/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>6999334
Why does Gura's fanbase hate collabs?

>>6999458

Not collabs, just kiara

>>6999458
KJARO

>>6999458
Because they distract from Gura? They don't care about Hololive they're just there for Gura.

>>6999334
>minecraft is the least viewed
Unironically what went fucking wrong? Do even her child viewers not care about her collabs, even if it's Minecraft, the king of buffs? Are there that many people that only want to tune into Gura, and only gura, despite collabs being a buff for anyone else.

>>6999514
>he thought the "chumbuds don't care about hololive" meme wasn't actually the truth

Remember when Gura used to get 1 mil views for her VODs? Kek, Memeshark on the decline. Guess the Gura Killer is actually doing good work.

>>6999514
chumbuds never cared about hololive, I've been saying this for months.

>>6999334
This >>6999501 is the real reason.
Gura's normalfag subscribers, kid fanbase and any other semi-deadsubs don't care about Hololive. They subscribe to Gura, the singing cartoon shark girl, not Hololive. They probably dont even know it exists. These people then see her collabing and get turned off by the jnclusion of other people they have no interest in at all.

>>6999334
kiara debuff

>>6999334
Their collabs are cringe

>>6999458
Much fewer instances of Gura noises, often replaced by screeching birb.

>>6999458
I thought people hate collabs because Cumshards always bring up dramas

Gura viewers don't care about Hololive or other talents. Notice how even on here Chumbuds only show up when she's streaming? Refusing to really contribute elsewhere. Their split will be active just so they can cunnypost, but /hlgg/ will be free of them and then suddenly they all appear and start spamming once Gura is live. I've seen my anons mention that they don't watch Gura's collabs because the other girls are distracting. She might as well be a Twitch streamer.

>>6999334
it's just a matter of time.

I've looked at her recent vods
>5man Ender Dragon Minecraft: 307k views
>Mori collab Minecraft: 485k views
>Kiara collab Minecraft: 580k views
>HoloID + Roboco collab DBD: 402k views
>Trinity collab SM3D: 410k views
>Mori collab WWHT: 464k views
>5man Pummel Party: 869k views
>Ina collab MHR: 372k views
>5man DST: 478k views
>Mori collab Minecraft: 475k views

There's obviously far more solo streams so I'm not gonna count them all to get an average or something, but just look at the peak streams
>Assetto Corsa: 741k views
>DBD streams: Regularly over 500k (compare to her collab DBD)
>Subnautica: 685k views
>RE7: 600-1.2m views
>Minecraft solo: 788k and 766k views (compare to Minecraft collabs)
>Henry Stickmin: 1.4m views
>Friday Night Funkin: 796k views
>MHR: 1m, 511k, 473k (compare to Ina collab)

Obviously she can get far more than any collabs with the right game choice, but even if she's playing the same game as in a collab she still gets more views solo than in collabs. Collabs are a debuff for her.

>>6999334
It’s not the collab, I just can’t stand the chicken voice

>>6999767
>>6999933
>>6999490
Nigger you know there are people here who can read unique IPs right?

>>7000065

>>7000130
>>7000065
lmao

>>7000065
Look, I don’t hate the chicken nor I am her anti. I really just cannot stand her voice.

Yes, we know cumsharts don't care about Hololive

>>7000130
Next thing he's gonna tell you that you painted over the two (You)s

Chumchildren are just as lazy as their oshi.

>>7000130
I may have jumped the gun but the IPs count definitely didn't change when you posted

>>6999334

>>7000065
Oh no the "Samefag Egg Discord Raider Boogeyman"

Kys KFP you're as insecure as your oshi

>>7000294
Wowwww but I thought chumbuds were proud of their oh so amazing vodviews, not live viewers.

>>6999334
The only collabs Gura fans want are with her chat.

>>7000387
Still more vod views than your oshi

>>7000210
>>6999539
>>6999501
Personally I never quite understood why this was supposed to be this grand condemnation of their character and opinions.
My oshi loves collabs but I never understood why "Gura fans don't care about Hololive/collabs" was supposed to be a bad thing.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
>second most watched during collab
>half vod views
HMMMMMMMMMMM
People here need to lurk in number thread

>>7000526
Because they shit up the board despite the fact that they don't care

>>7000569
>Yes, I do enjoy shit posting, problem?

>>7000569
Anon, I thought that people here should already realised that most Chumbuds stick to /ggg/ and rather not involve with falsefalggers dramas

>>7000526
>never understood why "Gura fans don't care about Hololive/collabs" was supposed to be a bad thing.
The absolute fucking state of chumbuds

>>7000648
Nah, most of them are retarded. See this dude right below you >>7000700

>>7000700
EXPLAIN
>>7000531

Sweet mother of meds.

>>7000440
Who cares about Vod views. These girls are streamers, live viewership is the only relevant statistic.

>>7000867
Unironically true.
VODs can be easily inflated just through normalfags watching for 30 seconds.
Live viewers are a much harder number to get big.

>>6999334
the only debuff is playing minecraft for the story

>>7000867
spoken like a true retard

>>7000901
>he forgot VOD had an advertisement, a good stable revenue for the talent

oh yeah, supacha amount so high amazing

>>7000901
judging from youtube being absolutely worthless when they did polls, showing results from almost double the amount of viewers, those cannot be trusted either

>>6999909
The usaken summer festival wasn't a debuff. It depends on who she plays with. The Nacho collab stands at 648k. Usaken is at 1.2M

>>7000867
>>7000901
Tell your oshi to delete her VOD after streaming then I'll kneel.

>>6999334
She should just stop trying to collab. They only drag her down. She should focus on building her own fanbase.

>>7001162
She already got an extremely dedicated fanbase. That’s why I believe it’s about time she collabs with people outside of Hololive more

>>6999334
>inside what
heh

>>7000867
cries in voiceore

>>7000805
That's Ina primetime. All her fans are pretty hype for that so they catch it live. After all, she did a preparation stream before that. You can see >>7000531 her VOD doesn't grow much after 24hrs.

Gura...
your Kiara debuff...

>>7001184
>extremely dedicated fanbase
How much does she get in SCs again?

>>7000867
Delete vods then faggot

>>7001184
>collabs are verifiably a debuff for her even with her genmates
>she should collab with a bunch of literally whos instead
Why? She clearly doesn't want to collab very much even within Hololive so why the fuck would she go even more out of her comfort zone to collab with someone from another company? Go watch Nachomama if you're fiending for an external collab cause that's about all you're gonna get.

>>7001268
Sounds like a cope, looks to me tacos/deadbeats/teammates/kfp don't care about collabs...

>>6999334
numbers dont lie

>>7001375
SC isn't the only metric for that.

>>7001375
How much of that money goes to YT and then to applestore/playstore?
Fucking chickens and their bird brains.

>>7001485
>>7001510
that little, huh...
I guess you can't expect much when your fanbase is primarily children.

>>6999458
Kiara once theorized that a lot of Gura's fans are people who wouldn't have got into Vtubing otherwise. So seeing non-Gura Vtubers might scare them off.

>>7001533
You don't need to throw money at Gura like a whore to get your message read.

>>6999334
Gura changed alot lately thanks to Mori, decided to find another oshi.
>Cuter high pitch voice
>high energy and actually funny
>doesn't swear and isn't a depressive mess
Yeah, i'm not sticking around chumkeks lole. Never thought i'd find a indie vtuber that's cuter then anyone in Hololive. She does sound like Haachama sometimes unfortunately.

>>7001162
She only collabs when her genmates pressure her into it because she's kind of a push-over. That's why she ghosts them often since it's the only way to escape debuff collabs without saying No.

>>7001375
Better question should be, how much does she gets in membership.

>>7001533
no, I refuse to give jewtube and cover my hard-earned dollar just so they can waste it on useless investment
I support her from buying merch, clicking ads and membership fee

>>7001686
>implying that other fanbases don't support their oshis the same way

>>7001375
since you asked nicely

>>7001768
well, he is talking about SC

>>7000648
Speak for yourself retard. I'd rather stick to /hlgg/ during Gura hours

>>6999458
serious answer: I feel like others don't treat Gura well enough, she gets shy and pushed out of the picture easily. I don't like shark getting bullied or talked over.

>>6999334
because that collab includes kiara, the only EN i can never fucking tolerate for her obnoxiousness
there's your answer. it forces me to use fucking clippers to see if there was anything good, and even then i still grit my teeth whenever that woman speaks in her retarded ass voice

>>7000065
if you have any shred of honor you'll perform sudoku live to atone.

>>7001881
serious question: did you even watch the stream?

>>7001814
>most Chumbuds
Not all, learn to read anonchama.

I usually only watch Gura, Ina and Ame and the trinity collabs. Mori and Kiara are just.. Not for me.

Gura's 10 least viewed vods (only counting older than a week)
>Solo Super Metroid: 223k after 3 months
>Collab SSSS.Dynazenon watch-along w/ Ina: 247k after 3 months
>Solo RDR2: 258k after 3 months
>Solo Scarlet Nexus: 275k after 1 month
>Collab Portal 2 w/ Ina: 290k after 7 months
>Solo Super Metroid: 310k after 3 months
>Solo Farming stream: 315k after 1 month
>Collab Portal 2 w/ Ina: 320k after 7 months
>Solo JAWS watch-along: 334k after 1 month
>Collab MK8 w/ Kiara: 336k after 7 months

>>7001375
>Barely reads SCs, let alone chat
>Streams 3-4x every week
>Doesn't have milestone celebrations
Gee Anon, i wonder why she's low on SC's.

>>7001882
Her Kiara collab has more views than the Mori collab schizochama

>>7002118
>>Barely reads SCs, let alone chat
Watch streams, i called her Little stinky mermaid in her one clapping stream and fucking read it while chat was breaking hyperspace.

>>7002189
> i called her Little stinky mermaid
Why do creepbuds talk like fucking child rapists

>>7002239
Not him. Little mermaid is the name of the fairy tail and Gura herself calls people stinky.

>>7002239
Watch fucking streams tourist

>>7001375
wdym? by (total hours streamed/earings) gura is a monster and she didn't even try
doesn't matter thought. in case of gura, those memberships and views are the real deal

>>6999458
They all hate Hololive, you can pretend like all the numberfagging chumflake shitposters are just "falseflaggers" or a "minority" but the truth is that's how the majority of them is.

>>7001958
anon, there's more than one stream.

>>7000938
Stream vod has small to nothing revenue

>>7002127
what?
i dont fucking care about your numbers
the OP inquired about reasons
i gave my own reason
speaking as someone who thinks most e-celeb shit is hot garbage, that kiara and the rest of hololive do belong on that side
if it werent for gura i wouldnt even be involved in this hobby
(though the only reason i watched gura in the first place was wondering why the FUCK 2hu shithole /jp/ blew up last year, and why the fuck hiroshimoot added a /vt/ board when /trash/ already existed)

>>6999458
I hate ‘all Hololive collabs they aren’t fun to watch. It’s more fun to just watch the hololivers being themselves

>>7002518
The one thing I see a lot is chumkeks feeling like the whole world is against the memeshark and treats her poorly. The fucking nerve of these people.

>>7002630
Are you sure about that? i got minimum of 3 ads everytime I watch VOD

>>6999334
I'm not here for holoEn collabs, I'm here for gura. Dont get me wrong I do watch other vtubers it's just the rest of holoEn doesnt really appeal to me as much as Gura.

>>7002518
and you think other fanbase didn't do that?

>>7002784
>the OP inquired about reasons
No he didn't
>i gave my own reason
Which are completely irrelevant because they don't reflect the majority
>if it werent for gura i wouldnt even be involved in this hobby
So the reason everyone has already named (cumsharts don't care about hololive) was indeed correct all along

>>7003059
>and you think other fanbase didn't do that?
Yes, in fact they do not. Chumflakes are a massive outlier in that regard and they prove it again and again.

>>7002948
>chumkeks
>>7003085
>cumsharts

its so easy to spot

>>6999458
esl. hard to listening when they all talk

>>7003128
>that image
I can't believe how childish some of them are. I thought it was just a meme. But her fanbase is actually like that...

>>7003128
>treating anonymous imageboard post as a fact

>>7003177
>>7003128
samefagging didnt make your opinion valid

>>7003201
Cry more schizo.

>>7003416
>oh nyooo muh 4chanX inspect element

hilarious

>>7003138
?

>>7003416
Fix it for you. no need to thank me boss

>>7000223
Even better. He's gonna go to inspect element and says, "I can do that too"

>>7003696
But if (You) are (You), who is he?

>>7003696
>1 pixel off
Try again retard.

>>7003022
Shibuya hal said so

>>7000269
not watching vtubers is considered lazy now ? imao the abosolute state of this board
get a life retard

>>6999334
Wouldn’t collabs be lower because there’s multiple angles (5 in this case) and aside from the true mad lads who will have every window open, people will only watch one. People who like Gura but put her as second favourite to the other 4 will watch them instead.

>>7003752
he is (you)

>>7003780
Here you go, boss.

>>7004092
Why do most people get a collab buff then instead of debuff?

>>7003797
>lemme check his channel
Are you sure this channel is even comparable? English speaking content channel in fact gain more monetization than local content like his channel, that's why JP chubbas prefer superchat

>>7001881
Yup I also feel like gura gets ignored most of the time in full gen collabs, take yesterday's stream for example only person who was responding to gura was mori

>>7004317
Dunno what kind of deal he has but he streams simultaneously on both twitch and youtube. I thought having memberships on meant exclusivity?

>>7004539
that kind of stuff also affects his channel earning, I know its weird but youtube algorithm works like that

>>6999458
I watch Gura, to see Gura, not those other gags

>>7004250
>Why do most people get a collab buff then instead of debuff?
EN collabs aren't as good as their solo stuff. All of them hold back compared to their normal streams and it just makes it feel like you're watching a 'Great Value' version of what you're used to.

>>7004250
The appeal of collabs is watching people interact with each other.
HoloEN has poor group chemistry together.
It's not a mystery why people don't watch their collabs.

>>7001631
This. I realize now that it was all an act. I just don't like vulgar women.

>>7004947
Probably because they don't do as much collabs as HoloJP. They're just not used to interacting on stream

>>6999458
>collabs tend to be absolute shit games to watch like overcooked or minecraft
>the en chubas have no generational synergy; some have better chemistry with others but they all have bad chemistry together
>the rest of the en chubas are on completely different wavelengths that Gura's viewers might not enjoy ie Kiara is more tryhard, Mori is forceful, Ina is low energy, watson is fecetious
>introvert shark's butthole is so tight she can only handle two collab partners at a time before her mind breaks and she goes limp the moment you insert a third
>shork literally needs to be groomed by her collab partners to loosen up, lie back, spread her legs and take whatever collab randomness happens in stride

tldr She's autistic and awkward around people, and the shit tier performances fail to hold people's interests. Gura's fans are just their for blue brrat. If she's not being a cheeky brrat then why even watch?

It's the same problem pink abomination had when she got facerolled by shitbird. The inability to overcome that mental block of being overly self aware by instead going full retard is ultimately Gura's biggest weakness. She should learn from Korone, who embraced her dorkiness and eccentricities as character traits and become widely beloved by the entire hololive fanbase despite being a bitchy sukeban hag irl.

>>6999458
As a Koronesuki, I'm also not a big fan of collabs. I'm happy Korone is socializing though.

>>7010754
Oh, unless it's Okayu. Korone could light up a room with how upbeat Okayu gets her.

Man, you can really see who Gura synergizes with.

>>7011535
When was the last Gurame minecraft collab?

>>7011535
They played minecraft for 6 hrs?

>>7010754
The only Korone collabs I enjoy are with Okayu and Migo.

>>7011535
Didn't Mori leave early because something happened irl?
Cope kfp fag

>>7004250
Wtf... people like this need to lurk in number threads, collabs are DEBUFF BECAUSE THE AUDIENCE IS SPLIT BETWEEN COLLABORATORS

>>7013021
>didn't Mori ruin yet another collab?

>>7013088
Not true. Collab is a buff for most people.

>>7000065
>>7000130
DO CHICKENFAGS REALLY???

>>7000526
Not caring about hololive goes against the hako oshi strategy that Cover pushes as part of the idol branding.

Not a chumbud but I don't really like collabs in general unless I'm a fan of all parties. All a collab does is forces me to watch people I don't like or care about. So I can understand their perspective.

Minecraft is a shit game and the reason they took so long to slay the Ender Dragon is because they were told they'd be linked to the JP server when they did, but collabing with Coco was a nono up until very, very recently and so they put it off until graduation because Coco was active on the JP server explicitly to leave a legacy there when she decided to graduate.

Just a reminder that Eggboy and friends were helping chink antis shill their pirate streams.

>>7014172
Stop the bait, it's not even funny...
Just retarded.

>>6999458
people who watch gura doesnt really like other v-tubers

>>7001631
>isn't a depressive mess
OH NO NO NO NO
OHOHOHO
AH, LOOK AT THE TOP OF HIS HEAD!

>>7014686

>300k viewers
dead streamer

>>7015904
Every faggot in this thread should go contribute to the views on this stream because it was great.

>>7000294
>Chiara did the second most to finally get ready to kill the ender dragon
>Behind Mori who barely plays MC and was fucking awful during most of the collab
Chimkin...

>It's Kiara
>It's Mori
The truth is that collabs are a debuff for Gura across the board, regardless of who it's with.
The only exception so far has been the festival, I imagine she'd get pretty good numbers for her first (real) JP collab as well.

>>7018192
Her collab with Nacho.....how does it compare to the others?

>>6999458
Kiara and Calli talk all the time and everyone else is quiet lol.

>>7018332
You can literally just check here https://holo.poi.cat/vtuber/gura
It did roughly the exact same as the trinity collab for live views, but the VOD currently has 240k more views, despite being shorter.

>samefag chumkekslol
Epic Thread

>>6999334
ok im not reading all this, but isnt it because people are watching their favorite member of EN during collabs since they are all streaming at the same time?

>>7000000

>>7019461
Yes, but schizos and retards desperate for attention want you to believe otherwise. Collabs are debuffs when they are on multiple channels like that. Each fanbase has a fair amount of overlap and most people just watch one stream

>>6999334
Watching her Minecraft gameplay is extremely frustrating. She's really bad at it.

>>6999458
it's not collabs, it's minecraft. Ina is the only EN that plays well enough to not make everyone watching want to put their head through a wall

>>7002108
So that's why she stopped playing Metroid, she only cares for views. >>7001609
Did she really?

EN collabs suck stinky fucking balls
-Gura tones down her jokes
-Ina and Ame don't say anything
-Kiara doesn't shut up
-Calli is fucking dead weight

>>6999334
everyone from Holo EN was streaming at the same time so of course numbers get all over the place.

>>7003055
Does Gura get the best fanart?

>>6999334
she's honestly more fun being the main dish
also rest of the holoen is trash

>>6999458
Chumchads know Ina is the one to watch when it comes to minecraft.