/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>69026666
Bucket of crabs mentality, have you seen just how rapid Nijisisters are?

literally the livers were silent the whole time when she had her pity party and when they tell their sife once, people dont even listen and continue yo harass them without evidence.

>>69026666
A pajeet PR team, what do you expect?

Reminder they could just let scarle stream but now they're punishing her for liking a comment

>>69027283
evidence of punishment?

>>69026746
this. it was their jealousy that prompted their bullying in the first place. it'll be that same jealousy that spells their downfall

>>69027350
fuck you millie

reminder that they thought they could get away with it and that niji fans would suck their cocks while they did it because you let them do it to Zaion

>>69026666
Kyo Kaneko is graduating. No mention of this occurring anywhere, is just on the pile of graduations. This shitstorm is overshadowing him is massive.

>>69027532
he was one of the bullies so he's fleeing quietly, smart move, unlike the other dumbfucks trying to defend their actions

>>69026666
Japanese vessels continued to attack American warships even after sustaining crippling damage. It took the firebombing of Kyoto, the complete destruction of their navy, landing on each island and slaughtering their ground forces, cutting off all their war supplies, destroying their forces in china, and dropping not one, but two nuclear bombs on their cities before their emperor finally surrendered. And even afterwards, their military refused to hand over prisoners or to stop fighting on isolated islands.
The japanesies are literally too stupid to admit when they've lost.

>>69026947
this level of ESL is unbearable, I can't understand anything from this wall of text

So, when are we talking about the damage this whole shit has produced on this board? I know people will say it was always a garbage board but how will the sisters die down now when they and their rrats have been fed so much that they run rampart? How will "normal" discussions even look like? To me it feels like it will be a carbon copy of what happened on /v/ where there are discords with "active soldiers" shazamposting about every game.

>>69027932
give it 2 weeks after the bombs stop dropping

>>69026666
>She gave them a lifeline and they decided to use it to hang themselves

It's rather poetic because it shows that those in charge of nijiEN must have huge egos, bad tempers, insecurity etc all in one to not be able to read the room and deduce Selen was playing nicely by not going on a huge rant and they stupidly did not take her exit ramp.

Now with this Scarle shit we see again, that management seems to have the social-optics-reading ability of an autistic 12 year old fresh from a 12 hour binge of one of those GSG map autism games.

>>69028015
There's going to be lolsuits for years, canada is going to canadian healthcare niji

>>69026666
Too bad, she should have taken her own advice before being fucking passive aggresive like the bitch she usually is
>"Not my faaaauuuulltt!!"

>>69028566
nijicucks your house is built on sand

>>69026666
Reminder that Elira's clique is the management that's why she's reading the legal documents >>68987511

>>69026666
Elira hates her sister too much to think rationally. She's crashing the branch with no survivors.

>>69029057
the dai rrat to end all rrats >>69023271

>>69026947
Her side which was directed at Management.

Management gave their side first.


Livers had no side in this that was not created by nijisanji itself

>>69029293
Thank you LK

>>69026666
>stopped short of directly saying livers were part of the harassment
>didn't matter because niji confirmed it themselves
>first stream back told people not to dogpile/witch hunt
>enna provokes people with her don't search for the truth touch grass comments
>doki says she just wants to put it behind her and move on
>they decide to shiv her whilst she is streaming and the worst of the shitstorm was over
>"trust us bro it wasn't harassment"

After her justified blowup at management and the reupload tweet, every step of the way she has attempted to keep things private and handled in the proper way, meanwhile one of the biggest chuuba orgs has staff leaking documents to talents and then giving them the go ahead to talk about them on stream - leaking dms, character assassination, the works.
Honestly incredible how much of a clownshow they are putting on for everyone.

>>69030514
>>69030514
>>69030514
Even if you somehow think that Doki is a menhera and that her reaction to the video privatization was overblown, THIS is the truth.

Without NijiEN's management's ineptitude, Selen's termination would've been a minor occurance. They themselves have blown it up into a "Riku Tazumi has to 90° bow to western stakeholders"-situation.

>>69032366
Honestly, even the "Doki is a menhera" argument only adds into her narrative. Why is she menhera? Why did she had so many menhera moments? Because she was in a company that was actively against her, and one that had clear favourites, might I add. It is like being in an abusive relationship, except in this one your boyfriend's cohorts also abuse you.

>>69027532
this is the best case scenario for Kyo. he's gonna skulk out the back door with his bag and probably reincarnate as an indie or something with minimal damage to his name compared to everyone else hunkered down in this shit show. He's a rat, but he's a smart rat that saw when the ship was sinking.

>>69029057
wasn't elira the only person that was sent to japan and was allowed to participate in jp 3d live show or something? fucking hell eliria is guilty as fuck

>>69029293
you should compile them as image for future postings

>>69026666
she is a slimy lying snake tho and I wish that fat chinky butterface actually killed herself instead of lying about it for attention

>>69026666
Nothing's going to change either way. Doki is a literal who and will die in a few months

>>69033660
I honestly don't understand, why Nijisanji employees post on 4Chan.

>>69026666
daily reminder that she should have googled 'how to eat a bullet' properly first and none of this would have happened either

>>69028566
> gained more subs in a few days than other niji organs have in a year
> made more money in a day than most wagies do in several years

yea, i can't understand why she didn't just stay quiet and fade into irrelevance

>>69033660
>she is a slimy lying snake
>butterface
But enough about Elira

>>69026666
>>69027111
These just confirms it.

>>69026666
>She gave them a lifeline and they decided to use it to hang themselves
I guess thy took a page out of her book
but instead, they actually succeeded in hanging themselves while she didn't
badum tiss

>>69033230
>Rat
>Has seen some shit
>Just want to survive
>Knows who the true monsters are

reminds me of Sou from YTTD

The Rise of Dokibird

>Dokibird mogs Hololive Advent
*You are Here*
>Dokibird mogs Hololive Promise
>Dokibird mogs Hololive Myth

>>69027532
he always had literally nothing to do with vtubers and was one of the most puzzling hires they ever had. nobody really cares about him because he was never really part of the culture to begin with and is better-known only for being a foil for enna to try to fuck with peoples' feelings for her over.

>>69026666
yeah

>>69033230
>Kyo was the rrat king all along

>>69026666
>their most beloved female liver
[Citation needed]

>>69033230
Imagine if it turns out Kyo was a insider the whole time.

>>69041724
>LK = Little Kyo

>>69026746
>>69027378
Aside from the obvious troll posts with obviously named images, I now 100% think that niji fans are all 14-17 yr old girls that shop at hot topic. There's no way an adult male, or any adult, autistic or not, would post half the shit that niji fans post unironically.

>>69026666
Imagine if they were lenient with the MV because she was on her way out anyway, and let her graduate gracefully.
No suicide attempt, no lawsuit, no scorched earth. They'd still have lost two of their top talents but it'd be a slow death rather than an apocalypse.
Their management is so fucking dumb

>>69044519
>I now 100% think that niji fans are all 14-17 yr old girls that shop at hot topic
>can't find my soundpost of kobo going 'cunny cunny cunny'
oh well

>>69026746
Always thought bucket of crabs was an exaggeration, holy shit

>>69044697
>Management
Elira, Millie and Vox are dumb.

>>69044519
all of hex's 30 year old marrried fanbase are just trying to hunker down and hoping this blows over, it's kind of funny

>>69044964
Extremely, but I'm assuming there are some idiots getting paid to make these terrible decisions in addition to the ones making them for free

>>69036652
>Elira
do you know what butterface means

>>69036598
to be fair, part of it was that is that she spent it all on being an anime dragon girl cause she's retarded and loves us
and she'll do it again too

Check back in 6 months and tell us who got signed with vshojo or holo. Pomu is going to be signed up. Selen will continue as Doki. Because all the companies know she is unstable and she isn't a saint. People ignore how she is lying now and they will forget by then but companies will remember and they will not take her cause she has proven she is a liability.

>>69045299
Why would she ever even apply to a company again? Maybe Holo because Mumei but I don't think Holo would ever have accepted her to begin with

>>69026666
>be a mentally retarded neon haired "internet warrior" that spends your days stalking artists and other fucks and harassing them to the point of shutting down
>Have the mentality and the mental capacity of a San Fransisco 40's Whiner ala Main Character syndrome
>San Fran is an area notorious for being filled with people thinking they're the main character because they're trying to land their nepo careers
>Have months where you're top dog, you hire your two cohorts you've known for years and it goes completely unchallenged
>even last time you did something similar on the fire, it goes in your favor
>this time around it doesn't
>your retarded city smog brain can't wrap around the idea that you fucked up as being a part of EN management
>Selen is performing better and succeeding you
>This damages your city smogbrain ego
>Go on the offensive and try to drag her under
>drag your other clique accomplices in with you

>>69045299
Is that also why all these companies are currently simultaneously dropping their Kurosanji deals and lining up to sponsor Doki instead? The only reason she wont join another company is because she has already gotten all the traction she needed to stay indie. Thanks to Kurosanji constantly shitting the bed by their own volition.

>>69045553
>why all these companies are currently simultaneously dropping their Kurosanji deals and lining up to sponsor Doki instead
It is a public facing thing they do for PR. It is another thing entirely to hire her when you know she is a bomb like that.

I'd say the NDF aren't sending their best but this is actually their best. Pathetic.

>>69045817
Why are you assuming she would try to join any an agency in the future ??? Nigga, with how things are going for her right now she will become a millionair in the next 6 months, no agency needed

>>69046082
a̶n̶y̶

>>69046082
>with how things are going for her right now she will become a millionair in the next 6 months, no agency needed
Surely it is just a stroke of luck and she didn't help this in any way...

>>69046287
>she was indeed the 1000IQ evil mastermind
I say BASED. Would akasupa her if it was the case

>>69026666
Elira and her clique are dumb conceited cunts, what do you expect?

>>69028566
pag pag eater type this

>>69028566
So if a corpo screwed over you personally you'd just take it like the cuck you are?

>>69046287
Damn, didn't realize doki could mind control nijisanji EN, vox, elira, and ike. Well, I guess there isn't much difference between Nijisanji EN and elira

>>69033660
>actually killed herself instead of lying about it
Too bad Nijitardy already confirmed its true, right?

>>69026666
Peak woman moment.
Not like we needed any confirmation that management consists exclusively of spiteful, seething femcels who never matured past high school anyways.

>>69028166
Not only that, but she gave them more exit ramps only for them to dig themselves deeper and make everything worse for themselves in the most petty and spiteful way possible, by trying to ruin her first regular gaming stream.
Lol, atleast we know for certain that Elira is the queen bitch now.

>>69026666
My fucking god they need to revoke access to all staff that is capable of making tweets
Jesus christ

>>69045067
My heart goes out to them. Any hobby where you have to share a room with people half your age is going to suck.

We're talking about a company so fucking petty that they hoard play buttons and won't pay a fee to get a second one for the office.

>>69030514
>Guys we are not bullying her!
>Sync up our black box hitpiece with her gaming stream perfectly
What where they thinking?

>>69042183
>Little dick Kyo

>>69027732
>The japanesies are literally too stupid to admit when they've lost
it's wasn't stupidity, they were told that the allies would butcher any surviving japanese and conquer their land if they manage to win the war. They believed americans were ruthless savages and that losing the war was pretty much the same as dying so they chose to die fighting.

>>69026666
Do no harm but take no shit

>>69051360
KYO WITH THE LITTLE DICK

>>69026666
>most beloved female liver
That was Pomu

>>69026666
Checked
I hope that NijiEN slowly crumbles apart, only to leave Elira, Enna, and Millie. They deserve each other for creating the clique

Why is it taking so long for someone to make the next /haha/ thread

Doki didn't need to shoot them, she just handed them the gun.

>>69041724
The only thing he was inside of, was Enna

>>69057373
Pomu was dead and putrified by the time they terminated Selen. They should have reversed the order and made shitting on Selen a condition for Pomu graduation.

Why do they call them livers anyways? Why not just say streamer or talent

>>69027532
Who cares? Lmao

>>69058250
Sigh.
You don't understand that we are better than all the rubble.

>>69058250
Because they're toxic

>>69058454
OH SHIT

>>69057146
if she actually succeded in an heroing, wouldn't it be worse for niji and the sisters? because that means blood is in their hands now and niji will be forever remembered as the vtubing corpo that killed a girl. that's a WAY bigger yab than 100 gamebu and kizuna ai's combined and no "shoganais" will save them when westerners demand their head on a plate.

>>69027932
>this board
touch grass

>>69058615
Company-wise, yes. Sisters-wise? They don’t have foresight, and probably assume that Kurosanji could sweep her death under a rug, versus her being able to voice her chagrins.

>>69058454
wamy... no...

>>69059288
it would be bad to sisters in a way that defending niji at that point would make them look like rape apologists and that's worst hill to die on.

>>69060152
Yet I believe they would, regardless.

>>69027661
I watched some of his PL stuff, he doesn't seam like the kind of person to bully someone is there a source for this?

Daily reminder that Niji sisters should be purged

>>69027532
Who?

it is so goddamn KINO that Elira and Selen are fighitng for the soul of nijisanji not as dragon sisters, but as enemies.

It's an unironic esoteric myth playing out in real time.

>>69033078
thats not a very apt comparison, she wanted to be there, voluntarily, and got paid for it. She could have left at any time, contract or no, you just stop showing up for work and you get fired. This was all planned out for maximum pity and maximum profits.

>>69033716
we can only hope the stress gets to her and she finishes the job this time, I'm so sick of her

>>69045299
Yep. The sympathy train only goes so far, once there are no more yabs and bombshells the tourists will be gone. Eventually the truth will come out, she'll probably get buried in court, then neck herself for good. It'll be a great day.

>>69046082
stupid fucking bitch will probably spend 999,000 of it on "Doki-The Animated Series!" because she loves her fans soooo much. Then come up with a new scam to milk more money from you fucking idiots

>>69049168
there's a huge difference between actually trying to kill yourself and chugging a few extra aspirin for pity money

>>69060368
Everyone who's friends with Enna and Millie is suspicious. That includes Kyo and Fulgur.

As a foreign-born Chinese descent, I instinctively distrust Selen who has lived as a mainlander.
Never trust Chinese mainlanders or anyone who would willingly associate themselves with the mainland.

this thread reeks of disposed tampons

its all self deserved, their evil will be their undoing

>>69044519
There are a lot of man and womanchildren in this day and age. This is what happens when there hasn't any actual wars or shit that threaten their lives, people become stupid and complacent.

>>69026666
Actually reminds me of her civ collab with Vox where she just kept offering trades for his horses until she mindbroke him and then revealed she had won and he had lost. He thinks he's so much smarter than everyone. So does Elira. But Selen played this perfectly from both a PR and legal standpoint. They are in checkmate and have no moves that won't cause themselves even more harm.

>>69062371
Bitch literally fled the mainland

>>69058250
It's a 2018 thing. "Vtuber" as a term didn't exist at Nijisanji's inception. "Virtual YouTuber" did, but they didn't want to pigeon-hole themselves even if they were primiarly on YouTube. 2018 Nijisanji talents (and Hololive, too) were also on places like Mirrativ and Openrec, much like they're still on places like TwitCasting and Twitch today.

>>69062567
the rich always have one move, just depends how pissed Riku is if they use it. One good hitman and it all goes away

>>69062371
She's a hongkonger. Enna is the mainlander.

>>69027732
A true warrior race. No afraid of death and were willing to fight down to the last man to defend their country.
Allied soldiers would literally rather crash their plane deliberately or save one in the chamber for themselves over being captured by the Japanese.

>>69063078
enna is also shiczo

>>69028566
Silence, nijinigger - your kind all deserve the rope.

>>69027532
god that's a cute boy, i want his asshole

>>69027111
I can't believe the ''DO NOT REDEEM'' nijisanji rrats also came tue, Holy fuck, I'll just say that Vox, just like that other Vtuber guy, has been asking his underage fans for videos of them twerking without panties on and there's a legit chance it might come true

>>69060368
spoonfeed me, whats his pl? Pretty sure he's complicit since I heard that he talked shit when Zaion was on the chopping block

there is no way her lawyer told her it was fine to release that stament in jpanese too.

>>69063698
Who do you think wrote it in japanese? Doki? She mentioned in the statement that the legal negotations were being carried out in Japanese, so I'm guessing she hired a lawyer who spoke Japanese

>>69060368
Anon, when he met the clique they infected him, it happens irl too, I remember this cute and shy girl in highschool who has big tits was approached by the school bitches, soon enough I heard her swear like sailor, go to clubs and work for clubs who had ''wet shirts'' nights (she was 15 at the time btw) and ended up having a miscarriage when school ended, the father was some taxi driver. Influences can change you a lot.

>>69058615
Dead men don't talk
Why it's the Police's best interest to fill a person with 10+ lead shots.

I imagine what it would be like if Selen succeeded in her attempt(s) and left behind an open letter condemning specific persons. It would be awesome if NijiEN decided to do the same thing they did here, try to slander the girl anyway.

>>69064980
She'd still deserve it. Even moreso, because now you can't refute her false allegations if she took the ultimate cowards way out, instead of just popping pills for sympathy

>>69066766
I can smell the cope coming off this post

>>69066818
no cope, just not a Selen bootlicking white knight

>>69066886
okay elira

>>69066886
t. Niji bootlicker

>>69066886
>>69066766
sorry enna your going back to retail u bitch

>>69066886
Nta but you're just retarded then. Carry on.

NDF in full force today holy

>>69061090
and Pomu knew and tried to warn us through the Metal Gear arc
Kojima style

>>69026666
>Sends company she works for an extensive legal where she accused her management and other coworkers of harassment
>Gets fired
>"I WAS SHOCKED TO FIND OUT I WAS TERMINATED"

the most powerful rrat anon has posted is the embezzlement rrat:
Why are some talents almost starving or doing 0 money while others in the clique buy apartments and take 3 month vacations?
Another thing is dealing with NijiEN branch as whole. It will take time to scrutinize financial reports and such; but man. Eliria & co. shouldn't worry about Dokibird, they should be worrying about Anycolor discovering the amount of money they were stealing from the company. They will be made out as a scapegoats, and thrown under the bus immediately, then slapped with a court case for embezzlement by ANYCOLOR lawyers.

They made CEO bow. They made him bank account become slightly smaller. He might have to postpone buying another yacht. Dokibird two suicide attempts are big fucking nothing compared to this shit, KEK
Come on. Enna going on three months long vacation? People from clique buying apartments? While Dokibird had to pay 200k for her projects, for the artists and other content creators? It's not hard to connect the dots; and it's not like they were leeching off Selen only. If they controlled project budgets, they probably could control other financial areas as well. Explains a lot why people out of the clique were complaining about their earnings and lived off scraps - there's reasonable chance Eliria & co. controlled their "wages".

The funny thing is, Anycolor technically still didn't lose money over this because the bills match - it was Selen footing it after all. But they can and they will slap the court case simply because it will make for excellent scapegoat, and publicity as well. Literally nothing to lose here.

>>69027732
I doubt there is a single japanese person working in the EN branch at this point.

>>69067364
More like
>Sends company she works for boilerplate HR recordkeeping of the circumstances that led to her hospitalization
>Gets fired with no notice

>>69026666
The audience has a right to know why she is getting terminated

>>69037941
You can tell because he actually knew how to set up a stream on his debut unlike the rest of his wave.

>>69067796
Sure but if the reason isn't airtight your risk looking like niggersanji does now.

>>69046287
Elira would tell you to go kill yourself for saying being popular in vtubing is luck and to look at how talented and hard working millie is.

>>69067364
In a sane country with sane laws, if you sent in a HR complaint with receipts and the company responds by canning your ass, you'd be laughing your way to the court and then to the bank, never having to work a day in your life ever again

>>69067796
They could have just left it as a vague "multiple conflicts with managers"

>>69067950
I haven't seen Elira behave like this. Why do you just believe what one woman says uncritically and you don't believe Elira who has never acted like this?

>>69067657
>A record that multiple people have seen and said that she accuses multiple people of harassment and the management itself

What the fuck was she expecting? That's like handing someone a letter describing how you'll kill their family and you get surprised when you get punched

>>69067950
but Millie won the sexiest woman in nijisanji award she's clearly working so hard!!!

>>69067925
>>69068198
Even if they did make it wage people would still take her side

>>69068103
Let's see the receipts that prove harassment. Oh yeah, we won't but faggoons will continue to insist she's not a menhera full of shit

>>69068420
Are you trying to defend the dumpster fire that is nijiPR?

>>69068434
Don't worry, the judge will see them. I'll see your dumb ass face around here once Nijisanji has to pay her an ungodly amount of money.

>>69029293
>>69023271
What was the 1st and 2nd post?

>>69068420
Of course a popular vtuber that's well-known for being constantly screwed over by management over perms is going to be sided with over a literal corporation Anon, that's just common sense

What you DON'T do as the corporation in that scenario is make matters worse by feeding into that public perception by acting like a cartoon supervillain, you take the L and shut the fuck up and let your lawyers handle it

>>69068559
as stupid as they've been i don't think nijisanji is dumb enough to go to court over this. i expect this to quietly settle because they will lose more than just money if they make even more of this public

>>69026666
Everyone talks like they know better but there are react streamers covering this and spending an hour looking for the incriminating medical documents that Nijisanji leaked to the public. The level of bullshit people keep making up and misinterpreting is insane. Nijisanji has never incriminated itself in this matter unlike Dokibird who has admitted fault.
If this ends up actually going to court then they will delete her from existence after she's forced to pay damages with all the money she's gotten from fans. Precisely because they can suggest that her actions have some role in how retarded her fans and nij haters are.
This isn't the outcome people want but if their opinions mattered to how laws actually worked then companies like EA wouldn't exist anymore either. She's going to get deleted from existence if she doesn't settle.

>>69068420
Sure, definitely. But people grumbling about NijiEn fucking things up is a long way short of the massive shitstorm they've managed to place themselves in now.

>>69026666
They could LITTERALY have let her graduate with saying the usual "creative difference", they would had near ZERO impact. It's not even selen who reported this, it themselves. Selen/doki litteraly said almost nothing all this time, fucking everything come from niji mouth. It's such a clownshow that i'm starting to believe that there is a board with a hundred anon and that board is actually niji EN management.

>>69068807
oh for sure sister

>>69027283
this. They haven't changed at all. It's actually hilarious because I'm sure internally they're going

>FUCKING gaijins have no shame??? Openly defy company?? what da hell how are u supposed to run business when employees have free will? what the FUCK do we do???

>>69068751
They just did exactly that, though. Look up Roa.

>>69028566
i refuse to believe that anyone could possibly read this and take the stance of "the worker that got fucked by their corporation should have just stayed quiet and not bothered them", unless they were being paid by them or had a vested interest in them.

>>69027532
honestly for the best. he knew when to quit

>>69069047
oh yeah they got hosed in that lawsuit didnt they

>>69061605
you have no idea if the contract has a clause in it that states that if you just up and leave like that, they are owed money or some shit. This is a very weak argument, and only abusers actually say things like "they could have left at any time"

>>69069079
Remember that half of the population is dumber than the average person.
Remember that people will blindly support something or someone because their favourite corporate logo is attached to it and will drop them like a stone the second that logo is gone.

That's what I don't understand about Selen slander coming from inside the house. Why would Selen being a BPD demon (whether she is or not I do not care) change that they still acted so unprofessionally and crudely as a company in their own actions we can see them taking?

>getting the fuck off the burning yacht
>completely overshadowed by his coworkers pouring gasoline in the burning yacht
I'd say he's lucky as fuck

>>69066886
Because it's better to be shilling for corporation? You think that makes you look better somehow?

>>69069227
Reminder that we're being raided.

>>69026666
Your prose is apt.

>>69069250
>Why would Selen being a BPD demon (whether she is or not I do not care) change that they still acted so unprofessionally and crudely as a company in their own actions we can see them taking?

This is why I know that it's Nijisanji in the wrong here, because they overreacted so hard the ended up outing themselves. Those aren't the actions of an innocent party.

>>69068434
If you're going to submit a HR complaint are you then going to broadcast all the deets to the world destroying whatever goodwill you have with the company and ensuring their legal team will be sicced on your ass?
No you let the system play out and if HR want to be wankers and do nothing that's what the court is for, and said HR complaint and inaction will be a major plus point for your case

>>69068807
>there are react streamers covering this and spending an hour looking for the incriminating medical documents that Nijisanji leaked to the public.
Er, what? As far as I've heard, nobody has claimed that Nijisanji had leaked medical documents to the public

>Nijisanji has never incriminated itself in this matter
They gave a confidential document to their talent, who in turn read from it on a stream.
I suspect the actual case against them is going to be something more related to the toxic workplace / harassment though.

>unlike Dokibird who has admitted fault.
What did she admit?
Please tell me this isn't more bullshit about the MV - that's literally not a crime.

>Precisely because they can suggest that her actions have some role in how retarded her fans and nij haters are.
Considering she consistently includes a statement telling people specifically not to harass anyone, and it's Niji's own statements that have upset the fans, that seems very unlikely.

>>69069440
yeah except they terminated her first genius

>>69033776
Chinese subversion tactics
They think they can wepinize us against Doki and shame her into silence

Niji management doesn't seem to understand that in a situation like this appearances are way more important than facts. They way this whole thing looks to outsiders is that they're a big evil company punching down on a helpless girl, and most people aren't going to look any deeper than that. This tarnishes their reputation in the west and that's what's going to cost them subscribers and sponsors and brand deals and even applicants for new waves.
They can't possibly turn this around with facts or evidence unless they have something SERIOUSLY damning on Doki, something that proves she was malicious the whole time. But if they had something like that they would have already used it.

>>69069440
??? She only talked about it after she already got fired lmao

>>69069500
That's also an amazing plus point for your court cade you genius, in fact even more so because now you can actually claim damages from lost income

>>69026666
quads speak truth

>>69069559
they fucked this up so poorly that it could come out that Selen actually shot someone's dog, provide receipts, and nobody would actually believe them.

>>69069588
No her lawyer sent documents and then she got terminated 2 hours later please get your details right

>>69026666
Fucked it up TWICE... I'm so glad she's a woman

>>69026666
Wait, so I read Doki's new statement and it looks like she really wants to let this go, meaning that a lawsuit is off the table. So why did Niji say she was suing them? Is that another blatant lie or was there a miscommunication?

>>69069698
You said that she broadcasted all the deets to the world. That's different from telling a lawyer, are you confused?

>>69062518
/pol/ think this is by design
/normie/ thinks this happened at random
>play more vidya
>watch more pr0n
>waifu will replace the warmth of a woman

>>69069799
How do you fail to kill yourself twice

>>69069895
??? Can you read
Are you capable of comprehending that is a question?
Anon if you're esl and can't actually comprehend what is being said just keep quiet and not out yourself like that, its embarassing

>>69070088
Do you have enough money for the lawsuit, Elira?

>>69069961
>How do you fail to kill yourself twice
>Woman
>Chinese
Anon...

>>69069799
Maybe Elira lied to the others and told them they were getting personally listed as defendants in a lawsuit, in order to get their support for shitting on Doki publicly. I seriously wonder if half of the remaining NijiEN members have been gaslit by management/clique into seriously believing Doki is a supervillian who is about to personally sue and dox them any second now.

>>69069799
Let it go, and keep it private are two different things, from my reading she wanted to keep the court case underwraps, people would know it happaned but it wouldn't be aired out as public laundry like it is now.

its very chinese, both sides would save face and the issue would be resolved without any public embarrassment.

>>69068285
You mean
>A record that literally only legal was supposed to see
It's literally handing someone a letter that says "I don't want no trouble"

>As far as I've heard, nobody has claimed that Nijisanji had leaked medical documents to the public
Nijisanji strongly incriminated themselves when they self-reported giving the legal documentation, which contained medical documents, to their talents. They might have removed those documents... but also apparently added livers home addresses to them, so now there's an open question what, exactly, Nijisanji gave Elira, Vox, Ike, and who knows who else.

>>69069799
Lawsuit is off the table because she has nothing. It was all a bluff.

>>69069799
They never said they were being sued. They said Selen claimed she was being harassed in her legal document and threatened to sue

>>69062518
ya man, maybe you should go out and shoot some guns at people and declare war. it’ll really harden the squishy complacent masses

>>69070241
Being chinese should be a huge buff for killing yourself based on the liveleak videos I've seen

>>69067421
Embezzlement carries a sentence of between 2 and 10 years in Canada for amounts over $5k. I assume the actual sentence would depend on various factors including how much was stolen.
https://thecriminallawteam.ca/offence/criminal-embezzlement/
>Ctrl+F 334

>>69070736
They die of incompetence, its very chinese to be incompetent at killing yourself.

>>69067421
>The funny thing is, Anycolor technically still didn't lose money over this because the bills match
They lost a huge recurrent source of revenue though.

>>69070854
That would require anycolor to actually audit and press charges but, they won't due to japanese retardation, because it'll "tarnish their reputation further"

>>69070975
Fair point

>>69068285
it's always cute seeing retards who don't understand how business law works.

If she tries another attempt but the next time actually dies do you think the talents at niji will even feel bad?
Or will the be overjoyed that they won't have to deal with her anymore and were never her friends and always hated her and wanted her to kill herself from the very beginning and hope she still does, which is why they are still harassing her in hopes she follows through?

>>69071994
Of course they wouldn't, don't be ridiculous. But she won't. She's free and successful now.

>>69071928
it's very easy to tell who has never worked in a corporate environment

>>69026666
Japanese business man mindset is a hell of a drug

like legit this crap actually works on japanese people cause they are very sensitive to social pressure. And big corpos constantly get away with bullying people like this. But it really only works in japan...they tried it on non japs and here we are.

>>69028566
>request to leave on neutral terms
>after holding yourself hostage for a month, refusing to defuse the situation by explaining why the video was privated and using the growing confusion as a bargaining tool instead
they probably had the termination penned already, does this legal document shit even matter at all?

>>69071928
You faggots are really going out with the narrative that she needed a team of lawyers for an HR complaint and not that she was threatening to sue the company for harassment. Retards will now say it's against business law to rightfully fire someone after they threaten to sue you

>>69027732
Kyoto wasn’t firebombed, Secretary of War Henry Stimson specifically took it off the target list. Maybe you’re confusing it for Tokyo. Other than that, you’re not too far off the mark.

>>69070448
I mean it sounds like doki was just angling to get a proper graduation and they just repeatedly shot themselves in the foot instead.

>>69072862
>team
>implying

It's totally normal to cooperate with a lawyer in these cases, as HR is not your friend. Doubly so since Selen is absolutely incompetent at speaking JP, it would be in line to use a JP speaking lawyer to handle this, especially when she's recovering from a suicide attempt.

Fucking retard.

>>69062567
Are people actually using a game of Civilization to build rrats? Is this real?

>>69069227
Remember that people will blindly support a woman who is crying because it is a woman who is crying.

>>69073253
>Selen is absolutely incompetent at speaking JP
Holy shit, the document was in English otherwise Vox couldn't have read it. And why in the fuck would you need a lawyer to file a complaint unless you are completely incompetent and willing to waste money you apparently really need? This is the most retarded thing I've seen today

>>69073253
If I was an employer, I absolutely want the anon you're responding to because it sounds like they're incapable of defending themselves whatsoever, and the notion of doing so has never crossed their mind whatsoever

>>69064980
her attempts aren't real. she's a schizo BPD freak. faking suicide attempts for attention is BPD 101

>>69073773

NTA, but if the Japanese corporation has lawyers that primarily uses Japanese, and you wanted to discuss legal matters, you'd use a lawyer that would communicate on the same level and understanding as them, hense why Doki got an lawyer that can use Japanese
I think the point you're trying to make is radically different to what the other anon was talking about

>>69073773
>Holy shit, the document was in English otherwise Vox couldn't have read it.
Right, which why she needed a JP lawyer, because Niji's legal/HR team is Japanese, you fucking brainrotted moron..

>>69073778
There's a type of person who is just absolutely retarded when it comes to corporate settings. The kind of retard who thinks their boss is the best guy ever, all the while he's been stealing from their wages for fucking years.

>>69073253
She probably hired a goon of a lawyer that has gotten her into trouble. It has happened to people before, they can't wrangle their lawyer and they just make it worse but ensure their own job security. Negotiations are not supposed to be like pulling teeth. Dramabird is at fault for pushing it but her lawyer is probably not the greatest guy either.

>>69074215
It was real enough for a hospital to sign off on it, since it's in the document sent to Niji, as fucking confirmed by Vox, lmao.

>>69074382
Depends what kinda lawyer she's working with. if it's your typical ambulance chaser though, I'd absolutely believe it.

>>69074545
You've probably heard it happen before even with disputes among family. It's very hard to prove and sue your lawyer for helping you dig yourself a hole. But if you don't have your head screwed on they can lead you down a rabbit hole of bad negotiation strategies. Especially if you always stick to the same guy and you're his most important client. Many such cases of lawyers being fucking parasites.

>>69074440
post proof

>>69074382
Why would you assume that Doki's lawyer is the incompetent one, when she sounds fairly happy with them and the other party is fucking Nijisani?

>>69074916
NijiEN's pre-written statement on the matter.

>>69074336
>Right, which why she needed a JP lawyer, because Niji's legal/HR team is Japanese
When the fuck did she say she needed a JP lawyer? Why the fuck are you assuming a billion dollar company with it's own English branch doesn't have a lawyer that knows English? How are you still going with the rrat that Selen who is apparently broke as shit hired lawyers to help for a fucking HR complaint. You are genuinely a retard

>>69074916
Are you seriously claiming that Nijisanji conspired with Doki to help her fake her suicide attempt? Because out of all the dumb rrats I've heard today, that's fairly out there.

>>69030285
>LK
>Lumi Kaneko

Lemon whore has done it again!

>>69075007
>no proof
Thank you for conceding.

>>69075152
A note to say that she spent a week in a mental institution is not proof she tried to kill herself. BPDemons get locked up and sent on grippy sock vacations all the time. No suicide "attempt" necessary

>>69074980
>Public opinion is on my side, time to express to the public my lawyers don't know what they're doing, I fucked up and have no case

That's how you immediately lose the narrative

>>69075103
>When the fuck did she say she needed a JP lawyer? Why the fuck are you assuming a billion dollar company with it's own English branch doesn't have a lawyer that knows English?

Here you go, retard, from Doki's statement.

>>69075510
Cool. Now prove Selen was too retarded to file an HR complaint on her own and needed a team of lawyers to tell her what to complain about

>>69075229
Well, if you aren't willing to take NijiEN's word that she failed to solve sudoku, when it's entirely against their interest to back her story, what kind of proof do you need?

>>69075799
Easy. She's BPD and failed to kill herself twice.Of course she's too retarded to do that.

also
>team
keep fucking trying retard-kun, you'll get there someday.

>>69075856
Niji never said she tried to an hero, only that she was in a hospital of some sort. Why are you taking 2+2 and trying to make it 5?

>>69076002
In their recent scripted "A message from Nijisanji" black video, they literally said she attempted suicide, and that it was "sad and regrettable".

>>69075934
Yes, she totally only filed an HR complaint which is why Niji's lawyers are involved and why Selen was complaining about a breach of confidentiality.

>>69076550
>Selen was complaining about a breach of confidentiality.

HR filings are supposed to be confidential, yes. Keep trying moron, keep trying.

>>69075934
>Easy. She's BPD and failed to kill herself twice.Of course she's too retarded to do that.
Also, she has enough self-awareness to recognise that. Hence she's listening to her lawyer, while everyone at NijiEn is absolutely sure they can do what they want and nothing will go wrong.

>>69076100
The sewerslide is actually one of the few things NIJI didnt self report or leak, that was in a earlier tweet of hers.
It would be endlessly retarded to dispute or play down the attempt not even they would be so reta...

>vox said he was being recorded
>doki said she never recorded anything
who's lying?

>>69077742
She admitted to making the recording already.

>>69077742
Not what happend, Vox says he wasnt sure what was recorded and sperged out in fear.
She said it was just a test recording for a collab, that was mentioned in the document against better judgerment because of her mental at the time.

>>69076799
So why was the document sent to Niji's lawyers and not HR? HR files are considered private property of the company so the company could show them to whoever they want. Why would Doki be crying about how illegal the company showing their files to whoever they want is? This rrat is dying

>>69078085
So she was test recording for a collab while talking to Vox about the AR cancellation, he talks about how he knows staff gives special treatment to Luxiem, she keeps this and later on uses it against Niji in a legal document then blames her betrayal on bad mental health. Got it

>>69060368
Are you kidding me? Dude is a douchebag.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJgZLdGo6Pg
He also made Enna kneel for the national anthem for calling him a fingerlicking fried chicken nigger, which she is perfectly in her rights to do as a gamer.

>>69078986
forget HR, this was part of a lawyer to lawyer interaction about neutral graduation
>>69079403
nobody has any idea whats in the recording except doki

Now that I think about it. If she was bullied so hard and wanted to forget everything and move on why is she naming her fans dragoons and why is she still having her trophy mark?

>>69079841
whats that question? do you think she wants to forget about the fans and herself? do you think thats what drove her melty?
dont be a tard, you havent done any thinking

>>69069961
god reimu is such a dumb asshole...

>>69026666
Daily reminder that Dookie has BPD and you shouldn't trust what she's saying:
https://www.brightquest.com/borderline-personality-disorder/borderline-personality-disorder-and-paranoid-ideation/
>During times of stress, which may be caused by interpersonal conflict or a lack of self-confidence when facing personal or professional challenges, a person with BPD may suddenly feel surrounded by menace or danger. They may suspect that others—even people they would normally trust—are conspiring against them, or that mysterious forces may somehow be oppressing them.

>>69080099
All vtubers are insane by default.
Do you have bpd too or can you accurately measure the response and actions we have publicly seen from NIJI?

>>69079747
If she wanted to neutrally graduate, she probably would have been able to if she hadn't sent a legal document full of accusations to her company. She basically pulled a gun on them. Is she stupid or is this fake?

>>69079987
If she isn't taking her "I wanted to kill myself" seriously and just continues to do everything to farm more money regardless of how it comes off I am not going to take her "I wanted to kill myself" seriously either. That woman is a professional wallet milker.

>>69079747
>nobody has any idea whats in the recording except doki

Vox said he knows it's something about the AR live cancellation and favoritism in EN. Vox has read the document so he knows the context. Vox says he doesn't remember exactly what was said but knows the gist.

Doki says she never purposely recorded Vox as evidence but that she did use the recording in the legal document then blamed bad mental health. This board is a Niji hate board so they will ignore Doki admitting to fucking up

>>69080296
kek they haven't decided on that narrative yet

>>69080317
allegedly the timeline is
>I want to graduate in peace
>long silence
>lawyer tells her they could send that document they typed up to clarify situation
>2 hours later termination notice drops

>>69080387
Thats a very cynical interpretation, maybe streaming is just a happier time than not and going back to normalcy is a good therapy goal

>>69080099
But somehow anything came from NIji is much worst even with Doki BPD handicap.

>>69080099
DramaBird does as DramaBird is.

>>69080099
>>69080099
>>69080099
the fact that dokitroons try to bury time and time again

>>69081468
your jewish tricks don't don't anymore, didn't work on kanye and won't work here

>>69081468
A pic of a 4year old twitterbio saying BPD, which cant be verifed, is plenty buried already.

>>69028566
Hi Millie (or whichever one of you fucks)

>>69080793
The timeline is missing a lot of shit. It probably looks more like

>MV drama happens
>Niji Livers question why the fuck Selen was sperging out and if she was alright
>Selen almost kills herself after this
>Niji tries to contact Selen while she's in the hospital for whatever reason
>Selen's lawyers give the document to Niji lawyers. Purpose of the document is unknown
>Niji terminates Selen after this

>>69080317
>want to negotiate your contract
>hire a lawyer to communicate between yourself and the company
Please, for the love of god anon, once you grow up and get a job, if there's ever a dispute between yourself and your employer, LAWYER UP. Don't be this retarded.

>>69081468
Bury this in your ass like Hex's dildo.
t. Dokitroon

>>69082009
I only posted the parts of the time line relevant to the question.
Mine fits nicely inbetween line 4 and 5.

>>69082009
Also it seems NIJI dont have any english lawyers on retainer and all correspondence was in moonrunes for some reason.

>>69081763
>anonymous shitposter claims to know the inner workings of nijisanji en management
IT'S HAPPENING!!!11
>honest factual screenshot of real information is posted
F-F-FAKE!!!

>>69082396
she isn't high functioning though

>>69080099
good thing I'm judging doki on her actions and kurosanji on theirs, and kurosanji is in deep verifiable bad-decision shit even if doki was a schizophrenic lunatic

>>69082842
>>honest factual screenshot of real information is posted
you mean the shitpost that doesnt know the difference of bpd and being schizo?

>>69027532
Worst thing about this whole situation is how this faggot is going to get away scot-free and on the way to poachville

>>69080099
genuinely don't care. Every single woman on the internet claimed to have BPD a few years ago, it was the autism of its time

>>69026666
t. Satan

All I know is that if all the talents come together to browbeat against a single talent, despite whatever grievances they may hold no matter how legitimate, it's never a good look for the company. Nijisanji EN was in the wrong here.

>>69083014
>no you see she has bpd okay but it doesn't count because she has high functioning bpd the kind where you only ironically commit sucidie multiple times a month

>>69027532
he's the one pretending to be black, right

Fat ugly fujos suffering so much in doxsite comment section, pure kino.

>>69083166
Anon, have you seen the massive rratking they cooked up? You cant swipe that away with random claims of mental illness, NIJI is a shit employer and the evidence for that has been piling up for years.

>>69062518
>This is what happens when there hasn't any actual wars or shit that threaten their lives
>that footage where UA guy cleans trench from ruskies and have Marine Hag sticker on his rifle

>>69082144
Selen supposedly wanted to graduate. Multiple livers say that people are able to graduate whenever they want. Has she tried just asking to graduate?

Vox and Selen were planning to graduate while holding hands and making out, why the fuck would she try to blackmail Niji into letting her graduate with a legal document claiming harassment instead of just graduating

>>69026746
yup, nijiniggers still deepthroating the boot, i love how they keep comparing holo to any of their big ass drama nitpicking every litle thing and now they cant compare it to anything lmao they are full damage control blaming their ex talents now they forgot about holo, not gonna lie has been pretty entertaining and we got rid of nijiniggers on other threads, they are too focused on their current drama

>>69083166
She could be a skinwalking schizo demon and it doesn't change that the corpo itself has done nothing but shit the bed at every possible time they could take an action

>>69083609
>Multiple livers say that people are able to graduate whenever they want
Words
>Scheduled and spaced Niji graduations
Actions

>>69028566
so is her fault they silence her for a month and then fire her without even talling her with a 3 page document of them throwing her under the bus? is bad that she release her derense statement and pursues legal? nijinigger you need to know how real life works, you dont sit there watching a company frame you

>>69081239
>>69081468

>>69083695
the "friendly talks about graduating between friends" part slots into the timeline way earlier that the an hero

>>69082842
>she isn't high functioning though
Way more functional than whole Anycolor Corp rumao

>>69083473
It's not even illness, it's fucking disorder.

>>69026666
they got too cocky after ziaon and assumed they could just terminate anyone and shit all over them with facts and logic. Ironically the more evidence they put out about how nijisanji is in the right and selen is in the wrong, the more they end up enraging fans because it turns out that even if it's completely true, nobody in the english vtubing community cares if she violated their internal policies.

>>69082396
Are you taking these from the self-helping books you sisters use? lmao

>>69083910
good context but no proof needed, it's obvious enough on sight that they are discord faggots

>>69084068
you are discussing semantics with a ESL
me
willfully ignoring the actual point of what im saying, I guess

>>69063078
Enna left her chink side and adopted a jp mother. She is forgiven.

accurate representation and summary of what is going on so far
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6PxRwgjzZw

>>69051119
They were thinking what's the best way I can hurt this bitch. The timing was intentional. And it was genuinely psycho behavior.

>>69026666
It's insane just how much worse that fucking video made everything. Elira in a matter of seconds went from "she's probably just the nice friend of the bullies" to widely being seen as potentially the worst of all of them and the main reason nijiEN has been going downhill. Vox literally did nothing but pick up a fuck ton of antis while Ike just looked like a clueless third wheel. They literally could have just let the CEO video release later as it did then put out a statement on the official twitter that problem managers have been removed and they will be hiring new staff and doing better for EN going forward blah blah blah.

>>69029293
I’d sooner believe this is Scarle or anyone other than Luca, including Rosemi. Luca is not this eloquent. He tried to do a cover with Elira and has liked Elira porn in the past, it’s clear he idolizes her.

Believe the GUR

>>69084922
Amazing isn't it? Riku did a deep bow and all that shit for basically fucking nothing. All because of that stupid as fuck video and the following NijiEN tweet. The fire of the drama was going out. Yet they just dropped fucking napalm on it for no reason.

>>69027532
What is he gonna do on his graduation with the current shitstorm anyway? Is Scarle even gonna show up? Just say "thank god is over" and terminate the stream at this point kek

>>69042183
He forgot that law in Japan work is very different from the west and Japan doesn't have any agreements with other countries. So a lawsuit that originates in Canada targeted at another canadian, Elira, that is currently living in Japan is going through the bureacratic analogue of Dante's Inferno

>>69086494
>Japan doesn't have any agreements with other countries
wrong

>>69086717
I meant in terms of law, giving out people wanted in outher countries, shit like that. Did you not see how Mori was complaining, that she has to pay taxes both in USA and Japan because they don't have a tax agreement?

>>69086931
firstly, japan has a extradition act, that allows any country if requirements are met
secondly, if this was a case to begin with, it would be a civil case, not a criminal case, so nobody would get extradited in the first place.

>>69068807
>bullying, ect

>>69026666
I guess both have something in common, even if one of the side did a corporate suicide instead of actual suicide.

>>69083824
You have to prove that Niji livers aren't deliberately spacing out and scheduling their own graduations to not hurt company morale. They probably could just abruptly graduate like Vesper and Magni

>>69069799
Niji EN and Anycolor are two different entities at this point. Dokibird is literally in the middle of settlement with ANYCOLOR right now, and says this out of her own goodwill so the parent corporation won't bleed more money - that's a nice freebie from her during the negotiations. You gotta consider Anycolor's view of this matter - they are a bunch of japs which don't know English at all, and suddenly someone needs to wrangle the situation. Who has fucking passwords and logins? Who is responsible for sending out messages, controlling the content on Twitter and such? This wasn't aimed at Anycolor at all, but at rogue elements which might want to act out of their position. This is not a fucking highschool, sit down and keep quiet AND DON'T MAKE SHIT WORSE while adults sit down for a tea and have a talk. Dokibird wants some money, Riku wants to get this shit resolved in quiet manner. Heavy ass bromming happens later.

>>69068434
Anon, firing someone for filing an HR complaint is itself a MASSIVE LEGAL INFRACTION regardless of the validity of the complaint in any sane country. It literally does not matter what the complaint says when you start firing people for HR concerns

sinking out your yacht for dokizzler
you're so low blow
you're so dragoon tax
i just wanna be your oshi

>>69052205
They were not wrong.

>>69089303
More retards claiming it was an HR complaint and not a threat to open a lawsuit. These retards never learn

>>69027532
The best part is when his real ID was leaked. The sheer amount of people going "Wait he's not black???" lmao

>>69088723
Mika has talked about the graduation queue, other livers have talked about the queue on PL accounts, much like the skinwalking of twitter accounts you have to have your head in the sand to not understand this at this point

>>69027732
These posts make /vt/ worth it desu

>>69091654
Mika graduated two months after she announced she would. Pomu graduated a week after she announced it. Kyo announced that he would graduate in two weeks.

There is no graduation queue. They're deliberately choosing when they graduate to not step on toes or ruin morale

>>69026666
They want to prove that she's the bully, please understand

>>69061605
>This was all planned out for maximum pity and maximum profits.
Of course it was. She's still a Chinese woman after all. But you can't deny she's in the right, simply by the fallout from that clusterfuck of a company.

>>69052205
Ironic that they considered Americans the savages after what they did in nanking