/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Here's the Aster bully DM leaks btw

Remember when people swore that Scarle was stealth suspended last week after she hearted the Kurosanji comment kek. These schizo rrats are really starting to lose credibility.

Can we just skip the bullying arc this time and free her already?

>entire branch gets reamed because of bullying
>keep doing it
are they truly this irredeemable?

>>69861531
Damage control by nijisanji after the Selen nuke, Zaion got terminated for similar reasons

>>69861572
It's actual narcissism combined with their clique mentality. It's why they're dumb enough to think or not care if anyone notices.

>>69861532
Nijisanji is rotten to the core

>>69861531
Going by leaks this morning niji doesn't want to make a martyr of any of its organs so they couldn't stealth suspend her over it.

Her being excluded from large collabs paints her in a really positive light.
Hope Scarlebros can enjoy their oshi in peace after she sheds those corpo shackles.

>>69861531
Dramabirds need their attention.

>>69861954
This. But I still won't watch any vtubers tainted by nijishit.

>>69861297
They're not stupid enough to continue this bully shit, right?

>>69862179
>Nijinignogs not being stupid
le mao

>>69861297
>definite proof that yu is part of the clique
That does explain a lot

>>69861531
Given what's happening, it was pretty reasonable to suspect that she's stealth suspended. At this point, anything niji does will be suspect. You can't blame it on people because niji's been doing nasty shit all along.

>>69861297
Now hol up a minute, if Scarley is not clique, why was she in the chibi stream?

>>69861572
Bullies don't learn until they are punished hard for it and called out in public. I thought that was already happening but clearly it has not gone far enough to give them pause as to what they are doing.

sorry but this is the one niji liver where i'll unironically say none of you watch streams.
she genuinely just minds her business and does her own thing most of the time. she's a nervous wreck and always has been, she's struggled from day 1 to collab, talked about it a bit live back when nina left, has basically never acted in a way that doesn't support this.
also don't try and push rrats about scarle with anything that contains fulgur, they're long time friends. stick with the aster bullying thing if you have to.

>>69861297
well gee 4chan sure makes a persuasive argument

>>69861297
...is she in her own fc? Or is she playing xiv solo?

>>69861297
Ayo! Who's Jimmy (Strongfist)?!

>>69861572
they let it happen with NijiKR and roa
it probably would have happened with ID too but they baneded together to hate their poor management more than they hated each other and even the ones who haven't bailed are still kinda checked out.
god knows what happened with virtuaReal and yumeno

>>69862431
Bullies don't learn even after being punished. They blame the person they bullied for getting them in trouble. They are incapable of taking responsibility for their own actions on a basic level.

>>69862317
Given it's at the same time as the discord leaks, she was likely pressured into it.

>>69862466
>don't try and push rrats about scarle with anything that contains fulgur, they're long time friends.
Pomu literally ended her friendship with Elira

>>69861642
>scarle going quiet means she’s stealth suspended
>scarle not going quiet means Niji is damage controlling
How do you win against rrats?

They can’t drop her because it would be another martyr so they are ghosting the shit out of her.

In their sick mind “can’t be blamed of having done something when you did nothing”. Shit people don’t magically learn their lession if they don’t have consequences.

>>69862466
Dramafags don't know that Scarle rarely ever collabed with anyone and mostly keeps to herself. The Aster collab was kind of sus but other than that it's usual business.

>>69862466
Other members intentionally ignore her getting bullied by Aster. This just provides she's also excluded from collabs.

>>69861297
Holy fuck, I gotta dig into this. But if true, another yab on the way.

>>69862514
Pretty sure she's just on the free trial and can't join FCs because of that

>>69861297
On one hand, Scarle has social anxiety which is why she's always alone. On the other hand, there's a chance of bullying. Either way, if it's not a larp, the leaker said they handed in their 2 weeks "four months ago". So even if she wants out, the queue, and clique, Israel.

Are you guys fucking serious? If Scarle did an EX Raid in FFXIV she'd fucking kill herself after the stream

>>69862584
In that case might as well fire Enna and be done with it. But that would be like Niji management tapping out going "ok you win" and they want to be stubborn because they think they are the big boys here with their minimum wage salary. They're like underage or college age discord or reddit mods given a drop of power abusing the fuck out of it.

>>69862706
It's not rrats if Nijisanji self-reports.

>>69862466
this. watch any iluna collab and notice how quiet she is. the more people there are, the more she shuts down (relatable desu)

>>69862607
The leaker also mentioned that livers will gang up and pressure people to do "make-up" streams if they're not getting along, the Aster/Scarle forced collab was just the most obvious one.

>>69862663
have you already lost track of your scarle rrats and drama?
>>69862721
the aster thing was mega sus imo but yeah she just sits there, farms her chat, builds stuff, gets interested in random hobbies and cooks sometimes.
>>69862747
i fucking promise you one thing regarding bullying in nijisanji anon. this hag and her pet retard have no clue what's going on with scarle.

>>69862925
That's because she's with the bullies anon... She doesn't want to interact with them if possible.

>>69861297
I am really starting to get the feeling, that this ''Niji Family'' PR move is going to epically backfire.

>>69863020
>have you already lost track of your scarle rrats and drama?
If Pomu can end her friendship with Elira because of the bullshit in NijiEN, Scarle can end her friendship with Fulgur.

>>69861531
So does Niji read the board or not?
Get your story straight.
They have to damage control their damage control since after burning their goodwill anything could be real.

>>69863028
fucking who? aia? you don't even know who she is most likely. the niji thread forgets who she is half the time. ren and maria? uhh ok. kyo? pretty unlikely.
>>69863163
they were still behind the scenes besties not even 2 weeks ago you retard. the fucking state of rrats. i'm literally telling you your rrats for scarle look worse if you involve him and your response is "cool thanks lets do it anyway"

>>69863502
Kyo already got daph to try to character assassinate doki, he can't be trusted.

>>69862925
>Proof of bullying and harassment all over the net.
>Nijifags already blaming her for the ghosting, “she’s shy”.
>Not in the guild, which would not force her to interact, would give her a private space to talk, and avoid recruiting harrassment.

That’s how we all missed Zaion and Selen boys, these nijifags putting ham on out eyes with their narrative.

the more I read about nijishit the more disgusted I am.

Aia is a bully to my cock

>>69861297
FCs in FFXIV are pretty much only for buffs or e-whorehouses, literally no reason to be in a dead FC that doesn't even have buffs.

>>69861531
They are literally monitoring those threads.

>>69862852
I think the best situation is if the bullies stay and everyone else leaves. The company hasn't done anything to help them during this time so it's not worth sticking with them. They should take what's left of their audiences and go indie. Four good reasons to do so:
>they would have public support
Public opinion has labeled the company as evil. Escaping them would be met with sympathy. With all eyes on this drama it's a great time to boost your viewership. Whereas sticking around is just going to cost you more and more.
>they already have the necessary skills to make it as an independent
Most of them already were independent streamers to begin with. Plus, management hasn't been helpful, so they have already been doing the behind-the-scenes stuff themselves.
>it would increase their income
Even hiring a competent manager would cost way less money than Anycolor takes from them.
>way less stress
There is no fear of anyone cancelling your projects. There is no fear of being bullied, because you can just block them since you aren't stuck in the same company. There is no concern for japanese game permission autism. You can do what you want, when you want, how you want and with whoever you want.

>>69861531
>doesn't show up to stream after hearting
>radio silence except for homo PL announcement saying that she was taking a break from the internet and going to stay at her parents
>standard niji stealth suspension bullshit
>blowing up on social media
>Suddenly next day back to normal as if nothing happened

Nothing to see here sis, I'm sure that wasn't JP management stepping in after seeing the abominable PR shitshow that was going down.

>>69863694
Elira is also the owner of the discord server they use for communication. Can you imagine that sweaty abuser just cleaning the logs and doing shady shit to obscure what is actually being communicated. And you have to operate there for ''work''.

I would fucking run.

>>69863686
maybe, maybe not. he's already made vague comments about not liking things about management (but also vtuber culture as a whole cause he's kind of a trend hopper) so he's not really a bootlicker. might just be a bad guy.
>>69863694
if you're so focused on insertcompanyname vs niji you can't see people sitting here saying the bullying seems real you're just looking at the wrong members (except aster that one's probably legit, he's always had a bad attitude) then idk what to tell you.

>>69864254
Yeah, that was fucking weird.
>PL announcement saying that she was taking a break from the internet and going to stay at her parents
>Suddenly next day back to normal as if nothing happened

>>69861297
YAB

>>69864232
NTA but I pretty much agree with everything you replied. That is the only sane path to take, let the clique have Nijisanji and let the talents move on from the toxicity.

>>69864254
Do not forget, the official notice to the livers after the Selen drama was, ''Get back to streaming asap''. They need to mitigate how bad all of this looks. That is also why they've had to spread out the graduations. Could you imagine if 5-6 people leave at the same time? That is some serious PR stink.

>>69861297

>>69864393
I once took a month off to live in Japan. Realistically, if we know she's in Tokyo, how long would it take for me to find her? I suppose she probably spends a lot of time as a meet. Are niji offices well known?

>Be accused of bullying
>Keep bullying people

Is nijiEN that retarded?

>>69861297
its like you retards dont watch her. She likes being comfy alone with her chat.
Just look how all of op's screenshots have zero red bar at the bottom of the thumbnails because they dont fucking watch her

>>69864746
They tried but people are calling out their bullshit now.

>>69864254
or using reality because i actually like her and i'm not just using her for drama
>hearts the comment either genuinely or through misclick
>gets a ton of attention and drama and we know they're /here/ so you doesn't want to stream
>even niji viewers question whether tweets are legit so she has a friend's non-corpo account tweet out
>calms down a bit and streams again.
can you keep shitting on elira, vox, aster and do your clique rrats instead of stirring shit up for one of the few livers that are actually clean?

>>69864855
So true sister

>>69861902
Qrd? Seen so many threads and replies about it, but nothing tangible about their content.

>>69864738
Have no idea. I assume she rarely leaves her apartment, or maybe she has a house - since she comes from money. You are better off buying her information on the dark web, you could even look up yourself while you are at it. Big companies are all spying on us, and then they get their data leaked.

>>69861297
I love my nijifamily

>>69864855
>or through misclick
cope sis

>>69864822
OP here, don't be a retard, I used incognito on all my screenshots to keep impartiality.

Shy people eventually grow comfortable when spending enough time with other people. This has not happened. Like Zaion, Scarle is likely part of the out-group.

>>69865339
I have an idea of what she looks like. And no gaijin just "buys a house" in Tokyo. Least not last time I was there. Things change. If I knew where niji offices are I could hang out at a train station and wait. I blend in.
t. Chink.

*sigh*
you guys are looking to deep into this, there is no truth
-LK

>>69862706
The only winning move is not to play.
You should know this.

>>69864855
Yeah sis she definitely just misclicked the kurosanji comment LMAOOOOOOO COPE HARDER

>>69865748
Fuck off enna. Actually, you and Millie could come 4 provinces over and I'll show you a good time.

>>69865683
Schizophrenicanon chill...
Elira isn't even that much of a bad guy

>>69861297
So Aster was trying to emotionally manipulate her, to fuck her / vet her for the clique, but she resisted the sexpesting and now she is a target.

Grim shit, how do Sisters sleep at night

>>69865561
>>69865844
>management can't be trusted
>agreement that plenty of livers of shitty and part of the problem
"oh no sis! you proposed there was a slight possibility this one specific thing was actually an accident, i suddenly can't read the rest of the post"
ok. by the way? scarle's audience is male, not full of sisters

>>69861572
>bullying
It's called enforcing normalcy and it's good.

>>69861297
Guys, I also play MMOs all alone.
Am I being bullied?

>>69866155
>Beatings will continue until morale improves.

>>69866155
>>69866227
Elira, Millie... wrong tab...

>>69866158
Hi sister. Slow night, huh?

>>69866158
Do you have a friend group that plays on the same server you are on but haven't invited you to their guild?

>>69866155
It's called discipline. You better fall in line or you're toast.

>>69865952
Sis, the japs don't give a shit what foreigners do to other foreigners as long as locals don't get harmed. Take a walk through ikebukuro or ropongi and see how many Cambodian owned bars there are. They will roofie gaijins and Rob them blind. Think they'll care what one leaf does to another? Shit, the public loved the one hostess who stabbed her host bf out of jealousy cause she was cute.

>>69866158
Doesn't it only take 1 button to invite someone to the guild?
Huh, I wonder why they haven't done that...

>>69866451
I intentionally hide my online status and go to other servers on purpose. I also just do the starting areas over and over.

Why can’t you just leave the girl alone

>>69866663
Are you in their guild? You might just be a loner then.

>>69866111
I don't read ESL sister posts COPE LMAO

>>69866700
She is getting left alone... by everyone in Njisanji kek

>>69866700
Yeah Aster, leave the girl alone! She does not want to fuck you for a clique-spot.

>>69866809
You don’t even know anything about her

>>69866821
*Sigh
I will have my pound

>>69862706
That's the fun part, you don't.

>>69865683
https://www.anycolor.co.jp/en/about

>>69861297
Calling it, they'll add her to the FC when they see this.

>>69862706
The rrats always win. It's been foretold.

>>69862466
If she and fulgur are such great friends, why hasn't she been playing with him? Hmmm...

>>69867506
they're close enough that she voiced in his debut and asked him to post on her behalf 10 days ago.
her angle is that she's a dumb, vaguely parasocial latina with big tits and reliable chat interaction, but if you're pushing for more males on stream outside of her already rare collabs feel free to drop by and tell her that

>>69861531
kek they can't afford to suspend anyone right now, but even with damage control, the livers like Uki still fucked up, cope harder faggot.

>>69862706
rrats are rrats because rrats cannot be disproven.

>>69862706
She was stealth suspended for liking kurosanji comment and then they backpedalled seeing the backlash from it to try and damage control. It's pretty simple really if you have a brain little sister.

Wasn't there supposed to be a big drop today? Did anything happen?

>>69866111
sigh... aster pls stop, its not helping...

>>69861297
MAKE SIREN A PVP SERVER, YOSHI PEE. I WANT TO FIGHT THEM. NOW. I HAVE A CHARACTER ON THEM. TIME TO PURGE NIJISANJI!

>>69869394
Judging from how fast the board is, no, not today.

>>69869394
Waiting till Monday
If there's no big drop, then there won't be anything till next month

>>69861297
that's fucked up and yes people forget that the newest faggot is an elira nepo
the other nepo from wilson's wave jumped ship and leaked things

>>69869394
why would something happen on the weekend retard
the black stream was on a monday

>>69869394
There was a drop today. Leaker answered questions in thread. Here is a screen of some of it.

>>69862584
1 single punishment can't teach them, it takes getting bullied themselves for a long period of time for them to understand.

>>69867173
They must have some blank offices though. You can't just say this is HQ and not have menheras just sitting waiting for kuzuha

>>69861297
Schizo Anon from the GURRAT threads, yo, congrats in compiling another one LOL. Having fun?

>>69862706
By not empowering them through self-reporting. Everyone dismissed schizos but then you all had the stupid idea to confirm various rrats. If you had a brain, you would've foresaw going past the point of no return. Congrats NijiEN, you played yourselves

>>69871802
S-sugoi

I don't get why Niji doesn't just fire the entire clique
It would genuinely be a good PR move because fucking everyone knows at this point

>>69871802
It's a good larp ngl
But it's nothing there that was added that wasn't already known

>>69861572
They weren't doing it for rational reasons to begin with. They're just broken like that. Its like asking "why do pitbulls eat babies if it will get them put down?"

>>69872686
It would be a bad look if they fired essentially everyone save for 1 or 2 people.

>>69861531
Based gay black woman response.

>>69873008
More like 4, you know who

>>69871802
>leaker, whether real or larp, confirmed the Scarle bullying
Sasuga

>>69872686
Because firing like 4 people and confirming systematic bullying looks terrible and would completely sink them overnight?
Even if they replace them and "we promise we'll do better, gaijin-tachi" it won't save them from the absolute PR slaughter.

At best they might do it slowly over a couple of years. If the clique graduate, you know why.

>>69872686
>Scarle becomes the daisenpai of nijien after the ENTIRE branch gets razed

>>69874219
I would akasupa if she survived this whole cluster fuck

>>69862466
Nice cope. She will graduate next.

>>69871802
Did no one ask this faggot what the bullying pertains too? So is it really Elira + Ethyria?

>>69872686
Because it looks AWFUL to the shareholders, unironically.
>"Oh you fired...half the branch? Why?"
>"Because they commandeered management of the branch and ran themselves, creating a hostile workplace that could easily get the company sued?" Note: The odds of success or even settling are not important here; shareholders will exclusively focus on the fact that there was a real risk AT ALL because their entire job is risk assessment.
>"It sounds like you're bad at managing a company, then."
>"It also sounds like you burned all goodwill on overseas expansion and drove yourself out of the foreign markets you promised us profits with."
>[Stock goes hard into the red as investors panic sell]

>>69875639
It refers to the constant harassment and favouritism
Elira and co. + Selen have already said this in the tweets and black screen video

>>69862706
Both can be true, you know.
She was stealth suspended for liking the kurosanji post, and was gonna be suspended for 30+ days and then terminated for it.
But Niji management panicked when we noticed her absence after less than 12 hours, and made sure that they knew we had noticed; and they either cancelled or postponed their plan to Zaion her. She's probably still gonna get fired, and her firing might or might not still have a month suspension preceding it; they just decided not to do it just yet.

Oh, and Fulgur is probably gonna get sacked for going on his PL to tell people that she was okay.

>>69875809
Yeah but what kind of harassment? Like did they call her fat or something? Or said she isn't as good of a singer? That's what I wanna know

>>69875849
>Oh, and Fulgur is probably gonna get sacked for going on his PL to tell people that she was okay.
Meanwhile Luca keeps his job despite a blatant NDA breach.

>>69861531
Nijisanji can't afford to look guilty with any more stealth suspensions but the question is whether they can prevent more NijiEN livers from leaving.

>>69875458
She's going to have to join the queue LOL

>>69876147
If the queue is real then it seems like they can, at least temporarily. Of course, that only lasts as long as the contracts last, so they'll have to be allowed to leave eventually. Right now they seem to be trying to manage the optics of what is a complete shitshow behind the scenes.

*sigh*
Do we need to go over this again Scarle

>>69876773
If I've been reading the threads right it takes at least as long as Selen had when she had her spats with management last spring. She was probably already in the graduation queue, and the HR document yab cunt-punted her right out of the queue and the office

>>69876773
There is a non-zero chance we see a walkout if the queue doesn't fix itself soon.
Most of these people are not in Japan, so Anycolor cannot reasonably attack them on Japanese turf, meaning they're going to be subject to each liver's local labor regulations. That is a battle that Anycolor cannot afford to engage in.
If I'm Riku, I'm appeasing each talent with whatever they want, short of terminating other talents, to drive talent retention up as high as possible.
>But why don't they just sue on Japanese turf
Because most of the livers don't have any assets in Japan, so Japan can't enforce judgement without getting a foreign jurisdiction involved, who will have their own questions and legal process. The worst Anycolor can do is withold their last month's pay, and possibly make it extremely annoying for the liver to ever visit Japan again.
>Why haven't they done this yet if they're able to?
They may not know they're reasonably able to. I'd wager most livers have not lawyered up even though that's the smartest thing you could do right now.
The culture of the company has been very obviously pressuring the talent into thinking they're worthless without Nijisanji, and that they'd go right back to being 2views if they left. There are now multiple cases showing that to be false, so expect that perception to erode slowly over time.

>>69862706
We always win

>>69869394
Anything "leakers" have posted after the Elira video is pure LARP and shouldn't be taken seriously. Too many tourists like >>69871802
trying to be Nostradamus and saying things we already know.

>>69866155
>It's called enforcing normalcy and it's good.
Only when men do it and they do it physically, anon.

>Nijifamily

>>69861572
They only stop when their behavior is exposed and emotionally feel repercussions. Nijisanji is hiding their behavior so it's not going to stop. The entire mentality of bullying is getting away with it.

You guys are just desperate for more drama

>>69861297
chaos will reign and we will prevail.
but on serious note.
she dont collab because she want more interaction to her chat compared to other people thats why she rarely collab unless its sponsor (selen Nikke collab), gen event (kyo graduation, iluna 1st year etc), or forced to (aster)

>>69880319
nijis just make it easy

>>69861297
Yeah, the forced collab really soured her opinion of the 'family'.
She knows what's up.
She will follow the instructions of the 'management', because this her job and they are her superiors.
But it's good she is maintaining her distance from the clique. She might have less promotions and collabs, but atleast she doesn't lapdog like Vivi.

>>69880319
We already have it laid out for us. March is Riku groveling in front of investors video. March 1 will have minimum 1 leaver, possible 2 leavers 1 male and 1 female, or 3 a bunch of terminations to appease investors.
April has a nuclear yab once an NDA finishes. Niji stock price will continue to trend down, the smarter people in the company knows harder days ahead, but is Niji REALLY a family?

>>69880945
The fucking dramafags are so ready to expose shit when that NDA expires.

>>69861297
I really wish people would format these so non-schizos could read them.

>>69881191
Reads like a 4chan thread. Maybe it's a good thing everyone else can't follow along.

>>69866155
your standards for normalcy are completely fucked sister

>>69881191
???

>>69864254
>Nothing to see here sis, I'm sure that wasn't JP management stepping in after seeing the abominable PR shitshow that was going down.
very plausible after the aster leaks. right after it happened she abruptly ended the stream and later on had a collab with aster. like holy fucking shit.

>>69880945
They should just fire the fucking clique and fold the branch, let anyone who wants to stay join JP, everyone who wants to leave can walk after signing a new NDA.

>>69875984
imagine if fulgur gets sacked and uki stays kek

Anycolor is well & truly cooked. Good riddance, feel sorry for their fans but this clique deserves to get bullied off of the internet forever.

>>69875920
"You're not marketable enough" and "You're nothing special" are the two I remember from Doki.

>>69882335
They're probably fearful of what suddenly firing a few livers will do to their stock price.

>>69882335
desu they should take the L and relinquish rights to all characters that would survive purge. regardless if they choose to stick around and rebuild nijien or not and create a path for the rest to "buy out" their persona or something. this is something that would earn a lot of goodwill from fans and people watching the situation.

>>69882335
Folding the entire branch will absolutely tank their stock value, even moreso than what has already gone down

The worst part:
>Scarle isn't skilled enough to get into Hololive
>Scarle isn't popular enough to get Vshojo's red carpet treatment
>Fishman's autism of pivoting into more 'traditional vtubing' in new gens will probably push him and the other interviewers to less controversial options
What's left, realistically?
Go indie and become a 2 view?
Join up with a 2 view corp so she at least doesn't have to swallow all the expenses alone?
Or will she just retire forever?

Forbidden option: Eternal vtweeter

>>69861572
yes they are a cancerous bunch

>>69882697
The stock will to continue to bleed anyway, this isn't something that's going to just go away in the next couple months. Rip off the band aid and get rid of the bad actors, the whole company will continue to appear tainted unless they clean house. But maybe you can win back some public favor and appease some investors if you act like your taking back control from a batch of bad apples. As it stands they are dead in the water.

>>69862583
the funniest part is that ID was formed with a management that often hired friends from their cosplay clique and they still never reach this level of bullshit.
all things considered, ID probably would never have even formed a bad clique that could take control because their management was fair to all of them regardless of being part of their clique or not.
ID came together to hate upper management for shafting them and leaving them for dead but they often talked favorably about their staff, even the livers werent directly connected to the cosplay clique

>>69883005
She can just go indie?

>>69871989
Unless they're a narcissist, and then it's WHY IS EVERYONE SO JEALOUS THAT THEY HAVE TO PICK ON ME!?

>>69883115
2 View indie is just delayed graduation

>>69862466
>Dramafag doesn't know jack shit
you're suprised?

>>69883303
i doubt she be 2 view most her regular agree to follow her regardless where she going to be.

>>69883005
Going indie is the only real option.

>>69883303
>>69883005
Scarle has low viewership but is the current bread winner for nijien, and by a huge margin.

If she goes indie, she will more than fine.

>>69883303
Her PL got a pretty sizeable jump of followers when /vt/ was trying to figure out where the hell she went.
She might lose some if she goes back to her old channel like the /choc/ viewership, but she's still one of the most superchatted livers in NijiEN right now.

>>69880319
*sigh*

>>69883758
wowza
those she's got some dedicated piggies

>>69883115
Financially the worst decision.
Right now, despite all the controversy, she is making significantly more money.
Also if the 'leaker' is to be believed, forcefully quitting will have severe financial impact and implications.
I don't believe she has applied for the graduation queue either, cause in a year( queue wait time), will she be even popular enough to make the same as an indie and maintain the lifestyle she is used to?

>>69883992
yeah u can say that.
its help also that all the member know each other (like on call most of the time)

If Scarle had a strong spine she would go to Riku and use her financial power to get the control of nijien. Alas she's too nice

>>69884248
Some people just don't want to be in charge of that shit, which is understandable.

>>69884248
Why would you willingly put yourself under the sword of damocles AFTER the sword starts falling?

>>69884674
To remove the people that bullied me.

>>69884810
Weak larp

>>69884942
Ok, when I say "the people that bullied me" I am not implying or suggesting that I am Scarle, I am explaining why I would do that if I were her.

>>69884674
>He believes in the sword of Damocles bullshit
Scarle has nothing to lose in that situation cause she could always shift blame and run away with the money, like anyone in a position of power that has any modicum of sense does when things go bad for their company.

>>69861297
The twitter account that was breaking containment got banned so I don't think this image will leak but I kinda want it to so that the clique panics and fucks up even more ngl

>>69861572
It's never going to stop because there appears to have been no punishment or reprimand given to any of the people responsible. The people who did this, whether it's Elira & her goons or some faceless manager group, still appear to be in charge of ruling EN.

If they're not going to get punished for chasing off the top talent and abusing one of the biggest stars to the point of suicide, then they're never going to get punished at all.

Which means they have a free hand to do literally anything they want to anyone they want in that branch. We should expect bullying incidents and infighting to get worse, not better.

>>69868081
>latina
A default menhera until proven otherwise.

>>69861531
believe me guys shes suspended right now the one whos live is actually a management stand-in.

>>69885041
>if I were her
that's the definition of larp
I never said you were Scarle either.
I said it's weak because it doesn't sound like something she could or would do and there is no logical sense behind it.

>>69885550
It'll probably still leak out somehow, but yeah, it probably won't reach the clique unless they're /here/.

>>69886239
>Unless they're /here/
In that case we can confidently assume that they have been seething about it for 2 weeks straight.

>>69885656
Bingo.
hell the biggest takeaway from the leaker earlier today was that if they weren't larping then elira enna millie and reimu are actually getting HELPED to continue as they are being trained by legal and pr experts to manage themselves better.
Elira and her clique are leaving this controversy more powerful within their group than ever before. Now everyone knows they can push someone to suicide and absolutely nobody will do a thing about it.

qrd

>>69883005
>Scarle isn't popular enough to get Vshojo's red carpet treatment
>half latino
pink woman will save her

>>69886469
scarle not in FF14 niji guild.

>>69886469
She is playing an MMO. MMOs have guilds. People here found out she's not in the Nijisanji guild. Opinion pieces starts appearing.

>>69883758
Boring. I guess the bleeding stopped then?

>>69871802
>larping faggot just confirms a bunch of rrats anons already spam
>omg this is it guys
I fucking hate you retards

>>69886239
>unless they're /here/.
>unless
Nigger they spend more time here than you or me or anyone else. Reimu is in the clique.

>>69886239
If nothing else is true... if ABSOLUTELY NONE OF THE RRATS ARE TRUE, anon... The one thing that is, is that they are /here/. Maybe not right this second, but at least a few of them likely browse often and all/nearly all know of here and likely visit periodically.

>>69861297
inb4 they announce an FFXIV collab with Scarle, because of this thread.

>>69886669
shes just going to tell them to fuck off, Im pretty sure they cant force this stuff anymore.

>>69886433
> trained by legal and pr experts to manage themselves better.
I wouldn't read that from what was said.
"Coaching" by PR/legal could just as easily be them getting dressed down for acting like retards and putting the brand in danger, and how to handle their inevitable return.
Those four are going to be taking the bulk of the heat once they start streaming again. Vox will be fine because his audience is mostly NDF anyway, but Elira especially will be taking a constant barrage from betrayed Familira, and the other three won't exactly be in good graces with what few fans are willing to stick around for a stream or two.
Their careers are done.

>>69886669
Please let this fucking be true, because it would be the funniest shit to see "this collab only happened because they saw on 4chan that Scarle wasn't in the NijiEN FF-XIV Clan" spammed on the VODs.

>>69886534
>>69886552
Theres like 20 niggas in NijiEN if the limit is 12 or whatever, this makes sense.
If the limit is more...well idk

>>69886725
They did with Aster's collab. They can peer pressure/bully her into another one if they really want to.

>>69886740
>Those four are going to be taking the bulk of the heat once they start streaming again
Millie already streams in members only. She is going to ease into public gradually in a few weeks or months when things die down.
I am guessing Elira and others also plan on doing the same.

>>69871802
Incredible. This retard managed to say everything that was already known, or was speculated and didn't come up with a single new information. Confirmation bias is terrifying.

>>69866663
its kind of bleak but if its cozy to you that's all that matters - but you might want to try reaching out to others every once in a while

>>69887245
It'll be sooner than months, for sure. So long as no one does anything fucking stupid.

>>69886824
"anymore" being the operative word here.

>>69886779
FFXIV guilds can reach 100

>>69875849
The leaker mentioned Fulgur was not reprimanded, because he asked management beforehand. The only initiative he took was to use his PL, because official accounts have lost all credibility with all the skinwalking.

The leaker also stated that Scarle was reprimanded, but not actioned against. No suspension. He quite literally stated that "they can't make martyrs out of livers right now".

>>69886534

She should make her own FC and invite all the fans.

>>69887363
Yeah pretty sure they are going to pretend like nothing ever happened after that shit ass Singapore concert event.
No hate to people who are there and can enjoy the concert as it is. I hope you people get your money's worth unless it's canceled

>>69887896
WELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
she would but ofc managment said no.

>>69887921
I can't really find it in me to be the bigger person hope it goes well, but I'd rather they get to go back to the status quo if the alternative is trying to drag Doki down again.

>>69884810
>>69886114
Also to add, to reach Riku or jp mgmt. you would have to be well versed in jp( to explain your grievances) and go over the bridge that is Elira.
Being successful or popular would not give you an edge, it didn't in Selen's case. Seems like Elira handles most of the inter -branch comms.
Also the power harassment is so ingrained in jp corpo culture, that even if you manage to reach out to them, they are probably going to side with Elira.
See: recent events.

Scarle's always been a lone wolf, she dislikes human interaction, she'll be fine.

>>69888340
Have you considered she's a lone wolf because she's been bullied since joining?

>>69861572
they're women anon

>>69887757
>The leaker also stated that Scarle was reprimanded, but not actioned against. No suspension. He quite literally stated that "they can't make martyrs out of livers right now".

nta, but true, however, based on how the leaker phrases things in general, this does not mean Scarle wasnt suspended by EN management. its just that Scarle missing two streams and there being no word caused another uproar, just after the Aster thing had happened a while before and right at the time as JP management was swooping in cause of the Selen related fails. So it makes a lot of sense to assume that suspension was removed. niji just couldnt afford it and also, Scarle is a top earner, she definitely isnt someone they want to piss off more or lose in the current climate.

>>69888379
I mean she gets raided by Rosemi, and Nina before quitting, so not everyone dislikes her, but she has stated she simply hates human interaction so she does her thing alone.

>>69888204
If the leaker is to be believed
These livers seem to be upset because of canceled sponsors and decreased revenue while simultaneously being jealous of Doki's success; they blame her for all of it. Some livers don't consider what happened as bullying because there was no physical violence involved.
Kyo(recently graduated liver) was eager enough to suggest using influencer friends to smear her name.
There were also talks of weaponizing the dox site.
All in all these clique and clique-adjacent livers seem to be really petty people.

>>69888730
I mean, yeah.
Doki was winning.
Imagine losing, so you cheat, then you lose ANYWAY despite cheating.
Of course you'd be seething. It's uncontestable proof that you're a shitter if you need to cheat just to even have a chance, and STILL lose.

>>69888634
but the irony also that scarle was working in medical
she was working as a nurse in school district before.

>>69861297
thank god she made friends with holos during that gta vcr thing

>>69888730
Just how stupid would you have to be at this point to poke that bear? Public opinion is skewed so sharply in Doki's favor that anything sort of literal heaps of full context screenshots proving she was outright lying is going to get people blasted. It doesn't matter who does it. notKyo would have to be extra retarded because now he doesn't have the backing of Niji to help him if he goes off the deep end.

>>69864729
Never followed the drama so I never got the sigh meme. If this is real this guy is fucking unhinged.

>>69888895
Yes, it's been confirmed real >>69861380

>>69888826
Indeed. I too work in the medical field and I despise human interaction, I'm just as authentic as Elira.

>>69888890
>because now he doesn't have the backing of Niji to help him if he goes off the deep end.
Pretty sure he's American, so he'd cook if he got caught.
Forcing somebody to go from Japan to Canada is a stretch, but USA to Canada is a phone call and a couple of hours in a van.

>>69888730
>>69888994
very hard to believe that it was kyo, considering his graduation stream. I think he has beef with enna and elira, at least nowadays, we also know that that influencer person was a) radioactive and b) also had other lines of contact to niji. She did however seem to not have any actual info, which made her seem like a complete schizo, because she was just spouting very easily disprovable bs.
I also think hes the most likely candidate to be LK, based on some things LK said.

>>69888890
>Just how stupid would you have to be at this point to poke that bear?
They definitely believe the backlash was unwarranted and blown out of proportion; that their organization was 'mischaracterized' by these dramatubers.
They wanted to have the last word in.

>>69862466
Maybe she's a nervous wreck because of a toxic work environment

>>69889354
Isn't 39iq long time friends with notKyo.
Make too much sense to be him.

>>69889801
as I said, not the only person in or close to niji that are friends with 39iq and also, why would he want to help niji.

>>69889935
It's just a rrat and I could be completely wrong but
Aren't graduation streams supposed to be big events and attract even tourists.
The controversy not only overshadowed that but also skewed opinion against Niji.
Maybe he wanted to mitigate that before his last cash out.

>>69862179
They don't think it's bullying. If it were bullying, they would be bad people, but they're not straight white men.

>>69890214
oh I do think its possible that he tricked 39iq into actually yapping, but if anything, it kept the controversy alive and not to nijis benefit, and then he first trapped Enna and then roasted Elira during his graduation stream in ways that seem to be very pro gurrat.
are you familiar with kyo? I am not, beyond the part he played the last few weeks. if you are, do you know if theres any connection between him and a rose? LK said follow the rose, and he mentioned march, people assumed possible related to rosemi, but apparently not, march is which when notKyo is supposed to debut and Im wondering if hes going to drop proof that he was LK to ride the wave. it would make him the first and most important (public) leaker in this, its bound to help his numbers...

>>69890747
nvm, I figured out who LK is. No idea what to do with it though.

>>69890747
Daph had not yet gone on the offensive. Her offline chat was leaked, and the whole operation was prematurely kneecapped.

>>69861297
how do we save her she seems sweet from the few streams i have watched

>>69890747
Dude. Not-Kyo was shilling and praising Finana's song getting to 1 mil just a couple of hours ago. He is not a disgruntled ex-employee, he is an opportunist and part of the crybullies.

>>69889354
I feel like there's tension between Enna and Kyo. I watched the chibi stream with Scarle and the graduation stream. I can't really put my finger on what makes me think that, just feelings I got. You know when there's tension between two people but one of them don't want to fight so they kind of push it under the rug and it grows to resentment or whatever

>>69862706
well you get a leaker get as close to the truth as possible.

>>69891430
Kyo realized he was nothing special to Enna and only a mere boytoy and they had a falling out

>>69861572
Anon
You don't get it
They hired fucking PR coaches for the livers, and the "best thing" they wanted them to do was to "return to streaming normally".
They don't want to "fix" any of this shit.
They just want to keep the ship going for as long as they can and get as much money off the KPop sisters as they reasonably can with shitty merch spams.
They will squeeze the branch and the livers for every single fucking drop of value they can, and once they stop being profitable? Just merge 'em.

>>69864232
Not to mention, Sayu already leaked a huge amount of shit in her manifesto, and STILL cut down the pages because of her lawyer.
Her NDA is coming up soon. We'll see an entirely new wave of info coming out, which the new graduates can easily ride with.

>>69861572
Nijisanji is a cancerous brand that only attracts subhumans, the fans, management, and talents all are the vilest scum of human society.
All of them deserves each other.

>>69891643
I doubt she will say anything. She seems very comfortable where she is right now.

>>69861297
also she's been doing a shitton of stuff even more than she usually did

>>69886740
> and how to handle their inevitable return
isn't that the whole problem? that they aren't being fired outright?

>>69886528
>Griftershoujo.
>Picking up someone not from their chlique or someone susidal to get pity points.

>>69891643
I highly doubt it will be Sayu. She was vindicated in a lot of peoples' eyes recently and has been seeing greater success due to that, so I don't think she'd throw herself back into Niji drama. It's more likely to be a manager or some vendor's NDA.

>>69891818
Sayu is probably done with it until she actually does have to say something.

>>69861531
She literally said that she was gonna take a break then she made a stream a few hours later after people caught up.

>>69891899
if u mean by break u mean she going to japan alone ?
yea i guess u can think that.

>>69861380
Holy fuck what an emotionally abusive little bitch. Male vtubers were a mistake.

>>69891430
can you by chance link the parts in the graduation stream where he roasts enna and elira? I just saw a clip or sth like days ago. Im miserable with technology so I cant find it myself because Im retarded.

>>69871802
> expressing solidarity or coming to the defense of Zaion is considered verboten
then what are these? -
https://streamable.com/5bpz2u
https://streamable.com/wqj7i6
https://streamable.com/lrpi6w

>>69891430
i mean if u mean scarle not talk much
thats would make sense in general of her being a anxiety mess. but it would make sense of rrat scarle try distance herself from enna.

>>69891899
My guess is she wanted to stream and mgmt. didn't let her. Hence, the mental health bs reason after she missed the streams. I mean if you were feeling stressed to stream, surely you would make a tweet or pin msg in chat before the streams.
When mgmt. saw the people's uproar, they let her stream like nothing happened.

>>69891746
Riku literally cannot afford to fire anybody right now, no matter how much they deserve it. If he fires people, no matter how justified, he'll be pincer'd by the EN fanbase (who want justice for Selen and the management's head on pikes) and the shareholders (who will want to know why Riku allowed incompetent management to get overrun by some literal who that had no work experience outside of "shitposted on Tumblr then Twitter").
Remember, Anycolor's stock is sold on the promises of foreign expansion, and EN is the last bastion of that promise. If Riku fires a chunk of the branch for doing shit that absolutely should've been tardwrangled, the shareholders will question both his ability to lead and the viability of the branch's ability to expand. And if enough start questioning, the stock goes in freefall and Riku's left holding the bag: He'll have lost money on the IPO rather than gained it.
There's also to consider that terminating the clique would be admitting that shit got fucked up to the public. Expansion would be COMPLETELY dead. No new talents, and most old talents would end up terminated, graduated, or a 2view within a year.
By the same token, NOT terminating them could also be dangerous, but it is a risk rather than a guarantee. Riku can placate the shareholders with promises of restructuring and implementing stronger management. While the general public won't forgive, he can shore up (read: tell the talent to shut the fuck up) and hope that the branch can weather the storm. In the meantime, he can clamp down HARD on the clique as punishment, limiting their opportunities and making their lives miserable. They're not going to quit of their own accord, because if they do Niji can always "accidentally" drop info about the situation to the public. Blackmail is playing dirty, but the game's already far from clean, so you may as well.

It is smarter to do nothing outwardly right now, shore up defenses, and wade out into the shit when they're ready.

>>69892136
A lying cunt knowing she fucked up and trying to win back favours.

>>69892174
which the only smart thing they did.
bcs the uproar if anything happen to her would be another HUGE damage.
bcs scarle fans dont really overlap with other niji member she mention many time her fans dont watch other niji member (at least by analytic) but the chaos it would be if they actually lay a hand on her.

>>69861297

>>69865683
I'm going to take a break from shitposting rrats to tell you this isn't a funny joke. It's also the kind of thing Niji would love to be able to point at.

>>69881191
the one time someone did that it broke containment so hard it had to be deleted.
for better or worse, constructing rrats in a schizo way keeps them /here/.

>>69883005
she'll just got back to her old fleshie account

>>69891946
Yeah, he's particularly egregious with how bad he was harassing her. It's the main reason why Scarle was narrowed down as the next target of harassment/bullying, especially with her hearting kurosanji. The FF14 shit is just an extension of the rumor that came from the leak where her bullying was getting ignored.

>>69891818
Who else would have been there early enough for her NDA to expire while knowing the inner workings?
Noor?

>>69883055
I was a big fan of Hyona and it seemed to me that despite the potential for everything to go wrong, they all really got on well with eachother.

>>69892340
anon it's one of the livers doing ye olde classic kyoani falseflag

>>69892177
> banishment room the clique
> hire 8$/hr managers that are students, even more prone to getting influenced
idk how he thinks this will fix anything...

>>69892340
It's an astroturf attempt, anon.
They are intentionally setting up a 4chan boogeyman to screenshot and distribute.
Just report and ignore it.

>>69892504
groming manager that some next level shit lmao.

>>69892562
If you subscribe to Zaion's manager's manager being Elira it already happened once kek

Aster was really lucky that confirmation of him manipulating and abusing his coworker was overshadowed by Elira's most famous stream.

>>69892659
EXCUSE ME? the fuck LMAO

>>69892864
Zaion mentioned in her "One girl's story" manifesto that her manager was a newbie that didn't even know left-from-right, and his female manager was actually coaching him and calling the shots. She would hop on call during Slack conversations and listen in, telling Zaion's manager what to say and how to respond.

>>69892958
OH right now i remember.
like what the actual fuck are they thinking

>>69892839
Not as lucky as Luca.

>>69891946
>>69861380
Many other vtubers talked about this, but the vtubing community consists of the most toxic people on the planet.
Girls are backstabbing, scheming, manipulative whores and almost every single guy is a sex pest.

>>69861297
dont worry about it, latinas likes to get beat up

>>69861531
She was reprimanded but not suspended

>>69892864
Zaion's doc has this
Two people in management, the person who onboarded her and her manager during training (F), are her first contacts into the company. But then she's surprised when her actual, assigned manager turns out to be a new hire (M) who himself has another, different manager (F).
Her two direct managers are incompetent and leave Zaion feeling miserable and frustrated, so she reaches out to her original managers. One reassures her about her concerns and she feels better.
Her direct managers then tell her that reaching out to the other managers in this way is part of why she's suspended.
So the rrat is that the manager's manager is Elira, the managers Zaion reached out to were upper management in the JP branch (because Zaion can speak JP and skip using Elira as a liaison), and by hopping over Elira's head she infuriated Elira. But it also means that Elira is in a position of seniority over the actual managers of EN, unless the male direct manager is also a talent.

>>69893331
>believing a manipulative, lying whore

>>69893185
Hate Nux like the next guy, but I buy his claim that 1 in 4 vtubers is a complete arse.

>>69893353
>believing a manipulative, lying whore
Nah I don't trust a word that comes out of Elira's mouth.

justice for my girl scarle

>>69893563
>that 1 in 4 vtubers is a complete arse.
Seeing the inside of the community for quite a while, especially their "secret" discords, I could easily make it 3 in 4.

>>69893784
You should leak some. Always helps to expose dirtbags.

>>69892864
combine >>69893331
with pic rel from the alleged "leaker", and a picture forms.

>>69893869
NTA but if you've read /asp/ or /wvt/ you've definitely seen how nasty chuubas can get, and that style of behavior is not exclusive to /here/chuubas, just that particular branch of it.

>>69893353
Nobody trusts Elira anon

>>69893869
You should see /asp/ and /wasp/.
Why, do you think, they had to make a separate split for women? Yeah.
People justifiably shit on NijiEN streamers, but indies are just another can of worms you don't want to open.

>>69893905
My suspicion and personal rrat isn't just that Elira gained power by being the go-to translator between talents and management, but that she had an at least semi-official position as NijiEN's cultural sensitivity person. That would explain to me why or how she could get so trusted, to the point of being a 'manager's manager'; she's supposed to be the native expert on the western social sphere who bridges the two cultures. That's why her being a Hafu is also noted by the leaker as a salient point.
And being an ex-Tumblr SJW it's the type of position she'd probably volunteer for.

>>69893914
All EN chuubas are /here/ chuubas.
Just how all JP chubbas are 2ch and 5ch chuubas.

They are terminally online on imageboards and twitter.

>>69894089
> she's supposed to be the native expert on the western social sphere who bridges the two cultures
> it's the type of position she'd probably volunteer for
And we already know niji won't spend money on staff, so having a liver doing it would be beneficial for them as well.
Funny that Holo purged their SJW mole (omega) and hired a non-western dude to manage EN, while Niji allowed theirs to fester.

>>69861297
Why are you trannyggers so sensitive about bullying? Is it because you were bullied hard and are still a lonely creepo?

I bullied and mocked nerds in school and feel nothing about it. Everyone did it. Generally bullied ones are actually creepy or ugly egoists. They deserve it. There's a reason they are hated by everyone.

>>69894089
seems legit to me

>>69894201
>HI 4CHANNERS

>>69862466
I agree on this one, sha barely collab with anyone in the first place. she just like to stream alone so this is probably the case

>>69894201
Hello, Enna.
Done any foot crush porn lately? I hear there's an Aloucreep that's really into it.

>>69894201
Enna? This you?

>>69894201
No, you bullied people because they couldn't defend themselves, not because they were "creepy." If just one of those guys kicked your ass you'd be singing a different tune.

putang ina mo, Millie. alam ko na nandito ka. sasapakin ko na talaga iyang taba mo sa leeg kapag nakita kita dito sa Pilipinas

>>69894201
We got a live one here

>>69861380
You guys are miracle workers

>>69894201
Enna... Just because you can doesn't mean you should...

>>69894201
sensitive? no, far from it. see, you take pleasure in bullying others for your own reasons. on the other hand i greatly enjoy seeing someone convinced that hes in a position of power realize that hes nothing more than a little shit. the abrupt shattering of someones ego and everything they believed in until that point is simply a sight to behold.

>>69894201
Workplace harassment =/= high school bullying, you underage retard

>>69895063
Actually, it's pretty much the exact same thing except that in workplaces there is a very real and tangible hierarchy that can be used to megafuck you.

>>69861572
Speaking from experience, the only thing that stops a bully is violence.

>>69895121
Only applies to males and not always then. Female bullying is entirely based on social cliques. Even if bookworm Anna goes and kicks Stacey's teeth in, the relentless social bullying is only going to get worse, along with Stacey setting her sub bitches on Anna 10:1 at the bike racks.

>>69861380
*sigh*

>>69865133
Do your reps. leaker did provide alot of insight but take it with a chunk of salt

>>69894191
It's very lucky that it's talents vs management rather than talents vs talents