/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>68091783
Tiddies

Higher demand.

>>68091783
Booba tax

>>68091783
if you look at the individual items you can see why, silly.

>>68091783
To help prepare for the Fuwawa findom arc

Are ruffians really going to double dip the merch just because there are 2 of them? Paypig galore I guess

>>68092263
1500 limited stock sold out in a minute.

>>68092562
>1500
Why is the limited merch always so low quantity? Its not like they are actually signing the merch its foil-stamped lol.

Nijinigger deflection thread

>>68091783
Fuwawa findom wasn't a joke...

>>68092658
The limited is literal handsigned, the unlimited is foil stamped

>>68092263
Yes, I actually got both limited editions. The girls deserve every cent they get

>>68092995
>200$ for merch
lol

>>68092658
Are you just pretending to be retarded? Literally read the product page.

>>68092961
Imagine believing this, they only say that to incentivize people to buyout the limited stock even though its not handwritten

>>68093066
>being poor enough that $200 is a lot of money
lol

>>68093066
It‘s called not being poor

>>68093066
And?

>>68093128
Fucking lol, I can literally see the ink on towa's signature right next to me but go off I guess

>>68093128
I own over 50 handsigned postcards. You literally just have to look at the damn thing. Hell, I've watched my actual oshi sign cards on stream several times now. I'm sorry you're too poor to afford them, but that doesn't excuse you for being retarded.

>>68093136
More like I understand the value of money and won't throw away even 5$ to pay for a membership

>>68093205
Proof?
Also lmao, thinking that it wasn't her manager that signed it

>>68093220
>More like I understand the value of money
>Doesn't understand that money is made to be spent
Economic brainlet right here

>>68093286
Holy cope

>>68093220
The value of money is buying able to spend it on things you want
You're just poor

>>68093302
Money is meant to be spent on things that people individually value, yes anon that's right. I just don't put any value on some cheap Chinese knockoff shit trash merch that isn't even handsigned by my oshis

>>68092658
They actually do, retard. Several of the girls have complained about how doing them a large chunk at a time hurts their wrists. There's also been several times where managers make them redo some because it didn't match the chuuba's signature. Also if it was foil stamped you wouldn't have had the Gura Gura incident.

>>68093128
If FuwaMoco say it, I believe them. I'll trust their word over a random schizo anon every single time.

>>68093460
>some cheap Chinese knockoff shit trash merch
That's everything produced in the world now
>that isn't even handsigned by my oshis
It literally is, and always has been. You convincing yourself otherwise is just you coping because you're poor.

>>68093473
Oh no the poor multimillionaire girls have to "sign" 1k cards, the agony!

>>68093580
I have literally never heard someone cope this hard over signed cards before. I'm sorry you were too slow to get one. Better luck next time anon.

>>68093509
Fuwamoco can't even be trusted to properly respect their own coworkers when advertising a company-wide event lol

>>68093621
You think I give a shit about some "signed" cards from the incest baiting weeb twins lmao

>>68092995
Grifters deserve nothing

>>68093673
Clearly you do, since you continue to cope and reply.

>>68093713
ITS NOT FAIR I JUST WANTED 1 CARD AND I COULDN'T GET EITHER FUWAWA'S OR MOCOCO'S

>>68093286
Go fuck yourself

>>68093754
>can't get Fuwamoco's signatures
>forced to get Pero's isntead

>>68093627
>coworkers
They respected all of their coworkers though? The only ones they didnt respect were the homos, but they arent their coworkers.
FuwaMoco are loyal to their fans, its that simple

>>68093754
I got them both. Sucks to suck.

>>68093673
using weeb as an insult lmao

>>68093786
>Simping for a homo collaber
lmao

>>68093697
Good thing FuwaMoco arent grifters. They deserve everything they get and more.

>>68093842
>a man collabing with men
>somehow an issue
Do you have brain problems, anon?

>>68093786
Kenzoku are the fucking strongest

>>68093786
Yo whats the one next to it look like

>>68093878
Its a problem because she tries to play both sides, when you simply can't do that in this industry

>>68093867
Gonna laugh when you nerds get rushia'd.

>>68094032
any day now, sister...

>>68094032
They'd probably jerk off to the prospect of the twins going down the Rushia menhera path, only types of people who could possibly support such fake ESL cringe

>>68094022
Of course you can. The only people who believe that are autistic unicucks. Just don't pander to unicucks, simple as.

>>68093627
Is this the new homobeggar spam post? Every fat brown weirdo on youtube is posting this exact fucking comment lmao

>>68093971
It's this one https://shop.hololivepro.com/products/tokoyamitowa_an3rd

>>68094078
>>68094105
whats with this absolute seethe kek
what is it about these dumb dogs that causes sisters to seethe this hard?

>>68093786
Good paypiggie

>>68093786
twap...

>>68094169
>no bibi hat
Not a true kenzoku

Last time I try getting anything limited on my phone. Got some checkout queue that never happens on my desktop and missed out because of it. I got Fuwawa's but I wanted the set....

>>68094231
My one regret was not having enough money for that merch drop, I have literally everything else since then

>>68094188
>what is it about these dumb dogs that causes sisters to seethe this hard?
>replies to a post about Towa
You're not very smart, are you anon.

>>68094169
I salute your dedication fellow kenzoku 07

>>68094279
you were seething about "unicucks" in a FuwaMoco thread, so my post applies.

>>68094270
>Simp going off about not being a poorfag earlier
>Literally outs himself as a poorfag later in the thread
lmao, Towa simps be braindead I guess

>>68094324
No, you simply cannot read.

>>68094338
Just kill yourself

>>68094384
Seething that you're just a poorfag yourself and have no retort after getting called out I guess, maybe save up another year salary from ID and you might be able to afford the next merch drop

>>68094345
Keep deflecting, sister

>>68094449
Deflecting from what? I'm right.

>>68091783
Merch is usually a rip of, so why not double tip on the twins. It makes sense.

>>68094105
>just don't pander to the best customers
This is your brain on homostars

>>68094859
>>the best customers
[citation needed]

>>68094859
Unicorns will literally drop their female oshi if she dares to do stuff with men, doesn't sound like its worth keeping up the fake reality and I can definitely see people like Mumei or even Fauna trying to branch out soon

>>68093786
Tower…

>>68094934
The citation is literally their numbers, unicorn friendly Holos have the best income.

>>68095124
Even if that was true (again, citation needed), you're all still completely insufferable. Nothing "best" about that quality.

>>68095185
Literally on you to go to the numbers thread bud, you can't have someone else handhold you your entire fucking life. Ok, well at least we actually watch streams and support our oshis financially lol. The other end of the spectrum can hardly even be bothered to watch clips

>>68094934
>[citation needed]
Fuwamoco

>>68094949
>Unicorns will literally drop their female oshi if she dares to do stuff with men
Yes, that's why most members of Hololive don't do anything with men. And unicorns reward them for it with money and loyalty. It's a very good system.
>I can definitely see people like Mumei or even Fauna trying to branch out soon
That's because you're a cuckold making up cuckold fantasies.

>>68095286
>The other end of the spectrum can hardly even be bothered to watch clips
Since I apparently need to draw it with crayons for you to understand. Neither you cucks nor the homobeggars are the "best" customers. Nor are you even the bulk of their money. Google a bell curve, now imagine one for the autism spectrum. Both of you are on either ends of that curve, whereas the majority of fans (who simply do not care about your bullshit on either side) are in the middle. These are the fans who buy merch, are members, maybe send the occasional superchat, and do not shit up the fanbase with their autism. Unlike both you cucks and the homobeggars.

>>68095499
Imagine actually, unironically, thinking that unicorns are some small minority who literally contribute nothing lmao. If you wern't so lazy and braindead and could actually take it upon yourself to spend 1 minute looking at the numbers, you would see that your schizo narrative is retarded and false. Guess you need the crayons apparently

>>68095306
>You're a cuck
Its more like i'm realistic, considering that they obviously put up a front for their gachikoi and will reach a breaking point likely this year where they just btfo their simps and start doing stuff with men

>>68091783
theory a) Fuwawa's goods cost more to produce
theory b) It's to incentivize people who already spring for Fuwawa's and were on the fence to double dip. i.e if Mococos bday was first the roles would be reversed
theory c) They are experimenting with price points in general

>>68091783
if both of them have figma, fuwawa will still heavier than mococo

>>68095775
They should've just had their birthday at the same time, having it separate just means that only the super dedicated fans will splurge for both of them while most everyone else will just buy Fuwawa's cause she was first and apparently is more liked due to being the center

>>68095499
Let me break it down for you, retardchama. Unicorns and gachis are emotionally invested in their oshis. This emotional investment causes them to spend large amounts of money on said oshis. Casual fans don't have this level of emotional investment, they're just here to watch silly anime girls make with the funny, and while they might send a small SC every one and awhile they aren't invested enough to drop big akasupas and spend hundreds of dollarydoos on merch. Then you have homobeggars, who feel no emotional investment towards anyone and only want intergender collabs to happen for ideological and/or sexual fetish reasons. They don't watch streams and they don't spend money. So objectively speaking, unicorns and gachis are the best customers, casual fans are decent customers, and homobeggars aren't customers at all.

>>68091783
>Fuwawa's birthday merch more expensive than Mococo's
Wrong perspective, anon. Fuwawa is mocking Mococo by making her "cheap". ABUSE HAS TO STOP

>>68095634
I was trying to do you a solid by not completely destroying your argument in one single post, because I already know the numbers, and they're on my side, and always will be. But, since you're such a gigantic masochist, I guess I'll give you what you want.

We'll use the top 11, since FMWC are an outlier with their birthday having massively buffed their numbers (which, will still only help prove my point in a bit here). Of the top 11 earners in the last month, the only four (4) are "unicorn friendly" —who have not collabed with males or are without drama from you cucks— common sense dictates that no audience will ever be comprised of 100% unicucks, so even being generous and saying they make up 60% of some of the major audiences, when only 36% (rounded down) of the top earners are "unicorn friendly" you're already completely out numbered from the get-go, then you consider that normal, non-brain-broken viewers exist and make up a large portion of the community those numbers get added to the pool for the "non-unicorn friendly" members, you unicucks are completely mogged in every statistic.
Total Unicuck Death.

>>68095499
Let me break it down for you, retardchama. Unicorns and gachis are emotionally invested in their oshis. This emotional investment causes them to spend large amounts of money on said oshis. Casual fans don't have this level of emotional investment, they're just here to watch silly anime girls make with the funny, and while they might send a small SC every once and awhile they aren't invested enough to drop big akasupas and spend hundreds of dollarydoos on merch. Then you have homobeggars, who feel no emotional investment towards anyone and only want intergender collabs to happen for ideological and/or sexual fetish reasons. They don't watch streams and they don't spend money. So objectively speaking, unicorns and gachis are the best customers, casual fans are decent customers, and homobeggars aren't customers at all.

>>68093128
Dumb stupid retard faggot seething sister.

>>68092263
There's actually two of them which means they deserve twice as much of my money.

>>68094442
nta but holy shit you really should just end it. Such spite can't lead to anything better in your life.

>>68096353
>>68096449
>So objectively speaking, unicorns and gachis are the best customers, casual fans are decent customers, and homobeggars aren't customers at all.
Wrong. Unicucks will never get to be considered the "best", unlike gachis. You faggots will actively attack the talent when they no longer pander to your mental illness. Gachis, on the other hand, do not have this issue. All of the loyalty, none of the backlash. THESE are the people who you could most correctly apply the "cuck" label you unicucks love to throw around so much, and they give just as much (if not more) than your most idealized unicuck ever could.

>>68096414
Bro posting this literally proves my argument lmao, imagine posting this showing that unicorns are the reason why most Holos are in the top 10 and thinking its for any other reason. Fucking moron

>>68096592
Nah, unicorns are the best customers. That's why Holo EN panders to us now and why Advent is literally built for unicorns. There's nothing you can do but seethe about it I'm afraid.

>>68096797
>36%
>most
I know you can't read, but you're also this shit at math? Damn anon, you really don't have a lot going for you do you.

>>68096531
Dude literally exposes himself for being a poorfag and its me that should get the rope apparently lmao

>>68096592
Gachis and unicorns are literally interchangeable within this context, they are the ones who support the members the most compared to the "normies" who only send 1 superchat or watch clips or whatever. Really don't know what you're trying to prove other than being a fag

>>68096844
>And Other Delusions I Tell Myself While Crying Myself to Sleep
Being this brain broken must be tough

>>68092658
Some girls actually sign
Miko did an unlimited signing once and promised to never do it again lol

>>68096850
>He still thinks he's somehow right
kek
Ok bud, who on that list doesn't pander to unicorns then? Cause its basically just Lap/Ririka, which isn't even a fair point for this list because Lap just had an outfit reveal. So taking the normal top members like Pekora/Marine/Okayu/Chloe/Koyori/Watame/Aqua they are literally some of the biggest panderers to unicorns/gachikoi.

>>68096959
So what's the truth then o great anon? Who makes up the supposed "backbone" of supporting Hololive if not the terrible unicucks

>>68096935
>Gachis and unicorns are literally interchangeable within this context
No, they are not, and I'll explain why.
>Really don't know what you're trying to prove other than being a fag
Yeah no shit you don't, because you don't know how to read and a numberfag like you only has money on his mind. I know it's hard for you to follow a thread here on 4chan, so let's walk through the one you didn't understand.

>>just don't pander to the best customers
>This is your brain on homostars
The reply
>>>the best customers
>[citation needed]
Never once is money mentioned here, in fact you even have another anon (>>68094949) referencing things completely unrelated to money. The comment is about the "best" customers. This includes everything about said customer, not just their wallet. The autist who goes a restaurant and curses out the wait staff while leaving a $50 tip is far worse than the one who simply ate, said nothing, and left only $5. You unicucks are insufferable faggots because of how you treat the girls. Just because you larp as oil barons will never make you "the best." The gachikoi love the girls no matter what. They're completely unphased by males (even if internally one might be upset over it). Their oshi is perfect and can do no wrong, and unlike you unicucks, the gachi would never drop his oshi over something as petty as a male.

>>68095737
>t. Cuck coping he's not a cuck

>>68097276
Customer: a person or organization that buys goods or services from a store or business.
Maybe go back to 3rd grade English or something, retard-kun

>>68097498
Anon, its better if you just accept what's inevitably going to happen, instead of exposing your insecurities about the thought of your oshi collabing with men

>>68097584
>he thinks the word in contention is "customers" and not "best"
Holy fuck this is just sad. Also jesus christ, was that paragraph too long for you to read? I'm sorry you're illiterate anon. Maybe try again and come back after you've read it.

>>68097692
You're literally the one who brought up the term customers you fucking retard

>>68093128
It's literally the same price why do you think they will bother to do all that to sell the same amount of merch?

>>68097826
Because there's no difference between the "limited edition" and regular edition, they just have a set amount for the limited edition as a base cutoff for when they break profit and that way all the sales for the regular ones are pure profit

>>68096959
>all this projection
Your brain is broken, sister. It got broken into a million pieces when EN management got purged and replaced with Jap(unicorn win #1), the Tempus collabs abruptly stopped(unicorn win #2), Kiara explicitly stated she'll never collab with the Homos(unicorn win #3), Magni and Vesper quit(unicorn wins #4 and #5 respectively), and Advent debuted as a 100% unicorn/gachi friendly CGDCT gen and made it clear they'll never collab with the Homos either(unicorn win #6). I completely understand why you're totally mindbroken and spend all your time seething about unichads, I mean, you lost so badly it's crazy. Hey incidentally, remember how you homobeggars kept fantasizing that EN3 would be a MIXED gen? Holy shit you got blown the fuck out so hard ahahahaha

>>68094032
N I J I SEETHE

>>68097725
Once again proving you cannot read a thread, this is just pathetic. This >>68094859 is not me. Every reply to that retard has been to refute the use of the adjective (big word here, looks like you might need to google it) "best." So once again: no, I never brought up money that retard (who is probably (You)) did. I'm saying it's hilarious to even entertain the thought that "unicorns" could ever be the "best" viewer/customer/whatever.

>>68097676
Nta but Is this the same 2 more week cope? Sound similar like those shiori cope. Anon why do you hate hologirl exercising their freedom of choice, are you those unironic incel or mra?

>>68097929
So still avoiding answering the question of who supposedly is the backbone of Hololive if not the unicorns then? I see

>>68094442
Now type that without crying faggotchama

>>68097903
>Advent is unicorns friendly
>Shiori "respect my collab decisions"

>>68097968
Holy fuck, how many times do I have to tell you that you don't know how to read. Already answered for you in >>68096414. The answer was, and will always be, normal non-brain broken fans.

>>68097938
That's clearly a ruffian trying to set up some epic grudgepost collection to shit up the catalog with in a year or so. No one can be that clueless, specially not the kind of sisters who regularly sperg out about FWMC since they know their deal by now.

>>68097938
Freedom of choice to do what? Not collab with men? Like I said, that's inevitably going to change once they finally realize how lonely and boring it is to keep up this same appearance they have been. Bae has so much fun as a streamer because of it, and the rest of her gen is gonna finally experience the same happiness soon

>>68097898
So why are there talents who don't do limited merch and those who do more? Miko had like 6k sets does her merch have a higher cost of production? And those who don't do limited merch get their merch made for free?

>>68097276
Nta but if your "best" customer are poorfag who doesn't watch stream, sc, buy merch or demand any standard. That not your fan you retard, that just a casual tourist who doesn't expect anything from you.
Also muh unicorn boogeyman, lol ledditor spotted.

>>68097086
The unicuck once again proves he cannot read.
>or are without drama from you cucks
These are the rules you faggots chose, not me. Only Watame and Aqua in that list are completely innocuous and "unicorn friendly." Pekora is a massive streamer, and as such has extremely wide appeal. Her merch and channel sells because she's "Pekora" not because she panders to you fucks. Her numbers and money come from this size, no help from you. Marine is in a similar boat as Pekora (also buffed by her music), Okayu has collabed with males and you can never erase that history, and Koyori is currently in hot water with you autists over the Power Pros collab.

FWW is bigger than MCC

>>68098032
tumor weaks?

>>68098053
>Normies fans are the backbone
Ok lets see who's the top earner in Hololive
>Rushia
Ok lets see who some of the top earners and ccv members are today
>Literally all unicorn panderers
If normies were the backbone of Hololive, then members like Bae would be at the top but they aren't. I'm not sure why you believe this, but I can only reason that you are just a tourist fag who goes on Twitter or some shit and sees all the people there complain about shit and think they are the majority

>>68093460
Stop announcing to the world how poor you are

>>68098133
Totally agree sis the girls are DYING to collab with DA BOIZ our boiz are so handsome and charismatic how can a women not want to suck their dick!!!!
Da girls are being held hostage by the unicorns and cover management!!! They literally have an invisible gun pointed at their head!!

>>68098211
>Nta but if your "best" customer are poorfag who doesn't watch stream, sc, buy merch or demand any standard. That not your fan you retard, that just a casual tourist who doesn't expect anything from you.
Google the word "analogy", should help your autism understand the comment.

>>68098328
Oh so you do admit to using the term customer then? Gotcha, nice contradiction

>>68098032
Yeah, when Shiori said to respect her collab choices it turns out she wasn't referring to male collabs. I personally still don't like her but that's undeniably another unicorn win(#7).

>>68096592
>you have to chimpout if you're not a cuck
You must come from a low IQ society

>>68098133
You'd think if these guys were so great more people would actually watch them
Perhaps they're just really boring unlikeable both on stream and behind the scenes

>>68098133
Hey khyo or kris
Go fuck yourself

>>68098328
What even is your argument then bro?
>Yeah its not unicorns who are the best customers, but normal casual viewers
"But tourists don't watch streams or donate nearly as much as unicorns"
>Y-Y-YEAH BUT THAT'S NOT WAHT I IMPLIED

>>68098133
You sound like a rapist.

>>68098227
>Watame
Yesterday she said that she chose all male band for her sololive and she had a choice while talking that watamates probably wouldn't mind about such a thing. So in professional setting male collabs can still happen even for her.

>>68098251
>>Ok lets see who's the top earner in Hololive
>Rushia
This has literally never been true, it's always been Coco. It's STILL Coco, she's never been passed. She has also never been unicorn friendly.
>but I can only reason that you are just a tourist fag who goes on Twitter or some shit and sees all the people there complain about shit and think they are the majority
kek, anon we're on /vt/ the smallest and most inconsequential site in the vtuber fanbase. Next you'll tell me that the bullshit that gets cooked up here is also the "majority sentiment" among vtuber fans.

>>68098456
Even if she does collab with a male she prefers doormats so that pretty much negates almost all corpos, and whoever it is she'll be bullying live on stream.

>>68098279
Considering that most if not all the girls likely communicated at least somewhat frequently with the boys, yeah it seems like they are being heldback by their crazy fans for not having freedom to have fun on stream

>>68098416
I cannot continue a conversation with someone this stupid. Please, anon, I'm begging you to read a book. You could really use the IQ points.

>>68098456
So what did she mean by it then, cause she literally collabs the least out of any other Advent member lol. I'm like 90% sure she's just waiting for her 1 year to finish, then she'll go mask off and start collabing a ton with not just homos but indies

>>68091783
Because she's bigger, duh.

>>68098133
Somehow I don't think the unicorn-friendly girls find it "lonely and boring" to have stable, drama-free fanbases that shower them with money kek. They probably find it quite nice.

>>68098465
Its more like they're treated as 2nd class citizens by the company, their female coworkers, and Holo fans.

>>68092995
Based Ruffian.

>>68098545
A boy band with lead female singer is standard so it's allowed.

>>68098523
>best
>best
>best
>best
How many times do I need to point out the word for you and that other autist before you get it through your thick heads. There's a reason why many members don't pander to you unicucks, and it's because you aren't worth the fucking effort. If you truly where the BEST, as the original comment tried to imply, then everyone would pander to you fags and just take your money. Instead, they choose to target BETTER customers who aren't attached with all your emotional baggage and drama.

>>68098566
You have got to be trolling, I cannot accept that someone is this deluded about how Hololive works

>>68098605
So you're just gonna continue to feign ignorance because even you realize how retarded your "argument" is? Got it

>>68097903
>all this seething in defense of a branch that doesn't even matter
EOPs are hilarious

>>68098829
>feign ignorance
No, I'm choosing to not engage further with a retard who couldn't even understand the original argument in the first place. This is like me arguing with someone that apples are not oranges, and then you come in to try to tell me that apples are actually grapes. You're just a confused retard.

>>68098685
>Unicorn-friendly girls
>Stable and drama free fanbases
kek, that is funny. They are literally one stream or 1 bait superchat response away from throwing out the majority of their income and fans, that is anything but stable. The fact that the twins literally went from actively reacting to members in that Holopro stream, to being completely silent for the boys speaks volumes about how afraid and groomed they are

>>68098650
>So what did she mean by it then
It seems like she meant "I'm basically only going to collab with Advent". She never should've said anything about her collab choices desu. It was so vague that all it did was cast doubt on her.

>>68098685
>stable, drama-free fanbases
Unicorns are anything but kek. Thanks for the laugh anon, genuinely hilarious you think this is true.

>>68098708
So what? they're still getting promotions, merch, 3D and a bunch of shit, and STILL nobody cares.
The company is literally subsidizing their entire existence because of the CEO's obsession with making male idols work. That's the only reason the branch even exists in the first place.

>>68091783
Fuwawas shipping was cheaper in the end it was the same price for me

>>68098592
>Headcanon
Come on man just drop it you keep blaming the girls for your homofaggots incompetence, everything they have is given by Hololive keep this up and the only path that lies ahead of them is faliure.
Even if they have interacted before dosent mean they want to have a collab, and holo is where it is because they give what the fans want. You seriously think pekora wants to collab with 3 view shitter? Stars provide them with no value especially since hololive has always been a girl only group and it attracts the talent's who want to be in that environment.

>>68098754
Ok so by your logic, who is the most popular member of Hololive. Pekora? Does she pander to normies, uh no lmao. She has arguably the most dedicated fanbase in Hololive who literally watches every single stream she does every day. That is anything but normie, especially when they are continually membered for over 2-3 years at this point and actually buy merch/send superchats.

>>68098915
What's your original argument? That casual fans, not unicorns, are the backbone of Hololive? You have presented literally 0 evidence to back this up, meanwhile there is a plethora of evidence, that you yourself even brought up in a picture lmao, that shows how unicorns and gachis are instead the backbone of Hololive.

>>68098708
The Homos are treated like second class citizens because that's exactly what they are. Earlier today somebody posted a screenshot of Flayon's stream getting 448 viewers. Those fuckers aren't fit to be mentioned in the same breath as the girls.

>>68098960
>They are literally one stream or 1 bait superchat response away from throwing out the majority of their income and fans
Source: your schizophrenic headcanon

>>68098461
>>you have to chimpout if you're not a cuck
Retard, unicorns "chimping out" are exactly why you're hated. If you just dropped the girl in silence no one would give a fuck. Sure, you'd get people yelling at you for doing so, but then you'd at least be justified in your convictions, and you'd have more people on your side. Instead, the reality is that you fags attack the talents and fanbases whenever one so much as likes the tweet of a male.

>>68099309
If you can't glean context from the dozens of posts here already, I cannot help you. Learn how to read.

>>68099314
>Retard, unicorns "chimping out" are exactly why you're hated.
lol. Unicorns aren't hated though. The only people who don't like unicorns are seething homobeggars and they don't qualify as people so their hate doesn't even count. It's like being hated by an ant. Who cares?

>>68096414
That's cope, anon. Your definition of unicorn is almost completely a strawman. Most of your "unicorns" just dislike male collabs, yet close an eye when it comes to professional opportunities and special occurrences. Call them gachis, call them CGDCTfags, but most of the girls in that list try to stay away from casual male interactions as part of their professional guideline, and that's enough to meet their demands. Pekora kinda talked about it not too long ago >>59917995

>>68096876
yep

>>68099314
>Retard, unicorns "chimping out" are exactly why you're hated.
lol. Unicorns aren't hated though. The only ones who don't like unicorns are seething homobeggars and they don't qualify as people so their hate doesn't even count. It's like being hated by an ant. Who cares?

>>68091783
Why don't they just sell unlimited amount and make them as needed?

>>68099400
So admitting, again, that you actually can't back up your supposed argument? Got it

>>68099653
Limited merch is handsigned by the talent.
The second option is the normal merch which is made to order it comes with a printed sign.
Limited merch is made by talents to give back to their fans.

>>68093673
You sound underaged, I think you should kill yourself

>>68098835
real

>>68099713
>Limited merch is handsigned by the talent
Wrong, its marketed that way to boost sales

>>68099553
>idol culture is when she pretends to be my girlfriend
you must be over 18 to post here

>>68099226
>Does she pander to normies, uh no lmao
>She has arguably the most dedicated fanbase in Hololive who literally watches every single stream she does every day
Again, for Pekora's case, the point is that she has broad appeal. The people who buy her merch/watch all of her streams/send her superchats/etc. aren't just mentally unwell unicucks, they're normal, mentally well-adjusted holo fans. She's grown far past the need for unicorns to "prop up" her income.

>>68099447
>>68099573
Deleting posts is incredibly cringe. Learn how to proofread loser. You, or at least your mental retardation, is hated by hundreds of chuubas and their fanbases. To you, "homobeggars" encompasses the normal fans who couldn't care less about male collabs. They are not on your side when you losers pull the shit you do attacking chuubas and their fans.

>>68099451
>Your definition of unicorn is almost completely a strawman
No, it's not, because it's the exact definition that applies to /vt/. Whether /vt/ likes it or not, professional streamers are still pros. Yet the unicucks here go through mental gymnastics to dismiss them as sex pests/homos/insert whatever buzzword you want here. If it really was as simple as what you're saying (and I wish it was), then it wouldn't be as big of an issue as it is on this website.

>>68099838
so how much limited merch did you buy to prove that its not handsigned?

>>68091783
Mococo is for the blue collar guy while Fuwawa is for the rich oil barons.

>>68099713
Shiiiiet

>>68099662
You are actually so retarded it hurts my brain to read your posts.
>Unicorns are the BEST customers!!!!!!!!!!!!
>No, they aren't and here's why: you fags attack the girls and their fans when you don't get your way. Simple as.
You can't even glean context to realize this is what I'm saying. How are you able to even dress yourself in the morning when you're this stupid.

>>68093220
If you can afford an internet bill to log and shitpost on this shithole, then you can afford a 5 dollars membership. You're just a poor fag living with your mom who also obviously controls your finances.

>>68099920
Yeah as you can imagine it's a dubious task many of them have complained about their wrists getting fucked up after signing too much.
There are some insane talents like watame who do unlimited signed merch, it's done to show appreciation to people who support them, some talents don't do it because they don't want to sign thousands of plushies it depends on the talent.

>>68099899
You are making such a false equivalency here, it was literally unicorns and gachikoi who propped up Pekora to where she is today and why she is still among the most watched streamers. Having a mass normie audience did not allow her to reach that or maintain that level, like are you seriously just a homobeggar or tourist or some shit cause what you are trying to imply is not only false but just so fucking braindead I cannot even begin to fathom how you cultivated such retardedness

>>68100213
>it was literally unicorns and gachikoi who propped up Pekora to where she is today
Retard, she didn't just infinitely gain unicorns. She got big, and now her fan base is made up of an incredibly wide variety of people. How the fuck is that so hard for you to understand.

>>68099899
The fact that you're even using the term "unicucks" ousts you immediately as a normie yourself lol. Do you just have a complex or some shit, you think that people like you are the reason why Hololive is popular and has remained popular? Get the fuck over yourself, you are literally nothing in the fanbase if you even are a fan which is doubtful

>>68099905
Uh none, because they limited it to 1.5k so good luck without bots

>>68100306
>you think that people like you are the reason why Hololive is popular and has remained popular? Get the fuck over yourself, you are literally nothing in the fanbase if you even are a fan which is doubtful
Post memberships loser. I bet I spend more a month than you do in half a year. People like me ARE literally what props up hololive.

>>68100026
>you fags attack the girls and their fans when you don't get your way. Simple as.
So is this your proof? Just schizo delusions that you concocted up because you have literally nothing else to base your rambling on?

>>68093786
>That's a man using a handwriting changer.
>Hired signers.
>An AI can't sign anything.
>No proof but stable diffusion was definitely used somewhere.
>It was signed nefariously.

>>68099899
>Learn how to proofread
Nah.
>unicorns are hated by hundreds of chuubas and their fanbases.
More homobeggar headcanon. "It was revealed to me in a dream" isn't a valid source.

>>68100397
>schizo delusions
>Kronii exists
lol, lmao even

>>68100380
bro just stop you’re embarrassing yourself
merch is bought by soibeard-having individuals and women so they can take pictures of food with their ayame plushie in the background, not by unicorns

>>68100294
>Incredibly wide range of people
Oh so its not just normies but a whole bunch of people now? Can you at least stick to what you're trying to argue instead of moving the goalpost everytime someone calls you out on your shit?

>>68100476
Merch is literally where the majority of their revenue comes from anon. What the fuck is this cope kek.

>>68100537
meant for
>>68100471

>>68100294
Ok, but all those people are not normies; that is literally the main point here. Anyone who sticks with a streamer by watching their streams nearly every day and stays membered while donating is not a normie. Plus its the fact that the only people who are considered "normies" in vtuber fandoms are people who don't even watch streams but are clip watchers. You are just completely bastardizing already defined terms, trying to backup this weird ass argument you have

>>68099899
>seething wall of text
roru

>>68100476
>Pekora is a massive streamer, and as such has extremely wide appeal
>Again, for Pekora's case, the point is that she has broad appeal
>She got big, and now her fan base is made up of an incredibly wide variety of people
?????????????? Why can no one in this thread read????? Where the fuck do you ESLshitters come from.

I'm pretty sure unicorns are only hated by the same people who seethe at female streamers being popular at all.

>fuwaMoco make their audience happy
>their audience superchats and buys their merch
>this causes people to seethe and spam anti threads nonstop
Pretty funny ngl

>>68100380
So you're just trolling then? I refuse to believe that someone who unironically spends over 100$ per month in memberships actually thinks that normies are the backbone of Hololiv while also shitting on unicorns who actually do support the company and members

>>68100434
>Kronii exists
Yeah she does, and she also fucking lied on her membership stream about the situation too. But yeah she's definitely the victim when she herself instigated shit with her fans

Hololive is a unique culture, mashed up from aspects of various different industries which makes it unique in the whole entertainment world.
We like to use existing concepts to describe parts of the fanbase, but those description don't tranlate 1 to 1 when we talk about hololive.
I think unicorn's as is understandable by the EN side is a minority, does not mean the general audiance is dying to see the girls collab with males.
CGDCT and the members interaction with each others is Hololives foundation, as established by fantasy, you are dilusional to think otherwise.
The fans do not want this to change, nor do they like it if the talents are attacked for making decesions regarding collabing with males or anyone outside of Hololive in general, if they arnt interested in it they will just ignore it and not being mentally ill about it.
Yes this includes both unicorn's AND beggers, it's obvious now that beggers shit on girls who don't alnowledge stars, most unicorns and gatchis arnt going to drop their oshis if they happened to collab with a male, dosent mean they will stick around if their oshis were to do a complete 180 in the content they make.

>>68100701
Uh can you even read you're own argument retard? You're main argument is seemingly that casual fans are what made and keep Hololive at the top, Pekora's fans are not casual fans who come in for 1 hour and watch 1 stream a week or whatever like a "casual" fan would do. If someone watches a streamer every day for over 4 hours and also buys merch and spends money on them on top of it, they are not a casual fan at that point. Also if Pekora didin't pander to unicorns, then why does she not collab with men then? Surely if she has such a wide audience then she would be more open with her content and not still be one of the biggest gachikoi members then?

>>68100778
nta but there are definitely some so-called unityfags who spread themselves thin across a lot of vtubers and like to virtue signal and put down other fans. I often see them jumping into dramafag bait on xitter with a "Oh I'm not PARASOCIAL that is le bad!" while they desperately try to become some vtuber's discord mod.

>>68101168
100% the guy is probably some Discord fag mod wannabe

>>68101066
>Uh can you even read you're own argument retard? You're main argument is seemingly that casual fans are what made and keep Hololive at the top
No, ESL-kun, that is your retarded interpretation of this part of my argument.
>If someone watches a streamer every day for over 4 hours and also buys merch and spends money on them on top of it, they are not a casual fan at that point
Correct, it doesn't. It also doesn't automatically make them a unicorn. It takes a veeery special type of brain disease to turn into one of those.
>Also if Pekora didin't pander to unicorns, then why does she not collab with men then?
Because she doesn't want to collab with males. Is that such a hard thing for you to understand? She's literally said why she doesn't want to, many times. Watch streams.

Since I have to, once again, break out the crayons for you: Pekora is a fucking huge streamer, she has many dedicated fans, just because her fans are dedicated does not automatically mean they are unicorns. They really need to teach you critical thinking skills in whatever shithole you come from.

>>68094169
What are those frames. They look nice

sisters still can't get the reason why nijisanji is in absolute mess right now is because of them shitting on Holos instead of bettering themselves.

>>68096592
>actively attack
They might supa some mean comments but overall they just stop watching. It's mostly doxsisters and /#/SEA doing the attacking.

>>68100974
The unicorn vs beggar thing started with gatekeeping e-celeb leeches from collabs with Hololive. The unicorn side always had a lot of support because people just want to watch the cute girl vtubers.
Then Tempus2 debut and EN3 delay grew unicorn support to gatekeep male vtubers as well since the average fan realized they didn't actually want to watch a never-ending sausage party.

>>68103557
Nijicattle also have weird psychological repressions where they would complain about livers graduating and then when Holofans reply to them about Zaion, they pretend not to know who that is. Even when they are crying over another literally who in Kyo. It's weird because zaion's termination and subsequent leaks makes their case about too many graduations more effective but they refuse to do so. It's rare to see an entire subculture try to overcome trauma by pretending it doesn't exist. They're really half-assing it.

>>68093128
How much of a newfag are you to think this

>>68093220
why bother at all then? time for you to get a new hobby if you don't think this one is worth supporting. you probably pirate games and movies too right? cheap fuck

>>68093786
Grade A btfo-ing, well done anon!

>>68092154
This has to be it, I am ready and financially secure

>>68094442
Hang yourself

>>68092263
>Are ruffians really going to double dip the merch just because there are 2 of them? Paypig galore I guess
I only like Mococo.

>>68091783
Because of different costs?

Birthday Merch is the best way to support your oshi. Why anyone is against that?

>>68093302
Economists would like you to spend your money immediately and have no savings, economists do not have your individual wellbeing in mind.

>>68091849
This

>but le unicorns are le baaaad
>nooo ze hommobeggars are wooorseee
Can't fucking believe I have to see the exact same fucking retards arguing about the exact same fucking things over and over again in every single fucking thread. All of you should be hanged. Dumb fucking discordniggers.

>>68101822
Ironic. Yet you can't think how a huge streamer might not have a diverse audience.
Each vtuber caters to niche audience, unicorns flee at the sight of some of them, and gathers around some.
Rushia was literally the biggest holo by a mile and her fanbase was almost entirely made of unicorns and gachikois. If her fanbase had a decent chunk of people who weren't unicorns or gachikois and just legitimately thought she was entertaining and funny, she should still be pulling a lot of viewers. But alas.

>>68100181
Honestly, handwritten signature sounds nice until you realize your oshi would have to give up on a dozen of streams because of that.

>>68109226
iryss new outfit is so cute

>>68091783
tits too big

>>68091783
boobis

>>68100306
>The fact that you're even using the term "unicucks"
but he is not wrong, unicorns are cucks

>>68109226
I lost half my IQ reading all the seething retardation in this thread. One of the worst I've read in recent memory.

>>68091783
Sorry wuffians, I love em both but I ain't paying 300 dollars for a t-shirt, plushie and some key chains.

>>68091887
But the mococo limited edition sold out faster than fuwawa?

>>68091783
Productionwise, a character with a bigger booba will consume more materials than a character with smaller booba.

What's so good about vtuber merch? I could get like 4 games instead.

Weight

>>68119628
It helps to support the talents, especially the voice packs, and you get some unique and cool items related to them.

Unichads won, tempiss sisters won too with their homos 3D, simple as that

>>68092263
Before it was "they don't earn enough because its 2 of them, divide by 2" now its "you guys are really going to give them money twice?" Why are ruffian antis like this?

>>68093066
Nigga, I throw that much at gacha jpgs.

>>68092263
>hes a poorfag
lmao sucks to be third world i guess anon, maybe if you eat pagpag for a year you can afford some merch.

>>68119628
Tekken 8 sucked ass
I wasted 70 dollars on that piece of shit game. I haven't been this disappointed since FF16

>>68093627
Yeah, let's just conveniently leave out the fact that the "coworkers" in question are homostars

>>68094032
Two more weeks? Two more weeks!

>>68093211
why do you need so many postcards?

>>68091783
inflation

>>68092263
I only bought Fuwawa's merch. I can't afford both AND holofes tickets. But a lot of ruffians are pretty rich. I think it's the most loaded fanbase in hololive when you factor in exchange rate.

>>68126700
>ojii-sans buying stuff for their cute dogthers
Obviously.

>>68094032
I think the fact that they are twins who live together kind of lessens the chances of something like Rushia ever happening. If someone is dating one of them, they're not going to be communicating through their fuwamoco account where the other twin can see, so you won't get a mafumafu situation just logistically.

>>68126802
I just want to see their hardwork payoff and for them to realize their dreams...

>>68127055
I can't wait for their travel to Japan and they meeting their oshi. They truly deserve it.

>>68126802
>>ojii-sans buying stuff for their cute dogthers
From everything I've seen, it's more like "their cute dogwives"