/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

You use this leech as your rep? Grim.

how long it took to graduate Yugo? How long for Selen?

>>67853451
Like this guy of all people couldn’t just DM her? Guess that means she’s definitely graduating because this confirms the backlash has her personal approval.

>>67853451
Selen died on the way back to her home planet.

>>67854484
He can obviously DM Doki, he's just bringing attention to the fact that she's locked out of her Selen account since she isn't responding to DMs.

>>67854871
The Doki account is probably banned from responding to DMs, just like she can't tweet or like posts on it.

>>67853451
Not even a larp at this point, seriously want to know where tf is she?

>>67855319
How would they even control that?

WHERE IS SHE??

>>67853451
WHERE IS SHE?

>>67853451
10K DORYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

When will Axel and Regis say something? Poor Selen is wallowing out here.

>>67858419
I wouldn't put past kurokara to actually write something like "you can use alternate accounts while working with us" in their contracts but not enforcing it until they can chokehold the talent

niji wouldn't even have access to a pl account's dms, right?
so he's bullshiting about being able to contact her in private and might even be doing this at her behest.

>>67854484
selen my little kitten please don't ghost my discord dms

>>67858745
rpr is a safe male and autistically respects boundaries to a fault. he will never initiate contact with a female on a private communication channel

ahh the NDF is here guys

>>67858745
I think the safest assumption is that he has talked with Selen about this and is doing this knowing the full situation. Basically he's trying to force Niji to go public with information he knows.

>>67858968
based

>>67853451
You'd have to be pretty dumb not to realize that she's a goner from NijiEN. They're just waiting out some sort of timing.

>>67858810
>autistically respect boundaries
>finally got the japs to start hating him because he couldn't respect boundaries in the last VCR GTA

>>67853451

>>67858801
>I paid you that 15k for the MV, please respond

>>67854284
They never publicly announced Roa and it's been 3 years. They can let the contract lapse and never publicly announce a graduation and termination, if they feel like being extra punitive.

>>67853451
Ask her boyfriend nocturnal

>>67853451
I think if there was something really wrong not-Pomu would say something but as for Selen’s career in Niji it’s safe to assume that it’s over.

>>67859326
>not-Pomu
not-Pomu is probably too swamped with work regarding her new model, redebuts and etc. to have time for anything.

>>67853451
Probably died because of complications related to accident
Niji trying to figure out how to tackle it right now

>>67859326
notPomu is moving to Japan this week and will be going to some school there, she doesn't have time to tardwrangle Selen.

>>67859058
lol portraying this rat looking faggot as anything remotely cool

>>67854269
Selen sure likes him

>>67859391
>>67859459
Right, but if Selen’s Roommate was dead or missing I still think she would care. Mumei too. RPR even admits that he doesn’t have her private contact info. All this points to the notion that Niji are just being assholes and drawing out her termination/graduation and Selen herself is fine.

>>67858672
They may publicly say something at some point after Cover allows them to say anything at all about another agency's internal disciplinary matters, but not a nanosecond earlier. They're agency vtubers, not indie vtubers.

>>67859597
doesn't like him enough to give him her personal contacts it seems

>>67859796
Mumei is also an agency vtuber. She can't speak up, for the exact same reason Axel and Ragus can't speak up.

>>67859942
Unless nijisanji is restricting people from dming on X/discord dm he can talk to HER but he can't talk to "Selen".

>>67859796
>RPR even admits that he doesn’t have her private contact info
Or he has talked to her and is trying to get a public statement out of Nijisanji, which is why he's pretending to "I just want to know more, bro!"

>>67859000
>They're just waiting out some sort of timing.
Yeah, the timing is
>the moment they can fine selen out the asshole when firing her
It's pretty obvious at this point that kurosanji is trying to force selen to quit and using various clauses in the contract to prevent her from getting any sources of income to force her to the table.
aka literal actual black company antics.

One thing I will never forgive Selen for is how she normalized collabs with m*les. Before Obsydia debuted, Lazulight had done a grand total of ZERO collabs with m*les unless you count the debut interview Bobon did with Hana.

>>67860368
hang yourself retard

>>67860118
He’s currently following Doki, he could’ve just not responded or just tried to make a stand for her fans, but he took this weird angle instead.

>>67858672
>Cover allowing talents to say anything even vaguely resembling slander towards another company

>>67858688
doesn't work like that, if they don't enforce it consistently it doesn't have contractual power. Same thing with breaking nda's, if they don't enforce it then it is no longer contractually obligated. Its why they are forced to terminate mel.

Fucking mumei since they're both off

>>67860880
Anon? Did you miss Kiara shitting on niji during VRchat frog collab with Pomu and Pomu's last totsumachi?

>>67860862
>dragoons asking for a public statement after a month is a weird angle
Huh?

>>67859103
She's JP though. Everyone else is third class citizens to Niji except the Chinamen.

>>67859034
oh? give me a qrd on this, a real one not the fucking meme. Japs usually give white gaijin alot of leeway.
Also has he ever met Towa in person?

>>67860944
I’m talking about rpr, learn to read.

>>67861033
Nothing weird about that either.

>>67860936
It's different when she does it.

Another one

>>67853451
Buried under 5 meters of snow in Nunavut.

>>67860133
>literal actual black company antics
And illegal. I taste a lawsuit in the air

>>67853451
for fuck sake? still no announcement?

>>67861191
Based Khyo said, and I literally quote
>We don't know if she's ok
Hopefully this tard fans the flames just as hard.

>>67861300
>illegal
Not in Japan KEK

>>67861070
Are you just pretending to be retarded here? It’s not weird that rpr is asking for a public statement, it’s weird that he’s talking like he has no way of speaking to her and is unaware of her PL.

>>67861341
It will never not be amusing seeing weebs think that Japan is some kind of utopia.

>>67861191
rev is fukin based as fuck, actual mvp

>>67861346
Anon if he has access to her pl he's obviously doing this to put pressure on nijisanji for the shit behaviour.

>>67861438
Selen has been missing for an entire month with no word, thats already a good reason to put pressure on Niji, thats why it’s a weird angle.

>>67861669
He's not doing it just for his own sake. He's asking them on behalf of the fans who can't DM her PL asking for proof-of-life updates.
Besides, even if they have been keeping in touch privately, him saying so publicly could land her in deep shit legally. That's why he's asking Niji for them to publicly announce that she is alive and well, even if he already knows she is.

>>67862412
Then why did he say he never felt the need to talk to her privately

>>67861341
While that's true it also applies to bullshit clauses in the contract since selen is neither japanese nor in japan.
The issue is more likely that they can both bury her in legal fees she cannot afford fighting their bullshit and that they're probably withholding her final pay until the contract is up while threatening to dock a ton of it in fines.

both might be illegal but when you're broke you don't have access to the legal system.

>>67859246
unironically this

>>67854269
NIJISEETHE

>>67859000
Yeah, and that's why the drsgoons are forcing the matter to prevent nijisanji from milking the last drops of value out of her without opposition

WHERE IS SHE

>>67860936
Kiara is special

>>67863611
AND she is not being payed for being forcefully set on the sidelines while they make a profit. AND Selen is starving and struggling to pay her rent because she has no other choice but to endure her employer's abuse. If someone can make this workplace abuse case a big commotion on normies twitter, nijisanji can easily be cancelled by the popular union groups that are gaining traction on social media.

>>67863794
We're playing Halo splitscreen right now.

>>67860991
People were unhappy that he and his JSL crew being tone-deaf and constantly interrupting Yakuza Hoshikawa's storyline with their JSL shenanigans.

>>67863825
Getting cancelled on Twitter isn't going to do shit.
Sending pirates to board Tazumi's yacht is the only solution.

>>67863950
In the long term, it can expose and damage the entire company if done right.

So anyway I went on The Internet™ and I found this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otu1LlhjtVM

>>67864037
good luck damaging the entire company while most of their revenue comes from japan by far..
>>67864496
did you wake up from a coma?

>>67864496
>3 charisma black holes and Elira
Literally who thought this was a good lineup?

>>67862534
Because nijis aren't allowed to talk privately, they have to go through management, Selen already got in trouble for that before so if he publicly says that they chat privately then he'll probably be blacklisted if he hasn't been already

>>67865254
I meant he was asked why he doesn’t message her personal account and he said that

>>67863905
storyline in gta vcr good one

>>67853451
Still recovering from the suicide attempt, even though she is out of the hospital.

>>67859058
Kek
And the fact that the nijinigger is literally black too

>>67865597
Because, as I said, livers aren't allowed to talk privately, so there are two options:
>He hasn't talked to her privately for whatever reason
>He has, but saying so would get her into trouble, moreso than what's caused this current debacle

>>67866812
Bro you are you saying they’re not allowed to use their personal accounts to talk with their friends privately without managements permission…? Are you retarded

>>67866939
Isn't she notorious for being slow/unresponsive in DMs anyway?

Reminder that the WhereisSelen hashtag was artifically manufactured by non-compliant talent Selen Tatsuki in order to put pressure on management to overlook her wrongdoings by turning the public against her. Nijisanji management should not and will not succumb to this false pressure by bad actors, and will instead focus to delivering more waves to improve overall engagement and revenue for stakeholders.
>t. completely unaffiliated liver-fan

>>67867166
taylor swift pulled the same shit
bitches don't respect capitalism nowadays

>>67867166
This but actually and unironically.

She's probably fucking seething that management told her to stop using her personal account (on the 12th) and being not completely retarded she's getting back at them right before she's un-suspended so she can publicly take the higher road on her return. It's so fucking blatant it's unreal.

>>67867166
Thank you, staff-san, for your contribution to the discussion.

>>67867166
arigato my fellow niji intern, hopefully this will wake people up basking in the glory light of riku sama

>>67866939
I mean she can't use her Selen account for personal business and he can't say "selens fine, I spoke to (roommate)"

>>67860554
Get fucked beggar

>>67867826
I think you're giving this guy too much credit. Have you ever watched him for an extended period of time outside of Apex/collabs? The dude isn't exactly a thinker, he's just good at clicking on heads.

>>67867856
NTA but he is right and you do need to hang yourself 'til dead.

>>67859103
Wasn't Road doing merch and voice packs?, apparently she can't stream because the legal battle between her and that other girl is not over or reached a stalemate, effectively locking each other from streaming and the only way to again do it is if some party gives up.

>>67865790
if you didn't know about the gang wars then you outed yourself as an eop rpr watcher

>>67860368
homophobes are more insufferable than the beggars they try to gatekeep, kys.

>>67867916
Aren't most pro-gamers just barely functioning humans outside of their preferred game?

im glad she is alive enough to still play apex

>>67865254
As bad as Niji is, I don’t think they have the authority to prevent her from interacting at all with people on her PL privately. There is no Niji gestapo holding her prisoner, shes just not replying to people because shes probably just depressed by the whole situation.

>>67871108
You say that but using her private account was one of the reasons they canned zaion for

In all seriousness, get used to the idea that Selen killed herself. Become accustomed to that possibility.

>>67871108
>There is no Niji gestapo holding her prisoner
haha good one,
that's literally step 1 of being a black company

Do you guys think she is still alive?

>>67871840
Yes, because the rope would snap if she tried.
I'm sorry Selen, but...

>>67866016
*assassination attempt

>>67871191
For some reason I don’t think Selen is too concerned about that, shes probably done with Niji, this situation was handled significantly worse than Zaion anyway. They can prevent her from breaking NDA, but they definitely can’t legally prevent her from interacting with people, I don’t even think they could if they wanted to.
>>67871641
They can hold Selen prisoner but they can’t hold Doki prisoner, see above.

>>67868781
it takes one to know one lol

>>67872295
This is /vt/, most functional humans would be anywhere else.

Is this the part where I say she owes you nothing, she's not your girlfriend, stop trying to pry into her private life and touch grass? Because apparently that's what you're supposed to say to people worried about someone not saying anything.

>>67872141
>they can’t hold Doki prisoner
Technically sure, they can't lock her out.
But you know that there's gotta be a clause in the contract that heavily punishes (ab)use of a PL account to damage the company in any way.
So yea, she 'can' use Doki, if she likes paying fines and attorney fees.

>>67858688
don't be an idiot, how can it work this way if she has posted several times already?

>>67872674
she already said she was fine on her personal account but apparently rpr doesn't know or doesn't want to listen.

>>67873585
I checked and rpr is literally following Doki’s twitter, he has got to know.

>>67858801
He looks like a young Sargon of Akkad

>>67867166
>wrongdoings

>>67861191
oh no no no niji sisters???

If the attempt to exit the chat was real I wouldn't go talking to every fucker I met in my life. Also didn't her stalkers (joke) say she's in china land? that would explain why she doesn't come back and shut rpr's mouth

>>67874464
She's not in china. She's in nijisanji's basement, under a pile of play button plaques.

>Selen had to sell her actual liver to pay for severance fees from Kurosanji
>Canadian healthcare has no problem letting you die if you don't pay big bucks
>Not many can defend her publicly without repercussions since she's no longer part of a big corpo

Grim, she got boned by everyone involved.

>>67876587
The canadian government doesn't just let you die, it can actively kill you (euthanize) if you are suicidal or have mental health problems.

The collective meltdown after Selen's graduation/termination will be insane. NijiEn will be forever tainted

https://twitter.com/kamamesigogo123/status/1752507590372929572
Mama asking where Selen is.

>>67872674
KEK

>>67877719
why is NDF like this
don't they know they sound completely retarded

>>67858509
Repressed Nousagi

>>67878020
If they weren't retarded they wouldn't be NDF

>>67872674
>>67877719 Having fun owning the parasocial chuds, 1view-chama?

>>67868240
>>67860554
and you cucks are the most insufferable of all

>>67877183
good, hope this spreads on jp side too

>>67860936
Kiara has Austrian autist immunity. She can get away with anything.

>>67877719
>>67877183
its ok if its just one week, two weeks, but a fucking month? really? after coming off from Pomu's fucking graduation?
when you thought Niji couldn't sink any lower they just find impossible ways to do so and sink even beyond bedrock at this point.

Riku Tazumi paid Pomu Rainpuff 7.5Million JPY to assassinate Selen Tatsuki.

>>67883874
Pomu refused. She'd do it for free.

>>67853451
She's tied up on Riku's yacht.

>>67884743
Then why did she leave the company?

>>67872674
and this is the part where I say you can't empathize or understand the genuine concern to people wondering why someone's public work account went MIA for a whole month aka their job likely being terminated. Sure she is fine IRL, what about her job at Kurosanji?

You dismiss genuine concern from fans when their oshi goes offline suddenly for a whole month. They approach it in the most non-parasocial and respectable way possible by a management willing to bury its head in the sands. Honestly, you nijidrones sound like vtuber tourists and not genuine fans.

You compare this to people disappearing forever online as the norm without saying anything. That is not what happens here, sister. People actually say bye when they're done either through themselves or management in vtuber culture.

If you're going to generalize fans who are respectable. I'm going to generalize you critics as not real fans of vtubers because you oshi a company, and not talents.

>>67888773
What the fuck are you going on about. I'm making fun of people who say stuff like that in the face of genuine concern and confusion from fans.

>>67889074
I'm a retard bro, I saw too many of these shit takes that i made a meltie

>>67853451
taken behind the shed and shot. you just didn't hear or see the bang bang.

>>67861341
Japan actually has good labor laws. I'm not going to pretend to understand the JP legal code but at normal jobs where they do this they're relying on the person quitting out of shame, if the person sticks to their guns they'll get some sort of severance package to terminate the contract.

>Cover disappears Magni and Vesper for months and no one says anything about it
>Selen takes a one month break for depression and everyone thinks Anycolor is holding her hostage
The double standards are real.

NijiEN "fan" >>67889735

>>67890403
Cover doesn't have a history of stealth suspensions and stealth graduations, also Vesper was publicly suspended.

Where is Selen?

>>67890403
>>Selen takes a one month break for depression
Proof?
And why wouldn't she communicate that at all? We know she's been online, and has undoubtedly heard/seen what's going on. Choosing to avoid it is only going to make the situation worse and worse for her each passing day.

>>67873585
he's posturing you mental invalid
it's plausible deniability, a way to up the pressure on Nijisanji EN's asstarded management to allow at least some statement from Selen without making it openly look like a concerted effort

>>67854484
First 30 minutes of stream, rpr talked a lot about the situation, confirmed that he's tried reaching out to her through DM's and discord, no response. He only has her main accounts, no alts.

The fact that rpr can't get into contact with her basically confirms that she has been locked out of her main accounts by Niji.

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2048020441

>>67861191
Rev is a massive faggot

>>67861191
>Somebody tweeted something today
this passes as news for vtubers

>ummm but like, why didn’t he just like, DM her past life? Why bring it out in the open?
I can’t get over this level of bootlicking
You think every business contact of hers is privy to her past life? What happened to keeping that stuff separate?
And also - why are people demonising others voicing concerns…? As if that’s not something you should do when a situation is fucked up?
>but he should do it in private
Stop fucking bootlicking. If you can’t discuss this shit openly that already means shit is fucked.
And if you’re going to drag Rpr, why don’t you drag her mama too? Or are people too chickenshit to admit to their hypocrisy?

>>67861191
BASED BASED BASED

>>67871637
The ghost of her Apex account haunts us to this day.

This isn't normal behavior right? Perma banning a Selen question

>>67894401
As always because Rpr is a dude, not that i have any opinion of the guy but its just easier to crucify him and silence every queries as muh stop being parasocial fucks rather than address the main point of concern that "Selen" has been missing for an entire fucking month AFTER a very public announcement about her being hospitalized.

>>67897191
its vivi mods, thats normal for them. they are the most strict out of all nijien, so if you break a rule aka mentioning others without the member mentioning, you get the axe

>>67890403
Magni and Vesper were MIA for 2-3 days before a twitter statement was put out saying their activities were being stopped, and that night/morning all the talents took time on stream to address it and say they didn't know anything further. Sure, "nobody knew" what was happening to them for 6~ weeks, but we got the white notice from the very start.

>>67890403
I can see you weren't there because everyone was talking about it. We did get a statement that was unusual. We just didn't know the circumstances until way later.

>>67853451
Isn't this like a fat fuck who streams Valorant? Am I supposed to give a fuck about him?

>>67867166
that's fucking based desu

>>67899123
NIJISEETHE

>>67890427
Why are they like this?

>>67868240
You and the homos are the reason bullying is supposed to happen in school, the soft ones need pressure to be better

>>67863950
>Sending pirates to board Tazumi's yacht is the only solution.
brb hiring some Somalians

>>67898138
based.

>>67872141
>but they can’t hold Doki prisoner
unless they stole her accounts

>>67853451
She's here. With me. And keeps stealing my sandwich.

>>67859103
>>67868066
ORIGINAL ACCENT DO NOT STEAL

>>67853451
I personally think there should be organized chat raids asking where Selen is to other talents.

>>67868066
>effectively locking each other from streaming
other girl has been streaming though

>>67871191
zaion was liking inflammatory stuff on her alt like an idiot.

>>67868066
It's not the legal battle that prevents her from streaming, it's Nijisanji being an absolutely retarded company and making her stop streaming so that they can show that the whole ordeal caused monetary damage, because, believe it or not, you can't copyright an accent. But then, because that wasn't retarded enough, they still made and sold voice pack, demonstrating that the damage was all self inflicted.
Nijinanji is a dogshit company and the day they implode can't come soon enough.

>>67908464
She started liking stuff after her streamlabs was shut down, so it's safe to say she was already on her way out when that happened

>>67908464
Yeah, just like Kyo did.
Guess who is still at the company?

>>67909093
I really hope that Pomu & Selen's graduations is enough to make the Niji en branch just shut down entirely. It had a good run, but it's just getting sad now

>>67910046
The branch has been doing better than ever. Everyone across tha board saw 3-4 times more CCV ever since bomu graduated. She was the reason why NijiEN was in the gutter, so now without her the branch can finally soar sky high.

>>67877719
Hate FalseDixks, but I gotta say that this new model doesn't look

>>67873585
He's pressuring blackcolor to do something

>>67910480
You're just tsundere

>>67861341
As someone that works for a foreign company I can assure you that they have to abide by the laws of the her home country.
If she doesn't live in Japan and pays taxes elsewhere, she's not part of the japanese workforce.

>>67860368
Go back to Hololive

>>67853451
>calling ever nijisister in the comments a bunch of corpo bootlicking femcels
Well, this is getting interesting.

>>67903772
no u, stop being a little bitch about XY chromies being on streams

>>67911779
BASED BASED BASED

>>67863817
>>67883005
Marine has done it and a few JP's have as well. Mori does it all of the fucking time. Suiei does it like every fucking day

>>67853451
Theres NO way RPR doesnt have other connection to her

>>67853451.

Dead. :)

Where's Selen, Tazumi? That's all I wanna know.