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68594613 No.68594613 [Reply] [Original]

>non-hololive vtubing will be dead in 5 years
Was she right?

>> No.68594792

No.

>> No.68594952

>>68594613
Accelerating the demise of vtubing with drama will not help Hololive like some retards seem to believe for some reason. The current equilibrium is of Hololive and Nijisanji as the pillars that keep Japanese vtubing stable. Knock one down and Hololive just becomes an easier target to also knock down as we are currently seeing. People need to think about the bigger picture sometimes.

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>>68594952
>Knock one down and Hololive just becomes an easier target to also knock down as we are currently seeing.

>> No.68595102

>>68594613
All of them will, it's not just only going to be 1.

>> No.68595231

>>68595048
See the attacks on idol culture only becoming stronger in the west the weaker that Niji looks. Why is that? Because a stable industry of shared powe becoming unstable only opens vtubing up to more attacks, less sponsors interested in being involved, less fans wanting to be involved in drama, for any big weaknesses that open up in the current industry.

>> No.68595466

>>68595231
can you say that again but in english?

>> No.68595878

>>68594613
She didn't say that.

>> No.68595958

>>68595466
Here's my best interpretation:

A weakened Nijisanji is an easy target for people who believe that it represents idol culture (or people who just jump on the drama bandwagon). These people will gain strength and credibility and mislead others into believing that Nijisanji is bad because of idol culture, and not just because Nijisanji is a shitbox. Westoid normalnigger cattle will associate idol culture with vtubing because that's their only exposure to it and therefore the reputation of vtubing will tank in the west.

>> No.68596093

>>68594952
VSPO comes to the rescue!

>> No.68596123

>>68595958
>nijisanji gone
>no more drama
>no more le ebil idol culture
>hololive reign supreme

>> No.68596130

>>68595958
"Idol culture" is a meme at this point. Regular streamers and streamer agencies act in exactly the same way. But no, vtubing will probably die within a good 5 years probably because something else will come along or people will just get bored of it

>> No.68596176

>>68594952
>>68595231
>trying this hard
rofl. shut the fuck up doomnigger.

>> No.68596181

As time goes one the probability of another hololive girl being revealed as having a husband approaches 1.

>> No.68596186

>>68594613
>>68594613
>8594613▶>>68594952 >>68595102 >>68595878
>nijisanji will have more graduations than other years
probably

>> No.68596213

>>68594952
>Knock one down and Hololive just becomes an easier target to also knock down
>as we are currently seeing
baffling post

>> No.68596229

>>68595958
Thing is, anyone who is actually interested will be able to understand the situation quickly, while everyone else will be filtered (and that is a good thing).

>> No.68596234

>>68595466
If niji, which accounts for lets say 35% of all vtuber industry, collapses; some investors will believe that this means 'niji is dead' and some investors will believe that this means '35% of all vtuber industry is dead'.

>> No.68596277

>>68596130
The moment believable personalized AI chuubas with l2d on phones is a thing, vtubing will be dead, well, maybe not dead, just not relevant.

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>>68596181
It's me. I'm the husband.

>> No.68596402

>>68596277
Wrong, the more AI vtubers take over there will be a matched demand for verified human vtubers. Also no matter how good the AI vtubers become people will find a way to break it and breaking the AI will be the show, not the actual stream, basically the AI version of getting one guy'd.

>> No.68596463

>>68596186(me)
what the fuck happened with my post?

>> No.68596474

>>68596234
I don't think Niji is at risk of collapsing as whole, only NijiEN. And even then investors won't think, '35% of the vtuber industry is dead', they will think, 'Wow that one company was retarded. Anyway 35% of the vtuber industry just opened up for the taking'.

>> No.68596570

>>68595958
All that will do is prop up indies and Vshojo(where the nijiclique is moving to) vs the other "idol culture" company left

>> No.68596727

>>68595958
>Westoid normalnigger cattle
Why do you think we or any person who would be potentially interested in vtubers would give a shit about the opinions of these people?

>> No.68596782

>>68596402
>Deadpan robotic voiced vtuber getting one guy'd all stream
So basically a Zentreya stream

>> No.68596858

>>68596474
and when blizzard collapses do you also think that there will be space for a new competitive hero shooter esport to take overwatchs place? A significant number of investors will always follow the strategy that if a company died it means what they tried to do doesnt work.

>> No.68596944

>>68596123
last part is already true, anon

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>>68594613
It's even funnier seeing that she's getting less numbers by the month and also transitioning into a fleshtuber more and more. I guess she was right

>> No.68597101

>>68594613
Apparently not, shes in vshitjo and its still alive with tungstenrat in it, so no.

>> No.68597115

>>68596858
But what Niji is trying to do is working, it's just not working for them. Holo and many of the smaller companies are seeing growth after growth. What investors are going to see is those smaller companies that could use investment to increase their growth and an opening in the market ready for them to fill, offering higher returns for lower investment. You're insane if you think the response will be, "Well this one specific company was mismanaged so all these other clearly successful companies must also be worthless." If that was how the market worked every fucking industry would have dissolved years ago. This supermarket chain went bankrupt therefore we're never investing in supermarkets ever again. This movie project failed so people must just hate movies now. That isn't how this shit works.

>> No.68597304

>>68596944
Not really but its getting there with the studio.

Hololive's current weakness is the lack of opportunities to get some exclusivity deals with big companies inside of Japan, they try to countermeasure this by promoting themselves outside of the country as much as they can but it's still not enough to make them stand on par with Niji as of today unfortunately.

Hopefully things can change for the better throughout the year if Niji keeps taking Ls and VSPO doesn't increase in popularity/becomes IPO (they been trying on getting some exclusivity deal with SPWN last time I checked).

>> No.68597345

>>68594613
NijiJP seems to be insulated from the drama but they're proving the model they use doesn't work outside Japan. Other corpos like Phase and Vshojo show that vtubing is profitable and can function outside of Japan. HoloEN gets away with running an idol company outside of Japan by being the gorilla in the room. I don't think that will last forever.

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>>68594613
>>68597067

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>>68597404

>> No.68599019

>>68594613
It's not what she actually said.
But given that the current algorithms promote via stochastic mechanisms and positive feedback loops, mathematically the statistical bias will move further and further towards big agencies.

>> No.68599644

>>68597304
this retard is still living in 2020

>> No.68599753

>>68597304
>Hololive's current weakness is the lack of opportunities to get some exclusivity deals with big companies inside of Japan
you cannot be serious
this has to be bait

>> No.68601834

>>68594613
>Was she right?
Indies will be the last to survive

>> No.68603959

>>68594613
?

>> No.68605215

>>68601834
too crabby

>> No.68605818

>>68597345
>NijiJP seems to be insulated from the drama but they're proving the model they use doesn't work outside Japan.
It proved the strength of language barrier, and ability of diehard fans to mislead the general populace away from focusing on the real problems plaguing Nijisanji.

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