/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Nah its organic but its like both are busy girls so you can't have them colab as easily as say JP can. Sometimes its up to their schedules to make something happen.

>>6897613
>both are busy girls so you can't have them colab as easily as say JP can.

>>6897667
Well yeah. Holohouse, duh.

>>6897667

>>6897667
How come you posed this thread as a question when you obviously already believe it was corporate?

>>6897433
Organic. Im actually surprised it didnt start getting pushed by management after seeing how popular it got.

>>6897807
cucked by moona idk anyone who even still ships these two

>>6897888
>cucked by moona
Miko found a better waifu sorry rabbitcucks

>>6897433
Real until Gura took a nasty shit in her bathroom and didn't wipe or flush

>>6897951
either way the ship is dead

>>6898062
>ship is dead
>they're living together and married
ogey

They like each other but Gura likes Ame way more than the other way around. Also, Ame is trying to build herself up and look less like an accessory to Gura.

Gura's numbers continue to haunt her.

>So was their relationship-

Don't know, don't care, glad the ship has died, fuck Gurame schizos, hope they actually aren't falling out as friends tho, that'd suck I guess

>>6897433
The audience killed it. That and ame’s autistic stubbornness.

>>6898151
One would have thought that being the inheritor to Coco's asacoco would make her not think that however....

>>6897433
It was organic like PekoMoona.

Mori is Gura's new sidekick / cumsleeve

>>6898225
>That and ame’s autistic stubbornness.
Is it not an entertainers job to give the fans what they want? Why is she such a selfish bitch?

>>6897433
Management was too busy forcing Takamori to force Gurame. Gurame was natural, Ame killed it because shipfags couldn't keep their autism to themselves.

>>6898431
She's giving me exactly what I want, which are more solo streams instead of collabs.
Everytime she collabs with Gura, the collab is still great, even if it takes time. See recently E3, Mario, etc.
They're good friends and thats all that matters. Anything else is just schizo rant.

I don't know who specifically, but when EN goes to Japan for 3D, somebody is getting licked.

A Way Out was up there with peak Game Grumps and OneyPlays and is still probably the best EN content. I feel like they had/have really good platonic or almost sisterly chemistry but adding in the shipping element made it weird and forced. To me it seems like Ame is kind of uncomfortable with the performative, public aspect, like being on display and having to behave a certain way to satisfy the schizos and all that. That's just speculation, though.

Mori is Gura's new sidekick. It helps both sides since Gura likes collabing and Mori gets a lot of new subscribers, and she's not ashamed. Calligula is great.

Gura chose Mori to be her new partner cause she doesn't care about looking like a sidekick, she wants to just hang out with her bro

>>6898504
The entirety of JP is going to rape gura as soon as she gets off the plane.

She’s just stubborn and even though she’s one of the top vtubers she still thinks she’ll be labeled as just Gura’s wife. She nuked a potential duo like Okakoro because of jealousy and stubbornness

>>6898672
>jealousy
>Ame, of all people
Nah

>>6897433
iirc it went something like this
>Gura and Ames roomates were friends not best friends but friends
>Once they got chosen to be in EN they both got really chummy since they knew each other so why not try and use that chemistry
>Gura starting getting bigger and bigger and her fanbase saw Ame as nothing more than "Guras friend"
>Ame didnt like that, has even said as much in a QnA, so shes trying to branch out herself before she collabs with Gura like she used to

That being said its not like they dont collab at all and one could argue they do the most of all of EN (Mori and Kiara a close second) and they also have the most varied in collabs, the podcast they did, the E3 stream etc etc.

So it was really organic its just now Ame is just getting the feel for eveything and is more comfortable with Gura around.

>>6898431
Based Ame not pandering to her annoying newfag fans

>>6898431
Gurame shippers are cumbuds who want Ame to be Gura's pet, just a prop for her to bounce off of. Teamates would rather have collabs with Gura be a rare thing, an occasional fun diversion. Ame is doing what HER fans want, not somebody else's.

Gura sniffed Ame's pits while she was half asleep. Ame woke up and it has been weird between them ever since. Gura was also horrible at hiding what she was doing, since she was grinding a pillow at the same time as she was pressing her nose into Ame's prickly pit. Ame tried to make a joke, to smooth over the weird atmosphere
>Yoo I uh.. for a moment I thought it was Bubba... haha...
Gura didnt take the hint, she was practically frozen, still computing the smell and texture. All of her attention was focused on her rhinencephalon, so she didnt even notice that she was wetting Ame's pillow, which was still firmly pushing into her crotch.
>Can I have a taste?
This prompted Ame to basically yell "NO", waking Gura from her lustful stupor. Seeing her slowly realise the gravity of the situation, Ame took pity on the miserable little dyke and her disgusting smell fetish. Gura was caught between pure shock and holding back tears.
>Let's just not talk about it, alright? Imma go walk the dog, wanna come with?
Gura shook her head and just mumbled
>Breakfast...
Ame took the hint and replied
>Sure, the kitchen's yours, just dont make a... mess.
Her eyes wandered towards the wet spot on her favourite pillow.
>And uh.... just throw the pillow into the laundry bin once you're done...
She quickly threw on some sweatpants and a hoodie and left the room, to leave Gura and let her calm down. She swore to never bring this up again.

>>6898870
Mori and kiara have more collabs overall

>>6898880
Exactly, at least I think this way too.
I like Gura and their collabs are ALWAYS good (theres no bad gurame collab) but I also heavily prefer solo streams and Ame branching out to JPs and other genmates.
I can't wait for ametori (next week I think?), their last collab was one of the best in EN from a comedic standpoint.

AmeSame shipper here, they just click flawlessly. you can tell they're close away from work. And i don't care if gura wants to hang with mori. s' all good. you fucking weirdos.

>>6899051
Based

>>6897433
They're friends but I never saw them as a romantic pairing at all. Shippers gonna ship I guess.

>>6899051
Anyone who ships, for any reason, has no right to call anybody else fucking weirdos, anon.

>>6898870
>so shes trying to branch out herself before she collabs with Gura like she used to
This part's just speculation, by the way. Ame's collab policy follows two undeniable rules, anything else is speculation:
>If someone asks her, she'll do it
>If she's the one asking, then it's whenever she feels like it, and it's rare that she asks because she prefers to go solo (and the one she's asked most often is Gura)

That QnA took place on Dec 10, and her next few collabs with Gura (not counting the Die Hard watchalong which had already been scheduled for Dec 12) were on Dec 26, Jan 18, Jan 31, and Feb 12, then finally a longer break (with no obvious reason as to why). That's a lot for someone intentionally "branching out" so as to not look like someone's "sidekick." In addition, keep in mind that Ame was not addressing Gura's fanbase even though they were probably the ones sending those questions. She was expressing that sentiment to her own fanbase, because they're the ones that actually matter. Gura's fanbase is massive and most will only ever care about Gura no matter what Ame does.

People want to look for an external factor to blame for lack of weekly Gura/Ame collabs like in October (because, if we're being honest, they're obsessed) and the comment from the QnA is an easy out. But I highly doubt there is any ulterior motive behind high or low frequency of collabs for anyone. Last week when Kiara was creaming herself over Ame she mentioned that there's no particular reason she hasn't collabed much with Ame even though she loves her. There's no reason to assume it was any different when Gura and Ame went 3 months without any, or when Ina and Ame went 3+ months without any, and so on, with the possible exception of scheduling issues when one party is known to be very busy like Ina or Mori are. It just happens sometimes.

Reminder that the girls all discussed shipping shit before and all openly loath faggots who try to start shipping wars in their name. Not to mention this implies they see each other only as friends too.

>>6897820
He didn’t post that, I did. I’m asking a genuine question cause when they first started collabs these two were really something.

>>6898931
Based!

This thread is missing all the schizos saying they hate each other, what the fuck happened?

>>6899532
Good info here. I get the impression Ame rarely asks anyone for collabs, Gura or otherwise because like you said, she prefers to fly solo. And just like in real life, when person A always has to be the one to invite person B, and person B never really reciprocates, then those relationships usually fall through. Or in this case, collabs stop happening.

>>6900602
Ame told Gura off by asking others for collabs, knowing Ame rarely initiates collabs herself and Gura was told to branch out it led to the schizo rrats that they hate each other. Pekomiko is a weirder situation compared to this however

>>6900602
Ame anti is in a heavy recline recently. Not that there's much to complain about, but right now there's usually an anti thread after Ame rescheduled the Mario stream.

>>6898524
Ame is uncomfortable with it but knows how to play along. Mori, otoh, hates having to be teetee or fake laugh or anything entertainment related. Some think it's based but with the kind of job she has, it's cringe to just sit there like a zombie and mumble responses when the other person's excitement level is at an 8/10.

>>6900690
what about ame's collabs with her mama, mel, roboco to name a few?

>>6900602
The Ame antis were counting on the Mythbreakers stream for new material, but Watoto was hilarious and now they have no idea what the fuck to do with themselves.

>>6897433
Gura loves Ame
Ame hates Gura because she's successful

>>6900955
all initiated by the other party, the only collabs Ame asked for that she revealed was Don't Starve Together, Journey To The Savage Planet, and her upcoming collab with Kiara

>>6900602
because it turned out to be true so they moved on to another topic
you do not see schizos saying the world is round

>>6901030
I see

>>6901030
The Mario Party collab too.

>>6900955
Mel and Roboco are pretty outgoing and have been interacting with EN a lot. I would not be surprised if it was them that approached her first. Mama was probably something management set up.

>>6897433
*ahem*
The OkaKoro of EN

>>6901037
And here you go, and nope, Gura is always the same, even in today's collab she called Ame's character cute.

>>6901091
literal scraps compared to the beginning of the year

>>6901048
Yeah, there's a few more I'm forgetting cause I know she did the christmas minecraft collab with Gura to cheer her up but Ame is really socially awkward when asking for collabs even with people she knows. She's also a lone wolf, no one knows why there was that 3 month gap one time but at least Gurame isn't in a weird position like Pekomiko.

>>6901133
Gura streams less in general & has a huuuuge backlog she is stressed about.

>>6898151
>Gura likes Ame way more than the other way around
You don't know these two.
funnyOhahaWfunnyOhahafunny was a member of funnyZhahaAfunnyWhahaAfunny's old discord. Ame met her hero and became best friends with her.

>>6901359
>funnyOhahaWfunnyOhahafunny
>funnyZhahaAfunnyWhahaAfunny

>>6898931
Holy moly, thats hot

For the love of god, just watch streams so we can avoid making threads like this and constantly trying to make it seem like Ame doesn't like Gura.
She said this not even that long ago about Gura
https://youtu.be/9qT_PstD4ns?t=6333

Gura literally said
>l love Calli so much
>I luv u too Kiara
>Ina is my wife

it's a kayfabe jokes. wake the fuck up you mentally ill yuritards.

Pay attention to Ame's content.

Notice the lack of collabs of any kind?
Ame is for the most part independent and dislikes working with others. They're absolutely friends though.

On Gura's side, Gura wants to get more into music production, which both Kiara and Mori have ample experience with, and Gura had none to start. So Gura latched onto them a lot more recently, especially Mori because they're both edgelords at heart.

>>6901888
so true, ina is my wife

>>6901841
Give me a time stamp.

>>6897433
>forced by corporate
No, the dipshit fanbases forced it. Then it got to the point of discomfort for both of them. They're more or less like a pair of sisters instead.

>>6897433
completely organic but unfortunately, also one-sided. that, or ame wants it to look like it's one-sided and gura is having trouble not spilling the beans.

>>6901888
Gura went the extra mile like dedicating songs to Ame, even in member stream.

>>6898018
I like this goblinoid tier rrats. They never fail to make me laugh. Keep doing God's work, anon!

>>6902104
it's all kayfabe, none of it is real

>>6898117
Doesn't peko live with her mom?
That would be weird for the couple if you really believe this.

>>6902160
Even Kiara & Mori didn't put on kayfabe during unarchived member karaoke.

>>6902008
it has a timestamp, dummy. She spends like 2 full minutes trying to describe Gura in one word and "the best" was the first one that slipped out of her mouth before she realized it was two.

They're friends obviously and they have great chemistry, they could have been a great duo but sadly the obnoxious shippers and Ame not wanting to be seen as Gura's sidekick ruined the chance. It's my opinion, but it could be learned from the likes of KanaCoco when it comes to this situation I guess
>>6902008
1:45:33
The embed doesn't work for you?

I wonder if/when people realized after the "no sidekick things" they actually collab more. Including the Minecraft collabs, which have the best shipping moments for them.

>Be less entertaining than Gura
>Get called Gura's sidekick because of this
>Instead of recognizing your flaws and working to improve, sperg out instead
>REEEEEEE AM NOT SIDEKICK REEEEE
>Gura will never be Ame's sidekick because of this

How does she do it?

>>6902884
>>6902805
Well, never, apparently.

>>6897433
It was organic but Ame get caught up in the "I don't want to play second fiddle" deal so they probably don't actually care about each other as much now.

I imagine the people who are obsessed with shipping these two have never had a close friendship in their entire life.

>>6901919
>Gura had none to start
If you know about HER, then you'll know she has plenty of "experience". Jokes aside, Kiss Your Homies > Reflect.

>>6897433
the time amelia is streaming, gura is being fucked by her bf. please understand

>>6897433
>their relationship forced
>almost 0 streams together outside of gen collabs.
bad bait

>>6897433
Mori forced them to be together so /u/ schizos would be distracted and leave her alone to hunt manlets in peace.

>>6898524
>To me it seems like Ame is kind of uncomfortable with the performative, public aspect, like being on display and having to behave a certain way to satisfy the schizos and all that.
u wot M8 have you watched Ame collab with the JP members? Since they're communication is so limited Ame actively wants to be cutesy and teetee with them instead of try to get something going.

>>6903371
Funny shark has been single and damaged since breaking it off with a certain tea-sipping bad-toothed fandubber

>>6903863
Internet relationship across the world will never work in the first place

>>6903573
That's really not the same though. People don't have any expectations when Ame is all teetee with like Roboco for example because "Ame + Roboco" isn't really a ship that schizos have any investment in. But people are extremely invested in Gurame and expect certain things and scrutinize all their interactions.

>>6897613
>le they don't have time to collab meme
They are busy doing what?? Streaming?
I guarantee you the JPs have way more packed schedules than Gura and Ame. They don't collab because they don't feel like it. If they liked each other, they would collab more.

>>6899051
>Shipper
Unironically kill yourself. You people ruin everything.

>>6899051
>Shipper
Unironically stay alive. You people improve everything.

>>6904718
it's like you're fucking deaf, or have the attention span of a goldfish and can't sit and listen for a single minute, fucking rrat https://youtu.be/9qT_PstD4ns?t=6333

>>6904718
Ame has several cover songs, more than 500 clippers applicants, dozens of gaming permissions, charity goals, preparation for the next charity, permissions & preparations for her creative streams, & calibrating the 3D models.
I don't follow Gura, but I follow Ollie & she said Gura is busy too.

>>6899051
i hope Gura sees this thread and actively avoids collab even more
pretty good chance i would say

>>6897433
Organic but shipfag Teamates made Ame super self conscious.

>>6898431
Because she's a basic twitch bitch. That's really about it.

>>6898880
>Gurame shippers are cumbuds
Ok so why does ggg hate ship fags and the ame thread sperg out when either of them mention or even talk to the other?
Cope harder that Teamates are by far the worst fanbase.

>>6897433
They're actually married and live together. You know "Bubba"? That's just Ame's codename for Gura.

>>6905207
>[gura barking in the background]

>>6905207
White girls fuck dogs

>>6897433
It was organic until Ame had to make it about not wanting to be "Gura's friend" for some dumbass reason. I get not wanting to feel like you are riding off others success or like you are stuck in a sidekick role but none of her fans saw her that way so it's dumb that she is actively avoiding her "friend" over this stupid shit.

Ame should care less what others see her as and just play games with Gura if they really are friends.

>>6905385
They collab more after that statement, anon. It was until Ame became too good in Minecraft for Gura & Gura can't keep up with Apex, they rarely collab.

>>6905565
Anon do your English reps.
Also they haven't played games together in 6 months now......

>>6905617
Sorry, too much watoto.
Mario collab is fairly recent.

>>6905651
Multi person collabs don't count and you know that.

>>6905697
E3 watchalong is still fairly recent too. Or non-game collabs don't count too?

>>6905723
Well seeing as I said they haven't played games together in 6 months.... No I would assume that E3 doesn't count.

>>6897433
>>6901087
Fair comparison for outside viewers. When I was first getting into Hololive I knew jack shit about Ame or Okayu and you can say I saw them as accessories to their much larger friend, but when I dove deeper I ended up enjoying them way more.

>>6903154
Agreed. I see a lot of my friendships in them, which is great to watch. I'd go as far as saying they're like sister and as far as I'm aware neither have real life sisters, so that's cute

>>6902188
Pekomama is Miko voice acting.

Ame got sick of obnoxious cumsharts (the worst fanbase in history), that's all. They still hang out, it's just off-stream.

>>6897433
the most natural ship is Ame and Me actually

>>6907404
Cope