/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

None, I hate Tranjisanji

>>6812496
Surely "trannysanji" is a more catchy portmanteau?

>>6812437
Imagine giving a fuck about Nijisanji

Some will. The majority will still treat them as a secondary anyway.

Lulu's dead. Pomusanji is great though. Not feeling anyone from the 2nd wave but if I had to I'd pick Selen I guess.

I still only like Pomu

>>6812437
From Niji I literally only like these 3 (2 now), and Ban Hada from NijiKR with her cute accent.

Lulu? More like WHOWHO. Discarded.

Selen? A chainsmoker who overdosed on laughing gas. Discarded.

Pomu? I watch. I follow. I promote.

>>6812614
>>6812660
I don't understand how you can like Pomu and not her genmates. They're pretty much a package deal since they collab so often.

for me its eli conifer

>>6812437
Wheres the hololive reject guy when we need him

>>6812693
I like the dragon as well but the fish is just vshojo light.

>>6812693
Bitch you think just because Pomu plays with Elira or Finana ill suddenly start warming up to them after months. I just do not care for their personalities at all

>>6812794
Disagree. Finana can sing, draw, has a genuinely sweet personality and her humor is more based in her airheadedness than in any of the sex jokes she throws out there. She's also legitimately dedicated to and interested in the games she plays, she's interested in completionism and doesn't phone it in, hence why she got so upset when she couldn't beat Tricky in FNF that one time. She's grown a lot since she began streaming.

>>6812660
>Lulu? More like WHOWHO
Cindy Lou Who...

>>6812794
Fuck the dragon.

Am I just being an asshole or is all their twitter bullshit really bad. I accept that I subject myself to it but Christ almighty these memelords make HoloEN look really tasteful

>>6813089
I only have Pomu subbed on twitter and she isn't that bad.

>>6813032
that's my to-do list

>>6813089
They're funnier on twitter than in streams. I wish HoloEN also shitposted on twitter

>>6812437
Falseflagger

>>6812437
niji s got too many insignificant chubas to like them as a whole
btw now disrespect to nijiFans, happy for you guys

>>6812754
The original has converted, most are just copying him since they comment very late into the thread.

NijiEN hasn't grown on me because they don't have a great singer. I liked Toko through Suisei and I'm starting to grown on Nui for being insistent to get EOPs/ESLs to her streams and also her big personalities.

>>6813273
Elira is pretty damn good, isn't she? And I dont know about Pomu but she was able to sing God Knows 100 times in a row so that's something.

I like some Nijis but not enough to dive into the rest. It's easier to treat them as indies than try to unravel the company's giant as fuck roster.

Listen we all know Hayama is actually the only good Niji.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJv1QCsPktQ

>>6812437
>watch some niji id's, don't care about the rest
>watch lulu, she graduates because stalking is a victimless crime LOL
>watch pomu. Like pomu. Occasionally watch her interactions with others, but they can't hook me
I don't care about nijis, only about some of their streamers.

>>6812437
God if those are the good ones imagine how the bad ones are

>>6813942
good taste

>>6812437
There is no good Niji. I mean, Kuzuha is okay but you might as well watch Jun channel if you're gonna watch
>male vtuber

>>6812437
>comparing "muh Pomu" and Electric Boogaloo to l*l*
Yeah, sure, whatever helps you sleep.

>>6813942
Hayama anon is that you?

>>6814476
Seething

>>6814492
Well, yeah. You're comparing a calm ASMR chuuba with two zoomer-like ones.

>>6814638
Yes

>>6812437
Okay you got me now. I've been a closet nijifag for months now and have a dozen favorites at this point, including males. Every week is so fun in Nijisanji, like this week with Chima 3D, Koushien, Obsydia stuff, Pomu/Pikamee collab, and Selen actually making Apex fun to watch.

>>6812437
You're wrong, Inui is the only good Niji

>>6816192
Suisei, get out.

>>6812437
I like Selen but gotdamn she do be having a looong neck

I'm only here to be Rosemi's paypig

I like Pomu because she's HER and that's it.

>read comments before shachimu rumors
>who cares about NijiEN, HoloEN already won
>read them after the rumors
>1 million subs in her previous life? Gura killer let's gooooooooooooo!!!
>rumors disproven
>nothing but shitting on her for being a chong with a BF

>>6812794
Can we not? Fish already gets insulted enough by Nijisanji itself.

>>6817235
I love fish.

>>6812437
dont tell people about Selen, she must be bad because Nijisanji bad.

Be honest, you guys only like Selen because she's /here/

>>6812437
>3 out of almost 200

GOD I WANT TO FALL ASLEEP ON SELEN'S LAP WHILE SHE TELLS ME THAT EVERYTHING IS OK.

>>6818538
>yeah anon, everything is gonna be okay, you're gonna make it- HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>6818461
Bullshit, people liked her from the very start of her debut stream. She is charismatic and a fun streamer. Being /ourgirl/ and being a talented gamer are things we found out later and the cream and cherry on top.

>>6819253
I respect her talent, her charisma, and good chat work. I respect that she's the dragon that isn't boring. I don't like POPULAR SHOOTER so it's a hard pass.

I was surprised to find that Pomu was the least subbed of gen 1. What's up with that? Everyone loves her.

>>6812437
anon aren't you forgetting someone?

>>6812437
Lulu and Pomu are trash, but Selen is a god. I don't care if she's a chink sellout, I love her and want to make love to her while listening to her beautiful joyous laugh.

She's also pretty funny and good at games.

>>6812437
It's more like "The only Niji I know""

>>6819345
Powerlevel too high for normalfags. She does have the most donations and voicepack sales though.

>>6819345
Before debut Susan nuked Pomu and Elira’s subs by half. From 20k to 10k. Finana took a 10k lead. Then after debut Finana was still leading. It is noticeable that Elira has been growing the fastest followed by Pomu then Finana. Elira overtook Finana at 70k but Pomu and Finana’s growth remained close. Up until now Pomu is continuing to close the gap between her and Finana with only 4k gap left.

>>6812437
>Pomu is the only good Niji
>Selen is the only good Niji
i have litteraly never saw anyone say this ever

>>6812437
>liking one person at any given point=liking an entire agency
(You) what.

>>6819345
Finana has a lot of dead subs from her subs not getting nuked pre-debut, and from people who sub solely for her Genshin whaling. Pomu pulls in better numbers than Finana in every other numerical aspect.

>>6812437
>Selen is the only good Niji
Nobody likes your shitty goblin, fuck off. Lulu is dead and yes, Pomu is the only good niji.

>>6812437
I don't like nijisanji, I like NijiEN It's like HoloEN without chimken and caren, there's just nothing to hate about

>>6819636
i'm saying it right now

>>6812437
Lulu was the only good JP
Pomu is the only good EN

There.

>>6820228
>fish

>>6812437
I don't like niji, I like some vtubers there
Unlike Holo, where I like everyone but dislike some vtubers

Why would you abuse the quote function with made up quotes like that

>>6820411
Holy fuck I sound like I'm ESL sorry am drunk

>>6820409
Fish is harmless. The dragon though is a problem, using the official account to promote homosexual pedophile propaganda.

>>6820409
She's dumb, but that's just not enough to hate her and besides it's makes good chemistry for the collabs.

As a pure Holo fan, I think many Nijis are pretty awesome from what little I watched off of clips. The whole fan war's fucking retarded.

>>6820228
>chimken
>caren
I'm pretty much agreed with this post

>>6819122

>>6818306
>One Anon
Rest of the thread generally dislikes her like >>681987 >>6820409

>>6812437
never

>>6812437
Why would you like nijisanji when it's just a bunch of cliques? Even nijisanji members couldn't name all of their colleagues if you asked them it's just too many and often with pretty low viewcount too.
Lulu felt like an indie most of the time, she barely collabed other than with debi perhaps, many EOPs didn't even know she was a niji.

>>6812437
Lulu...

>>6812794
>finana is vshojo lite
They hated him because he spoke the truth.

>>6826576
Sounds like pussy to me.

>>6813089
they have lower numbers so they have to shout for attention. When you think about it Holo ID does it too just like Artia back in the day.

>>6813089
If by tasteful you mean bland and sterile

>>6826489
Do you get a job to make friends with everyone or do you join to earn money and make connections

>>6826872
Why not both

>>6813917
I mean even nijisanji fans will tell you you're not supposed to follow them all because it's impossible and even livers themselves couldn't name all other members so you just pick and choose whoever you like and mostly ignore the rest. Nijisanji is more like a platform than a team but for some reason they seem to have quite a few hardcore stans loyal to the brand.

>>6826912
Because that's expecting a hell of a lot, and even the other company despite their image clearly doesn't have the group cohesiveness they like to project to the public

>>6819572
So you're telling me there's less than 10k schizos on /vt/ who like Pomu but not Fish?

>>6826489
Just because Hololive forces everyone to be buddy buddy 247 for the family meme doesn't mean every company works this way. Nijisanji also has literally over 100 Japanese chuubas, do you really expect everyone to be close? Recently, Levi talked about how shy she was to ask Kuzuha to show up to her 3D since they rarely talked one-on-one, but not only did Kuzuha invite her to Amogus before, he immediately accepted her request, so this clique shit is stupid. Also saying Lulu barely knew anyone in Nijisanji is fucking retarded and you're a clipwatcher

>>6818461
>>6819253
She's a /here/? or was, rather? how did people find that out?

>>6812437
I miss Lulu. These three are exactly my favorite three.

>>6819331
She literally isn't streaming POPULAR SHOOTER any more this week, it's shovel knight, onimusha and then little nightmares 2.

https://twitter.com/Selen_Tatsuki/status/1416976569327779840

>>6812521

Much catchier.

>>6812437
I literally don't give a fuck which agency she belongs to, loved her as an Indie, love her now, would love her if she was in any other agency

>>6812437
>they just like Nijisanji
I don't like Nijisanji.
I don't like Hololive.
I like my oshii who might be in one of those groups, but I don't give a fuck about any of those groups in particular.

>>6812437

I never gave a fuck about brand loyalty just watched what I like. HoloEN was taking most of my time recently but I got really bored of them. Cover plays way too safe now. TTRPG streams are good but 90% of the rest is meh.

I love hololive. Always have and I always will.
I don't like HoloEN and I never will, NijiEN fills those time slots for me.

I don't think people who only watch Niji know how insignificant their numbers are and that's sad

>>6827451
Incredibly based

>>6828450
Who cares about numbers? Only you fags do. Niji fans just like the livers they like, not numbers numbers numbers. Do you even watch streams?

what did Lulu do to prompt death threats anyways?

>>6828920
She used to be an IRL idol before vtubing and you know how schizo Japanese people get over idols. She was also getting them for months, and would have to take breaks while the police dealt with it, but more would appear afterwards because they're massive doxfags that make this board look like an organization of saints.

>>6828998
dang that sucks, Lulu was my favorite

>>6829080
It's a sad reality that you can't do anything about it, as they'll all share her information around and keep stalking her every move even if the police somehow DMCA'd her dox. They were showing up to her house even. Her reasoning for quitting is that she didn't want to half-ass streaming due to having to take so many breaks. My one solace is that all her friends will still play games and talk with her/be with her while she stays offline. And her twitter won't be deleted, she said she'd still look at new tweets.

>>6813118
The gachikoi is blind to his obsession's faults

>>6820620
Source on that anon?

>>6829366
Anon is referring to her saying she read the book "They both die at the end" which is a homo fujo book, and she classified it as LGBT genre on Twitter, which it is classified as because BL doesn't exist in America as a genre in stores. Anon also missed her sperging out about gay ships to the point where she watched a borderline porn fujo anime with her mom in the room as a kid, and her mom has accused her of being a fujoshi, so I'm not sure why he's so shocked.

>>6829366
She mentioned that she liked a novel about gay teenagers or something. More sad attempts at creating controversy.

>>6829568
>>6829577
Ah, I see. So, she's crazy.

>>6829632
All Vtubers are crazy, including (You)r oshi

>>6818461
Wait what, is or was she /here/ trashlurker that managed to go into corpo?

>>6829704
She's /here/ in that she said "Do your archive reps" so she must be TOTALLY HERE BROS

>>6827112
as Selen would say
"Do your archive reps"

>rosemi last in subs even among her genmates
Is she gonna disappear once again bros?
>>6829951
What was the context? Was someone sperging about her past/roommate? Then i would be inclined to believe she is fucking with her audience on purpose and at least lurks.

>>6828450
It's almost like chuubas have intrinsic value that can't be quantified and circlejerked over in your miserable numberfag thread

>>6830175
I want rurudo to make more daughters, why is nabi a whore instead?

>>6827084
So this is the legendary Nijicope

Selen must be bad at games, she doesn't even have 100k yet!

>>6830080
No, she was discussing watching stream VODs. It's easy to believe she lurks because this board is talked about on Twitter pretty openly. And you can tell by the amount of braindamaged tourist posts and unironic Twitter reaction images spammed everywhere.

>>6829632
You need to have a level of menhera to be a good VTuber.

>>6830240
Many such cases. Sad.

>>6830257
Then based on only that, i would be hard pressed to be all like DUDE SHE LURKS. It works in context to what was being talked, and the word reps is not some secret 4chin lingo.
Hell, i wouldn't be surprised if many indies, or indies recently turning corporate were here since it is the only not gatekeeped place that actually discusses them, but thinking that someone saying do your archive reps when talking about hers, or some other person vods counts as proof, then he is completely delusional.

>>6830280
True but fujoshi's are pure trash. Your oshi is going to do something dumb and get fired for it. Save yourself the pain now

>>6812437
how many shitty one dimensional chuubas will niji turn out before they realize their brand's reputation is shit

>>6830402
If being a fujo is a fireable offense then 1/4th of female chuubas would be kicked out. Also you are talking about the company that has a woman who watched shota porn on stream.

>>6830513
How do Naji shitters even cope?

>>6830402
She isn't in Hololive. Nijisanji livers get away with much worse and nobody bats an eye.

>Nijisanji livers get away with much worse and nobody bats an eye.
I assume you are talking about alcohal since the liver is mainly used to filter that. If they can get away with much more intake I'm curious what they did to strenghten their livers. High alcohal intake can damage the liver.

Will Pomu make it bros? I don't want to lose her too...

>>6830547
Anon, it's not like Hololive doesn't have fujos who openly talk about fujoshit too

I like some individual Niji chuubas but I zone out during collabs and straight up ignore them on big Nijisanji events, this literally only happens to me with Nijisanji, it honestly doesn't feel like I like Nijisanji

>>6819345
>>6830658
Don't worry about Pomu. She has a good number of gachikois and dedicated fans that support her financially. If I were to make a Hololive comparision, she's the Flare of her generation.

>>6812693
By watching her very occasionally and closing the stream if any of her wavemates invade her stream

>>6830841
I meant her health.

>>6830257
>you can tell by the amount of braindamaged tourist posts and unironic Twitter reaction images spammed everywhere
I'm newer to /vt/ and I'm amazed at how different the board culture is here and this definitely explains it

>>6831005
I thought it was only /wvt/ or /asp/ thing since you literally share the thread with people you watch to some degree.
You mean it is like that everywhere on this board?

>>6830895
She'll be fine. Burgerland has a great healthcare system albeit expensive AF. Fortunately she has a full-time job with health insurance benefits, so she'll be covered.

*opens thread*
*recognizes no one*
whom????
*closes thread*

>>6831005
Back in 2018 it was /wsg/ that was a pretty significant gateway for the retards since that board is also kind of just a Twitter/reddit adjacent in terms of users but it was manageable. Since Hololive's incline in late 2019 to all of 2020 newfags and retards have become the majority and they don't really have any reason to lurk since they're only here for one thing, and this board is so young that it might as well be separate from the rest of the site entirely.

>>6831207
No, it is genuinely like this in other threads, except the dead as fuck ones.

>>6831389
Maybe it was expected with vtubers kind of exploding in popularity. That said it is surprising at least little, i don't remember holo threads on /jp/ being like that, and /niji/ threads back then were kicking people out of their threads and not engaging in any kind of spoonfeeding.

>>6831354
based senility enjoyer

>>6831523
This board is new as fuck and so isolated that regular users don't know much about site culture. There are vtuber fans who can't even get weeb references.

>>6830225
Blame ENfags bloating the shit out of Uto's subscriber count.

>>6812437
>brand loyalty
I like some Nijisanji talents, but I'd never say that they're the only good ones in the company. Mainly because there are so damned many of them. Who knows if there's some diamond in the rough I haven't seen yet?

I'm really familiar with most of hololive's talents, and my oshi's among them, but that doesn't preclude me from checking out other vtubers.

I used to be a Holofag but I'm almost fully on Team Nijisanji now. LazuLight is just so fucking good, and Selen looks pretty interesting too. Meanwhile I lost interest in Hololive outside of Kiara and Haachama, and Haachama stopped being good 5 months ago.

>>6812437
>Selen is the only good Niji
said who? most of those statements are made by different people
Pomu is the only decent NijiEN

>>6830631
Onibaba livers don't conform to human rules.

>>6828554
They can't keep doing these 'vtuber' stuffs if they don't have enough numbers to sustain themselves. Niji vtubers probably need to perform better than Hololive because their company is bigger therefore it costs more to operate. No matter how good or likable they are, if their numbers aren't big enough, they can't continue to exist.
>>6830175
Of course I don't only look at numbers. I know about the girl you posted. She has ugly, unpleasant voice and she's the least popular in her gen. Still, despite all that, she's doing better than any Niji except maybe the top one.

>>6833550
Hololive pays their chuubas a salary so they're expected to perform and get big numbers to sustain their job. Nijisanji pays 0 salary and it's a job for some, while others just do it as a hobby.
>probably need to perform better than Hololive
You have no idea what you're talking about. The top Nijis trail behind the top Holos yet they're still fine. Their coworkers who get double digits are also still fine. This idea that Anycolor graduates those with low numbers is honestly braindead. You only need to open Holodex that has Nijis also listed and see how half of them get indie tier views.

>>6833765
Hololive paid a salary even when they were very low on the totem pole and was one of the reasons they attracted anyone. Matsuri may say otherwise now but that was the main reason she tried for them. Subaru too.

I don't have to like the other nijisanjis.
I like Selen and that's it.

>>6833765
>Hololive pays their chuubas a salary
They do? I thought they just put money on their live2d and some debut shilling, afterwards they just get their own cut from superchats and talent pockets the rest.

>>6833550
>costs more to operate
Niji actually costs less to operate than hololive as they don't pay a salary they just provide support. Niji themselves make most of their money on merch and shit. Because of this niji has basically no performance requirements for their vtubers.

>>6833765
Their vtubers are doing it for free but the staffs aren't. The salary of those staffs, the cost of the equipment, the cost of their flopped events, the cost of their fruitless advertising, etc. They might not graduate the underperforming vtubers but the company itself is going to implode if the talents can't make enough money for them.

>>6834513
Given that they will give everyone in JP a 3D live which pays for itself, they're doing fine. Levi barely has gachis and she's on the low end of views yet she still made 3 million yen in one stream.
>>6834513
Again you're just talking out your ass

>>6834171
See >>6834513
>>6834700
What? Do you seriously think there's no other staffs in the company beside the vtubers that need to be paid? Do you think the studio and the equipments are all free to use? Also, have you seen how they use ads to promote their talents? Look at the NijiEN, they don't get any new fans from the ads, and look at this shit https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1416974427716153344 these ads aren't doing anything, they're just pissing their money away

>>6835180
Just because they have other costs don't mean those costs end up being more than the costs they cut retard. Yes, they spend money but it's absolutely not anything they can't afford. You're just completely skewed on what amount of viewers constitutes being successful from the ridiculous popularity explosion of hololive.

>>6835180
>and look at this shit https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1416974427716153344 these ads aren't doing anything, they're just pissing their money away
[citation needed]

>>6835180
They are wealthy enough that they can splurge on ads pandering to women on Otome Road. You have no indicator of how well these advertisements do or how they affect the company's sales because merchandise sales aren't open to the public. So again, you are just talking out your ass. If Anycolor is bleeding money by shilling Chronoir then they should be bankrupt already because those are one of the most shilled units ever.
The studio is used regularly for their shows, lives, etc. since the fucking beginning. But yes Anycolor is so poor and broke due to their vtubers making no money that somehow their staff is underpaid despite these shows still going on? I totally believe your word, a literal who on an EOP board.
This is one of the few times where I implore an anon to take meds because you're seeing writing on the walls that doesn't exist.

>>6812521
Nijitranji?

>>6834513
Anykara imploding so hard they re-located to Roppongi of all places...

>>6812496
just be glad shartemis isn't in

>>6812437
I like Nui, Tomoe, Elira and Selen. And Lulu obviously

>>6812794
Fish's spicyness actually becomes pretty funny when she has a genmate to play tsukkomi for her. Then it kinda feels like watching SYD, which I really like for some reason.
t. a prude

>>6812693
Why the fuck would i care about her genmates? This is not hololive anon.. it's individual purchase not a package deal

>>6854817
All of the NijiEN girls collab far more than the HoloEN girls do.

>>6812693
Pomu is a based boomer. The other two are cringe zoomers.

>>6813273
Utako is also EOP/ESL friendly anon and she is actually funny. Sub to her

>>6854859
As someone who partakes in fujo media she makes me feel massive cringe but I commend her for being upfront about it. Also Utako stop shilling yourself here I have seen like 5 posts within the last 24 hours

>>6820620
Fucking based. Sjwtwittards btfo

>>6812437
>Lulu is the only good Niji
Correct. Along with Mito, Lize, Kuzuha, Yashiro, Touya, Sara and Maimoto. Pomu and Selen are shit, sorry.

>>6827084
It's (you) holofags immigrant who force it on everyone face. Nobody said they should like all of them like hololive are. (You) fucker came whining why we only love pomu and not everyone else. That's not how niji works. You love who you love and ignored the rest that doesnt matter much for you. Dont shove that holoshit over here or go back

>>6854840
So? Why the fuck should i care about the others? Go back (you) holofag

>>6812437
Who are you quoting?

>>6854964
Because they're always together and they like each other. You'd have to actively avoid a good amount of their content if you refuse to watch the others.

I only like NijiEN because that's the only language group in Niji that I understand the words they speak, this also applies to HoloEN.
If they're entertaining, that's enough for me.

>>6835180
what if its the other way around? what if anycolor is actually reinvesting the money they get, while cover just sits on fat reserves doing nothing?

>>6854918
GREETINGS MORTAL, ARE YOU READY TO DIE?

>>6812437
Lulu's dead
Pomu's nothing but saviorfag bait
Selen's untested

>>6812437
when the number of nijis they think are "good" is 20% of the nijis that exist