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>6 months after debut
>slowest growing channel in HoloAdvent
>disproportionately hated by vtuber fans
>fanbase that somehow ended up more cancerous than Fauna's fanbase
>boring, sterile, and overly corporatized persona
>inconsistent streaming schedule
>only member of HoloAdvent to not cross 500k subs so far

What went wrong here? FuwaMoco had an already established identity to build a fanbase around, but Nerissa and Biboo don't (as far as I know) and have out performed her in EVERY metric. Is she just Sana 2.0?

>> No.68339250 [DELETED] 

Neck yourself numberfagging shitskin.

>> No.68339267

>>68339130
Only one to follow the stars before debut, the collabs statement also hurt her growth, you have to understand that people don't know the new girls on debut, they have the default Holo trust can be shaken if you fuck up early, the same thing happened to Regloss, they also followed and interacted with stars before debut and got royaly fucked up in subs.

>> No.68339312

I wonder who could be behind this post

>> No.68339330

Why is NDF like this?

>> No.68339369

>>68339130
>>boring, sterile, and overly corporatized persona
anon you can say "I don't watch streams" without so many words, you know.

>> No.68339509

>>68339130
I was against her for like the first 4 months cause of the collab rant + Stars twitter activity. But I’ve since given her a chance and she’s cute. Nerissa is the one I ended up unsubbing from. Too much Niji/VShoujo collabs + Fan favoritism

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>>68339130
Selen deflection thread

>> No.68339651 [DELETED] 

>>68339130

>> No.68339665

>>68339130
Only one I didn’t sub to because of her “respect my collabs” blunder 8^) sometimes it really is that simple.

>> No.68339674

Niji deflection thread

>> No.68339706

I want to like her because her model is pure sex but her voice filters me

>> No.68339727

>>68339130
>can create and release music videos without getting fired

>> No.68339739

>>68339706
I actually like her voice. It's dorky as hell.

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>> No.68339792

>>68339509
And thanks to said collabs, Nerissa has grown almost faster than the demon guard dogs in recent months. Collabing is an important tenant of vtubing. And clearly one approach hasn't worked and the other on has.

>> No.68339835

>>68339130
>fanbase that somehow ended up more cancerous than Fauna's
and yet still not as bad as Ruffians.

>> No.68339837

>boring
>sterile

???
Out of all the things to say about her, these?

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>>68339130
I still think the Hololive quiz fucked her over and she's trying to recover from it and not come off as a grifter.

>> No.68339927

>>68339706
yeah her voice reminds me of Kiara a bit, it's very grating..

>> No.68339965

>>68339888
was this the quiz early on where she didn’t know jack shit about anyone in hololive?

>> No.68339970

I was willing to give her a chance up until
>Once you go black, you never go back
and then I nope'd the hell outta there

>> No.68339984

She pulled a Kronii on debut. Also her genmates being good makes her feel worse by comparison

>> No.68340028

【N D F】

>> No.68340055

>>68339984
>implying Kronii isn't the best talent in HoloPromise or whatever they're calling it now.

Goddamnit I was hoping the retards were asleep....

>> No.68340072

>>68339965
The Kiara talk show quiz, yeah

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>>68339665
Good. Holo girls don't need phasekek / brownvtm followers like you who unironically thought she said "respect my collabs".

>> No.68340110

>>68339130
Kek, this is the worst deflection thread I've seen my entire life.

>> No.68340166

>>68339130
Her entire personality is just "tangents" that you'd expect from a chatbot

>> No.68340203

>>68339888
Yeah, she probably thought she didn't need to know about holos till the quiz happened and saw the aftermath.

>> No.68340217

>>68339130
>What went wrong here?
She made a weird, vague statement that implied she might do male collabs and then fucked off for two weeks. Also the constant Shiori astroturf threads that were being spammed here early on did not endear her to /vt/.

>>68339888
>the Hololive quiz fucked her over
That too. Her total ignorance about Hololive was a turn-off.

>> No.68340255

>>68339130
now she's trying to larp as a newly reformed idolfag by buying a bunch of Hololive merch from ebay right after her check came in

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>>68340055
Ha, that's a good one. Mumei and Fauna are light-years ahead of the clockbitch in terms of entertainment value. In fact, all she's got going for her is the wada design. What a waste. Anyway, >Holo vs Holo

>> No.68340323

>>68340217
So...

Misandry is what stunted her channel's growth? God I fucking hate Hololive fans.

>> No.68340392

>>68340323
Not misandry. Just entirely healthy Homo hate. Seethe forever btw.

>> No.68340439

>>68339130
Fuwamoco were complete nobodies, far less popular than Natsume Moe. Don't try to gloss over their success like they rode in with 500k subs in their pocket. Shiori did this to herself, she started off with vague dog whistle statements that turned people away, took long breaks right after debuting, was a frigid bitch to the dogs in the early collabs, and has some of the fakest, cringiest faux-gfe I've ever seen. it's obvious she hates doing it but is pandering her little ass off. She's just a shitter, she was never hololive material, and if she didn't have that giga buff model she'd probably be down at Sana level forever, she's lucky she's so ridiculously hot.

>> No.68340472

>>68340203
I just hope Kiara doesn't do that quiz again for the next gen coming in. Or atleast ask more generic questions that everyone could get easily.

>> No.68340528

>>68340439
>was a frigid bitch to the dogs in the early collabs
>has some of the fakest, cringiest faux-gfe I've ever seen. it's obvious she hates doing it but is pandering her little ass off
t. fake ruffian that never watched the very first minecraft collab
also holo vs holo

>> No.68340631

>>68340055
the only retard here is you. Kronii is a dead channel. She stunted her growth beyond redemption, do you realize how far she used to be ahead of Mumei? like 160k. And Mooms doesn't even stream either. Even at her best Kronii is a boring skank, her entire personality is "whoaaa like, I'm so high right now man. like, brooooo"

>> No.68340706

>>68340528
I've watched every advent collab, thanks. Shiori treats them like shit, every interaction they ever have is awkward. Biboo plays along with them and has fun, Nerissa at least tries even though she can't really keep up, but Shiori just doesn't give a shit

>> No.68340718

>>68340631
Actually Kronii at her best is pretty fucking funny. Unfortunately she shot herself in the foot so hard with "unfortunately idol culture is a thing" that it did permanent damage to her career.

>> No.68340785

>>68340706
>Conveniently ignores Shiori taking the time to be patient with FWMC in teaching them how to make stuff in minecraft when no one else would.
>Conveniently ignores Shiori spending time with FWMC and helping them to calm down during scary collabs
Sure, faker. You aren't an Adventrix chad.

>> No.68340883

>>68339965
>>68339888
it was a buzz-in segment and she clearly buzzed in multiple times (only 4 buzzers and can hear all 4), was just never fast enough as it was first to buzz. In the very first question, Kiara even says she was the second to buzz in.
Every time I've seen this "argument", just makes me think no one actually watched the segment or understood the rules, lol.

>> No.68341001

>>68339130
Who cares. She's enjoying her retirement home and she's fun to watch. Go back to your burning house, nijifag. You won't fool anyone.

>> No.68341082

>>68340785
I didn't say she hated their guts, just that most of the time she doesn't pay attention to them or play along with them. Helping out a couple times doesn't change that. Every advent collab without her is better and flows much smoother. The only one she really seems to have any rapport with is Nerissa.

>> No.68341144

>>68340706
>Shiori treats them like shit, every interaction they ever have is awkward.
Thats really just her spergs acting up. When two people have a conversation with each other near her she just defaults to not talking until they hit a landmine topic and she starts uncontrollably spewing the twenty responses she had saved up. She 'works well' with full advent collabs because nerissa will end every third sentence with 'how do you feel about that shiori' and give her an onramp.

>> No.68341278

whole thread overthinking that shiori is somekind of cold egoestical mastermind whrn in reality she is shy and most airheaded girl in holo EN

>> No.68341339

>>68340883
I’m almost positive I remember her getting fairly easy questions wrong when she won the buzzer race, though

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>>68339130
Well at least she's going forward

>> No.68341634

>>68341278
shiori is CUTE
>Verification not required

>> No.68342020

>Respect my collab choices
>Doesn't collab with anyone who isn't Advent or Mori ever

>> No.68342148

>>68341339
No, she never gets to answer even a single time, she never once buzzes in first. At worst she simply doesn't buzz in on questions, in which others buzzed in late.

>> No.68342244

>>68339130
Yeah, I fucking HATE Shiori now. That cute BITCH. That ditzy, loveable goofball HARLOT of a virtual youtuber. Did you hear about yesterday's stream? One of her cutest ones yet. Shit gave me diabetes. Unbelievable. Grrrrrrrrrr I am so angry.

>> No.68343493

>>68341339
You remember wrong then, she never won the buzzer race against FWMC a single time.

>> No.68343814

>>68339130
Shiori cute even tho i don't watch advent, rope yourself sister

>> No.68343863

>>68339792
Yet she gets shit CCVs and she's hands down the most boring member in EN

>> No.68343910

>>68339130
also
>ULTRA SEX
forgot this

>> No.68344522

>>68339130
>boring, sterile, and overly corporatized persona
Faggot you haven't watched a single stream, whens the next graduation nijicuck?

>> No.68344570

>>68341339
You're a faggot. She never won the race against FWMC. Almost nobody did, there was only like 3 questions they got beat on

>> No.68344579

>>68339130
Ruffian hands typed this

>> No.68344640

>Holo v. Holo
I wonder who is behind this thread.

>> No.68344645

>>68341344
>finana
HAHAHHAHA

>> No.68344784

Havent watched her or any of advent because i only watch my oshi
But my sub will be hers if they finally collab 1 on 1 and hits it off with same-chan, same with the rest of advent

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>> No.68344796

>>68339130
>What went wrong here?
Maybe next time try not interact with TEMPUS

>> No.68344846

>>68344784
>Chumbud
Opinion discarded

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Embarassing deflection thread, try being less obvious

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>>68339130

>> No.68345132

you're right about everything but your timing is shit, try making the thread again after we're done shitting on nijisanji in a year

>> No.68345203

>>68339130
That wasn't 6 months after debut. That was instantly, people just made up excuses at the time, but just letting time tick on always proves the point.

Like I said back then, Nerissa is the only genuinely talented person in Advent. She will draw fans because of her genuine singing talents, even though she's just a normie girl. FWMC didn't have an established fanbase as much as you're making it out to be. EOP watch them because they have a warped sense of how JP is and think they're just like them. Others watch them because they're coomer baiters and have been since early on, but it's only now that fewer people are pretending they're not. Anyone that thought they were genuine and kind has probably lost interest but forgot to unsub. That's why their sub total is high but it doesn't always reflect much on their viewer total. Biboo is a loli and has an automatic audience. Now, when it comes Shiori she had several conflicting groups to appeal to. At first she wanted to be someone that appeals to other vtubers, and she wanted to have educational streams, book streams, make a game, and make lots of videos. That's all fine, but you also saw her calculating change in demeanor already during debut when she was considering playing into what people wanted from her as their "goth" "GFE", and she started to lean into that and force it. She also started to lean into what people call her tangents now. These forced changes in attitude came off as so weird and forced that it repelled other potential fanbases. She didn't play it cool, she thought she could manipulate viewers that wanted GFE and also be respected for other content. After a couple of months of sending mixed signals now she has just focuses on whoever remained which are almost entirely the lowest effort coomers.

tl;dr she knew what she was doing, placed a bet, and got a small prize

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>nijideflection thread
Tumor weeks sisters

>> No.68345308

>>68344963
Numbers make the world go 'round and there's nothing you can do but seethe about it.

>> No.68345522

>>68339130
She is niche, also her RM did a disservice to her, also her voice is annoying and shitty, also debut had weird stuff. She probably has very loyal fanbase though, which is good, I wish her the best, I think she is an ok girl, I don't mind her in holo.

>> No.68345562

>>68344963
You don't even need to talk numbers but you could still talk about how her fake attitude doesn't translate well to cultivating a broad audience. She could have easily been twice as popular as she is now.

>> No.68345832

>>68340439
not a super shiori fan at all, Ive only watched a bit of her stuff and seen her in advent collabs for the most part. the break right after starting probably hurt her but if I had a family vacation planned already with everything paid for and was starting a new job I'd tell them I have the vacation and would be taking it just like she did. it happens all the time in the real world.

>> No.68345841

>>68339130
Nice bait sister I know a deflection thread if I see one

>> No.68345942

>>68339792
If you want a dead fanbase like Kiaras go ahead. Use collabs as a main way to grow while being boring yourself

>> No.68345978

>fanbase that somehow ended up more cancerous than Fauna's fanbase
nothing is more cancerous than fauna's fanbase

>> No.68346054

>>68345978
does she even do ASMR anymore? didnt she say weekly asmr when she debuted?

>> No.68346141

>>68340706
Fake adventrix fan just say you're biased clown

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>>68339130

>> No.68346254

>>68346054
She doesn't do anything anymore.
Just play games.

>> No.68346379

>shioricucks shitting on Fauna
weird

>> No.68346401

>>68341144
Based Nerizzler

>> No.68346420

>>68346254
I looked the other day when I was sick as a dog for some asmr to just close my eyes and sweat the flu out of me with and I think her last asmr stream was over a year ago at this point. theres other vtubers that do asmr but some of them I find almost "too aggressive" normally sounds will be too loud and I'll feel like I'm adjusting volume constantly (nene amano comes to mind) just wish shed put more stuff out I guess

>> No.68346471

>>68346420
It makes me think she never really enjoyed ASMR but just did it because she thought she needed to...

>> No.68347176

>>68340706
Example of her treating them like shit? The only thing I can see people interpreted her as being rude is the tsundere banter she does with Nerissa and she usually the nicest, especially towards the retarded doggos.

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>>68345562
>but you could still talk about how her fake attitude doesn't translate well to cultivating a broad audience

yeah I'm sure what she really needs is to collab with homos, right? Or maybe tell her audience they're dumb incels? I'm sure that'll really get those viewcounts up.

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>>68339888
>>68340883
Yeah, and she went silent afterwards save for one remark towards the end. Don't forget she has no oshi in hololive - other than her genmates, which she stated in a very canned manner.
Shiori's made it clear that she yearns for the earliest days of VTubing with the Shitennou and never truly liked hololive. But because her career as an indie had stagnated, there was no better option but to partially swallow her pride and apply for hololive.
She figured she could do her own thing and still make a ton of money, and she's right. Hot design + some personality = simp bucks. Simps can look past her dubious intentions because she'll give them attention and they can say tell themselves she's committed, given that she does edit videos and shorts herself as she had promised.
Maybe she will eventually get over her bias, but it's been 6 months and she's shown no progress in making friends with anyone beyond her immediate gen and Calli.

Anyway. This is a Selen termination deflection thread, fuck you OP.

>> No.68347798

>>68347663
Fauna and/or Mumei will bring her in, I belieb

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>>68347663
Stop shitposting with my oshi, kys

>> No.68348009

>>68347975
I'm gonna cum in shioris butt and theres nothing you can do about it

>> No.68348029

>>68347975
Stop proving my post correct.

>> No.68348095

>>68344579
I thought ruffians strangely liked Shiori?

>> No.68348102

nijikek deflection post

>> No.68348156

>>68348095
ruffians hate holos not their oshi more than nijiniggers or phasefags do.

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>>68339130
NIJI LOST LOL

>> No.68348223

>>68347663
Why Shiori dont open any HoloQuiz on the internet and do again to prove she care, maybe because the girl have made ZERO effort in this 6 months to learn about Hololive

>> No.68348334

>>68339130
She's actually secretly one of the sincerest member of Advent probably only 2nd to Biboo, Nerissa's okay, but Fuwamoco's fake af and just too much kayfabe.

Girl even got emotional trying to compliment her chat.
>https://youtu.be/KahF5kJ0Ajk?si=0jfv4IcSTpKcyNGf

>> No.68348369

6 more months homobeggar

>> No.68348463

>>68339130
fuck off nijinigger

>> No.68348472

>>68348334
for holo EN advent as a whole is my favorite. Shiori and Nerissa are my two least favorites and I still like them even though I normally only see them in advent collab streams. something about the way advent is with one another makes them highly enjoyable to watch.

>> No.68348583

Don't let Nijikeks distract you from the fact they drove a talent to attempt suicide.
Also Ruffians like all of Advent. Anyone who says otherwise is a Nijikek or a Phasefag.
Have fun with the next graduation sisters!

>> No.68348622

>>68344640
>muh unity
go back redditor

>> No.68348650

>>68348472
I too don't watch Shiori and Nerissa often. I used to like Fuwamoco a lot, but they just fall flat to me now. Their kayfabe is too much + the BAU BAU spam every fcking minute. I think Biboo's my fav in Advent and Shiori's the 2nd while Nerissa's the 3rd.q

>> No.68348998

>>68348223
Eigo jozu

>> No.68349106

>>68347180
She never once indicated that she was going to collab with male talents. This is something only neurotic autists believed because they're always delusional. She said she wasn't going to collab with anyone unless she felt close to them, so to expect that if she does collab with people it's because they're friends. You can rewatch her debut where she says this very clearly and then rattle on about the Mandela effect or you can admit that you're such a delusional person that now also makes up her low effort fans. You can also look through her streams and make up some excuse for why she has hardly done any collabs at all outside her own gen.

>> No.68349167

>>68339130
>cancerous
I'm convinced people who use this term to describe a vtuber fanbase they dislike is because they hate(and envy) how loyal and dedicated the fanbase are, for example Gura and Fauna's fanbase.

>> No.68349186

>>68347663
>Don't forget she has no oshi in hololive
And? Most in Hololive don't or didn't either. You make up drama out of nothing all the time, at some point you probably started to believe your own lies.

>> No.68349249

>>68349167
People use words for all kinds of reasons. When you try to read too much into it like "only X person uses Y word" then you have become the delusional kind of anon that should be ignored.

>> No.68349305

>>68339130
>fanbase that somehow ended up more cancerous than Fauna's fanbase
That would be ruffians.

>> No.68349333

>>68348650
I agree, I like Fuwamoco as a concept and hags who play retro games and anime songs is amazing, but their lack of, for lack of a better term, personal exhibitionism keeps my interest at arms length. Shiori and Nerissa are the kind of girls who talk openly about insane retarded stuff and wear their weaknesses on their sleeves. Fuwamoco is a bit too polished and rehearsed for me most of the time.

>> No.68349451

This is a deflection thread, but Shiori does suck.

>> No.68349562

>>68349249
But yet you didn't ignore it, because you know for a fact that it's true.

>> No.68349647

>>68349451
Yeah, my peepee

>> No.68349852

>>68339130
>FWMC
>Absolute powerhouse
>Bijou
>Streaming machine, good streamer
>Nerissa
>Really good singing, consistent streaming, good enough streamer, has pretty wide reach with collabs and interactions
>Shiori
>Confusing statement on debut
>Break shortly after debut
>Lots of chatting streams that aren't good for picking up subscribers quickly
>Doesn't collab outside of Advent
She's not even doing particularly badly, she's just doing the least good out of a powerhouse of a gen.

>> No.68350123

>>68349106
I think you missed the point of what I was trying to say

>> No.68350131

>>68339130
My first stream of hers I watched was the parasites stream, after that I was hooked.
Love her accent, personality is w/e, but I liked her PL ASMR enough to give her a chance.

>> No.68350264

>>68349333
I used to host a few radio shows and the first rule is always to be "Real". People will come for the show, but they stay for the personality and in the case of Fuwamoco, they REFUSE to let the act drop. From the voice to the constant Bau Bau's to always staying in character, at some point it actually reveals how fake it all is. That's not to say that they aren't good or that I don't enjoy watching them, but I know that it would go a very long way if they acted more like people and not DEMON GUARD DOGS PROTECTING YOUR SMILE BAU BAU! Hopefully over time they'll drop the act more and can really shine, but as things stand I'll enjoy watching the occasional stream and whatever collabs they do.

>>68339130
>boring, sterile, and overly corporatized persona
Come on anon, I don't really even watch her and I know that's not the case. She's niche and shot herself in the foot early on, but I like when she shows up in collabs and he shorts are entertaining enough. Coincidentally enough, that's also how I know she's not boring, sterile or corporatized at all. It's ok to not like something, you don't have to make shit up to justify it.

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>>68340166
>She is an IRL AITuber

You were supposed to downplay her selling points, Anon.

>> No.68350442

>>68348622
>Stir drama within your own branch or else (You) are le Reddit
Found the sister

>> No.68350485

>>68339250
fpbp

>> No.68350537

>>68339130
nijisanji en final yab deflection thread

>> No.68350789

>>68350264
>From the voice to the constant Bau Bau's to always staying in character, at some point it actually reveals how fake it all is.
Most days it's tiring to listen to, but sometimes it really hits a spot that others can't hit because of how autistically dedicated to the shtick they are. They're the only ones out there that have such a high degree of adherence to their character. Sometimes their brainrot just hits right.

Not the anon you're responding to by the way.

>> No.68350817

>>68340392
okay, tranny.

>> No.68350855

>>68344846
no real Chumbud would call her "Same-chan".

>> No.68351061

her fat filters me

>> No.68351064

>>68349852
the dogs and Nerissa aren't that great, man.

>> No.68351120

>>68344846
no real Chumbud would call her "Same-chan".

>> No.68351233

>>68339130
Probably the Holo I mostly blew my load to in the shortest amount of time active

>> No.68351284

>>68339970
I'm pretty sure she doesn't actually know what it means.

>> No.68351973

people starting holo vs holo, especially between genmates, are stupid.

>> No.68353068

>>68351973
>shiori
>holo
lmao, hires like this show that not even hololive is perfect

>> No.68353171

>>68353068
She has the blue dorito symbol, and is my oshi's genmate. You can kindly fuck off.

>> No.68353236
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>>68353068
She is in Holo and you aren't, sister.

>> No.68353358

>>68339970
Is this what the Left calls "White Fragility"?

>> No.68353407

Don't let any of this distract you from Dokibird finally getting a youtube play button she's allowed to touch.

>> No.68353455

>>68339706
Her voice actually makes me want to shove my cock down her throat to shut her up, which is different from Kiara who makes me want to do go outside.

>> No.68354235

Old habits die hard, she will never live down the blacked, ntr stuff and the collab choices. She even tried to filter people but cucks will be cucks

>> No.68354287

>>68339541
GIANTESS BIBOO VORE ME PLEEEEAAASE

>> No.68355088

Shiori is good she just needs to be more honest
I know her fans will deny this but she's always hiding her true self, I know vtubers are fucking anime characters, but you still can show true emotions, people want to see glimpses of your true persona. Her tangents are just a way to avoid real talk and they're getting boring, she can't say anything without laffin because everything is a "joke" to her.
I love the fact that she doesn't know much about hololive because that's what EN needs, something different, an outsider; you can see them grow and learn, that's the whole point of the idol journey.
Honestly, by the end of this year she could be one of the most popular Holos (on the EN side), I'm not being delusional

>> No.68355371 [DELETED] 

>>68355088
Surely, if she came clean with her passion for black guys, NTR-ing her fans and her 4 boyfriends she would skyrocket to the top of EN

>> No.68356072

>>68340706
i fucking wish you are right, it would be sooo much fun if shiori was a massive shit toward fmwc but unfortunately, no. even with a predetermined bias, i cant see that at all, on the contrary, it feels like shiori is unexpectedly kind toward fwmc.
maybe try to attack her with different angle next time? like "shiori treating fwmc like a retarded womanchild" or some shit

>> No.68356314

>>68339250
fpbp /thread

>> No.68358439

>>68356072
>i fucking wish you are right, it would be sooo much fun if shiori was a massive shit toward fmwc
Thank god hololive has more sense than retards like you.

>> No.68358490

>>68354287
my post btw

>> No.68358492

>>68355088
>because that's what EN needs, something different, an outsider
They dont. They just need gura to stream and everything is good.

>> No.68359612

>>68355088
On day one of her debut stream, I saw Moe debut as Shiori in Hololive. On her second stream, she pulled a 180 on her personality as everyone became weary of her being a male colaber or thought she wasn't a fit for hololive "culture". If you wanted her to be more open/true self, that ship has sailed brother; she's been running damage control since then.

Also, nice deflection thread OP

>> No.68359854

>>68347663
>>68348223
My niggas over the past 6 months Shiori has shown Holo merch and mentioned Holo merch that she has bought since the quiz. She also looks up to Subaru now, from since Sportsfes, at least try to fucking keep up retards.

>> No.68359893

>>68359612
>as everyone became weary of her being a male colaber or thought she wasn't a fit for hololive "culture"
>she's been running damage control since then
is this what the voices are telling you?

>> No.68360006

no wonder she's friends with m*ri, both have irreparable reputations and a dedicated platoon of cucks willing to defend their whoredom with their life

>> No.68360048

>>68360006
She will never collab with your homos tranny-san

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I wanna choke her

>> No.68360231

>>68339130
>6 months after debut
>slowest growing channel in HoloAdvent
Yeah she's in a gen with powerhouses, one of them had to be the slowest growing
>disproportionately hated by vtuber fans
Nijikeks, phasekeks and SEAposters aren't the majority of vtuber fans
>fanbase that somehow ended up more cancerous than Fauna's fanbase
Anon being dedicated to your oshi is not cancerous
>boring, sterile, and overly corporatized persona
You can at least try to pretend to watch streams
>inconsistent streaming schedule
What the fuck is inconsistent about her schedule? She streams 6-7 times a week, with an advent collab every week and a mem stream and zatsu on either Saturday or Sunday
>only member of HoloAdvent to not cross 500k subs so far
Not really a problem, she's still growing
Either way, this is just a Nijinig/Selen suicide attempt deflection thread

>> No.68360325

>>68339130
Her debut was shit, she actively shared her list of husbandos, and she is the only advent member to publicly associate with holostars

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>>68360085
She wants (You) to choke her
And by (You) I mean me

>> No.68360765

Numberfags will never understand that she is the kind of person to prefer a small but dedicated fanbase over a large and impersonal one.

>> No.68360877

>>68359893
Damage control is a bit of an exaggeration but I got the impression of desperation, assuming that she didn't want to go back to 2view hell after her big break in hololive. I'm sure she's fine now and I don't see a need for her to grow to 20 trillion like numbers wants. Half a million isn't small and I'm pretty sure her audience is very loyal, too. I just laugh at the idea that she'll ever be herself, 100 percent, ever again

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>>68350429
rune should draw piss art of my wife

>> No.68363171

>>68348650
Same, for me it was >FWMC>Nerissa=Shiori, now it's kinda Bijou>=Nerissa>Shiori>=FWMC.
[spoiBijouler]Honestly Fuwawa feels passive aggressive half the time if you don't share her interests. And their shtick is tiring on ears, I still like them, just less than any other advent.[/spoiler]

>> No.68363193

>>68339130
glad you think my oshi is hot too

>> No.68363195

She has that nasally Nijisanji voice. Like Enna. It's always a big red flag.

>> No.68363252

>>68363171
Fuck I fucked up the spoiler, embarrassing, who cares.
>it was Bijou>FWMC>Nerissa=Shiori*

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>>68348650
>>68349333
>Their kayfabe is too much
>their lack of lack of personal exhibitionism
>refuse to le the act drop
I guarantee you've never watched them outside of collabs. I always see this in the catalog, and then I see the exact opposite said in /baubau/.
Anyone who's actually been watching them knows that they get pretty personal and affectionate in memberships and streams that call for it (superchat readings, zatsus, their song after parties)
Obviously this won't be the case when they're playing fluffing fotm horror games.

>> No.68365388

>>68344579
ruffians love shiori because shiori is nice to the dogs and lets the dogs call her a cow

>> No.68365622

>>68364880
The real personal stuff is when they do idol watchalongs of their senpais concerts. There you really get to know what their hopes and dreams are. Game streams are just for them to destress and be silly.

>> No.68365786

>>68365622
>idol watchalongs of their senpais concerts.
Yeah, that too. Also including stuff that's important/personal to them like certain watchalongs (Princess Switch, School Days, Kanon)

>> No.68365824

>>68339130
She is the highest-grossing member in Advent if you have to split fuwamoco earnings. Quality over Quanity. Poor pebbles and nerissa music cover buff ain't gonna help them bring in the cash. Keep my wife's name off your fucking mouth.

>> No.68365859

>>68339130
You guys think her cunt has oreo pubes? That would be incredible.

>> No.68365904

>>68365824
>if you have to split fuwamoco earnings
You don't because they share a bank account.

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I like Shiori.

>> No.68366052

>>68365824
>She is the highest-grossing member in Advent if you have to split fuwamoco earnings.
Not this shit again.

>> No.68366055

>>68359854
>she has bought since the quiz
Grifter has to fit in somehow

>> No.68366106

>>68355371
The fact she made a whole video about all 4 was crazy kek

>> No.68366166

>>68349852
grifter behavior

>> No.68366290

>>68366055
>>68366166
You don't know what grifting is

>> No.68366356

Why can't Nijinogs just take company death silently? Why do they have to try and drag others down with them?

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>>68344579
Nijihands wrote this post. I like Shiori

>> No.68366846

>>68365824
ESL retard

>> No.68368804

>>68365904
>You don't because they share a bank account
Would you say the same if Shiori, Nerissa and Bijou were all grouped together on one channel, sharing one bank account and got better numbers than Fuwamoco?

>> No.68371568

>68368804
I suppose if they shared living expenses and worked almost exclusively as a group every stream, the situations would be comparable enough I'd be willing to concede the point. Also, NijiEN is crumbling and there's nothing you can do about it.

>> No.68373337

nobody except vtsisters even remembers the “collab statement”, guys
she’s just not entertaining it is sadly not that deep

>> No.68373748

>>68364880
Nobody likes to deal with ruffians. I watch them but watching less and less for obvious reasons, and I would have quit instantly if it meant I had to share the same space with the most vocal fans.

>> No.68377511

>>68339130
ok

>> No.68378197

>>68368804
If they were on one channel, lived together, and had a single bank account like FuwaMoco? Yes, obviously. The money coming in isn't divided in two because it goes to their shared account.
What they spend it on is meaningless

>> No.68378263

>>68373748
>Nobody likes to deal with ruffians.
That has nothing to do with my post though.

>> No.68378475

>2 more weeks amirite
It's getting sad now, OP

>> No.68378647

>>68373337
she's entertaining when she's actually do something and not yapping like a fucking autist every 1 minute, also very fucking bad thumbnail & stream title.

>> No.68378815

Gonna show my 'tism right here.
I refuse to watch her because of her awful layouts, the colors clash so much it almost feels intentional and the neon theme she uses looks tacky as fuck.
Don't even get me started on the fucking noise level thing she uses from time to time I fucking hate it.
Also her voice is not that enjoyable.

>> No.68380521

>>68339130
My primary complaint with this bitch is SHE DOESN'T LABEL HER STREAMS

I AM NOT OPENING A VOD IF I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING

>> No.68380690

>>68346471
Definitely not true, all she did was ASMR before becoming a vtuber

>> No.68381585

>>68340297
Kronii has an incredible radio voice and you're lying if you say otherwise. Trouble is, that's all she has. She has a good dry doomer sense of humour which I like, but beyond that why care? She sucks at most everything, doesn't put her voice to good use, and her negative attitude puts a damper on things. She was in the tsuyo MK8 cup at new years, but she spent the whole time whining about bad luck while iRyS tried to keep her from fucking killing herself or something. Like bitch just try and have FUN or something.

>> No.68382412

>>68339792
Just look at Ollie, she an example of collabing non stop with non holo members. She now has almost the lowest view out of every Hololive member

>> No.68382823

>>68343863
Nerissa is great because she's her own fanbase.

>> No.68383290

It's wild that people go in after the most quirked up unusual members of each gen for their noombers when their whole value to the brand is bringing new people in

>> No.68383785

>>68383290
SHUT UP im going to CUM in SHIORIN she is my SLUT

>> No.68384708

Eilene thread

>> No.68387734

IDC still would

>> No.68388670

Wait you’re saying that being the “oldest EN vtuber” means nothing?

>> No.68393629

>>68388670
it means hags are the hottest

>> No.68393913

>>68346471
She's close friends with shondo, and mainly did asmr, archives are on youtube.

>> No.68393980

>>68339130
>>fanbase that somehow ended up more cancerous than Fauna's fanbase
What the fuck do you have against saplings?

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>>68339130
>Mentions she wants to collab with m*ales too
>In her past persona called all her fans cucks
>Worst singer in holoen
>Entire personality boils down to "le goth gf who's quirky and eats with scissors"
>Never plays any good games and has an erratic as fuck schedule, even took a break almost immediately after debuting
Gee yeah I wonder why she's flopping

>> No.68394366

>>68394165
>bumping this shit thread just to falseflag as a pebble
Despicable.

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>>68394366
I am a pebble though? I'm allowed to love biboo and hate shiroi

>> No.68394569

>>68394457
Sure you are.

>> No.68394688

>>68394569
Anon liking one vtuber doesn't mean you have to like her entire gen. I'm also a fan of fauna for example but I can't stand kronii.

>> No.68394700

>>68394165
>Mentions she wants to collab with m*ales too
Hi BVTM
>In her past persona called all her fans cucks
Was she wrong? She had a boyfriend back then and her fans still watched her, they where cucks.
>Worst singer in holoen
Fucking fair
>Entire personality boils down to "le goth gf who's quirky and eats with scissors"
Also autism
>Never plays any good games and has an erratic as fuck schedule
She plays dogshit games but she's only taken two breaks in her entire career and her schedule is more stable than most of HoloEN, with her streaming 5-6 times a week consistently.

>> No.68394845

simple answer anon. We couldn't fix her.

>> No.68394938

>>68394700
>Was she wrong? She had a boyfriend back then and her fans still watched her, they where cucks.
I guarantee you every girl in holoen has a boyfriend or husband except MAYBE Calli because she's really fat and ugly and lives in Japan seemingly by herself with some cats.

>> No.68395143

>>68394938
You can at least do reps before making statements like this so confidently anon

>> No.68395321 [DELETED] 

>>68395143
I'd bet money on it, anon. We already know Mumei, Fauna, and Bijou all have boyfriends. The only other one besides Calli who I can think of that might not have one is Nerissa and the twins, but I honestly doubt it.

>> No.68395535

>>68395321
My nigga do fucking reps on Bijou, Shiori and recent reps on Mumei just for three of HoloEN

>> No.68395572 [DELETED] 

>>68395535
Bijou and Mumei are confirmed to have boyfriends, anon.

>> No.68395900

>>68395535
>>68395572
So is Shiori, no idea what this anon is on about. All 3 of those girls have known boyfriends.

>> No.68395979

>>68395900
Anon you might be the most retarded mongoloid in all of history, she had a boyfriend she doesn't now. Unless you'd like to share the info.

>> No.68396191

>>68395979
>she had a boyfriend she doesn't now
Source: your ass

>> No.68396258

>>68396191
>she has a boyfried
Source: your ass
>inb4 do reps
Prove the claim mongoloid

>> No.68396634

>>68396258
She literally announced on her old persona she had a boyfriend. We have NOTHING suggesting they've since broken up, anon.

>> No.68396788

>>68339792
>Nerissa has grown almost faster than the demon guard dogs in recent months.
Sometimes, I wonder if people even bother double checking the numbers when they write shit.

>> No.68396827

>>68396634
>We have NOTHING suggesting they've since broken up
This is why I tell you to do reps, you'd have known they've long since broken up before she was in Hololive. His account couldn't stop being a sad boi about it before he basically deleted it like 2 months ago.

>> No.68397511

>>68381585
Her voice is soulless, just like Nina's/Matara's, I can't listen to it.

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