/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Dead cat bounce

>>68468951
>look, their share price is up by 45 yen after losing hundreds! see? everything's fine!
lol

TITANIUM SUPPORT at 3400 don't worry bro

>>68468951
>retard only knows how to read a graph and not the numbers on it

diamond hand! WE LIKE THE STOCK!

HOLOBROS, NOT LIKE THIS

Dead cat bounce, you retard. It's peanuts in the first place.
The big guys want to exit their positions, so expect a bunch of candlesticks for the next couple of days.

>>68468951
Why didn't you buy the dip?

>>68468951
Stocks move independent of the actual company performance they are perceived value based on the forward looking future of the company. Niji stock could KY rocket 100% tomorrow on no news it doesn't mean the company changed in anyway.

I don't even like Nijisanji but my stock autism won't let this go.

>>68469956
...
Well nijisanji is a buy I guess...

>>68470207
>Stocks move independent of the actual company performance they are perceived value based on the forward looking future of the company
But the nijisanji is losing on partners and deals
https://twitter.com/hytebrand/status/1755306063115788503

>>68468951
People are buying the dip

>>68468951
4chan anons aren’t Goldman traders and OP is surprised

>>68468951
EN is a tiny fraction of their business. Anyone who thought this was going to leave more than a dent in their stocks are retarded

>>68470482
>EN is a tiny fraction of their business.
Isn't it 25% of their total revenue or something? Hell honestly, even if I'm dead wrong and it's only less than ~10% that's still not a tiny fraction.

>>68470319
Yeah, and yet people still think they'll recover from this, thus they keep buying

>>68470599
Most of that is from the fags who have been unaffected by this yab for the most part

>>68470791
>people still think they'll recover
They call it a "sucker rally" for a reason

Retards buying the dip in hope that Niji will recover and continue to expand or just to make a quick buck.

>>68468951
They lost 15 yen

>All those retards and dramatubers who said Niji was downplaying Selen’s termination
LMAO

>>68471575
It's so over...

>>68471575
it bounce back a little

Nothing happened, stop noticing gaijin.

It pisses me off that I can't profit from this.

>>68469378
champ if you don't wanna embarrass yourself don't do the fucking /v/ console war stock shit.

>>68468951
>Stock tanking
>Inevitable it will have a recovery
>Hit the price point so bots buy the dip
>Brooo there's a recovery!
No shit retard they're hopping on the free money train

>>68468951
One of the most famous stock traders in the US made his money by doing things he knew was retarded.

So, yeah, stock go up, stock go down, you can't explain it~

>>68471575
Uh...

>>68484174
They're in the red again.

>>68468951
Holobros... our narrative...

>guys the stock price is going up, quickly let's buy it!

>>68484777
>GOD TRIPS

I work for a hedge fund and tomorrow i'm pitching the idea of shorting anycolor. Wish me luck

>>68484174
>>68484533
SELL SELL SELL

>>68484695
Nijinigs...your stock reps...
>>68484174
>>68484533

>>68484777
>He bought?

But what will the investors start posting about a brand pulling the plug on a deal with them. Imagine if gameperms started getting retracted

Japanese can't handle that people loved Selen and their stocks are plummeting.

>>68484533
Negligible they say
It won't affect them financially they say

>>68484777
>>68485180
>he bau'ed?

>>68481822
>Anycolor's share price has lost 50 yen just since this thread started
You're the one getting embarrassed, you gay retarded fag lmao

>he sold?
>pump eet

If you wanna hurt stock price, start spamming game companies to retract their permission for niji. Sprinkle the fact selen almost an heroed and they shat on her all the same

How do we save Nijisanji fans, they're unable to cope that their EN counterparts like and support Selen.

now it dipped below 3400

>>68479851
Short sell?

fuck you guys, the stock didn't even dip as lowas may 2023, call me when that happen so i can laugh for real.

>>68486287
You're aiming at a short term return trying to get in a low spot between recently and kyo's graduation before the stock goes back up later with later stuff niji is doing. It's easy money

>intentionally release disaster-level PR statements
>stir up the sexpest scandal
>drop the market
>some time later magically release proper PR statements, sack all evildoers, public apology, fix things properly, etc etc
>the price soars
They're doing it right now, I'm telling you.

>>68468951
>/vt/ baby's first dead cat bounce

>>68487423
bugs are not capable of doing that

>>68468951
>/vt/ still hasn't zoomed out
LOL imagine thinking selen actually mattered

>>68488033
You mean this one?

>>68468951
>49% 売りたい (want to sell)
>almost all of it strongly want to sell

>>68488033
>>68488140
Meanwhile cover.

>>68484777
>IMAGINE THOUGH MEME MAGIC THAT THIS MAN REVERSES THE DROP OF THE STOCK PRICE

NO! Niji must burn. you must perish.

>>68488033
>>68488140
Huh. Looks like a normal sine graph. guess it is a nothingburger

>>68487423
wtf Riku is flipping his own stock to to get money to debut a new gen?

you can thank the jp cunts that are buying stocks "to save the company"

Proof: https://twitter.com/Trainer_ex/status/1755093138061074508

>>68488376
3.4% in 1.5 years is really a nothingburger i agree. Enormous vol to a return below a 2y treasuries

>>68489011
>the one with the bigger penis is always considered correct
So every japanese loses by default? KEK

>>68489011
>no picture
No proof means he is lying

>>68489011
Kind of weird, considering that people who have actual stocks in the company are shitting on the management for losing a cash cow.

>>68485399
HOLY FUCKING SCIENCE 50 YEN WOW ITS OVER NIJISANJI IS FUCKING DO- oh no it's just faggots selling and buying stocks every fucking day as always you retarded faggot.

>>68468951
price trends occur over months not hours anon, the real world isn't bitcoin

>>68488287
cover ain't gonna last much longer either don't worry

when your growth depends on contractors your growth is about as much as someone with a 2cm penis that claims they're a grower not a shower.

>>68490178
>deflecting to Cover
And that's how you know nijisisters have truly lost

>>68470319
>some PC brand that may or may not sell 50 cases
Oh no, what would Nijisanji do without that.

>>68485318
I just searched the Yahoo stock market for that, this is outdated, it did increase

>>68491832
considering 99% of their "talent" can't even hit 1 mil subs, losing anything is a big deal

So how are the investors actually taking the news of a sponsor pulling out?

>No further fluctuation
>negligible loss of mentally unstable business partners
It turns out the financial impact is indeed negligible.

>>68492773
They're coping and blaming selen and america, or they're mad that managment is full of retards.

>>68494042
Nobody in the comments is mentioning America though. It's all about how retarded is to "donate" to your oshis per se

>>68468951
The japanese see it as Nijisanji doing the right thing, that's why.

one thing I would like to point out is, the JP stock market closes for an hour for lunch every day. So 1.5 hours ago to around half an hour ago, trading was halted temporarily. If Anycolor can get through this weekend with only the ~9% drop from the day of the initial announcement (Feb 5th), they will probably recover within 3 months

>>68469334
fpbp

>>68494283
They're blaming selen for not taking being terminated nicely.

I don't think we should expect much more unless this starts directly affecting the JP branch of their vtubers.

They might end on red today.

>>68468951
Nijisanji stock is about the same as it was when they went public. The stock is fucking dead and they have no growth. anyone who buys this shit may actually be braindead

>stream # discussion bad
>stock # discussion good
you're all a bunch of retards

>>68498612
Classic jap mentality, to be expected of a defeated nation

>>68470791
most investors dont watch vtubers, have never watched vtubers. They don't give a shit about Selen, or yabs, or even know she exists. They just look at numbers, and niji is still a solid investment. The absolute worst thats going to happen from all this is EN gets axed and a few of them get rolled into the main branch, probably cutting out dead weight and becoming more profitable overall.

>>68499322
They're in the red.

>>68468951
this isn't niji's first termination drama. In fact, in several previous cases in japan, niji management turned out to be in the right and the talents were found lying, which is why jp is waking up

JP comments in Yahoo Finance post 4chan meme with japanese translation

>>68468951
Do you think he is right?

>>68501739
These people have actual fucking money on the line, not (You)s. Do they understand that?

>>68501739
They are trying desperately to blame enna for something she didn't do, so it's possible

I believe in Riku. He is a VISIONRY

>>68501832
In all fairness, Enna is desperately trying to convince people she did it too.

>>68468951
Didn't age well.

>>68501739

>>68501828
Some of them are buying just to stop the decline.

>>68502849
There not "buying just to stop the decline" they are buying because they believe that this is the end of the dip, at least for now. And they are probably right. Unless more big news comes out it probably won't go much lower, not until the quarterly report comes in. Even then it might be saved be NijiFes and we might not see the repercussions for a couple of quarters. These are fucking investors we are talking about not superfans who will throw their life savings to save a companys stock price.

>>68503933
But anycolor is losing more stocks.

It was funny seeing people ask how to short when it was already down 10%. Nigga if you aren't shorting the news you are NOT going to make it

>Cover -0.53%
>AC +0.15%
Holobronies in shambles

>>68503933
>Unless more big news comes out it
Knowing Niji, there will be.

>>68468951
how much can you buyback before it starts becoming a serious problem

>>68504234
Yeah, I'm sure the hololive investors are seething with their stock price doubling, lol.

>>68504362
Depends how much liquid capital you have. Also investors will get spooked if they see the only thing holding the stock up is buybacks.

>>68504081
Hardly any at all. The dip has stalled out. It probably has a couple days meandering around the same price before starting to climb again.

>>68468951
dookiturds it's over...

>>68505918
It really is.

>>68468951
>Actually negligible

>>68505918
After covers report showed huge growth in the international sector while niji is currently fighting for it's life overseas?
yeah that wont install much confidence in investors

>>68507796
But they're in the red

Some people are worried that the stocks will go below 3,000 yen. What happens if they do?

>>68511106
Someone needs to explain to these fuckers that a person almost died because of the situation in EN and everyone even tangentially related to the vtuber industry is pissed. I don't think the JP side realizes that 127k people just tuned in to watch doki's return and that no one with a head on their shoulders will be doing business with NijiEN for a long time without getting insane amounts of negative press. Even if it doesn't implode the stock price immediately because most of the stockholders are Japs who are unaware of the full context, this has horrible implications for Niji's future growth prospects.

>>68511334
Anon suicided is just part of the business to these people
Their attitude is oh well if she couldn't handle it she shouldn't have joined

>>68511334
>I don't think the JP side realizes that
Oh they do, they just don't get how an employee killing themselves over work is a bad thing.

>>68511334
>I don't think the JP side realizes that 127k people just tuned in to watch doki's return
Some do though. They just think Americans will kneel like the Chinese.

Nips don't give a flying shit about uppity baka gaijins.

>>68511334
>Japan giving the slightest sliver of a fuck about suicide
That would be moral and humane, but that's not the reality we live in.

>>68511581
They should start caring when cover just posted 106% revenue increase largely by expanding into overseas markets. Anyone with half a brain would sell Anycolor and buy Cover right now if they want to be in the vtuber market still, it's clear they have saturated the JP market and now they've burned any possibility of overseas expansion, there's nowhere to go but stagnation or decline.

>>68511502
They caught between just not taking foreign fans seriously, but knowing they need over seas expansion. If things don't improve fast or worse we get another graduation/termination a lot will be caught out.

>>68511472
>>68511735
>>68511454
even if they don't give a fuck, they know we care and that will affect the business? If a company I was in did something to piss off the zhangs this much I'd sell even if I don't see what the problem is myself

>>68511912
They think fans (especially no glorious nippon ones) are idiots. And to be fair they aren't wrong, it isn't hard to find ones bending over backwards to defend the company/livers or just being vindictive towards Selen. There is still a fair chance this will eventually blow over leaving NijiEN much weaker but not dead.

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>>68512159
>NEGLIGIBLE
They've been losing stocks for the last two days.

>>68512493
>-0.44%
Negligible

>>68512514
That's just in the last hour. They lost 10% since the graduation announcement.

>>68512619
10%?
Negligible

>>68512640
>just wipe $200+ millions from your market cap bro!

>>68512640
Go back to buying your shitcoin nijicuck

get the hint you dumb fuckers

It's all negligible.
The quarterly projections reports.. uh oh

>>68512710
>$200+ millions
That's how much Riku spends on fuel for his yacht fleet
Negligible
>>68512726
>your opinion
Negligible

>>68512758
this tbdesu. the stocks will actually be negligible for now, it's obviously not going to sink them. But their long term overseas growth will be completely crippled. the full effects of this will take a while to be felt, but next to comparable companies their outlook is much poorer today than it was a month ago.

Imagine defending this stock

So, is this why we're being raided by the NDF? There were a few of them last night but today they're in overdrive.

>>68468951
>why did you lie to me
No sympathy, you chose to take financial advice from the dumbest SEAs arguing about tangentially related stuff after people continued to point out the overall trend had regular and ever larger fluctuations.

Or in other words. Dokibird's stream must have been so bad and in shambles that it is restoring faith in Nijisanji. Right, guys? Some of you are actual morons and would have better luck reading tea leaves.

>>68512619

>>68484777
>>68485180
>>68485406
Dump it!

>>68491832
material value and brand value difference

>news of the HYTE collab cancellation reaches Yahoo News (Japan)
https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/3e3497ed54b889e60c479124415031a3231f5d37
Isn't Yahoo News very popular over there?

>>68468951
>The fate of a company is decided on 2 hours of trading.

>>68515072
It aggregates news from everywhere like the international version of Yahoo which is a separate entity but with different sources. Here's it's a Japanese gaming site that wrote the original article, Inside.

>>68515072
It's weird to know that they did this after the stock market closed. I wonder how it would have impacted the stocks a few hours ago.

always funny seeing retards talk about stock prices like 5% drops lol
SNAP which is a much more stable brand than niji just dropped over 30% after earnings, a 5% drop is pretty tame

>>68491685
pipe down ligger

>>68516565
SNAP(chat) more stable? Tik tok due to its controversies overtook snapchat. Honest I'm surprised it's as popular as it is at the moment.

>>68468951
The actual fallout hasn't occured. Also, there's a good chance EN will fold as a result of all this when Tazumi, who is way out of his depth, decides it's no longer worth it like every other branch he's canned.

>>68516565
Thing is Niji tanked on earnings in December, spent 2 billion yen to prop the stock up buying their own shares, and the latest events wiped out most of the gains from the buybacks.
I do think a lot of this is going to be forgotten when their Q3 results come out with nijifes revenue included, but by Q4 the impact on EN branch revenue will be significant

>ITT retards that don't understand basic support and resistance levels are telling on themselves

>>68517928
Explain.

>>68515072
In Japen yahoo used to be bigger tan jewgle until no that long ago.

>>68515072
Will this further plummet their stocks?

>>68511454
Then let it be known that they can either leave EN markets, or be forcibly removed from them. They aren't welcome around these parts anymore. Not until they shape up.

>>68511581
Then they can all either shut the fuck up and close NijiEN, or hang themselves. I don't give a damn which. You Nijiniggers are worse than cattle - at least cattle are useful. You are vermin. Vermin should be gassed.

>>68519371
Support level is like a ground level which a stock usually stays above. Resistance level is the opposite a value which the stock has a hard time going over. Of course these aren't laws or rules but just known values dictated by a stocks history. Does Anycolor even have either of those two since it's IPO was a bit over a year ago?

>>68468951
Retard that don't understand how stocks work

>>68511581
They do since overseas expansion is one of the 3 pillars of Nijisanji (said so by themselves)
Without the overseas expansion, their potential value plummets since they can only grow so much in Japan

>>68519371
Meme terms related to Technical Analysis (think zodiac signs, but for stock charts) that nobody knowledgeable about stocks actually uses
>t. MSc in Mathematical Finance with actual work experience in Banking

>>68486287
niji stock dipped lower than Boeing's when their plane lost a door
a bad dip's still a bad dip

>>68522372
A large portion of the stock market's value is based on perception rather than reality it's how bubbles are created.

>>68511472
No, discussions have been surrounding ethics around the JP circles and assuming Niji may have been in the wrong given the reaction recently but nobody ever brings up suicide, I've not even seem a single person pointing towards even being aware of who Selen may have reincarnated as, they know she did but the vast majority are clueless on who she may be now, much less do they know her statements, they're still very behind on info since most of it isn't getting translated for them and they need to pick out the truth from the misinformation NDF and Nijisanji is selling them as they're the main source they have

>>68522597
Yeah, and people have been aware of this for a long time (see the Keynesian Beauty Contest, formulated over 80 years ago). That doesn't make technical analysis any less laughable.

>>68516565
They lost like 10 percent

NOWS THE TIME. SHORT SHORT SHORT!

>>68523014
I just think the whole thing is retarded and to relate to your post it's not only safer but also less time consuming to just not over think.

>>68514953
But thats just to the west and EN. I dont think anyone was arguing that, but to say this impacts JP in any significant way is a stretch.

>he sold?

>>68512514
>>68524063
>>68525591
yeah, i sold cover's stock