/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>69951490
Man, House of the Dragon marketing sure has its finger on the pulse of the young weeb community.

What's the point without the insider anon?

>>69951490
>NDF are so assblasted they created a list of people to block and etc.
>https://rentry.org/bandwagoners
Imagine being a niji defender

>>69951490
Elira lost. Selen won.

schizo general?

>>69953747
Not that I’m defending this faggotry, but you retards literally create threads that reach bump limit about prominent nijisister twitterposts.
you both need to stop being sad losers and hatefuck or something

>>69954107
chill, sister

>>69954107
>not that I'm defending this faggotry
>proceeds to defend it
was there a rentry that listed every single twitter account that claimed they wouldn't support selen?

>>69954997
I don't even think there's a comprehensive list of doki supporters as big as theirs. It's missing a few like Hyte but it's got a lot there.

Assuming kurosanji has a fucking future lolol

>>69954997
My bad, do continue making more twitter seethe threads kek

So, is this the result of pitting their own talents against each other instead of the outside?

>>69957456
They just don't give a fuck, they're inwardly devouring themselves

Nijien will continue burying themselves with yabs, all the non-retarded members will leave, elira will probably have to settle out of court with doki and go back to being a 2view with a handful of groomers like Elira's Forever Cake Noises trying to fuck her etc. Hopefully enna is one of those asians that wanders into a black neighborhood by accident and ends up on the news if you know what I mean. Millie is already punished enough by being Millie. Vox will probably diddle the wrong kid and end up in Nonceland.

>>69957456
That's the funny part- pitting your talents against each other should normally have meant people like kanae, kuzuha, salami and mito end up choking out the smaller talents. But in this case it was a perfect sync of hyenas killing a lion- Doki was bigger than Elira and Enna in terms of viewerbase, but they teamed up in the clique and brought in da boyz and basically ruined pomu and selen.

>>69954107
DO NOT REDEEM

>>69957456
Yes.

>>69953747
Imagine caring enough to block all these people lmao

What more is there to say? NijiEN is a sinking ship. Whoever stays is desperate since they have no gig lined up or they do not have the confidence they'll make it as an indie.
Pomu leaving was the day NijiEN died.

>>69953747
Did someone make an archive of this? If this gets attention, especially on the artists side, they will take this down. This needs to be preserved to show how full of shit the fans of niji are.

do you think nijien would be doing better if they had cunny?

There's not much more to say until the next yab happens next week or Anycolor's stocks somehow dip below 3000 yen on monday.
EN's future as it stands isn't looking too good, Enna is now their most popular girl and yet she had less viewers for both this year's birthday stream and her Nier concert. Selen overlapped both those streams just by playing a ChatGPT-powered game, and a Batman game that's about 14-15 years old now.
Hell, Enna may be even be making less money than Selen considering she barely gets superchats, and those superchats are already taxed with YT taking a 30% cut on top of Anycolor taking potentially their 20-30% on top of that. And we already know the talents basically get jack shit from merch anyways.

>>69962419
Yes, but EN would've sabotaged it by letting a roastie voice it, like they did for Enna and Millie.

>>69961291
https://web.archive.org/web/20240225061511/https://rentry.org/bandwagoners
https://archive.is/el80O

>>69953747
>telling people to block artists that still support Niji just because they work with Doki
How are these fags so fucking sensitive?

>>69963270
sisters are just really, really dumb.

>>69963270
Because they immigrated from the k-pop fanbase so they're clinically insane.

>>69954107
ew Im not fucking a stinky flip fujo

now a LATINA fujo maybe

>>69963270
I'm not sure this would affect the artist at all since I doubt the sisters commission stuff. unless one of them has a huge twitter account being blocked shouldn't do anything either

>>69951490
>nijien civil war
>pomu, selen, and a few good men (may not exist)
>vs the multiple cliques alliance and the boyz army
Looks more like a massacre than a war to me

>>69953747
Sisters are fucking hilarious.

Let's not.

>>69951490
>nijisanji
>future

yeah about that...

>>69951490
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>>69963822
Doppio and Ren are good allegedly. Everyone else is an unknown factor to me except for the obvious clique orbiters

>>69951490
Why did they have to make it lore accurate?

>>69953747
I just love how mad they've had to be to go out of their way to make this

>>69963822
Well that's what it was, wasn't it. Every successful girl has been pushed out. The clique 'won' their internal conflict, they just underestimated how badly it would make them look.

>>69963043
Thank you for your service.

>>69957804
“But I’ve got a negroid best friend!”
“Bitch who?”
*shows a picture of Quinn*
“Ahahaha, fuck you bitch.”
*gunshot crack*

>>69953747
What the fuck, this takes me back to the days of BTS drones bombing people on the internet, and mobbing them in public.

>>69953747
You, Tectone got in on this too? Based, sisters are fucked now.

>>69963822
Elira and the Clique basically Order 66'd the branch. Everyone not with them is in hiding.

>>69953747
Rima is missing? How these sisters do her so dirty? And pucy lyre is missing too? But that fag backstabber cyyu is listed...
Man, these sisters are crap at this

>>69963995

>>69953747
sisters are a vindictive bunch let me tell you, I don't think males are capable of being this petty and vengeful at the same time

>>69966455
Long live the Queen

>>69966500
Men are more aggressive, which leads to them settling their gripes through direct confrontation. Women are prone to internalize their anger, which turns into toxic behavior.

>>69966500
>I don't think males are capable of being this petty and vengeful at the same time

Nah, when men decide to be petty and spiteful we blow women out of the fucking water.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Kleidion
>Basil divided the prisoners into groups of 100 men, blinded 99 men in each group and left one man in each with one eye so that he could lead the others home;[38] this was done in retaliation for the death of Botaneiates, who was Basil's favourite general and advisor, and also to crush the Bulgarian morale.
>For this action, Basil gained the nickname Boulgaroktonos (Greek: Βουλγαροκτόνος, Bulgarian: Бългapoyбиeц), "the Bulgar-slayer". Samuel died of a heart attack on October 6, 1014, reportedly due to seeing his soldiers blinded.

That's some extreme spite.

>>69953747
I mean to be fair half of the streamers/content creators on that list are huge faggots, unless you're going to start telling me domiarigafaggot is suddenly a saint cause he said nijisanji is bad

I bet that the secret NijiEN leaker is Victoria

>>69951490
Sure, what future?

>>69969299
Sink the yacht.

>>69966500
i don't know man, most these nijihate threads are made by men. if that's not petty and/or vengeful i don't know what is.

>>69951490
Ok so here's what I think will be happening in nijisanji en in the near future, please note that these streams and events have exact times:
And that's about it.

>>69970898
We're petty too, but in this case a beloved woman nearly died for the sake of a few egos and we don't want to let them forget that if it can prevent even one more victim.

>>69971049
>this from the place that says "do a flip" normally
As if this boards tourist problem wasn't obvious enough.

>>69971143
The difference is we actually liked this woman.

>>69971049
>>69971171
>we
YOU don't belong here.

>>69953747
I remember at elementary whenever some girls were fighting they would ask people whuch side we were in, and then list the names on paper. That's pretty much how I see this.

>>69971222
Seethe more

>>69971222
Trips of truth

>>69971295
Cope

>>69963043
This is so funny to me, after all their talks of ''rent free''. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>>69952623
>dookiebird
really...

>>69952623
>my dad works for nijisanji!
>retards believe it

>>69971453
>The sisters calling her dookiebird /here/ were actually EN livers

>>69963952
I don't know about Ren. I think he's actually a massive suck-dick who's full on board with defending the ship.

>>69951490
Vtuber agencies where a talent took on managerial duties:
>Tsunderia
>Cyberlive
>Akio Air

>>69966455
God I can't wait for the hyenas to eat Elira.

>>69971516
>I make up shit about what a post says
>I believe it myself
Anon...

>>69968512
Women would've cut off their balls and a hand while they were at it.

>>69971663
who's gonna backstab her first?
place your bets
hard mode: you can't say nijisanji itself

I think Scarle, Selen and Pomu should becomes based vtubers and collab with Pippa.

>>69968512
basil was probably gay, it doesn't count

>>69971789
Enna, but she'll manipulate Millie into doing the dirty work.

>>69971789
Caesar is going to be stabbed by the Senate once Zaion's NDA expires and she tells all.

>>69971789
If Vox doesn't menhera himself into a scandal over this I'll be very, very surprised.

>>69971789
Millie is only retarded and doesn't understand that actions have consequences.
She'll kill the branch if some outside friend tells her to.

>>69971868
well, with elira gone enna would be the defacto queen of nijiEN

>>69971222
>>69971340
I wonder who could be behind these posts

>>69971848
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basil_II#Modern_views_and_depictions_in_literature
>He urges Greeks to follow the example of Basil II: "Instead of blinding so many people, Basil should have better killed them instead. On one hand these people would not suffer as eyeless survivors, on the other the sheer number of Bulgarians would have diminished by 15 000, which is something very useful."
I dunno man, this was said by a straight guy about a thousand years later, so that's a millenium-petty spite.

Maybe it's only Balkan/Grecian men who can muster such petty vengeance.

>>69971222
I think you're unironically right, anon. I probably don't. Thanks, I'll go be productive with my time.

>>69971540
I believe it

>>69971789
My bet is on Enna, because that girl is a stone cold bitch. Then again, they are her nepo hires. Maybe they just coast and milk the branch until it gets shut down. Who is going to stop them?

>>69966500
Explain the male sisters then

>>69953747
Kek

>>69972518
Trannies

>>69972518
The more I read about Sisters, the more entertaining they get. Why are they watching Nijisanji, when they can watch themselves sperg out like this?

>>69972518
More like nu-male sisters.
Throw an Elira funkopop at them and watch those jaws unhinge like a snake.

>>69960789
To show how thin skinned and fragile they are there's also this gem. Their own subreddit is in shambles apparently according to that artist that was "harrassed" for selling nijimerch at a con last week. In literal open revolt. The thing is they can't/won't do anything about it because they're scared they'll be downvoted apparently.

>>69972518
cucks/homotrannies have female-coded brains

>>69955763
this, the prospect is just continued stagnation here from the stigma of its name unless it gets 100% repaired. which I don't think will ever happen unless doki herself forgives them and explains everything in detail.. but it sounds rather like she's leaning in the opposite direction and she'd be ready to put the whole branch 6 feet under if she was allowed to completely run her mouth.

they already weren't doing so hot with the latest waves all debuting to smaller crowds and holding tepid CCVs (to put it extremely nicely.. new Phase girls are doing better than most of the new NijiENs these days). I cannot imagine how it'd go down if they announced another wave like, next week or next month, because they usually spam waves every few months as their strat. fucking imagine someone's debut getting completely raided and shat on by people just mad at niji and coming to jeer at them trying to move on. it'd be immense.

>>69972889
projectionsissies

>>69973050
>new Phase girls are doing better than most of the new NijiEN
That is rough man, the stockholders better not see that.

>>69953747
How did Parrot not make it

>>69972889
>Is Sister
>Supports backstabbing, cliques and sabotage
>Supports outrage mobs and slander
>''The other side have female-coded brains''
Anon, I do not know how to tell you this... You are confused about the shit men and women get in to. Do you not have a lot of life experience or?

>>69973098
>>69973214
are you ESL? I was clearly referring to the "male sisters" on the niji side, retard

>>69953747
>Niji says to support all artists
>NDF has a blacklist of artists that should be blocked

>>69971789
I can imagine Enna is going to back stab Millie. Millie was always the most disposable pawn of the clique after Kyo

>>69971663
Like Enna and Millie? You think they'd betray their bestie? I do.

>>69973576
I honestly think Elira & Enna are tighter than Millie thinks.

Nijisanji will probably have a degradation of talent for any future generations. A lot of people that would have considered joining previously won't even apply.
You'll end up with vtubers who are more desperate than skilled, nepo hires or aren't even experienced joining.

>>69951898
The Nijisanji Cargyllbowl between Wose and Maririn is gonna do numbers

>>69972518
>nearly gotten ac sued with a sponsor joke
They are mentally ill and should get professional help. All the BPD posts are just projection.

>>69972518
>SA jokes at the expense of the victim
>the victim was a video game character

>>69953747
Holy shit whoever made this is not just vindictive and petty but i don't think they even watch any chuubas outside of niji. Even though they fucking collabed with doki they leave Unnamed/Yugo out and they catagorize snuffy, probably the most popular chuuba on the list, as just some random bitch with a lot of followers.

>>69974521
These same "people" think that drawing porn of a fictional character (Elira) is "revenge porn".

>>69974567
bold of you to assume they even watch niji

>>69972518
>made sa jokes at the expense of the victim
What's their opinion on Vox's rape asmr streams?

>>69971143
It's only funny if we tell them to kys. If someone else does it then they can fuck off.
Don't talk about tourists if you think anons aren't capable of working for a "noble" cause (even if only out of spite).

>>69951490
Aren't Niji going to be fine? I mean the EN branch is going to fade away to nothing and probably get dissolved at some point, but EN really was unironically negligible, at least once they started their inexorable decline in mid-2022 and stopped being a potential growth market. I mean, EN was basically on this trajectory anyway - if you look at the numbers that's been obvious for a while. The Selen thing was flashy and exposed a hilarious level of incompetence but EN was being run that way from the beginning and it showed in their steady decline.

>>69974934
No, the dip was suppose to be temporary. Investors have always seen the horizontal branches of Nijisanji as global dominance. For them to have fucked up in other areas it's fine but this was the EN branch, it's the other half of the world. The fact that they are incapable is going to result in blood being spilled this coming March.

>>69974934
> but EN really was unironically negligible
Not really, NijiEN is the golden goose that Riku put in front of the investors to make them believe that Anycolor can keep growing. He literally told them last time that it didn't really matter if the branch was declining a little, because they were still attracting new viewers to the JP side.

That's why the JP investors are so fucking angry right now with Riku. If EN is canned it would prove that Anycolor is incapable of keep growing, and that would be a death sentence for the investors.

>>69974934
Maybe if they had invested and/or changed some things but whatever happened was way too little, way too late. I'm not sure even NOW they understand how fucked they are. Nevermind years ago when the first cracks appeared.
IIRC NijiEN was 20% of NijiJP or something like that, but the real problem is that they consider the JP market saturated, so the only way they can grow is overseas. They fucked up NijiKR, NijiID, NijiIN and now EN is knee-capped. Not gone, but in bad shape in terms of growth potential. It was on a bad path before, but now even if they notice they can't do shit about it.

>>69972518
A third of men are cognitively feminine and vice-versa. In ye olden days these cognitively feminine men would be religious zealots, churchmen, theologists, etc.... With the decline of religions in the post-industrial world, most of these types have become the typical mentally-ill hyper-consoomer nu-males. You will always see beta-orbiters around any female-majority group, and this is not limited to just Nijisisters, or any entertainment fandom.

>>69974934
You're right that this was the ultimate trajectory of Nijisanji, but they won't get out unscathed. The investors are expecting foreign expansion to bring in growth for the company, since the JP market is too saturated for Niji to reasonably expand meaningfully there. Not only has EN failed to expand significantly, but Anycolor's negligence in management has created a nightmare PR scenario where the EN market no longer wants Niji in it. With EU almost impossible to establish a standalone foothold, ID and KR being dead already, and CN locking Anycolor out, there aren't any other realistic avenues to expand. Which means no more growth. Which means investors are going to dump their stock before they get left holding the bag. Which means a certain Riku Tazumi is going to end up worse off than before the IPO, and with no way to get back to that point.

The nonesense will continue until morale improves. Oh and they should probably rebrand in a merger or something. Would make pretending to solve any issues more convincing to shareholders.

Imagine copy pasting your formula of ripping off people all over the world. Only to be taken off your luxury yacht one day and forced to bow down to the plebeians. Disgusting performance Riku, shamefru display!

>>69975308
>Riku Tazumi is going to end up worse off than before the IPO, and with no way to get back to that point.
Thoroughly deserved, the useless prick.

Realistically, is there any sort of collaboration or sponsorship promotion that NijiEN could do that would save the branch long-term?

>>69975231
Didn't their chinese/taiwan branches also fail?

>>69975475
They could try to collab with Doki, Mint and Sayu.

Riku has become a laughing stock in Japan, I can see him stepping out of the CEO chair if he can't get the investors back to his side.

>>69971656
>>Cyberlive
I heard bad rumor from that one, really bad.

>>69972276
Basil did good from what he wanted. Losing an army, killed or captured , was expected. Making so many go back blinded put a burden on the bulgarians, made a living reminder for everyone to what happens if you approach Constantnople, shattered their morale everyday , and sent a message to other peoples about who not to mess with.

Greece needs more Basils less angry shouting people.

>>69975475
They need to take action themselves, not leech off a collab. It's not like they're just flopping in viewership because they're boring - their reputation is damaged now.

Best course of action would be to fire the incompetents, blame everything on them, and promise to make improvements. I actually think this could be possible since Riku did show humility by actually making a bowing apology video, unlike Bud Light which didn't even fire the feminist exec who ruined everything and are simply hoping everyone forgets the drama by making "good" ads now.

>>69975475
not really, the only way would be improving nijiEN at the core with better management, a talent pr-training programme and better pays and working condition
basically investing more money than they ever did to save a basically dead branch
not gonna happen

>>69975792
>Best course of action would be to fire the incompetents, blame everything on them, and promise to make improvements.
That's not going to happen, it would be the same as admitting the bullying allegations.

Their best chance is to memory hole Doki and Elira and hope that the new wave is Luxiem 2.0

>>69975834
Well it's not like the allegations are against Riku himself. It would be simple to fire the EN clique and blame it all on them, saying they deceived JP management and ran the place themselves. Then make a promise saying they will endeavor to maintain better communications between branches to avoid this issue in the future. The only thing stopping them from doing all this is pride. It's not like Bud Light where they can't fire the feminist exec without implying they're disavowing ESGkikery, even though there's no real downside to this unless the blackrock funding conspiracies are true, which ironically their actions seem to imply.

>>69951490
imagine the fucking delicious seethe if the purple faggot gets fired for that, I'm cumming just from thinking about it

>>69975792
This. A CEO bowing might be good enough for the JP market, but in the West when a company has a big fuckup the expectation is that heads will roll. The people perceived to be the cause of the problem must face repercussions, only then can people expect things to improve. By not doing that, then there remains the perception that the company is still bad and nothing has changed.

>>69975834
Blud, it's a bit too late for that. They either need to scapegoat someone for being the bully, or at least have a better explanation for what was said and why it was not bullying (le retard de Vox Akuma and his dogshit "opinions" is not good enough).

Throwing the sisters a bone: assuming there was no intentional harassment, that still means SOMETHING was done that made Selen feel unduly harassed. It doesn't matter if they think it was deserved or not, the optics of the situation have already assumed the worst. Best thing they could do is admit to the blame and apologise. Like, not for direct bullying, but something like "we put too much pressure on her to follow protocol without considering her mental health and for that we are deeply sorry".

>but that makes company le look bad
The PR has hit rock fucking bottom, being stubborn is not going to make anything better. The CEO bowing might be "humble" to a JP audience, but in the english speaking world not admitting fault and refusing to apologise is the height of arrogance. Just fucking apologize directly, even if you're not at fault it's better for the optics.

>>69975882
Herein lies the problem no. 325.
Who in their right mind would sign up now? Considering Nijisanji's hiring criteria, they don't even look at 2 views. Look at the numbers the last 2 gens are pulling. If you're a twitch partner already/average 300-500CCV or higher you're better off staying indie instead of getting airdropped into this current shitshow.

>>69975792
Did he though? Because he's been catching shit for doing it with his hands for being behind his back. So people are calling him a dishonest lair and making fun of him for being a drop out again.

>>69975792
Bud Light actually did end up firing the exec in the end, along with another marketing exec, but it was too little too late, and they never apologized about the whole experience, so there was no rope to try and climb out of hell with. I guess by contrast, Riku making his own apology video gives AnyColor a rope to climb, but if the rrats and supposed leaks are to be believed, the EN branch feels zero amount of remorse for this whole event, and that's by in large the discourse now in the normiesphere. If they terminate the folks who people blame the Selen bullying most on, I can see them coming out with battle scars, but they probably feel like they'd be out of their fuckin' minds to fire three +500k livers and Vox over one dragon who became a bird, the main company is probably long-term doomed on 90% of actions they could take.

>>69975970
If they want to clean up the house they would need to fire all the people that were involved in any way with the bullying allegations, and that would mean kicking out:

>Elira
>Vox
>Ike
>Enna
>Millie

That's literally shooting the branch in the head, and that would make the investors ask for RIku's ass. And let's not forget that those are not the only problematic members: Luca broke the NDA, Aster bullied Scarle, and Finana and Kotoka threw Zaion under the bus.

If they really want to make amends, they would need to close down the branch and start from scratch.

>>69976200
They've publicly stated that the west is a key part of their strategy for growth. Firing the stains on the company who have mostly dead subs anyway would be the smart thing to do, assuming they actually are responsible, otherwise they will just be cancer on EN and keep fucking it over forever into the future, not even to mention the reputation hit.

If everyone turns out to miraculously be innocent then they still have to consider firing a scapegoat. Otherwise the alternative would be to stifle their growth for years while waiting and praying for everyone to forget the drama.

They’ll be cooked once Sonny gets the idea to fake his death again

>>69976247
>fire top dogs who are corrupt
>pave the way for the literal whos to grow
They can even run a shill campaign to #supportthe3views who've been unfairly hit by the drama. There's no doubt there will be saviorfags who will go the extra mile to provide support to them, provided niji's actions does actually restore public faith in the company. If they can't do that then people will refuse to support any of them out of spite for the company itself.

The most important thing to them and their investors should be maintaining faith that they can succeed in the west in the future. The short term is absolutely fucked no matter what so their decisions need to consider the long term.

>>69976436
>pave the way for the literal whos to grow
I can tell you right now that Luxiem's fanbase won't watch anyone else.

>>69975882
That seems to be the only path forward, they clearly aren't going to transparently address allegations sufficiently and communicate it well enough to actually fix anything, their only hope it to muddle through the self-imposed decline and hope the brand endures.

It's an incredibly boring result since they aren't going bankrupt and they aren't going nuclear, it's just going to be a "we'll see if they are still going in two years" type situation

>>69976247
Then pick one

Pin everything on that liver and feed that one to the dogs. You just need *A* scapegoat

>>69976563
I very highly doubt they make enough money to justify dooming EN to be a desolate wasteland except for them and their audiences.

>>69976247
You know they can probably get away with firing one ie a scapegoat (pick one doesn't matter. Ike probably should be worried no-one cares about him) and just slowly phase the others out by winding down their contracts and not renewing. As current contracts wind down frame it as - due to EN restructuring they feel they are unable to offer a contract reflecting their true worth on the open market or offer them a ridiculously bad contract that no-one would sign. No-one externally is going to kick up a stink because EN is in the shitter right now and financial reasons are acceptable. While the contracts are winding down put them on a leash in the meantime, get them to stream as little as possible/every stream/twitter comms heavily monitored. Skinwalk twitter again if you have to. Slowly start pushing the untainted ones as the faces of EN, transition away from the dirty 1/2 dozen in promo material.

>>69976630
>Pin everything on that liver and feed that one to the dogs. You just need *A* scapegoat
Ok, let's see:
>We fire Elira and blame everything on her
>"Wait, what about Vox? He acted like a fucking prick, suggested that Selen made up the bullying claims and even admitted that he got mad at her because she was hurting the 'company'"
>We fire Vox too
>"Wait, what about that other guy?"
It would never end.

>>69976745
Just get the one who cant defend herself and brings the least value
Millie would be the best candidate imo

>>69976631
>I very highly doubt they make enough money to justify dooming EN to be a desolate wasteland except for them and their audiences.
Luxiem is literally the crutch of the branch.

>>69976816
>Millie would be the best candidate imo
What they need to do is stop throwing people under the bus.

>>69976824
I'm sure investors will be happy to hear that anycolor has decided to permanently ruin all hope of expanding in the west for some guys who earn less in a month than Kuzuha does in a day.

>>69976921
And even so they are still the crutch of the branch. Blame Anycolor for literally putting all the eggs in the same basket and ignoring everyone else.

>>69976985
In the unlikely event that all of them are complicit in bullying, firing them is better for the long term survival of the company. I doubt that's actually the case though, firing the main bad actors should be enough, or even just firing a scapegoat and ordering Luxiem to behave from now on to have their cake and eat it too.

>>69976920
No
As abon stated they put the idea out there that they recieved reports of harassment from liver/s. To westerners heads must roll before they believe steps are being made to restore trust.

You only need to get rid of one of the suspects, if theyre integral to the operation. Pick the weakest link.

>>69977093
>>69976920
Actually now that enna's numbers are down
Get rid of both enna and millie so that it fits the current known narrative of multiple harassers
Then they can still be besties in failure lol

>>69977054
>long term survival
That's the thing anon, at this point Riku's best chance of preventing the investors from jumping ship is to trust on Elira's cocksucking skills. Niji has failed every single one of their attempts to expand overseas, and Selen's drama has burned down the stocks and shot the branch in the knee.
I'm sure the investors would be thrilled if Riku keeps firing the few remaining talents that make them some money and make some vague promises about "long term" benefits.

>>69976920
It's kinda too late at this point. They've botched the PR so badly that they look like the villains. The only way to shed that reputation fast (like before the stocks tank more) is to shift blame onto one person or group of people and fire them so you can say "the guilty ones have faced consequences".

Now, you would kinda need to get the fired person to admit to the fault or people might call out the scapegoating. I suggest bribery, or I dunno take one of their family members hostage or something. I'm not Riku Tazumi, I don't have the money to hire the Yakuza.

Either that, or scapegoat someone who isn't talent. Just pick a random dipshit in the office and say they were the bully. Done & dusted.

>>69977639
Are you ESL? What part of my posts imply that I'm saying they should fire all the innocent high performers? Every toxic person should be fired regardless of performance and that's it, otherwise they will screw over the branch from the inside forever.

>>69977715
Again, the toxic people that were part of the bullying allegations are also some of their best money makers.

>>69977822
Again, they don't earn nearly enough to justify leaving them there to permanently ensure EN will never succeed.

>>69977639
It's a bit of a Catch22. Firing any more talent would look even worse for the investors.
At the same time... it's like getting bitten in a zombie apocalypse. You can't just patch it over and pretend everything is fine, you gotta amputate the limb to have any hope of survival. If you don't then the infection lingers and gets worse and then bam you're zimbambo.

From a moral standpoint, the right thing to do is find out who is responsible for the bullying or what was perceived as bullying and have them publicly face repercussions (i.e. fire them). That's the only way anyone can have confidence that you are no longer a shit company.
From a practical standpoint, you just need to appear to have done the above. So you might fire whoever would best be fitted to take the blame for the incident. Then you can explain to the investors "there was a bad actor sabotaging our operations, they have been dealt with and we have put in new people that can ensure it won't happen again".
THAT would be for the best, because if you aren't seen to take any action then the reasonable question from both shareholders and customers is "how do we know you won't just continue to fuck up again and again?"

Is Niji the only company where their livers will shit on anyone who's fired from their company?

>>69974433
Low-functioning beta BPDs & girlboss alpha BPD queen bitches royally jealous of Selen's high-functioning Sigma BPD grindset

They despise Selen's ability to rise above her diagnosis and attempt to get along with everyone like normal human beings are supposed to, so they desperately try to drag her down to their level of using their diagnosis as an excuse to simultaneously wallow in their own misery while flinging it at everyone else they perceive as a moving target.

>>69977822
Then, again, pick the weakest as a blood sacrifice to appease the public out of control narrative

You cant have everything you want if youve fucked up till this point. Thats just how the real world operates.

>>69977849
Anon, we are just going in circles. They made enough money to allow Riku to bullshit his way through the last investors' meeting. It's not a coincidence that they used Vox and Ike for the black frame stream, they are the face of the branch.

>>69978140
I mean, they are in a lose lose situation, their best move is to keep their head down, hope everyone memory hole the past couple of months and slowly graduate the toxic organs

>>69978176
Again, Riku has publicly declared to shareholders that expansion into EN is crucial to their business growth/strategy. They want the next Gura. They want Kuzuha EN. So to say that they're going to give up and settle for some washed up 1k ccv fujobaits is investor suicide. There is absolutely no way they choose to keep the rot instead of amputation.

>>69978246
Then they die slowly unless they get a luxiem 2.0
Which is more unlikely now that theyre undesireable as an employer

>>69978269
>There is absolutely no way they choose to keep the rot instead of amputation.
And yet Luca is still in the company despite of breaking his NDA in every way imaginable, Vox is still doing collabs like usual, and Elira is going to be in the next concert and will even do a meet and greet.

dont worry guys, I found Elira! She is not suspended!

Why do they call themselves Nijisisters anyway?

>>69978618
You know the drama isn't over yet right? You can only declare that I'm wrong if/when all of them return without punishment and continue as if nothing happened. In reality, they haven't streamed in weeks because the shitstorm is still under investigation.

I still cannot fucking believe the initial Nijisanji statement. "Hey guys it wasn't us, Selen was being bullied by one of her coworkers, we won't say which one but just trust us okay?" What in the blue fuck was that supposed to be?

Hey guys! Don't forget to tweet out your #LoveForUki

>>69978727
Anon, the very fact that the black frame strean is still up is pretty telling. Anycolor didn't see anything wrong with it. As Vox said, they investigated themselves and found nothing wrong. The best you can hope is some soft graduations when things calm down and they can cover them up with a 3D concert.

>>69978989
Riku himself bowed over the termination letter, which is still up. And again, the livers are still on hiatus. It's more that they're paralyzed by indecision on what to do next. The fucking comments on the stream are still enabled.

Dan Dan Mr. Tazumi-san~

>>69954107
There's a difference between laughing at people and seething at them

Something weird is going on behind the scenes in NijiEN.

Luca:
>disappears for exactly 2 weeks, bare minimum of twitter activity
>returns
Rosemi:
>disappears for 3 weeks and also vanishes from twitter,
>streams once
>disappears again claiming illness
Elira
>Disappears for 10 days, in Japan doing stuff with Rosemi.
>Releases the black-screen video.
>Vanishes again.
>Yesterday Niji members confirmed she's talking to them behind the scenes and planning a return.
Petra
>completely disappears since February 5th
>tweeted once yesterday but otherwise nothing
Enna
>announces several weeks break after her birthday stream
>vanishes on twitter too, strange for her
Millie
>vanishes since February 7th
>recently showed activity in members, crying a lot
>tweeting about visiting japan with the males now

I think these were all suspensions, except Petra's seems to be a self-imposed exile, considering the length.

Luca's exact 2-week break is clearly a suspension, it's not even subtle. Enna's dead-silence on twitter is indicative of a suspension, but it's clear they allowed her to delay it until after the birthday stream was over, while Millie served hers immediately.
Vox has been persona-non-grata for months now, who knows what's going on with him. Ike does not even seem to be in trouble and showed no break in his activity.

So basically it's interesting the ones being suspended
>Luca, Elira, Enna, Millie
for some reason....Rosemi?

Luca's is related to the revelations about him clearly. But for the others, the only thing it could be is the bullying. You could explain Elira's suspension because she made the video....but then why were Vox and Ike not punished in he same way? Why punish Enna, Millie, Rosemi?

The only reason, the only thing that makes SENSE, is they are the bullies. Perhaps Petra too.

>>69978652
but in your picture she actually is suspended I don't get it.

>>69954107
Laughing at retards =/=compiling a hitlist to unfollow and block for simply supporting Doki or saying nijisanji has been shitty and retarded

>>69978116
This comes eerily close
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7A949gYxp3M

>>69979062
Riku bowed to the investors over the negligible claim and just made some vague promises about improving the support to the EN branch. He didn't address the bullying allegations, the talents harassing Selen while she was in the hospital after her suicide attempt, or even showed any kind of regret or remorse about terminating her in the way they did it.

Riku wants people to move on and stop asking more questions. There's no fucking way that he is going to publicly terminate more organs.

>>69979541
>wants people to move on
he should stop the organs from shooting him in the foot

>>69979541
In all likelihood the terminations will be presented as graduations. Heads WILL roll.

>>69979599
To be fair, I think he is an incompetent retard and doesn't have any idea of what he is doing

>>69973129
last night one of their gen 2s with 50k subs was doing 3.5k ccv on a pineapple pizza eating stream while finana was sitting at 300 viewers in a collab the other day
beyond grim

>>69955763
Yes, as a Cover subsidiary lol

>>69979445 (Me)
Did my reps and Holy fuck does it get weirder. Did Kawaii Gen 3 keep tabs on nepotistic bullies too which the Manager-Streamers also took as a threat? Seems like the only real difference is Kawaii tried hitting above the belt in their unprofessional retaliatory smackdown.

>>69981059
Can I have a run down on this? I've that the whole gen graduates but not the detail.

>>69953747

>>69978865
The follow-up was even more retarded
>She said she was bullied by Elira, Enna and Millie, we also breached the NDA, she's a bad girl so we'll overlap this stream with hers so you can see that the harassment is real. Elira is a ringleader btw. *plastic bottle noises*

>>69981883
kek

>>69973982
Enna seems to be the better between Millie and Enna for the mere reason that Enna knows when to shut the fuck up and do not bring problems to queen bee, I wouldnt be surprised if Elira favors her more than Millie. Besides it's a woman thing for them to hate each other and talk about each other behind their backs when they are not looking.

>>69981059
I have to say the whole Kawaii thing is nowhere equal. No PR big “all post the same stuff”, no major bs livestream, you can feel Gen 1-2 and Gen 3 are not friends with each other but because they are handling it professionally and mostly privately, and they went with graduations and NDAs, they are managing the situation.

And Niji has still done nothing to prove they are gonna fix management so even if this somehow cools down, it’s back to the same shit in mere months. They NEED to address the management issues, ghe fact they are NOT doing that only proves the corruption is too deep.

>>69951490
See
>>69973068

>>69979206
>claiming illness
she was coofing the entire stream

Nijisanji's special!

>>69982003
I'm not sure about the queen of inconsistencies being able to shut the fuck up when she has to.

Remember the "don't waste your time digging for the truth"

>>69977885
I agree with this analogy. But thing is, now that there are confirmed multiple bad actors, even if the tumor is removed, people will rejoice in the moment indeed, but then they'll direct their anger towards the inmediate members of the clique. So the rejection and sabotage towards NijiEN will continue until the inmediate threats are all dealt with. That means firing Millie, Enna, Vox. The trusty bottled water seller, i forgot his name, that appeared in the black screen video might escape the public backlash since he didnt really said anything serious or bad about doki and might have plausible deniability.

What I believe that will happen is that Anycolor is going to setup Elira to be the escape goat, the canary in the mine is going to be if livers start talking about her and painting her in a badlight (this is all premeditated, Elira and the rest of the talents will be instructed they gotta blame Elira). Anycolor will inflate her as big as the evil girl that is rumored, like she forced the other people to do her binding against their will, or blackmailed them. My suspicion is that the implicated livers that are part of the clique will say they had no other choice but to obey and throw Elira under the bus. After a few of these reports, Nijisanji EN would announce that they are initiating an investigation towards Elira (for PR purposes) that would culminate a few weeks later with her termination.

However, this alone wont be enough to salvage the reputation of Nijsanji EN, so after the Elira termination announcement it is likely that Anycolor will announce they are going to do a massive restructuration to avoid something similar ever happening again, and they will disolve Nijisanji EN, and create Nijisanji World (or global). Nijisanji EN talents will be moved here, and maybe the others from KR, ID, IN too. That will give the illusion that shit's finalyl changing for the better, and would placate the bloodthirst of the western fans. This way they avoid firing more talents and continue operations with a slow recoveru.

>>69983537
Interesting but I'm not sure about Nijisanji World, it's too vague and too large, especially if at some point Cover announce another untouched part of the market (like Hololive ES or Hololive Europe)

It would be too inefficient

>>69979206
That one leaker anon did mention some, if not everyone in NijiEN are working on Elira's return and that she might come back to shit on Selen some more.

>>69975882
Bro, TTT abandoned their pls barely over a month before debut. They're flying by the seat of their pants.

>>69983394
if what leaker-san said is true, then elira, enna and millie are getting asesored by PR, maybe they are telling her to shut the fuck up after her iconic phrase and hopefully will keep quiet this time. I have no much expectations about Millie, she will try to do her best to improve the situation and will successfully fail with flying colors and dig herself deeper and cause more trouble to elira and enna.

>>69979206
Keep in mind: hex in the follow the roses playlist stream has basically proven talents have access to others' accounts.
Also he's talked a lot about having to type tons of shit for stuff behind the scenes.
Also fulgur has mentioned their chat channels to be incredibly toxic and depressing to the point he's left at points and possibly scarle as well.
My other big suspect for someone that knows what's going on there isn't normal is alban, but he seems fine doing his mpreg bait stream and watching those that shunned him burn (while his yumes whine about being cucked by nagi and nox)

>>69982632
Now that's just pissing money away. Even if the talent isn't involved in it, Nijisanji should know that good merch sells more than bad merch. Even their sales department barely gives a shit.

>>69984005
that would be hilarious. Yes, because shitting on the suicide survivor worked SO well the first time.
By all means, I think the internet would love to see a round 2 of that.

>>69983537
>What I believe that will happen is that Anycolor is going to setup Elira to be the escape goat, the canary in the mine is going to be if livers start talking about her and painting her in a badlight (this is all premeditated, Elira and the rest of the talents will be instructed they gotta blame Elira). Anycolor will inflate her as big as the evil girl that is rumored, like she forced the other people to do her binding against their will, or blackmailed them. My suspicion is that the implicated livers that are part of the clique will say they had no other choice but to obey and throw Elira under the bus. After a few of these reports, Nijisanji EN would announce that they are initiating an investigation towards Elira (for PR purposes) that would culminate a few weeks later with her termination.
Can't wait to see how they fuck this one up.

>>69981201
No one is really sure if there was real issues. But there was enough of a rift already that they were convinced fairly easily.

>>69983826
The thing is that it works to encapsule the talents that are not from japan. If anycolor announces an ES branch or Yurop branch sooner or later it would become the same mess of the EN branch. Specially the ES branch. Even remotely suggesting it would trigger a lot of people flashback to the mess that the EN branch went through and would start getting their pitchforks again.

>>69984306
Isn't Alban the one who collabed with Altare ?
If he's focused on people outside the company then i suppose that yeah he might be one of the good ones

>>69976630
Elira.
She was running an unmoderated/unofficial vent cord whose existence got leaked which started the whole brand damage to begin with. If the rumors of her being defacto EN management are true, then its even more reason to fire her for pulling wool over the eyes of JP management while giving herself sponsor/merch opportunities over more successful members.

don't care lmao

>>69984446
they don't have to fuck it up, Elira showed how petty she is with the black screen stream, she will take the ship down with her if she's told to leave or even taken down a peg, relenting from her managerial powers would be like taking away her fix, she will lash out and do something retarded

>>69984608
i hope she fucking suffer

>>69984608
she might take the blame if there's a golden parachute for her. Of course, anycolor isnt legally obligated to provide her with that parachute, they can always opt to throw her under the bus, just like she did with others. Those who live by the sword; die by the sword. However it makes sense that they'd come to a deal.

>>69985198
Here's their golden parachute, assuming she was pseudo-management.
>We blame you for everything and we won't sue the fuck out of you.
Sounds like a good deal right? She's fucked anyways cause she's living in Japan under their visa right now anyways.

>>69951490
What fucking future awaits for this dogshit of a branch? This fucking multi-billion dollar company is having a hard time looking for competent managers with expertise in multiple languages because they can only afford pay them minimum wage. Wow, what a dilemma for a fucking billion-dollar corporation right there... fucking greedy ass company.

>>69967359
so in terms of internet women are the most dangerous individuals

>>69985316
>they can only afford pay them minimum wage
They can afford more, they just don't want to pay it. I think this whole job listing push is just to trick investors into thinking they're actually trying something so their stock doesn't collapse. They're already pissed that Riku fumbled his promise of an international expansion this hard due to sheer incompetence.

>>69985785
nah, he's just too busy building a new yacht

>>69963908
this type of post is memorable and fun

>>69972518
Does no one else notice the 2010 pen island joke of a username? was this whole thing just some rando who was playing the doxxsite like a fiddle?
Or am I just too schizo

>>69951490
Realistically they would need to pause new waves until they get a good new management in place, isolate everyone in the branch from new waves and drastically change their contacts so they could appeal to people who get incentived for saving the branch effectively. This all requires money so that isn't happening so it's over. Im sure someone popular out there has a big enough ego that they think they could save the branch if they also got paid a ton.

>>69979206
vox is still one of en's biggest members even if he's a cripple now. one reason they didn't punish ike could be the clique pressuring him, like threatening to put huge roadblocks on any projects or other things he wants. I'm not sure how much power they could have over things like new outfits

>>69985785
Oh I already knew that. Obviously Keku thinks that the bitch Elira herself and her pets are enough as management so they don't need to give high salaries to qualified people for the job. You know something that a big company should've done in the first place when they were trying to expand overseas if they arent so stingy as fuck.
Welp, the less money they need to pay, the more the will be saved for that fucker's next yacht budget I guess.

>>69985869
He's using the Youtube Play Buttons for the hull.

>>69975650
well? willing to share with the class?

>>69980685
Add to the fact last night all other Phase were streaming normally while the majority of Niji is on “hiatus”.
NDF surely rallies up /here/ but they can’t even support their own company right.

How do you hurt more than an Italian eating pineapple pizza.

>>69985785
The problem for Riku is investors aren't that retarded. Yahoo Finance JP was clowning on those minimum wage listings

>>69963952
>and Ren are good allegedly.

3 stooges video
https://twitter.com/RenZott0/status/1757202187468394874

selen termination paper work
https://twitter.com/RenZott0/status/1754623517990252579

>I’ll speak for myself.
>Very unfair situation, I’m really upset
>Please be respectful

not saying the anon im replying to is part of this they just need some reps where i've been schizo but a reminder that these faggots like ren and hex baited people into liking them by posting neutral responses to selen's termination. Later they turned face and sold the black video with some faux bfe shit

Ren
>Important.
>It would mean a lot if you could take a listen, thank you.

Hex
>i fully support and stand behind my peers on this message, it's been so
>difficult and trying on all of us. i hope to have you there, thank you for your
>love and patience

these faggots are not only not good but have tried to spin a buck both ways fucking over their coworkers in niji and fucking over selen outside of niji they are a textbook case of opportunistic parasocial baiting fucking subhuman garbage and they should be remembered as the treacherous vermin that they are by both sides of the conflict. Doubly so for Ren who sang at selen's birthday.

>>69985785
>this whole job listing push is just to trick investors
Never thought about this angle, but it kinda make sense.

>>69986245
>requires money
>expecting AnyKuro to spend money for the bare minimum in the year of our lord 2024
>fucking AnyKuro spending at all
lol
lmao even

>>69952623
WE GOT THE COUNTER-ATTACK FROM UKI, A HASHTAG TO GATHER THE RACIST CULTISTS, BOIS YOU KNOW THE DRILL

>>69953747
>404

>>69986461
imagine all the worst rrats about niji cliques but times 10
they had a discord server all dedicated to destroying one of the girls and trying to record her in vc saying the n-word to cancel her on twitter
they even came back years later to try and start drama about her for an april's fools stream where she used their old models she now owns which was more just toungue in cheek and silly
the exhead member is still on twitter responding to her own posts on vt about that talent to this day even after leaving the industry

>>69954107
>le retard de doxxsister

>>69986746
Wait I though it was a meme edit!

Do these clowns forgot what happened with the last hashtag? Oh boy we are gonna have /pol/ jump on the bandwagon. The shitstorm is gonna be legendary.

>>69951490

>>69951490
the clique is still intact so we are getting the same shitshow in the future, maybe even worst, management seems to be doing their best to keep the under control but its an unnecessary effort since they can just cut the branch, they are still not acting like a company.

>>69986897
it was not, time for the fun memes to enter the ring of those cultists

>>69986818
She's dead, stop spamming the purple dragon.

>>69986461
a girl talked her boyfriend into funding an anime girl company and making her head manager thinking it would be a fun and easy thing to do. the girl ghosted everyone including the boyfriend

>>69986997
They can’t cut the branch. Sure JP is not hurting at all, even doing well, but investors want growth and JP is saturated.

They need success oversea, and EN is the only branch left. If they cut it they will only lose more money. Their only solution is a scapegoat but if they explode all Doki needs to do is nod and the company implodes. May even implode without that.

>>69951490
KHYO THE GAYLORD AND FALSEYED THE FAGGOT MADE THIS THREAD

>>69987100
nope, she is not dead, just now free and WE ARE NOT WASTING A DAMN GOOD MODEL LMAO

>>69987185
They'll need to show actual action to gain any trust, as they are right now they'll never be able to get any quality new blood into the branch and their members are currently in a graduation conga line out the door. They're still doing stupid shit like shadow suspensions even now, that purple fag heavily implied his break is involuntary in his last stream.

>>69987252
hmmmm seethe more Nijisisters, your distraction tactics isn't working here

>>69987384
LMAOOOOOO
KHYO GO TO BED AND GET A FUCKING REAL JOB.
>I blocked your channels btw

>>69987383
he needs to be suspended for the hashtag lmao, if not he might get heart-attack from all the white elderly image we're pumping into his stupid hashtag #LoveforUki

>>69987185
It may not be amputated but it has no-chance of existing in its current form.

>>69987104
kek
>>69986820
jesas, I can only hope one day I manage to mindbreak someone as hard as that, dear God

>What they should do
Fire Elira and Vox, admit their wrong doings and make a public statement apologizing for how they treated Zaion and Selen, fold nijiEN, let graduate the talents that want to move on and transfer the rest to the JP branch. Try again in a couple of years. The investors won't be happy and probably will ask for Riku's head, but it's a viable option.
>What they are going to do
Memory hole everything and pray for no more drama.

Legit question, if Anycolor decides to fold Nijisanji EN and then tries to create a new global brand (not named Nijisanji) a few months down the line, can they get away with it?

>>69987185
>JP is doing good
It's running on inertia. The cracks will eventually begin to show, if they are not glaringly obvious already.
The fujoshi market is minuscule in the Vtuber industry, and they've already spread themselves too thin across hundreds of livers.

The company did not reinvest profits into R&D, and it shows. This is not something that can be ameliorated overnight. They can't create 3D studios, equipment, technicians, and trainers out of thin air.
They cannot create merchandise artists and creative teams out of thin air. At some point in the near future fujoshis will grow sick of buttons, keychains, and plastic chopsticks.
They cannot diversify their talent pool overnight, after they've spent 2+ years alienating fans that enjoy Idol culture, female chuubas, Vsingers, et cetera. They hyperfocused on the fujoshi market and male Vtubers (that are only really popular in asia as of now), without cultivating a holistic approach to the industry.
Their strategy has always been short-term. They wittingly make their biggest talents suffocate the younger ones, in a lord of flies/battle royale mentality. This is extremely effective short-term, as it creates "superstar" status icons, but it's terrible strategy long-term.
It is imperative for them to expand in the western market and solidify an English-speaking audience and talent pool, because English is spoken by 22% to 26% of the world population and 68% of the internet.

I could write an entire treatise about the subject.

>>69987844
what they should do is delete eliras retarded video and apologize for the phrasing in the termination notice, as it has lead to unfortunate events. then add something like "in future we will do our best to part with talents in a more dignified way."
Then never speak of this again and timeout everyone who does. But considering Eliras video is still up, Elira should be bullied into suicide.

>>69987993
they can try calling it Hole-o-Life English.

>>69988004
>The company did not reinvest profits into R&D, and it shows.
I looked at clips of Enna's birthday stream in the last week or so vs Subaru's b'day stream today. The difference could not be more stark. The production values are not even on the same planet. And we both know Subaru is going to make massive bank even if she funded it.

>>69987844
>Memory hole everything and pray for no more drama.
Something I thought about recently. But Dokibird has "bird" in her name. She also has a thief aesthetic. Where I'm going with this is that every time someone wonders in and asks "Wait, but why is her fanbase called Dragoons?" Niji is going to have a PR shitshow on their hands.

>>69987993
In theory yes. In practice name recognition is a big thing at starting completely from 0 under name that no one knows is not an easy task

>>69987844
Rather than folding into JP, a rebrand is more likely.
Graduations and a tidy severance for those that want it while everyone will redebut under the new banner.

NijiEN has no future.

>>69988434
Nijisanji Re:Gross

>>69986481
I’m sorry, are you saying you WOULDN’T rather watch Panko being forced to eat pineapple pizza than Finana playing whatever bullshit she plays onstream?

>>69987993
It could work, because then it would no longer have the stigma of NijiEN’s past, along with ability to expand into other territories. But they would also need to get completely new management and to remove the clique, otherwise the same situation will happen again.

>>69951490
Major shakeups and actually real actions (read: head rolling). Otherwise, your reputation will have a constant stain on it

>>69988512
Rebuild of Nijisanji
NijisanjiEN: 2.0 You Can (Not) Graduate

Kotoka and Meloco should start whoring themselves to gaijin viewers. That's the only way to save NijiEN

>>69989056
Sorry anon, Kotoka is currently going through the deluxe Niji experience.

>>69989056
Why would they want to save NijiEN other than loving taking multiple cocks at the same time? Being merged in JP would be their dream outcome.

>>69989360
>Mentally heal
ah yes, the family experience

>>69986746
>>69986897
>>69987066
It's a honeypot you retards, the sisters want the election tourists to shit up the hashtag so they point to it to clam Uki is the victim.

>>69989684
What if people just spam pictures of old white people in it?

>>69989360
>the apostrophes

>>69989763
>What if I were a useful idiot?

>>69988423
Honestly speaking...

>Doki has a bird thief theme.
>Elira loves P5 and Akechi.
>Literal JP black company involved.

I'm almost proud no one went for the low hanging fruit but at the same time I would be mildly interested in what memes could come out of that.

>>69979206
nobody is suspended according to both leakers recent posts, except uki, but its not known what JP told Enna Millie Elira and Reimu, could be a suspension, but Idk.

I know next to nothing about Millies recent member stream, except the title and her alleged crying. Can I get a qrd by someone on what happened? What was she (or claimed to be) sad about?

Also, its likely that clique has figured out who LK and leaker-san are. If I could figure it out despite not even being a regular niji watcher, they can too.

As for Petra, according to leaker-san, she has checked out, some anon a while ago stated that Petra is probably going to leave the industry entirely, so the whole thing doesnt actually affect her as much. Doubt shes suspended, probably just waiting for graduation time to come up.

>>69989525
there would be nothing remarkable about them if they weren't EN and they'd lose the opportunity to do handcam streams

how long until the the end-of-fiscal year reports? mid march?

>>69990809
>Not suspended.
>Barely any activity the entire month.

Might as well be if they are so scared to literally work they barely can do only members.

>>69990976
Yup, let's see if Riku has the charisma to bullshit himself out of this situation.

>>69990959
deal with EN retardation daily vs occasional handcam streams. It's not like they're standing out in EN either. Easy choice to make

>>69991122
they're not standing out in en, but they get more attention from jp because of it
the one whore's jp-pandering handcam streams is a loophole that gets her 10-20 times the viewers of a normal stream

>>69991115
i don't think he can save it, the dump will on get worse

>>69991103
the clique members are dealing with PR, but they also need to do two things a) keep their internal power by making everyone fall in line and b) make sure that they are indispensible to running EN. Right now, I dont think they can be terminated. Anycolour has proven that they have no clue what the fuck happens outside of japan and they dont know whats happening inside the branch either. Elira cant be terminated without exploding the entire internal powerstructure and terminating most knowledge of the western audience. they need her to even have a chance to run the branch and its probably impossible to terminate her without causing internal chaos as well.
Just because it would be the just thing to do and the smartest PR decision doesnt mean its financially or legally (no idea about this) the best decision.

Petra and Rosemi are in graduation queue.

>>69991467
So they are stuck with an infection that can't be cured? Great, might as well have Elira use it to leverage her position in the branch to hammer home how she is indispensible

>>69961134
>Whoever stays is desperate since they have no gig lined up or they do not have the confidence they'll make it as an indie.
Don't underestimate the psychological impact of this.
If a liver stays in NijiEN, then they are admitting to the world and to themselves that they aren't talented enough to be an indie, and aren't likeable enough to join another group like VShojo.
That must be terrible for their self-esteem and mental health, even before considering the toxic company and toxic antis.

>>69991467
>>69991711
If that's the case, the best maneuver for them would be to terminate Elira Pendora, while they promote the person behind her into a high paying top managerial position. Kick her upstairs and pray that without conflict of interest (her being a talent) shit normalizes.

>>69991399
I feel bad about being entertained by this, but I can't look away.

>>69990809
>Millies recent member stream, except the title and her alleged crying
it's surprising there hasn't been leaks of that stream. would like to see some allegations tears.

>>69992118
*allegator tears

>>69975792
Make Kuzuha the CEO

>>69990976
Seeing the nips in the financial forum, a bunch of them are still holding onto the stocks or looking to buy them unless they dip even further (aka sub 3000)

>>69991467
Assuming the GURRAT is true, they’ll need to wring the power out of the clique, revamp the whole management into a fair and efficient one, and let the world know that there are changes to build the trust up again. The nepo hires can decide whether to jump ship or not but the company can’t afford to let them hold the power any longer if it wants to stay competitive.

But it sounds so impossible after that hiring notice

>>69991711
I dont think it cant be fixed this way. its just unjust, bad for reputation, but I dont think that this means much infection wise. Yeah, Elira is clearly not a good person. But she has experience, she has been the senpai for ages. shes also been one of the branchfaces for a long time. She also probably has the knowledge to make decisions that are not bad for the company as long as there is sufficient oversight. Provide the oversight, and a way to make sure corruption is punished to a point where its in eliras interest to align with the companies best interest, and the internal problem is solved.
the infection can be fixed even without firing the clique, but that doesnt mean the damage done to reputation finances and the workplace environment is fixed. will take a long time to do anything about those.

>>69991895
I dont think terminating her is a good maneuver either. I think the perfect play here is to terminate or graduate elira the talent, and have elira the person work solely as a manager, but have one of the top execs of the mainbranch check on all conflicts within the branch, as well as all decisions that affect the livers projects and make sure elira knows that she wont get away with corruption again. this way, you keep the experience in the company, you keep the peace inside the ranks, at least outwardly but still curb the cliques power to the point where theyre workplace friends, but without them having the power to fuck over other livers. enna and millie have to be stripped of their positions as quasi managers, pay some real people instead to be eliras middlemen, but make sure theyre not nepohires and actually fucking pay them this time. this should prevent an inside revolt and it may be able to give the branch a future that way. the hardest part is selling this to the outside world, which is probably the biggest issue here.

>>69992748
they're right at the precipice now though. Should make for an interest morning session on the JP market in a few hours

>>69993522
It's not just taking the power away. I they absolutely can't afford to fire Elira, they're probably gonna have to literally collar the bitch and put her on the shortest of leashes so she's always observed and can NEVER get any funny spur of the moment idea again.

>>69983537
>and they will disolve Nijisanji EN, and create Nijisanji World (or global). Nijisanji EN talents will be moved here, and maybe the others from KR, ID, IN too. That will give the illusion that shit's finalyl changing for the better, and would placate the bloodthirst of the western fans. This way they avoid firing more talents and continue operations with a slow recoveru.

This is an interesting and potentially innovative idea which is exactly why they won't be doing it.
>>69988004
>The company did not reinvest profits into R&D, and it shows. This is not something that can be ameliorated overnight. They can't create 3D studios, equipment, technicians, and trainers out of thin air.

The difference between Cover and Anycolor could not be more obvious here. Cover is building shit like state of the art 3D studios and Holoearth. Nijisanji, as far as I can tell, is just pocketing all their cash. Pomu, one of their biggest Livers, could not get a 3D model.

>>69993522
if I was less autistic I wouldnt have needed 5 times as many lines as you for saying essentially the same thing, youre absolutely correct.

Which hiring notice are you refering to, I dont think Ive seen a recent one, they still paying minimum wage?

>>69993695
market was last open on thursday right?
was that before or after the Uki suspension became public, I dont remember. should be interesting though.

>>69993522
>>69993683
With how often NDF use "blackmail" to describe what Doki did, one wonders if they're actually projecting and Elira has been literally threatening Anycolor with the mass exodus of all the Hanamori nepohires (+anyone loyal to the clique) in order to protect herself.

We know how scared Anycolor is about the optics of losing a high volume of talents for their shareholders (they're trying to space out terminations and graduations over the totally arbitrary "queue"), so this would be the perfect thing to blackmail them over.

>>69976076
>Like, not for direct bullying, but something like "we put too much pressure on her to follow protocol without considering her mental health and for that we are deeply sorry".
what if this is the truth of the situation? like, do we have independent verification of anything worse than that?

>>69957646
take your meds and turn off fox news, gramps

>>69987993
they can't hide their involvement legally
so people will spread the news of what they are trying to do

Phase Connect is already the fourth in the west behind nijiEN, Vshojo and Hololive
and Brave still cooking VSPO EN, which can boost V4Mirai and Globie

At this point nijiEN won't grow and others still growing, this is the slow death of nijiEN

>>69993891
It took a day to grab JP attention. It was Thursday afternoon/early evening so after trading hours for JP when Uki got baited from memory. JP found out the next morning and a few hours later I think early Fri afternoon, Uki had that whole World is cruel dramafagging episode ie suspended. I think the timing of JP finding out has saved Anycolor for the time being.

>>69994306
NDF has no comeback except spamming take ur meds, I'm sure vox will enjoy the chemical sterilization meds.

>>69993856
I think many people misinterpreted her actions actually. I think they were devious, but theres one thing they werent and that is "spur of the moment" or retarded. They were thought out and to the point, the biggest mistake she made was not realizing that she cant look at this in an isolated way, people DO remember the last year, and she underestimated doki's fans and their committment.
After the initial surprise though, she probably achieved her primary and secondary goals with that blackstream. She fooled the public with that stream and if she played it right internally, and it looks like she did, she also fooled JP management, protecting her position and making sure she cant be terminated. Though, Id LOVE to know if she knew that she couldnt be terminated outright in advance despite burning so much off the stockvalue, or if that part was just lucky coincidence. Even if the branch were to die or get folded into JP, I think she has good chances of staying.

>>69994001
I dont even think shed need to do that, but its possible

>>69994369
Whatever happened to Idol? I remember hearing their name pop up before.

dookiebird is unironically correct she's literally shitting on the whole fucking company without even trying

>>69993683
>>69993856
On the one hand these are fair points, if the rrats are true then Elira is too important to let go and they can't afford the reputational hit that firing her would bring.

On the other hand, if the rrats are true and she is as petty, evil, spiteful and scheming as people think, what do you think that would do to her ego? To have essentially lead a coup and comitted almost-murder and gotten away with just a slap on the wrist? A hard slap maybe, but you're then demonstrated to be untouchable. They CAN'T fire you, even after something as egregious as this.
Oh she'll grit her teeth and bear it, put on her crocodile tears and say she's repented. But now she knows she's the real queen bee, and she can work an even longer con.

Graduate her into official manager? You mean give the clique leader a fucking promotion? You're arresting the rebel leader and handing her the royal crown. She'll have free reign to rule NijiEN officially, not just by whispering into someone's ear.
>have one of the top execs of the mainbranch check on all conflicts within the branch, as well as all decisions that affect the livers projects
You fool, those fuckers don't speak english. She can tell them whatever they want to hear, and she can rule with an iron fist. She'll have greater authority to keep everyone in line and as long as there are no major yabs, nobody will be checking her work. If anyone was capable of double checking what she was doing, they wouldn't need her in the first place.

>>69994694
They're chugging along but they're effectively also been fucked by talents going full menhera. Namely Yuko and Riro Ron (This episode is special. Niji can't even reach this level of unintentional comedy gold). Rin blew up on YT shorts but it didn't really translate into much

>>69994409
meds. now.

>>69994729

>>69994001
If Elira genuinely thinks that a mass exodus of Hanamori nepohires + clique supporters would save her, then she's beyond all hope. Maybe the males like Uki and Shu leaving would hurt the branch's reputation for a bit, but their superchats combined can only just get close enough to Pomu's, individually they both made less than Selen and Scarle. Hell, Uki made even less in supas than Nina, despite the fact that she graduated months ago. They really aren't anywhere near as important to the branch as they think they are, Anycolor could just as well keep Aia and Hex since they make more compared to their relative subcounts.
There's also the fact that if this plan were to go through, it'd probably be doing their JP masters a favor. Not only would they have gotten rid of the problem talents, but they could just as likely dissolve the EN branch saying "It ultimately lost us sponsorship/convention appearance opportunities and wasn't worth the risk to our brand anymore". And nobody in Hanamori or the clique is capable of making it on their own.

>>69994293
If this is true... that literally changes nothing. The PR fuckup is so bad that the only way to recover is to admit blame and apologise, even if it's not true. Trying to deny or argue it any more will look like the evil company is still spiteful towards its ex-employee. Continuing to ignore it will make people think evil company is too arrogant to apologise and want to continue to commit evil crimes behind close doors.

>>69994694
as a whole Idol still not that big, both in total fanbase and number of talents (12)
everything can change once IdolES launches, only time will tell how big the spanish side will be

>>69951490
Hololive deflection thread

I still believe NijiEN itself is on lockdown from doing anything uber-retarded like the blackscreen stream again, no fucking way Anycolor is still letting them scheme

>>69995087
Anon stop being retarded thinking SC earnings is the end of all
even with Pomu popularity she still one character to sell merch
having 5+ leaving is ALOT lost in merch sales regardless of their size

>>69995449
Did the lockdown start before or after the twitter artist posts and subsequent attempts at clapbacks?

>>69995087
You have to look at it from an investor/shareholder perspective. Your one hope for future growth is gutted of its biggest talents. That's grounds for a mass shareholder revolt. Should they be kicked to the kerb? Most definitely. But that's unlikely. That's the harsh reality of big business. JP overlords needs to put the foot down though and squash the a few of them though just to send a message of who is in charge.

>>69995449
Doki has a charity stream this week. There's no way Niji EN isn't planning another black screen video, and only Anycolor can stop them before they fuck that hornets' nest again.
....is she also gonna collab with Sayu this week?

>>69995512
If the rrats were true, then they don't need to kick the entire clique out, just make an example by outing the leader and putting a hard lease on the rest
Would be a great way to salvage their PR image too. They need to actually open the wallet and invest in this branch for proper management while convincing the investors this is all worth it in the long run
If not then fuck. Have fun with a slow death

>>69994888
>But now she knows she's the real queen bee

trust me, if youre the queen bee, even just socially, in a setting like that, you know. its obvious, especially to a narc thats obsessed with this stuff and has higher education. Im not a narc, but Ive been in a similar position. I didnt exploit it but I was still very aware of it.

>what do you think that would do to her ego?
oh shes mad as fuck. Ive no doubt.

>coup
against herself? Im confused. shes had overt absolute power inside the female side of the branch at least since sayu was terminated. If anything, sayus case made her brazen.

>murder
she wanted doki out of her hair, not dead. LK said Elira was actually really fucking scared when that started to happen, and it makes a lot of sense. Shes a narc, she does things for a reason. She can be cruel if it benefits her, but she isnt bloodthirsty just for the sake of it.

>Graduate her into official manager? You mean give the clique leader a fucking promotion?

she likely already got that position when they moved her to japan. They need to harness her influence and knowledge to run the branch, but make sure she cant pull corruption. remove the incentive for that and make sure oversight is established so she actually get fucked if she does it again.

>You fool, those fuckers don't speak english.
unlikely that nobody on the high exec levels speak english. They dont on the lower level of managers, youre right about that. I doubt that the board directly interacted with the EN branch on daily operations before this. The mainreason I said board is because they also hold stocks. they have so much interest in the companies survival that elira cant just suck that guys dick to be untouchable.

>nobody will be checking her work.
thats why you get someone to do it. nobody did so far, but that doesnt mean theyre incapable. At worst, they need to throw money at the problem to get someone.

appreciate your post, you make good points. AC needs to keep those problems in mind, but theyre not unsolvable.

dookiebird is a turd

>>69995637
I wasn't really paying close attention to any of that because I thought it was just NDF artists getting uppity, were any talents involved? qrd?

>>69990809
>If I could figure it out despite not even being a regular niji watcher, they can too.
I think the leaker's identity is fairly obvious if they happen to not be a larper.

>>69995087
This is the same frustration gamers run into when they bemoan moves by EA or Activision Blizzard. Remember the Goldman Sachs assessment about Nijisanji? The vast majority of investors know jack shit about the internal workings and just want to see profit and growth.

Anycolor has great profit margins on paper compared to Cover, but we know this is due to a miserable talent cut, hiring students for minimum wage, and cutting back on costs to the point that they don't even give organs play buttons.

Their growth has been in spamming waves and their promised inroads into overseas markets. A sudden, publicized loss of multiple talents through graduation would definitely raise questions, which is why the queue is really just arbitrary. Even if they were terminations of "troublemakers", Riku wouldn't be able to wave it off like he did when addressing this point in a past call.

>>69995924
And that's why Elira deserves more than two times the merch than both her genmates combined!:)

>>69996151
LK? yes, LK clearly wanted 4chan to know who they are, theyre probably actually pissed it isnt public knowledge yet. Im embarassed it took me days to figure it out in retrospect, but Im also retarded.
leaker-san is the other leaker, Im pretty sure I know who that is as well, but they were a lot more careful and didnt want to be found out, so I can only make the most likely guess based on hints and theres probably a small chance Im wrong on that.

if by larper you mean pretending to be someone else inside EN, thatd be possible, but theyre not trolls. While this cant be said for every post of course, those would be easy to fake, they both exist, and they both have insider information, which tracks with each others posts, even the implications do.

>>69996017
Oh buddy, pal, you missed some juicy shit
>pro-niji artist has a sook because people at con were gossiping in front of her
>Nijisanji organs come out with coordinated "we love artist" tweets
>suspected sock puppet with no history calls Vivi a bootlicker, Vivi claps back, sockpuppet deletes account, people applause
>Wilson responds to a heckler bringing up harassment in Niji "did you get that from your favorite dramatuber?", gets shit on in replies
>Uki bites the bait hard and goes mask-off full racist. He's always been anti-white racist but nobody watches his streams so it wasn't common knowledge, now it's on full display and getting covered by normie youtubers and even Japanese news sites

>>69987993
When did HimeHina join Brave?

>>69995857
>against herself? Im confused.
I meant how she wasn't "officially" a manager, but managed to convince the real managers to give her full control. She's manager in all BUT job title according to some rrats, making her manager would be making it official.

Fair enough on the rest of the points, I just think keeping someone that devious around no matter how tight the leash is a bad idea. By signaling she's untouchable it gives her time to plan longer schemes, just wait for the leash to change hands to someone who doesn't know english that well. Puppy dog eyes, creative translation, just like before. Eventually, with enough time and manipulation, she'll be the one holding the leash.

If they don't already have someone who can check her work, who are they gonna hire? Another underpaid Canadian intern? Possibly another secret nepohire of Elira? I have my doubts on that.
Megatron's biggest mistake is keeping Starscream at his side despite everything.