/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://vt.poi.cat/

Hololive sites
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://holosongs.com/
>https://holo-spotify-stats.jirikunes.eu/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber
>https://www.nijiuta.com/

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

>>68120555
I mean, they are larger than a 30k-average-for-4-hours stream vod should be
Viewer churn is of course a thing so all in all not many people are still doing the cull timeloop

>>68120496
NotPomu already fucking streaming?

>>68120646
FAQ

>>68120679 (me)
*should be right after ending

Holos for this feel?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PKC2Jadekw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PKC2Jadekw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PKC2Jadekw
IRyS overlapping the last 30 minutes of the homo's showcase

>>68120752
Suisei, Towa, Ina.

>>68120752
Rushia really had that niche dominated.

>>68120816
based, might give Goobs a reason to play longer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PKC2Jadekw
>starting 30 minutes before Bae
kek

>>68120816
Wills this be it? The 4th GuRyS interaction on stream?

>>68120752
Festival, except despite being one of the MOST menhera members, she's managed to keep most of it off main.

Actually, why the fuck is mococo's merch shipping more expensive than fuwawa + mooms merch together? This makes no sense...

GRIM

>>68120713

>>68120816
TOTAL FAGGOT DECIMATION

Did Kuzuha call another bitch fat or some? Who is Tacopa they keep bringing up

>>68120645
Huge difference, because at the time, Holo had 10 great things happen in a month, then a gut punch at the end of it. Those were almost always external, so the bad stuff brought the fandom together, apart for the Coco-Chamma suspension.
Even in their best months, Niji has felt like 2 steps forward, 5 steps back, most of them self inflicted.

>>68120887
Clearly her plush is more of a fat fuck

>>68120679
Look, I am not against the cull theories, but the arguments for them itt are often extremely retarded and can be disproved easily
The only numbers that can be used to tell a cull reliably are likes and poll votes. Compare to
>VOD views: Vary greatly depend on stream length and sub count
>Waiting room: Depend on different viewer behavior and overlap
>Chatters: Unironically chat culture, we have seen viewer type that never chat, and viewer type that chat too much
And like you said, VOD view have viewer churn too, and the churn rate increase with more sub, we have seen this in Kobo

>>68120870
??? She's pro masturbation.

DINO GURA? Numbers?

>>68120870
Matuli is not really a menhera anymore, she mellowed out quite a bit since her early days.

Guys, I think Gura is going to rape Okayu for real

>>68120950
Should probably be at least another 30k unless Ina is still going for some reason or Fauna/Ame put a frame up.

>>68120950
40k

>>68120816

>>68120950
42k
I bet someone else's balls

>>68120924
>People like you are called developmentally disabled
God DAMN Kuzuha up to some real shit in his stream

>>68120950
16-18k
>return buff gone
>palworld buff fading away
We're going to start seeing her normal numbers again if she continues to stream.

>>68120932
Anon "things_cover_should_do.txt" was a meme during that time for a reason.
Granted, it only lasted for a few months, but there was definitely a perception of multiple yabs happening to them during those days.

>>68120924
He's hating on retards not sisters, though.

>>68121002
She should stream it

>>68120816
Hoping for Gura Irys kino again

>>68120924
???
Is this a Joji type situation where tiktok zoomers only recently found out about Filty Frank?
Why are they binging up his stuff from back when he was a known troubled teen?
The main thing that made Kuzuha endearing early on was that he grew out of his foul mouth, rage shit with Kanae's help.

*FINAL EN COPE TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*

>02/03 TALLY (1.000 - 4.999)
4.852: Pippa (Phase-Connect) | Infinite Craft
4.426: Bae (Hololive) | Lethal Company w/ Bijou, Fauna, Kaela
4.320: Calli (Hololive) | Persona 3: Reload
4.193: Enna (Nijisanji) | Handcam Stream
3.792: Elira (Nijisanji) | Monster Roadtrip
2.981: Elira (Nijisanji) | Final Fantasy XIV
2.366: Uruka (Phase-Connect) | Singing Stream
1.824: Vermillion (Nijisanji) | VRChat Chibi Model Debut
1.619: Kyo (Nijisanji) | Just Chatting
1.579: Goldbullet (Holostars) | Handcam Stream
1.547: Kyo (Nijisanji) | Final Fantasy XIV Collab
1.536: Scarle (Nijisanji) | Handcam Stream
1.487: Fulgur (Nijisanji) | The Legend of Zelda: TOTK
1.483: Shiina (Phase-Connect) | Variety Stream
1.476: Ruze (Holostars) | Monster Hunter World Armis Collab
1.376: Maria (Nijisanji) | Project Sekai
1.323: Hakka (Holostars) | Poppy Playtime
1.252: Wilson (Nijisanji) | Lethal Company
1.252: Meloco (Nijisanji) | Project Sekai
1.251: Uki (Nijisanji) | Final Fantasy XIV
1.142: Vantacrow (Nijisanji) | Final Fantasy XIV
1.099: Scarle (Nijisanji) | Variety Stream
1.087: Vezalius (Nijisanji) | Project Sekai

Did Kyo pay for his redesign or was it Anycolor?

>>68120950
30k

>>68120950
30k floor like last stream, unless the Palworld buff actually going away like JP

Your oshi is a cowardly homo sympathizer if she haven’t stream over a homo debut or 3d.

>only 1100 waiting
Why are people expecting big numbers here?

>>68120816
based

>>68120924
takoparty anon, they eat takoyaki

>>68120699
She was playing a game while Twitter spacing.

>>68121002
She had to be literally dragged to see Okayu. She really doesn't care for meeting the JP girls.

>>68121010
Ina will be lucky if she gets 10k

>>68120950
if she got the smol ame mod in as well and stared an amesame breeding pen, 60k

>>68120938
Oh no, I meant the 'cray cray enough to smash your phone and threaten you after'. I know she wouldn't have an issue with the masturbation, and hell, if it was her boytoy she'd just jump his bones too.

>Let everyone leave at once
The branch pretty much dies but it can start growing again afterwards
>Staggered graduations
Rock bottom morale for everyone involved, the whole thing will die fully and fuck up your reputation for years at least BUT you can earn a bit more money

THEY ARE

Why isn’t Gura First Army? She clear 20k regularly now

Why is there a "EN numbers" thread now?

>>68120950
I'm overshooting here but 50k seems about right for Dino Gura hype. There already thousands in her waiting room already. I expect giga buffed numbers just for the gimmick alone.

>>68120924
>It's the ones who are bullied who are the ones who are bullied.
He has such a way with words.

>>68121176
Yeah, but this is specifically about being anti-masturbation. Or girls who think liking 2D shit is cheating.

>>68121163
She loves the JPs and the JPs love her.

I miss Fauna

>>68121163
>She had to be literally dragged to see Okayu
Except the part where they literally did not drag her yes. Unless "literally dragged" means "Okayu had to invite her"

>>68121221
>EN
never ever

>>68120645
>AR live 3D into all of NijiEN appearing at Nijfes maybe could've been a good start to counter the flood of graduations and other bad news.
Mate, to resurrect their reputation NijiEN would need an “ego death”, some time in the purgatory and a rebirth into something completely new, not too different to how Brave Group went from
>that black company that replaced gamebu VAs
to
>VSPO parent company
Except NijiEN is not a company, they’re merely a branch so the most likely course correction act by Anycolor will be merge them in, put the undesirables in the broom closet and prop up whoever can still make a profit

>>68121033
And still the fandom rarely thought Cover management was malicious back then, just overwhelmed and unprepared. (some of the Coco and EN stuff later probably was)
Niji's management at best looked lazy, at worst like they were sabotaging the talents for petty reasons.
They need to work way harder to improve that image and, even 3 months of all good news can be cut down by 1 mismanagement again. Since people will say they never really changed.

>>68121212
Anon.....

>>68121002
I hope Gura asks for a nightwear outfit.

>>68121176
Oh, well I took the 'holos for this feel' bit wrong then.

UniGODS thoughts on Enna's desperation?

>>68120936
There is no viewer type that chats too much when you count unique users, it's a value of 1 or 0. Either they chatted or they didn't.

>JWU
>Every single one of FWMC bait in the 'log has doxx posted there
Wtf happened now? why they're so mad at them

>>68121032
>her normal numbers
stop living in the unculled era old man. in this era Fauner is a 5view and Gura is a 20k+ streamer on anything short of giga debuffs/overalps

>>68121002
I already fucked Okayu.

>>68121343
success breeds etc., it's not more complicated than that

>>68120950
25k ..... also UOH

>>68121335
Shes about to lose her fuckboi
Yeah im laughing

Everyone in EN is 30K unculled. Gura has alway been a 6view. Youtube didn’t want their platform to be associated with Gura so they culled her.

>>68121350
>muh cull
ENfag please

>>68115026
lmao

>>68121316
Gura in a light blue negligee.

>>68121335
This is just weird

>>68121271
That cover with okayu is so fucking good

>>68121343
Immensely successful birthday made the homotrannies seethe and dial 8

>>68121424
Unironically true, Susan shit herself in outrage upon seeing a loli vtuber get 100k+ viewers.

>>68121379

>>68120816
>literally streams earlier with the whole purpose of overlapping the homo
damn IRyS I know you are based already no need to be so cruel

>>68121424
Anon we do know EN real numbers before being culled

>>68121343
The dogs are doing well. So, jealous 2 views are jealous of the 2 views who made it. Also, Tempus 3D debut deflection.

>>68120887
They put some of the shipping cost into fuwawas set since she's heavier

>>68120816

>>68121434
>Get as much superchat as JP
>Get as much view per video as JP
>Get as much like per video as JP
>Get as much sub as JP
>Get as much chat interaction as JP
>Get as much membership as JP


>”Muh cull doesn’t exist”

>>68121343
>>68121343


they are still seetheing from this LMAO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_kZ1WSpJBg&t=1041s

I fucking love Promise by Kohmi Hirose

>「My Dearest」 - 音乃瀬奏 (cover) *new*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxZeLM9rx7s
>「DAYBREAK FRONTLINE」 - 音乃瀬奏 (cover)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWexRFqs3Wg
>「名前のない怪物」 - 音乃瀬奏 (cover)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45ZfAdZuaok

>>68121596
>More than half have nothing to do with ccv

>>68121302
Unlike Cover, they've also MISSED chances to fix things and repair their reputation.
First one ofc was the Discord leak.
Imagine if in 2020 during a JP collab there was a discord leak where Pekora, Miko, Matsuri and Fubuki were shittalking Niji for trying to overlap Gen 5 with Selejo, calling them flops talking about an "all out war", and talking about how their ID and EN branches were much better and shit.
The internet would've exploded.
Niji would've released a public statement and issued fucking lawsuits.

On the EN side they didn't even acknowledge it. That was the moment when they cemented themselves as the "sweep problems under the rug" branch.
They literally CANNOT come clean at this point. They've had multiple chances to do it, but haven't taken them. They will circle the drain until the inevitable merger of the branch.

>Watching that one six hours long VSinger medley from new year
>Get to this
https://youtu.be/hF_f1-b3p1g?t=10627
lmao

>>68121666
>2~3x less CCV despite both branch having the same stats

>>68121523
hm...

>>68121335
>have you ever kissed anyone romantically
ye-
>not you mother or sister
then no

>>68121728
You've kissed your mother and sister romantically?

>>68121596
none of this is true

>>68121728

did fuwamoco's birthday streams mindbreak sisters? tons of anti threads getting spammed in the catalog today.

>>68121728

>>68120816
Baused

>>68121677
"sweep problems under the rug" only works when your members are genuinely good no? because fans and casuals will try to treat it as nothingburger as long as you never make another yab, problem is outside of management being garbage, nijien members also not doing themselves a favor by making their reputation clean.

>>68121596
It's actually more, not as much. Not sure if JP is botted, EN is culled, or both.

>>68121728
A L A B A M A
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>>68121827
yes, plus they're still mad over the 10s things. You can expect it to continue today when fwmc go for 4.5 hours and overlap the homo 3d

>>68121523

>>68121827
They've been mindbroken since that expo stream

>>68120816
Beggar status?

>>68121827
Yes. They can't cope with them having so much love and support despite ignoring da bois.

>>68121717
It's Aki related

3rd Alternative PV when? We got enough new holos to pull it off

>>68120950
Between 10k and 100k
Ina funnel will get her to 35k

>>68121827
I wonder if they actually thought the dogs would kneel, acknowledge, or apologize. Or shit on their fans for twitter points.

>>68121708
>Same stats
Gura have near 5 millions subs, just with that alone her VOD view, likes, members should, no MUST be more than JP
>Superchat
Irrelevant to ccv, bigger ccv =/= more SC
The only one I agree with is chat interactions. Otherwise, nah

>>68121677
>On the EN side they didn't even acknowledge it.
kek, yes they did.
>THEY FUCKING PARODIED IT WITH THAT "TOTALLY NOT 4CHAN" stream
They also gave shoutouts to FalseEyeD and other dramafags (back when their favorite targets were Holo girls).

>>68121302
to this day nobody trusts Brave, vspo viewership are retarded fpstourists + the viewfarms boosts

>>68121876
I feel like somewhere along the line people forgot JP fan live in the same timezone as well, thus JP number logic absolutely CANNOT be applied to EN. Because living in the same timezone mean more people can catch the stream live
Basically cull argument somehow got worse over the years, people keep forgetting all the most basic shit when arguing about cull these days

>>68114308
this needs to happen
as you said, it would be really funny

>>68121302
I feel like the ART live is culturally important for them but the actual fans who want it as an event are few. I think Nijifans just want their cake but aren't really interested in actually eating it.

>>68121343
They spent like a week seething at FWMC in a youtube comments section and unbelievably it didn't seem to do anything

for the retarded newfags, pic rel is the time when the cull went live in december 2020. shit like ccvid are just extra retarded culls, but this main one never went away

>>68121392
If Gura gets 25K tonight then I am completely confident she has surpassed the 20K barrier, which is fucking incredible. We may be living in uncharted territory.

>>68122146
she won't even hit 20k

>>68122141
Shitposter will never acknowledge this cause it show JP got culled too and not just EN

>>68122001
They'd gotten quite used to that sort of behavior in 2022-2023, you gotta admit.
Ame's improve yourself shit, Kronii's thing, hell even Bae talking to her audience like 8 year olds who are about to get a new daddy when Tempiss debuted
Christ it was bad. And it's those times that brought the sisters in.
Sure girls ignoring homos is a blow but girls *actively* making it clear they don't want that shit? That removes the "they'll do it eventually/just afraid of their fans" copes. It's why they've seethed at Kiara, Irys and FWMC: they broke the veil and actually encouraged unicorns instead of maintaining some copeable neutrality.

*Shiori News*
Her mom made her go through waxing when she was 11, the person doing it sucked though so she had to go through it multiple times

>>68121728
God I wish I had a little sister I could kiss romantically after months of awkward and cute build-up. Picrel.

>>68121728
Hi Fuwawa

>>68122104
It really, really doesn't help that the jp fans here just screamed cope any time anyone seriously tried to discuss why numbers differed the way that they do. Timezones are cope, context is cope, churn is cope, vods are cope, subs are cope, it goes on and on.

>>68117400
>41,956: Subaru (Hololive)
>41,399: Miko (Hololive)
which is it, dwarf
need it for the bronze

>>68122116
Reminder
https://youtube.com/@amanerooms?si=uK6dwfzeEhEAO7Ht

>>68122243
>Timezones are cope, context is cope, churn is cope, vods are cope, subs are cope,
Calling these cope are pretty fucking insane cause it is all factors that affect numbers

Is Gura the Jiren of EN?

>>68122035
>to this day nobody trusts Brave
Mate, more than three quarters of the current vtuber audience landed in this hobby WAY WAY WAY WAY after the events that landed Brave that reputation, as it happened in June 2019

>>68122116

>>68122191
How bizarre that when Gura normally got sub 20k numbers you fags acted like each sub 20k stream was new and a sign of a recline.
But now it's the opposite? You treated 20k as her baseline for her entire career so you could shit on her when she didn't meet it, but now can't believe it really is when she gets it. Just extremely curious.

>threads are more shit than usual
>Do archive reps
>Niji main ch. won today's tally
That explains a lot of things

>>68122322
Gura is the Frieza of holoEN:
>mutant freak power and talent
>no hard work
>short

I remember how there was an assblasted anon whining about how people won't add Gura into First Army. I wonder if he knew it is a Japanese shitpost and strictly a Japanese shitpost
Is there even anyone outside of 5ch and /vt/ acknowledging First Army being a thing?

>>68122385
Is she good at blowjobs too?

>>68122385
Black Gura when

>>68121728
haeh?

>>68121848
> are genuinely good no?
Stuff like the leak breaks the impression of buddy-buddyness behind the scenes, when the SINGLE frame of the discord that was leaked is full of anti-holo shit.
It puts the idea of "what else are they talking about in there?" in the minds of both niji fans and holo fans.
That event single handledly caused a rift between the two fanbases that will likely never be mended.

>>68122308
Where did you get the idea these people were sane?

>>68122385
Huh...this is actually really appropriate. Also they both have MEATY TAILS.

>>68122336
It's just ritualposting at this point. Same with "not even CCV+1k" posts.

https://twitter.com/K9_KURO/status/1753820523430371590

>>68122420
Nope, and anyone asking Gura to be a "first army" is dumb as fuck.
The reason why it works for the JP side is because there is some sort of parity, an ensemble of girls batting at more or less the same level.

Gura, on the EN side? She's the absolute goddess in a position unachievable for ANY english speaking streamer, not only vtuber
After the fall of Pokimane and Valkyrae there is not a single EN girl that can touch the size of the live audience by Gura and her personal box alone is bigger than the Twitch front page aided vtuber box.

>>68121677
This is why I canceled my Pomu membership. I like Pomu and watched her all the way up until graduation, but I'll never give Nijisanj another dime. They won't even admit when they make a mistake and own up to it. They just pretend it didn't happen half the time unless public pressure gets to be too much. Even doing the same shit with Selen.

What is gura true noombers unculled?

>>68122564
40k average, we know unculled numbers, people just love to make shit up

>>68122141
The most annoying cull desu. I remember Aug Sept Oct Nov numbers being mind-raping and numberot inducing. hololive was soaring and pulling insane giga buffed numbers. Post cull numbers have ruined me, I feel nothing. It's just not the same anymore. curse you Susan.

>>68122523
KeyDiva looks like she admits to sending it. Is she one of the crazy stalkers? She's not Rebecca at least.

>>68122469
also any EN girl's discord leaks just further proves that they are either dorks in private or simply business talks, which made a big contrast to Niji's

Forget First Army, we need our own EN tier list.

>>68122551
>After the fall of Pokimane and Valkyrae
Didn't some shitposter just posted about "HOLOLIVE IS OVER" because Pokimane going to move to Youtube soon? Female fleshstreamers haven't been competition for a while, last year Pekora literally competed with exactly one of them and won

>>68122564
exactly what we see on vrabi

>>68122564
Like 30k based on last 3 streams

>>68122217
Their cope about the girls talking to the homos behind the scenes was the greatest thing ever

>>68122385
Actually it's Freeza

>>68122029
I don't think the Secret GC stream had a single Discord Leak reference

>>68122551
I feel like if Gura read this she would have a panic attack.

>>68122709
>return buff + gigabuff game spam
come on, now

>>68122551
I remember multiple 5ch screenshot have poeple refer Gura a "shark king"?
But it's not far from the truth due to Gura's dominance on the EN side.

the lads over at HiRyS really love their Koikatsu huh

>>68122731
I hurt my side when my friend first telling me about Frieza's brother Cooler. At that moment I realize the true meaning of Frieza and started laughing
How the fuck did I miss that? Fucking FREEZER and COOLER

>>68122564

>>68122770
It's funny because it's not true. Mousey mogs her on the vtuber side and there are dozens of fleshstreamers that gigamog her.

>>68122217
With how good things feel now, I keep forgetting how bad those days were.

>>68122813
When PekoMari and Ina show up in Gura 3D showcase they called them "King of EN", "King of JP" and "The Rabbit" in that order (No Ina mention tho, sad)

>>68122687
Why? It's obvious SNO are the peak, followed by diamond dogs and Iname and IRyS

>>68122816
https://files.catbox.moe/swt3fy.mp4

>>68122692
>"HOLOLIVE IS OVER" because Pokimane going to move to Youtube soon
Mate, she's LITERALLY streaming RIGHT NOW
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cGm5TXsc4A
in front of an audience of
>2.5k people
She has half the audience of a fucking eight hours old Aki stream.

>>68122816
Nice

>>68122880
>dozens, dozens of them!
heh sometimes the bot gets alright jokes

>>68122730
You would think " All girls vtuber group" would be enough for them to get the hint

>>68122927
I will never forgive Susan choosing has-been fleshies over a growing, homegrown talent scene

>>68122927
>ISRAEL
*a look of smug satisfaction slowly creeps across my Caucasian face*

>>68122551
Who is Emiru. All her streams are 20k+ (on Twitch), she just doesn't stream that often so people forget how strong she is.

>>68122920
holy fuck imma coom

Queen of vtubers is live
https://www.twitch.tv/ironmouse

>>68122927
Worse than heavily overlapped Bae where we still scream GRIM. Let that sink in.

>>68122886
Fun fact: 5chan have a bunch of nickname for Pekora, they either call her The Rabbit, The King, or most of the time Pessan

I think I am sure know, Shiori is the schizo hobo tomboy little sister experience

>>68123038
I need to go tell her Nerissa is desperate for a collab asap

>>68122829
Early gura...SOVL
I'm glad she changed the least out of all of myth, she really was perfect all along

>>68123026
>Twitch numbers

>>68123038
Will she beat Gura's CCV tonight?

>>68123008
Hololive is a Japanese group, Westerner of course won't bend the knee to fucking Japan of all country

>>68123038
Is this a bot?

>>68122927
AAAIIIIIEEEEEEEEEE TWITCHBROS IT'S OGREEEEEEEE OUR NUMBERS ARE A SHAM WHO COULD'VE KNOWN

>>68123038
You do this every day but I legit wonder if posting the link /here/ has ever gotten her a single view
In fact I think you maybe the IM anti's strongest soldiers because nothing has made her more hated on /vt/ than your shit

>>68122927
Wait, what the fuck? Isn't she supposed to be one of the biggest English speaking streamers in the world? Did something happen to the flesh streamer market?

>>68122829
Clearly she needs to use #GAWRGURA again

>>68123026
>twitch numbers
Even then, never heard of your ho (unlike Pokimane and Valkyrae)
If you got no mindchair your CCV's botted nonsense, simple as

>>68122564
around 100k ccv average.

>>68123008
I just hate the shadowbanning. I don't care that they don't advertise or promote them.

>>68123008
I too remember the millionaire contracts susan gave away to some 2bit fleshstreamers from twitch and acted as if THAT was going to actually make youtube streaming big, and then they had less viewers than big jps, fucking pathetic is wha that whole situation was, especially all the while culling hololive viewers to shit

>>68122821
His dad King Cold didn't tip you off?
All the Dragonball names are pretty dumb

>>68123099
>I'm glad she changed the least out of all of myth
Ina ina ina...

>>68122927
>@GawrGura #PREACH!
holy has beens lmao

>>68123287
To be fair I watched DBZ when I was like 6, didn't really know a lot of English back then

>>68122927
Is this the evidence of twitch's magic numbers since embedmouse?

>>68122385
Pekora = Vegeta
Miko = Goku
Gura = Jiren
Mori = Toppo
Marine = Broly
Koyori = Granolah
Suisei = Cooler
Subaru = Frieza

>>68123144
never a doubt

>>68123287
Almost everything is a pun. People forget that Toriyama started off doing gag manga.

>>68122334
i hope you dont think youre refuting what i said, youre describing the tourists i mentioned. Anyone who knew Brave back then still wont forgive them for their bullshit

>>68123171
Western streamer have extremely big mindshare in proportion to their numbers

>>68123316
I swear I watch ina the second most out of all of hololive, it just has been a rough week alright? Didn't do that on purpose

Man the FWMC seethe is out of control, huh

>>68122927
jezas

sharkie's waiting room is barely moving. This is going to be grim.

>>68123234
She's the main girl in OTK. She used to date Dyrus and is now with Mizkif.

>>68123008
>I will never forgive Susan choosing has-been fleshies
I don't think she had a choice. The type of money that "influencers" make comes from a different source.
Vtubers (in general) and Hololive (in particular) operate in a "direct sales" model.
>cute girls do cute things
>audience rewards them with donations and merch purchases
>money flows directly from the audience to the girls and their company
There is no opportunity for Youtube to inject themselves in the middle of it other than their standard 30% cut of the donations (a share that is getting increasingly smaller because of the movement from donations to merch).

With "influencers" like Pokimane, that's different. Their may money out of shilling products and, of course, it is youtube "match making" them with the big advertisers.
Advertisers which will get increasingly more dependent on the platform, influencers that will get increasingly more dependent on the platform and Youtube becomes the kingmaker
>play ball, lots of opportunities
>don't play ball? get the boot
Same thing for Twitch, btw

>>68122927
Isn't this with drama buff? With her moving to kick after calling out xqc about him taking dirty money?

>>68123038
So, will you rope yourself when enna graduates next month?

>>68122551
>Because there is some sort of parity
NIGGER PEKORA AND MIKO WIN LIKE 60% OF THE GOLDS FOR THE YEAR
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT

>>68122927
This finally proves twitch numbers are a fucking sham and should be forever disregarded. I hope IMfag will finally leave

>>68122829
Man back then I was a subs numberfag only, I did not think how ridiculous it was to see a 60k game stream

>>68122927
The entirety of EN beats this. Fauna's waiting room beats this. Gura gets almost 12 times this

>>68123350
This post reek of someone who doesn't watch both

>>68120816
thats my wife

>>68123414
It's honestly insane how 20 seconds of silence made the subhumans that mad.

>>68123350
Can fauna be krillin?

>>68123171
Either something happened specifically to her, or she just needs to find her footing first on YouTube. Charlie still gets like current Fauna numbers (8-10k for react content, 13-16k+ depending on the game), and even Pyrocynical I saw go up to like 4-5k. The only big streamers that I see more often on YT to remember their numbers a bit, outside of select 3views I sometimes watch for more specific content.

>>68123463
Hey cmon now, sometime Marine as well as Subaru/Aqua/Suisei doing buff content can lap them too

>>68123463
Why are 35P this delusional?

>>68123171
>biggest on twitch with magic numbers
Now you understand why #chads /here/ don´t take seriously twitch

>>68123026
>Who is Emiru. All her streams are 20k+ (on Twitch),
You might be right but that at most puts her on pair with Gura, her average in 2023 was 16k
https://twitchtracker.com/emiru/statistics

>>68123435
Sub 5k sharkie tonight

>>68123350
Based and truthpilled

>>68123545(me)
I take it back, picolo because hes green

>>68123442
Yeah, vtubers don't really have much wider market appeal outside of Japan. There's probably a reality where vtubers are as big in the EN scene as they are in the JP scene and anime culture is more mainstream such that Youtube partners more heavily with Cover.

>>68122249
>41,956: Subaru (Hololive)
this one Z'ed, non-Z peak is 39,612 so Miko bronze

>>68123577
Not now Mikoschizo, he is right

>>68123372
>youre describing the tourists i mentioned.
Mate, 2019 was five years ago. Obviously anyone that knew Brave back then won't forgive them but the audience that came after that GREATLY outnumber the audience that existed back then and they're not "tourists": They're the current audience.

It would take gall to call a day 1 member of Pekora a "tourist" and gamebu events happened before that

>>68123545
Fauna isn't useless

>>68123589
Look at the last 6 months, I think that's when she became consistently 20k+.

>>68123509
kys Bob

>>68123026
Just be the walking tits accessory to the biggest streamers on the website and perma-leech every stream. No biggy.

>>68123610
One thing I hate about this thread is that some of you keep pushing for western mainstream appeal in EN but at the same time rejecting it. Like choose one dude

>>68123171
Funny you should say that because the flesh streamers are currently trending on Xitter. 13k+ posts of two male fleshies screaming at each other. It's probably because this happens so often that there's not much of a viewer base anymore.

>>68123463
>NIGGER PEKORA AND MIKO WIN LIKE 60% OF THE GOLDS FOR THE YEAR
Mate, this conversation ALWAYS devolves to the infamous
>No First Army, no Korone, no Koyori NIJICOEP tally

>>68123610
>Yeah, vtubers don't really have much wider market appeal outside of Japan.
It's not about "market appeal", but "fitness for the purpose".
It is the same reason labels prefer to take in seventeen rappers that were selling mixtapes the week before than a single talented guy that had a blooming indie career.
The former are "maleable"; they can become whatever product they want to package. The later, it is unlikely he would give up what he has to become what they want.
>with some exceptions. like Taylor Swift

>>68122927
Apparently she had a yab where she called her fanbase broke for thinking her cookies were overpriced

>>68123729
I don't care either way but I think people want Holo to succeed without changing its core focus on cute girls. The issue is that right now that's not really going to happen (so Holo shouldn't bother too much)

>>68123599
piccolo is orange

>>68123714
To be fair she's probably the best female LOL streamer. But, dating Dyrus is 100% how she became relevant. Also, she's a professional cosplayer.

>>68123549
And just looking at my live tab nie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yfi3IDaBWH8&ab_channel=WolfeyVGC
Pokemon is pretty big I guess, but outside of that literally who. And still 5k after 3 hours, even if it's some tournament buff
There is CCV, and then there is popularity/mindshare generated by media outlets telling you that X streamer is THE BIGGEST.

>>68123710
A 20k median of peaks is more or less a 16k average, the numbers won't change much.
Maybe you got catfished by that November outlier

>>68123710
Why are you even saying things without checking yourself? She's only ever averaged 20k monthly twice since January 2022. Otherwise she's on par with Gura at her weakest state.

>>68123846
There's a difference between the music industry and youtube scene though; youtube doesn't really exert much control (ostensibly) over people like Ludwig, it really is just about getting their viewers on Youtube away from Twitch. I think youtube only cares about 'malleability' in so far as the influencers they take on won't do wild shit that looks bad on the company as a whole.

Pekora palworld mod
https://youtube.com/shorts/KVDwTZgW9Go?feature=shared

I really hope we get Fauna today

>>68122927
>Pokimane?
Sir, it's Palmane now.

>>68123871

>>68123729
I think they are not the same thing. In my opnion i want people to acept vtubers despite it's weirdness instead of changing vtubers to appeal to the masses

>>68123926
>>68123914
I thought November 2023 was her new norm. Looking things up on mobile is annoying.

>Having a discussion about First army when 80% of the streams are botted

>>68122687
Too many members haven't streamed consistantly since November to get an accurate tier list at the moment. Not sure on boundaries, maybe too many in tier 1 but currently something like:
Tier 0: Gura
Tier 1: Fauna, Mumei, Biboo, FWMC, Ina
Ina could probably drop a tier if she comes back and play nothing but Zelda and pikmin for a month or something.
Tier 2 is kind of hard though. Ame, IRyS. Ame has been pretty strong lately. Not to sure where to draw the line between tier 2 and 3 though

>>68123935
>youtube doesn't really exert much control (ostensibly) over people like Ludwig
Now. They used to do, back in the days they still had that "Youtube Rewind".
Don't you remember them pushing Pewdiepie to the sidelines while promoting all sorts of "male makeup artists" as the face of the platform?

>>68123944
JESAS
I wonder if Pekora is aware how sexy her model is. Any other girl with her model would already show boobs and ass all the time

>>68123949
>Fembud prime
>streaming over Gura after her much awaited return
doubtful, shes going to be watching gura like the rest of us
>Verification not required.

>>68124061
>Now
Well that's the 'when' that we're talking about.

>>68123107
>still using this template meme when 95% of en gold are botted

>>68123684
>only comes to watch tournaments and leech streams
>normal chat speeds of a 3view
>they are not tourists i swear

>Japanese talent agencies have been telling people to not play Palworld because TPC might blackmail them / revoke permission access
>meanwhile Hololive doesn't give a fuck because they know TPC will cuck out and give them temp perms anyhow like they always do

>>68124109
kys botniggertranny

>>68124109
>95%
At least get the number right

* FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *
>02/03 TALLY:
27,322: FuwaMoco (Hololive) | Mococo's Birthday
12,761: Fauna (Hololive) | Lethal Company w/ Baelz, Bijou, Kaela
8,743: FuwaMoco (Hololive) | FuwaMoco Morning
8,038: Bijou (Hololive) | Lethal Company w/ Baelz, Fauna, Kaela
7,633: Shiori (Hololive) | Palworld
6,231: Kronii (Hololive) | Outer Wilds
5,633: Luca (Nijisanji) | Giving Love Advice w/ Shu


>EN GOLDS FOR FEBRUARY 2024
1) Bijou (Hololive) - 23,962 - Palworld
2) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 21,788 - Fuwawa's Birthday
3) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 27,322 - Mococo's Birthday

>PER COMPANY
3x: Hololive

>PER STREAMER
2x: FuwaMoco
1x: Bijou

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
14p: FuwaMoco
6p: Bijou
4p: Fauna
3p: Kyo

>>68124016
No. Her entire streaming career, she averaged 20k monthly twice. Gura obviously has achieved way more 20k+ months than two. And if things continue the way they are, Gura will hit 20k+ for the foreseeable future.

>>68123944
Pekora won the palworld mindchair

>Just think of me as your typical church girl
I AM SO READY TO TAKE SHIORI’S VIRGINITY

>>68124081
she could watch and play with Gura at the same time

>>68124103
When they were making a play for this type of content creators (when they were poaching Twitch stars) the reality was what I described.
You are correct for the "here and now", but it's not what happened on "Susan reign"

>>68124109
When is your next paycheck Botbro? Botting Nerissa to 50k and Biboo to 36k must have cost your a fortune

>>68124015
If they keep the course, it'll happen eventually.
I mean, Anime did it! Easily, too!

>>68124081
We are living in bizarro world where the oshi has to beg to meet her biggest fan.

>Discussing Shiori here
Why?

>>68124116
More like Hololive doesn't give a fuck because TPC already blackmails them and cucks their perms UNLESS they need them to shill a game
Why do you think they can't play pokemon wherever? Palworld dev seems to actually live in 2024 what with even letting holos mod the fucking thing and stream it in their member streams. It's the real "yeah idgaf go promote my game however you like thanks for the massive free advertisement" attitude

Queen of EN and mindshare her highness IronMouse takes the month of January without even trying.
https://twitter.com/StreamsCharts/status/1753508590240014662

>>68124112
Anon, I'm not talking about VSPO's audience, for fuck sake, they're under Brave for less than two years.
I am talking about how the general vtuber audience doesn't even know what the fuck is a "gamebu" and have no axe to grind with Brave Group

>>68124076
>I wonder if Pekora is aware how sexy her model is
Anon, she’s literally a bunny girl in a bunny girl outfit, literally the most famous “sexy outfit” in human history
She knows

>>68124266
shiori cute

What was the final SC numbers for fuwamoco birthday?

>>68123171
Pokimane numbers had already fallen off over the last year or so, she also had a pretty big yab fairly recently.
Valkyrae's also dropped a bit after she stopped streaming as much, but she's still around current Fauna level roughly from what I've seen

>>68124266
All holo's are on topic.

>>68124109
>en
did you mean jp? biboo had more viewer engagement than miko... let that sink in.

>Biboo won't stream over the homos
I thought she was the chosen one...

>>68124227
Biboo two days ago was ugly

fuck off twitchcucks

>>68124266
DEMI SEETHE

>>68124235
Not everyone can be as brazen as Nerissa.

Goddamn gura stop playing buff shit, go back to some Apotheon tier kusoge
Really want to see what your new debuff numbers are

>>68124278
>196 hours
kek, seems legit, 28 days straight streaming

>tfw my muscles are too big to let me comfortably wear Ayame's tracksuit jacket

>>68123589
>hasan , asmongold , etc orbiter from her very titles; pic rel
constant first page embeds boost

>>68124232
Kek you just make me realize what if people were as excited for Hololive arc like they did manga/anime
>MYTH BEAT THE ENDER DRAGON!!!?
>Everyone making essay video like “Pekora vs Everyone: Hololive Rust Season 2 summary and the meaning behind the letter”
>Everyone discuss the lore reason why Sana have to be written out of Hololive

>>68124291
we know JP are botted to premium quality we can't even detect. These bitches have a higher ccv than kai cenat who had nicki Minaj on stream.

>>68122816
Why are the physics so bad?

>>68124278
roru. rumao even.

>>68124400
Absolutely disgusting. Is there even a single girl on Twitch whose content is not
>I met this super famous guy and he acknowledged me

Tite Kubo for JP7 papa.

>>68124266
All holos are ontopic here, and global is doing Kiara vs Bae, IRyS, and the entirety of Advent right now, so it's not really a good place to discuss anything right now.

>>68124343
she streamed for 19 days in January

psst
compliment me

>>68124446
Bro IShowSpeed content is literally that
The man somehow get to meet Ronaldo and stream it

>>68124266
Members stream. Also why not? Shiori cute.

AIEEEEEEEEE MY ADS

>>68123350
>Pekora = Vegeta
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qHqoT7T6_0

>>68124468
shitshark could never

>>68124480
Chu~

>>68124489

Why doesn't Cover reinstate the overlap ban? Just for these two nights? It's most EN so JP fans won't get mad.

>>68124400
kek so a literal male accessory, as usual

>>68124489
*pero pero pero pero*

>Mousey 5.2k
>shark 1.2k

>>68124489
Holy SEX

>>68124489
BREEEEEDDDD

>>68124468
>she streamed for 19 days in January
That's not what the chart says and, if you are taking twitchtracker at face value, they only count the day the stream started

>>68124467
>and global is doing Kiara vs Bae, IRyS, and the entirety of Advent right now
Like 80% of the time somebody mentions Global here it's because global is doing Kiara vs another EN, is that really all they do or what?

CHIP-

>>68124278
>gets turbo boosted by Connor, constantly advertised and hailed as some legendary vtuber by chuuba orbiters, and nepo-ed into "awards" every year
>can't 5view
>gets destroyed by lemon shark that retweets two fan art

>>68124116
Pokemon perms are so needlessly restrictive, is it really even that big a deal if they lose them? Cozying up to a company that is potentially involved in their crappy survival game seems like the much smarter decision.

>>68124520
>It’s Year of the Dragon so I gift you Dragon Ball LINE stamp
Pekora think like a 12 years old boy, I love it

>>68124588
You have to understand, they have a hell-level schizo that's been there for four years and all they care about is trying to get people to hate Kiara.

>>68124588
They sometimes watch streams

Why are there retards here desperately trying to get me to care about watch hours?

>>68124651
>can't 5view
lies

>>68124343
you should consider subtracting the sleep hours

>>68124711
It's the gold standard for measuring streamer performance for a reason.

>Fauna only streamed 4 times this week again
I thought she wasn't a puddle anymore?

>>68124588
Something flipped in Kiara schizos and Kiara vs other ENs particularly Bae most of the time has pretty much been a daily thing in global since January 2023, apparently it's to try and get all Kiara discussion banned by being as annoying as possible about Kiara, that or to just get people to filter out Kiara discussion.

>>68124711
>retardS
It's one dude and his smart fridge

How the fuck are people already getting this merch?

>>68124583
>Taiwanese girl doing 582 hours of streaming in a month
So what the fuck is that about

>>68124583
Man this new nachodaughter really redeemed the bad batch stream she was on since Gura, huh?
And talk about being THE vtuber mama for Nacho when you got Gura, yourself AND this chick's designs floating around vtuber space. Who can even match her with this many successful vtuber designs?

>>68124725
>gold standard for measuring streamer performance
Says fucking who?

>>68124480
Shiori moans good.

>>68124711
its so twitch "vtubers"can compete. They do sleeping streams and rack up those numbers. We all know its a meme metric

>>68124711
Because everyone outside of here care about it
Twitchtracker literally have it as one of the main stat in a streamer profile. Even the Vstats guy care about it enough to protest under StreamsCharts comment section every time, kind of funny really. Fucking hell Nijisanji have it in their financial report

>>68124583
I checked again it's actually 20 days

>>68124677
I know this is bait and there's an eternal Palworld Vs Pokemon war going on, but you do know that Pokemon is a massive nostalgic franchise that a lot of Holos genuinely love and want to stream, right?

>>68124813
Yeah, that makes more sense. 28 days was too much but as >>68124761 mentioned, the taiwanese chick got closer with 24+ days of streaming hours

>>68124791
It was invented by Twitch streamer specifically to hardcounter “streamer” who get high average by abusing rarity buff and events. The number by nature value consistency and retention

>>68124841
>that a lot of Holos genuinely love and want to stream, right?
Ball in on TPC court. The girls can play it on their own time, TPC can't have it played in front of the 40k, 50k, 60k audience the girls bring without giving perms
It's their loss, really

>>68124774
she got stupid daughters like the one who dropped her model and went to phase.

>>68124748
Retard

>>68124731
Retard

>>68124917
That girl has been around since the fucking 2020 years, she's stupid but at least she's stupid enough to have shilled herself in global back in Mythmania times, and thus got herself set for life

>>68124917
Wait hahah
you're joking right? kana is now infesting phase? bahahaha

>>68124955
Hey, that's "Saya" to you

Bros the AppleVision Pro is fucking scary. I wonder if projecting chuuba into the real world is possible with it

>>68124761
>the 697h on that list
kek

>>68124711
outside of twitch and other sleeptubers, its a more detailed version of a single view count, so you can measure more 'valuable' views accurately. its peak ccv that is a meme outside of horseracingchads here

>>68124806
So, by "everybody outside of here" you mean twitchfags?

>>68122920
>shorthairRyS
ruined

>>68124899
Yeah, but this whole tribal war is pretty silly. Siding yourself with a FoTM game that's only been in the market for a few weeks and acting like playing it is a complete betrayal to TPC who will never give Cover Pokemon perms ever again just sounds extremely shortsighted and dumb.

>>68125003
That's the least it can do. You know the "running triangles" storming the stage to see upskirts of AZKi?
>you now can have that, but in AR

>>68124841
Sure, but again TPC puts needless restrictions on Hololive's perms for those games. If you were in charge of Hololive and you had two paths to take, one where you ignore a current fotm game developed by people who could help you develop your game to ensure those restrictive Pokemon perms stay in tact, or you could cozy up to the devs who made this new game with a 1% chance TPC takes away your perms what will you choose? Obviouly you chose the second. If TPC gets asshurt and revokes perms I'm sure the girls will be bummed, but they can still play the new Pokemon games on their own time. It's not like they would be losing some game the talents play year round like Minecraft, Pokemon only matters for a single month every year or two. The restrictive perms TPC set are what make potential loss of them almost meaningless, especially when the other option could be hugely beneficial to Cover.

>>68124841
TPC has given Pokemon perms for them like 3 months in the past 4 years. It's not like they're actively spurning Pokemon in favor of Palworld, they're playing what they want to play that they have permissions for.

>>68124899
I mean, poketards will buy any slop TPC drops on them even if nobody streams it. I'm not sure TPC gives a fuck about Hololive having perms.

>>68125041
so she farted on her voicepack too?

>>68125003
Isn't it just an AR headset? Like, Google Glass again?
I don't think it's that wild.

>>68124991
Never heard of her even from the phase shillers. Are her numbers better than Kana?

How many for King today? I expect at least 40k

>>68125085
So the Holos should ignore Palworld and also not play Pokémon because TPC are a bunch of fucking niggers who refuse to give perms to Hololive?

>>68125085
There are no sides, it's a fucking computer game.
Literally everyone but Nijisanji is playing it. Cover gets pokemon perms through NND and not the company directly to begin with.

>>68125143
I don't know what Kana's numbers were back in the day, but she's a reliable middle 3view on Youtube from what I understand.
And the reason you've never heard of her is because the only people that talk about Phase here (barring the usual pippafag shitposters) are the few that just like singular girls from there. So there not being a Sayafag here is why you don't hear about her.

>>68125102
>It's not like they're actively spurning Pokemon in favor of Palworld
With the way the thread has been treating it, you'd think that Cover is actively laughing at TPC's faces and citing themselves as the premier Palworld company

>>68124776
>Pekora and Koyori taking a screenshot next to it
that's all what counts.

>>68124880
tldr cope from twitch shitters

>>68125109
God that would be so hot. Someone confirm so I can buy it

My wife

>>68125085
>Siding yourself
Anon, nobody is fucking "siding", they're doing the same thing they do every single one of their days
>playing vidya

>>68125151
King of utter mediocrity, you mean. He isn't even competitive in the raspberry tally anymore. Armpits debuts struggled to get 20k and the two recent outfits failed to get 10k, expecting this nigger to get more than 20k is delusional unless the beggars finally show up for one stream only to fuck off after.

>>68125025
these two must be twitchfags
https://twitter.com/usadapekora/status/1742673341134315743
https://twitter.com/hakuikoyori/status/1742726044241854503

>>68125174
Holos playing the latest FoTM game and playing Pokemon are completely unrelated, you know that, right? TPC isn't going to refuse giving them streaming perms when the next game comes out just because they played Palworld. The fact that they haven't even done anything about the Palworld situation shows that they really don't care about having a potential new competitor

>>68125214
>With the way the thread
Anon, this thread is 90 IPs a pop, 800 posts per four hours or so
It's irrelevant for whatever the fuck you are saying

Guys, do you think Enna is socially awkward?

Shiorin whispered into my ear, lagged and then left
I DON'T KNOW IF SHE KISSED ME OR NOT BECAUSE THE STREAM LAGGED
I miss her...

Confirmed guests so far are Kobo, Anya and Risu

>>68125085
You know TPC never gave them perms to begin with right
Hololive only got to play Pokemon because of a deal with NND, and it was never even permanent perms but 1-2 months

>>68125013
>so you can measure more 'valuable' views accurately
How? Unless you have internal data directly from the company on exactly how many people watched how many hours, it's just a made up meme number.

>>68125290
Have you read the shit people have been saying /here/? Everyone has definitely picked a side and are hollering about how the Holos have also picked to side with Palworld, constantly saying how it's a much better game than stuff like Legends Arceus and how they no longer need Pokemon perms

>>68125326
pokefags are just waiting for the hammer to drop and for TPC to sound the horns for war. They thinks TPC will go scorched earth and punish those that stood against them.

>>68125131
It does seem more compact and portable
AR headset was pretty limited due to the fact you need a set up to run it, which limit the range
But this one seem like you can just wear it anywhere

>>68125382
Call us when its someone relevant

>>68125382
Who?

>>68125410
Anon, you know what else people say /here/?
>if you sell out a concert you end up paying "overselling fees" and losing money
Stop paying attention to whatever retardation you listen.
The Holo girl are playing a game, like they played seven hundred others. No more, no less.
If TPC wants them to play their game too all they need is to give them permission, no need to mope about it

https://twitter.com/ceresfauna/status/1753871389306826800
https://twitter.com/ceresfauna/status/1753871389306826800
https://twitter.com/ceresfauna/status/1753871389306826800

>>68125426
Some EN will call, just not confirmed who yet.