/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>6856677
Yeah, because the " Elites" discourage EOPs in the chat. Been there.

>>6856730
Is this the legendary Niji bullying culture?

>>6856745
Why do you think we're here and not in /jp/ ?

>>6856677
Niji is way more popular in JP, while Holo has more international appeal.

>>6856730
...and that's a good thing!

Why do EOPs spam jap-only streams chats with english posts? Are they not aware that they are being annoying towards the vtuber and japanese fans?

Hiring multilingual only gimps the talent pool and it shows.

>>6856771
They're aware, they just don't care and think they need to get over it. Many people on this board share that opinion.

>>6856730
EOP exists to be bullied by their JSL brethren

>>6856677
It's one of the upsides to having 1,000 viewers as opposed to 20,000

>>6856792
On the contrary it ensures the person applying has to actually be talented and not some worthless dipshit who can only speak English and that's it.

>>6856677
Petra is basically Kiara she wanted to be in the Japanese branch but was probably rejected

>>6856771
>>6856798
What is the chuuba is multilingual? Then it must be fine because the general rule is you talk to the chuuba and not each other correct?

>>6856810
youtube.com/watch?v=N6-YNP2WRXY
Deron has 20,000 viewers right now and the chat is still all Japanese. The viewer number has nothing to do with it, there is just a superior culture around Nijisanji.

>>6856822
Why are Holobronies so desperate to try and single out somebody as "the Kiara of NijiEN"? They're nothing alike.

>>6856677
at least post selen thumbnail rather than petra
nijinigger

>>6856831
Yes, for example it's fine if you speak English in Pikamee's stream.

>>6856851
He put Petra because she speaks english and japanese and did a japanese stream.

>>6856851
Does Selen know Japanese, faggot?

>>6856851
brainletchama....

>>6856763
Proven false multiple times

>>6856839
They're trying to sabotage Nijisanji because it's the one thing that actually threatens Hololive's dominance. If anything Finana is the Kiara of NijiEn.

>>6856763
>>6856884
But why DOES Hololive have international appeal? Is it just the fact that it was the first to have an English branch? Or is it before that, just the luck of the draw that translator clippers decided they preferred Hololive and started translating all their clips? If they'd preferred Nijisanji and translated Nijisanji clips en masse could things have been very different?

>>6856894
If anything it's Vshojo that threatens them in the west. I just want them to leave the girls alone, even Finana is way too softspoken and considerate of others to be "the Kiara".

>>6856802
>JSL
>implies anglo
Go away John!

This thread made me realize that I will never be Japanese.

>>6856923
>Clips
>nigga, scatman, bandaids
>Doog
>Clips
>Coco
>Reddit
>Memes

>>6856838
>Japanese vtuber has people speaking in Japanese in chat
Nigga you retarded read the topic of the post.

>>6856923
Literally because of clippers.
En viewers generally have less time to watch anime girls all day than japs.

>>6856677
Finally someone that gets it. Nijisanji, along with most smaller chuubas, present their contents in a more traditional Japanesque fashion. They rely on bokke-tsukkomi interaction with their audience explicitly more than Hololive chuubas do. That's why Nijisanji (and smaller chuubas) read chats more often, talk and have discussion with chat. It's reminiscent of older NND streamers, where you, the viewers, are part of the stream. Whereas Hololive streams are more akin to watching a performance that you enjoy passively. Though you should note that what the non-Holo chuubas are doing isn't just mere viewers interaction, it's actually deeper than that. This phenomenon is a reflection, a manifestation of the Japanese psyche, of groupthink and their extreme adherence, or even dependence to the concept of fitting in with the herd. It's almost as if it's the most natural way for them to communicate. Couple with the fact that Japanese speech is heavily reliant on aizuchi (explicit verbal agreement/acknowledgment to a person's speech, e.g. everyone uttering "sou, sou" when one person is talking). To the chuuba, the viewer acts as their affirmation, but also, at the same time, the viewers receive their own affirmation from the chuubas towards their comments. It's an explicit demonstration of groupthink, en masse, and in real time, and it's beautiful. If you don't believe this is in fact what's occurring, just watch any Japanese broadcasts. Notice that they always have those window with all the panels? That's the exact same thing. That's there to show the viewers how to react, and to reaffirm them that their reaction is correct, removing the fear of "being different than the group". It's the same thing as the chat here. You're not just a viewer, you're part of the activity! You're there to affirm the chuuba and the other viewers, and they're there for you, and you're all making sure you arrive at the same idea, together. It's a very Japanese thing. It's also why Nijisanji (+ smaller chuubas that do this) are inherently more popular in Japan, whilst simultaneously have little room to expand overseas. Western culture does not have this concept. They won't get it. Aizuchi is considered rude. After all, you're interrupting someone's speech, and without adding anything to the discussion. When the performers perform, you just watch their performance and enjoy it. There is a "you vs them" divide. There is no group movement.

Whereas Hololive, of course, leans more towards the latter style. Its their chuubas themselves that try to make the contents they are doing interesting, by presenting them in an entertaining way. "memes and loud noises" as you say. They don't focus on making the contents interesting with the audience. The audience are just there to watch. To enjoy the performance. It's almost like going to a cinema. They present their content like movies do. Movies, which are, of course, largely a western invention. That's why they click so well with foreigners, because it's what's familiar to them. It's also why the dougatubers before them were more successful with foreigners. None of my Japanese friends quite liked the old style of vtubing. They said it feels alien. But they were popular outside Japan still. Of course they failed because Ai is shit, but Hololive succeeded by applying a similar technique of communication, coupled with having great luck. But they are not Japanesque. Or at the very least, they are a breed of very modan Japanese. As a side note, I believe this is also part of why the more "traditional" Hololivers are not as popular with foreigners. The "talker" Holos. Subaru, Mio, Okayu, etc. It's not only the language barrier at play here; they have their fair share of subbed kirinukis after all. But their contents are just not as entertaining when presented like that. You have to be part of the groupthink. They lean towards the "you just had to be there" style.

>And the people attracted to hololive are there to watch funny dog scream yubi yubi and funny memefox say scatman.
While I won't dispute this, I won't say this is a bad thing either. Neither styles are better or worse than the other (they're both shit and low art if you really want to argue about it). Either can be as entertaining as the other, and you can't quantify entertainment.

>>6857138
Nigga I aient reading that

>>6856884
Do you have their personal youtube's data page?, judge by the comment section alone can tell major of view are EOP and they are out number JOP

>>6857138
How the absolute fuck is this post able to fit in the character limit, does this board have a massive character limit or something?

>>6857138
Zzzz

>>6857138
is this a cry for help? are you okay anon?

>>6856894
But there's nothing wrong with Kiara wtf are you talking about

>>6857138
tldr pls

>>6857138
And now you understand why nijiniggers are the bullied nerds of the vtuber community

>>6857138
You're right but this is also way too fucking long

>>6857196
Correct, Finana is the Kiara of HoloEN in the sense that this board has collectively decided to choose her as their shitposting and bullying target and so every thread about Finana and Kiara is filled with this seething hatred and demands for them to graduate.

>>6857138
in other words
hololive = konosuba
nijisanji = joshiraku
one is for normies, the other is for ultraweebs

>>6856677
No one clip or live TL my oshi so i do my reps. If they do jp stream then i'll chat in jp, if they do eng stream then i'll chat in en, if they write en/jp ok usually i will use en in chat. As simple as that

>>6857259
This is the stupidest fucking comparison I have ever read in my life and can only have been made by someone who watches subtitled anime.

>>6857254
Literally what universe are you in where Finana gets anti threads on the daily, I can tell you're not a Nijinigger because she hasn't gotten any notable amount of hate since the shart incident pre-debut, she's harmless

>>6856677
Who?

>>6857259
>hololive = konosuba
More like Re:Zero with waifu faggotry

>>6857277
gomen, dogeza shimasu

>>6857138
The fact that nobody has called this out for being a /jp/ copypasta is disappointing.

>>6857295
That doesn't even make sense. Are you alright?

>>6857138
Honestly the Nijisanji method sounds very similar to what Twitch streamers have always been doing. I think the audience interaction is Nijisanji’s strongsuit, and NijiEN could eventually become a real competitor to HoloEN.
If Hololive doesn’t adapt, EOPs are going to get bored and move on. The novelty of laughing at funny dog noises or Gura being a dumb shark is going to wear off eventually.

>>6857309
I hate /jp/. Never been there.

>>6856677
Ok I get i, NijiEN doesn't want EOPs.

>>6857138
I ain't reading all that. I'm happy for u tho. Or sorry that happened.

>>6857350
Don't be so proud of being a newfag

>>6857309
You just did....
Also I'm not reading that shit.

>>6857363
I hate you too.

>>6857325
I'd personally don't prefer they don't get TOO popular, just popular enough that it makes for a reliable source of income. The chats are comfy right now and I'd hate for them to become as chaotic as Gura's.

>>6856894
No one needs to sabotage your precious Nijis, if anything they can hope that they are not completely overshadowed by the 12 next chuubas that is going to be pumped out by Nijisanji

>>6857138
And here we have a retarded paragraph poster.

Petra Gurin:

Hi everyone, this is Rie.
I apologize for the delay in addressing everything that has been going on. Please let me address everything in my own words.

First and most importantly, I want to let everyone know that I fully support the One China policy and the One Country, Two Systems principle. I deeply apologize if I have expressed anything to suggest I believe otherwise, and I’m sorry I did not make this clear in the past. It has never been my intention to hurt or offend anyone. I know I cannot change what I have done - however, I will do everything I can to ensure this does not happen again. Additionally, I will no longer be touching on sensitive topics like this in the future. From the bottom of my heart, I hope I can regain your trust in me.

Secondly, I want to clarify that the only reason I mentioned live-streaming is because it is my birthday tomorrow (Monday) and I wanted to celebrate with everyone on Bilibili. I did not plan to keep streaming after that day. I apologize for any misunderstandings that may have been caused by this. I will no longer be streaming this week, I hope you can understand my reasons.

Lastly, I want to express my sincere apologies again for any unpleasant feelings I may have caused. I genuinely love connecting with everyone here and sharing my music - I have met and interacted with such a wonderful community through Bilibili, and I am grateful for everything this community has done for me. I will do my best not to disappoint you.

As a final note, I will be posting a scheduled birthday video tomorrow night. I hope you will consider this a new starting point in my activities here. With the exception of this video, I will be taking a short break to reflect and improve on myself, so that I can create better works and hopefully bring more joy to you all.

I’ll do my best!
Thank you for reading.

https://www.bilibili.com/read/cv8079964

>watching nijis
Sorry I'm not fond of being a literal cuckold

>>6857424
More like a retarded essay poster if anything. Nijipropaganda/10. Would not read again.

>>6857456
This is because she liked a free Hong Kong-er's tweet, by the way. Girl didn't want to get Coco'd.

>>6857496
Where is the tweet she liked?

>>6857460
You're only a cuck if you spend money on female streamers that inevitably have boyfriends, which I hope you're not admitting to.

>>6857456
Gura killer? More like Chink knockoff Gura Lmao

>>6857496
>Bowing to China ever.
Fuckin gross dude.

doesn't help that when she streamed on that time, its more favorable to JP and several asian countries too so can't expect a lopt of western viewers on that time

>>6857456
HOLO SHIT IS THAT PEKORA GURA FROM VSHOJO CN!!!!!

>>6857496
Any source of any of those tweets or this is just a rrat?

>>6857514
Give me a bit to stop jerking off and get off my phone and I'll pull it up for you, but to begin with it's common sense that if you're apologizing to China to begin with you did something to piss them off

>>6857460
Oh you sweet summer child. I hope you don’t watch Hololive either

>>6857456
Nice to know that Nijisanji still bows down to China. That honey drenched Pooh cock must taste delicious.

>watching women stream
Sorry I'm not fond of being a literal cuckold

>>6857602
>still bows down to China
Too funny how Holobronies have to say "still" because they know their company did the exact same.

>>6857456
SHE did that?
time to unsub
anyone who bows down to chinks deserves 100% HATE

>>6857573
Go back

>>6857623
>Pulls entire company out of China and fires their chink workers
COVER DID THE SAME THING BRO!!!

>>6857670
Coco's never coming back dude. Get used to it.

>>6857456
based, she bowed down to china just like coco did when she apologized by acknowledging taiwan (lowercase t). I am now going to send her ¥50,000 through her streamlabs.

>>6856757
The legendary Touhou whining culture?

>>6857641
You weren't subscribed in the first place

>>6856771
There were JOPs spamming Selen's apex chat, so the feeling is mutual.

>>6857670
no vtuber company sucked china dick like cover before the taiwan fuckup, newfag. they forced all their talents to simulcast their streams on bilibili. not even a quarter of nijijp's roster has bilibili accounts.

>>6857670
>fires their chink workers
susei is still under contract with them retard.

>>6857670
>Pulls entire company out of China and fires their chink workers
After suspending their employees for two weeks, making them apologize to China, publically announcing they support One-China policy and keeping the CN branch around for months that was conspiring against Coco. They did not choose to leave the Chinese market, in fact they did everything they could to stay, they were forced out. Nice try though.

>>6857641
Based

>>6857623
>Too funny how Holobronies have to say "still" because they know their company did the exact same.

Stop living in the past nijinigger. There's literally nothing for you to deflect here. HoloCN is in the gutter now. Good riddance. Nijisanji on the other hand has a bilibili backed agency. And I will not stop hating (You)r precious Nijisanji until they leave the Bug infested chink land.

How come Nijithreads can't exist without constantly bringing up Hololive and how Niji will surely btfo them as the superior company this time?

>>6857792
You're free to do as you want. Just know that Cover never rescinded their public support of One-China policy and Aqua is still a Bilibili darling. If the opportunity ever presents itself, Cover is prepared to go balls deep into China again.

>>6857724
I mean that's not what happened at all. You really need to do your reps anon. At least all the other people made fair points but you are just falling for retard bait and repeating it.

>>6857677
>Holobronies Holobronies Holobronies Holobronies.

Damn Zhangchama. How pathetic are you? Literally Zero mention of Coco. Yet here you are bringing her up. Are you obsessed? At least I know now that you are the wanker who likes shitting up the threads. Zhang defectors are looking at you in shame. A lower lifeform like you should delete themselves from reality.

>>6856677
What are you talking about? If you ever goes to Loafy or Anya's JP only stream you'll find that JP viewers overwhelmed the ID one.

It's just the problem with EN fanbase, there are too many underage teenagers who wants to be recognized and speaks when they shouldn't. That would scares the JP viewers away.

>>6857858
>Cover never rescinded their public support of One-China policy

HoloCN did that. Do your reps, nigger.

>>6857909
>I mean that's not what happened at all
I was there. Haachama showed Taiwan when showing who views her videos. Right away, she issued an apology and the chinks forgave her as it was seen as an accident. Later that day, Coco did the same thing. She wasn't seen so kindly, this was looked at as a deliberate provacation. Attempts to ignore the Chinese onslaught failed, and in a rash decision Cover announced that both Haachama and Coco were suspended for two weeks. On the Chinese version of this announcement, they mentioned supporting One-China policy. This pissed the Chinks off as it was not present in the other versions of the announcement. I remember the suspension very clearly because a talented artist drew fanart for each day the two were suspended. Coco came back, and she made an apology video. It was very barebones, and her ending screen was unfortunate - it said "fuck u and never come back", which the Chinks saw as yet another provacation. All the while Artia and the other CNs were dogwhistling for Coco's continued harassment, utilizing Wolf Warrior tactics, with Artia saying "hold the line" on her roommate's weibo account. This was kept up for months until the branch was so longer sustainable and ultimately dissolved. Yogiri was a good girl though.

>>6857015
this actually

>>6858013
Who ran HoloCN, anon?

>>6857858
If they ever did, Cover loses far more than they could ever hope to gain.
They would lose the confidence of their talents, they would lose the confidence of their fans, they would be labeled a black company and any hope of future growth would die in the stilted fetid pit that is known as "sucking the cock of the CCP only to get fucked in the ass".

If you think the Kizuna Ai debacle was bad, Cover trying to re-enter the Chinese market would be a full-on 7th trumpet scenario the likes we have never seen. It would require full apologies from multiple parties in China to avoid it, and that's just not going to happen.

>>6858023
>Posts all that
>Still didn't do reps and got 1/2 of it wrong
My god Nijibros I'm sorry this guy is trying to represent you all.

>>6857858
>Cover is prepared to go balls deep into China again.
You are dumb if you actually believe this. Cover may be retarded but they aren't anywhere near that level of stupid.

>>6858081
Why should I do reps for a situation I personally remember? If you're a Tia apologist who think she dindu nuffin I have no interest in arguing with you. Please point out where you think I was wrong and I'll provide proof of my claims or chalk it up to faulty human memory.

>>6857138
Sure thing bro, I get you. I think.

>>6858039
Do you not get what he meant? Cover graduating the whole of holoCN is already a silent fuck you to the apology they released. They don't need to make a public statement saying they don't support their One China policy else they'll receive a much greater backlash

>>6857456
Hol up, she's barely even debuted and she's already this deep in shit? lmaloe

>>6858121
No I hate chinks with every fiber of my being and no I won't spoon feed you other than telling you that cover didn't make the bilibli post.

>>6858143
>Cover graduating the whole of holoCN is already a silent fuck you to the apology they released
That's a hell of a generous interpretation of the event. They graduated HoloCN because they could no longer profit off of them, simple as. If they wanted to say "fuck you" to China they wouldn't have prostrated themselves for them in the first place.

>>6858121
>Why should I do reps for a situation I personally remember?
Has it ever occurred to you that just because you were the retard that stared himself blind at the sun before the solar eclipse doesn't mean that you actually saw shit

>>6858157
>other than telling you that cover didn't make the bilibli post
But they did. It was Cover's official account. It's clear you're just a Cover apologist shifting the blame, so let me guess - it didn't count because it was whoever was in charge of the HoloCN branch that wrote it up? You have no argument so you're instead of attempting to actually attack mine, you rely on baseless claims of "hurr durr didn't happen".

>>6858170
>They graduated HoloCN because they could no longer profit off of them
>Holostars

>>6858198
Point out where you think I was wrong. Go ahead. Point out what I'm claiming that didn't happen. Or don't and continue to deny, deny, deny.

>>6858220
At least the homos still got EOPs support on YT, holoCN certainly can't because bilibili debuff

>>6858220
They do bring in a profit. A much smaller one than the girls, but profit nonetheless.

>>6856677
Of course there are only english-speaking people left on their channels. If you know japanese why the fuck would you watch EN when you could be watching literally anyone else and it would be more entertaining

>>6858170
That's why it's given a "silent". Despite receiving an apology and a 3 week ban for Coco and Haato, they still wanted to get them graduated. Cover graduating their CN members is literally a silent fuck you to them because not only they lost HoloCN, now they can't enjoy the rest of JP or EN while Cover won't be doing any business with them anymore. Much more easier to open a branch for ES and KR instead.

>>6858327
I don't think a silent "fuck you" after thoroughly sucking a country's dick and only retreating when all possible options were exhausted is much of a "fuck you" at all.

>>6858219
You are literally retarded thanks for letting everyone know.

>>6858327
>>6858351
Okay /pol/tards, wrap it up and get out.

>>6857138
For fuck's sake, there are plenty of Nijis who do the whole performance shit you consider "western" and plenty of Holos who rely on bouncing back and forth with chat. This is a whole lot of theorycrafting over fucking nothing. The real reason Hololive is more popular overseas is simply through viral appeal through clippers as well as Cover being more aggressive than Anycolor in taking advantage of said overseas viral appeal. Not this bullshit you spurted out.

>>6858359
>I-it wasn't Cover
>Actually it was
>Yeah well you're a retard
?

>>6857015
>>Clips
Hololive had many clips hitting viral status on Twitter and Youtube.

>>nigga, scatman, bandaids
Enough to increase EoP presence in livechat.

>>Doog
Korone was a living EoP magnet and her stream quality and game selection were second to none. Good times. Would like to go back.

>>Clips
Out of context Vtubers, and Anime girls speaking english we're booming back then.

>>Coco
Single handedly carried her entire generation from being branded a failure. And Helped shape hololive as we currently know it. It is said that you can still see Kiryu Coco's shadow hovering above Cover Headquarters completely overshadowing all hololive members. A legend. I humbly KNEEL.

>>Reddit
Coco's presence catapulted this place to a 100K members before EN even debut. Without Coco Gura would be on reddit TODAY begging for views and subscribers.

>>Memes
The biggest reason hololive saw consistent growth. Memes are legit a universal language that is easily understandable. Thanks clippers, animators and shitposters. Also a big thank you to Kiryu Coco. An absolute legend. Kizuna Ai cannot relate. Shame.

Some supposedly Noot-noot’s apology letter to Chinese viewers on Bilibili just disappeared within the bilibili link. Any clue, anons or mods? Probably a bait?

>>6856677
>When HoloEN does JP-only streams the chats are mainly just people speaking in English
Went to check and that's not true at all. There's a pretty healthy amount of Japanese comment in chat.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WR9XEG_JHdE&t=1975s

>>6858379
You're retarded for believing that it was covered who posted it when bilibli not only managed the Hololive CN members but also the channel on there as well.

Alright penguin antis, here's proof that she was getting shit for retweeting a pro-Hong Kong tweet on Twitter. Google translate shows the Chinx circlejerking about it. Mind you these are the same people who spammed Coco. Now ease off her.
https://ngabbs.com/read.php?tid=23844130&page=3

>>6858928

>>6858847
Is that why the translated text of the statement was exactly the same as the English and Japanese versions of it except with an added One-China section? You gullible retard. If Cover really had so little control over their own Bilibili account it wouldn't have been called HoloCN in the first place.

>>6859000
>Is that why the translated text of the statement was exactly the same as the English and Japanese versions of it except with an added One-China section?
Uhhh... yea that's exactly why.

>If Cover really had so little control over their own Bilibili account it wouldn't have been called HoloCN in the first place.
ITT: Man who doesn't know how china works

>>6859143
So you're a moron, got it. Was it Bilibili's choice to suspend Coco and Haachama too? Cover had control over their business operations in China, cope. If they didn't they wouldn't have been able to leave the market in the first place.

>>6857138
Pasta or not that aizuchi thing is really annoying

>>6856677
Kinda surprised that there were a lot of japanese viewers watching penguin. On her 2nd stream she talked a lot of japanese for a few minutes and all the JOPs came out of the woodwork. I even saw people chatting in english suddenly switch to japanese.

>>6859273
Anon you have to partner with a chinese company to do buisness in the PRC that's how it works.

>>6856677
Maybe because all the EOPs are watching Hololive and actual Nipponjins are watching the newest Nijis.

>>6859949
So now you're just straight up defending their business operations in China. Lol got it.

>>6857138
There’s no way I’m reading all that shit, faggot

>>6856923
>the talents embrace their eop and esl fans
>the jsl doesnt act like elitist rabbit dogs that bark and gatekeeping new fans
>luck and easier to clip
>more clippers jump in the bandwagon
>more exposure with coco's asacoco and the rest of the talents embrace western meme
>actually including their kaigainikkis in the fun
Nijisanji has their chance way more than holo but they refuse it. Not that it's bad since the early eop WERE trashing the chat but in holo case instead of barking like the nijiniggers were, they explained it in a more accepted and understanding manners either in the chat, comments, and clips. So yeah, blame the early nijifags to turn off most of the newfags to watch their chuuba

>>6859973
Are you retarded?That's just a fact it has nothing to do with what I think.

>>6860017
Take a look at chumcuck chat and realise how fucking retarded you sound. If you want autistic children as an audience the. By all means pander to those retards.

But I would rather return to where hololive fans actually behaved in the chat instead of begging for them to say unfunny shut 24/7

>>6861683
MUH CHUMBUDS!!!!
Go back

>>6862042
You first, tranny.

>>6860017
This meme went viral around 2018, it was inescapable but niji didn’t do anything about it. Rin was featured on meme reviews and get loads of EOP en mess but instead she sorta ejected them out. Cover and their talents on the hand, embraced the meme very quickly. Fubuki made 3D version of her Scatman meme, and Subaru interacting with KFC Twitter due to the dancing duck meme.

>>6856884
Bruh. Youtube trends disproves that.

>>6862201
Irrelevant measurement for JP tho, it's NND that matters and it's mostly holo nowadays despite Niji buying their virals there with NND

>>6856677
Good, i don't want EOPs and SEAnigs to ruin Nijisanji.

>>6857259
I like both though.

>>6862601
Impossible. Pick a side already and stop fence sitting.

>>6862289
>NND
lol, have fun with the largest post count from your anti wiki and video.
let me guess nijisanji is paying holoanti too?

>>6857138
based copypasta

>>6856802
Don't you have anki reps to do Davido-kun?

>>6858039
>Who ran HoloCN
The middlemen pseudo-managers in charge of the accounts, cover had literally no power over them

>>6856757
because retards spamed /qa

>>6856677
That doesn't make sense when HoloEN makes all of their music in Japanese. Even gura's song is in Japanese and she barely knows as much as a kindergarten student.

>>6866816
I hope you dont believe that spam on /qa/ ever achieved anything

>>6856677
it's interesting how nijisanjiEN related shitposting increases every time another gen gets released

>>6857259
Pretty nice comparison. Hololive sometimes doesn't think out of box like making jokes or entertainment while Nijisanji is equivalent to Joshiraku, you can't expect what expected. For example creating original jokes or new topic to stream (deep web browsing, goreposting, and vrchat)

>>6857138
Well written. Despite the wall of text I quite enjoy reading this. Thanks for sharing.

>>6862155
Probably because they didn't even know it went viral, and 99% of the people who saw it had no clue who the 2 in the picture were, nor did they care. Anyone interacting with them due to that meme through Youtube or Twitter was a drop in the ocean of their existing JP fanbase already.

>>6860017
Why do people keep repeating the luck meme? Shit happens for a reason. Most people will choose to pander/embrace whatever their largest fanbase is. Hololive went to CN because they needed to stay afloat, not because they wanted to "embrace" their CN audience. Clips came from CN at the start which was their exposure. Then Coco could obviously embrace Western memes because she's a literal westerner. The only Niji incline was Rin, and there was no "explaining in a more accepted and understanding manner", because the people coming in were like 2x larger than her usual fanbase.

>>6859273
>>6859000
Anonchama, your logic reps…

>>6859973
>>6859273
(You)

>>6857138
This whole post is such bullshit I can't believe people are eating it up
>the more "traditional" Hololivers are not as popular with foreigners. The "talker" Holos. Subaru, Mio, Okayu, etc. It's not only the language barrier at play here
Why would you straight up lie? Subaru is currently one of the most popular/hardest inclining holos. And guess what? Kaigai love her zatsudans too because she quite literally overcame the language barrier and started including English translations for them to read. Can you make a single post without letting your superiority complex bleed through?

>Falling for copypasta

>>6869262
Copypasta or not it raises a valid point holobrony.

>>6869187
The pasta is from before the times she was as popular as now.

>>6857138

>>6856677
Why did you post thiS rant with the photo of the only NijiEN people are giving shit to for pandering too much at the JOP's?

>>6856838
>there is just a superior culture
Ken-sama go back to /jp/

>>6857714
You don't have any idea what you're talking about, you stupid faggot.

Chinks pirate streams and upload it to fan made channels on their shit website so other bugs can watch it without using a ladder.
Cover notices this and considers their options:

A) tell them to stop -> bugs laugh at them and tell them to fuck off because chinks are thieves.

B) make a deal with the bug website so they get at least some revenue.

The deal says in exchange for the holos coming by once in a while and simulcasts (that are delayed so they can censor shit), the website will give them a portion of the revenue and provide fan translations for clips.

Cover never wanted to be on bilibili. They just figured they could profit off a shit situation. The fan groups called themselves "official" but cover never had any hand in operating them. Lying, making shit up, and tricking people is part of Chinese DNA.

Here's something funny, remember those fansubs I just mentioned? Bilibili never hired any of those translators. They just told the fan groups to do it and cover might thank them one day. It was one of the reasons the translator groups were so mad when the taiwan shit went down. They kept saying cover never paid them for their work. Realistically, it was probably bilibili that was supposed to compensate them somehow and never did, because again, chinks are thieves and liars.

>>6858404
Man what happened to Koro-san's streams? Those Doom streams were great. English-only Mario is legendary. Now she only streams 30 year old kusoge for 10 hours straight.

>>6858404
>Gura would be on reddit TODAY begging for views and subscribers.
if Gura had 150k subs and NijiEN numbers she would be happier than she is now

Let me just take a look in this thread to see if it's gotten any better since last night.

Hm... NOPE!

>>6895522
how would you know?

>>6857218
hololive = movie-like
nijisanji = comments made live are part of the stream content

>>6892035
>Cover never wanted to be on bilibili
Are you Cover? lol this sounds like cope, since when do you know the feelings of a company

>>6895467
It seem she does more sponsored games. I assume she need money for her mom's surgery.

>>6903209
oh, well that actually makes sense. Guess the bigger the streamer, the less connection it has with the chat.

>>6895467
I think with the appearance of HoloEN she no longer feels the need to pander to foreign fans. Her chat back then was one of the worst with constant Spanish and EEKUM BOOKUM that pushed out all the members chat. She's probably more comfortable where she is at right now.

>>6903348
Good, I find her streams starting to get comfier again now that all the kids are gone. Watching her play old classic games that the kids get bored watching but I love watching especially because nobody else plays them.