/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>7001167
shut up.

>>7001167
So chronoir twitcast only lost 1-2k to new niji apex god? Thats interesting.

>>7001185
You can post number or shut the fuck up

>>7001167
what were the numebrs on lauren apst stream?

>>7001283
he is at 28k so he lost 6k.
likes also slashed in half compared to last stream

>>7001167
This new niji apex guy could be the real deal. or he could be the new Kanon. Stay tuned to future number threads for the trilling conclusion.

>>7001283
I doubt most Chronoir fans would care about Lauren that much anyway, he and Axia haven't even collabed yet while this is Kanae and Kuzuha having their comfy unit anniversary.
If it were Axia streaming it could be different.

>>7001313
When I watched it, it was at 30k, but thanks to Playboard not picking them up and him & Axia not showing up on the Niji bot, I don't know the peak
>>7001283
This is Chronoir's anniversary so of course it's going to pull a lot of listeners, plus there's nearly 0 overlap

>>7001283
Fujoshi seems more faithful to their husbando than male for sure

>>7001359
apex numbers usually fluctuate a lot, some people tune in to endgame only, and he was on pace to do a 4k damage badge

his peak yesterday was 38k, in the same conditions, endgame of a high performance match

>>7001283
Chronoir fans don't watch other vtubers

>from 35k to 30k to 27k
thats a lot of fluctuation

>>7001167
men are taking over

>>7001449
was for >>7001437

>>7001167
Pekora and Aqua are reading superchat, right?

>>7001449
There's a APEX cup going on, they are near the end of last round, we will see when his gay buddy stream in a hour

>>7001482
Aqua is still playing....

>>7001419
Fujoshi are going to listen to audio of their husbandos fucking over some guy playing Apex, they don't give a shit about Apex unless there's two boys fucking

Korone and Aqua both have reclined so hard. Now Miko, Subaru, Suisei(Karaoke) get more ccv than those two.

>>7001496
>22k
so his viewers are just apex autist?

There niji's number is not normal at all, just a week ago, their number was nothing special and then the crazy came in the last few days, I call this bullshit

>>7001449
it was like 28k to 35k (path win) to 27k to 30k (bang win) and now its 24k because he keeps dying early
if he gets a monster game its probably gonna shoot up to 30k again
just a nature of apex. kuzuha, pic related, is similar

>>7001589
No one cares about Lauren other than Apex

>>7001589
who know, number is number

>>7001589
yeah
i heard his past life strength was mostly in collabs, so we will see how it turns out

>>7001599
There should be an IQ test instead of captcha on this site.

>>7001569
Looks like the era of hololive moging is over their numbers be declining like crazy lately man.

>>7001569
krone is in a FFIX part3 and aqua is re8 which is kinda late for the popular wave.
13k is pretty much on par with her other FF stream.

>>7001665
We to plot a graph of their average numbers over time. That way we can see the situation more clearly.

>>7001773
didnt anon here graphed that already in past threads?

>>7001569
Is the column on the right the number of streams?
Can't believe Ayame streamed 7 times this month.

>>7001807
>2020

>>7001797
Only in short periods of time. We need like over 1 year to see the whole picture.

>>7001728
Yep, whereas everyone and their mother has already played it, Aqua is just now getting to it. Also, there's two other Holomem collabs happening right now so she lost 3k people from 17k.

>>7001824
there is another one? i just know about rbc+fbk with ID

>>7001824
hololive audience overlap like crazy huh

>>7001665
>2020

>>7001569
Korone got hit the hardest because of HoloEN. It's a shame, because her content didn't change at all.

>>7001773
like this? avg views of all holo/niji chuubas. only up to may unfortunely.
Yellow is Holo
Grey is Nijisanji
Blue is NijiMale
Orange is NijiFemale

>>7002032
Does this graph include Holostars?

>>7002126
lol

>>7002126
The way the graph is it would be a flat line... Ask graphanon for Stars graphs, he posted some before.

whats up with holoshit these days?

>>7002190
Haato is coming with 100k, don't worry falseflaggerchama.

>>7002190
Maybe Hololive should get a fujobait couple, they are literally just streaming audio of Kuzuha buttonmashing in Pokemon unite, no visuals

>>7002126
> ホロライブJP
Anon… it would be holopro or a line for ホロスターズ

>>7002233
Link?

>>7002212
100k, and for how long? one hour of a prerecorde live? thats it?
seems like their daily content has declined hard

>>7002258
https://twitcasting.tv/kanae_2434
It's the 19k Kanae stream in that image

>>7002032
Yeah, thanks. Something just like this. Pretty sad it's not up to date.
Also would be interesting to see niji's numbers, but instead of taking all members, take top N nembers, where N is amount of current hololive members.

>>7002271
You're still watching falseflaggerchama, no need to be so bitter, your team is still winning, don't worry.

>>7002291
Thanks.
This is supposed to be fujobait?

Don't cry Holobros

>>7002353
yes, men can't play games together in the same room, it's gay.

>>7002353
It's their anniversary, they were talking and eating earlier, now they're just playing pokemon. A waiting room is set up on Chronoir channel with 4.4k people waiting though, god knows when they're moving over there

>>7002389
What do you mean "don't cry"?
The highest Hololive member just got lowered from 7'th place to 9'th place

>>7001414
https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly/
Already posted the link several times.

will haato beat this guy?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0sEMcGHl0E

>>7002353
Yes the button mashing is a euphemism

>>7002443
It says Pokemon Unite.

>>7002460
Probably. But I bet she'll be done with her stream before he finishes. Otherwise her viewers will decline below his.

>>7002389
>ex homostar getting 10k views

>>7001981
Korone plays a lot of debuff games.

>>7002525
He's playing with Hiromoot?

>>7002457
That's pretty strong, considering it is not a big collab, but just a bunch of niji members do their things separately from each other.

>>7002525
Sentan was a homo? Who?

>>7001167
This is a hololive without Kiryu Coco. Hololive without Coco is like eating Curry Rice without using any plates. Completely baseless. Tell me Holobros. How does it feel knowing that from now onwards (You) will be eating off the floor like pathetic dogs. The great Nijisanji incline approaches.

>>7002551
Still… look at the homostar views… they are better off going indie than staying in a female idol company.

>>7002576
Suzaku

>>7002592
I don't see kson in that list.

>>7002609
I wonder if they'll get to the same conclusion and just decide to leave?

>>7002499
yes they're moving over youtube to play pokemon unite for their 3rd anniversary, welcome to your usual chronoir content

>>7002592
I'm not even sure who's more sad there, numbrains obsessed with numbers or falseflagger shitting on holonumbrains while pretending to be a nijisanjinumbrain.

>>7001167
>22k now
this lauren guy is diving hard

>>7002592
out side of reddit meme, Coco was already inclined hard this year

>>7002592
saving this for later

https://twitter.com/akaihaato/status/1418923758522277890
predict the numbers

>>7002626
>Your reading reps
>Dumpster tier

>>7002592
Besides reddit and fucking graduating Coco was not leading Hololive in views lol

>>7002677
Is that just me or the picture doesn't really have a return vibe?

how do we save /r/nijisanji?

>>7002677
80k+ if it's just a comeback stream.
100k if it ends up being a retirement announcement.

>>7002749
Delete it, japs hate reddit.

>>7002677
Under 30k since it's out of the middle of nowhere at midnight. Will jump above 50k if she starts talking about graduation.

>>7002669
Wait what? You meant reclined?

>>7001167
anyone who posts these shit "current live" instead of the daily max should get an autoban

>>7002677
100k for possible drama

>>7002749
Fuck reddit how do we save NijiKR

>>7002677
Peaking at 117k

Chances of Haachama mogging Matsuris birthday stream?

>>7002886
Damn, there are indies who get more views than that.

>>7002728
The title says tadaima, it would be a cruel bait if it was graduation.

>>7002927
Ez, no question she hits 50k at least. >>7002886
You don't. Branch is fucked.

>>7002927
matsuri 3D bday live had the same views as pekora doing nothing in her bday stream.

>>7002649
I hope so. Fuck cover

>>7002668
maybe apex is not his thing

>>7002677
time to collect the paypigs money already? I thought she would drag it for a little longer

>>7002953
It's Haachama though. She just randomly decided to take a break without notifying anyone.

>>7002749
How to save reddit? Make other people know that niji reddit exists.

>>7002927
Quite possible.

>>7002953
Back for her graduation month, just like Coco.

>>7002749
Graduate r/nijisanji for the graduation buff

>only 52k for jun
is gta so much of a debuff compared to pokemon unite and normal zatudans?
how do we save jun?

>>7002749
They're growing, slowly but surely. I believe it was below 10k in December.

>>7002592
It's actually pretty funny that while Cover tried to bury Coco's graduation with a fucking Vsinger. Nijisanji on the other hand dropped two massive bombs back to back. An EN & JP wave. Now we watch as the turn tables.

>>7002677
200k, the Miko comeback stream was 140k, no way Haato has less view than that, holo is more bigger now

>>7003098
He should graduate.

>>7002677
40-50k, random timing, not enough to hype it up

>>7002927
80 perc-
>>7002995
99 percent.

>>7003120
You are retarded

>>7002995
Holy.
120k minimum is possible.
Maybe can reach up to 180k

>>7003120
KYS. You're a disgrace.

>>7003120
Actually you are right. But you are downplaying a little bit. I predict her return will beat Coco graduation numbers. She'll get about 600k-700k

>>7003270
Maybe she'll get 1 million since during the time she spent away, Haatons had time to reproduce and make generations of families.

>>7003151
Cope more nijinigger

>>7003120
>has less view than
>more bigger
You don't know japanese, but can't you at least learn english ESLchama?

>>7002592
The amount of people taking this tired bait is concerning. It reeks of faggotry in here.

>>7003387
Is this the so called nijicope?

>>7003115
Why is Vsinger "covering Coco's graduation" but Niji's isn't covering Lulu's

>>7003504
Because Lulu didn't have to hide her reason for graduation.

>>7003314
t. Falseflagging nijinigger

Im starting to think the baitposter is just a bot reposting stuff from the past threads

>>7003456
I am not related to this conversation, but I am just curious. Can you describe how faggotry smells, so I can tell if it reeks of it?

>>7003310
1 million is too low. She already has 1 million subscribers to watch her. Predicting at least 3 million since I expect at least 3 generations of families

why did people stop posting the daily top 25 in viewers in these threads?

>>7003565
Coco didn't either retard

>>7003662
Vnuma is rip, everything else is either Holo only, Niji only or Japanese Vtubers only

>>7003662
Holo isn't on top anymore

>>7003387
Numberthreads are the most accessible places on this entire board. High No. >Bigger than> Low No. The barrier of entry is ridiculously too low. Which leads to this place being overun by retarded ass niggers like BiliBili-chama and graph-chama.

>>7003702
By the way, Holo is retarded, just saying.

>>7003115
>hyped up the event for an entire month resulting in lots of views and money
>everyone still allowed to bring up Coco whenever they want even after graduation
>oh they tried to bury the graduation and make everyone forget Coco with Vsinger
What strange logic.

>>7003456
All me

>>7003662
vnuma is dead, there's an anon cobbling together playboard numbers and another posting japanese top numbers which are filled with 3dpd

Sad day for holoshit
Complete niji domination for 24+ hours straight
Now haachama has to make up for that embarassment
Yet, after that one glory hour, holo will go back to complete irrelevance
What a funny time for vnuma to be dead
Perhaps Haato should really graduate
Holoshit desperately needs some kind of buff

>>7003663
>But she said that shit because of NDA
>She never said the real reason, despite stating the real reason was creative differences!
>Etc etc
Just ignore it.

Looking at haachama, I'm guessing ez 80k ccv, people are going to tune in for the chance of graduation drama, despite that title because you never know with this girl.

>>7003644
*New faggots, as In tourist niggas. Also known as wankers who need to lurk more.

>>7003784
Well, holo still has some trump cards to buff itself:
Holo EN 2 gen
Holo JP 6 gen
Holo ID 3d
Holo EN 3d (questionable)

>>7002677
It's a special event, so I think her lore fans might show up, and there should be some box push.
Idk how many tourists she would get.
13k (regular) + 20k (lore fans) + 40k box push + >10% tourist
I'd say at least 80k. If it gets lower than this, then you can remove the box push since this stream is a surprise event with no prior public scheduling.

>>7003120
https://holo.poi.cat/vtuber/miko
https://holo.poi.cat/vtuber/haato
Miko has more regular viewers than haato. This stream won't hit 200k.

whats up with blue kuzuha? hes far below red kuzuha numbers

>>7003977
Not enough apex skill

>>7003702
>Vnuma is rip, everything else is either Holo only, Niji only or Japanese Vtubers only
I just select V-Tuber from playboard, which is fine for now.

>>7004020
lol, 3 mil btw
what a fucking graveyard, jeesus

>>7001569
>Aqua
>Decline
That happens when you insist in spamming your audience with APEX then you rage quit and have a meltdown
> looking at Matsuri too

>>7004020
That doesn't have red kuzuha or that autistic speed runner tho

>>7003739
>>oh they tried to bury the graduation and make everyone forget Coco with Vsinger

They failed. Poorly. They could've just dropped EN2 and JP6 both back to back. Like I've always been asking. Guess what? Nijisanji did the exact same thing I wanted hololive to do Lmao. Cover's losing their edge.

>enter thread
>that one avatarfag is shitting it
>do a 360 and walk away

>>7004102
Well, yea, but also her lack of consistent streaming due to Idol stuff, two collabs on top of her (id+JP collab, Minecraft collab with choco, flare and watame), and playing a game that everyone has seen at least thrice at this point.

>>7003115
>Cover
>give CoCo a massive send off that celebrates her career
>Drop a Vsinger that auditioned months ago

>AnyColor
>Shady quick graduation with no celebration at all
>Talent got stalked and harrassed and AnyColor could do nothing to help them
>quickly debut new generations with no audition period to cover it up

>>7003784
For you, Anon-sama.

and now samefagging.

>>7004008
people said hes much more cute, fun and charismatic than Red Kuzuha. his live2d is better too.
is skill the only thing that matters? it should not, the Original Kuzuha is quite average
theres also a narrative of Red Kuzuha being better in collabs than solo-streams
seems like people have overestimated the Blue Kuzuha

>she pre announced the stream on Twitter
This is going to get numbers, she usually skimps on that or announces too close to the stream start (like, 15 min prior)

Over and under on her numbers? I say 50k min based on other recent streams

>>7002886
Their main is twitch

by blue kuzuha do you mean the kirito one?

>>7004119
Or maybe they weren't trying to bury it at all.

>>7004331
40k, if Matuli wills it

>>7004105
I specifically said it’s “fine for now”. I just post the VTuber category from playboard while some asshat bitches at me every time, complaining that it’s not… “real”.

>>7004331
22k in the waiting room. She wouldn’t even need to stream and her place on today’s list would be guaranteed

Now that i think about it, Nijisanji incline feels like GBF with how they incline everytime summer approaching with more stuff happening. While Hololive reminds me of FGO.

>>7004359
Blue Kuzuha = Axia
People have speculated that Nijisanji found two Apex autists and debuted them as a unit because Chronoir has officially become an idol unit and is contracted under Anycolor so they won't have the slot of "those two guys who play Apex"

>>7004359
Yeah, blue kuzuha is "axia krone" and red kuzuha is "lauren iroas"
Honestly, their names are cringe and not easy on the tongue.

>>7003929
Miko gets more regular viewers now, certainly not back them. Miko has actually inclined quite a bit in the last two months. She is basically a guarenteed 20k now. So good to see.

>>7004359
>kirito
kek, can't unsee it now

>>7003784
If Vnuma was still alive. Cover bootlickers would be sulking over their declining numbers. How pathetic.

>>7004452
That was an weird incline too, because this time is not on the back of memes and clips. I wonder if the “demon lord” arc of her Minecraft stint is responsible for that

I have a feeling holo would have some slump after coco graduate until cover debut someone as confident and charismatic as her. No more introverts and shy girls, they need some new energetic and flashy confident girls.

>>7004506
Probabpy that along with the emergence of MiComet and ShiranuiKen in general. Any ShiranuiKen collab is a guarenteed good time and Miko always gets the biggest viewership from those. She also said she wants to do weekly Elite English collabs with EN so expect a bigger incline if that materializes.

>>7004367
Just like they weren't trying to biry last year's holocaust with 5 gen members

>>7004635
>ShiranuiKen
That was a godsend for Nene, Micomet, even Flare herself, Polka, Botan.
Only one failing to capitalize on it is Noel, but she got her audience in a lock.
FOR FUCK SAKE, she got 13k people that voluntarily showed up to hear her sing.
I get, nips love karaoke but if anything proves she has her audience in a leash that would be it, almost the same number watcher her masterfully executed ASMR

>>7004770
The gen 5 debuts were already delayed due to covid as we found out later from the girls talking about it. Not sure if you're just shitposting or if you're dumb enough to treat rumours from 4chan as fact.

>>7004635
Now that the ender dragon is gone, we can finally have a proper mc collab.
It only took them 10 months...

>>7004847
Then they've debuted HoloEN after fir... graduated Aloe

>>7003479
I don't care about niji, I just want you to learn english.

>>7004825
>Noel karaoke
Seems to be more of a case study in how people will actively tune in to listen to terrible singing when the singer is having a lot of fun with it. I'm pretty sure her karaoke viewership has only improved with time.

>>7004575
You may have gotten the wrong thread. The feels thread and the gypsy fortune telling is three threads below, this is the numbers thread.
Back your assertion with numbers or GTFO

>>7004899
>terrible singing when the singer is having a lot of fun with it
That is pretty much the literal translation of “karaoke”. Have you ever seen salaryman doing it?

>>7004894
There is an anon saying nijicope? nijicope? at random unrelated stuff lately, ignore it

>>7004825
Noel's karaoke streams are great, though. There's absolutely nothing weird about them drawing attention.

>>7004825
Noel doing good numbers for karaoke is the same reason Amelia does good numbers for karaoke. They are both so bad it becomes a comedy show. That is why people tune in.

>>7004972
I think you should visit a doctor before it's too late.

>>7004825
You can tell that the audience enjoys the stream when a regular content gets better numbers without any special element.

>>7002669
Was Coco not the most popular Vtuber in January of 2021 according to Playboard? Newfagchama, Coco always had her bursts of inclines. That's Coco in general. If you were here during the Asacoco period, you would know this. Not to mention she's the fastest JP member to hit a million subs. Those are the facts. Now continue with your seething session.

>>7004825
>Nene
huh? she isnt part of it. she is sort of in Akukin but most of her Micra time is spend building her castle,messa messa road or doing other goofy projects

>>7004825
Miko always did good numbers but Suisei has inclined a ton since getting more involved with Miko. Not even talkijg about her singing streams which always did well bit she does 10k+ for her regular gaming streams now. ShiranuiKen was a massive buff to everybody. Certainly helps that when they get together its always a fucking blast to watch.

Wasnt this guy supposed to be a chronoir killer? LOL

>>7005072
>she's the fastest JP member to hit a million subs
Wait wat? Wasn't it Korone? And then like other 10 jp members before Coco hit 1 mil?

>>7005095
She’s tagging along with Botan, which tags along with Shuranui (and Usaken too)

>>7004316
I've watched both, blue is cute, red is funny. I don't know shit about Apex so can't say anything about how good they are

>>7005137
Chronoir killer LMAO.
I believe he and the red boy were supposed to become second Chronoir, not to kill it.

>>7005127
It's weird to see UsadaKen is declining while ShiranuiKen is inclining

>>7005145
They hit 1 million first but if you go from debut to 1 million Coco got there the fastest.

>>7005127
>Suisei has inclined a ton since getting more involved with Miko
People here had that talk, what inclined Suisei was
>Ghost
>singing

>>7005033
Technical proficiency is not the only quality a singing stream can have anon. I'll take a Noel or Coco singing stream over Suzy any day, because those are actually fun. Suisei is just like, alright she's pretty good, for a vtuber.

>>7005214
Ah, ok. Thanks for explanation.

>>7005137
You can't kill chronoir if you collab with female too often.

>>7005137
>chronoir killer
anon they're literally from the same company... if anything they want thrones to be the gamer duo while chronoir goes more into idol activity

>>7002212
>Haato is coming with 100k
Well she’s at 34k at 3 mins before it starts.

>>7005290
See? I said she'll get 800k! Who is the prophet now? hahahahaha!

>>7005266
Anon, Kanaeboshi and Kuzuhima (well they're siblings) is a thing

>>7005209
Chronoir just signed a five year contract with anycolor to operate as an actual idol unit, so they'll have less 12 hour streams which the newbie apex goblins will compensate for.

>>7005328
Same anon here, I mistyped, I clearly meant 80k

>>7005192
...not really. when these two play together they also don't do anything Shiranui related.

>>7005338
When what? A substitution for Chronoir?

Is Haato really beating Matsuri before the stream even starts?

Nijinigger buck status: broken.

>>7005396
My bad then, I assume she was on board with the rest of gen5 on shiranui stuff.
I’ll assume nene is your oshi and you know more intimately than me

>>7005336
Kanaeyou has been forgotten...

>>7005377
I didn't. I really mean 800k (eight hundred thousand)

>51k
matuli...

>55k waiting
Festival...

>>7005433
>buck breaking, in my numbers thread?!
It’s more likely than you’d think

>>7005338
I really wonder what this will do for them numbers wise. Does the length of a stream matter? And will their male viewers drop them if theu do ifo6dstuf

fuck maybe the 100k anon was right?

>60k
Jesus

>>7005433
Still waiting when she hits 200k like you holobronies said

>>7005206
red is insanely good, on par with shibuya hal and other top tier apex streamers (not pros though)
blue is not a noob either, probably third best in nijisanji after bora, but in the grand scheme of apex scene, nothing overly impressive.

> 60k
ah...
Just like how JOP doesn't understand western market. EOP doesn't understand eastern market.

58k and rising

>>7005532
It's on a separate channel for a reason

>>7005549
That's what you said tho.

>>7005406
Haachama is a hell of a lot more popular than Matsuri.

>>7005450
no worries and yes she is

>>7001185
Not our problem you hate numbers, you dumb nigger.

>>7005537
With youtube the way it is, I doubt it, but I'll be happy to dine on my words if I'm wrong

>>7005549
Same anon here, sorry, I meant 20k

>>7005549
LOL. If you can't read sarcasm then you must think everything said here is true

>>7005549

I wonder how big the dropoff will be if she confirms no graduation. Clearly people are more worried about that than actually glad to see her back after fucking off for whatever reason.

Isn’t Haachama the next target after Coco, for Cover to get rid of?

>>7005664
No it's FBK

>70k
70k
>70k
70k
>70k
70k

>>7005549
Called it fucking falseflagging nijinigger

>>7003163
Mark my words. Soon to be proven right

>>7005661
The title literally says "I'm back."

Predictions?

quick archivechads, what's haachama's highest live viewers?

jesas

>>7005661
I already predicted she will be back she wilk be back around this time because of how Uni scheds in Tokyo. I will also predict that she will go on a break again after 1 month

>that “stream start” drop
There are anons in this very that deny YouTube counts live viewers with a debuff from even waiting room

>>7005661
>nijinigger is retarded

>>7001167
Today's numbers

>>7005810
>quick archivechads, what's haachama's highest live viewers?
Here are the top 20 stream by Haachama so far

>2020-10-26 :: 56018/89157 :: [NEW COSTUME] ついに新衣装お披露目・・・!?【ホロライブ/赤井はあと】
>2021-03-30 :: 58716/73670 :: #COEXIST
>2021-02-10 :: 51769/68109 :: #BYEBYEHAACHAMA
>2020-10-19 :: 41326/53455 :: た だ い ま【ホロライブ/赤井はあと】
>2020-07-30 :: 24683/45382 :: 【#新はあちゃま】明らかに何かがおかしい・・・!?【ホロライブ/赤井はあと】
>2020-10-20 :: 36838/43883 :: 新・ピザつくり!with #はあココ【ホロライブ/赤井はあと/桐生ココ】
>2020-10-27 :: 36707/42485 :: 【#AMECHAMA COLLAB】51 Clubhouse Games with Amelia!! #HololiveEN
>2020-10-20 :: 35295/40241 :: 【#はあココ】マイクラ!ホロ鯖観光・・・!?【ホロライブ/赤井はあと/桐生ココ】
>2021-01-03 :: 31652/39571 :: 【#はあちゃま3D】はあちゃま、動きます。
>2020-10-20 :: 21152/38169 :: A S M R ※No archive

Today will easily top all of those

>>7005770
Gura will reach 4M first

look at those dramafags dropping out after discovering it is not graduation lmao

>>7005770
Not this year

>>7006199
Looks like I overestimated hololive when I said that haato will have more views than mr. jun. Oh well, looks like there's nothing they can do here. At least they can boast that they topped nijisanji today.

The Resurgence of Hachaama feels like the coming of EN 2. I can smell it. The announcement is night.

>>7006220
WTF is Youtube even doing?
>drop all waiting room from the count
>slowly accept some of them back
When people realized Haachama is not announcing graduation many bolted. Is this what having "tourists" feels like?

>>7006375
>implying haato leaving/returning is something outside of norm

>>7006375
>The Resurgence of Hachaama feels like the coming of EN 2.
Before that, the glorious return of Haachama into the Micra EN server.

>>7006363
If she had announced graduation, it would have 100%.
Drama = views after all, but thank god it wasn't. Also hard confirmation from Haachama that it was Uni taking her time.
Thank Coco and Kanata for talking to her though, she very well could have decided to quit Hololive but was convinced after talking with them.

>>7006354
It's still at 69k. That's like a 5k drop

>>7006401
Whoa! What is that cool nifty tool on a screenshot?

>>7006460
So she just decided not to disclose the reason of her break for shits and giggles? What an asshole.

>>7006469
so 5k tourists and 69k loyal fans? Damn, lord haachama is strong

>>7006500
It's holostats
https://holo.poi.cat/youtube-channel
Probably one of the most useful tools for checking CCV available to everyone.

>>7006448
Nah man, this time my heart was this small >.<. I now Haachama from the goat simulator days, from the "learning chinese" days and I'm waiting for her to announce her graduation since December last year.

>she's doing the tarantula cooking contest now
Typical Haachama
>leave for God knows how much time
>returns without making a fuzz
>business as usual

>>7006500
>What is that cool nifty tool on a screenshot?
Number reps anon

>>7006583
Great, now, Hachaama is back, hololive will mog nijinigger again

>>7006363
All the Hololive doomers are new and don't understand how Nijisanji works. Their massive superchats for big events also applies to their viewers. Nijisanji revolves around big events where they put up huge numbers. Right now is the baseball arc, then they will recline back to Hololive mogging them everyday, then the next big event will happen and Niji will incline massively again.

Nijisanji is very mainstream in Japan bit normies aren't going to tune into daily streaming which is why Hololive usually mogs for regular daily streams since they have a very otaku fanbase who watches them everyday. The normies that watch Niji though show the fuck up for major events like 3D and Baseball.

>>7004020
Gura below Ina ??

>>7006658
The thing is that you can't compare it with last year's performance since they were axed hard by meiroshit drama. If there won't be any drama this year they'll keep inclining.

>>7006544
It's Haachama, ask oldfags and they'll agree with the statement that "That's just the way she is". DESU she probably was genuinely gonna announce graduation at one point, but...
>Me, Coco and Kanata had an offline meeting and we talked about alot of things and that made me motivated to stream again (From LiveTL in stream)
She's definitely going to go on Hiatus once Uni starts up again though. She probably can't balance Uni + Streaming to a level she finds acceptable.

>>7006199
7 nijis 1 holo
wwwwww
yup, holoshit is fucking done
either graduate or debut someone

>>7006740
Did Meiro drama actually affect Nijisanji's growth that much?

>>7006704
>Gura below Ina
Might be a first, don’t know.

>Speaking of Holostats, numbers and nijisanji
If you anons point me to the general direction of a list of all Nijisanji streamers categorized by their respective "waves" I'll use my recently geared jiggamagic which can slurp Playboard data to make the historical analysis for both Holos and Nijis using that dataset.

It is not as good as Holostats but it will be useful to compare Playboard Niji numbers with Playboard Holo numbers (live viewers, superchat, subs and VOD)

For that to be possible all I need is a single link with
>all niji streamers
>with their respective "waves" and debut dates

>>7006799
Obviously (at least until the drama was debunked)

>>7006799
Well, this is the numbers thread. You should be asking for numbers.

>>7006740
They won't. That isn't how Nijisanji's fanbase views them and its never been the case. Aside from outliers like Kuzuha, Hololive will always win on regular daily streams since their fanbase is more NEET and otaku. Nijisanji's fanbase is very mainstream and normies aren't going to watch them everyday.

>>7005532
isn't there a lot of kanae-onlys and kuzuha-onlys? i don't think an increase in collabs would satisfy those people.

>>7006704
Gura got 20K peak later on, i guess that was taken before the stream ended. Still impressive for Ina, she and Kiara are the only ones in EN that get buffed by minecraft.

>>7006847
I expected someone will answer my question with numbers

>>7006798
If we go by your logic then 100 of Niji will be gone.

>>7006199
Normally I would be seething that Niji is dominating the rankings. "Kuzuha and his boyfriend" nonsense. But thanks to a recent grad. My stake in this race has deteriorated. Feels good man.

>>7006871
It might not do much for their streaming numbers but it'll be a lot more lucrative for both Chronoir and Nijisanji when it comes to stuff like merchandising and music.

>>7006800
>>7006704
not in vod views, despite ina's 5hrs vs gura's 4hr.

>>7006820
you mean like the Wikia? Or are you looking for something more specific?
https://virtualyoutuber.fandom.com/wiki/Nijisanji

>>7006820
Don't think there'd be a nijifag dedicated to do that

>>7006767
That's fine, once EN 2 and JP 6 is released, they can take some time off or stream less.

>>7006704
Gura got 20k. I guess playboard misses peaks just like VNUMA did.

>>7006800
Gura reached 20K but Playboard did not record it. Go check Holostats

Glad that Holostats is one of the most accurate website.

>>7006861
What about Ibrahim? Are you assuming people will stop watching him after he finishes his Minecraft project?

>>7006820
There's this

>>7006923
i guess girls are big merch buyers so this is a viable option especially if what anon said about 5 years is true.
but not gonna lie i will be a little bit bitter when they lose stream viewers in favor of this new duo that i find, no offense, a little flavorless in comparison. well, maybe i will get used to it in time. things must change after all.

>>7007050
compare his minecraft streams with pokemon unite ones. And that's a buff game.

>>7007050
Most likely I guess. If he lines up another project, he might retain that. His case is the same one as Kanata taking days for an uparupa.

On the other news, Flare and Watame lost 1k viewers after Haachama started streaming. Not much of a dip.

>>7006799
No. They were growing but slower than hololive. Hololive had an explosive growth rate during sept-nov.

>>7007050
Maybe, I don't know. If his incline stays consistent then good for him, there are always going to be outliers. However, if you expect the Njji Panda to pull 40k on a regular basis you are insane. Niji's normie fanbase is watching them right now due to baseball.

>>7007131
oh I was actually expecting way more of a drop

>>7006861
>NEET and otaku
Niji livers often stream beyond 1 am JST with tens of thousands viewers still watching while Holomen often stop after 11 pm JST and you call them normie? what kind of normie prioritized watching vtubers to early morning?

>>7007199
Fujos

>>7007199
Their real count is around <5k to keep the chat going and healthy. The rest are viewbots that brought the numbers to 15k+.

>>7006957
>Or are you looking for something more specific?
That’s almost it but it would be so cool if I could copy the channel addresses for each of them without having to manually click each link (or, what I would actually do, write a script to click each link and read the channel link).

>>7007071
Thanks but what I actually need is the necessary info to make this files

>Streamer name;wave name;channel id
From that I can use my holo scripts to build the same info for Niji, but out of Playboard.

Without that I can do it all the same but with more manual work from my part, which would change it from “yeah, this weekend” to “whenever the laziness subside”

>>7006861
Hololive was more affected by the Olympics than Nijisanji, I'd strongly suggest it's not as clear cut as that. Hololive most likely has the salaryman normie audience while Nijisanji has the high school student normie audience.

>>7006957
+ 2019 waves

>>7007178
Yep, the main reason is massive difference in western audience.

>>7007199
Holo's stream early into the morning all the time

>>7007131
>>7007186
>oh I was actually expecting way more of a drop
Whoever tuned in her streams knowing that Haachama would stream most likely than not wouldn’t care about Haachama at all

>>7007050
he was getting 24k before
once he is done is back to forgotten land
kinda like Homos and minecraft gacha for the blue oopa

>>7007249
i know you're trolling but i don't see what women gain from watching a grown man play a children's version of league of legends until the morning

>>7007318
+ 2020 waves

>>7007318
Yea, should not forget about Kataribe. The real key member for statistics.

If they can't win the west or EN 1, they'll win the EUfags

>>7005127
If anything, the one most debuffed is Flare herself.
Her avg numbers are up, but for what this thread cares about, she used to peak at 13-17k for solo Minecraft streams, right before Watame started hers, but now she splits it with the rest of the kensetsu.

>>7007408
Is she still alive...

>>7007444
Can't wait for Obsydia's first collab! It will be great!

>>7007309
hololive hasnt changed their usual live viewers counts this past week of olympics start. Its just niji having the debut buffs (already seem down to 20k) and normie baseball tourists (will last until the tournament ends)

>>7007496
Eh, that's fine, she's not a minecraft autist. She divides her time with games & gfe.

>>7007513
According to other Niji members - yes.

>>7007105
I can see apex autists fawning over Lauren whenever he flexes his skill, but I doubt Axia will affect Chronoir much. He's cute but hasn't shown much charisma as of now.
Also the 2 still haven't collabed yet.

>>7007384
It's the same reason why grown ass men watch the girls until the break of dawn

>>7007308
This list by subscribers also needs you to click 2 links but maybe you can use the api it's pulling
https://virtual-youtuber.userlocal.jp/office/nijisanji_all

There's an overall list too
https://virtual-youtuber.userlocal.jp/document/ranking

>>7007536
The Olympics only started yesterday and you can already see most of the holos are a few thousand off their usual numbers.

>>7007309
They really weren't. Heavy hitters like Pekora and Miko are still putting up their standard viewers they just look smaller because of Nijis baseball boost.

WHO WOULD WIN?
>the combined forces of Gen1 on a special 3D well produced well rehearsed stream, buffed by the drama caused by one of the members pulling a “no show”
>said member on pretty much a guerilla stream with her beloved haaton eating spiders on her behalf
THE ANSWER WILL SURPRISE YOU!

OH NO NO NO NO NIJIKEKS

>>7007536
Debut buff (EN+2021JP wave) + BAseball seasonn.
They'll have an amazing month, then it will level out, probably higher than in June.
But then again, August is event month for Hololive too.

>>7007632
at least the girls act cute or something. women or "fujos" gain far more from just going to sleep and watching clips of the "cute" (very liberal use of the word) moments when they wake up.

>>7007636
Thanks, I’ll look into it

>>7007444
en market is already dying
they should hurry up debuting males. it will fail most likely, but males are their only chance to gain some relevance.

>>7007652
Pekora had 26k for the first stream of FF7 today and was dropping as low as 10k for Subnautica last night.

>>7007658
I'm glad she didn't go to Matsuri's birthday yesterday and went to Rushia's. Matsuri needs to learn her place that needs to grind those numbers and stop playing apex.

>>7007658
>buffed by the drama caused by one of the members pulling a “no show”
I honestly think that was more of a debuff than anything. It left a really bad impression on hako oshis, which are a large portion of the audience for most birthday streams.

>>7007658
>Matsuri after sabotaging herself
or
>The long awaited return of an actually popular Vtuber watched worldwide (no goodbye thankfully!)
She's pulled a lot of tasunokos too, Taishi's translating.

>>7007698
Its a good thing then that most nijimales don't look like gwelu but femboys or hosts

is it over for kanon?

>>7007737
Pic related, you surely mean her “average”

By the way, I don't intend to offend everyone, but is Haato retarded? I mean, she inserts "Haachama-chama" between every 3 words. Sometimes even repeating it multiple times in a row. Is that the thing her fans are into?
I never seen any vtuber do such thing. I mean, Pekora does her famous "Peko" at the end of some sentences, and some other vtubers also finish their sentences with their unique phrases, but Haato sounds just plainly retarded.

>>7007737
It's the game. She was playing MC with peak 37k an hour before subnautica

>>7007780
Looks like the rumours destroyed most of her buff, but she's still better off than where she started.

>>7007768
>Taishi's translating.
He would be better sticking to Suisei, Haato has two regular simultaneous TLs (that don’t ever yield to each other, Shrek and Yami) and one on the backup.

>>7007780
Eh, give it a few more weeks. If she declines back to her pre-viral state then yes, it's over. If she instead ended up getting a bump up and maintains it longterm? Worth.

>>7007777
gwelu is kino leave him out of this fool

>>7007679
Axia already down to 13k huh? The debut buff didn't last long did it?

>>7007780
Apex growth is the biggest tourist trap out there.
If you don't perform at a high level every day, they'll leave. She was decent at the game but got most of her fans for being funny, not what the Apex crowd wants.

>>7007641
>can already see most of the holos are a few thousand off their usual numbers.
no i dont
mori 8k - normal
flare 11k mc - normal, it is split views
watame 11k mc - normal, it is split views
korone 13k - very normal
aqua 17k - very normal
kanata 14k - slight buff
botan 10k - slight drop, but shit game for the 10th time
mel 3k - buff
pekora 31k - normal, not even prime time
subaru - 19k dq - normal or slight buff
ame 14k buff
gura 20k normal
western holofags seem to be mostly weebs, not fullblown normalfags. Dont dont enjoy sports that much, especially the majority of shitty ones in the olympics.

>>7004102
how ironic that all the idol bullshit is hololives achilles heel. Yagoos dream was really a nightmsare after all

>>7007846
She has had her buff since her shizo arc.

>>7007308
>>7007318
From top left:
Warabeda Meiji/MireRoa/HaruMiya/-/Sanbaka/Benizuwaigani/Yukishiro Mahiro/LvEx/Chichiyama/SMC/Blues/Posanke/Tulipgumi/Orihimeboshi/Aka no Soshiki/Night Kingdom/Mananatsu

>>7007900
It was not the idolshit, neither audience would care of their oshi was burned out from excessive idol practice.
But burning themselves on fucking APEX?

>>7007860
YEah, there's like 5 people translating right now, it's hilarious.

>>7007737
Still higher than…

>>7007846
Rumors?

>>7007868
That doesn't change the fact that most characters are femboys straight out of those dating apps

>>7007836
Do you live under a rock? There's this thing called acting and kayfabe. She's literally one of the smartest holo going as far to study overseas and wanting to get into a good college in JP.

>>7007970
That’s on regular streams too. Haaton are just too stubborn

>>7007846
Rumors? What did I miss? She might settle in like Uto did.

>>7007780
the fotm buff is gone, still not too bad for an indie

>>7007308
>>7007393
From top left:
Meifu/VΔLZ/Sorahoshi Kirame/Selejo

>>7007836
Easily the most intelligent (as in raw brain power to read the room and decode the unexpected) of all Holos maybe tied with Pekora.

That’s her greatest handicap, she’s addicted on procrastinating to see if she can figure out a way out the tightest binds.

>>7008018
rumors that she isnt a real indie, backed by a shady black company. Like uto

>>7008017
Why are you showing data 10months ago

Seems like on daily numbers chart, Haachama will have to compete with Kuzuha Koshien.

>>7008176
That's new. When did this rumor come to light? To be fair, it was pretty weird for a literal who indie to be featured in an Apex tournament

Would be weird if Haachama only took that break to improve her English for Holo EN Gen 2. But it’s probably more likely that Cover wants to get rid of her.

EN2... It's nigh...

>>7008290
Obviously since it's already the next day in JP

>>7008310
she litteraly said why she took the break.

>>7007900
>>7007960
Do you fuckers even WATCH Aqua? Do you know what her CCV over the past few months even look like when playing assorted games?

https://holo.poi.cat/vtuber/aqua

SCROLL THE FUCK DOWN AND SEE.
Many non-apex, non-minecraft streams are in the 17k range. And that's before the viewer-culling shit that happened in December. MC is a big buff for Aqua, but it looks like she's basically done with Minecraft after the Aqukin HQ was completed in the relay (which is a shame. AQUA PLEASE, COME BACK TO MINECRAFT). Her Apex streams hit 20k+ pretty often, but yea she was dumb and burned herself out like the little autist she is.

>>7008018
>>7008066
https://acoco0084.com/entertainment/kanon-rimuru/

>>7008332
huh what did i miss?

>>7008359
>I believe everything I hear
Good.

>>7008332
How many predicted dates for announcement have we passed by now? (starting from holoalt teaser)

>>7008332
Haato did an anounce? Or is that you just speculating?

Haato couldn't even hold half of her peak lol. Graduate already stupid bitch.

>>7008176
You mean like pretty much every JP vtuber? because it's expensive as fuck to get a full model over there?

>>7008395
yup, newfags here who I doubt watch a single chuuba just assume she was on par with pekora because of their mc rivalry. When in reality only marine (in live) and gura (in vod) could and still can compete with her.

Prediction

>>7008332
>EN2... It's nigh...
Yep. Very, very soon.

>>7008536
Actually she used to be Hololive's ace for most of 2019 but then Pekora blew up in 2020 while she got a lot of drama instead

>>7008399
>https://acoco0084.com/entertainment/kanon-rimuru/
im not opening that link lol, qrd

>>7008536
Aqua literally has too bombs to drop if she wants to numberfag. Even more so now that EN's server is going to open.

>>7008595
I remember when she is known as NijiKiller

>>7008595
ah sorry you're correct, I meant for 2020's hololive boom period

>>7008595
She IS more of an ace than she ever was these days anon. She is now has more concerts, events, and sponsorship than even Sora

>>7008546
Her and Kanata trying to understand memes while speaking offscrean to a mysterious voice.

>>7008546
500k for sure

>>7008615
Aqua traded her Numberfag hat for Sponsorships and Idol Reps, which are far more inline with her dreams.
She's stated that she had the option of transferring over to Hololive Gamers when they were created, but instead chose to stay as just Gen2 because her ultimate focus was her Idol dreams and not just streaming and gaming.

>>7008646
Yep, she missed out on that a lot, for being on hiatus during the big boost of May, then EoPs being weary of her because she was super big in China.
Also didn't help that her humor was for kids when a lot of the new audience was 20somthings.

>>7001981

her content actually has changed drastically compared to 2019 and early 2020 content, her forte was doing endurance games of super rare retro games or plain kusoges no one knew, now she sticks to normal stuff like megaman, mario and FF because of the licensing issue that hit hololive mid-2020, tons of her greatest videos removed are removed now.

>>7008752
>not just streaming and gaming
kinda weird considering how that used to be her focus until recently

>>7008821
Just means that she likes gaming but she likes performing on stage even more and will prioritize that if she can. She barely had any opportunities before this to be an idol, that's all.

>>7008821
Yes, until she played Apex for so long she got physically and mentally ill and had to take a long break.

On the other hand JP companies like consistency over time, they just looked at her numbers since 2019 and wanted her for their sponsorship.

>>7007836
she's probably the best vtuber at marketing. haachamachama and stuff like her cooking bgm just drill haachama into your brain. you will remember it. you will think about it in the future.

>>7007836
Girls are cuter if they are a little retarded, its literally part of her persona.

>>7008546
40-50k, maybe higher depending on if she could get any guests.

>>7008546
100k since people have been anticipating this a lot. The reddit crowd will be there

>>7008546
At least 70k. More dependng on if she gets a guest or not. Haachama is an EOP magnet and it's a torch-pass from Coco so that's even more of a buff.

>>7008546
Depends on the guest, but 30k at minimum.

>>7008546
100k+ hololive is basically reddit

>>7007843
It was still funny to see Ina getting a few hundred more viewers than Pekora in the middle of JP primetime at some points.

>>7008422
>Haato couldn't even hold half of her peak lol
She went from 80k to 20k.

>>7009369
i dont remember any shitpost review breaking 100k though, eg pekora 70k something, amelia 80k

well thats just sad

go to sleep baitposter

>>7010148
wedding anniversary buff

>>7010148
She's reading superchat, right? Of course it's gonna be low.

by the way /vt/'s favorite faggots mentioned their analytics briefly earlier tonight
kuzuha channel now has a viewership that is 70% male
and kanae channel sits at 60% males watching him

>>7010148
>big collab vs superchat reading
I agree, it's pretty sad.

>>7008546
I think this is the best possible move.
Kanata is not fluent in English, and too busy to do her reps.
Her persona is a cute girl who works hard, so I think her review would be bland.
Kiara can match Coco's energy, but her voice filters a lot of people. She's both ESL and JSL, so her translations are inaccurate and exaggerated at times.
People were shied away from recommending Haato since she announced her break suddenly.
Haato can do her English reps, and she can bring something different to the table with her lore.

>>7010078
Mori review broke 100k iirc

>>7010439
75k, anon.

https://holo.poi.cat/vtuber/coco

>>7010351
>kuzuha channel now has a viewership that is 70% male
Interesting, pretty sure it was at 80% several months ago.

>>7010247
>>7010392
She was already dropping massively before that. Cope.

>>7010509
Yeah, I just checked myself too. Color me surprised; I thought it did considering it was the first EN collab for Coco

>>7010559
>can't even beat superchat reading
Chronoir graduation when?

>>7010559
I know your buck is hurting nijinigger, but no amount of (You)s you bait will fix it. Just take your meds.

>>7010619
At least they can keep the number for hours instead of dropping 3/4 of viewers 1.5 hours later.

>spamming/flooding

>>7010778
Ah this must be the legendary nijicope I've heard so much about

Who would win:
>Haato with return buff + drama buff
Or:
>a vampire boi playing amogus

yup haato might as well just graduate

>>7010986
Here's your (you). Marine bathtime with Noel already beat him. So gtfo.

The quality of this thread is absolute dogshit from the OP down to the shitposters who can barely scrape (You)s. Just what happened in the past couple of days that the quality went down this bad?

>>7011188
VNUMA died

>>7010618
Do your reps newfaggingnigger. Reddit Shitpost review may be the biggest ongoing show in Vtubing. But it'll never hit the same highs as new costume streams. Keep your expectations in check. 49k live viewers is the minimum.

>>7011188
VNUMA died, then it's baseball season so the drama-tourists saw it as the perfect time to shitpost. Also, the new Niji wave debuted and had better than expected numbers, so shitposters had even MORE fuel to use. And dumbfucks decided to reply and feed more yous....you get the picture.
YOU IDIOTS, IS IT SO HARD, TO REFRAIN FROM BITING ON THE OBVIOUS BAIT?

>>7011410
The same people posting the baits are the same people replying