/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

massive graduations incoming

>>6811076
they'll let you keep your existing character if you own it

>>6811048
What they're not satisfied with nijiniggers chuba or something?

So they just gonna fish all ncnc people then? As well as graduated jp idols?

so this is the final yab
the 7th trumpet
holobros....

>>6811048
>50
Holy shit lol keep an eye on seiyuu/idola who suddenly stop posting

>Snoy

You don't want that, since they're going to push shitty american politics.

>>6811048
Interesting but weird

>>6811167
I think this will be JP only, anon. Then again, I could be wrong.

>>6811124
>>6811190
hope Azki will tryout

>>6811211
This was Route Beta all along

It may be difficult for vtubers who are already working for labels like Hachi.
However, there are many good indie singers like Harano Oni who will benefit from this. Unless of course, they believe they are better off as indies, compared to making it big under Sony.

>>6811048
I heard kson is the manager.

>>6811048
This is big. It all comes down to the designs and personalities. If they're shit no one will watch but with 50 vtubers at least one of them is guaranteed to be a entertaining streamer.
Also since this is music related, if one of them lands a hit song, it will all he worth it.

>>6811048
Is this female only?

>>6811048
Maybe potential.
But the riot girls all suck and that's a real music company too so not sure how good we can expect here.

This looks to be mostly VSinger focused, which is interesting

>>6811048
Sony departments are pretty ass outside of gaming so I'm not getting my hopes up.

I'm guessing all the ones who lost to irys can try again and we'll see whether Cover was right to hire her

https://www.sonymusic.co.jp/sd/vee/en/
It's in English too, but yeah, audition is Japan residents only.

>>6811048
Will Sony protect my girl if she says Taiwan or retweets pro-taiwan tweet in her roommate account?

>Sony
Ahh, so now the nigger tranny wave hits.

>>6811048
How does Sony plan to start a Vtubing company when they hate anime titties now?

>>6811048
Color me surprised, this is going to be a 50 girl idol group, huh? They're trying to compete with Hololive?

>>6811617
It has a chink version so I guess you'll know what'll happen
https://www.sonymusic.co.jp/sd/vee/ch/

>>6811617
They'll have a voice recognition killswitch if it even starts to hear "tie"

>>6811211
Eh, I hope not but I can't stop her if that's what she wants. Trying to stand out among 50 talents is already a daunting task of its own. There could very well be a better AZKi out there applying for this.

>>6811737
What happens if they talk about Starwars and mention tie fighters

>>6811724
I CAN'T SPAM TW LOVE AAIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>6811757
Too bad. Don't be so sinophobic shitlord

>>6811685
Kek, mark my words in 1 year this board will be a Sony board and hololive will be just as irrelevant as nisanjii

>>6811787
Screencapped, senpai. See you in 1 year in this holoboard.

Didn't bushiroad try this already?

>>6811685
More like they are trying to compete with Nijisanji with a vtuber blitz and AKB48.

>>6811787
God, please no. I do not fucking care about singing Vtubers.

>veepigs

>>6811768
To be sinophobic is a natural state of mind unless you're a brainwashed bug

>>6811787

Unless they can come up with something to rival both Gura's cunny buff and her singing, I predict we will see some sharing of power. Nijisanji is already starting to claw back some mindspace with some interesting talents like Selen and who knows what else in the future.

There's only one itty-bitty-huge-fucking-problem with this:
This is directly under Sony, so how do they expect co-operation from their competitors?

Assuming they need some form of e-entertainer route for this(read; streaming), they can't get permissions to stream stuff from their competitors, at least not at reasonable contract price. This applies to music too.
They could blow ridiculous amount of money into advertising, but I don't see how that would turn profit.

On another note, how badly will this fuck over existing v-tubers since Sony wants to maintain competitive advantage with their own stuff?

>>6811492
not limited

>>6811757
You wouldn't want to make Disney angry.

>>6811882
Imagine Disney holding auditions for their own vtuber group

>>6811868
Imagine Sony getting copyright-striked for their own stuff if they ever decided to stream

>>6811835
Niji isn't doing shit

>>6811787
Isn't it better to just have Sony buy Cover and let them operate on their own while also semi-merging with Niji to create the ultimate vtuber company in Japan? I don't see how recruiting 50 vtubers would be worth it.

>>6811935
>Imagine Disney holding auditions for their own vtuber group
OHONONONO

>>6811868
What permissions? Song covers? This is Sony Music, not the gaming division. And even if you were talking about games I don't see Microsoft or Nintendo having any vtubers so there's no competition to be had here.

What will actually happen: 49 of them will bomb and one will luck into a hit song

>>6811956
Believe it.

Disney gonna jump on virtual characters real hard if Sony succeeds.

>>6811835
With this, Nijiholo gonna go all out for overseas domination, leaving Sony to overtake their hometurf

>>6811956
I mean, what stopping them to make Mickey and Minnie becoming virtual vtubers? I can see them being popular around children, but it'll be funny as fuck if they play Apex.

How corporate is "too" corporate though? At least you can follow hololive back to very humble origins. Being a "sony vtuber" just sounds scummy.

>>6811190
Sony's effectively an American company these days, so that doesn't matter. Developers who are making visual novels that have no intention of translating them for the western market still have to comply with Sony's content standards, even having to contact representatives who only speak English.

https://www.siliconera.com/visual-novel-makers-light-talk-about-frustrations-with-sonys-new-policy/

>>6811956
Vtubers gonna tell me to buy Pepsi and subscribe to Disney+

>>6811968
obviously they can block competitive vtubers from using sony licensed music in any form.
an I'm pretty sure cucking gaming rights is just one email away...

>>6811048
So this is why Gibara and Lulu graduated

>>6811048
Sony's going to forbid their vtubers from doing or saying anything fun. Because fun is yab. And yab tarnishes their corporate image. Sonytubers will be so bland and boring that even nijiniggers beat them. Screencap this.

>>6812043
That's the vibe I get too, anon. Vtuber was such a niche and fun little place during pandemic, but then, it suddenly blew up. I want to see my oshis succeed, but you bet there's gonna be intervention from competitors. This is literally the next season arc after Coco's season finale. IRyS, the hope of EN and the coming EN 2 against the rise of niji and Sony.

I wonder what is Ichikara thinking now that one of their major investor suddenly turned into competitor overnight. They finally clawed their way into relevancy again against Hololive on international stage just to end up facing one of Japanese largest conglomerate. Talked about bad luck

>>6812089
holo went prosperous with this tactic, expect Sony to replicate this and turn Niji into a minnow agency

>>6812068
I can see Sony doing some petty move like trying to cuck other vtubers from streaming Sony games or at least get exclusive streaming rights for the first month or two, but I highly doubt they'll have any problem with getting non-Sony permissions unless those other corporations start getting their own vtubers and it turns into an actual corporate vtubing war.

>>6812047
PS and Music are different thing
Did you forget when Sony had lawsuit bullshit among themselves?

>>6812134
>corporate vtubing war
The future is dark

>>6811833
Tell that to sony. Megacorp vtubers will be neutered and PC as fuck

Man, Cover and Niji probs sweating bullets rn. This either results in a complete flop or Sony ends up crushing everyone underfoot with the power of MONEY to attempt to steamroll everyone. Maybe. It depends on how serious Sony wants to go in on this. This definitely leaves a rather bitter taste in my mouth though.

>>6812152
We legitimately are in the twilight of this scene having any semblance of organic growth

>>6812256
The new season after Coco's arc

>>6811750
I mean she already basically has to stand out among 50 talents as it is, starting the race halfway behind everyone else.

>>6812249
Wanting more than 50 streamers suggests that they're plenty serious. They're attempting to establish the second largest (in terms of streamer count) vtubing agency in Japan virtually overnight and that requires plenty of investment even before they begin.

>>6811211
You mean Nayuta.

>>6811724
>ch
thats Switzerland sasuga snoy

>>6812103
Niji seems hyperfocused on their male talents at this point anyway, having been boxed out of the side of the market Hololive dominates. Singing-focused vtubers will probably mostly miss Nijisanji's market segment, leaving them more unscathed than Hololive if Sony ends up being successful with this. However if Sony pulls all their money, sponsorships, and permissions they are pretty fucked.

>>6812134
>>6812334
yes, investing this much money in such short period of time with extreme pressure to provide numbers, I wouldn't hold "petty moves" off the table

besides, even 2 week exclusivity is major pain for other vtubers, effectively forcing them to outside "general interest time-period" for new games

>>6812389
>Language Settings
>Japanese
>English
>...Romansh?

>>6812393
>This year's “VEE Virtual Talent Audition” is looking for those who want to establish their own identity. No matter what gender you are, what you look like, what genre you are good at, what kind of streaming experience you have, or even your nationality.
>VEE is the largest virtual talent development and management project in history, to be launched by Sony Music Entertainment (Japan) Inc. or SMEJ, in 2021. We aim to debut over 50 virtual talents from this project, and in addition to life streaming and video production, we will develop music, voice acting and an array of creative activities for each virtual talent to make their "dreams" come true. Sony Music Group (Japan), which has developed a wide range of entertainment businesses, will support the activities of the virtual talents by making the most of its know-how and solutions.
They're not going for 50 singing/idol vtubers, nor are they solely going for girls. I'm willing to bet the makeup and activities of this project will be more similar to Nijisanji than Hololive when it launches.

>>6812393
Nah, you overestimate things. If Sony wants to compete, they'll only hurt the niji side as they're audience is going to be mostly JOPs. If they try to market overseas, it's going to fail. Hololive already has a combination of loyal EOPs, ESLs and JOPs on their side. They don't have that sweet secret recipes of memes on their side and they are gonna be heavily debuffed by big corpo names.

>>6812433
Does this mean that with a competitor aiming for Niji's head can holo be the no1 at hometurf now?

>>6812103
This is all Himawari's fault. Ichikara had their chance with Shinogono Project and only Mito followed through.

Is this why Iinchou is going full idol, to please the snoy overlords.

>>6812103
Anon, guess who'll be providing the live2d and 3d capture technology for sony's project. There's a reason why anycolor still brands itself as a tech company.

No matter how i look at it, this sounds like bad news. Well, it was fun while it lasted, it was a good run.

>>6812533
This. I don't think anything will change. The popular Niji livers will still be popular. What it mainly affects (if Sony's project takes off) is how easy it is to recruit future waves and how much they can expand, but they've already slowed down plenty in the first place.

>>6812533
Could it be anyone else or even in-house tho? I know Niji gave others their tech like 774 is using nijitech afaik but who else can compete in the tech sector tho?

not much will change except that next year's equivalent of YOASOBI or ado will stream apex 3 days of a week.

>>6812485
No, all it means is that either Niji continues to reign at the top or Sony takes the crown from them.

But will there a be any loli?

>>6812533
>providing the live2d and 3d capture technology
Kaguya… and sony? A big corporate doesnt have 3d mocap tech? Wow all those 3d game concerts in the past, ar tech they did with nijisanji town tour and nijifes

>>6811048
Oh shit niji in trouble

>>6812656
No

>>6812485
Hololive pretty much already beats them in the domestic market as well. Most Niji streamers have pretty anemic numbers, even the males, only a handful do well at the end of the day.

>>6812656
Of course.

>>6811048
Don't they already own a good chunk of Niji?

This shit is gonna be like every western 'anime' or 'manga'. They don't understand or care, but gotta have a piece of the pie.

>>6811048
>mega corporation dumping money to aggressively take over the market
THE FINAL YAB!!

Remember Kaguya Luna? Sony doesn't mean guaranteed success.

>>6811048
They do not understand that Vtubing is dependent on SOUL and corporate produced talents won't work. It will be like Bushiroad or that Netflix vtuber. Even Cover learned from the failures of Sora and Miko to avoid such things

No one is going to drop niji or holo just because you're an official "sony" product. Not really sure who this is directed at.

Hanatan, Nanahira, Merami, Kurokumo, F9, 3L, and some Tuhu doujin singer that disbanded Probably one of them

>>6812891
Santory-chan is SOVL

>>6812891
Spam them enough and it'll work, I'm confident they'll have what it takes to win the market

>>6812841
Imagine Crunchyroll anime but Japanese. Boomers have too much money on their hands and understand too little

>>6811968
Where did Sonic come from again? Capcom? I think these big corpos would have a chance if they used some of their recognizable game characters.

>>6812977
The only way it will be relevant is if Sony places shills on /vt/ like they do on /v/ lol

>>6812977
>Crunchyroll anime
Oh you just reminded me, have they finally released that anime original they said years ago? Spice girls or something?

>>6813023
no but we have kino

>>6812998
It's Sega you dolt. Megaman is Capcom's original mascot.

>>6812998
Kind of risky. Imagine if Mario accidentally calls someone a nigger or implies Taiwan is a country.

>>6812977
A SONY corporate vtuber will have 10 times more restrictions than Cover. Anyone with a little bit of talent will apply to other places

>>6812393
>he really thinks there sony music will have no male vtubers

>>6813084
What if Disney decides to have a Pooh vtuber?

>>6812971
peak SECKS
look at these fertile, breedable loins

>>6812971
>>6813165
also, I need a bigger res image to jack off

>>6813137

>>6811048
>plan to hire 50 vtubers
Vietnam flashbacks to the 100 vtuber project

Why are people concerned about this? Because it's Sony? Because it's 50 fucking new chuuba's entering the market and taking over the v-tuber scene and trying to force their way in with quantity > quality? Do people remember the past failures of Sony in the films and gaming division? Do people not remember the failures of gaming division now? This ain't gonna do shit.

The big appeal of v-tubers besides the whores from vShoujo is the organic relationship the holo talents have with their viewers and each other. Namely the parasocial relationship the holo's have with their gachikoi. I sincerely doubt that Sony trying to buy their way into the market with the 50 new v-tubers is gonna all of a sudden produce the next batch of Coco's or Gura's or hell, even Matsuri levels of chuuba's. This shit takes time and organic growth to get this popular, which is why even Nijisanji comes anywhere close to Cover in terms of numbers or sales because at lease they had a foot in the race when all of this popularity was popping off last year!

You'll probably get a handful at best of successful talents from Sony. At worse only 1 even makes it past a year without graduating or having the whole division from Sony being canceled. The very fact that Sony wants to start off with 50 v-tuber talents already means that some of the chuuba's are going to be destined to fail right from the get-go!

Now I know why Haato's fucking busy

>>6813382
she's busy fucking

>>6813402
yes, me

>>6812433
I love how they put "dreams" in quotation marks lol

>>6813378
>organic
>parasocial relationship the holo's have with their gachikoi
Do holofags really

>>6813378
Say what you want about the state of vtuber in JP but even with the developments we see these days, it's not that mainstream as you thought, there's still room to grow and since Sony is probably the most mainstream shit out there, you might wanna think that this is the push needed to bring vtuber to the wider mainstream market and with the financial backing they have, they can get the mainstream JP fags unlike the more niche nijiholo

>>6811048
So bets on how black they will be?
I except exclusivity clauses for next decade at least

>>6813437
shhhh, let that anon dream.

>>6813479
They'll be streaming in the epic game store.

>>6813378
Relax my dude with the exclamation marks. Why are you malding? Are you working for some kind of vtuber agencies and feeling threatend by this?
First off, they aren't releasing 50 people at the same time.
Secondly, they are allowing the talents to keep the characters.
Thirdly, if an organic relationship with corporate vtubers is an issue, all holoniji fans should switch to indies right now.

The good ending is Microsoft buying Hololive

>>6813528
>can only stream in windows 11
>forced to upgrade hardware

>>6813528
You want Hololive to end up like Minecraft?

>>6813544
>upgrade to windows 11
>their games and rigs run significantly slower because W11 is a CPU hog

>>6813528
So niji is bought by tencent then?

Will be mildly successful, at the level of less popular nijis at best.

>>6813622
Why do you think they're recruiting more zhangs.

>>6812047
Playstation =/= Sony Music. The two branches might as well be different companies entirely. Any fears you have about American politics and shit can be put to rest considering this seems solely focused on the Japanese market and its not Californians putting the project together. All doomposting about blacks and trannies is from people who think the Americuck run Playstation branch is all of Sony, which it isnt.
Also Cooperate doesnt equate to success as we've already seen. Most successes out of this will be established Vtubers who decide to keep their old personas.

>>6813378
>Why are people concerned about this? Because it's Sony?
>giant corporation with massive resources and a ton of music and game copyrights bruteforcing their way into a market where currently the biggest fish are 2 (relatively) tiny companies
Well yes I am concerned because it's sony

>>6811048
I can't help but read that as "v-pig genesis".

the final yab can't come soon enough, vtubing needs to die

>>6811048
Weird seeing all these big corporations jumping on the hype train right as it's slowing down. Gotta be a bit quicker.

>>6813805
Is it not supposed to be that? I thought it was about like paypigs or whatever.

>>6813437
Yeah, I do stand by what I said by calling it organic. This shit didn't just happen overnight and stayed that way because Miko say nigga. It got a boost in popularity and maintained its growth overtime because all of the Holo's were connected to each other and all promoted a sense of unity and friendship together, even if it's all fake or corporate mamdated. That is what separates Cover from any other v-tuber group. Why do you think Cover remains much more popular than Nijisanji, especially when Nijisanji implemented the same exact strategy that Sony is planning to do first and was the big dog in the beginning?

>>6813513
>Relax my dude with the exclamation marks.
I only put two exclamations in my entire post, I don't know wh

>Why are you malding?
Pic related. Enjoy your (You)

>>6813876
>imageposting instead of making a point

>>6813833
>Slowing down
Gura is inclining still and Irys has hit 500k subs in less than a month. Plus, all the current big tale talents and chuuba's are still making hand over dust in supachat money, even during their "declining" stage.

Based Sony wants to face hololive and niji head on

>>6813378
I am more worried about this flopping and taking 50 talented VSingers out of scene due to terrible contracts

>never have to worry about Holos playing Snoy games ever again
Thank you sony.

Actually, how will Sony profit from this? This seems more like it's doomed to fail before it could even get established.

Maybe I just hate Sony so much recently that I thought negatively about this, but I'm legit concerned about their plan to make this project successful. If they're just gathering 50 different Vsingers and slap every single songs sang by them under Sony, well good luck trying to get to the top chart in music store apps. Also since this is just in JP where the market might be quite saturated, can they even get enough people to watch them? Like the anon up there said before that they could just spam all sorts of ads but that's not gonna help their profit margin if the turnout is low.

What's the point of Sony investing in Anykara if they're going to attempt to do this anyway? God damn it Sony, wake the fuck up.

>>6813378
>Namely the parasocial relationship the holo's have with their gachikoi.
This.
Girlfriend Experience is just too damn powerful. Even nijilivers have trouble emulating it. And with Sony Vtubers not copying hololive's approach to things. The only agency I see being threatened here is the quantity loving Nijisanji.

>>6811048
I'm curious about 5ch opinion

I initially thought they were trying to do something like Kamitsubaki where it's just concerts and cover uploads but reading the corpobabble in site again it does look like they want something closer to the niji audience.

>You can create a story with your friends in real time.
>You can challenge yourself regardless of your past career.
>The potential of virtual live streamers/VTubers is still to be explored.

>>6814065
they want to run these upstart vtuber agencies out of the market before people stop watching their stupid anime shows

>>6813976
That's what gets me too. Over saturation of a market is never a good thing. Case in point, to make an example, soul like games in video and isekai in anime. I don't care how popular a certain genre or a trend is, eventually it all comes to a plateau and all that gets left are usually whoever remains at the top or close to the top to remain "successful". You see this shit everywhere.

Sadly, Sony to force the market with over 50 "new" talents is gonna make themselves compete against each other gladiator style to see who remains relevant at the end, if they manage to get relevant at all.

People already think cover is putting a fuckton of restrictions on their talent.
Now imagine sony.

Mori 5% Calliope will abandon the ship?

>>6813479
Probably 0% black, after the disaster that was Flare's career.

>>6814537
It'd depend how much Sony pays, Mori's got pretty good income through her songs, supacha and sponsored videos.

>>6811396
Wait, Harano is indie? I've seen her MVs being advertised multiple times and most of them have so many views that I always thought that she's a corporate chuuba.

>>6814600
Flare's a milk chocolate at best.

>>6814600
>dark elf is black
Dumbo

>>6814828
I read that as flare's milk is chocolate.

>>6812089
Old Sony corporate culture will indeed clamp down on the talents

Will Coco's "big projects" that she has been hinting possibly be part of this? I don't think she will pass as a Sony's VTuber, but perhaps a role in the creativity or management team?

will aloe join vee?

>>6815270
100%

>>6811048
So, Niji is gonna be dead when this come out, right? I really can't see how they can survive. They're struggling so hard right now trying to survive against Hololive's attacks, now there's gonna be 50 more people for them to fight.

>>6815267
She'll be engaged as an external consultant.

>>6815682
I can't imagine Coco's brand of humor and creativity will fit well with Sony's values though

>>6811048
Let's not bother with this anymore. It's 99.9% gonna be a flop. The one taking full heat from this is nijisanji. Cover is just gonna grow theirn EN audience and Holostars this year.

>>6815270
Does she need to?

>>6815267
if coco join sony, it will explain why she graduated from hololive, then I will fucking hate this bitch

So basically they are going the Nijiroute without even rebranding the indies with new models, i'm not the slightest bit concerned that they are gonna flood the market more than it already is.

On the other hand, Sony might forcefully drag vtubing into the mainstream in an attempt to make them succeed.

>>6815994
Depends on how much resources Sony is going to pour into this. She might earn more from salaries, merch and sponsorships than her current 2k$ or lower a month - and it's not like she can't just keep her fanbox around either.

>>6815842
Sony Music Japan is independent of Sony Music, but even if it wasn't she would be a perfect fit for an American company.

>>6816638
>she would be a perfect fit for an American company.
>Kiryu "What is trans rights?" Coco

Is this just gonna be kamitsubaki but with sony money? They can do well if they scout top tier talents I think.

Is this the doomed fate?

>>6812334
>>6813378
It doesn't matter anyways, judging from the schdule I'd be surprised if we see any of them before sometime in summer 2022

>>6816063
>Sony might forcefully drag vtubing into the mainstream in an attempt to make them succeed.
Son, vtubing is already mainstream, this ain't 2018 no more.

>>6812998
>Charles Martinet got started with his most famous roles by using a facerig to talk to attendees at trade shows as Mario and Wario
The possibility's there for Nintendo, at least.

>>6815899
>>6815613
>>6814110
Why would Nijisanji need to be worried here? Nijisanji have their own strong loyal fanbase with solid foundation in Japan. Your brain might be fucked up by Hololive bullshit numbers, but Nijisanji is still the top Vtuber company in Japan along with Hololive with huge gap between both of them and other companies. Big company venturing into vtuber industry is not new like how Bushiroad have their own Vtubers line, and Sony and Square-Enix bought Kaguya Luna and Mirai Akari. And this wouldn't effect Nijisanji or Hololives. Beside, big brand doesn't mean anyone will watch their chuubas either. Just like nobody watch Netflix vtuber.

Will Suisei or Azki jump ship? They have more chances with their music careers being with Sony than Cover, literally Sony music backing you up.

>>6820201
Don't underestimate Sony conglomerate, if they wanted they could choke to death Nijisanji and Cover.

>>6820394
I swear you Holobronies forgot that there are more companies outside Nijisanji and Hololive. If Re:Act, 774inc, .Live, VOMS, Noriopro, UniCreate, Eilene Family, Upd8, etc etc can do fine, then anyone will be fine.

>>6812971
mother bearing hips

>>6819501
Nijisanji alone will probably debut 50 new people by then.

>>6820628
>Upd8
>Doing fine
Anon, this ain't 2018 no more

>>6811048
>Sony

>>6821975
It's going to be 50 loud black women.

>>6816065
True. But I'm scared on how Sony will treat her should she succeed in getting the spot. Only time will tell if she decided to go back to working in a company.

>>6811048
Sora and Mito's daughter...

vee-pig-enesis

what does this mean?

>Minimum age requirement: 16 years old

They gave up on Nijisanji huh. i wonder how much capital was pulled out.

>>6823219
Assuming they didn't poach a few managers from nijisanji to help jumpstart their own vtuber project

>>6819501
if they get any big names they'll skip them straight to step 5

>>6812047
Hey if Playstation wants to run their agency Nyanners would be a perfect fit. They're the same kind of traitor anyway

>>6812930
merami...

With good marketing this may as well become a multimillionare market
Just wish i had a little sister or gf to explore

>>6812930
>hanatan
>nanahira
while I hate to see them taking part of sony's "grand" project, it might be a good opportunity for them. I love their comiket releases so much.

>>6824702
cut off your balls, anon, it's not too late

this is a great opportunity for (you) to get a paying job

>>6811048
This is going to kill Nijisanji. Hololive has the hardcore loyal otaku market so they are safe. This will totally surplant Nijisanji as the normie choice though. RIP AnyColor.

>>6822829
DSP is going to be the main star.

>>6824896
Unfortunately nobody here lives in Japan.

Yeah why, do think think gachikos are gonna superchat corporate entity?

>wanting to be under Sony's thumb
I hope nobody good applies, I can think of nothing good coming from this

>>6825119
As long as they make him a pig so his constant snorting is in character.

>>6826637
You mean like Cover Corporation and Anycolor Inc.?
It seems that you are implying gachikois are not gonna superchat vtubers associated with those 2 corporate entities. It also means you are an idiot.

>>6820628
>Holobronies
I know this is bait, but...

>If Re:Act, 774inc, .Live, VOMS, Noriopro, UniCreate, Eilene Family, Upd8, etc etc can do fine, then anyone will be fine.
>.Live
>Upd8
HAHAHAHA

What a joke.

>>6812743
No, they don't, stop being retarded.

>>6823219
That's not how it works retard. The money already is to her since last year and they still have a minority stake. You don't understand how any of this works.

Expect graduations for music focused vtubers.
This is massive if they want proper musical support.

>>6811048
>vee
>pig
>enesis

>>6826695
Pay might be pretty good, indies that aren't doing well will probably apply at least.

>>6811048
>open site
>because we are human
>because we are human
>because we are human
yeah, now im not buying that they are humans at all

>>6811048
>who will be treated like real talents
>Sony

>>6832683
seethe nintencucks

Fuck Sony, all I can see are empty promises
Everyone shits on holo saying they're corpo, but Sony is true corpo
People saying Cover and Niji eating half of the chuubas profits as robbery, but in the real music industry, artists only get 2% of the royalties for CDs
The talents might get more exposure from a high profile company, but they'll also get jewed hard by the levels and levels of middle and upper management that are leeching their earnings.
At least for Cover and I'm presuming Niji, the talents can potentially make more than the CEO through merit (YAGOO admitted Coco made way more than he does). Can't say the same about Sony.

>>6811048
>50 vtubers

>>6811935
>Imagine Disney holding auditions for their own vtuber group
this is the real ultimate nightmare scenario. Disney comes in and buys out hololive and nijisanji and kills off any bit of personality that the members have all while effectively owning 2 of the 3 companies with the most 3D tech in the vtuber space. Meanwhile normalfags cream their pants because they'll get to see Mito and Gura on the disney channel with spider-man and Ironman.

>>6834693
this is the rrat to end all rrats

>>6833873
>>50 vtubers
Yeah, that is enough for me to know Sony is going to fail.

It's like if a new Game Console is promising "50 new 1st party games at launch!"

This is going to turn into Fall Guys/Survivor, where dozens of them wouldn't even last the first 3 months. You might as well make a Battle Royale game out of it. There is no way there is enough customers to support that many NEW Vtubers at the same time.

>>6838862
Newfriend, can you bother to read the thread instead of inventing head canon?
Just like companies don't launch movies on the same date, nothing suggests the girls are debuting on the same date. Music is a well-established industry. To make sure a song sells well, you need a lot of marketing effort, and pick the right release date etc. Sony has a lot of experience there.

>>6839360
>Newfriend, can you bother to read the thread instead of inventing head canon?
>Just like companies don't launch movies on the same date, nothing suggests the girls are debuting on the same date. Music is a well-established industry. To make sure a song sells well, you need a lot of marketing effort, and pick the right release date etc. Sony has a lot of experience there.
But why even "announce" they have 50 Vtubers? Hololive itself has 53, but it isn't like anyone cared to count. i didn't know until I actually googled it just now.

if they are going to do it properly and slowly grow the number, then announcing they will have 50 just seems weird. i still think they ARE going to throw in 50 members and prune the weak afterwards. Because why announce that NOW?

>>6839598
im guessing it actually shows a bit of desperation or arrogance on their part, since they are saying they only accept a limited number compared to other agencies that will hire new ones from time to time.

>>6839598
That is what you think. The plan doesn't make sense to me. And as you say it doesn't make sense to you either, just that you believe Sony will follow a plan that is nonsensical.
They will need time and money to market new songs to the public in order to get any kind of chart-topping successes. You can't do that for 50 new songs.

>>6811048
>Application conditions: Those who are 16 years old or older

>>6839844
>im guessing it actually shows a bit of desperation or arrogance on their part, since they are saying they only accept a limited number compared to other agencies that will hire new ones from time to time.
I do hope you are right and I am wrong. Because what I interpreted would likely result in a lot of bad PR for Vtubing. I don't really want that.

>>6839973
>That is what you think. The plan doesn't make sense to me. And as you say it doesn't make sense to you either, just that you believe Sony will follow a plan that is nonsensical.
>They will need time and money to market new songs to the public in order to get any kind of chart-topping successes. You can't do that for 50 new songs.
Nijisanji has 182 active members, now that I looked.
I just felt something is wrong. To even throw in the 50 number just seemed to offer no benefit, and even if they succeed I doubt they would truly stick to that number.

Sony is rich. But being rich is not enough to make something sell. Obviously Sony Music is experienced with music industry, but I wonder if they understood what makes Vtubing work?

>>6811935
Astel instant graduation and Re debuting as a furry shota disney character.

>>6811048
???

sony already owns nijisanji?

are they saying that nijisanji is not adequate and they are trashing all of them for newer generation?

>>6811437
nah sony supports china they will never allow her,
im guessing maybe miya kimino is gonna be there. the timing is perfect for her graduation

>>6811935
>Imagine Disney holding auditions for their own vtuber group
There are a tonne of out of work Disneyland employees right now. I am sure some of them would sign up to be Disney characters in livestream. They would all have to be G rated of course.

>>6833243
sony owns nijisanji though

>>6840895
>sony owns nijisanji though
Just stockholders.

>>6815270
Why would she? She publicly said she hates all corpos. If she didn't come back to Cover despite all the support and money she'd get why join an even more corpo one?

>>6840756
You may be referring to this. It is an investment made by Sony and other companies.
https://sojapan.jp/2020/04/virtual-youtuber-company-ichikara-receives-jpy-1-9b-investment-from-sony-music/
There is also the fact that people like Tsukino Mito cooperates musically with Sony.

But it doesn't mean direct ownership. Sony is now starting their own in-house talents. Probably they took a look at the niji singers and think Sony can do better. They say the talents will be treated like real Sony singers like Aimer.

>>6812049
tiger and bunny already had that shit with pepsi lol

>>6840878
The ones that work/ed in their parks would do well I imagine, Disney parks are famous for having all their staff stay in character 24/7.

>>6841119
Yeah, it might've been because of Sony underperformance to return that $17M that they are taking control by themselves. Tbf, it happened during April 2020, and Hololive came booming on May 2020

>>6841509
Niji's underperformance*

>>6841509
I wonder if a bunch of nijis are gonna get released by anycolor and then they just flock over to sony

>>6812110
man fuck hololive for attracting these shitty pureity fags this is entryism at its finest, vtubing used to be such a nice cozy place and part of the vn community with shitposting and skits and roleplaying videos, now its just boring akb 48 idolshit, there is a reason why akb48 is declining in japan they are literal garbage, people like alt idols more nowdays

>>6841866
Gibara? Lulu?

>>6842282
I heard Gibara graduated to pursue other dreams(voice acting?) while Lulu left due to stalkers and death threats she was receiving.

>>6841921
>shitty pureity fags
People who complain about purity fags are quite hypocritical.
If you don't believe me, list the most popular female vtubers, including even the most anti-idol and anti-purity girls you know, and see how many of them have admitted to currently having a boyfriend on stream. And I don't mean hidden BTS details schizos dig up.

Why don't female vtubers do that more, especially if they claim to be anti-purity? Even the most unseiso loud-mouths like Finana don't do that. There are only 2 kinds of female vtubers. Those who accept their desirability comes from their status as an untaken female (though virtual), and those who pretend they are above all that.

>>6841119
>Probably they took a look at the niji singers and think they can do better.
they definitely can do better, just take a look at the talents signed with SMEJ

>>6812249
Why would Nijisanji sweat over it when Sony is burning a shitton of their money on Mito who doesn't even guarantee that she'll bring enough profits to pay back their investment? Several Nijisanji livers are also signed with other big music labels and they could probably just slip another one or two of them in Sony's new program if they want.

>>6811048
Chances of Coco and Lulu moving here?

>>6811048
>Sony
They all will be trannies

>>6852291
>Coco
>singing
>under corpo that is even more family friendly than Cover

>>6852291
no. just. no. Give up anon. Coco will never be able to make buttplug jokes if she gets in there. Lulu's a different case since she's unwinding all the stress that those damn stalkers put onto her for a while.

>>6852410
>Implying they wouldnt Kizuna ai coco and replace the actor.

I can see Sony trying to pull some shit like this and hire someone to play a family friendly coco to try to milk her old most superchated status.

>>6852291
Coco's not going to be streaming as a Sony vtuber, she's going to be hired as management for the project

>>6852476
How will that even work out in the first place considering Cover owns Coco's model and character? Sony gonna make some dragon vtuber pretend to be like Coco?

>>6852566
Shitty corporate bootleg not coco of course. They'll try to figure out what made her cool and copy it, and it'll be soul less as fuck.

>>6811124
△

>>6811124
>Come join Sony agency, you can use your OC so we don't need to do any work in making you a new model, we will offer you no support, and will take a cut of your revenue. Doesn't that sound great?
People will actually do it.

Sony already has some experience making Virtual avatars with 22/7 idol group. Though they do show the live actors when they do concerts. Also they have TV shows one that just shows their Virtual avatars and their real live self's on another show.

https://youtu.be/gymprgb5m38

https://youtu.be/D_nmBFn4DKY

>>6853198
Image of group.

>>6840756
A good segment of Nijisanji's talents still treat streaming as a hobby or a part time job, and that doesn't suit the direction Sony wants to take thier vtuber project in.

>>6853072
Would be worth it if they get a base salary like Cover does with the Holo members.

>>6853224
did they take the character designers from kyoani to do this?

>>6853072
>>we will offer you no support
>We will prepare the best stage for your talent and effort. We also aim for the highest level of return rate of distribution revenue. In addition to daily support, large-scale live performances, overseas transmissions, commercial appearances, etc., we will spare no effort to support a wide variety of people to make their dreams come true. However, that doesn't mean that you have a cheat to make your dreams come true. The world will not accept you if you think you are wearing geta that is not worth your ability. I hope that you, your fans, and your VEE friends, will hone your talents, become real, and capture your dreams.

>>6844159
Counterpoint: Tamaki

>>6853303
I told you guys people would fall for it

>>6811554
Sony Music is big in Japan anon. And they have a group like 22/7 that does decently well for a virtual idol group. They got decent support like that anime series even if it was awful it still brought in more fans to the group.

>>6853261
Could be great for indies actually if there's no contract saying that Sony owns their character when they sign.
>get advertised and featured by Sony
>receive a stable salary
>quit when it starts seemingly not worth it
>keep the fanbase you might gotten since you still have the model you joined them instead of having to reincarnate

>>6811795
Did they? I thought they just sponsored Holo concerts. Did Bushiroad do their own Vtuber group?

>>6853324
>I was merely pretending to be retarded

>>6813084
They will be pre-recorded to avoid those problems.

>>6814065
Concerts and gatcha games.

>>6853382
IIRC, technically they did with a very small group of 3 VTubers or something? That project started around Dec last year and, unfortunately, didn't seem to go anywhere

>>6853671
Well that's not a very convincing plan to success, even for Sony.

>>6853315
Also not a girl character. Tamaki is all-around a weird case.

>>6811048
The only good thing that could come of this is a Bloodborne themed vtuber. Even then it’d probably be shit because Sony.

>>6856500
cringe

>>6811048
>sony
i fucking knew it, it's happening. the fucking rrats predictions about the future of chuubas. they're all gonna be lifeless, soulless, corporate husks that will be heavily limited on what they can say and do since sony's image is on the line. i bet they're gonna shill their products through them and i dont think i can accept this.

>>6862523
rrat schizos were time travelers, they warned us.