/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>693318

>>693318

>>693408
>>693422
What does Mukkun's cock taste like?

now this is a watame(lon) thread

Hololive is actually good for a lot of indies

Now they have someone to blame when their lack of talent and personality makes them fail

>>693523
Because Noel is so talented and has a great personality right?

>muh indies
>those corporate anime girls are ruining my no talent oshi's chance of success!

Disagree, you needed enough noise to make a boom in the first place, I bet there are thousands of people going to indies from Hololive clips

>>693590
There are also small company vtubers whose tech blows Cover's VR chat tech completely out the water, go look at GEMS COMPANY
>>693640
Small company vtubers with 50k subs are now making EOP pandering videos thanks to Holoshit

>>693590
>no talent oshi's
Why are you talking about hololive twice here?

>>693470

>>693691
Pandering to EOPs is a choice they make on their own. They want a big sub pump and they want it ASAP.
All they have to do is grow their JP audience naturally and they're set. You have nobody to blame but the growth-hungry chuubas doing it.

>>693550
two great personalities anon

>>693318
I just want to know, to those with indie jp oshis, how does it feel to know that a foreigner how doesn't speak the language whatsoever has garnered a larger fanbase?

Idoru hijack!

>>693749
Hololive started the trend and when an entire small company does it orders a likely coming from management.
>>693816
Being a whore is not a personality. Name one reason why she deserves her success over any one of the Pallete Project girls, who can all sing and aren't whores.

If they're JP small-timers and indies, it's Njisanji and their Sony money they have to worry about, not Hololive.

>>693875
>Hololive started the trend and when an entire small company does it orders a likely coming from management.
These excuses, anon. They're terrible. Your chuuba is a whore for EN spam.

>>693945
Hololive brings in hordes of EOPs, spics and other trash.
>>693955
Holowhores are literally on reddit

>>693978
>on reddit
Yes, it's called PR. You want them to get tripcodes and post on /b/? How can you be this dense?

>>694038
They can market themselves on twitter and YouTube like everyone else. Also none of you fags have answered my question about how someone as talentless as Noel deserves over 800k subs

>>693691
>Small company vtubers with 50k subs are now making EOP pandering videos thanks to Holoshit
Sounds based to me, the entire world should kneel before the BWC

Oh, man, the same SEAmonkey retard is still seething about Gen 3. It'll be 2025 and he'll still be making limp-dicked posts about how ASMR is the devil while he sits in his hut and eats boiled garbage can chicken.

>>694092
Her Live2D has massive honkers and she's an ASMRtits.
People buy into the yurishit with Flare, and they like her voice. Not everyone has to be pushing the envelope with an ARG or be singing their hearts out to deserve their viewerbase.
The fact is, Noel is a success inside and outside of Hololive. You will always be mad at her for effortlessly having a devoted following.

>>693978
You know you're on /vt/ and not /jp/ right? Ranting about muh EOPs is not going to get you very far around these parts

>>694092
take your meds, anon

>>694147
So you admit she has no talent other than being a whore?
>>694159
EN vtubers outside of Hololive don't cause problems for JP vtubers, I have no problem with them, in fact you are the ones who pick fights with them.

>>694219
You're deranged.
The big booby anime girl is making you furious by virtue of attracting a wide audience with her virtual titties.

>>694219
Keep your rants about EOPs in /jp/ where they belong

>>694281
Hopefully she develops a talent, preferably knot making so she hangs herself.

>>693691
>EOPs came to vtubing thanks to Holoshit
Kizuna Ai's core audience was a platoon of ironic weeb EOPs. JPs not wanting to expand their audience from japan to worldwide is a conscious choice they made themselves before hololive, everyone could've been kiryu coco before kiryu coco .Learning english to appeal to a broader audience is also a conscious choice. If they want to grow they need to adapt, the vtuber market is saturated.

You should be glad, you'll soon start to understand what your oshi is saying instead of having the stream open for the numbers and checking translated clips later. You cant speak japanese.

>>694439
She doesn't have translated clips

Your indiefag oshi will never be popular.
She will always be dwarfed by HoloLive supremacy.
She will never be as relevant as a smug sheep face.
She will never be as relevant as a Reddit shitpost review.
Despite her "talent" in singing she will forever go ignored.
Yagoo will laugh at you and your indie that can barely net more than 10 consistent viewers.
Your oshi is a failure.
All you can do about it is rage like a child on a Laotian carpentry board.
The absolute state of indiefags.

>>694492
She gets like 500 live viewers, you know there are other companies besides Holoshit?

>>694464
Then translate them, I suppose, so more people can enjoy the thing you like. If you sincerely think your favorite youtuber has the inherent talent and content quality to get 1M+ subs an a good, consistent viewerbase, then go ahead and promote her so more people know about her so she can grow. This is really not that complicated, tons of small channels have good content but if no one knows about you no one can watch you in the first place.
Complaining about some big channel being big instead of yours is not going to make your channel bigger. If you think you found a good streamer, let people know so they can watch her too.

i dont give a shit about holoshit

i just hate eops so goddamn much

>>693318
Being a talentless unpopular vtuber doesn't give you a free pass to play the victim.
Get good, tranny.

There are literally 0 good indies, all the good vtubers are holo or niji

>>694618
>Patra isn't good
I mean she isn't but Holoshits normally defend her.

>>693318
cringe thread

>>694534
>she gets like 500 live viewers
Your favorite indie sucks shit, deal with it retard

>>694649
>Holoshit
That's where you are wrong, I'm not an Hololive fan even if I like some of their talents

this thread is made by Ricardo

>>694492
You know what, some of you sheeposters are alright

Holo, Niji and the couple of big indies that exist quadrupled the amount of people that watch vtubers in Japan. Probably 10x but im being conservative.
Unless your streamer started before 2018, chances are she was directly inspired by one of the big 4, niji or hololive. Vtubing is an extremely niche genre and it only started booming after hololive started mooning hard circa april 2020.
Your indie is probably a direct consequence of hololive. This is not a bad thing.

>>694618
>Nyanners, Veibae, Ironmouse aren't good
Your loss retard

>>694884
Ewwww Vsoyo

>>693318
Git Gud Trash, your oshi is going to die in creative and economic poverty

>>694943
Do not use my oshi's friend's oshi to shitpost.

>>693470
Like depression and a failed IT career

>>694884
Well, yeah they aren't...

>>695040
>>694943
Vshojo is less shit since they don't cause problems for JP chuubas. Hololive sends hordes of EOP, spics and other trash their way, its not about numbers its about the fact that Hololive makes streaming a miserable experience for them.

>>693875
I like Noel, she was a lot of fun in the Mario Kart Tournament, and also in the last race, she was responsible for the turtle shell that didn't let the onion chink to win the cup

>>695173
None of that is a talent, she is a stain on the entire industry.

>>695099
They don't cause problems for a Japanese company, wait for it, they cause problems for the whole Western industry standard.
Everything has to be now about dick jokes, tits jokes, rapes jokes, moaning and screeching. That's the only thing they do. That's the the only thing clipper clip and share. That's the only thing new viewers will see.

>>695099
Seethe hipster, holo and niji were good even when they were small, if your indie oshi gets the chance she'll probably join one of them

>>693318
why are seething /a/ and /v/ hipsters so obessed with the false idea that popular equals bad fucking indiefags

>>695268
Who cares about the West? They were always just going to copy popular Twitch streamers they were always going to be shit.

>>694569
Go back to jp faggot

>>695384
Holy cope

>this thread

>>694350
EOPs ruined vtubing

>>695437
Name one good Western vtuber outside Hololive.

>>693821
>gura next to all the moe denpa kuso.
checks out.

Nijisanji is more enjoyable than anything holoshiters came up with

>>695456
ironrat

>>693318
Your honorable chuubas aren’t talented enough to make it in Japan, now they’re pandering to spics because they’re desperate.

>>695456
Does Mint count?

>>695456
Haruka Karibu, Koopa, Your Average Rose

>>695508
So they are just like Hololive? Who had to pander to spics and EOPs to compete with Niji.

>>695546
>spics

>>695546
>spics
mutts but close enough

>>693318
Holy shit you can only make me cum so hard

>nijiniggers, vsoybros, and 2views seething

>>694492
Based

>>694569
>>>/jp/ you fucking JSL tourist

>>694960
Your Oshi is Calli?

>>693318
Those indies would all be at 30 viewers per stream if it wasn't for Holo and Niji popularizing the format. They have no right to bite the hand that feeds them the idea that it's a gig worth pursuing at all.

if they gassed every south east asian the world would be better off

>>693318
Well hololive was like that until the end of 2019 as well , crushed under nijisanjis foot

>>695919
kill yourself eop dunce

>>694569
rent-fucking-free

>>694569
>>>/jp/
Go back.

>>694569
You will never be a Japanese woman

hot take
I genuinely think Japanese vtubers are more genuine and exciting, and EN whores are just trying to copy what is impossible to replicate

>>696170
Hot Pocket

Is it weird that I get some sort of perverse pleasure off watching small indie vtubers flounder, stagnate and die? It's a kind of schadenfreude I can't get enough of lately.

>>694569
Stay on >>>/vt/

>>696608
lol why you so mad and spamming, you lazy eop loser

>>696659
This has been my only post in this thread, friend.

My My, some fine schizo's here
I think I'll add you to my....
COLLECTION!

>>696170
You can't even understand Japanese.

>>696804
I actually can, but whatever ENfag

>>696716
yeah eop subhuman

>>693318
Fuck all of EN and the cancer they bring to hololive and other vtubers. I see way too many posts hating on innocent english-speaking chuubas just because "muh hololive en has more subs" you fags are so defencive and obsessive, especially gurafags

>>696932
Fuck all of Hololive the shit behavior of their fans is a cancer on the industry.

>Be Yagoo
>CEO of Hololive
>Make your employees work themselves into breakdowns and health issues
>People just meme about you saying it's an idol company
Hololive sure seems like a great place

>Small vtuber company causing this much seething
Pretty based if I say so myself.

>>697032
They were already retarded before hololive.

Look at how the eop whiners never talk about how fucking rude spics are (they're worse by a large margin) and never talk about some indies trying to grab spanish roaches? Now you know who the eop rrats are. 3rd world shitbags.

>>694492
Keyed sheepposter

>>697166
Hololive also caters to spics you fucking retard. Your shitty company is also responsible for that. TikTok dog and gen 5s doxxer being the main culprits.

>>696170
I noticed a BIG difference between me being in a JP indies stream and an EN indie stream. The difference is insane. There's one that I've been following will openly greet everyone in chat no matter who in such a welcoming and kind manner it just makes you want to stay. Even if it's just for show the Japanese have a little more respect for their audience.

>>697160
Well that's a given
If they were smart they would not have given up on the entertainment industry before they reached 25+
When you have no skills you have to sell your soul

>>697232
>Blah blah blah
Shut the fuck nigger. That isn't even a sentence you fucking head sperg.

>>696170
EN are just failed twitch streamers

>>694492
When lockdown ends and the next fad comes out Cover will go bankrupt, but Niji, indies and small company vtubers will keep going.

>>697166
Yeah, the EOPs are definitely the ones seething with rage and bitterness, just look at this thread for example.

>>693318
>Fucking hololive.
>They help promote Indie vtubers by collabing with them and be friendly on twiter with them. Worst fucking thing EVER!

>>697365
Oh yea, I forgot that Ollie and Choco gave a little boost to my favorite indie in the last 2 months. DESUWA got a boost thanks to Haachama too.

Just a reminder how much asshurt asacoco was able to cause the nijinigs on /vyt/ back in the day, and what kind of people make these threads every day.
>>/jp/thread/S23095546#p23101319

>>697438
They were right then and they are right now.

>>693318
Didn't you faggots crawled down under a rock after Calli told you to go fuck yourselves?

>>699015
who gives a shit about wigger like calli has to say?

>PLEASE NO S-STOP TALKING ABOU--

AAIIEE AAIIEE AIE AIE AIE AIE AAAAIIIIIIEEEEEEE

I cachinnate

KNEEL

>>693821
>foreigner
the only foreigners are Non-Caucasians.

Tell your beloved indies to go back to nnd and stay there with you

>>693318
Holobronys seethe

>Another generic "Hololive bad" thread
I wonder who could be behind this thread...

This is now a watamelon thread

Is this the boomer indiefag containment thread?

>>694618
The truth

The only decent holo is ina

>>693318
wah wah wah

>AHHHHHHJHHHHHH SHE SAID BOTTOM LEFT LOLOLOLOL

>RUSHIA BOING BOING!!!!!! LOLOLOLOL

>SUISEIPATH LOLOLOL

>SHE SAID "A" HAHAHAHAHAHA

absolutely riveting content with some of the best comedy I've seen in years.Holoshit is truly the peak of entertainment.

watamelon

>>694492
based

>>701162
>>699429
>>694492
>>693731
>>693518
>>693408
>>693422

>The sheer amount of SEETHE in this thread
You will never be Japanese

>>699429
choo choo

Seethe more Nips!

>>701637
This face was literally made for shitposting and you cannot convince me otherwise.

>>694464
She does. https://www.youtube.com/c/Clip-KizunaAISS

Not to mentioned almost all her non-stream videos have English subs.

>>696301
>tfw was a small streamer and had to give it up
kill me

>>693318
Seethe harder.

>>693523
This is true.

>>696301
Go back to vyt on /jp/

>>693821
They are probably commiting unlife at this point.

Im ok w hololive. They help smol streamers by spillover and bringing more fans into the industry.

If my fave smols get to big we will lose the comfy atmosphere. They will grow big someday. Ill enjoy the smols while they last.

>>693550
I like what Hololive is aiming for - awkward and nerdy outcasts who play games/practice hobbies and interact with their fans.
Let's just say it's a lot more interesting watching cultured girls who know how to be genuinely entertaining than watching uncultured whores who try to copy an already existing personality. Hololive call their girls "talents" for a reason.

A tip indies - drop off your current whore/woke life, isolate, discover how being alone feels more comfortable than relying on companionship and only THEN attempt at vtubing. Don't embarrass your kin.

Man... a lot of anons got baited hard.

>>695978
That would still leave the spics, the zhangs and the mudlimes, anon...

t. spic

>>695978
Ahem

>>699015
I'm so intimidated by someone who failed to realize they could not make it in music after failing for 28 years and then joining and meme company to try and save her career
To be fair it did work, because most her fans have had little contact with real girls so they think everything they do is amazing
Just look at hololive EN
The guys watching are so starved for female interaction that when they mention something they like they go apeshit
Like how funny was it when they said the meme?! Omg that's so funny!
They truly are amazing comedians to be able to quote memes from the internet
Very entertaining content

>>697305
The Rona boosted vtubers as a whole
If it goes away numbers on all vtubers will drop

>>693318
what do they have to go through?

>>701107
And to think that this shit is what your indie chubba wants to become

>>717066
saved, i will use this extensively

>>704119
JP Indies and JP small company chuubas are not woke and almost none of them are gigantic whores like Noel or Kiara.

>>717066
The NANMAN

>>693318
stop tweeting start creating, ctweetwhores.

>>717909
Don't kid yourself Anon you know full well they would do exactly that if they could
Why do you think they started streaming in the first place?
Each time they try to pander to EOPs it's them sending a message out that they want bigger numbers on streams and a larger following

>>718387
entry level doommongering

holo en could be slightly woke tho hololive isnt a videogame company anyway

>>718218
How many big songs did calli create before she sold herself to a company making the music, the MV, and the marketing?
She tried to create as an indie herself and failed

>>719148
stop tweeting, start creating.

>>693318
why. are you an independent vtuber yourself kek

>>719148
reasons, excuses, blablbablablablbablablablbablablablbabla
shut up

this entire thread is pathetic

>>697438
topkek

>>717066
The strongest race

>>695173
japologizing will never not be cringe

>>695192
noel has BIG FUCKING TITTIES and a ku100
what does your pathetic shit waifu have

>>695581
>seething beaner

>>701107
unironically this

>>701107
>clipwatcher

>still not posted
ok I'll do it


THINGS COVER STAFF SHOULD DO FOR THEIR TALENT
>Help them organize schedules
>Talk to other managers to help organize collabs. Say one stream Holo A says she'd like to collab with Holo B someday but she's too shy to ask. Holo A's manager should at the very least float the idea to Holo B's manager.
>Get permissions for games they want to stream
>Keep track of their physical and mental health. If it looks like they are getting burnt out, give them a break.
>Make sure their connections and equipment are functioning well. Buy or reimburse them on things they need to stream. Lobby to fix problems with models or rigging if there is any.
>Watch their streams when possible and monitor any technical problems or interruptions
>Teach them basic coporate OPSEC, research and scrub their past lives to avoid doxxing
>As much as possible, keep track of Antis. That's not to say every anonymous comment can be followed up on, but if some guy says he knows where a Holo lives and is gonna visit her, maybe take action.
>Teach the newer ones how Hololive works, what will be expected of them, both from the fans and the company. This includes memberships, concerts, collabs, merchandise, pricing, etc.
>Support and protect them from outrage nothingburgers by Antis (this includes easily offended insectoid bugmen)
>Hire competent staff with background in talent management for managers, translators, mods, etc.
>Filter questions for harassment, self-help, and not interesting questions
>Use their prestige and connections to hook their talent up with songwriters, movie makers, artists, who want to make things for them
>Screen all fanmade content that the Holos want to feature
>Help foreign ones with visa so they can stay in Japan
>Not make them dance around and shill instant curry
>Have moderators for the Chat to stop rule breaking
>Helping them secure apartments where they can stream without getting arrested
>Letting everyone in HoloCN keep their models and otther stuff (Only true thing they did in this part)

THINGS COVER STAFF ACTUALLY DOES FOR THEIR TALENT
>Why the fuck would a manager help with scheduling?
>Some managers barely even talk to their Holos let alone other managers
>Just play Overcooked, Dark Deception, and that one fucking "game" with the plug people
>Harass and stalk them
>Source your own equipment, not like it's critical to your job or anything
>Fix your own streaming issues, we're not a tech company or anything
>Hire SEAniggers who will harass and stalk them
>Oh hey one of our talents reported that her manager is harassing and stalking her? Better not do anything about it
>Figure it out yourself lol. Maybe we'll make a keychain for you after two years
>Teach their Holos to apologize for mistakes the company made in an attempt to shift blame
>Kneel and bootlick angry Antis and suspend their talents hoping it will appease them (It won't RIP ALOE)
>Hire incompetent people with no background in talent management as staff, rather they are just SEAnigger fans (*oserbait) and end up being at best fucking "SAY THE THING" creeps, (like the HoloEN manager Marine met) and at worst people who will one day rape and kill the Holo (*yger, Mel's manger)
>Pick the worst and most Gosling questions
>Suisei has literally released one original song since she joined Hololive. She released two while she was indie
>Let tracers through and make your Holo look like a fool for having to hastily retract emotes after announcing them
>Hang them out to dry, not my problem lmao
>Make them dance around to shill instant curry
>Not have moderators for the Chat because who need to follow rules
>Not helping them secure apartments where they can stream without getting arrested
>Killing off HoloCN because it make almost no money and fuck ton of drama

>>721194
You got to remember that japan is full of girls who want to be "idols"
Just like influencers in the west
An endless supply of girls who will do anything for fame because they think it will make them happy
They choose girls during audition who they know they can push to the limit and make as much money as possible before they throw them away

pepeloni

>>693318
I don't hate Hololive or Yagoo but yeah it has surprisingly huge amount of loud, obnoxious, toxic and just plain awful "fans"...

>>693318

>>694492
Your 500k viewers Oshi will never answer back any of your question in chat, unless you pay for it.
Your 500k viewers Oshi does not even know you exist.
Your 500k viewers Oshi will never interact with you in any meaningful way.
etc. etc.

Small Vtubers vs Big Vtubers is really retarded debate, both have their pluses and minuses. Personaly i don't enjoy Vtubers wih more than 300 viewers, it's pointless.

>>721653
Shh we're shitting on the schizo, just play along

>>721194
>>Letting everyone in HoloCN keep their models and otther stuff (Only true thing they did in this part)

Found the chink

>>693523
>Yagoo died for indie vtuber sins
who is the judas

>>693318
Success breeds jealousy

>>723041
Doris

>>693821
Chumbuds and nousagis, the most annoying fanbases.

>>693862
Sui-chan wa...

>>693691
>Small company vtubers with 50k subs are now making EOP pandering videos thanks to Holoshit
Seethe, larper

>>721606
>toxic
Your r/nijisanji hugbox is that way, faggot.

>>693318
Based Hololive. No wonder they are the peak of vtubing business. Keep seething though. People will still watch them, kek.

>>693318
rent free lmao

>>721194
>Not make them dance around and shill instant curry
Spoken like a retard who doesn't understand idol culture.
When idols aren't making/selling their own product, they're usually getting paid to shill somebody else's product.
Part and parcel, mate.

>>693318
>I FUCKING HATE HOLOLIVE AND THEIR TASTELESS SHIT
*goes to twitter*
>collab when? uwu
>start stream: pee pee poo poo vagina sex rape
>watch YT videos with me! (donate to choose them owo)
>merch links in the description btw
>y u no watch me???

>>726885
Something tells me whoever made this thread took personal offense to Calli's "Off With Their Heads".

>>726885
and don't forget the meta-tagging

>>726885
>merch links in the description btw
I mean, that in itself is fine and justifiable for a indie vtuber. But it also depends on the merch. If a chuuba put some effort into making a good design instead of just meme words, especially if they drew the design themselves, that'd actually make me like them more. The rest sounds soulless and uninspired.

>>726885
Also
>I totally didn't start a vtuber career because I saw that note on the news showing Coco as the most SC channel on the whole site breaking over 1m burgerbux

>>694492
You forgot the "Your indie wishes she could join Hololive"

>>727444
most of them dont care about hololive retard, just the fame they get from it

>>723011
>>726820
this is a copypasta you dumb fucking newfags

>>697232
How does hololive cater to spics?

>>704119
>woke life
Get fucked, Nazi.

>>693691
That doesn't really blow Cover out of the water. The models look good in still images, but it look a little stiff in motion. They're not bad by any stretch of the word, but neither are they perfect, fantastic, or a massive step up. Maybe their live show looks better, but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>729111
Luckily Nenechi keeps them all corralled in her chat

>>694492
>my oshi this
>my oshi that
GG MEN

>>695456
Your Average Rose
StalkerAlker
Alice Sawyer
Nina
Lilyhops

Gura was an indie, now she has the most subs of any holo

>>721194
>Help them organize schedules
They do.
>Talk to other managers to help organize collabs. Say one stream Holo A says she'd like to collab with Holo B someday but she's too shy to ask. Holo A's manager should at the very least float the idea to Holo B's manager.
See above.
>Get permissions for games they want to stream
See above.
>Keep track of their physical and mental health. If it looks like they are getting burnt out, give them a break.
Why should they micromanage their talent's daily lives outside of their required stream time and events? That seems like a really dystopian idea to have a corporation control you like that.
>Make sure their connections and equipment are functioning well. Buy or reimburse them on things they need to stream. Lobby to fix problems with models or rigging if there is any.
They do.
>Watch their streams when possible and monitor any technical problems or interruptions
see above.
>Teach them basic coporate OPSEC, research and scrub their past lives to avoid doxxing
see above.
>As much as possible, keep track of Antis. That's not to say every anonymous comment can be followed up on, but if some guy says he knows where a Holo lives and is gonna visit her, maybe take action.
see above.
>Teach the newer ones how Hololive works, what will be expected of them, both from the fans and the company. This includes memberships, concerts, collabs, merchandise, pricing, etc.
see above.
>Support and protect them from outrage nothingburgers by Antis (this includes easily offended insectoid bugmen)
see above.
>Hire competent staff with background in talent management for managers, translators, mods, etc.
see above.
>Filter questions for harassment, self-help, and not interesting questions
see above.
>Use their prestige and connections to hook their talent up with songwriters, movie makers, artists, who want to make things for them
see above.
>Screen all fanmade content that the Holos want to feature
see above.
>Help foreign ones with visa so they can stay in Japan
They probably do? That seems like some really heavy paperwork for a vtuber agency to consolidate work visas.
>Not make them dance around and shill instant curry
Why are business collaborations bad?
>Have moderators for the Chat to stop rule breaking
They do.
>Helping them secure apartments where they can stream without getting arrested
What is the rrat behind this?
>Letting everyone in HoloCN keep their models and otther stuff (Only true thing they did in this part)
They tried but there was bad communication between the two and the complications of leaking company software plus some of them leaving before it was finalized made this extremely difficult.

>>666666

>>717529
this

>>694569
Based
Keep making these monolingual retards seethe brother

>>741753
>you're seething lol
>about a post that is literally expressing seething
This is why /hlgg/ was destined to overtake /hlg/ from the start.

>>696301
>mfw when an indie that I followed quit and wiped all social media
>my archive of her videos is probably the only proof of her existence

At least holoniggers show their true colors in this thread. I hope all their oshis go out with a scandal so they can't even remember them fondly.

>Teamates are the unemployed twitch crowd that shitpost ironically during dead hours
>Chumbuds are composed of ojisans and children -- primarily an ESL audience
>Takodachis don't exist in the threads when Ina is around, either due to life reps or wasting their time eleswhere
>Deadbeats fucking hate Mori. They support her as a form of passive aggression and beat the shit out of each other to give Deadbeats a bad name
>KFP are common shitposters but leave the thread to spread their shitposting elsewhere when Kiara isn't on.
Uto LOVE

>>693945
Nijisanji presence isn't as big as hololive in the west so this is bs. Also, Sony Music invested in them, and it was for capital, with a minimal of shares.

>>696886
お前は絶対に日本人になれない

>>701637
You cannot stop me from eating Japanese pork.

>>693318
Have you ever considered the reason you're not popular is because you talk about social issues on your video game stream?

>his indie doesnt even break 3-digit live viewers
awww. small small turtle house

least with hollowlife we don't have to worry about troons n cancer like Artem n indies.

>>696170
This. JP's side actually plays into characters alot, some even to the point of indifferentiable of the seiyuu and the model/characters. Meanwhiles EN basically normal women speaking english, which is why i watch them very occasionally (not EOP but dirtdum jap's knowledge)

>>751327
Try someone like lilyhops, that's an example of a heavy character focused ENvtuber.

>>694534
500 is pretty gud

>>697305
>When lockdown ends
so not in the next 10 years

If EN are somehow twitch whores, JP are NND sluts.

>>755454
Does anyone dispute this?

>>693318
Yeah fuck hololive for introducing the concept of the vtuber streamer to a broader international audience and leading to an explosion in people pretending to be vtubers.

>>693318
Remind me.

>>759380
That was Aichan.

>>759944
Not the current streamer model. Nijisanji was the one who shifted the market in that direction and hololive's lucky break introduced that model to the international audience.

>>717529
/thread

>>759380
>fuck hololive for introducing the concept of the vtuber streamer to a broader international audience
Yes, unironically this has completely ruined vtubing entirely. It works with Japansese but the English ones are basically just twitch thots larping as anime girls, even hololive EN.

>>694569
Best post on this board right now.

we all know who is behind this

>>717529
lmao, you love to see it

>>719148
this is true for almost all musicians. . .

>>721653
honestly small vtubers seem way more dangerous. obviously you'll get schizo stalkers either way but at least for bigger streamers the average viewer is less likely to forment the parasocial relationship that you're much more likely to see if the streamer actually interacts with you regularly

>>770296
As someone who followed an indie, I can say this actually happened.

She nuke everything after the creep started sending her pictures of her home.

>>744566
This isn't even a good pasta you retard, quit shitting up threads by simply posting it

>>729157
Nobody cares about your cultish, partisan bullshit. Fuck off and never come back.

>>694569
based.

>>694884
That explains a lot, this thread was made by vshojofags

They're more e-girls than actual vtuber

>>729157
Go back to twitter, you fuking verified vtuber

>>770169
Do you respect the musicians who turn around after being signed to a company and tell those who are still indie that they worthless and need to start working harder?

>>779052
>e-girls
>vtubers

That's basically the same fucking thing

hololive is great. cute japanese girls doing fun and cute things. western vtubers can't even compete with that since they are all sluts

>>788567
You can have the crispiest beats, they ain’t worth shit if you don’t make them interesting.
Innovation is part of the job, sorry if you can’t get by on pure masturbatory practice.

As long as Haachama exists, I will never care about other vtubers. There, I said it.

>>717529
>Like how funny was it when they said the meme?! Omg that's so funny!
Hi Gura! I am not saying you are her, but that's pretty much her attitude to memes in a nutshell. Her roommate made a couple of EPs and collabs and sat on a cushy 10k sub count before the largest japanese company for internet idols picked her up and made her sing their anime OP. I don't know in which year you are living but she and her roommate are still both making it. I wouldn't wank it to the fact that it's cover corp. You don't have to be intimated by that, it's enough if you'd stop peppering your seethe with random rrats and shittalking about her audience.
>They truly are amazing comedians to be able to quote memes from the internet
>Very entertaining content
CRINGE_BASED_CRINGE_CRINGE_BASED_BASED.mp3
A basketweaving board is the wrong place to complain about getting filtered by millenial memes, young one.
https://desuarchive.org/_/search/boards/a.aco.an.c.co.d.fit.gif.his.int.k.m.q.qa.r9k.tg.trash.vr.wsg.desu.meta/text/slam%20jam/

>>789233
>pure masturbatory practice
Isn't that exactly what calli does?
She made a diss track about people in the same situation that she was 5 months ago

>>788567
I don't respect myself for not working my ass off 10+ hours every single day instead of only 2-3 days a week plus regular work days plus weekends, and I am doing much better than most of the 170 IQ "why is org chemistry and stochastic soooo hard" shitters on /sci/. For all I care, merely lurking already means you and me both are not doing what you should be doing with your life. But you are asking about Calli, who didn't say that except we had those threads already and you know where the archive is.
Yes, I respect people who know that no matter the accomplishments, the way you're living life is never going to be the right fit, and still try to make it anyway.

>>790305
see >>790383

>>717529
Anon is right.

>>790383
>>790417
You projecting isn't really helping your argument
I know I'm in the safespace for vtuber lovers
I think it's funny to see you squirm trying to defend something this pathetic

>>693408
Is there any chance that Watame knows that she's frequently used for anti-posting?

>>790655
Projecting what? Success upon my own life? Yeah no, I wouldn't call what I have success, just a lesson in it never being good enough for me.
I don't need to explain "Off with their heads" to you. It's been done already.
I don't need to explain her roommates music to you. It's been done already.
You asked if I respect Calli. The answer, based on those three contextual clues, is yes. If you want to call it pathetic, more power to you.

>>790922
One of the reasons people think you are pathetic is your attempt at passive-aggressive superiority

>>791262
Good for you. Be better than me, then.

>>729157
go back to twitter faggot

>>693691
>GEMS
>an Avex produced group
>small company
anon...

>>693318
>OP: OO EE AA