972
Who the fuck said any of that? Everyone knows that hololive members pay for a lot of things and that they don't fucking care because they are passion projects or they are gonna recover the money in some months

>>70204127
Marketing is the most important thing by far and an MV is a glorified ad.

>>70202972
im sure okayu will be fine even after she did the great mv and her asmr sex model for us and im gonna say her hoodie (https://shop.geekjack.net/collections/nekomata-okayu/products/nekomata-okayu-birthday-celebration-2024-matching-hoodie-with-okayu)) alone will easily put her in the positive for this year

>>70203691
Ah, yes. Needing to check if they have the rights to display characters they created and own the rights to. I really believe a word out of Niji managements mouth.

>>70202972
>imagine being in debt for 6 months because of something you pay out of your own pocket for
that is NOT how paying out of your own pocket works LOLE