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Before today, NijiEN vs Selen/Dokibird wasn't a bigger scandal than Coco chink drama, but is it bigger now?

>> No.68888736

>>68888542
No. Not even close

>> No.68888815

Retard

>> No.68888814

>>68888542
Right now? No
When Nijisanji does something so retarded that they will lose a shitton of money and probably get tens of people sacked? Maybe
Unless there is a mass sudoku, it wont be.

>> No.68888840

>>68888542
the drama not happen in one day, it chains of event
for coco it last for years

>> No.68888906
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>>68888542
if it kills NijiEN as a branch, then yes. Otherwise no.

>> No.68888969

>>68888542
We are just entering Wactor territory now

>> No.68888977

>>68888542
if it kills troonisanji, sure.

>> No.68888990

>>68888542
The Coco vs China was massive and lasted MONTHS.

>> No.68889465

>>68888542
Only if EN closes or more than 4 graduation or terminations occur

>> No.68889767

>>68888542
We're getting close, but not yet.

>> No.68889923

>6 talents graduated. An entire branch shut down
>international incidents between an entire country vs the rest of the world
>a year long harassment campaign against an entire company
>company and talents twitter tags filled with gore and porn
>CEO public dogeza and pay cut
>made its way to local news and parliament materials for online campaign/harassment

You need to reach that level to match Coco's drama.

>> No.68890105

>>68888542
Nijisanji did nothing wrong, those three talents went rogue. Once Nijisanji fires them the Selen drama will be considered done.

>> No.68890131

>>68888906
Even if it killed nijien it still wouldnt be bigger since coco drama also killed an entire branch plus there were wheelbarrows in chat for months until coco's 500k ccv graduation. The scale was too epic.

>> No.68890493

>>68888542
Nowhere close yet and it won't ever be.
Coco Chink drama was far, far, far less negligible than any of this.
It was Cover pulling out of a huge untapped market with amazing growth potential for a single talent. Even if AnyColor should sued by Doki, loses millions in damages, and the EN branch gets folded into JP it still won't measure up, not even remotely.

>> No.68890644

>>68888542
Shut the fuck up newfag
Coco appeared on national newspaper and TV. Except from here, reddit and x, Doki is literally a "who?".

>> No.68890810

>>68888542
holy newfag

>> No.68890939

Please forgive OP, he forgot to account for inflation.

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>>68888814
>When Nijisanji does something so retarded that they will lose a shitton of money and probably get tens of people sacked?
They lost like 3% of their stocks today, anon.

>> No.68891482

>>68888542
Coco literally caused the Chink government to write new laws and regulations for online live content, ask again when the Japanese Ministries start weighting in on cyberbullying and defamation in the context of public corporate online personas.

>> No.68891918

>>68890999
I know it's funny to shitpost with but that's not how this works anon.
The sad part is all this drama really most definitely will be "negligible" for the company in both the short and long term.

>> No.68891928

>>68888542
No. This is a huge shit show but it can't compete with all the ping pongs getting pissed

>> No.68892301

>>68888542
Nijisanji would have to graduate all of EN to be equivalent.

>> No.68892549

>>68888542
It's about at 1/3 of Coco's drama, but still growing. Now, if Doki manages to actually put Kurosanji in the dirt and kill the company? THEN we can say she's caught up.

>> No.68892582

The thing is that regardless of magnitude, In one was the company trying to save two talents against the horde.
On the other is the company dogpilling on a former talent they drove to self harm due to incompetence, and instead of let it rest they double down with a smearing campaign breaking the law.

>> No.68892707

>>68888542
No. Firstly niji en is niche shit with a bunch of 3view vrubers. Secondly its only happning in the Niji en troon fanbase. They are just too fucking vocal.

>> No.68892764

>>68892582
Yup. Pretty much.
Hololive = GODS, Kurosanji = DOGS

>> No.68892777

>>68892301
And abandon the international market in perpetuity, stop using YouTube in favour of NND, never stream any American media/ games ever again, and cancel all sponsorships with American companies.

>> No.68892867

You only think like this because of EN drama being 90% English so you understand what's going on.
The Coco shit was normalfag news in Asia

>> No.68892924

>>68888542
>orange dragon kills the chink branch
>purple dragon is killing the chink branch
Seems about the same to me.

>> No.68892964

>>68892582
very salient point. that's why the two events aren't comparable. coco's struggle was a tech start-up and its employees pitted against state-level harassment. doki's struggle is fallout from the horrific dysfunctional internal culture of a multibillion dollar corp

>> No.68892968

>>68892867
This is correct.

>> No.68892989

>>68892867
In China, you mean, but China is a cesspool, so anything that isn't bowel acid is considered an improvement.

>> No.68893089

>>68892989
>bowel acid
PPPPFFFFFFFFFFFFFTTTTTTTT

>> No.68893611

>>68888542
>Fight a bunch of pajeets and indogs online VS fight the entirety of China.
Is that even a question? Nothing as scandalous as it is will ever be on the level of Coco.

>> No.68893728

>>68888542
Wake me when the Canadian government steps in.

>> No.68893780

Because of Coco every single Chinese live streamer over a certain viewer number has to be registered with a government agency and is assigned a handler now.

All of NijiEN could jump off of a roof while holding hands tomorrow and it wouldn't have a thousandth of as much of an impact as Coco saying a single 6 letter word.

>> No.68893818

>>68892989
Yet all white men are chasing the yellow pussy. Ironic isn't

>> No.68893878

>>68888542
That ultimately ended in the dissolution of a hololive branch. Niji EN is still limping around

>> No.68894023

If this accelerates to the point of 'state of canada versus nijisanji' and en branch dying then yes. Until then coco yab is still bigger.

>> No.68894273
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>>68888542
The Coco chink drama became a national issue. So no

>> No.68894425

>>68893780
>Because of Coco
China always planned to do that and the coco yab just caused the holoCN to reveal their hand early before they had actually taken full legal control of the branch, giving hololive enough time to slice off the rot before it metastasized.

>> No.68894635

>>68894273
I'm amazed Coco/Kson got a job at SEGA, you think they'd be worried about the Chinese audience.

>> No.68894920

>>68893818
Korean and Japanese, yes. Even with an "Asian" buff Chinese can't compete.

>> No.68894983

Cover did not have their vtubers try to bury their talent/former talent.

>> No.68895179

>>68888542
Nijisanji would need to lose every permission from every anglosphere country (including Apex, which given how friendly they are with Doki could actually happen) and close NijiEN, and also be forced to abandon Youtube.

>> No.68895571

After Niji's last statement, they are really getting screwed now.

>> No.68895640

>>68894635
Japs hate the Chinks and love Kson

>> No.68896006

>Chinks at the center of both scandals
Coincidence?

>> No.68896055

>>68888542
My super normie friends heard about the Coco situation. Its not even close to that level, it was a legit international incident.

>> No.68896083

Coco's graduation stream had 500,000 CCV so it was at least 5 times bigger
This is the biggest EN vtubing drama ever though and probably bigger in the west.

>> No.68896401

>>68894635
IIRC they removed her from the chinese version of IW

>> No.68896453

>>68892582
Hololive talents also came out in support of Coco knowing full-well they'd paint a target on their backs and losing subscribers/fans, even against management's treatment of her. To this date I don't think kson had alluded to any mistreatment or bullying by the Holo members during her exile.
It's a huge contrast between the two situations. Nijisanji had the template right in front of them on how to get the fans on your side when a talent decides to quit, and yet continued to choose the worst moves possible.

>> No.68896570

>>68888542
Coco VS China makes the current Selen drama looks like a nothingburger
>>68894635
SEGA backed Kson, Kiryu Kazuma's seiyuu personally supported Kson and tweeted her good wishes

>> No.68896604

>>68888542
I swear this very question proves it's newfags trying to make a TORtanic they can be a part of.

>> No.68896946

>>68888542
A dragon killed HoloCN.
A dragon killed NijiCN.

>> No.68897065

>>68896946
Mahomes throws dragons

>> No.68897269

>>68896946
Dragons are the best arent they?

>> No.68897287

>>68893611
>Fight a bunch of pajeets and indogs online
What?

>> No.68897305

>>68888542
Nijisanji would have to terminate the entire EN branch to get there, but if they keep digging this hole deeper maybe it will be heading that direction.

>> No.68897622

>>68896946
a chinese speaking dragon and her chinese mods killed nijiCN
as always, china is their own worst enemy

>> No.68898648

>>68892582
HoloCN?

>> No.68898732

>>68892582
Honestly I wonder what Coco is thinking about this now, she was so frustrated with Cover's response to the situation. But even then they still tried what they could to protect her despite their retardation.
Now look at Nijisanji, not only they are throwing them under the bus they are actively trying to assassinate her entire career
Cover, as incompetent as they are, are actual saints compared to Nijisanji.

What an unreal development

>> No.68899907

>>68898732
It's not like we didn't see SOME kind of yab coming, but no one could have anticipated an ACTUAL train wreck.

>> No.68900445

>>68888542
yes

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