/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>68936685
>HoloEN yabs
>she mentioned a MALE on stream
>she doesn't stream!
>she streams!
>she liked a tweet!

HoloEN rrat peddlers are malnourished now.

>>68936685
Thing is, Yagoo has more balls than that joke of a boss in krsj

>>68936685
Kronii still gets weekly bump limit threads about year old drama

>>68936685
Literally just shut up and let the drama die down
The reason for selen yab become so big is because nijiEN management keep doubling down

Nijisanji yabs:
>scandals
>harassment
>suicide attempts
>lawsuits

Hololive yabs:
>Gura, err, (frantically flips note) didn't stream

>>68936685

Mori and Kroniis shit is fucking ancient and after Mori defended Fuwamoco from that artist who was trying to shit on them after debut a lot of people moved on from shitting on her.

Meanwhile the Ninji stuff was always on going in the background since way back when Yugo the Tranny vtuber graduated.

>>68936685
Unicorns saved HoloEN from Mori, Ollie and Kroniii. Without them bullying the fuck out of those E-celeb dick riding hoes HoloEN could have easily been Nijisanji 2.0. Make sure to thank a Unicorn when you see em

>>68936685
There's an unwritten code forged by years of idolshit that more or less controls them.
Nijisanji is pure anarchy

>>68937579
>Make sure to thank a Unicorn when you see em
Their mother's bedroom is upstairs and it would be too much of a walk to go to the basement after I am done there.

>>68936979
It never gets old.

We need Mori to release another song about cancel culture

>>68936685
>Mori
Drama subsided once everybody realised she is just autistic and actually has a big heart
>Kronii
Drama subsided once everybody realised she is just autistic and has big tits

>>68936685
Well you know what they say, no news is good news.

>>68937298
>Mori defended Fuwamoco from that artist who was trying to shit on them
Source?

>>68941513
look up Joshua Taipale

>>68941719
Oooh right that guy, I didn't knew Mori stood up for them though, very nice of her.

>>68937579
I'll be sure to dehorn them and stab it right back in their skull to see if I can fix the retardation

>>68941513
Quicky:
>Artist who made music with mori shits on FUWAMOCO for asking fans to make something for 'free'
>Mori unfollows said artist, and stops using the song they made together as an outro

A bit more detail:
FUWAMOCO was asking for fan art, made with the intention that is fan made and requesting established artists to not step in the ring. Artist didn't like how FUWAMOCO of big company can't pay an artist. That is all. Mori didn't ever publicly defend it, just unfollowed and removed it from her outro.

>>68937579
Shut up bruh.

>>68941969
>Mori didn't ever publicly defend it, just unfollowed and removed it from her outro.
That's why I didn't catch that then, it's been a while since I followed Mori closely. Thanks for the QRD

>>68936685
HoloEN actually vets their talents, and when their managers got too retarded they were replaced.

>>68941952
Make it very, VERY painful. So much they'll beg for death.

>>68936685
HoloEN mastered the art of snuffing out drama in its crib.

>>68941969
How did Mori go from drinking lean and feeding trolls to being a competent professional?

>>68936685
holo always has projects/concerts/etc going on, it promotes comradery and everyone is busy enough that they want everyone to be in good terms with everyone else, collabs are structured so you don't have cliques happening live apart from small things like the rat and irys but they also make an effort that it doesn't get in the way of other people
everyone in holo has at least one talent they excel at, even the lowest numbers, meaning they are still a positive to interact with
niji livers just mostly do their own thing and press live, no rules when it comes to dropping by other's streams, not enough opportunities for the thousands of livers niji employs so everything is competitive for spots in projects/sponsorships/etc
everyone in niji is a random person talking to a phone camera, their entire worth is their ccv

>>68936685
HoloEN learns from its mistakes. After the missteps with Council/Promise, they put out a new gen full of yab-free non-controversial girls.
NijiEN on the other hand...they don't learn from their mistakes.

>>68942422
Advent debut. She finally had other professionals to feed off from.

>>68942321
I'm trying to fix them. I'm not a sadist.

>>68942488
Advent made me like Mori, unironically. Her collabs with FWMC and Bijou are always good and she even sounds better now, it's crazy.

>>68936685
There are two main real reasons:

-Middle management:
Holo lucked out with their middle managers. Except Omegalol who was kicked out.
Lots of NijiEN's issues are due to inner management (including Noor, the NFT ones, the new ones, the talents becoming managers)
Phase got saved early on by Muumi, confirmed several times.
Many other small corpos like tsunderia or cyberlive exploded due to inner management.
Idol's manager fucking talents, etc.

-Quality of personality:
Despite Mori being a wigger and Ollie a slut, noone in there is as vile as the Enna/Elira/Millie clique, so no infighting beyond vaague gura-ame early on banter and such things.
From the JP side only Rushia was vile.

>>68936685
Because hololive is a somewhat competent company, unlike nijisanji, or at least its En branch

>>68941842
she unfollowed him and stopped using his music in her intro

>>68942011
are you lost nijicuck?

>>68942488
She's been like that for years, friend

>>68942695
>or at least its En branch
Every overseas branch eventually goes to shit, at this point I have to assume main is just as bad and it's just easier to gaslight JPs into living with it because hellish working conditions are considered normal.

>>68936685
Almost like when Hololive tells its talents to wait the talents listen.

>>68942422
if you watched streams, you'd know, but in short, when she saw some of her longer time fans call out her response to that cuck image as immature and saw people shitting on her fans rather than her, it sobered her up
she's been bringing up how big and silly of a mistake that was a lot since then and how it'll permanently stain her record, so she wants to work extra hard for anyone that sticks around regardless

They know how and when to stfu

>>68936685
" How to make fire under water guide book for idiots "
Written by KuroSanji

>>68936685
Maybe THOROUGHLY vetting talents had its merits. Jap-sama, I kneel.

>>68936774
holoEN's biggest yab is mori's music

>>68936685
Because a big chunk of the fanbase are willing to call them out on their bullshit AND fans are very vocal on their complaints towards the company too

>>68943252
Lol. Lmao even

>>68942422
she's always been like this when it comes to other talents and stuff like art/music usage, she's just quiet about it because she correctly doesn't mention it on stream or twitter and if its not mentioned on stream or on twitter it didn't happen

>>68936685
You could say that Cover is able to only recruit jab-deflecting menheras.

Truth is, I just think
>They have better talent management that can deescalate tension between the girls.
>Gives them lots of leeway in taking breaks and emotional support so they don't feel socially isolated from help.
>They actually remunerate them way better than AnyColor does, preventing them from being overwhelmed by stress of working their ass of to actually make a profit from their career.

The one HoloEN chubba who has graduated was Sana, and she did so over unaoidable health concerns.

>>68949490
I think it's mostly because everyone in the company treats hololive as a proper job
They actually do have managers frequently breathing down their necks, to the point where often enough you see girls messaging their managers on stream and wait for an answer.
hardly ever you see a holo going on a "better ask forgiveness than permission" route, probably because they get that shit drilled in during training.
The chain of command takes their job very seriously, and it reflects on talents behavior.

>>68949490
de-escalating things is an important step. the girls that don't get along just avoid each other in holo live. they might throw some stink eye as they pass in the hallway but that's it

>>68936685
Mori's moved past her "own the haters" phase and Kronii was just really retarded.

>>68936685
Waiting for confirmation of Cover emplying minors

>>68936979
Salty unicorn meat still getting beating?

>>68950478
>I think it's mostly because everyone in the company treats hololive as a proper job
No doubt it helps that Cover actually pays them.

>>68936685
Because 1, they are nerds that just want to have fun
2 because there has been fostered a strong sense of camaraderie among hololive from day 1
3 They focus more on their actual work than shit talking one another
4 Over time management have learned from their past mistakes and made improvements

>>68937189
Just wait for April

>>68942960
Based Mori? I can't believe I just said that.

>>68942597
>Advent made me like Mori
Same. And this is coming from someone who didn't really like her before.

Kronii was going menhera on PL a couple weeks ago, but nothing happened.

>>68936685
bench.png

>>68952812
I'll bite. What's in April

>>68937579
>Make sure to thank a Unicorn when you see em
I would but they never leave their house.

>>68936685
I wish Cali was fuckin' gone. but no, instead he get an endless supply of shit grade music

>>68954247
NIJISEETHE

>>68942597
My first exposure to Mori was when I watched some very early Myth vods, and she was an absolute bitch, like some highschool girl bullying her gay friend. After that I just never took an interest in watching her.
Years later I see her in a collab with Biboo, and she's being a wholesome and respectable senpai. Night and day difference from my first impression.

>>68942441
>collabs are structured
collabs are also free in holo aren't they? it always baffled me that livers had to pay each other a fee just to collab

>>68952381
shut up.
child slavery is based.

>>68942422
if Myth's comments alluding to being more or less left to their own devices at the start a true, it's probably because Mori now feels more and more included into hololive as a whole.

>>68936685
Fuck off western imperialist you don't understand what REAL japanese work culture is, hololive is a disgrace to all japanese companies.

Stop forcing western imperialist work culture on japanese companies.

>>68936685
Unicorns destroyed 2 homos and save the day again