/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>69822432
Nijikeksisters... our response?

someone do this for niji but in reverse (lol

except for her

and her

>>69822524
Education isn't part of the package sadly.

>>69822524
>The myth con consensual termination

and this girl too

>>69822524
Mel had 5 years and everybody regretted the situation
>>69822567
Nijiniggers cost us Aloe
>>69822612
This one deserved it tenfold

and another one

>>69822524
She would still stay if she didn't commit NDA breach
>>69822567
She got bullied out of Holo by Nijisisters

>>69822524
She had a good 5 years. She will do great post Hololive

>>69822612
Anon Rushia was a mental case even in Hololive. Cover was not responsible for her cucking her husband or killing a cat

>>69822652
This one made more money in her time in Holo than most people on this board will make through their entire life

>>69822524
>>69822567
Why didnt you throw in Rushia? Wouldnt fit your narrative nijikeksis?

>>69822645
>>69822657
>it's Nijisanji fault when holo talents gets bullied out of the job
Man nijisisters should have used this excuse as well

>>69822703
Nijinigger try to revise history as usual

>>69822703
Except they can't because Hololive does not concern itself with it's self destructing retarded "competition"

>>69822652
Yeah and Kson is doing great now. Her time in Hololive gave her even more contacts.

While you're at it, why dont you post Sana? Or Hololive CN? Or are you too chickenshit?

>>69822685
>Anon Rushia was a mental case even in Hololive.
So the OP image doesn't apply to her?
>>69822701
????

>>69822652
Without Holo, she would not be able to discover her true potential and she would stick to being flesh streamer, let alone discovering VShojo

>>69822699
And had enough fame to get into her favorite franchise

>>69822748
The OP never said "mental illness". A good agency can't cure mental illness

>>69822699
>>69822774
>>69822753
>no you don't get it the fact that cover management fucked her over by making literal chinese antis mods and then cut her ties with almost inside the company forcing her to graduate is a good thing!

>>69822432
I like Phase more. They treat their vtubers like adult and accept who they are.

>>69822814
Even if it did Mike"kill the"cat is beyond saving

>>69822524
Well she admitted herself she fucked up.

>>69822844
>I prefer this slave master instead of the other one
ok bootlicker

>>69822849
Wait I thought the husband is the one killed her cat?

>>69822524
But
>>69822567
Except
>>69822612
Doesn't count
>>69822652
B-b-but

>>69822839
Hey it's the retarded Vshitshow nigger back at it again, didn't had enough yesterday you stupid faggot lol

>>69822920
That's what the menhera want you to believe

>>69822937
>retard can’t even back up his own arguments
I thought throwing shit at the wall to bring the competition down under weight of numbers only applied to Niji hiring practices, not online arguments.

>>69822937
Three of them fucked up big time, two of them being complete menheras.

Coco's case was unfortunate and mismanagement only worsened her situation... BUT cover has since improved a lot in that department, contrary to a certain corporation who still slanders every employee they fire.

And this boy

>>69822891
What kind of slave can leave whenever they want retard? This isn’t nijisanji when the manager ghost you for month and write pages of slander dragging to the mud. And not everyone can be vshojo. They only hired 4views.

>>69822839
>Nijisisters reflecting their oshis when they conveniently ignore Hololive terminating an entire branch of the Chinky Dink Clique bullies who targeted Coco

Elirartia repeating history must be hitting a little too close for comfort for them.

>>69823179
>autistic manchild who kept getting suspended for throwing temper tantrums
Yeah nobody could see it coming.

>>69822567
sexo

>>69822524
>>69822567
>>69822612
>>69822652
you forgot hitomi chris sis, and sana

>>69823179
he was dragged along by a faggot that wanted more money

>>69823179
>>69823315
He was a retarded grifting cunt

>>69823052
But both of them are menhera.

>>69823351
nah, he was just autistic and didn't want to do the idol part of being in the company

Imagine defending how they handled the Coco situation, unbelievable

>>69823476
Except nobody defended it... At least put some effort when you try to make a strawman.

>>69822432
It all started with Suisei successfully pitching the idea of keeping her old model to produce a PR spin of Holo rescuing super talents from bad circumstances and catapulting them to stardom. Now it seems the recruiters for Hololive actively look for a talent in terrible circumstances when starting up new waves, and the PR spin certainly works.

>>69822432
Reminder that being the best doesn’t mean that they are good, it just means everyone else is worse.
Looking at their biggest competitor they are miles ahead of them and the rest, although the smaller corpos are steadily gaining ground.
For indies, right now, joining nijien is worse than joining phase/idol, while joining holoen is like winning the lottery.

>>69823476
Yeah that’s a fuck up. But they nuked the chink and kson is doing good now so i can let it slide.

>>69823476
Things_Cover_should_have_done.txt

>>69823476
The difference is Cover learned a lot from that mess. To not isolate a talent being harassed and to not cave to an audience you will never please. Niji has shown it does not want to learn how to be better, its pettiness and vindictiveness are by design.

>>69823619
And coco had the best graduation stream ever and still has cameos in MVs and other stuff.

>>69822652
This whore never deserved to be in Hololive to begin with

>>69823751
trying new angle, are we?

>>69823751
Ok this is new. Im impressed

>>69823751
Ok Zhang, your yellow skin is showing.

>>69823930
I couldn't hate the chinks more, and I don't give a shit about HoloCN. Kson belongs in Vwhorejo

>>69822524
You can't cure being pon.

>>69824015
Yeah she does. Thank you very much.

>>69824102
How Miko has survived so far is beyond me. She could have leaked the codes to Yagoo's treasure vault at least ten times by now.

>my soulless scripted corporate slop is the best because big brand good!
Yeah no. Fuck your megacorpo and its fakeass ultraprocessed prostitutes.

>>69824384
>moving the goalposts

>>69822839
You keep saying this.
Are you ever going to provide a source?

>>69822524
>Cover: Thank you, Mel, for contributing to Hololive for so long and creating so many memories.
Also, thank you very much to everyone who supported Mel's activities
>Niji: February 5, 2024, ANYCOLOR made the decision to terminate our affiliation contract with the NIJISANJI EN Liver,
Selen Tatsuki. The impact of this decision on our financial results will be negligible.
The talents

>>69824356
Miko uses her negative traits to her benefit. Being afraid of irrelevancy made her very self-conscious and hyper balanced her tight rope career.

>>69822567
Never forgive the niji faggots that took her from us
That design is pure seggs.
Look into those dragon eyes. Theres no other dragon eyes now!

>>69822839
i dont think this seanigger did his reps
And what the fuck is up with this sentence
>and then cut her ties with almost inside the company

>>69822567
I will never forgive nijiniggers for this

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>>69824384
That arm supported Gura on EN launch thobeit

>>69822652
>>69822612
>>69822567
>>69822524
Nijikeks have enough graduated Livers to form two baseball teams.

>>69822645
Having regrets and wishing her well is the equivalent of 'thoughts and prayers'. They dropped Mel off on the side of the road and said 'you are on your own, sink or swim'
>>69822685
>She will do great from here on
I hope so but taking an extended radio silent hiatus while struggling with mental health isn't a good starting look to how things will pan out for her. Everyone is talking about what happened about Selen because the exacts are known but there is so much unknown about Mel and I worry we may hear something bad one of these days.

>>69827651
>you are on your own
is still better than Niji's cutting the legs of the talents who break the rules by public execution

>>69827949
Agree and disagree
Agree that what Selen went through is 100x worse than what Mel went through
Disagree in that the silver lining for Selen is that the community rallied around her and she is doing better than she ever did
Do you believe that when Mel returns the community will rally around her and make her bigger than she ever was in Hololive?
In that regard, Selen may end up doing better than Mel in the long run

>>69828154 (me)
I should add there is already JP fans of Mel who have moved on from her and are choosing to follow other JP members of Hololive rather than to continue to support Mel's RM. Just saying that the future looks murky and *potentially* not good for her

>>69828154
It only worked out because people already loved Selen who was a pillar of the community.
Look what happened to Zaion.

>If it's that good, why she left?

>>69828154
Mel has already returned, or more like she never left, as she has always been active on her other identity and makes good money off it. That's likely why she chose to graduate over working it out with the sponsor she violated the NDA with.

>>69823599
>wave
>claiming Suisei was the start
Retarded newfag Nijinigger.

>>69828685
She is 100% not a sign that holo was bad because she clearly quit vtubing as a whole, not just holo.
Coco's graduation is the only possible dark spot on an otherwise perfect record.

>>69822703
But they used it already.
>it's Nijisanji fault when Njisanji talent gets bullied out of the job
were you living under rock?

>>69828747
>Mel has already returned
No she hasn't, her last message on her RM was January 19th announcing an indefinite hiatus for mental health reasons. I am hopeful that she will eventually return but the month long silence is a bit concerning especially when compare to how rapidly Kson and Mikeneko returned. I'm hoping her present situation isn't alot like Delutaya right now

>>69822703
Wasn't she bullied about disparaging remarks she made about niji on her RM account?
How is that not niji's fault?
I mean maybe not the company itself but what the hell is holo supposed to do about it?

>>69828154
>make her bigger than she ever was in Hololive?
>he lacks critical information

>>69828685
Because ESL-kun she quit vtubing altogether to focus on being an artist. She had an exhibit in Tokyo last month.

>>69828941
>he seriously doesn’t know

>>69829005
Train their talents to brush off that kind of harasment

>>69829222
And then her stepdad cracks under the pressure and takes it out on her.

>>69828941
That's her RM, not her other...work.

>>69829146
>he lacks critical information
Her RM stuff on YT never got more than half her usual HL numbers usually and NND method of tracking is wonky as hell so hard to judge if she got more viewers on there than she did on Youtube.
Was she pulling something like 6k or 10k regularly on her RM?

>>69829212
Unless she has a third not publicly known persona than she has been radio silent since Jan 19th. I don't know what you are implying

All I can say is Cover is surely annoyed with what Nijisanji has done with the West. They are getting collateral damage because of it.

Everything Cover now does is scrutinized as a jab against Niji even if that's not the case. Like when they announced Gura getting her Streamys trophy and shit.

>>69824356
yagoo would protect migo with his own life
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-jporpTqTQ

>>69829189
post proof

>>69829640
It’s where the money is.
>>69829710
It’s not “going back” because she was doing it for her entire tenure in Hololive. She doesn’t have to worry about whether people will transfer over or give her a warm welcome because she didn’t abandon it. Anyone who knows and cares will be there already.

>>69830210
Nijisanji fucking up in the West would actually be good if it means more accountability and, better yet, a more competent business matching the top dog that is Cover. I am curious to see where Brave Group will go - they're now the third largest group in Japan thanks to VSPO, and their upcoming partnership with Idol Corp, as well as the opening of VSPOEn could mean some big leaps for that corpo. Also, and while their girls are still 2views, all the members of V4Mirai got fucking 3D, way before Advent and earlier than anyone in HololiveEN. That's a big deal.

>>69831005
lurk more

>>69829484
Sounds like doujin

YAGOO ruined her life

>>69829500
Rrats. NOW

>>69828379
She hasn't come back yet. She's been radio silent since she said she was going on a mental health break.

>>69831519
They turned her to officeworker

>>69831105
Rica hasn't posted in months, so I'm not sure what you're talking about.

>>69831379
Turned this cute normie into a lesbian and an otaku... What has hololive done...

>>69831484
No rrats, a fan of her work was the one who got her to apply for Hololive in the first place.

>>69831753
She didn't apply, Yagoo personally scouted and sent her an invite

>>69831687
And forced her to enter into workforce leaving childhood and puchased her house so she needs to pay her own bills

>>69822652
Time to ward off chinese from here
Winnie the Pooh

>>69828685
Because her art career took off, it pays more, and she doesn't need a tard wrangler and she can just be her own weird self.

Same reason why magni left (albeit nowhere near as succesful): because their past lifes were actually giving them just as enough (if not more, in Sana's case) money as the hololive gig was without all of the hassle.

>>69831105
>It’s where the money is.
I don't know if the speaks extremely well of her RM career or speaks very poorly of her Hololive career.
Is any other member less successful with their HL gig than they are with what they do outside?

>>69834138
>Is any other member less successful with their HL gig than they are with what they do outside?
Maybe Noel? But she did say that if Yagoo fired her she would kiss his shoes and beg for him to reconsider so maybe not.

>>69834439
Honestly, I think Noe-chan just likes being in Hololive that much.

thank you hololive for sending your murderous chinese fans after my oshi then not allowing her to explain herself or appoint her own moderators then appointing those very same murderous chinese as her moderators instead so they could ban her members
really great management work there

>>69828685
Sana quite literally did not join for money. She joined to make friends, and she did.
The reason she left was due to a culmination of different things.
>Her dog died during the peak of COVID
Sana got the news of her dog dying and spent the rest of the week acting normally before announcing her break to go to her parents home where the dog lived. The reason why "peak of COVID" is relevant is because her parents live in America and she's in Australia, where entry into the country required a three-week isolation.
She returned to streaming normally after six weeks, but despite this she still got harassed on Twitter and received snide remarks in SCs about her break.
>Management kept heavily discouraging her ideas and it became her reason for leaving
Sana didn't want to draw but management kept asking her to and Sanalites added to that pressure. Sana wanted to do horoscope videos but management kept telling her to stop (and even deleted almost all her VODs of them after graduation). Sana wanted to do "kusoge monday" which obviously got hard-denied, but it turned out that she wasn't even able to play indie games without approval from management after. This is more for the next point, but Sana was denied being able to use PNGs when her back hort arc happened.
>Sana got into an accident that incapacitated her
This is a point that gets, intentionally or otherwise, misrepresented. Sana got into an accident and her lower back was heavily affected. Sitting upright was painful for her but laying down allowed her to do things with relative normalcy. Her reason for even talking about this wasn't because she wanted to stream less -- she still streamed normally -- but because she wanted to explain why she's ONLY doing 2 to 4 hour streams. She didn't like how painkillers affected her mind so she just dealt with the pain for those streams. Despite how much this gets reiterated as "the main reason" she left, Sana didn't even talk about her injury much after the initial announcement. Coupled with how she'd receive shit still for going on break for her dog (this is when trolls would send in red SCs named "sana's dog" still) and how management basically neutered her in an attempt to make her an art goblin, it just compounded everything.
>tl;dr
Management, during Council's debut, was the worst for the EN branch ever. Even worse than with Myth, who all confirmed they were quite literally "left to their own devices" due to all of them having to share one manager for everything even during their boom. Don't let anybody say that Hololive was always amazing and supportive, because not even HoloEN-only fans believe that. Sana left because of shitty management not protecting her, not supporting her, and not honoring her wishes for content, but if she debuted after the restructuring with Jap, she'd absolutely thrive.

>>69822652
they choose and defend her over the entire china market and get banned for china forever or atleast for a long time and they didn't fire her,she choose to leave

>>69824384
holy based
/lig/GODS remain the only thing of worth on this board.

>>69834924
Jeez, hearing all that she really just had unfortunate timing on top of unfortunate events. I wouldn't blame her for being disinterested or annoyed towards corpo vtubing culture.

>>69822432
meme aside,this is actually on point and so far holo is one if not the only one that truly want to be a idol/talent agency who focused on the talent.
- Holo only debut 1 gen per branch with a huge gap giving full exposure for the "new idol" where they can build a solid and loyal fanbase without canibalizing the others.
- Holo also create their talent as "special" both for their own and their gen mates,not necessarily about lore or something like that,but they are different from like niji who is like just one of the many.
- Just like yagoo interview,they are truly want to make a "dream" come true for the talent as vtuber because the point of vtuber is that no matter your age,your look or you cant deal in front of camera,you can be idol and fully separate real life,like gura,pekora etc.

>>69835200
>defend her
they suspended her while putting out a statement that she broke the rules and they support the one-china policy
>she choose to leave
because she was excluded from all sponsorships and large collabs and they turned her antis into moderators who then banned her members

>>69822524
>>69822567
>>69822652
JUST STREAM TOGETHER YOU FUCKS !!!

Except this one >>69822612
stay the fuck away from this one.

>>69822524
>>69822567
>>69822612
>>69822652
least disingenuous /lig/gger or nijifag

>>69831379
unironically apologize

>>69822432
yeah, look at Shion, Aqua, Moona, Gura, Mumei, Ame, Haachama, Ayame, Risu, Coco, Sana, Aloe, etc.... All doing so well

>>69835840
That and Hololive had an unfortunate fanbase. They still do.

>>69822524
I miss her