/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Ending soon

>>67790565
This is a very nice art for op!

Not a dragoon so I'm looking for serious replies, how likely do you guys think her leaving (voluntary or otherwise) is? 10%, more?

Ratalen!

>>67790565
OP fan art was made on the Lazusydia era...

>>67790785
Me a tranny ? You're crazy.
Lurking is for newfag, I know it's a fake injonction for long now.
>>67789571
I'm the one melty? While your oshi is gone? Why would I be melty? Also "for ever"? What do you mean for ever? I'm a fuckin' tourist or not?
You must pick a side my friend.
Also believe it or not I like Selen. Vox too (Pomu too but less). Fuck Finana. I just hate how Kurosanji acts. They're pieces of shit.
>>67790270
She'll probably come back under another avatar like Nina. That's a shame although, Selen's design was actually good… and fitted her smuggy laugh. You know it because Rosemi couldn't do the same faces when she tried her model…

>He's just copypasting his own posts now

>>67790777
Bro, when you know what happened to Zaion, Nina, Pomu and others I forgot, the chances are 90%. 70 minimum.
They literally play this dirty trick every time. They lied about the vacations of everyone during the Zaiongate. It's now the Kurosanji's classic.

Just saw this on main
Why was Selen playing Fortnite on her account?https://fortnitetracker.com/profile/all/SelenTatsuki2434
Management schizo rrats not allowed, check your mental health

>>67791142
Because it was in the other retard. It's as retarded as pointing that I repost my deleted messages kek. I repost them because they're deleted, that's the very reason.
Look what that deluded simp board made of you. You're not able to reflect anymore.
Life isn't paying a female streamer you don't know while believing she's your girlfriend, huh.

Carrotlen is always relevant

>>67791504
Always...

>/NijiEN/ tourist trying really hard
Just ignore and report the tranny

>>67791302
The cope is incredible lmao
>why?
>don't give me the real answer though
I can't. This board is the most deluded of the entire forum.

>>67791535
2 posts got deleted at the same time, go make some thinking

>>67789571
I'm the one melty? While your oshi is gone? Why would I be melty? Also "for ever"? What do you mean for ever? I'm a fuckin' tourist or not?
You must pick a side my friend.
Also believe it or not I like Selen. Vox too. I just hate how Kurosanji acts. They're pieces of shit.
>>67790270
She'll probably come back under another avatar like Nina. That's shame although, Selen's design was actually good… and fitted her smuggy laugh. You know it because Rosemi couldn't do the same faces when she tried her model…

>>67791613
Yes because the 5 simps in this thread signaled it or even better, one jannytranny is a Nijifag.
You know I wasn't the one posting the Steam post lol.
But why would someone following a black company be honest huh?

>>67790814
>>67789571
>>67789500
>>67789508
Either you deluded selenfags take me seriously or not doesn't matter. Why would I care about your twisted view? You follow a black company. Your opinion doesn't matter.
What matters is either I'm right or wrong.
And you know Kurosanji acts like that. You know the exemples I gave are true. You know NijiEN is dying for months.
I know this board is under heavy copium but you know it's true. You can't deny the obvious.
Also keep seething on my ESL faggots uwu
Doesn't change that you perfectly understand my words and your anglo ass doesn't make you superior.
Just read >>67789142 lol.
>>67789376
Well the opinion is the exact same than in every general my guy…
But there are no Pomu thread. That's the difference.

>catalog troon being retarded again

https://twitter.com/Paragraphs_mle/status/1751793349500301747
Here"s a neat art!

I just got timeout, why mass report mine? It was a sincere question
Why was Selen playing Fortnite on her account when she's supposed to be suspended, makes no sense
>>67791535
Please read what you just posted, anon you legit sound like the other schizo spamming the thread
>>67791613
That's what mass reporting does anon, check the logs, 2 different time-outs

I'll head to Bed now bros, still a long way till we're out of this by the looks of things... Remember to avoid Baitposts & Shitposts btw!
Goodnight Goons~ Stay Strong as well!!

>>67791848
I'm no troon, faggot. I denounce the Talmud, TKD and TND.

>67792028
>posting trackers
>Tracker stalking is hated
>Tracker get's deleted
Literally not hard to figure out. To answer your question no one knows

>>67792028
>That's what mass reporting does anon, check the logs, 2 different time-outs
Ah. I said it.
>I just got timeout, why mass report mine?
>the board is so schizoparanoid they literally signal each others the very moment someone asks a question.
I can't I'm having so much fun right now.

>>67791535
You are being deluded by yourself, it's laughable how much you believe what you are typing, get some air goon
If it really were management, why bother with Fortnite? Everyone knows her apex account is more recognized, this fact kills your entire fantasy narrative, you really can't believe this.

>>67790777
Bro, when you know what happened to Zaion, Nina, Pomu and others I forgot, the chances are 90%. 70 minimum.
They literally play this dirty trick every time. They lied about the vacations of everyone during the Zaiongate. It's now the Kurosanji's classic.

>>67792163
The original poster wasn't deleted on main, Speaking of overreacting

>>67792447
>m*in thread
Well you are free to go back to that shithole.

>>67792033
Sleep well dragoon!

Imagine being this retarded. Anyway, hang in there dragoons. Your nightmare is gonna end soon hopefully.

>>67792851
That's all we want

>>67792851
Thanks Pomudachi.

>>67792851
>Fiscal quarter doesn't end till march
We're here forever. I suspect they want to try and spread out the retirement damage in the hopes that large shareholders aren't paying attention and aren't told. They're gonna keep jerking Selen around to do it.

It's time to wake up.
This Selen you speak about never existed!

any signs of life?

If selen leaves then what will happen to vivi?

>>67792851
>Your nightmare is gonna end soon hopefully.
I wish... thanks for passing by Pomubro!
>>67793412
Nope
>>67793437
Vivi still has Rosemi and 2 of her JP oshis... but it wont be the same without Pomulen, Im just glad that at least they did a last collab...
https://www.youtube.com/live/25yl5fC7MDs?si=m4O2fiMc8eoP0Qg5

>>67793412
Just the usual game on the morning

>>67792851
>Your nightmare is gonna end soon hopefully.
Yeah it'll end when Selen will know the same fate than Pomu.
This pomudachi knows what he's talking about right?
Believe me, once she will be terminated, you'll feel relieved.
Also as I said above she will come back under another avatar in Vshitjo or Phase Connect. She could even try for HoloEN6 and finally unleash her true potential in a big company.

tail

>>67794013
>More EN abuse
>Can't do a lot of the group stuff like tournaments, team stuff, and collabs she does
I mean it's gotten better but also oof.

>>67790664
Sale ends tomorrow morning, 9.59 am EST/6.59 am PST

>>67792340
>You are being deluded by yourself
Oh I'm the one deluded?
Zaion, Pomu, Nina, Kurosanji lying about everybody being on vacations during the Zaiongate?
All this is true, you know it. Based on past events, I predict the future.
>this fact kills your entire fantasy narrative
I don't even see the link. My only narrative is : Kurosanji did it in the past, they'll do the same for Selen. Also they don't give a shit about EN branch for months and you know it retard, why so many talents left, if not?
Oh yeah but acknowledging it would equal losing some 4chan troll conversation, excuse me I forgot. You're right, Selen will just come back from her break and continue a long long career in Nijisanji without any problem and graduate in 8 years when she will have enough of streaming and we will all live in peace.
This forum brainwashed you.
Selen won't come back, they will terminate her in 2 weeks max and she will apply for Vshojo or Phase Connect 2 more weeks later and you'll watch her again playing fps and laughing with her tomboy voice. Don't worry everything will be fine.
Her new design will probably even look very similar to the actual one.

Hope you guys are doing ok,
couldn't sleep well these past couple of days

In these dark times just remember fellow Dragoons, Selen's got a nice booty

>>67794747
Get some air, touch some grass retard
First of all, I never defended this shitty black company
Show me when they used any liver account TO PLAY A GAME, i will wait
>I don't even see the link.
Look it up by yourself, you are a big boy
I don't even know what you're talking about after this, all that blabbering isn't even getting to the point of the discussion.
The only thing here is, Selen used her liver account to play Fortnite, while she was suspended according to everyone in here. This is why I asked about opinions and possibilities leaving the schizo theory behind
Some easy answers, far less schizo could be.
>Staff didn't restricted her account
>She is free to play as Selen because is not social media
Anything else
But no
Tazumi was playing on Selen account because (?)
Check yourself

>>67795306
Watch some vods to feel better
Categorize or rank them.
Make sure you save everything you care about. Especially members content

>>67794747
The betting money is after march once the fiscal quarter ends. Ultimately shareholders are the driving force here so it's not january but losing so many in Q1 that is the coals she's getting raked over.
I would also like to strongly stress that they will not terminate her. They don't have to terminate her nor will they. Terminating her becomes a management is the problem issue to the shareholders. What they're going to do is just sweat Selen until she cucks or quits so it isn't on them. You can't refute this.

>>67796085
>Staff forgot about or didn't realize
They cracked down on her steam names of all things.

>>67796745
Kittylen!

>>67796745
YOU WILL pat the kitty!.

>>67798454
Pat Selen's kitty?? AYOOO

>>67795873
Spankable badumpy!

Cute Dragon deserves a nice snack

>>67790565
Cool Selen!

>>67791504
Always.

>>67791848
He literally did the exact same thing he got criticised for in the last Bread again, lol!

>>67792033
Goodnight Bro!

>>67792851
Thanks, Pomudachi Bro!

Pomudachis saved nudie pics of Pomu when she was a minor, they are scary people

>>67795873
YES!!!

Praise the Big Beautiful Dragon Booba!

yeah i actually thinking they delayed her announcement until after niji anniv or nijien marika

>>67804452
>>67804636
>>67804833
Praise the dragon SOFTNESS

>>67796251
>What they're going to do is just sweat Selen until she cucks or quits so it isn't on them. You can't refute this.
All that is details to me. Whether they terminate her or wait for her to quit will have the same result : she won't be a Nijisanji chuba anymore. They don't care about her (or any EN talent).

>>67804918
not delayed, its most likely already planned after it. they wont just announce a graduation in the middle of positive things.

>>67807735
I just hope they just announce something next week. nox anniv is near, i dont to wait another month

>>67796376
One of the things they cited in Zaion's termination notice was "Making statements that could lead to speculation or leaking of internal information using social media accounts that she personally operates, during her activity suspension time".
Selen did exactly this by repeatedly changing her steam name, to use it as a distress signal. Arguably, her hospital wristband tweet and New Year's voice tweet could count as violating this rule; tweeting literally anything at all after that could also count, as the act of doing so exposed the lie that she can't use the internet due to recovering from her recent hospitalization. And playing Apex proves that her hospitalization recovery is not preventing her from playing Apex.

They can't NOT fire her for this, especially due to the established precedent. The question is how do they fire her for telling the world she was stealth suspended, without telling the world she was stealth suspended in the process spoiler alert: they can't

Another fun can of worms the upcoming Notice™ will open up for them is that they knew as early as Dec 26 that she wouldn't show up to Anime Impulse, but didn't tell them or anyone else until Jan 10. By that point the fans who bought tickets to her meet and greet could not get refunds for hotel and airfare, in some cases because they had already flown to LA and checked into their hotel. They got refunds for their meet and greet tickets, but not for the money they spent traveling.
Anime Impulse is gonna have a "fun" time explaining to various lawyers why they were selling tickets to an event they knew or should reasonably have known they would have to cancel, and then waited until the last possible minute to actually cancel. Or if they didn't know about it before the rest of the world did, their lawyers will probably talk to Niji's lawyers about this, because somebody's gonna be on the hook for defrauding the dragoons out of non-refundable travel and lodging costs.

warm dragon hugs

gooning with dragoons

>>67808895
retard

>>67807461
You're looking at it from a fan perspective that's wrong. You have to look at it from a company perspective. They have shareholders up their ass over all the talents they've been constantly losing. They try to deflect by saying they chose to quit. Termination sends the wrong message when they can just wait until she cucks or quits.

>>67804452
>>67804636
>>67804833
PRAISE.

>>67810273
Isnt that a worse message saying you're not taking care of talents enough to make them choose to quit.

>>67812586
No because they don't dickride the company hard enough to understand that. They spin bullshit reasons for why they quit not tell them that. That's why the notices are full of PR speak

>>67806746
embarrassed Selen is extremely cute

>>67796745
what's the cutest Kittylen art?

this would be fun month for nijien if only selen didnt fucked up

schizo's aren't even hiding at this point

>>67814940
ENTER
>ENTER

>>67809348
hug dragon

>>67810273
that was asked only one time more than 6 months ago from one investor, not shareholders. besides that, it was mainly about id so its unlikely its going to reach 16 in a year again.

>>67814940
for me its picrel, although its more of a cat maid

>>67815816
>>67818810
Both are good however consider!

>>67820680
EXTRA CUTE

Bearlen has a very kissable forehead

Her voice pack is on sale for 12 norepinephrine hours...hopefully we atleast get the end of this charade

>>67822819
and kissable thighs!

>>67822819
She has very cute hair.

>>67822819
Nopan...

>>67823158
I do prefer her short hair design it feels very fitting for her

Pomu....

>>67790565
SELEN I KNOW YOU ARE /HERE/ PLEASE MARRY ME I LOVE YOU SO MUCH, IM NOT A DISCORDFAGGOT

Cya later bros, stay strong during these times...
>>67815703
I seriously think a lot of them changed tactics from aggressively pushing their suspension/termination rrats, to then just claiming "Uh, actually she isn't suspended!". With some samefagging mixed in for good measure ofc.

>>67826589
Cya later, Bro!

30 days have passed
lets see if something happens

>>67826589
Cya later dragoon!

>>67826589
Rest well Dragoon, see ya soon

>>67786529
Its not really that unusual because for some reason niji management skinswalks on suspended/graduated accounts. It happened with Axia while he was on a "health break" and Mayuzumi a few months after he graduated.

It's over isn't it bros?
What can we do

>>67830389
I highly doubt someone was skinwalking her Fortnite account, she just wasn't locked out at the time. It's not like she's locked out of her Doki Apex account even though it's been used for Niji stuff in the past.

>>67829777

What are you guys genuinely hoping for? That she comes back and stays with Niji despite how she's being treated? Or that she bites the bullet and reincarnates?

>>67830740
It's her job anon, and she has no income from it since last year immediately after spending 15k on a project out of pocket that she will now not see a return on. She had to fucking ask for rent money on throne.
Even if it's just until her contract expires, if she's not fired then they need to let her back to work. If she is fired, they need to stop dicking her around and get it over with.
Leaving her in this state is cruel

>>67830740

>>67830511
>I highly doubt someone was skinwalking her Fortnite account
Its doubtful yes but it has happened in the past with regards to axia playing his switch account after he told them he was out.

>>67831032
>Leaving her in this state is cruel
It is. I don't even know how legal it is to just keep her in limbo like this and prevent her from working to get some money.

>>67831054
that one might be rm stuff related instead of selen

I just moved shit. With my freaking mind. Okay. Yeah. That is something I do now.

>>67830389

>>67830389
that was when the japs were stalking his and honhimas accounts right? funny shit

>>67829777
Thanks friend's friend!

>>67831370
Psykergoon...

>>67831092
They did the exact same thing to Zaion and Yugo so it must be allowed by some stipulation in their contracts or something. Almost like a final "Fuck you, you're going to make us look bad, so enjoy a month of no income."

imagine selen cuddles...

>>67831616
Also did it to some of the jp livers like Gundou and Akane as well so its a company wide stipulation

>>67831651
They'd be super warm I bet!

i miss Selen's armpits

Stay strong dragoons!

>>67831076
>>67830389
I feel like that's staff doing some final cleanup, making sure there's no sensitive information tied to the account before they change the password and lock them out of it.

>>67831890
It doesn't necessarily mean anything but she started changing her name to be jokes about her Fortnite creator code a few days after that.

>>67832147
Yeah, it's entirely possible that it's not even the same thing as what happened to everyone else and she just took a much needed break. Imagine she comes back tomorrow and it turns out she was just fucking with us by making us think it was the dreaded one month suspension.

https://twitter.com/rpr/status/1752294038596698452
RPR posted about her disappearance

>>67832929
Lotta respect for that, he might have just burned a bridge for selen

Hey am back bros!!
I want to cuddle/snuggle and fuck this NOPAN Bear in her Bed.

>>67833120
there are no bridges

>>67832929
can't believe Rpr fell for this nonsense.

>>67833120
yea he actually got something to lose by speaking out, gigachad move

>>67833924
This, rpr is such a retard
Selen is fine.
And even if she isn't, it's her responsibility to tell her fans, not Nijisanji's.

Welp

>>67834393
Kys bootlicker

>>67833591
Welcome back dragoon!

>>67832929
>>67834486
Based Based Based

>>67790565
Is she dead bros?

>>67834611
I hate Nijidrones so fucking much…

>>67834486
I feel like I'm missing something here. If Selen was playing with Noc, couldn't rpr just go through him to ask? Pretty sure iPN has irl contact with Selen too

>>67832929
Fuck
I don't really care for that dude, but is based for caring for his friends even if he gets balcklisted

>>67835012
rpr also seems to hate them.

>>67835578
Damn ok, my impression of him definitely improved from that

>>67835145
I've only seen her play with AC1D. How long ago were the Noc & iPN games?

>>67833924
He's her friend so I think Selen is very much giving them the go ahead

>>67835578
>at all times
Why jump to some crazy stalker strawman.

>>67835907
iPN buys her merch so there's no way he doesn't have contact. He could always go through her PL account as well because I doubt management controls that.

>>67835876
>>67836103
Yeah, he seem pretty serious about this.

>>67835578
>>67836218
Holy based homie protector

>>67836103
>Selen is very much giving them the go ahead
that means that she is either being suspended for much longer so we will not hear anything in Febuary as well or she is already decidedly terminated and that's her way of getting ahead of the announcement drop. I don't like both of these options.

rpr and selen are best friends, this is rpr just ripping off the bandaid from selen's approval to just terminate her already and end this bullshit

>>67835907
she had games with noct at the start of the month

>>67831032
>She had to fucking ask for rent money on throne.

Wait how the hell do you guys know this shit?

>>67837067
I'm not gonna doxx her catalogbro
Try doing your archive reps

>>67837067

>>67837194
Jesus fucking christ
where's the link, I'll donate

Wait would that be weird? I just don't want her to suffer like this, she's helped me a lot during my bad times

>>67836103
>>67836945
>best friends
What, why are people thinking they are on better terms than they actually are

No thoughts, just Dragon Dumpy...

>>67837253
It was closed and changed the info on it to this

>>67837421
I'll donate to that link then

>>67835145
I mean yeah, he probably could find a way to contact her if he wanted. Make of that what you will.

>>67837421
>>67837494
I'll donate too. I really hope selen doesn't view us lurking as trying to dox her and stuff. I wanted to donate to help her with rent but either she got money from friends or felt too ashamed and decided to cancel it

>>67837421
>selen was in the hospital because she has cancer
no...

>>67837655
>>67837421
just a lovely tribute to her graduated friend

>>67833591
Welcome back, Bro! Same!

>>67810147
kek, deluded parasocial simp can't take the truth. Many such cases.

Sadly, I don't think that even with RPR joining in will make any difference for anycolor, it will help with the public opinion but jp corpos are specially autistic about public outrage
I'll gladly be wrong tho, but I doubt it

>>67826589
>>67815703
kek. I screen this for when the notice will drop. The meltdown will be juicy. Deluded fans calling people schizos for explaining what we all already know is hilarious.
This forum brainwashed you. You can't just call people schizos to get away. Especially when Kurosanji did it to their talents many times in the past and lets their EN branch dying.

>>67838315
it's a JP corpo the only right way to do it is through their own official contact form. What Yugo and Zaion antis did. And Nina's. Everything else is just noise.

>>67830389
>>67831076
>>67831616
It doesn't make any sense, she was referring to her fortnite creator code when she was changing her names on steam.
she also should have activity on her apex or at least her destiny account, there is nothing. it was her

>>67791142
Because they're deleted, retard. That's the very reason. Pointing that show how unable to reflect you are.
And I'll keep doing it.
Cope seethe and cry.

>>67831032
>>67831092
>>67830740
>black company
>>67831370
And I'm the psyko huh

>started by AC1D
>backed up by RPR
They know a lot more than everyone, they're being cynical about it, i don't buy RPR not being able to contact her, Selen must be in legal trouble to not be able to use her socials, so she toll her friends to pressure for her, she is using her fans in a way, but I guess this is positive in some way, right? Fuck niggersanji

>>67835578
>>67836218
What's going on with your Twitter? Why are your avatars square?

>>67839024
old twitter layout extension

>>67838526
All your posts are comically ESL lmao. It's funny how antis always seem to speak in painfully broken English. I wonder what it could mean.

>>67790664
https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1752179999246000425

>>67836218

Fuck bros I feel like we are at a turning point
The end of the month, the hashtag, rpr...

>>67817807
Who knows how true it is. Fits with what they're doing to Selen though.

>>67839275
>You're ESL
Yeah? And?
Deflection failed.
I repost because my messages are deleted. You're a retard.

>>67839336
everybody asking where is Selen but nobody asks how is Selen

If she ever came back, would it even be the same anymore?

>>67839581
As Selen? Maybe not. She's probably gonna be fucked by the algo since she hasn't streamed in a month now.

>>67839581
Most people aren't the same after getting waterboarded and starved for over a month by the people that are supposed to be helping them.

>>67839581
Yes? Over these three years it is safe to assume multiple livers came back from suspensions and nothing changed in their streams.

Say what you will but the campaign gained some real traction and is getting attention from big names and normal people alike. Only reason to oppose it at this point is because you don't want people knowing about her situation.

>>67839391
lol

>>67840032
We were going to find out the answer by tomorrow anyway, this is all just some grifter taking advantage of that fact so that he can then proceed to claim that he accomplished something and feel good about himself.

>>67837401
Paizuri Sisters!

>jwu
Have jiang shi Selen and dragoon

>>67840636
>reanimated body used as a puppet
read the room

>>67840561
Do you find elira sexy?

>>67840636
Cute Sexy Jiang Shi Dragon!

>>67840636
>>67840847
THICC Dragon! That outfit is so SEX!

>>67840751
Yes I do! Why wouldn't I?

>>67840751
Older models were better. It's a bit too forward.

>>67839581
The number 2 vtuber in the world came back from essentially a year hiatus and didn't skip a beat. Haachama was gone for most of 2023 and was in the hospital, considered graduating, and had her interactions with her best friend from niji JP heavily limited with no real sign of issue

>>67840459
Also Cover sponsored deflection of Mike's blog post and Mel's termination

>>67841206
I'm pretty sure Cover gave both gura and haachama tons of support when they needed it.

>>67840459
People say that every day and it doesn't happen.

https://twitter.com/Myth1cArts/status/1752345935227543829

>>67841282
>Mike's blog
Hololive dodged a bullet by firing her 2 years before that clusterfuck

>>67840459
You're more optimistic than I am. I'm not sure if we'll have an answer a month from now.

>>67841400
SEXXXX!!!

>>67841402
This.

>>67841296
Lol ya, them having Gura god knows how much of her own money for her QUEEN cover, only to say it's never going to happen is exactly what she loves to receive

>>67804636
Unflustered tomboy is best tomboy
She is taking the Nijitorture like Polycarp. She won't be broken like those whores in Zuttomo. She will persevere. 1 and a half more months dragoons.

>resorting to talk about unrelated drama
catalogfags sure are subtle

>>67841400
SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEX

>>67841647
It's almost like this drama is a nothing burger because it's happened countless times before and will continue to, but dramafags want to distract from actual drama since it makes cover look bad

>>67833153
>>67833153
>>67833153
next thread

This >> 67840501 is my take on the whole situation. Fuck kurosanji

>>67843037
>phone posting moment
>>67840501

>>67843037
>shitstirring tourists can't even link posts correctly
LMFAO - Party Rock Anthem

Do you think this is a veiled message from selen?
Does she need us to make noise so she has bargaining power?

>>67840032
>getting attention from big names
leeches*

>cover out of nowhere
fuck off

>>67840636
fat fucks

>>67843397

>>67843732
Dragoons hate nijisanji now?

>>67843869
If there are any dragoons that don't hate nijisanji after they pulled thier oshi's christmas gift to her fans out of the blue and stealth suspended her for a month, they aren't dragoons

Kitty thieflen jump scare!

>>67843869
>now
Fuck you, the main thread has always treated Selen like shit
I hope she finally gets out

>>67843869
How much abuse does she have to take?

Missing you Sewen...
https://twitter.com/WetHoneybadger/status/1751968437717319778

>>67843087
>tourist
see >>67843078
Sometimes phone posting does stupid shit
>shitstirring
NDF can’t even comprehend why people would be upset with kurokara

>>67845731
Aw that's a very sweet fanart

>>67843869
Love the talents, hate the company.
t. pomie

>>67847371
>Love the talents
LOL
LMAO

>>67847371
Dare I say there's a few talents that I don't like? Overall, they're cool tho. I really want Vivi to grow, that's for sure.

>>67849165
Shill me on vivi. What's good?

>>67834393
What a retard, the company hired Selen so she is their responsibility now.

I just want to know that she's alive at this point. My anxiety is really high today and I've had to talk myself down several times from going full schizo and checking obits. She tried once. What's to say she wouldn't again? I'm freaking out.

>>67849716
I'm worried too. I want this to resolve itself. I'm tired of waiting for anything from anyone about what's going on.

>>67849716
She's never tried anything, shut up, also there is (albeit subtle) PL activity every day. She's fine and I'm sick of hearing this crap.

>>67849350
She just went through Bloodborne so expect her to play more Souls games. She's also pretty involved in the FGC, so there will be Fighting game streams as well.
But there will be some kino games like Killer7 and Skyrim sprinkled in. The only thing that filters me with her is Mahjong Souls tho even though she I believe she wouldn't play it that much. She doodles a lot and posts them on her twiiter, she's very active on it too, you'll see her reply to a lot of vtubers no matter the size. Overall, she's a good girl, kinda retarded like Selen too.
I followed her PL since the beginning, when she graduated I thought it was all over until a certain Lethal Company collab. I prefer her PL model tho imo

>>67850079
Thank you for the information. I apologize for being dramatic, I just have a past of friends ghosting me then finding out the worst happened so I have hangups where sudden silences are concerned.

Hey!! I love Selen!!
Not a regular to this thread but I watch her a few times a month and I'm really starting to miss her.
Hoping for the best, have a good day dragoons.

>>67850626
Thanks anon, appreciate the support. Have a good day yourself

>>67850626
Thank you bro!.

>>67849716
She's fine. Remember your therapy exercises and calm the fuck down retard.

>>67850626
Thanks for the support!

>>67850079
Most people know selen as selen and with the common "nooooo, you can't mention previous identities. BANBANBAN" attitude of here, reddits and discords, it can be assumed that most people really don't know shit other than "Selen was sent to the hospital and disappeared. I guess she died? maybe?"

>>67852841
They know she was discharged but are probably assuming she's in a full body cast or some stupid garbage
The "no PL" rule really throws the doors wide open to workplace abuse

>>67852992

what is the thread's consensus on #whereisselen?
is it a good or bad thing?

i don't want to bandwagon if this is going to backfire. but it might just be enough of a PR shit storm to give selen more negotiating leverage for whatever she's going through right now.

>>67852841
I know we're getting a lot of new people from the hashtag but I assure you, people here have known she's fine for a long time because they've been semi-openly monitoring her PL activity in this thread, in a dead PL split, and the catalog. There's never been any doubt she's fine if you're a regular.

>>67853077
There's no consensus. Most people seem to just bitch about it because acid is probably behind it. I stopped having any problem with it when e.g. 127 started using it and I posted my own.

>>67843869
most of us have been pretty open about our disdain for the company for a very long time.

>>67853077
It's bad, Niji will never budge so there's no way to backfire. Like they did with Zaion, Niji is going to do whatever the fuck they want and play up whatever bullshit they feel like. There are only 3 endings. She cucks, she quits then gets sued into oblivion, or she starves for 10 months until her contract expires or she crashes two 747's into tazumi's yacht while foreign art students are doing a project on it.
There's no leverage, management has been throwing petty shitfits at her for ages. Nothing but investors and shareholders dumping them like a radioactive brick is going to do anything which a twatter campaign instead of directly contacting shareholders to inform them wont do.

Has there ever been a case of someone contacting youtube and getting a replacement play button or a vtuber suing in family court to regain custody of their play button? She has nothing but time for the next ten months.

>>67853365
>Has there ever been a case of someone contacting youtube and getting a replacement play button or a vtuber suing in family court to regain custody of their play button?
Youtube will send duplicates but you have to pay for them (and they're priced high enough to prevent people from buying multiples to hawk online). My working assumption has been that Niji won't pay for extras and won't permit livers to pay for extras themselves, because otherwise the whole idea that they don't get play buttons PERIOD makes no sense.

>>67853550
>Silver's $150 apparently
I'd do it.

>>67853077
There will be some bad actors that will make it look bad but at the same time there's others that genuinely make good claims
There's no consensus basically jump on it if you think it's worth

>>67853077
Wouldn't be happening were it not for Niji's apparent silence on the whole thing to begin with, plus for all the claims about fueling drama and whatnot most people just seem genuinely concerned about Selen's overall well being more than anything. But yes you'll still get your shitters much like with anything.

>>67790565
berserk reference?

>rawr!

>>67854215
It kind of proves without a shadow of a doubt the disdain Anycolor has for the EN talents so it's pretty good
Every other case has been "oh it's not that bad, she just wants to move on to new horizons, oh her management was bad boohoo, oh Zaion and Mysta and Yugo were menhera so they don't count" but Selen has contributed a ton and has been nothing but supportive and they basically disappeared her

>>67855657
>oh her management was bad boohoo
That one's funny, the impression I've had is that their immediate managers are typically good but hampered by decisions of middle/upper management.

>>67790777
It's been 6 months since the last hololive EN gen, and it seems like almost all of NijiEN is unhappy, maybe they've all just had other offers?

>>67855657
it doesn't really prove it when most of the other members don't have that problem and are even praised by their manager like petra and elira. If this situation happened in jp the same would happen with them btw, regardless of their size.

>>67855825
almost all of nijien is unhappy? don't seem like the situation to me at all and i watch even the males

>>67855752
Yeah, even Selen's overall had a good relationship with her own Manager. Same goes for Pomu too. I think it's usually the middle-man or executives, and the general bureaucracy of the corpo, fucking things over for them... (At least when it comes to bigger things like projects and such)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RruVzWCy6xM&ab_channel=PEF%7CNijisanjiClips

>>67853077
It started with
>Acid
>Gator
>Medi
>Epu
It's cancer, discord fagots

yeah if selen had mental issues about work and stress and was ordered by the doctor a full rest after an episode, i also would like for anycolor to advertise this all over the internet for all the schizos to craft retarded rrats about it.

>>67856282
dragoon project right? not surprising, they wouldnt have it all done alone, they clearly planned it and posted all at the same time.

>>67856516
2+2 is 4, right?

>>67856471
You will never get a yacht ride.

>>67856282
You know, what gets me is why start all this and yet the groomer's pet commissions PL fanart at the same time.
I'm neutral with the #WhereisSelen thing, kinda leaning towards voicing out but what I dislike that my twitter algo has been showing me ALL of their tweets, not just the one for Niji

>>67856471
Health issues are fine and all but you would usually put out a statement coordinated by the company and talent that this is the case because like it or not, your talents are public figures of sorts especially in a big corporation and being the most subbed inside the company' overseas branch. Instead, we only got vagaries that she got checked into a hospital and checked out and then silence as far as everything is concerned about Selen.

>>67856628
Subhumans, they are disgusting simps

>>67856634
I don't know why people talk like Niji has never done this before.

>>67856891
>quantifiable return diagnostic and procedure with a fixed standard rest period
vs
>diagnostic for mental health and vague rest period which is probably something like "whenever she feels like it, but not before a mandatory rest period and a counter examination"

Depression is a popular excuse for getting medical paid leave from work in countries that allow it, since it's up to the patient and the practician to determine when it's ok to get back to work, and the employer just has to abide by it

>>67845731

>>67856891
They have done that before yes, the first time they ever done that was last year. usually the members just say in their own account

Just stopping by after a while, miss Selen was always nice to my oshi and I always appreciated when she'd drag him into collabs. Keep on hanging in there dragoons. Sorry I'm no artist but I wanted to draw you guys something

>>67852992
>>67857633
Thanks for being here bros...

>>67857348
Where are you getting any of that from? The whole medical leave narrative is that she needs time to recover from her accident.
>>67857535
Yeah but people are acting like it's out of line to ask for even that bare minimum information kind of statement from Niji and it's fucking weird.

>>67857812
Welcome to the NijiEN fanbase, do not question our god Riku and his disciples Paul Li in their infinite wisdom

>>67857633
cute

>>67856282
I don’t really give a fuck who started it. If it get’s the fanbase riled up and asking for answers, that’s all that matters to me discordniggers or otherwise. Results above all.
>>67856628
I had the same issue. I liked all the posts and made one or my own, just to get my TL flooded. But I just muted all their accounts and it’s been fine ever since.

>>67857633
EXTRA cute!
I dont know who your oshi is but thanks for passing by with a cute art!

>>67857812
anon, i only used depression as an example to explain that mental issues are often abused to get extended leave due to how difficult it is to get an exact timeframe for the patient to be better.
Thus, IF there is a mental component playing a part in selen hiatus, it becomes a tricky situation to even estimate a precise return date. Maybe she just needed a rest, maybe she needs more.
You all saw how bad it went with the AR when they announced it, then had to cancel when they saw it wouldn't work.
But it could also be the usual jp corpo retard mode with retarded PR and retarded mangement.
I guess we'll just wait and see till this gordian knot unravel by itself.

>>67857633
Aw cute!

>>67843397
I'd rather have them instead of backstabbers or fake people

>>67790777
Realistically? I’d say 60%
It’s slight more likely than a coin flip and get a little more likely every day we don’t hear anything. But I hesitate to put it too high just because humans are creatures who like the idea of change, but who usually dislike the potential of change when it’s presented directly in front of them. She could be in the worst condition mentally, have everyone in the company hate her, and be unjustly treated by management. But do you want to give up the years of hard work you’ve put in as “Selen”? She, specifically through her Selen character, made connections through not only the industry, but the Apex professional scene, which was probably a dream of hers. She’s made a large number of dedicated and casual fans in every level of the vtuber scene. The name Selen is one of the most iconic to come out of NijiEN. Will any of that follow her if she moves on from Selen? Maybe, but there’s a real chance it doesn’t. Especially in the professional Apex scene, where most non-vtuber fans don’t understand nor care about vtuber nuances and will only know Selen isn’t part of the broadcasts anymore only to be replaced by some “Doki” chick if she’s lucky. All of this is extremely hard to give up. It’s very easy to say leave Niji from the outside looking in, but put in her shoes, would I be able to pull the plug? I don’t know

>>67859413
I mean she reached that fame no thanks to Niji and through her excellent networking skills and hard work. I believe she can reach it especially when she's already friends with those people. And the fact that they're not under Niji hells a lot since there are no Collab restrictions for her once she reincarnates or re-debuts.

>>67859550
wow, i wasn't aware she already was a 4 view in her pl

>>67852992
Hi, Pebble/Ikumi Bro!

>>67859550
she knows many people who redebut (even in the apex circle, dtto, tsuna, etc) and knows it's a crapshoot on whether the fanbase will follow you.
personally, i will not watch the yellow model because it's ugly.

>>67859413
The main issue is now she's directly in the crosshairs of not being favored by management having many of her initiatives cancelled or denied only for others to be able to make similar opportunities. She might give a chance if management is completely overhauled if she isn't terminated immediately but otherwise I think it's a done deal.

>>67853077
I don't think it'll cause Niji to do anything. I think the attempts by whichever of the two discords that organised this is futile, and that it could make things a lot worse for Selen. I do wonder if the people who organised this have other motives for making it happen, too.

>>67859550
thats bullshit. I hate nijien management but selen grew a lot as a vtuber and person due to being in there. This was more positive than negative even if right now its negative.

>>67859945
I think we'll only see anything after the nijien tournament ends. would be strange for them to announce a graduation/termination in the middle of that. if anything they will give the positive first and then give the negative, if we aren't looking at at 2 months suspension.

>>67859914
There was that big Apex thing they let her do. It'd be hard to imagine an indie getting all the people she did. So just having the name behind her is useful, even if they don't do anything useful themselves.

>>67859945
It's a plus on my side now since I was able to remember to block bannedvtubermemes who appeared at the top of my For You.

>>67859945

>>67857633
Thanks, Bro! The art you drew is really cute!

>>67860213
I mean yes, but it still got ruined by various other factors. The main issue was the fact that she didn't pull a Pomu and was looking forward to 2024 inside the company when she did her last stream despite all that. But the fact that the company threw her under the bus like this just for a MV and muzzled her would've changed this rosy outcome altogether. I know I wouldn't want to stay at the company any longer than I have to if I went under the same situation, at the very least, I would be interviewing elsewhere and planning for an exit once I got a role secured elsewhere barring any legal clauses and quitting once that happens. Selen might not even get that at this rate.

>>67859914
>now
>She might get a chance
It's been joever for a long time

>>67860592
They're going to sue her into oblivion along with the usual clauses.

>>67860592
I think most people would have a problem, but since we can't even hear from Selen we don't know how it made her feel. If she thinks whatever punishment she got was too severe, and it happened in spite of whatever the medical issue was, there is a pretty good chance she'd be gone. But maybe she thinks keeping the brand is worth the suspension. Sometimes you keep that shitty office job because you need medical insurance, so it could just be a financial calculation.

>>67861006
>Constantly shut down, sabotaged, last minute rug pulled, and now intentionally starved
There is no bridge left to save. She's bigger than Niji.

>>67859550
Yes, those are definitely due to her hard work and dedication. But she didn’t realize the fruits of her labor until she joined Niji. As shit as Kurosanji is, it undeniably has brought her exposure and resources that she didn’t have before to help realize these results. She will be able to bring the reputation and reception that fans have been exposed to if/when she moves on, but she will not be able to bring the brand she built nor the admittedly small and shrinking amount of resources that Niji brings. Everything hinges on fans buying into and following the former instead of the latter. As for networking, as I mentioned in the previous post, she has made plenty of connections in the Apex scene, but those are tied specifically to her character as Selen on the broadcasting side. Does Nicewigg at ALGS say “it’s really sad our dragon friend Selen has decided to graduate and leave….anyways here’s our new friend” and expect that not to be jarring and bizarre for non-vtuber fans? Maybe, I have no clue, but it’s a risk regardless and humans are typically risk-adverse, especially in life altering situations. Will there undoubtedly be more opportunities in the future outside of the company and potentially in another? Of course, but it’s going to be different and even more hard work on her end that may be difficult, especially if she’s in a bad mental state.
>>67859914
True, but that’s really the kicker. If you are her, you can’t outright expect anything to change. You can only control what you can control, and is it worth it to completely flip your life upside down to take what little control you have of the situation back? Again, outside looking in, I’d say yes, but put in her shoes, it’d be tough and would take a lot of courage.

36 hours from now will be 3 AM PST on Feb 1. If they're "only" waiting for a new month to Zaion her instead of waiting until the next-to-last day of her contract, we should be getting The Announcement™ around that time.

>>67861125
>Does Nicewigg at ALGS say “it’s really sad our dragon friend Selen has decided to graduate and leave….anyways here’s our new friend” and expect that not to be jarring and bizarre for non-vtuber fans
not that different from a pro-player getting sold to another team and getting a new handle

>>67861006
She had to beg on Throne for her monthly needs this month without streaming, I doubt Nijisanji is really providing her much at this point to make it worth it to stay without things change. But she'll probably still do it to do the solid footing first, and looking for opportunities to hop ASAP if she isn't going to be terminated once Nijisanji breaks their silence on her.
And speaking from being Asian, there's a good chance she probably hasn't even told her parents about this to not let them worry because something like this is pretty shameful to say after getting a non-traditional job that they know nothing about if they wanted you to be a doctor, lawyer or etc. originally and tried to pay your way through school.

>>67861345
Her mom watched other livers and stalked her a bit too, they must know already

>>67861779
her mom speaks to her in chinese. there's no way she can understand english twitter news

>>67839571
We know how she is. Dead.
We want to know where her body is.

i miss her :(

>>67861779
I doubt they would keep tabs on her that closely on her career, this was probably year 1 or a bit into year 2 of her working at NijiEN. But I realized they would probably know something is up and that is because she wasn't at Anime Impulse going to LA. They would want to know why she was going on a trip for work and that got cancelled. And yeah, if they did search, they could probably get results really quickly from a Baidu search on her situation.

Just gonna go to Bed now bros, need to keep up my current sleeping schedule anyways...
Goodnight Goons~ Stay Strong!

>>67862613
Sleep well dragoon!

>>67862600
They don’t actually go to LA for that

>>67862613
Rest well Dragoon!
>>67862164
Same...

Could someone provide me with the mega archive? I feel like that's something we should add to the OP unless we find out she's coming back to Nijisanji.

>>67862613
GN goon, stay strong.

>>67861250
I guess, but it’s not really the same. They keep their name and you can visually see their face. Reincarnation for vtubers literally only comes with the voice and mannerisms. Selen is lucky to have a very recognizable laugh and voice, some chuubas are unlucky enough to have generic sounding voices and don’t even get that. Time will tell I suppose, for the best I hope.

>>67863993
https://mega.nz/folder/bwlkXLbI#-ULC3RJvOgpsV_zl05qicQ
I'm halfway to upload everything, I missed 2 days of uploading and downloading members streams due to IRL stuff
I also need to fix some issues I'm having with MEGA's upload speed

Guess that's bump limit ... Any bakers?

>>67865703
No...

>>67865703
I can bake today!

>>67865878
Nice!

>>67865675

Thanks! ..What folder is are the streams youve gotten so far in?

Death soon....

>>67868097
OVER HERE!
>>67868087
>>67868087
>>67868087

>>67868134
Thank you baker!

>>67868134
Thanks breadmaker.