/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>69262014
Who's that?

>>69262014
>allies
Don't delude yourself, they're grifting while the grift is hot

>>69262014
Collab with Shachimu and all her Twitter Best Friends when?

>>69262118
Holofag falseflagging as NDF spotted. Here’s your (You)

>>69262014
>b-b-b-b-b-but yugo was against dokibird
sisters seething. they should also go kill themselves too for continuously defending kurosanji

Sisters buy her merch

>>69262014
The smart ones will get their collabs in now before she has the next toxic mental breakdown and someone like Pomu wont be around to fix it.

>>69262014
>hallways
OK might give this a look.

she's moving on and you should too, ndfsister

attempt number 3 soon, yeah?

>>69262014
she is gonna rape doki

>>69265597
>She

I wish U-san would do more gaming stuff

>>69262014
Doki should collab with fillian.

>>69262014
>Does a collab with Mumei
>Chatting, gaming, having fun
>Mumei suddenly stops and looks straight into the camera.
>Mumei then utters: "Feels like All Out War, doesn't it? I guess Nijisanji EN didn't do so well."
>Mumei goes back to gaming with Doki

>>69262321
pomu staying of the radar is more evidence of her finally joining holo

>Does a collab with Mumei
>Chatting, gaming, having fun
>Mumei suddenly stops and looks straight into the camera.
>Mumei then utters: "Feels like All Out War, doesn't it? I guess Nijisanji EN didn't do so well. Nijisanji in shambles, Hololive thriving"
>Mumei goes back to gaming with Doki

>>69262014
We'll attack by sunrise. The enemy won't expect our armored push. Godspeed gentlemen, and Total Niji Death

>>69262014
>Sayu still not reached out to
Girl did some messed up shit if no one wants to talk to her and Matara straight up blacklisted her name on chat

>>69266174
thats dumb mumei wouldnt do that
but shachimu will

>>69262014
>im putting together a team
last time it ‘felt’ like an all out war
Now its the real deal against kurosanji

>>69266258
>hololive
>does nothing, wins
>niji
>keeps talking, loses
I think im fine with my cute idol company not doing jack shit and focus on 3D and concerts. Leave the drama to the nijjers.

>>69266258
That would be hilarious except for the fact that Selen specifically wasn't in that screenshot. It's like punching your best friend because one of his co-workers turned out to be a serial killer.

Wtf why does he sound so girly? Almost as bad as Tamaki. I am NOT gay but honestly Asian boys are cute, I admit it.

>>69262014
>I'm a guy
>But I really want pretty hair on my model.
>Also all the jewlery
>Not too masculine of a face either
>Basically just don't give me tits

homos are the worst. If doki is on the pill, her brain is going to uncontrollably crave gay semen.

Why do Holofags let the "all-out war" comment live rent-free in their head to this day? Do they still not get that Pomu said it as a joke?

>>69266773
This guy is trying to have an all out war

>>69266773
Probably because it was the first mask off NijiEN incident that showed how insecure NijiEN was, that a little bit of success went to their head. It's funny and it's not going to be forgotten.

>>69266773
Its funny to rub nijis noses in their own failures

>>69266773
Why? Because it’s funny
I don’t gotta explain shit

>>69266773
I simply use it because it's funny and memorable. I am aware that Pomu herself wasn't really malicious about it.

>>69267076
>Probably because it was the first mask off NijiEN incident that showed how insecure NijiEN was
When this entire board is dedicated to shitting on them 24/7, no shit they feel insecure. If you were surrounded by negative people that did nothing but put you down your whole life, you would feel just self-conscious as them.

I hate that this board shits on Millie every second of the day, but then she spends ONE stream making fun of you guys, and suddenly, you start treating her like she's the bad guy, and that you dindu nuffin wrong? Don't banter if you're incapable of taking any banter back.

>>69266258
She would never do that, every holo girl is 10 times more professional at throwing shade than any organ, the most blatant thing I can see them doing is playing L4D and naming the stream "all out war"

>>69266530
>>keeps talking, loses
There is literally a bible verse for that.
>Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: and he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. Proverbs 17:28
Found out that this is actually a biblical teaching when I was trying to find the "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than speak and remove all doubt" quote.

It's almost like having Jesus Christ himself outright telling you to shut the fuck up.

>>69267589
>Don't banter if you're incapable of taking any banter back.
I think the problem is that Holofans are coddled by the mods. Mods delete anything even slightly negative or insulting towards Hololive, and because of that, Holofans aren't exposed to criticism or banter all that often, which means they're sensitive to it and react badly when they DO come across it. They're basically a bunch of spoiled children in a household that enforces all of their bad habits.

I'm not trying to sound insulting here. It's just the best metaphor I can use to explain the levels of pettiness and spite that Holofags spew towards anything Niji-related sometimes. Anyone who was raised in a proper household would have enough maturity to not act like this in public.

>>69267589
shut the fuck up millie and go back to sucking riku’s cock dont make me call elira to punish you for slacking

>>69262014
>male collab
and dropped
the doki hype didn't last long

>>69267589
>people shit on you because it's funny
>you make it clear that it affects you rent free
>sperg out
>people find the sperg out funny
>people shit on you for more funny
It's very simple. I hope that retard does something like that again.

>>69262179
>Trying to pit Holo against Doki
Good try, NDF sister

>>69267589
>When this entire board is dedicated to shitting on them 24/7, no shit they feel insecure.
Nigga just close your eyes and step away from the computer

>>69268175
>male
You're not a Niji, don't fall for Niji pozzedaganda

She's biologically a woman, therefore she is a woman, plain and simple

>>69268175
>male

>>69268280
Xhe's still using a troon model

>>69268175
U-san is a they/them
Please respect their pronouns

He is a disgusting vwhore orbiter. Sad that Doki decided to choose friends like that.

>>69268223
>>you make it clear that it affects you rent free
Having a board with 24/7 anti-Niji activity is not "rent-free" whatsoever. That's literally my point. Why are you guys allowed to spend hundreds of hours shitting on her, but when she shits on you for just two hours, suddenly you start playing the victim?

>>69268382
XYZhe still has a vagina. She's a woman who needs to be dicked back down to the tradwife tomboy she was meant to be

>>69262014
Why is she ignoring Zaion and collabing with this troon instead?

>>69268271
>Nigga just close your eyes and step away from the computer
Gura does just that, and all you guys do is bitch about how she never streams

>>69266327
Matara is part of the clique and has blacklisted selen too

>>69268391
>He

>>69266327
Sayu is a menhera but Matara was always a hypocrite. She cut off Sayu because she betrayed her trust by sharing some thing she told her in private to defend herself. The same thing Matara herself did multiple times while in Niji by putting people on the spot, 3thyria comment etc. Matara was also indoctrinated into the "mean girls club" of Millie, Enna and Reimu after she showed them she can be a mean girl too. She is still close with all three. So Matara will not interact with Sayu or Doki and that is for the best for all three. They all moved on. Sayu much less so but she is finally starting to.

>>69262014
who is the male?

>>69267589
this board used to be painted orange and then pink
neither kiara nor mori needed a secret gc stream

>>69268444
Play the victim? Nigger I don't care what she does or thinks. I didn't even know who she was until that shit, when it became funny to laugh at how much a basket weaving forum affects that retard.
All I'm saying is that if you let it be known that something bothers you, people will continue to bother you.
Maybe these fucktards should stop browsing an imageboard if it gets under their skin.

>>69268899
>male

>>69268899
Better question would be
What is a Male?

>>69266327
Nina joined the clique and is still frineds with all of them, why is anyone surprised she won't talk about it? lol

How does whatever Unnamed is doing work so well for attracting women?
If you look at their twitter following, they could snap their fingers and get who knows how many different women literally begging for them.

>>69269027
>sad tortured artist
>clean and attractive tomboy
>musician
I wonder

>>69266327
They worked together for like 6 months close to 2 years ago.

>>69268953
Thats a female model? Does it look different if you see the full model?

it's not fair...
why does doki get everything, Sayu also got fired and it was unfair as well...
she deserves the same treatment...

>>69266126
isn't that happening monday?

>>69269027
some women want a man who's actually a girl

>>69269149
Life isn't fair. I guess its a wakeup call for you.

>He
>She
>It
>Them
>We
>Wuz
MAKE UP YOUR FUCKING MIND
WHAT IS THIS VTUBER
WHAT

REEEEEEEE

>>69269149
She has her dramatuber friends to cheer her up

>>69265824
Yes Anon wasn't you around for the members only break down

>>69269521
It is a she who is getting gaslighted by modernity into crying about being not a real man.

>>69268948
>Nigger I don't care what she does or thinks
You constantly make posts shitting on her, so that clearly isn't true
>All I'm saying is that if you let it be known that something bothers you, people will continue to bother you.
"If you're being bullied, then don't tell anyone and just let the stress build up and get worse and worse until you try to kill yourself like Selen" doesn't sound like very sound therapy advice
>Maybe these fucktards should stop browsing an imageboard if it gets under their skin.
Or, you could just try to be a better human being? More capable of empathy and less willing to hurt innocent people? It would help you make friends in real life, too, since there's no way in hell you have any if you're talking to them like this.

>>69266258

Nah. Holo realized early that is easier to just let everybody do what they want on their PLs, and play dumb when asked. So, you see PLs supporting Doki and Sayu, but Yagoo can say "I don't know what you are talking about, sou desu ne" if Yatch Man whines about it.

>>69268544
based and checked

>>69269659
nta, but I never made a single post about millie. How about she just fucks off of /vt/. No chuuba should be here.
Hear me?
FUCK OFF WHORES
go stream or something

>>69262014
She already won, retards.

>>69262014
I bet Sayu will get menhera about this, lmao

>>69269521
U-san is a nonbinary bisexual. They want to be called them, so I call them them. Simple as.

>>69269782
>How about she just fucks off of /vt/. No chuuba should be here.
Then how come Pippa is the biggest talent in her company?

>>69269868
Akshually, last I heard Sayu got her marbles together and moved on too. So I'd say the collab is still possible.

>>69269966
Pippa herself says chuubas should fuck off of /vt/, them posting here ruins the site.

Nijisanji did it
/vt/ finally likes trannies now

>>69270004
Too bad Doki ghosted her

>>69267794
>every holo girl
might be the girls, might be that cover has competent tard wranglers that are smart enough to stay away from a shitstorm
either way, it's the right move, as much as i want to see mumei and dokibird collab

>>69270051
When she "ghosted" her, the marbles were not yet in place.

>>69267589
>ONE stream making fun of you guys, and suddenly, you start treating her like she's the bad guy
Yeah it was totally that and not the part where she shitted all over her coworkers "as a joke"

>>69268223
correct take

>>69268444
never seen anyone here play the victim about anything millie said on stream, I didnt even know she did that, but that IS funny as fuck.
now I want more funny

>>69269659
>You constantly make posts shitting on her
I will openly admit that I do not care about any specific cow and will shitstir the biggest happening for fun. I'm sure she has dedicated alogs but /vt/ is not one person, retard.
>then don't tell anyone and just let the stress build up and get worse and worse until you try to kill yourself like Selen
yeah try it sometime
>since there's no way in hell you have any if you're talking to them like this
It's the internet. None of my words or posts have any tangible effect on a streamer's life.

>>69269966
>Then how come Pippa is the biggest talent in her company?
Maybe because she's not having meltdowns over a mean post /vt/

>>69270039
It is not to late to save her

why are black/blue women always the most sex?

>u-san was born with a vagina therefor she is a woman
simple as

>>69270051
when did she ghost her?
I doubt doki would want to drag sayu or anyone else into this shitstorm, theres no need to refresh the target on sayus back right now. I also assume that theres still people in EN that doki actually likes or sympathizes with, but obviously thats not something she can say or do without them facing repercussions from fans or livers and its worse in sayus case probably.

>>69269149
Selen was vastly more popular.

>>69269947
The smartest person here.

>>69270565
Doki didn't like Sayu's tweet reply on X.

>male

Disgusting. I'm off this bandwagon. Should have known better from a former niji.

>>69262103
The pooner named after a meme car

>>69270708
>male with a vagina

>>69270391
>yeah try it sometime
Well, if you're okay with Doki killing herself, at least that makes you not a hypocrite, which is better than a lot of other people attacking the talents right now. Kudos to that.
>It's the internet. None of my words or posts have any tangible effect on a streamer's life.
I meant YOUR life, not the streamer's. You can pretend like your internet self and real self are two different personalities, but I have a hard time believing that someone who thinks it's okay to bully others to suicide couldn't completely suppress those sociopathic urges when talking to people IRL.

>>69270708
you must have missed the niko from 4 years ago.collab

>>69267589
Maybe you haven't noticed but this board shits on EVERYONE. For every fan there's an anti and a groomer.

>>69266773
never forget never forgive

>>69270941
>Maybe you haven't noticed but this board shits on EVERYONE.
I doubt that. When I came here during Mel's termination, literally NO ONE was talking about it, and when I made a thread about it, it got deleted instantly. A Niji graduation/termination thread would never get censored as much as Mel's was.

>>69266258
Based but holo gives their talents media/PR training, so it would never happen.

>>69268750
>Tall, beautiful woman of russo/ukro descent
>"indoctrinated" into mean girl culture
Bro. Get a hold of yourself. I like Mata just fine, but I also recognize that it's because she's under immense pressure to not be a huge bitch.

>>69270791
That's a woman? Jesas..

>>69271388
>beautiful
Kek. She's like a 6/10 at best.

Sisters, I can't believe Sylvie is handing out gift cards for these problematic attacks. Self-loathing is really sad.

>>69268961
A miserable little pile of secrets!

>>69262014
Who the shit

>>69271559
Post face and body with timestamp
I bet you're a 2/10 on a good day

>>69271388
>she's under immense pressure to not be a huge bitch
By being a complete bitch to Sayu... That makes sense sister.

>>69270855
I have never once messaged or contacted a public figure directly. It's just funny to laugh at retards blowing their shit up because they cannot handle an internet post. Alogging someone is dumb and a waste of time.
>You can pretend like your internet self and real self are two different personalities, but I have a hard time believing that
You've never had to put on a professional mask for work? It's the same shit.
Don't bother replying because there's no point derailing the thread to get into personal ethics concerning rules of engagement against internet retards.
My main point is that if you show that you are affected by something as harmless as internet posts, then the sadistic will continue to fuck with you.
If you cannot manage that, then stop being a public figure.

>>69262014
Imagine failing to kill yourself TWICE
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA WHAT A FUCKING LOSER AHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>69272134
Don't you fucking dare to shitpost with my kamioshi, you retard.

>>69272187
Tongue my anus

>>69268985
Why would she shit on management when the clique was management?

>>69272134
Imagine being a billion dollar corporation getting ethered by a fat chick who failed to kill herself twice hahahaha

>>69268699
so?

>>69271914
Sayufag here, we don't really know what went down between them. I agree on Mata acting like a cunt, but Sayu has had a couple of bitch moments herself, so, eh, whatever. Maybe it's just a peak women moment. Let's just move on.

>they called Doki fat
>meanwhile, a cursory glance at the doxsite shows that Elira is a similar weight and Millie is fucking OBESE
>they called Doki BPD
>meanwhile, the clique and the kindreds are showing far more signs of BPD

>>69271164
nigger we can all see the archives, kill yourself.

>>69269794
God, he's on the verge of tears. This is one of the most emotional performances I've seen in a long time and it only took five seconds.

>>69268049
Sayu is John the Baptist. One was decapitated only after a brief campaign of being of cuckoo political agitator prophesizing the rottenness to the point of collapse of Nijisanji. Her long-term future adherents will be reduced to an infinitesimal following of a handful of thousands of Apocalyptic Gnostics bathing in their own piss while being from the swamps of Gulf Iraq and Iran by mudslimes into the desert and Western countries that originally bombed them with drones.

Doki is that other guy. She tried to show the masses the way to the life of dutiful, diligent worker who crafts their work with their own hands and sweat. Many came who hear her words and perform great feats. All the while proclaiming cryptic, if pointed and damning challenges to the legitimacy of the authority of those priests who secured the temple. As thanks for these warnings and providence, she was crucified by that avaricious race of Harry Potter goblins that cared more about getting sponsors to hawk merch at their temple than the spiritual welfare of the flock they were appointed to guide. She was mocked, whipped and even betrayed by those closest to her.

Upon raising on the cross, she promised a seat beside her in paradise for those criminals persecuted alongside her who proclaimed her sinlessness. For the sake of absolution of the destruction of others, she took on all the sins of her persecutors. When her spirit was finally apparently extinguished, The earth wept, the air thundered. The great Curtain of the temple was torn, laying bare its innards before the world.

But she was emerged succoured after several days interred in the tomb. And despite their attempts to slay her, she ascended with more followers and more devotion than she had ever before. And continues to inspire disciples across the nations to this day.

>>69272413
>Millie is fucking OBESE
AWOOGA

>>69268049
Proverbs predates Jesus

>>69271164
Sister? Are you retarded? We have archives. Everyone was talking about Mel.

>>69272187
Give it credit, the NDF at least used 4chanx to change the file name this time

>>69267589
>but then she spends ONE stream making fun of you guys
Fuck off, they made fun of Pomu's 3D debut. NO ONE here did it. No one.

>>69272352
Thats fine, both of them are being bitches. But the anon is trying to make excuses saying Matara is trying not to be a bitch, which is just blatantly false.

>>69272832
That's fair, I agree

>>69271164
Fuck off retard

>>69272669
Take your meds shcizo

>>69269149
Because the general public doesn't like Sayu. People were asking for her graduation when she was initially suspended. Even after she released her doc about how she was treated, the general attitude basically became, that she probably has a point, but she still sucks.

>>69273235
NIJISEETHE

dookiebird

>>69273693
Poopybird.

HAHH

>>69271822
Cope

>>69266327
nigga sayu was at niji for barely 3 months and spent 1 month of that time suspended

>>69273238
>Because the general public doesn't like Sayu
Yeah, it couldn't have been because she was only in the company for 2 fucking months and her friends threw her under the bus

>>69262014
You want to know the true rrat?
>The clique and Elira though friends, were planning to part ways amicably
>Vshojo is the clique's safeguard because Nijisanji was growing too much and there was not having enough space for everyone
>They were slowly graduating so Niji doesn't take too much damage at once, with first Nina, then Mysta, and now Kyo
>Mika is also to join Vshojo for reasons that can't be said but you probably already know
>This was the reason why other talents that graduated were not joining Vshojo like the ones in the clique did

Now, RRAT EXPAND

>Kson grasped the opportunity of forming VshojoJP with Nazuna due to her audience as Rushia making the management allow her to enter even though she was not so close with Ironmouse at the time, jumping the nepotism
>Kson uses Nazuna's influence to establish herself, and tries to poach Niji talents in 2022 by manipulating them when they are fragile, just like she did with Nazuna and Pikamee in the future
>Management notices her actions, steps in, and bans her from collabing with Niji in 2022
>She uses every opportunity to get close to the main gang of Vshojo and their own clique there, gaining more leverage
>When Nazuna had the Delutaya drama, Kson started to slowly distance herself from her, as she has lost her usage
>She does lot of cautious movements to improve her image, many disguised as goodwill, such as this one with Nazuna, her initial support for Sayu was nothing other than a movement to boost her image not in the immediate future, but in the long term
>She knows that the ones who hate Sayu the most are the ones that will stay in the company, those being Elira and Vox, Elira only getting Sayu's bulletlist done because she told all her actions to the managers which were almost all JP only, the reason why other livers don't get punished is because she does not tell the manager of their actions
>Some time later, she notices Pikamee got in a fragile state of mind from the Hogwards Legacy harassment, she who had previous friendship, took full advantage of it
>She manages to get Pikamee during this time with the promise of 3D with her leverage, with Pikamee's model being made in 3 months in a half
>Nina goes to Vshojo with Kson's leverage, at this point Kson was a good friend of Ironmouse and the only other one with the power of nepohire
>Mysta goes to Vshojo as well
>When she sees that Nazuna, who did screw up again and again, was leaving Vshojo, she makes it very clear that she has nothing to do with her anymore, showing more that she did not have any true friendship with her
>After Nazuna leaves for her VA carreer, knowing that many people would throw shade at her for saying the things she did at her leaving Vshojo and that would stain her reputation a little bit, she leaks the Mafumafu case to the gossip magazine
>Kyo was about to leave and join Vshojo as well
>You are here

WHY EVERYONE IGNORED KSON IN ALL OF THIS?

>>69274115
THIS EXPLAINS HER BEING BLOCKED FROM NIJI, I HAD FORGOT THAT SHE WAS BLOCKED
WHAT THE FUCK

>>69266258
Nah, you're laying it on too thick. Just the "all out war" line should be enough. Maybe say it during a heated scrimish in Apex so she has plausible deniability.

>>69274115
I always felt like she was a bit weird, and she always conquered what she wanted
It takes more than luck and good will to conquer so many things, that's for sure
And she always sounded so perfect, but so fake, because she never sounded naive to how she can exploit things (I don't have a better way to explain it)
I always had a feeling she was very manipulative, specially with the Nazuna situation, it was all too pristine for something that shouldn't be
After all, why would she associate so closely to someone who had shown no sign of wanting to improve as a person? And why it sounded like she didn't want Nazuna to improve as a person either?
Fake friends only tell what you want to hear so they can use the most out of you, that's the feeling I got from here, but I didn't thought about the other cases

>>69274115
>>69274258
>all caps
can you at least try to make your samefagging less obvious

>>69262014
>they/them vtuber(real)

>>69274115
neck yourself chimp

>>69266773
the 2 reasons are just joking around or if they're actually mad than its sever autism. Fulgur was the only one who said anything remotely negative in that group chat "council didnt do as well as expected"

>>69262014
Remember
>You can always just graduate :)
Sure hope that doesn't somehow become relevant discussion material eventually

>>69274850
It was me anon
I just copied his way of typing a reaction cause I thought it was funny
He has some points though

>>69274115
>>69274926
This gives another reason why Kson wanted to form
her reputation so well, because people would do the
defending for her

Most people will not even think for a second that Kson
could do shit like this due the face she created in
the vtubing scene

>>69275193
i think you should tie a noose around your brown neck and jump off a chair

>>69266258
>suggesting Mumei would ever do anything interesting

>>69275267
Cope and seethe anon, your cries won't make you fuck
Kson's highly frequented pussy

>>69275360
go back to /#/ retarded third world nigger

>>69267589
This is what happens when you keep giving attention to people that hate you and despise you, you end up giving them more material to work with, making them keep trying to make you upset so you'll mess up like nijis keep doing all the time. Look at Kiara for example, she was by far one of the most hated chubas /here/ (even more than Mori, but that changed after the Connor incident), but she would almost never give attention to it and wouldn't do/say stuff that would prompt those people to keep shitting on her, she just kept doing her own thing and ignored these type of dramatalk.

>>69274115
In that scenario we are talking about a split of the clique even though they stay as friends right?
It does make sense, even if that other rrat is right, not many others gained stuff other than Elira
Its more that their stuff didn't get as impended as others, but even then, the ones in the clique still
Didn't get anywhere near as Elira's level of merch cameo, and it makes sense that they were
More willing to put with it if they were already planning to leave and Elira didn't stay in their path as much
This actually should be considered for the unified one, it sets the timeline way more and gives
More reasons to why even people in the clique are leaving despite the supposed benefits they should
Have in the other scenario

>>69275734
stop samefagging shitskin, you type the same way in every fucking post

>>69275193
I doubt that other anon has anything to do with Kson, its probably just OP sucking Riku's cock

Stop falling for the Sis' deflection tactic. Shoehorning vshojo in to this should be an obvious red flag.

>>69275791
>>69275360
>>69275267
>>69274926
See? Its the OP that's seething
Nijisisters start to cry and scream at the sight of any talk that Niji is bad, so its not surprising at all

>>69275975
i hate nijisanji more than you do
stop involving kson in your retarded chimpery

>>69275360
>Kson's highly frequented pussy
Yeah, by hot models and JAV stars

>>69275880
I am the one who made that rrrat, and I don't see how it would be a red flag, if anything, it would explain and solidify parts of the G unified rato, it would explain its biggest hole that is "Why are people of the Clique leaving even though they should have full control of the agency?"
It would also explain why Nijisanji was banned from collabing with Kson (Which is what I built this mainly around), and would end up making it even more universal, showing that there's many ripples, but in the big picture, it just makes more sense

>>69262014
for the love of riku take your meds

>>69276296
i think you should end your worthless life

>>69276296
>It would explain inconsequential facets of what's happening in areas that are unrelated to current events.
You're a retard.

>>69273423
Take your meds retard

>>69270695
the empath can deduce from a missing like on social media the entirety of a relationship between two people he has never met in person

>>69276373
>>69276482
Lmao, and you said me >>69275734 was samefagging
Anon, you sound like a complete retard screaming against what you can't argue against, schizo anon has a point and you fail to deny it
But scream all you want like a little baby, because retards make me laugh, so keep going

>>69274115
If you keep trying to involve Vshojo in your bullshit they might actually say something, sis. And it's going to make you look even worse.

>>69276724
Huh? Why are you trying to defend Vshojo though? If they have something to say let them say it
If they have something good that disproves me then so be it, I am not here to be right, I am here because I want to cause chaos in search for the truth, I couldn't care less if I am actually wrong as long as I get more information to deduce other things

>>69266773
Because it reminds everyone of how the rest of what was said aged so poorly.

>>69276720
kson does not know any of these irrelevant nijishitters
she's banned from interacting with them because nijisanji is owned by chinese investment firms
everything you wrote is based entirely on chimp fanfiction from /#/
your already low cognitive ability has been decimated by lead poisoning and fetal alcohol syndrome

>>69262014
WE'RE SO FUCKING CLOSE TO BLOWING THE TOP OFF THIS SHIT! TENSHI DO THE NEEDFUL GET DOKI AND DELUTAYA ON THE SAME STREAM!

>>69269027
Men love tomboys because they want to change and domesticate them, while women have always loved reverse traps because they can be romantic and still play the part of a man without being threatening to them

>>69276886
I'm defending Vshojo because your line of reasoning is trying to paint their members as culpable in Doki's multiple suicide attempts. They aren't saying anything right now because they're afraid Nijisanji will legally go after them, but if you people keep trying to tie Vshojo members to Nijisanji's fuck ups they will be forced to defend themselves.

>>69274115
reeks of batsoup

>>69276978
This doesn't add up anon, because she was not banned before Vshojo, she was banned sometime after she had joined Vshojo
With her announcing the ban only on November 2022, the period that she was banned was probably at least few months earlier, but it still doesn't add up with the Taiwan drama, she still had lot of time that she could collab with them so that does not add up
And saying that she does not know any of them is pretty insincere as well, she interacted with most of them in the past, and we don't know what more goes behind the scenes, which is likely where they would like to keep most of these stuff
We all know Vshojo runs on pure nepotism, it would explain how these of the clique managed to join while people like Yugo or people who she had shown clear support like Zaion didn't get a ticket

>>69269706
didn't one of the girls say that their contracts said they couldn't stream as a vtuber on another account (no clue how IRyS gets away with it) and Mori kind of implied she couldn't outright state she was mori, but Kiara accidently outright said she was Kiara because she was speaking nip and doing the >my pronoun is my name because I am cute, thing and was too used to using Kiara as the pronoun

>>69268057
Tell me how I know you’re new without you explicitly saying it.

>>69267589
>tfw this was probably written by Millie herself
Millie I have a big white dick I know you don't want those dirty flips. Give me a chance.

>>69267589
>When this entire board is dedicated to shitting on them 24/7, no shit they feel insecure
I don't see the problem here. Almost the entire branch is made up of the bottom of society: groomers, flips and a combination of anything in between
There's no way anyone who's not part of the same group of undesirables would be even tolerate this abomination, let alone be a fan

>>69277310
>Despite our efforts, Selen Tatsuki demanded that ANYCOLOR should be held legally responsible.
https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1754459182412222481/photo/2

>>69262014
BASED BASED BASED ALL OUT WAR

>>69277432
>she was not banned before Vshojo
yes she was, she just didn't know
>she interacted with most of them in the past
name one

hang yourself third world retard

>>69268049
Just as a reminder that even jesus flipped a few tables and whipped some motherfuckers once

>>69277545
Usually if you break a contract, such as by leaving your company before your contract runs out, you are liable to pay for damages. Selen in this case cited bullying and mismanagement as reasons for her not to pay those and to annul the contract. That is what being legally responsible means in this case.

Fucking weird how you people can't even do the minimum groundwork.

>IM NOT OWNED
>IM NOT OWNED
>IM NOT OWNED
>IM NOT OWNED
>IM NOT OWNED

>>69277545
BASED BASED BASED

>>69266258

>>69262014
So true sister!

>>69277726
No. She was obligated pay or notice regarding her termination under Canadian law. She was given neither.

>>69277545
Legally responsible for what? Everyone should be legally responsible. Looks to me like intentionally technically-correct blanket statement they so love to spit out.

>>69270076
Even just having good management is leagues better than highschool girls in their 30s who act like they're in the right when they're stealing from you. Sometimes I think vtubers are shit and normal women are better, then I have another run in with a bitchy millennial roastie sucking at her job and getting defensive over her own incompetence. It's a long way down to suckville and Hololive is nowhere near the bottom.

>>69277770
>>69268444
>>69267589
>>69270855

>>69277901
The next sentence goes on about her claimed harassment and mismanagement.

>>69267589
So true sister!

>>69277267
That's not my direct intent, its more to paint the full picture of the thing
I don't think all of the clique members were directly against Selen, but Elira, Vox, Millie, Enna, and Kyo clearly were, with Elira, Millie and Vox being the worst aggressors
About Ike "self-reporting" I don't know this part, Ike sure is bad for participating in the clown show, but I don't think he was one of the original harassers, my guess is that he is the lapdog of one of the involved and wanted to step in himself as someone with a large following to use his audience as ammo
My theory is not to deflect anything from Niji, but to add to the bigger scene, and neither I am involving people in Vshojo directly with what was done to Selen
But you know what's funny? Enna's lapdog, Kyo, is going to Vshojo, and is keeping his mouth shut after Kson has taken the side of the public image of saying that what is happening is not good (which she conveniently did after seeing whose side is the winning side), what I am saying is that they are conversing, maybe friends, maybe not, I am not saying that they are involved, but Kson and Kyo ditched the narrative for a reason
Kyo already knew where he was going to and wanted to await Kson's stance, with him never wanting to go against Enna and still wanting to go to Vshojo, he just stayed with his mouth completely shut, not even retweeting the video

>>69262321
But enought about vox

>>69277986
hang yourself retard

>>69277897
I agree with that, I was just explaining what being legally responsible meant. She wanted to hold niji legally responsible for the mismanagement which prompted her to want to end her contract with them.

>>69277726
People who have never had a real job, see "legal document" and think "lawsuit", not "contract negotiations". That's what this has seemed to be about from the beginning.

And yes, NijiEN is that incompetent to cause this shitshow over this.

>>69276642
NIJISEETHE

>>69278019
It's pretty clear that she wanted to hold them legally responsible for the harassment that was caused by mismanagement.

>>69262014
>maleshit collab
Once a slut, always a slut. Nijisanji is a mistake

>>69278034
If you see "held legally responsible" and think "contract negotiations", you're fucking retarded.

>>69278102
Yes, in this case legal responsibility means not having to pay damages for violating her contract by dipping out before it ends.
>I want out
>well, you'd have to pay us for violating the contract
>my reason for wanting out is mismanagement and bullying which the company is responsible for, I cannot continue working in this environment, please annul the contract
It is at this point niji should have just agreed

>>69266773
I am now using All Out War as a pro-Pomu, anti-Anycolor statement, unironically.

ANIT-NIJISANJI ACTION
>HOLOCHADS WON
>DRAGOONS WON
>INDIE VT’S WON
>RRATS WON

NDF
>NIJICLIQUE LOST
>NIJISISTERS LOST
>NIJIFUJOSHIS LOST

>>69278172
So you have never been in a job that requires a contract. If two parties are arguing that the other party broke contract you can get this dispute. Each party claiming the other party should be held legally responsible for breaking the contract.

>>69278295
It literally says it's about the alleged harassment due to mismanagement. Just fucking read it.

Love Doki. Hope that fucking tranny on the right necks herself and they find her body in a ditch somewhere

>>69278359
I've had multiple. None of them has involved either party wanting the other to be "held legally responsible".

>>69278355
>Tried to kill herself
>Saw that death is cringe as fuck
>Lives
>Was very sad, gave another try thinking she could handle the cringe
>She couldn't, death is cringe as fuck
>Lives

>>69278102
>harassment that was caused by mismanagement
Where?
>T-They didn't respond to me immediately?!? BULLY!!!!!
It wasn't even 2 full days

>>69274115
nice zhang fanfic

>>69278355
Nijisisters did we lose...

>>69278396
Let me rephrase it, so even you might understand.
If you want to quit your job, but you signed on for a certain period of time, quitting before that period is up might in some cases constitute a contract violation.
Having a valid reason, such as harassment from within the company would make the company responsible for the reason you want to quit and would thus negate the fine you would have to pay for violating the contract.
The company being legally responsible for harassment would enable selen to get out of the contract earlier.

Is this understandable?

>>69278527
Nijisisters only have a point in their dream world where all that happened was this MV and that all the past before it doesn't matter at all

>>69278510
Why stop at 2? As soon as the public starts to turn on her she will say it was 3 times. Then 4. Then...

>>69278585
NO
KEEP SPAMMING RETARDED SHIT

>>69278470
Lucky then. I've been in a few clusterfucks between contractors and engineering firms where shit goes wrong and contract arguments start as everyone tries to claim the other person is in breach of contract so they don't have to pay for the fuckup.

>>69278527
I already spoonfed it once, but here you go.
>Despite our efforts, Selen Tatsuki demanded that ANYCOLOR should be held legally responsible. She claimed that she was no longer able to engage in her activities as a Liver due to decisions made by ANYCOLOR, was being harassed by other livers due to mismanagement, etc.
https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1754459182412222481/photo/2

>>69278705
>...while refusing to acknowledge her responsibility for violating the Activity Rules.

>>69278705
Give up
Nijisisters have sanded their brains and polished it

>>69278585
SEND NEXT WAVE

>>69278626
Explain what legal document would be made for contract negotiations and why'd it apparently be so confidential that Doki starts panicking when she finds out people read it

>>69278396
Why are you showing everyone you are a perma NEET?

>>69278527
Sister...

>>69278906
Her hospital records showing she didn't actually try to kill herself.

>>69278626
They say she wants them to be held legally responsible and go on to say her claims. Why do you assume they're unrelated?

>>69278355
Who else is a part of Anit-Nijsanji Action?

>>69278585
Don't worry, Anycolor will sue Dookiebird any day now!

>>69278923
Not sure how I'm a perma NEET with employment, education, and training. But you do you.

>>69278705
Why do SEA monkey whores think they know more about the law than a lawyer?

>>69269027
She was the runt of her wave until the termination after which she amassed a cult following of sorts. Plus she's a twitter they/them with a deep voice and there's no shortage of bisexual women who are into that

>>69278939
I'm confused, the previous anon said she wasn't in the hospital at all. Make up your damn mind.

>>69266258
Unicorn tier fanfiction, this is cringe anon. Be a little embarrassed.

>>69278906
>doc goes into detail about the bullies actions
>said bullies who pushed her to an hero dropped a hit piece where they boast that they have read said document alongside her first gaming stream
Gee I wonder why sister?

How far in denial are you all?

>>69279004
>LARPing your life to an internet stranger

Embarassing NEET behaviour

>>69278906
Said document was not made with the purpose of being sent in for contract negotiations. When the 26th of January (the date which Selen wanted out) passed without any response from niji, her lawyer proposed sending the doc to strengthen their position. She wanted out. The doc was a collection of instances that made her feel harassed or mismanaged. She asked to be let go on the 26th of January without it ending in a contract violation.

>>69278947
They literally are related.
>I want out earlier
>the reason why I want out earlier is mismanagement and bullying
>Please end the contract
This is not hard to understand

>>69279024
because SEA has no legal system

>>69279088
>reddit spacing

>>69279088
Stop projecting

>>69279110
She was fired. Her contract was terminated regardless.

>>69279024
Well Sharia Law probably doesn't have lawyers at all lmao

>>69269149
Sayu didn't attempt suicide and then reveal she attempted TWICE when Niji decided to defend itself

>>69266773
now say that without crying

>>69279190
Contrary to her wishes, I might add. She wanted to annul the contract, instead the company wrote a hitpiece on her and terminated her. She is, by the way owed compensation according to canadian law.

>>69277192
>delutaya
Wouldn't it be an awkward collab because Doki is an EOP?

>>69279272
Yes, but saying she wanted Niji to be held legally accountable for ending her contract doesn't make sense when both options result in ending her contract.

https://youtu.be/MbF5tThtHbM?t=1m42s

The NDF are just a bunch of niggers

Man, the way Nijisisters type reeks of child abandonment
They probably want Vox to be their daddy so bad so he finally fills the void in their lives

>>69279396
Being fired is a different outcome than a mutual agreement on annuling the contract. Please read up on this before posting.

>>69279406
Kek

>>69279241
So true. You should definitely make this point to as many normalfags as possible, it will win them over for sure.

>>69279030
>the previous anon
Simple. It wasn't me. Different people say different shit, retard.

>>69279463
It is, but they clearly didn't take it into account when firing her without cause with no pay or notice.

>>69279079
How does that explain what the legal document was? Why she was so worried about her ex-friends reading it in the first place?. Any private information on it would be things they should know because they met her in real life

>>69279241
So basically all you have to do is cry suicide if you want easy money? I sure love #believewomen.

>>69278875
KEK

>>69278705
>>Despite our efforts, Selen Tatsuki demanded that ANYCOLOR should be held legally responsible.
Nooo, she just wanted to move on and all of that, her lawyer just got everything lost in translating her words into Japanese and now she doesn't want to post her receipts because it should be kept private.
God, I hope Niji does publish her claims. But no matter how bullshit they are, people would still defend Doki because she just wanted to keep it private.

>>69279524
Nah, I refuse to think this many people are this retarded to stay on Niji's side

>>69279721
god please do that'd be so funny to see how deep niji can dig

>>69279721
>Despite our efforts, Selen Tatsuki demanded that we should not be shit, that was deemed unacceptable as we value being shit with our lives
>Hereby Nijisanji declares that she is terminated

Welcome to nijisanji yo
https://youtu.be/x2O-Nz0uteY?t=60

>>69268750
>Matara was always a hypocrite
She isn't a hypocrite. She was always a 100% confirmed actress. Internet got scrubbed by now but there were some feminist discussion panels with her in her previous life where she was your typical twitch thot leftie radical feminist. Wouldn't be surprised if she got into vtubing not only for the money but for pleasure of fooling retarded losers and taking their money.

>>69277726
So what you're saying is
>Selen wants out due to unfair management practices
>"No no no, don't go out. Graduation queue bruh. That's bad for us to do too quick, we just had pomu and kyo. You're hostage"
>"No I want out now and I'm calling my lawyer because I'm harassed the further I stay"
>"Ok fine you're out."
>"Huh oh I'm out-"
>Then Nijikuro spergs about it. Call neglible, Selen bad, and bunch of smear shit to her image
>Everyone's rrats brewing confirmed and riot ensues
>"oh shit I just wanted to be out kek"
>kurosanji case went even worse as more labor code violations are done in public by the three stooges that Selen's lawyer had to further step in
God this is hilarious

>>69279721
It's like you people keep ignoring arguments the moment you lose them. Being held legally responsible doesn't automatically constitute a lawsuit. She wanted them to take responsibility for the mismanagement and bullying which made her want to end her contract. Them being legally responsible would mean annuling the contract, so her leaving would not constitute a contract violation.

>>69268750
>>69279931
She's pure business and is upfront about it
I don't really see the problem

>>69268750
Indocrinated? No, no, no anon
She begged to enter

pls let them collab.
it would be so funny

>>69279967
they could have just annuled the contract
instead they chose to go scorched earth and self-reported in the process

>>69279931
>Wouldn't be surprised if she got into vtubing not only for the money but for pleasure of fooling retarded losers and taking their money.
Lol you are right, she openly said this at her old twitch

>>69279994
>Being held legally responsible means that an individual or entity is accountable for their actions or decisions according to the law. This often involves facing consequences, such as penalties or liabilities, for any unlawful or negligent behavior.
Now tell me, if Niji agrees that her claims are true, do you think they wouldn't be punished by the Japanese justice system? Oh, we just let all that harassment happen, no biggie. We terminated her contract.

>>69279967
Either this. Or if you believe the opposite side, she is 4D chess player gaslighter while being terminal menhera to boot.

>>69280076
They couldn't anon, its Niji we are talking about, they are physically incapable of being nice
This situation isn't the first, nor second that Niji fucks up, NijiJP had many of them in the past, but no one complains because JP side tend to suck companies' cock
Its not an exclusive problem with EN, they just imported the issues with JP and thought that people would suck it all the same

>>69278875

>>69280311
How would the japanese justice system punish them for harassment if they annuled selen's contract and let her out? It would require selen to file a lawsuit in japan, which she never expressed any wishes of doing.

>>69280437
No, she could file a workplace harassment lawsuit in Canada since she's protected by labor laws.

>>69280516
She never expressed any intention to do so, she only wanted out of the contract. Niji could have done that.

>Le retarded de Vox Akuma: "You can graduate whenever you want!"
>Doki: literally needs to threat NijiEN because they wouldn't let her graduate otherwise
>they choose to fire her instead and kill the whole branch in the process

>>69268544
>dicked back down to the tradwife tomboy she was meant to be
Based.

>>69277211
love these two

>>69280432
>NOOOOOO SISTERS HELP

>>69280346
>picking a fight with a billion dollars company for shit and giggles with nothing to back it up
yeah man, im sure thats whats going on. completely worth destorying your life for a few weeks of fame. reminder that she has a manager and lawyer behind her. she has been following their directives to not fuck up. nijisanji are the ones who keep bringing allegations up and stirring shit and shes only been responding. why do you keep pretending shes the aggressor? it makes 0 fucking sense.

>>69272352
Yeah, I fucking love Sayu, she's probably the only vtuber I've ever truly gosling'd for, but let's be real. I can totally see her running her mouth in a menhera attack and saying something another woman might refuse to let go of.

>>69280579
Despite our efforts, Selen Tatsuki demanded that ANYCOLOR should be held legally responsible. She claimed that she was no longer able to engage in her activities as a Liver due to decisions made by ANYCOLOR, was being harassed by other livers due to mismanagement, etc., while refusing to acknowledge her responsibility for violating the Activity Rules.
I have no idea how you're reading this as just her wanting out of her contract.

>>69280768
Nijisisters are not exactly what we would call intelligent

>>69280346
I believe that she is too dumb to know that the document that she and her lawyer prepared would lead to consequences. I mean, the girl is too dumb to kill herself. But if you believe her accusations shouldn't carry any weight, your just as naïve.

>>69280663
I think they expect people to start buying into it if they repeat it enough times. It won't happen.
Also no wonder they're doing it here, because no one is biting elsewhere and here they can keep samefagging anonymously.

>>69280038
It would be a good be funny to see her play with daphs ex, but i doubt he would.
He's like a mega top apex player isn't he?

>>69280768
>Please take responsibility for the mismanagement and bullying, let me out of the contract
>No you have to take responsibility for violating activity rules, pay the fine

It's very simple actually if you have ever worked based on a contract.

>>69280795
You lost? I am arguing for Doki, not against her

>>69279585
Are you playing dumb?

>>69280911
I'm agreeing with you anon

>>69280911
I work based on a contract. Nowhere does it say I have to pay a fine for breaching employee code of conduct.

>fans reflect their oshi
>nijisisters are paranoid schizos who would choose to terminate a suicidal girl instead of peacefully parting ways because they are scared as fuck of what she might reveal about the company

>>69280989
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

>>69279406
SEAniggers are just as bad, if not worse.

>>69280966
gotcha

>>69280973
That is probably because you have a contract that you can cancel with a prior notice, like 3 months?
Not every contract is like that and some may demand you to stay on till it expires or you can make an arrangement with your employer.

>>69281049
And how is that relevant nijinig?

>>69267589
>mfw niji organs don't know how to close the browser tab

very smooth brained desu, i can see why the organs made the company lose 200 mil

>>69281113
Just look at the ndf in this thread. They fail at basic reading comprehension.

>>69278310
Based.

>>69280763
>I can totally see her running her mouth in a menhera attack and saying something another woman might refuse to let go of.
And that's why I love her

>>69280911
>pay fine
This could be it. Nijikuro is going hard with NDA shit that there might be some huge damages clause in there that Doki wants to nullify

>>69278310

>>69281180
If thismis the case, at least she should be able to afford it now if not soon, but they'll get raked over leaf court, so I doubt it'll come to that. Here's hoping the clique don't try any more petty bullshit besides trying to engineer the narrative further.

>>69280768
sea monkey brainlets are peas compared to our thick intelligent western giga chad brains

>>69281102
A workplace violation wouldn't even effect the contract unless the employer acted on it. It's far more likely that she wanted them to be held responsible for violating labor laws.

>>69279585
I have been shitting on Doki alot, but it actually makes sense that she doesn't want the people she believes to be her harassers to find out that she got hurt but them.
>And then Enna made fun of my Apex Predator rank, so I cried myself to sleep.
She doesn't want them to laugh at her.

>>69281249
I miss her so much bros

>>69281296
Wanting to annul a contract due to toxic work environment is a fairly standard thing that happens. I'm genuinely baffled how this is so difficult for yout to understand

>>69281327
Just be glad that she chose the right time to graduate and she doesn't have to take part in this show.

>>69281300
K-keep up the good work sister we definitely didn't lose... r-right

>>69279396
Look at the difference between what happened to Rushia and what happened to Mel.

>>69281300
Go back to... facebook? tumblr?
Nigger

>>69281378
Not in niji. You give up everything for niji (their words). For "the family" (their words).

>>69266258
>Mumei looks into the camera
>benis

>>69267589
I used to remember when 4chan thought that Kiara is a lolcow... Where are they now?

It's about showing that you're a better person and not feeding the negativity.

>>69281300
Where did you even come from

>>69281378
Any hostile work environment claim would result in a lawsuit.

>>69281300
Bullying victims, especially those pushed to suicide feel morally in the right and try their damndest to be the better people, even to their own detriment. This is probably the case. The thing most folks laughing at her attempts don't realise is males are more direct with bullying, just physical attacks and lazy quips, females are evil vicious animals that will try to systematically wear down and destroy their targets for the silliest of reasons to self justify themselves. They'll go as far as trying to destroy a girl or woman's ent8re self-worth and identity. The chinese even more so, bugwomen are vile. And if the GURRAT is real, then we have a bullying clique with higher authorative power being led by chinks on an ego trip, just just schoolgirls wit higher social status. It's like if a group of teaching assistants were the ones pushing a shy nerdy girl to jump off a roof, for comparison.

>>69281550
not if the offended party does not want to sue

>This is the best argument nijisisters can muster

>>69268750
This, nina ended up being the exact kind of woman everyone doomposted about, i gave her so much benefit of the doubt because i felt like everyone was dogpiling on someone who hasn't done anything yet, but now 2+ years later and the dust has settled at Vshojo, the bad parts of her personality cracked out plenty of times, just shy of going full blown dramatuber

>>69266773
Oh It was a joke!? LMAO HAHAHAHA LOLOL

>>69281614
The offended party wanted the offender to be held legally responsible.

>>69280768
You’ve just had it explained to you.

>>69280663
>completely worth destorying your life for a few weeks of fame.

Things that happen all the time. To be fair , she probably genuinely thinks she was bullied even though the evidence is probably flimsy and not very good. What she claims as bullying is obviously an over exaggeration

>nijisanji are the ones who keep bringing allegations up and

No, the claim of harassment is Doki and Doki's alone. She accused them of bullying her to suicide, leaking documents illegally and threatened to make the document public in her Neopets stream. Before the notice, she threatened a lawsuit , used her accusations as leverage in negotiations and accused livers of being bullies in her lawsuit. Stop pretending she did nothing except sit and cry

>>69281720
We're going in circles, as I have explained multiple times: legal responsibility in this case means annuling the contract due to the toxic work environment. The company is responsible for the environment and should thus annul the contract so the employee can leave emplyoment without violating said contract

>>69281550
why bother pretending like you know what you're talking about when all it takes is a single google search to see otherwise?
>>69281720
oh, you're retarded and can't google what legal responsibility actually is

>>69269027
It's like fat girls, most women don't see them as a threat so they find them more attractive to befriend
Yugo appeals to "the female gaze" which is just some tiktok bs for women that get celebrated for routinely killing their feminine appeal, similar to body positivity
It's all just women clapping for other women being retarded

>>69281791
But I didn't have it explained in a way that confirmed my bias.
Say it again but say it so I'm right this time.

>>69281827
>she probably genuinely thinks she was bullied even though the evidence is probably flimsy and not very good.
What evidence?
>What she claims as bullying is obviously an over exaggeration
Proof?

>>69281617
niji sisters have been colonised so much by whities they naturally bend for anyone above them. It is in their sea blood, they can't control it.
Its also why they love british coloniser Vox-chan so much

>>69281827
>she probably genuinely thinks she was bullied even though the evidence is probably flimsy and not very good
Looking at that 15 minute stream, Elira and Vox would say otherwise

>>69281569
You seem to speak out of experience, but in the working environment men are just as vile as women or even worse, driving people to suicide without ever lifting a single finger on them.

>>69281854
They denied the claim and fired her.

>>69277211
>Men love tomboys because they want to change and domesticate them
The fuck are you talking about? Men love tomboys because they want to fuck their best friend without having to say No Homo every time they blow a load in their ass.

>>69282083
How does this refute anything I said

>>69282062

>>69282083 (You)

>>69282121
You seem to think that the hostile work environment claim just ends there.

>>69282156

>>69282207
It would have if they just annuled her contract and let her leave. Again, she had no desire to sue. The termination notice was not a desired outcome for her and pulled all the private negotiating into the public.
She still has not voiced any desire to sue.

>>69281827
>No, the claim of harassment is Doki and Doki's alone.
No, Nijisanji were the ones who decided to publicly claim what Doki told them in private because she wanted to get out. Everything she did afterwards was just in response of every single fuck up from the Nijisanji side. She didn't want to sue, if she wanted to do it she would have done it already.

>>69282332
She was wrongfully terminated amid a hostile work environment claim.

>>69282392
Despite that she has not expressed any desire to sue. Her being owed damages by niji is on them. She never asked for this to happen.

>>69282062
>How dare you deny allegations of you being living scum? You're bullying her

Or

>How dare you release a video defending yourself in the same hour Doki is streaming despite that being the time where the majority of the English audience watches streams and videos? YOU'RE BULLYING HER

It's like a flowchart with you cucks

>>69282474
It's bizarre that you think she ended her pursuit of legal responsibility after being wrongfully terminated for trying to hold them responsible.

>>69282156
To the member/s who decimated Enna's trust, good job, she confided in you, you fucking idiot, should've waited a bit more until she felt more comfortable and said more damning statements to her members.

>>69282592
Theyre not responsible. She was responsible for causing problems for her.

>>69282592
Her desire to hold them legally responsible extended towards the annulment of the contract. This was before the termination. Post termination she has never expressed any wishes to further pursue damages in court, quite the contrary actually. She wants this to be over.

>>69282633
I'm not sure about that one. We got a pretty good one with the "I could kill someone and you would still follow me".

>>69282687
Niji already hasn't paid her the 3 weeks of severance she's due for getting zero notice.

>>69282798
Yet no sign of her wanting to sue. She has adamantly stated her position of wanting this to be over.

>>69282843
It's literally free money.

>>69282384
Read the termination notice. She was allowed to do whatever she wanted as long as she explained why the MV was privated and she refused. She didn't want to clear the record or be fired. You're correct in her not wanting to sue but she did threaten it. Confirmed by the notice and her wanting to hold them legally responsible. Nijisanji denying claims is not the same as making claims. The only one who made a claim of harassment was Doki. Nijisanji only denied claims of harassment

>>69282875
it's not free if you have to invest mental energy into it and keep being a part of drama you never intended to be public

>>69282592
" trying to hold them responsible"
is it her words or are you referring to the self contradicting statement

>>69282907
holy shit you people are actually fucking retarded, she did not want to sue, being held legally responsible does not mean being sued. It means that she wanted them to take responsibility for mismanagement and let her out of the contract ahead of time.

>>69282555
>How dare you deny allegations of you being living scum? You're bullying her
What allegations? Doki didn't say anything.
>How dare you release a video defending yourself in the same hour Doki is streaming despite that being the time where the majority of the English audience watches streams and videos? YOU'RE BULLYING HER
They could have posted the video before or after Doki's stream, you know perfectly well that everyone would have seen it. They chose to do it in the exact same moment she was streaming because they wanted to hurt her when she was most vulnerable.

If they wanted to "defend themselves", they could have just talked with management and make a statement about everything being just a huge misunderstanding. But instead, they chose to bully Doki to "defend themselves" against the bullying allegations that Nijisanji put out there in the first place.

>>69282907
>She was allowed to do whatever she wanted as long as she explained why the MV was privated and she refused.
You are literally making shit up. They wanted her to stay.

>>69282907
If you're arguing about defamation, ANYCOLOR would have to prove that Selen lied, which means that they have to prove that whatever Selen said took place didn't happen.

>>69281134
>Cucks Akumbo destroying chink birth rate
B-based?

>>69282907
>She was allowed to do whatever she wanted as long as she explained why the MV was privated and she refused.
Holy shit, you are a fucking retard.

>>69282975
The termination notice said that she demanded that they be "held legally responsible".

>>69282555
>allegations of you being living scum
The ones Niji made public in their termination statement? Doki in her tweets specifically said, and I quote "bullying from within&being in a toxic&poor environment" and at no point did she mention management or livers. Niji did, and then Elira and Vox did again.
Why bother making a stream where you do nothing but damage your reputation and show documents that were supposed to be confidential if all the claims are just bullshit? Why not just say nothing, and let the courts deal with it, if all the evidence is just a total nothingburger like you say? Why keep fanning the flames like fucking retards?

>>69283095
She wouldn't need a legal document to try negotiate getting out of her contract. Also if she just wanted out, she had opportunity to by telling Nijisanji to just terminate her but she didn't and wanted to graduate on her own terms. The rrat that they were holding her hostage is retarded

>>69283316
I've tried. I explained that her getting fired ended her contract just fine.

Reminder to all retards to not engage the counter-truth narrative save make fun of it.
They argue in circles and bring nothing to the table.

Sister, Vox won't fuck you, you are too old for him.

>>69283475
Which side is the counter-truth narrative?

>>69283241
So it's not her word then

>>69283316
The document was written for her lawyer to help him understand her case. It was not intended to be sent anywhere. After the 26th of January had passed without a response from niji, the lawyer sent the doc over as further justification for her desire to leave. Annuling a contract is a neutral way of leaving emplyoment. Termination on the other hand leaves a stain on your record. I guess you can tell why she did not want that. If they weren't holding her hostage, why didnt they just end her contract on the 26th? No drama, no bullshit. Instead they ghosted her lawyer.

>>69283388
It's like you people have never held a job in your life. There's a difference between mutually ending employment and being kicked out.

>>69283538
No. It's what Niji is saying her word was under threat of perjury.

>>69283521
The one absolute schizo tumblr whores parrot, like 39daph.

>>69274115
How do you retarded monkeys come up with this shit?

>>69283539
It's not much different in the vtuber industry.

>>69282907
>as long as she explained why the MV was privated
We all naturally assumed there was a copyright issue of some sort.

The truth turns out to be there was no such potential lawsuit involved, as it was their own IP. Like we're supposed to believe that they were going to crawling to Nina and Mista for a poorly drawn two second use of their own IP. Not nearly enough reason to ruin Christmas for all the Dragoons.

If Selen HAD followed it up with the truth of why it was privated, it would have been worse for them than the lack of explanation was.

Not nearly enough reason to be hounding someone in the hospital for a suicide attempt.

>>69283660
you're full of shit

>You can graduate whenever you want
>But not really
>We are now ghosting you
>Enjoy your suspension and think about what you did

>>69283539
>>69283660(me)
If it was a normal worker, I agree 100% that a mutual agreement looks better than a firing. For a vtuber, there's not much of a difference depending on the situation.

>>69283726
>Btw we are not paying you either, good luck with the hospital bills of your suicide attempt or whatever

>>69283824
Any kind of argument for this claim? Or are you just saying it hoping people will agree?

>>69283824
Proof?

If Vox had trouble with management decisions, sisters would be rabid. I wonder how did they take the AR live being cancelled? Surely niji can do now wrong.

>>69283135
Doki made a lawsuit claiming they all bullied her. Her not saying it in public doesn't mean she didn't say it. She also claimed she was bullied in the company. Implicating the livers.
Stop being an emotional retard. They posted black box when the most people would watch according to YouTube Analytics and they had to have it be posted before the Riku statement. They are not obligated to monitor Doki, her planned streams and try to not step on her toes. Also there was not a misunderstanding. Selen sees something as harassment, everyone else didn't

>You're making shit up

You're exposing yourself

>>69283824
Speaking out of my ass, but that termination might have been part of the reason why she ended up net zero for 2023.

>>69283965
> I wonder how did they take the AR live being cancelled?
Sisters are starting to blame Selen for that one.

>>69283889
At that point, after the month of suspension following her asking people to reupload the video, it was already settled that she was either leaving or getting canned. That level of insubordination doesn't happen if you expect to keep your job.

>>69284006
>Doki made a lawsuit claiming they all bullied her.
Proof next thread?

>>69284039
Please tell me that's actually the case. Please tell me they're retarded enough to do that

>>69284095
Yet she was in negotiations to annule her contract having sought legal counsel. How does this strengthen your point about terminations being no different to annulments?

>>69283539
Selen never planned on graduating on the 26th, she began speaking to lawyers on the 26th. Everyone spreading the hostage rrat can't fucking read. Why would her lawyers comment on Niji's radio silence a week after she wanted to graduate and not before? Why her paper making her case to be let out the contract be referred to as a legal document that has lawyers sign off on it? Stop being a dick wit

>>69284006
>Doki made a lawsuit claiming they all bullied her.
Proof?
>Her not saying it in public doesn't mean she didn't say it
She literally didn't say it, it was Nijisanji.
>She also claimed she was bullied in the company. Implicating the livers.
No, Nijisanji were the ones who implicated the livers.
> They posted black box when the most people (more bullshit)
Again, they were defending themselves from the bullying accusations by bullying a girl who attempted suicide. They knew perfectly well that Doki would be streaming at that time.
>and they had to have it be posted before the Riku statement
Sure, they had plenty of time to do it. They could have done it right before Doki's stream, but they didn't do it.

>>69284247
They said that she already didn't agree to their condition to make a statement about the video during her suspension.

>>69284216
Elira, Vox, and Ike who read the document and literally saying it was in the document isn't proof now? Are we just picking and choosing what to believe?

>>69284228
I have seen a couple of sisters trying to spin that bullshit, yes.
>Selen acted like a bitch and didn't want to do her 3d part