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What a nice day to watch a Vtuber company that doesn't abuse its talents to the point of suicide or hire sex pests.

>> No.68524387

>>68524302
Tenma is a sex pest. She just happens to be cute as well.

>> No.68524474

>>68524387
Can confirm, I am her victim. It's great.

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>>68524302
Panko gave me an erection against my will.

>> No.68524775

Pippa raped me with her pippenis but nobody will believe me, what do I do?

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>>68524775

>> No.68524954

It's because of the hags, they are the key to success

NijiEN no longer has hags, therefore it's imploding.

>> No.68525163

>>68524954
>It's because of the hags, they are the key to success
>NijiEN no longer has hags, therefore it's imploding.
You know that can actually be a factor? young people (male or female doesn't matter) are dumb as fuck and do dumb shit all the time. With age comes wisdom. Not always, not for everyone, but generally this is true. So having hags in the company can actuallyy improve the overall quality.

>> No.68525400

>>68524302
phase connect is lit a western company with 100% jp business practices when it comes to vtubing.
all the effort of their streamers are going to be wiped out when they graduate.

>> No.68525442

>>68525400
What does this even mean?

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>>68524302
Why hire sexpests when you can outsource them to other companies.

>> No.68525491

>>68524302
Phase seem genuinely well managed in comparision to most, it's just a shame about their talents. Uruka is alright I guess.

>> No.68525494

>>68524941
NOT AGAIN PIPPA NO

>> No.68525703

>>68525442
it means it's garbage when you get big

>> No.68525973

Phase has the strongest Gen1 since Myth. You're only as good as your foundation, and Phase is built on a strong foundation.

As soon as you lose that Gen1 foundation, the house collapses. See Pomu leaving NIJIEN. it sends a message that IF a founding member is bailing on your company, then shit is bad.

>> No.68526075

>>68524302
The CEO has publicly called his talents retards. Shit's fucked. It's only not Niji tier because of how irrelevant they are.

>> No.68526076

>>68524387
my tenma used to be happy with being creampied once every few days but as time passes she becomes more demanding. just yesterday I wasn't allowed to leave the house until I came inside her twice and then she needed more the second I came back home. is this normal? how often do you guys have to cum inside your tenma to keep her happy?

>> No.68526103

>>68525973
I'd argue more inline with JP1 who was an extremelystrong Gen going by the things they dealt with and just how ling and far they carrelied things. Phase hasn't had their Myth yet.

>> No.68526151

>>68526075
Because they are.

>> No.68526197

>>68525973
in 6 weeks, Phase Origins will have outlasted LazuLight.
Origins grow stronger each year, where LazuLight have grown weaker and weaker.

>> No.68526215

>>68524302
They don't have to, they've been abused enough

>> No.68526272

>>68525400
I think you can negotiate to keep your IP as an invader

>> No.68526326

>>68525491
Phase is saved by good middle management, the CEO is decent as a businessman but he's come close to crashing the company multiple times because of some utterly retarded talent management decisions on his part.

>> No.68526393

>>68526272
We don't know that. All we know is notorious liar Lumi saying "all contracts are different"
The only way we will know when she graduates and if she stays as Lumi on the indies.
>Yuri sold her IP to Phase
>Jelly, Dizzy and Ember got new ones that were similar but different to their others
Given history, I'm inclined to believe Phase owns Lumi.

>> No.68526440

>>68526075
Anon...a majority of the talents actually do have autism, so he is literally stating facts.

>> No.68526465

>>68524387
There is no such thing as female sex pests

>> No.68526495

>>68526440
literally only 1 of 27 is diagnosed. the others use it as a common buzzword

>> No.68526498

>>68526465
My molester would beg to differ

>> No.68526571

>>68526075
You don't understand how good it is when you and your boss can openly banter.

>> No.68526647

>>68526495
You know what? You got me there, but I wouldn't be surprised if the others did go out and get tested and it's confirmed they do have some form of autism.

>> No.68526845

at the end of the day Phase Connects skeletons will fall out of their closet eventually, but until then enjoy the ride.
Like Lia says about her own streaming career:
>I'm here for a good time, not a long time.

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HOW DO WE RESPONSE, NIJISIS

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>>68526495

>> No.68527058

>>68526845
Pippa, Lia and Tenma are approaching their 3-year anniversaries. That is great lifespan for a corpo vtuber. People have been predicting their demise since month 1, and they are still here and doing well.

Those 3 above the rest have lived fulfilled careers and achieved their vtubing dreams, so if it comes tumbling down they can say they got the most out of it (whereas if it crashed tomorrow, most of Gen2/Gen3 would probably be left unfulfilled imo)

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Gentle Dickcissel and fellow tourists. We must recognize it is not the early days of vtubing any longer. Doki isn't some young two view indie looking for a big break. She is now an industry veteran. Allow her to pave her own path and if she chooses to return to a corporation then so be it but at this moment and for the foreseeable future she is an indie one of the most subscribed indies at that. The time for these debates will come but not now when the wounds are still so fresh.

>> No.68527132

>>68527084
Ooof misfires my post.

>> No.68527320

>>68525163
>vshojo got rid of Vei and Silver, young drama queens
>hired Geega and Matara, experienced hags
>quality way up
It all makes sense, hags are the key.

>> No.68527512

>>68524387
God imagine being her willing victim.

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>>68525491
Phase's story is the opposite of Niji's. It was about to collapse hard with the gen 1 girls going menhera overdrive until Phase's first manager appeared and successfully tardwrangled everyone by being a woman who understands woman brain. Fish learned from this and only hires female managers. There used to be male managers but they were purged (with the exception of the head of JP) after a company-wide collab turned into a fuckup.

>> No.68527654

>>68525400
>no perms autism
That's like 70% of JP business practice already.

>> No.68527732

>>68527588
>after a company-wide collab turned into a fuckup
What collab was it?

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>>68524302
It's ok to abuse mentally ill people

>> No.68527874

>>68524387
I'm one of her victims (volunteer)

>> No.68527906

>>68527588
qrd me
im interested. not to shitpost but because i genuinely am growing to like tenma lately.

>> No.68527921 [DELETED] 

>>68524302
Nah, The talents go in openly suicidal to begin with.

>> No.68528032

>>68527588
Wasn't there a rrat going around that Muumi, the company's savior manager, used to work for Niji?

If true then the fucking irony...

>> No.68528048

>>68527588
Phase is probably the first true EN start up corpo success story.
Hololive and NIJISANJI are JP companies and had the infrastructure in place by the time they opened EN branches.

vShojo, while EN, is more so an alliance of sorts that hired already big names, so the big name talents made the company. Phase discovered 2views, 1views, 0views and helped them grow alongside the company.

>> No.68528061

The talents go into Phase Connect mentally ill (80 percent of phase) and openly suicidal ( Pippa and maybe Lia) and slowly are healed.
Phase Connect is a mental hospital.

>> No.68528093

>>68526465
There is if they are ugly

>> No.68528144
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I just think it's funny when the crazy women scream at the incompetent fishman

>> No.68528172

>>68528061
>Openly suicidal [...] and slowly are healed
You clearly do not know of Himemiya Rie. Becoming a phase talent has done the opposite for her. I'd argue that Saya and Muyu are on the same route, but for different reasons (Saya being who she is and Muyu's sole purpose is to be a plaything for god).

>> No.68528187

>>68528032
Former Niji JP talent manager

>> No.68528323

>>68528032
Just a rrat.

>> No.68528343

>>68528172
>You clearly do not know of Himemiya Rie
nobody does. and for good reason. she could graduate tomorrow and it would be met with "who?"

>> No.68528346

>>68528187
Holy shit. I didn’t even know that. It might explain why she doesn’t ever appear on stream. Of course, I think Phase has grown enough that she could go over well even with an ESL accent. Maybe Phase having lots of EOPs who don’t care about JP vtubers is why they don’t think she could become Phase’s A-chan.
Or, maybe Muumi doesn’t want to show up on stream, but nahhhh thats retarded

>> No.68528410

>>68527906
Fishman kind of started Phase on a whim without any prior experience with vtuber corpos, basically because Marine was his oshi and he had money to spend. He initially ran it way more strict trying to make it some Hololite company, even to the point of the talents not being able to say the names of certain countries. Obviously chuubas like Pippa and Lia didn’t take kindly to all that wrangling and there were various bouts of menhera throughout Phase’s 1st year, even flirting with graduation from time to time. Eventually the Fish chilled out and hired Muumi to manage the girls because he couldn’t deal with women problems, so now he basically focuses on what he’s good at and lets the staff do what they’re good at.

>> No.68528424

>>68528172
I know she’s the Alias member I watch the most, because I prefer non-gaming streams and her non-gaming streams are creative as hell.
Beyond that, all I know is that /pcg/ is mocking her more and more lately, and not just for the usual “shat on JK Rowling during debut” nothingburger. What the fuck is going on?

>> No.68528427

Yes anons. At the time Muumi was hired, Phase Connect's biggest talent was 150ccv and nobody was making money. They totally bagged the NIJI JP talent manager. It's true.
She went from a huge corpo with stars to having Pippa and Lia take annoying trauma dumps on her 24/7.

>> No.68528461

>>68528427
I really don't get why people believe this rrat kek.

>> No.68528476

Don't put PC in the spotlight during nijisanji drama

>> No.68528477

>>68528427
lol it worked out in the end didn’t it?

>> No.68528500

>>68527732
Phase Wars

>> No.68528567

>>68526075
The talents have openly called the CEO an idiot. Phase survives because the CEO has the ability to learn and doesn't tread talents like property.

>> No.68528569

> precious innocent child uruka forced to get a new model with ridiculous breasts by the ceo
> asks for smaller breasts
> gets power hara’d but also gets her wish because the ceo is both a pest and a pushover
black company

>> No.68528659

>>68528569
Should’ve made them bigger desu

>> No.68528682

>>68528427
Nasa used to be a talent for AnyColor. Yumenographia most specifically
She said it was a black company

>> No.68528711

>>68528569
Have you seen how poorly Uruka does in supas? She has been dead weight and they had to sex her up in order to bait more money.

>> No.68528718

>>68528410
thanks.
cause ive watched both pippa and tenma's first few streams and current streams
and holy fuck there's just stark difference.

>> No.68528726

>>68528424
She kept trying to make things about her on Twitter for various announcements. I don't mind Rie but she's an entitled brat.

>> No.68528727

>>68528343
Kek, don't do her like that anon.
>>68528424
>What the fuck is going on?
She's unfortunately a victim of poor mental health and she has been spiraling more and more, to the point that her dedicated fans switched over to watching Runie as their new girl of choice. As an outsider who tried watching her last year it does feel a little bad to see because she is very talented, but she could never find the level of success that some of the other members with similar skill sets did.

>> No.68528778

>>68528410
>Fishman kind of started Phase on a whim without any prior experience with vtuber corpos, basically because Marine was his oshi and he had money to spend
He wanted to invest in Tsunderia but didn't get a response, so he went "fuck it, I'm just gonna make my own"

>> No.68528816

>>68528410
>whim
He started it out of spite anon. He wasn't allowed to invest in another corpo (tsunderia I think) so he started his own.

>> No.68528831

>>68528718
If anything, Lia's redebut is the best example.

>> No.68528858

>>68528424
a few bitos flamed out due to their perception that rie has shifted more to pandering (which I don’t see desu) or maybe unicorn reasons after the m*le collab, other people like joining in the party

>> No.68528914

>>68528424
She drank water straight from a dog bowl
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QXsU3awhI4

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>>68528569

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>>68524302

>> No.68529046

>>68526907
Cute tardwife

>> No.68529069

>>68528727
>Kek, don't do her like that anon.
i wish she wasn't a literal who. during the homocollab Lia and Ollie took 100% of the beatings in the catalog nobody even cared Hime was there and she is the one who literally set it up.

>> No.68529125

>>68528816
Honestly I figured this was just a rrat

>> No.68529170

>>68528569
Sounds like a healthy conversation between the numbers guy and the entertainer.
>I want smaller tits
>Dude, big tits get views and you’re kind of a shitter
>Dumbass, big tits get coomers and I’m too menhera for that.
>You make a good point. You’re a few bad days away from a legit yab.
>Thank you for seeing things my way.
I imagine every conversation with Fishman goes something like this, with the occasional exception where he convinces them of his POV. Which, if true, is pretty refreshing and a lot more say than most talents get.

>> No.68529180

>>68528858
I tried watching her and she can be entertaining but she's struggling to find her niche. She needs to focus on what she does well and enjoys

>> No.68529205

>>68528424
>all I know is that /pcg/ is mocking her more and more lately
I personally don't like the unironic hate she has been given as of late but Rie does have problems and I honestly think she's better off graduating if she doesn't kill the brain worms soon. Her streams are either KINO or absolute fucking shit. No in-between. There's a reason a lot of /pcg/ anons describe her as someone who shoots herself in the foot because that's what she does. I do still believe Muumi can tard-wrangle her but I am losing hope if she can even be tard-wrangled when Mummi literally has all the JP gen to tard-wrangle too.

>> No.68529260

>>68528172
>>68528427
>Himemiya Rie
We can see that she's trying too hard, comes across as fake. Then with a very light googling you find her PL defending trannies and everything makes sense. No idea what she's doing at PC, really.
>>68528778
And now he collects ex-Tsunderia girls. Dramatic irony.

>> No.68529294

I'm 100% convinced Uruka is a tranny but he sings well and can play the violin so he's cool in my book

>> No.68529297

>>68528778
>>68528816
ironic since tsunderia went under.

>> No.68529299

>>68529170
>big tits get views
the 3 biggest tits in the company (Airi, Dizzy and Erina) are the 3 biggest raid babbies that rely almost entirely on raids.

you meant to probably say is
>big tits get money
which is 100% true. Dizzy has made the some amount of supas in 8 months as Uruka has made in 3 years.

>> No.68529344

>>68529125
Nah, it’s well-known. It’s why so many Phase members are former Tsunderia members. Fishman knew Dizzy back when she was in Tsunderia as Urara (it’s not against the rules to say that, she’s an invader and literally streamed with her old model once as a joke), and he probably wanted to invest in Tsunderia because he saw talent there.

>> No.68529554

>>68529260
>No idea what she's doing at PC, really.
She does music production and has actual idol training from an institute in Korea.

>> No.68529565

>>68529344
>he saw talent there.
He saw Purin's cunny potential UOH.

>> No.68529596

>>68529554
sucks for her that Phase is not and never will be an idol music company.

>> No.68529620

>>68529554
wish she had a non-chibi 3d so she could use the latter more

>> No.68529621

>>68529260
>>68529297
Not ironic, more poetic. Fishman could only have wanted to invest in Tsunderia if he liked the talent. The only thing wrong with Tsunderia was the upper management, especially that useless piece of shit CEO. And I bet he had *some* knowledge (or intuition) of what the company was like because of Dizzy. Meaning he probably had reasons to believe everything about the company but the management was great, hence the poaching.

>> No.68529732

>>68528914
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChHESuEV2cM

>> No.68529754

>>68529620
This. Her chibi 3D streams were the reason I gave her a chance last year and she was always very cute in them. I can just imagine her getting a proper 3D model would open up a lot of possibilities for her content.

>> No.68529798

>>68529297
They went under because the CEO did fuckall, not because of any of the talents, so it makes perfect sense

>> No.68529807

I like Ember
She feels too normal to be in PC

>> No.68529825

>>68525400
I love this retarded shit that's going around that Japan invented IP and copyright law

>> No.68529829

>>68529299
>the 3 biggest tits in the company (Airi, Dizzy and Erina) are the 3 biggest raid babbies that rely almost entirely on raids.
Which is so ironic that they get the paypigs. Not sure if Airi has beaten Dizzy in supas.
>>68529596
DYRBI? Their recent emphasis on talents who can sing and that whole tease from Gen 3 and JP Gen 1 about having 3D concerts are becoming so apparent. You can argue that it's going to be a failure of a venture but they are obviously headed in that direction.

>> No.68530026

>>68529344
Well I knew that part, but Tsunderia was pretty well respected in the small corpo scene. I figured fishman was picking up ex Tsunderia members because that corpo had a lot of good talent and untapped potential. I don't know if this alone confirms that he was eyeing up Tsunderia before making Phase, it'd just be a shame to let all that talent go to waste.

>> No.68530154

>>68529596
>>68529829
It's strange that Phase seems to be going for that route now. Euphoria had a debut song that came out a few weeks after their debut, and it is even worse than generic idol unit slop. Lia also soft confirmed that they have at least one other idol/music unit like A/SLUR on her collab with Dizzy, so they are definitely gonna keep pushing for that direction. I don't think it's a bad market to tackle, especially given that they've got girls like Runie and Eimi now, the latter being a music production fiend on par with Jelly in terms of music autism. I just think that the Alias and Origins fanbases don't care about idol shit, but maybe Euphoria and Kaleido's fans will be more open to it.

>> No.68530224

>>68530154
Feels like it's just something Fishman himself is into. I still think it's a mistake.

>> No.68530249

>>68530154
Anything that makes Pippa sing the Ripper live again

>> No.68530286

>caters to kiwi-fags, /pol/-tards and SEA-niggers
Hard pass.

>> No.68530289

>>68529807
>Ember
>normal

>> No.68530331

>>68530286
There's no catering. It just ended up attracting those people and the reputation lingers like smell on a pajeet.

>> No.68530403

>>68530286
still less SEA than HoloNiji

>> No.68530428

I like Eimi from the new girls because she has a thinly veiled vore fetish and that shit is kinda hot

>> No.68530444

>>68530286
>>68530331
>cries about /pol/
>says "nigger" and "pajeet"
What confusing creatures you are

>> No.68530489

>>68530154
Phase isn’t that small anymore so I think they have the luxury to expand their horizons from time to time. Some of the girls like doing it so i think its cool even if it’s not in big demand from Phase.

>> No.68530505

>>68530154
I don't find it strange. The fact that they're branching out in Japan says it all. They literally have Clara who's basically a veteran in that industry be the face of Kaleido. Also, she has been teasing her sololive too so you have that.
>>68530286
>Not a new IP
RORU RUMAO

>> No.68530571

Ive watched her, and Rie is a poor man’s version of Lia

>> No.68530647

>>68530571
That poor man is me btw

>> No.68530652

>>68530489
Don't get me wrong, there's definitely nothing bad about them pursuing musical endeavors. However, I think they haven't had anything actually well produced yet that makes people take them seriously when it comes to music. If they continue to work on it and improve then that's great, I am personally a musicfag and would like to see good things from them.

>> No.68530655

>>68530571
her model is so hot

>> No.68530693

>>68526495
2, didn't Shiina also get a diagnosis?

>> No.68530791

>>68530652
>I think they haven't had anything actually well produced yet that makes people take them seriously when it comes to music.
Have you heard Runie and Eimi's Original songs? They're earworms. Although, I personally think Runie's original is the best in the EN sphere. Clara's is pretty catchy too.

>> No.68530807

>>68530693
No, she has a bum heart but otherwise normal

>> No.68530819

>>68530444
If you had to interact with Indians for a year you too would be racist. Pray it never happens to you.

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>>68528500
>male managers were purged because of Phase Wars
>Phase Wars was a fuckup
Anon?

>> No.68530883

I wonder when retards will learn to accept that Holo will outlive all these shit corpos. Don't even try anymore, keep living in Holo's shadow forever it's pathetic watching you faggots astroturf these shitters.

>> No.68530950

>>68530883
>only likes thing if it has le big number
You must love Disney and the NBA tjrn

>> No.68530973

>>68530883
ogey

>> No.68530984

Hey fags I'm just passing by but I wanted to say the amount of lust I feel for Dizzy's girlfailure persona is not normal I can't watch one her streams without getting a boner. Also fuck you all who are shitting on my cute princess, she's a nice girl, she just needs to do more little sister stuff, us incest chads will fund any project she wants if she panders to us more.

>> No.68531033

>>68530807
This >>64459623 livepost disagrees, but I'm too lazy to confirm.

>> No.68531053

>>68529825
that's not what anon said

>> No.68531086

>>68530950
>Implying Holo was this big from the start
You are too new phasefag...

>> No.68531225

>>68530571
Hime trying hard to be Lia is cringe

>> No.68531256

>>68530791
>Have you heard Runie and Eimi's Original songs?
Yes, and they're really good but I don't think they're the best things ever. Dissonance in particular was a great introduction to Eimi, but after having sat through her 8 hour stream where she showcased the art (and then spent 6 hours drawing up a shitpost) I think that is what takes the cake when it comes to the MV. Runie's song is a nice intro to her but I don't think it's anything special in terms of the production value behind the music itself. I do think everyone can admit that her singing ability is off the charts, which you can also tell from Into Euphoria is miles ahead from anyone in Phase. I also didn't like Clara's song to be honest, but that's just me.

>> No.68531273

>>68531086
nta, you weren't there at the start
see >>68530950

>> No.68531326

Please stop shilling this awful company intern, hope sakana is paying you well

>> No.68531331

>>68524302
Sakana is a faggot and will never be the western Yagoo. I can’t watch Phase without him being mentioned. He seems like a narcissistic pos. It’s also funny that most catalognigs aren’t even Holo or Nijifags, they’re phasefags.

>> No.68531349

Rie feels like she was able to drop the act of whatever the fuck she was pretending to be before she joined Phase and then enhanced her opinions by 10%.

>> No.68531355

>>68531326
Please keep seething, it’s funny.

>> No.68531495

>>68531355
>two Coffee beans have been added to your account

>> No.68531522

>>68531331
>One phase catalog thread that is not a general
>catalogniggers are phasefags
It's just embarrassing at this point.

>> No.68531594

>>68526272
tell that to Yuuri lol

>> No.68531616

>>68531273
>you weren't there at the start
I saw Kizuna Ai and Niji gettin dethroned and I saw Holo rise during the /jp/ era. I saw many western vtubing company trying your same stunt and failing over and over, only Holo is still standing. All the others just learn to adapt and live in their shadow. Holo at the time managed to plasm a new concept of vtubing, phasesharts, tsunderia retards, liggers and so on don't understand that vtubing is not streaming and to beat or to stand side by side with Holo you must do what Holo did at the time, recreate the game structure from the basics.

>> No.68531664

>>68531616
WAO Look at this expert!

>> No.68531712

Why does every Phase general uses AI art on their OP? Do they not have fan artists?

>> No.68531732

>>68531616
Stop larping as one of Sofa-chan's knights
It's embarrassing

>> No.68531746

>>68531712
All the good artists work for Holo.

>> No.68531807

>>68531522
Don’t you see? All the catalog bait is because of BVTM and his band of Phasefag flying monkeys sowing the seeds of discord on /vt/.

>> No.68531831

>>68531732
I accept your concession phasenig. Enjoy your stay out the walled garden.

>> No.68531845

>>68531616
That's not the start dipshit, everyone saw that. You HEARD of Holo's start but only saw them in 2019 when they had already gone viral like everyone else, stfu.
>>68531712
Early baker is a faggot obsessed with AI slop.

>> No.68531861

>>68531616
Still not going to watch your teletubbies with tits.

>> No.68531886

The poster counter hasn't gone up in over an hour

>> No.68531927

>>68531886
Are you numberfagging random catalog threads?

>> No.68531930

>>68531845
>>68531831

>> No.68531936

>>68531886
these are both new new IPs, so am I
>>68531712
>>68531732

>> No.68531966

>>68531886
So you're saying that people aren't just drive by posting in a thread and then immediately leaving? They're having a discussion? Wow, crazy!

>> No.68532053

>>68531966
The only one having a discussion is the weeb holofag. Phasefags struggle to form complex sentences.

>> No.68532098

The only old relevant corpos alongside Phase are MyHoloTV who isn't relevant and stopped debuting long ago, Kawaii who is barely surviving after gen 3 debacle, and Prism who sold their soul to Sony Music Japan Entertainment. Id say Phase is definetly the only old small corpo thats still relevant

>> No.68532144

>>68531886
>it has gone up by 13 in the last 30 minutes
I forgot how mentally ill catalogfags are.

>> No.68532152

>>68531712
the only Phase girl that has actual artists are Pippa and Lia. Most of the art of the other girls is drawn by Pippa and Lia's artists

>> No.68532169

>>68532053
Me when I am a blind retard.

>> No.68532181

This is a good clip to watch see his relationship with the talents.
https://youtu.be/A2N5UxPf6o4

>> No.68532204

>>68532169
Thank you for proving my point Pablo.

>> No.68532210

>>68524387
>Phase femcels
>Cute
The company really attracts the sewerrats huh

>> No.68532234

Why is it that the Gen1's rarely use Sakana as content, and it is Invaders that rely so heavily on him for content?

>> No.68532310

>>68532181
Especially around 4:50

>> No.68532319

>call out the stagnant poster counter
>suddenly everyone resetting their VPNs to inflate the number
lel

>> No.68532341

>>68531616
These retards are high on their own farts, no point in trying to give a reality cheak to the dilusional.

>> No.68532359 [DELETED] 

>>68532319
Phasenigs are not that smart cut them some slack.

>> No.68532368

>>68532234
Invaders can't shut up about fishman because they try too hard to fit in. I don't blame them because Lumi has been in Phase for 2 years and she still feels like an outsider who doesn't belong tbf

>> No.68532436

>>68532319
Me when I'm a blind retard [2]

>> No.68532447

>>68532341
I think most of the phasefags from their general know that they are living and they are destined to live in Holo's shadow. But you gotta act cocky in the catalog, I understand.

>> No.68532607

>ctrl F "phasefag"
6 times
>ctrl F "phasenig"
2 times
>ctrl "catalog"
8 times

>> No.68532615

>>68532368
>Lumi has been in Phase for 2 years and she still feels like an outsider who doesn't belong tbf
Invaders is still such a weird concept to me because of this. It feels like they turned the concept from what they originally intended into a stopgap between gens so people would feel like they got new toys faster than they would've originally.

>> No.68532628

>>68532341
>cheak
>dilusional
Aren't phasefags ESL SEAniggers?

>> No.68532649

>>68532181
Sakana may be retarded at times but he’s grown on me over the years, and the way the talents super casual with talking to him(and insulting him) makes me think he’s overall a pretty chill boss to deal with.

>> No.68532701

>>68532341
Where is Pankoposter?

>> No.68532757

>>68524302
pic not related

>> No.68532761

>ctrl F 'holo'
17

>> No.68532782

>>68532649
>and the way the talents super casual with talking to him(and insulting him) makes me think he’s overall a pretty chill boss to deal with.
NijiKR used to do that with Riku Tazumi, and you know how that worked out for them in the end.

>> No.68532792

>>68532234
The foundation of their relationship is that of a fresh hire and their boss. So the foundation is one of authority and intimidation, no matter how not intimidating Sakana is. No matter how the relationship is built up after that, that's still the foundation. Pippa will bloviate about 'fuck Sakana', but then folds if she thinks he might actually get mad.

Senior hires, on the other hand, will come in swinging and fighting from day 1, demanding shit and calling shit out. They're already confident in themselves so the foundation is fundamentally different. Invaders see Gen 1 making fun of Sakana, and aren't intimidated by him, so they're willing to go ham.

>> No.68532812

>>68532615
The concept is simple. Invaders is a gen where they can cut costs from advertising/marketing since its talents already have an audience of their own.

>> No.68532838

>>68532782
History repeats itself.

>> No.68532893

>>68529829
>DYRBI?
yes, Phase's music stuff will always just be tertiary. I am glad it is there for those who want to sing, but it makes the company no money.
80% of the "singers" in Phase are all in the bottom in terms of making the company money.

Phase is an Origins company and most of their biggest talents are in Origins. Origins is the face of Phase and sets the culture. 3 of the 4 in EN Origins can't sing.

Being an Idol music company is just not gonna happen when most of your biggest girls can't sing.

>> No.68532959

>>68532782
The difference is Sakana actually reciprocates that, he isn’t just a meme used by the talents, the most Riku has ever done is be “Selen’s idol” and sell merch of himself.

>> No.68532960

>>68532893
>You can argue that it's going to be a failure of a venture but they are obviously headed in that direction.

>> No.68533042
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We need more Jelly porn
https://files.catbox.moe/2yr9ri.png
https://files.catbox.moe/o1mw49.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/p7e5pk.png
https://files.catbox.moe/ilipqq.png

>> No.68533181

>>68532960
Sakana has gone thru several periods of cope and denial that the foundation of his company are non traditional vtubers like Pippa, Tenma, Lia. He will always chase his dream of an idol company, but at the end of the day he knows Phase will never be a popular music company.

>> No.68533184

>>68528144
>spends so much money on a shitty otome "game" the bank freezes her account suspecting foul play
The fuck is wrong with this woman?

>> No.68533193

>>68533042
The only good phase talent and a honorary holo.

>> No.68533309

>>68533042
>dicks censored
gay

>> No.68533330

>>68533181
I watch Phase Connect for mental illness. If I wanted to watch for music, I would watch HoloLive or PRISM. They are much better singers than anybody in Phase Connect.

>> No.68533364

>>68532761
>>68533193
18 now

>> No.68533383

>>68533330
>If I wanted to watch for music
Then why even watch Vtubers, I'd just listen to real bands.

>> No.68533433

>>68533383
true

>> No.68533481

>>68532181
It's a great clip because of how Dizzy shits on the new girls for hanging on to the fish's approval while being unaware of how she too is dependant on it

>> No.68533516

>>68524302
i wish phaseflips would stop harassing my oshi

>> No.68533581

>>68533364
Holo rent free in phase sisters' brains. Love to see it.

>> No.68533645

>>68533581
19 now

>> No.68533648

>>68533516
>phaseflips
The new homoholo gen(yes, there are 3 now) is nothing but filipinos
One is even close friends with DN

>> No.68533660

>>68533330
new Phasefans dont even know mental illness kino. 2021-2022 Phase was a golden age.

>> No.68533695

>>68524302
>or hire sex pests.
yeah, the talents just invite them onto their steams themselves.

>> No.68533698

>>68526075
everyone in Phase is a retard and they call each other and themselves retards daily.

>> No.68533764

>>68528727
I've been watching her for a year and she's definitely grown on me. Genuinely believe she's talented despite the mental illness

>> No.68533783

>>68533481
Isn't Dizzy Sakana's friend from school or something

>> No.68533784

>>68533330
>I watch phase connect for 3DP shit
Phasefags are all assmon fans or what?

>> No.68533803

>>68528424
grifting slut, the usual

>> No.68533808
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>>68533698
This is true https://twitter.com/jellyhoshiumi/status/1755029818868129962

>> No.68533854

>>68533808
Jelly. The only good phase talent and a honorary holo.

>> No.68533898

>>68533783
Sakana basically asks for Dizzy's advice how to run a vtuber company when Dizzy was still in Tsunderia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4L4q_3eBN_0

>> No.68533950

>>68533898
reminder Dizzy hired males into Tsunderia

>> No.68533955

>>68533784
Yeah, like Nerissa and Shiori

>> No.68534002

>>68533950
Hey, Tomo was talented though.

>> No.68534049

>>68533950
>told fish to not hire pippa because she was a brand risk
>told fish to not hire shiina because she was a brand risk
>told fish to fire lia because she was a brand risk
>hired males while she was the head talent manager in tsunderia
nobody should ever take anything dizzy says seriously. actually they should do the exact opposite of what she says.

>> No.68534113

>>68526495
Pippa is 100% an actual autist. She just never got diagnosed because her hillbilly family is probably afraid of modern medicine or some shit.

>> No.68534162

>>68534049
>did not want a Phase Connect with Shiina or Lia in it
>now relies on them to raid her everyday
You love to see it

>> No.68534166

>>68534049
So she's PC's Mori?

>> No.68534175

>>68528172
I just noticed the similarity in the names Saya and Muyu to Sayu
And I cant help but think maybe Phase is the mental hospital for her
Fishman do your thing lol

>> No.68534251

>>68534175
Not even phase management is stupid enough to hire bottom feeder terminated nijis.

>> No.68534285

>>68534049
She was right on wonton.

>> No.68534314

>>68534175
fuck off we're full.
What does Sayu being to the table? her entire personality is bitter girl who was fired from nijisanji after 3 weeks.

>> No.68534374

>>68534113
>Needed to have her boyfriend as a chat moderator telling her that she's been streaming for two hours
>Has outbursts when taken to Arby's
>Fixated on furfaggotry

>>68531331
>Sakana is a faggot and will never be the western Yagoo. I can’t watch Phase without him being mentioned.
They have no creativity and keep trying to copy Cover's Yagoo by using a sleazy chinaman that plays LoL as "content".

>> No.68534521

>>68533898
And then he ignored it because Dizzy has provably terrible opinions.

>> No.68534630

>>68534285
Until proven otherwise, the only hiring mistake Phase Connect has made is Yuri.

>> No.68535031

>>68529029
>Kronii, Mori, Ame, and Mumei did it
>”Nyoo, MUH holo vs holo”

>> No.68535092

>holo again
Rent free phasekeks

>> No.68535222

>>68534374
>They have no creativity
problem is they repeat the same jokes over and over and over, I stopped watching one of their talents because every stream was like a deja vu

>> No.68535421

>68535092
>It’s okay for Holocucks to attack Phase randomly but it’s not okay when Phase do the same

>> No.68535466

>>68534049
>actually they should do the exact opposite of what she says.
I mean that's literally what fishman does

>> No.68535575

who Sakana listens to
>Pippa
>Tenma
>Lia
>Uruka

who Sakana ignores
>Dizzy
>Lumi

>> No.68535649

>>68534049
She was the one who encouraged Rosemi to join NijiEN aswell.

>> No.68535665

>>68535421
Holy seethe. Kek.

>> No.68535718

>>68535575
Lumi is actually one of the people he listens to the most.
She got them the Mahjong sponsorship, she's the reason Jelly and Clara (also Runie potentially) joined Phase, and she comes up with a lot of ideas/events that Phase ends up doing

>> No.68535751

>>68535718
>She got them the Mahjong sponsorship
lol
lmao
LMAO
AYYY LMAO

>> No.68535796

>>68528727
Runie is absolute fucking kino. The fact that no one else ever hired her is proof that vtuber agencies across the board are retarded.

>> No.68535828

>>68535718
Lumi is not even in the inner circle.

>> No.68535849

>>68535092
>Someone brings up Hololive
>Phasefag responds
>RENT FREE
What do you call this mental illness?

>> No.68535870

>>68535796
She was technically a member of a very small corpo for like a week.

>> No.68535892

>>68535796
>The fact that no one else ever hired her
Anon...

>> No.68535897

>>68535718
Lumi is the company's attack dog who doubles as their recruiter.

>> No.68535935

>>68535849
>Someone brings up a homo collab (phase)
>Phasefag responds with muh holo
What do you call this mental illness?

>> No.68535937

>>68535575
>>68535718
Lumi managed to sneak in that fucking turbofaggot doxxfag Xalamon as a head mod for the company though, which nearly made most of gen 1 quit.

>> No.68535997

>>68535870
Tsun doesn't even count. I'm talking about actual professional vtuber companies not some 2-bit hobby project that went under

>> No.68536055

>>68535937
>which nearly made most of gen 1 quit
Gen 1 nearly quit before Lumi was even a member of the company retard.
>>68535997
Runie was never in Tsunderia.

>> No.68536071

>>68535718
>She got them the Mahjong sponsorship
Is that a good thing? That game gives sponsors to 2view indies lol.

>> No.68536090

>>68535718
>She got them the Mahjong sponsorship
Not only did she not, she wasn't even asked to participate in the first sponsorship and THEN she had a mini tantrum on Twitter during the sponsorship stream because Sakana banned any Phase talents from streaming during it.

Lumi was supposed to do her own Genshin sponsor stream at the same time, but Sakana shut it down and forbid her from streaming it. Instead she was made to live tweet the jong sponsor stream

>> No.68536128

>>68535935
I'm sure it's all the vast amounts of Niji or Vshojo unicorns that make those posts.

>> No.68536167

>>68535466
We don’t know that, we may have missed so much kino just because fishman had a good idea and she shut it down behind the scenes because he decided to listen to her.

>> No.68536171

>>68534113
Pippa is autistic, but she's not hillbilly. she knows too much to be a hillbilly/trailerpark trash, and she has a dishwasher.

that alone proves she's larping as a redneck

>> No.68536180

>>68536128
That's the definition of rent free. Nice self own.

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>>68535937
>Xalamon as a head mod for the company though
anon Xalamon was in Phase long before Lumi. Note the date.
I swear you newfags are clueless.

>> No.68536287

>>68535849
Tribalism
Look up the images he's posted in the archive

I guarantee you he's posted each over a dozen times

>> No.68536290

>>68536167
>hey what if we sold onaholes of the talents?
>NO! BAD FISH!
>Oh ok, guess it's more standee merch then...

>> No.68536317

>>68536071
The Tournament Arc was fun.
>>68536090
She literally did. She introduced Sakana to the Mahjong rep. What is this retarded revisionist history?
>>68536181
Catalogfags are clueless anon, it's best to just let them seethe and screech like retards.

>> No.68536339

>>68536287
>he's posted

>> No.68536347

>>68536055
Yeah, then they had a mini civil war again due to the Xalabussy drama you fucking retard.

>> No.68536400

>>68533330
Pippa unironically sings great when she actually puts in some effort (this is almost always never, though)

>> No.68536440

>>68536171
there are degrees of that lifestyle. It's not like there's a power gap between literal holler hovels and middle class mcmansions. She probably grew up in a doublewide at the edge of a moderately sized town.

>> No.68536451

>>68536347
yeah, and Pippa, Tenma and Lia won. Xalamon is banned from their chats iirc. They hold more power than Xalamon and Lumi.

>> No.68536465

>>68536290
Fuck...

>> No.68536469

>>68536347
There was no "they", Pippa had a meltdown on stream because she was feeling isolated from the rest of the company due to Sakana trying to sanitize the company and ban her from saying certain things. Xalafaggot had nothing to do with it unless you think he has the power to make wide sweeping decisions that effect the whole company.

>> No.68536530

>>68536400
Great is probably overselling it but she has genuinely improved through practice.

>> No.68536531

>>68536290
I fucking hate standees. I'd rather pay 5x more for a proper figure amd I know I'm not alone.

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>>68525163
Hag supremacy

>> No.68536664

>>68536530
Her performance in the Christmas concert was hands down the best. Hell, I actually think she sang candy cane lane better than the original singer

>> No.68536808

>>68536469
>Xalafaggot had nothing to do with it unless you think he has the power to make wide sweeping decisions that effect the whole company.
he is the head moderator in Phase Connect and runs 80% of the chats. In a weird way, he is the law in most of the chats,
there were Discord leaks in September 2022. Pippa, Lia and Tenma won. he lost.

He was so bitter about it he later demanded a user in Lia's chat named "Xalamon's Big Black Boyfriend" be perma banned, and Lia refused and told him fuck off. Xalamon is banned from her chat he has no power there.

>> No.68536826

>>68536531
I'd pay 5x more for a Jelly onahole

>> No.68536834

>>68536469
That wasn't the issue. She was crying because she was getting special treatment from sakana and in her menhera brain, she convinced herself that all her co workers hated her for it. But that's all moot now since he's significantly allowed them more creative liberty than back then

>> No.68536906

>>68536317
>She literally did. She introduced Sakana to the Mahjong rep
I'm sure she did, anon. anything to satiate Lumi's false sense of importance in a company she doesn't even fit into.

>> No.68536939

>>68529260
Rie could be a really good talent I feel and she has the musical ability, but she's very similar to shiina before she blew up, she wants to make her mother proud, she's a rich chinese girl and the fact that most of her gen is growing faster than her is pissing her off and she wants her big break so she tries too hard and it puts a lot of people off
I feel like she'll do better once she finally stops trying that hard and has more fun with the content, Panko does that now and she's grown incredibly fast, I've seen her end up right under tenma in numbers these past few months

>> No.68536940

>>68536055
>>68536469
Why are you spouting a bunch of pure misinformation?
Xalamon was a huge problem for all members of gen 1 and is blocked by them and much of gen 2, i see no reason why anyone would try to dispute this unless they’re literally part of his groomcord.

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>>68536808
>he later demanded a user in Lia's chat named "Xalamon's Big Black Boyfriend" be perma banned, and Lia refused and told him fuck off.
Holy shit

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Tenma is live

https://www.youtube.com/live/uV_R6c-Vd20?si=H20tUZV15F5hWmiu

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>>68536952
It gets better. a few months ago, Lia & Lumi did a Brokeback Mountain watchalong on her channel, and she knew Xalamon would be lurking because he is Lumi's headmod. However, it is long rumored that Xalamon is not even allowed to post in Lia's chat -or- issue bans because he doesn't have privileges in her chat
Knowing this, Lia pinned picrel at the top of the chat

>> No.68537360

>>68525163
I'd argue that if someone is a hag and they've still decided that VTubing is what they're doing with their life, that's indicative of them being dysfunctional in some way--more so than their younger counterparts.
It's like if you work at McDonald's. Who is more likely to have serious issues: The teenager who is working his first job there? Or the 40 year old chainsmoker that's still working at McDonald's?

>> No.68537412

>>68536940
>Xalamon was a huge problem for all members of gen 1 and is blocked by them and much of gen 2
He is still a mod in all of Gen 2's chat's except Shiina's.
>i see no reason why anyone would try to dispute this unless they’re literally part of his groomcord
I just think you guys are retards for thinking he's some sort of evil mastermind responsible for nearly killing the company. It's hilarious seeing people act like some faggot mod who doesn't even get paid has any sort of actual power
>>68537205
Xalabussy and his boyfriend actually had a date and interacted a few months ago. He's not even banned in Lumi's chat

>> No.68537419

>>68536957
>Streaming over Saya
>Completely mogging her
The young should fear the ragehag.

>> No.68537525

>>68536906
id say Lumi is probably the 5th or 6th most influential in Phase. She has power. Pippa, Tenma, Lia, Uruka are probably the only 4 that have more power than her. Some of those names don't flex their political power that often, but they have it in spades.
Maybe Dizzy also.

>>68536181
this needs to be shared to every dumb motherfucker who thinks Lumi brought Xalamon into Phase Connect.

>> No.68537605

>>68537525
>Lumi brought Xalamon into Phase Connect
The whore!

>> No.68537609

So why is Xalamon kept around if everyone hates him so much?

>> No.68537656

>>68537360
Well just look up that tripfaggot breakroom on 4plebs lmao. But to be fair, older women who get into vtubing are usually just doing it for kicks rather than trying to make it a serious career

>> No.68537665

>>68537609
Sakana's fuckbuddy

>> No.68537691

>>68537609
Blackmail. He's got enough dirt on everybody that he can basically call the shots.

>> No.68537769

>>68537609
the only one who probably hates him is Lia. I don't think Pippa or Tenma hate him, just that he tried to overreach and that shit didn't work for them.

>> No.68537810

>>68526272
Even if that's the case for Lumi, she's probably the only one. Invaders 2 all basically got new identities. They aren't really invaders in the same way Lumi and Yuri were. The only difference between them and Gens 1-3 is that they're allowed to talk about their PLs. I'm betting that if any of them were to leave, they would lose the rights to Dizzy/Ember/Jelly and have to revert to their prior models/names.

>> No.68537840

>>68537609
“Everyone” are jealous ass hats that don’t matter.

>> No.68537866

>>68537609
I don't think anyone likes vtuber mods unless they're completely invisible

>> No.68537898

>>68537525
Pippa is the most influential in phase hamds down. I think she could literally attempt a hostile takeover if she was actually cunning enough. Luckily for sakana, she's content to be left alone to do her own thing.

>> No.68537913

>>68537769
and that's why he is persona non grata in Gen1 chats. Gen1 rules the roost.

>>68537810
Jelly literally is still active on her PL twitter every day and doing music commissions. I don't believe for a second that Lumi owns her IP. Sakana got it from her he is a cut throat Chinaman. The only way will will find out for sure is when she graduates.

>> No.68538022

>>68537609
I dunno, most of the worst drama associated with him is old so I find him fairly easy to ignore

>> No.68538086

>>68537898
>I think she could literally attempt a hostile takeover if she was actually cunning enough
Nah not anymore.
There was a time when Lia, Tenma and Uruka would quit if Pippa quit.
Not any more. They would let her go. Pippa doesn't have as many allies in Phase as you imagine.

>> No.68538273

>>68538086
This guy is writing both sides of the fanfiction.

>> No.68538282

>>68538086
Pippa leaves. Phase is no more. Is not that hard.

>> No.68538319

>>68537866
people like archivebro

>> No.68538377

>>68538282
Yes anon if Pippa leaves, Tenma is going to lose all 1500 of her viewers. Lia and Airi are going to lose their donors.
Shiina loses her support. Same for Muyu.
Phase shuts its doors.

>> No.68538432

>>68538282
most deluded harine

>> No.68538451

>>68538282
Your information is over a year old.

>> No.68538580

>>68538282
nah. pippa leaves phase connect tomorrow, phase connect becomes idol corp in size, which means they are still the #1 small corpo.
that is a pretty damn great spot to be in. check your calendar it's not 2022 anymore. don't get me wrong: if she leaves, it means the company incline is over, but the company goes on. at this stage phase connect lives with or without pippa.

>> No.68538599

>>68538086
I agree that they wouldn't quit anymore for Pippa, but remember that sakana's biggest call to fame is Pippa and she is also his biggest revenue source. If she played her cards right, she could easily weasle her way into owning equity in the company, and carry on from there. The power balance is honestly relatively even. Sakana actually needs Pippa.
Although I will say that Origins has been an incredibly kino generation. Without a doubt they will become big revenue and exposure sources for phase connect. So in the future, the scale will tip away from pippa. Currently though, she's absolutely capable of strong arming sakana.

>> No.68538637

>>68537525
Nah Lumi is definitely 2nd or 3rd. Maybe tied for 2nd with Tenma. I love Uruka, but you're tripping if you think she has more influence than Lumi.
Idk where Lumi currently stacks up in terms of numbers, but I think her influence is wildly disproportionate to her numbers regardless because she's one of the oldest members and is very close with and well-respected by Fishman and staff.

>> No.68538844

>>68538319
Because he's /here/. Speaking of which, his real name is archivefag, just can't use it anywhere but /here/.
And even still, people have called him out for sperging a few times.

>> No.68538919

>>68538282
Pippa was the foundation for everyone else to build upon or distinguish themselves against, but nowadays her clout has disseminated enough that the rest of the corpo can stand on its own.

>> No.68538956

>>68538637
it's not about numbers. it's about relationships and tenure.
Lumi has far less power than Pippa , Tenma, Lia and Uruka. ffs Lia along with Pippa helped get Lumi her job. So they are the kingmaker's to the kingmaker.
You forget some of them know Sakana on another level. He takes them on trips and rents AirBNB's with them. Goes to Disney. Hotels. None of those are Lumi.
Be lucky Lia and Uruka don't play politics and realize the hammer power they have. Sakana will always take care of them before he will ever take care of Lumi.

>> No.68539190

>>68537691
Basically. Look at what the fuck happened at nijiEN when the former hesd mod of one of the talents had a woman moment over being unmodded.

Phase is stuck with the fucker.

>> No.68539208

>>68538086
>There was a time when Lia, Tenma and Uruka would quit if Pippa quit.
>Not any more. They would let her go. Pippa doesn't have as many allies in Phase as you imagine.
I agree that Phase could survive without Pippa now, and the others wouldn't quit, unless maybe if she was fired for totally bullshit reasons and Fishman was very clearly in the wrong.
However, it would be a MASSIVE hit, both to the company's success, and all of the talent's morale. I don't think anyone would be happy to see her go.

>> No.68539296

>phase hires people with mental problems
>gives them an outlet and support
>they do better
what if fishman is just trying to help people and all he wants is someone to play videogames with him.

>> No.68539449

>>68538956
I disagree. That was the case before, but I think Lia and Uruka are coasting now and have kinda faded to the BG. Lumi has surpassed them in influence by rapidly building relationships and connections in the time she's been there.

>> No.68539504

>>68539208
Well besides that, sakana would lose a huge amount of money. A lot of his revenue comes from people who literally just watch pippa and only buy pippa merch.

>> No.68539511

Can someone spoonfeed me on gen 2 and invaders? Whats their content like, do they do membership streams?

>> No.68539584

>>68524302
im gonna sexually abuse the pippers

>> No.68539618

>>68539208
What would an indie notPippa do? Would anything even change?

>> No.68539621

>>68539504
Exactly. And that revenue gets reinvested into the other talents. Even if there are any talents that don't get along with her, they still wouldn't want to lose that.

>> No.68539629

>>68524387
Cute japanese women harassing muscular men with beards.

>> No.68539696

>>68539449
I would suggest that the fact that Sakana sent Lia to accept the vtuber award and represent the company in front of 35,000 people tells you where Lia is in the food chain

also, if you look at all the major first time event collabs Phase has done, Lumi isn't in any of them
>niji collab? no lumi
>holo collab? no lumi
>vshojo? no lumi

>> No.68539697

Phase's downfall will come eventually, they have too many problems that will be revealed to the public in due time like NijiEN does.

>> No.68539883

>>68538319
He’s based

>> No.68539898

>>68539618
I don't think there'd be any major changes. If anything, she might go back to her slightly edgier 2021-22 style of content, because the only reason she dialed it back was because she didn't want to impact the other Phase talents, which wouldn't be an issue anymore if she went indie.

>> No.68539953

>>68526075
its a back and forth of each other and everyone calling the others retards

they all are.

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>>68539696
why didn't Lumi come out?

>> No.68540148

>>68539697
Lol. Lmao even

>> No.68540171

>>68539696
>Sakana sent Lia to accept the vtuber award
I don't think that's indicative of higher trust/influence. Rather, I think that was Fishman trying to uplift Lia.
>also, if you look at all the major first time event collabs Phase has done, Lumi isn't in any of them
I think that's mostly because she primarily streams on Twitch. Which is why she got the Filian collab, but not the ones you listed. Lumi definitely could pull more high-profile collabs if she invested more into her name recognition on YouTube, and Fishman knows that. She just doesn't want to. But Fishman could make her if it came down to it.

>> No.68540225

>>68539296
Don't be an idiot. Sakana is a businessman through and through. He does what's good for business. The only deviation is when he's stroking his ego like selling coffee of all things. Whatever "good" results from his actions is incidental.

>> No.68540265

>>68526075
>t. thinskinned dramafagging catalognigger who doesn’t watch streams

>> No.68540344

>>68540171
I remember Lumi being in a big contest with Filian and Neuro(?) as hosts but she got eliminated early

>> No.68540444

>>68539696
Sakana knows that Lumi is a coniving snake and doesn’t want to give her too much power.

>> No.68540474

>>68540171
>got the first Fillian collab
anon do you even know who first opened the communication door between Phase and Fillian? It's was Lia.

They were supposed to do Family Feud in December 2022 with Lia, Pippa and Tenma. Pippa got nervous and pulled out.
Then it was supposed to be Lia, Lumi and Yuri
Then it got shelved indefinitely.

https://streamable.com/7f9w31

>> No.68540556

SHONDO COLLAB FUCKING WHEN?

>> No.68540587

>>68540474
>it was supposed to be 6 person Phase vs Phase Family Fued
this would have been better than the shitshow we ended up getting a year later :/

>> No.68540633

>>68540344
Lumi was on Fillian feud and her dating show at least. Arguably bigger than NijiEN shit even before the current financially negligible event.

>> No.68540751

>>68540171
>which is why she got the Filian collab,
nigga she was a seat filler one of 13 people
Who is the biggest person Lumi has collabed 1on1 with?
Pippa has bagged Henya and Fillian.
Lia and bagged Pomu and Neuro.
Lumi's biggest 1on1 collab is probably Pippa.

>> No.68540843

>>68539697
The biggest unironic problem they have is screeching tanky trannies on twitter hating them for being the ”LitErAL NaZi COmPanY from EVIL alt-right 4channel!!!”, i wouldn’t worry too much about it.

>> No.68540872

>>68540094
I want to rip Lia's head off so bad

>> No.68540965

>>68540872
Don’t we all psychopath-kun, don’t we all

>> No.68541056

>>68540872
I want to drink Lia's pee

>> No.68541142

>>68540751
probably Pippa or max0r
max0r is equivalent to Lia's interview with manlybadasshero, which is probably Lia's 3rd or 4th biggest collab. Lumi is great, I just don't get anon coping acting like she is some master networker.

The top 3 networkers in Phase are Tenma, Lia and Hime. Lia and Hime punch way above their weight, too. Lumi is not even in the top 3 imo.

>> No.68541293

>>68531086
>>68531273
can you niggers read?

>> No.68541437
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>>68540171
>Rather, I think that was Fishman trying to uplift Lia.
sounds like giga cope to me, bro. the fact of the matter remains: if you look at every major moment or major first in company history, one of pippa, tenma or lia is involved. lumi is involved in almost none of them

they could all drop down to 100ccv, and the company would still be theirs. they get the sweetest deals. they will always be the pioneers, sakana will always do what he can to make them happy. it is tenma, pippa, lia, uruka's world, lumi is just living in it.

>> No.68541447

Imagine creating a company to find people to play games with. Couldn't be me. Fishman is like a disfunctional Yagoo.

>> No.68541465

>>68524302
fuck of shill

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>>68541465
>of

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>>68541465
>of
nigger

>> No.68542050

>>68539618
>>68539898
newfags. Her indie PL is super tame. She even pretends not to know spicy memes that Pippa addressed literally earlier that same day, back when she was doing both.

>> No.68542947

>>68539511
I think only Remi does membership streams in gen 2
https://www.youtube.com/live/jWnI96EID0g

>> No.68543027

>>68542050
I'm not a newfag and I know her PL. I don't get how you think it was "tame" though. For one, she did more Alex Jones references and related stuff than she ever did as Pippa.

>> No.68543236

>>68528032
No, there was a rrat that Phase was hiring a former Niji manager somewhere after Gen 2, but nothing ever came of that and then retards started mixing things up.

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