/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

You should make note of it in the OP how the real help is stuck behind a private discord. Because that's something you don't tell new people.

>>6724877
”real help”?

The fuck does that mean? Jusagis discord isn’t private

>>6725482
Discords take discussion away from the threads and are bad overall for generals on 4chan.
If it's a case of not wanting to be associated with this place then you discord asps can fuck right off.

>>6725482
Discords take the active chatters and move them elsewhere. They're not necessarily a deathknell for a thread, but so many generals I've seen create a discord end up dying unless there's enough pushback.

There's also the whole thing of if it's not public, then anyone who doesn't join it is going to miss out on everything there. Hell, even if it is public, it's just easier to get into

>discord timeloop
yes, there's an unofficial "aspcord" that's run by a bunch of TBA vtubers who haven't debuted or streamed in months
yes you can get in all you have to do is have an account on twitch and twitter set up where you've done a couple streams, have VODs up, and clearly are putting some effort in
just DM the people in it, it's not hard to figure out who the people are in it

that being said it's not some super secret mystical thing, people get better advice from /wvt/ about streaming shit if you're not a retard about it, since that's full of active streamers who regularly break 50-100 viewers instead of vchatters and TBA drama

This thread is to dump the basics at you, where to request art, how to set up the most basic of the basic for your OBS, how to click play and then you should already be moving into /wvt/ if you're serious because that's where you're going to get feedback from people who have done this before, and more relevant pastebins, like the fucking essays they wrote on which books to read to improve your singing voice and quality

>>6726366
No fuck off, no more <2 viewer aspies on /wvt/ or back office THIS is your containment thread discordnig.

>>6726518
I will continue to post this as long as it pisses off you tribalist retards

>>6726736
Anyone know an artist (skeb or otherwise) that does like 1-off manga pages?

last thread got weird at the end. guessing we had a bunch of new folks coming in for the first time after the Obsydia debut?

>>6726877
its mostly because of the 6666666 "get"

>>6726736
Fuck off Bodega you cunt

>>6726736
Nothing more Tribalist than a circlejerk private discord.

>>6726957
We've been getting an increase in schizos in these threads lately I've noticed. I'm gonna take it as a sign of increasing interest.

Twitch.tv/Saruei
My debut is going to be early august, most of the time i will be streaming my art (hentai artist and i did my avatar myself)
As well fps, shitting/humilliating my community and teasing with sex talk.

>>6727320
Saruei post chicken on twitter

>>6727242
it's partially a bleedover from the other thread, they've been doing timeloops about discord shit for weeks now and the shitposters stopped posting in there and started moving here because they weren't getting the reaction they wanted

that's the real tradeoff for all the new chuubas interested here, you can get a boost in viewers from here but you need to have tough skin. People will make up lies about you, they will harass you, they will gaslight and try to twist things around and you have to know how to deal with it or it's gonna fuck you up mentally. You will get gore sent in your DMs because people think it's funny, you will be called a slut and a whore the minute you talk to a guy on stream. whether you can handle it or not is up to how long you've been around this site

Hey, if that ArtAnon from a couple of threads ago who asked for some inspiration is here, and it was indeed you who posted fanart of me, thank you <3

>>6727445
>you will be called a slut and a whore the minute you talk to a guy on stream
But what if I am a guy?

>>6727591
the default is to assume that guys are ngmi, so it doesn't matter

>>6727591
guys get passed over on some of this because guys don't debut their first stream to 50 dedicated goslings and groomers trying to fuck the streamer, they debut to like 3 people sitting in their chat making casual conversation and have slower growth but less schizos

>>6727157
that wasnt me i barely check this thread...
this is probably stupid but what did i do to make you mad anon?

>>6728410
>what did i do to make you mad anon?
I assume he doesn't like you joining a tribalistic discord

>>6728410
You took bait too easy in back office and constantly mentioned about the discord timeloop and yet refused to mention who was in charge or tell them to make it open and not private.
Also it seems you don't really fit in with 4chan culture.

>>6727541
You aight nigga

>>6728568
the discord was open to anyone who lurked these threads for months. people like you are why its private. anyone who is serious about streaming is welcome to join.
i didn't know who actually owns the server because i don't care i just talk to my friends and give my shitty advice whenever a question is asked. i know now that its the robo tba.
im an oldfriend i've been here since 2007

>>6729445

>>6729445
>the discord was open to anyone who lurked these threads for months.
Then why not keep it open?
> people like you are why its private.
why make it private when you can ban annoying people from it

>>6729445
>im an oldfriend i've been here since 2007
Really? What's your board journey, then?

>>6729515
because trolls, prevention is better than cure

>>6729585
>because trolls
of which there are like 3 and if they are a big deal make it read only for new people, privating is overreacting and creates an insular circlejerk environment.
>prevention is better than cure
you are making a bubble without any immunities to the outside

>>6729585
This feels like more of an excuse recently. If what you believe is true about the schizos then as >>6729670 said it's probably only a few people at best which can quickly be kicked out.

>>6729670
>>6729722
the discord isn't a zoo where you can snoop around and take screenshots out of context. you already know what the steps are to getting in. if you can't even do that bare minimum, fuck off.

>>6729736
Kill yourself Aspnigger

>>6729736
>take screenshots out of context.
that isn't an issue when anyone can join and see the context for themselves

>>6729755
This is the /asp/ thread fuck off to the back room.

>>6729795
When you fucking stay here where you belong. You aren't wanted in the back room.

>>6729789
>anyone can
Yes.
>everyone will
No.

Why has there been so much drama lately?

>>6729838
Anons are made that you keep raiding /wvt/

>>6729837
Yes and? If it isn't a real rrat then why care what a retard who wont check for themselves thinks Vel has never had that out of context issue

>>6729755
seethe, you're doing a great job at convincing /asp/ to open their discord acting like this

>>6729900
How is it raiding? People get done getting started and set up and have no reason to post here in this thread. It's only natural.

>>6729945
I'm already in it

>>6729900
>keep raiding /wvt/
/asp/ies have pretty much stopped posting there, the fuck are you talking about?

>>6729963
You're foreign invaders, we don't want to be culturally enriched.

>>6729554
i've always been a lurker. /a/, /v/, /co/ i considered my home boards. /cgl/ from like 2010 to 2013 and then i got the fuck outta there. i hung out in /feg/ when 3 houses came out. /ck/ sometimes, my favorite ice cream is the turkish ice cream. i got really into origami last year and visited /po/. i was in /jp/ when holo en happened and migrated here when this board was made.
i post in backroom like once a day dude. i really dont want to intrude but i'de like to be friends with /here/ chuubas.

>>6729967
>Im not only anya in /vtm/
We are undercover

>>6730014
Who are you?

>>6730014
Fuck off Ringe

>>6730014
>i'de like to be friends with /here/ chuubas.
having a private discord doesn't help with that most dont fuck with those after the first timeloop

>>6730001
kek

The fuck is going on here, why can't you people be normal for ten minutes?

>>6731080
it's just schizos looking for easy (You)s

>>6730014
>i got really into origami last year and visited /po/
What's the cheapest way to secure lots and lots of paper in multiple colors? I have an idea for a project for one of my favorites

>>6731080
Normal people aren't into Vtubing, this hobby is full of psychopath egotistical assholes.

>>6731105
Larceny

>>6731080
this is a preview of what it's like to be a vtuber /here/
just replace the aspcord shit with whatever baseless accusation someone made up about you

>>6731272
>baseless
it's not baseless they admit it exists it's part of the thread

>>6731105
i just get interesting paper with cute patterns from daiso.
newspaper can have an intersting texture and color and it's not sturdy at all. i also use interesting product packaging sometimes.

>>6731272
Stop posting in back alley you fucking retard.

>>6731654
I posted in back alley before I ever posted here
I was a lurker and viewer before I ever made my chuuba account
short answer is no

>>6731863
You clearly need to do your lurking reps if all you do is keep crying in the back alley about this thread. Nobody likes aspies there you should know this.

can an anon give concrete examples of what 'networking reps' are like?

>>6733770
sure
>uwu i'm a cute vtuber boy everyone should post reply to my tweet with you're cute vtuber avatar you never stream with XD

>>6733770
>networking reps
just means don't be an antisocial fuck
don't' think of networking as transactional at first, just talk to people and try to have a good time with them
then once you have people following you, you can think about bullshit like the algorithm

>>6733770
A concrete example in real life if you're working in a company: when you meet someone new, try to learn things about them. Their name of course, what's their role, what are they working on, if they have a family, things like that. Remember/note this somewhere. Next time you meet them, show interest in those things. Did their big presentation go well? How about their son, is his broken leg healing well? Basically, show people that you care about them.
It's a bit hard to translate this to the vtuber world because at the beginning you have almost nothing to offer. If you have a special skill, that's the moment to use it. You draw well? You hang out in the chat of someone a bit more popular than you? Make a nice drawing of a recent moment in stream, or of them. If they notice, talk a bit to them.
I'd say the opposite of >>6733920 and think of networking as transactional, but from the opposite point of view: what's in it for them? What can you offer them? At least that's how you should think when you contact people for the first time in DM/emails.
In general, try to be present i in the community and generous

>>6733770
Examples of starting networking reps:
-Replying to other people's tweets on twitter
-Making tweets that people would want to interact with like clips, music, art; even polls or general questions to get people to reply. For clips and music, make sure you upload them directly to the website instead of linking them from external sources
-Popping up in peoples chats so that they're aware you exist (don't monopolize the chat though that just looks weird)
Once you've talked to people enough to be a recognizable name you can try and reach out to work with people for things like collabs

>>6734356
>>6734443
well i don't have any content yet or any followers so i'll just go and make some content. don't really have anything i can offer to others at the moment. thanks anons

>>6734628
honestly if you're starting from scratch on twitter i ended up just following a lot of other small vtubers which got me to about 100 really easily
i've seen some people who were able to pull like 500+ followers by just posting their reference sheet though that only works if your design really stands out or was done by a big artist; have you made your design yet?

I downloaded OBS studio last night and the UI just overwhelmed me. I thought I'd make more sense of it after getting some sleep but nope. I won't ask y'all to write a wall of text on how to use it. But I'll ask if there's any video tutorials on features and how to use it to stream on YouTube

>>6735810
https://lmgtfy.app/?q=streaming+on+youtube+with+obs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhPRmgX_gAw&t=4621s

>>6735810
Just start with the basics.
For now if you look at the bottom (assuming you've made no UI edits) you should see 3 boxes that you care about, scenes, sources, and controls.
you can ignore scenes for now, but its basically just templates you can easily swap to.

sources is the sources, add things you need such as game feeds, audio feeds, etc. basically if you want something to show up on stream you have to add a source for it.
controls are self explanatory. start streaming to stream.

link your twitch or youtube account for easy streaming.
as you need more, google what you need and someone will tell you how to add it.

>>6736606
if not even these guys with all their experience and insight into the content creation industry can figure it out, you won't. give up, males.

>>6736606
hard work and luck

>>6736885
luck only matters if there are people who care about males. there aren't any.

>>6736959
Yup, there are exactly 0 people on the planet that care about male streamers. All their viewers are bot that they pay themselves.

>>6736993
>needs to come up with a hyperbole
cope, it's been 2 years and no males have managed to crack the code because it's impossible. female vtubers debuting daily and they're sitting pretty with 50 viewers easy with plenty of donos

>>6736606
>>6737045
To stand out as a male chuuba, i feel you need to do something massively different or have a good niche.
Way too many guys are just backlog andys with very little added to their gameplay. Nobody really wants to see a guy play Skyrim episode 30 anymore, it's just too overdone.

Try and aim for something you are good at. For example if you are really good at Souls-like games then go for it, do speedruns/lore runs/challenge runs instead of just a normal boring playthrough.
Not a Vtuber but i watch Outer Heaven and they massively focus on the Metal Gear series doing all of the above and they really cornered that market. If (You) can do something similar for a genre or series you love then it won't really matter if you are a Vtuber, people will watch you because you have a niche.
If you just want to play Variety as a brand new male vtuber, it's going to be a very tough road ahead.

>>6737045
>nijimales.jpg

>>6737094
>japanese audience with japanese culture
look at all those anime pretty boy males that tried to emulate Kazuha and failed in the west

>>6737091
this just supports that argument that if a male is good enough to make it as a vtuber, they'll do better as a face cam streamer.

>>6736606
these guys started on youtube when youtube was anything goes, 2010s youtube when they started was throwing shit at the wall and see what gets people to watch
Jerma985 has a good quote about it where he literally did eclectic shit and had no idea what to make for a solid number of years because you just didn't know, demographics were untested and not laid out

now on youtube and twitch, demographics are clearly laid out but I think vtubers are in that same wild west where people just don't know
the guys especially are just throwing shit at the wall to see what works and doesn't. They do have a good point though about humor and personality matter much more to male vtubers than to female vtubers

>>6737045
I mean, look at anime. Anime males are cool when they're strong and have lots of skills. Anime girls are cool when they exist. That's just the usual experience for males and females. So unless you're thinking about transitioning, there's no use complaining about it

>>6737141
That's because the men who tried to copy kazuha suck at it.

are you seriously pretending there isn't a giant market of western fujos too lazy to learn japanese that wouldn't jump at the chance for bishiboys? cause i have 2 sisters that sperg over yuri on ice and countless yaoi ships that suggest otherwise.

>>6737091
>Try and aim for something you are good at. For example if you are really good at Souls-like games then go for it, do speedruns/lore runs/challenge runs instead of just a normal boring playthrough.
Then being a vtuber brings nothing. Kahmul streams without his cam, Ahady streamed a lot without even a fucking mic

>>6737143
>They do have a good point though about humor and personality matter much more to male vtubers than to female vtubers
Skill also matters a lot more

>>6737210
>That's because the men who tried to copy kazuha suck at it.
>blaming the talents
what a fucking cop out response.
>they weren't good enough
>they weren't funny enough
>they weren't skilled enough
>just you wait, there's gonna be some magical unicorn who'll come in and save the day!
>for a male to succeed they must be the absolute pinnacle of performance to be good, and only then will there be an audience!
meanwhile there are plenty of mediocre female vtubers who also suck but are doing just find because CGDCT

>>6737091
>andys
drop the normalfag lingo

>>6737291
>meanwhile there are plenty of mediocre female vtubers who also suck but are doing just find because CGDCT
How many slice-of-life anime focus mostly on males? What percentage of slice-of-life anime do they represent?

If you're not going to blame the talent, what are you going to do? Blame the audience? And then what?

>>6737291
>not being talented is a cop out
no. its because they suck
>b-but women have it so easy
cool. now grow some balls. even if its true that you have it harder than girls, your piss poor pussy ass attitude is why you'll never make it, not because you have a dick.
Its the same as normal streamers, sure random tits on chaturbate have more views, but there's a good reason all the top stream spots are monopolized by men.

If you niggers want a good example of a male chuuba close to home take a look at Little_S.
He's grown a lot lately and even got partner, his humor is what makes him and the "male debuff" doesn't seem to affect him.

>>6737358
>How many slice-of-life anime focus mostly on males? What percentage of slice-of-life anime do they represent?
the fuck do animes have to do with vtubing?
>>6737370
>no. its because they suck
yeah, keep blaming the talents and not the literal desert of an audience. ten thousand males could all try with different gimmicks and all fail because there's no audience. and you'll still be pearl clutching blaming them for just sucking.

all while you fail to actually talk about what makes a male vtuber work. it's easy to just shit on male content creators and say they 'suck'

>cool. now grow some balls.
herp derp just grind bro it'll be fine

>>6737457
>the fuck do animes have to do with vtubing?
The audience you fucking retard

>>6737358
>If you're not going to blame the talent, what are you going to do? Blame the audience?
the point is to realize THAT THERE IS NO AUDIENCE. stop trying.

>>6737438
an example of a male streamer who would have done better as a face cam. the avatar adds nothing and is no more than a little gimmick that might as well be a channel avatar.

>>6736606
I primarily started Vtubing as a way to improve myself first and foremost while hoping to entertain people along the way. It's not too different from streaming games like other vtubers but it's a niche I haven't encountered much in the chuuba sphere.

>>6737515
that's good bro, keep at it, hobbies are absolutely a great thing to cultivate, especially if they help improve you as a person. i'm shitting on the males who think they can make it big or are trendchasing hololives.

>>6737513
I actually really like sneks PNG route, it adds to the stream with all the redeems he does.

>>6737457
they do suck, that's why nobody likes them
males started the anime avatar bullshit and made it big as content creators on youtube long before vtubing was a thing.
males made it big in japan doing normal streamer shit.
males are big as normal streamers.

The fact you're being such a faggot heavily indicates your faggotry comes off in your videos too. And that's why nobody likes you.

But of course no matter how many examples we give you and show you how often men can be successful, you're going to cry about it because you're a no balls beta male faggot.

>>6737493
right, forgot the huge audience of viewers who donate akasupas to a rerun of Wonder Egg Priority

>>6737602
keep coping, maybe this magical unicorn of a perfect male streamer will come out of nowhere to rescue the state of male chuubas. maybe he'll fuck you in the ass so some of his talent rubs off on you.

ITT: people realize that males have it harder than females in general

>>6737711
>in general
fuck off incel, go back to /pol/

>>6737711
if you believe this you've spent too much time on this site
men don't even have it harder in streaming compared to women, all the top streamers are men

>>6737666
Or I just watch men with nijisanji because they're actually talented as opposed to all these whiney incels complaining about nobody loving them solely for existing. btw while you're shitposting, nux is the 3rd highest viewed vtuber on twitch streaming right now. while takkahata (an ugly alien chick) is 5th.

melody is ranked higher because she's melody and actually talented.

>>6737736
Fuck off bodega

>>6737736
>incel
I don't remember saying that it's a bad thing, or that the situation should be different, or that males deserve better, or that females should be hated for this situation

>>6737753
Well, my usual remark about this is that the richest people in the world are mostly males, and the people in prisons are mostly males. The glass ceiling comes with a glass floor. That's the way it works for streamers too

>>6737785
nux
>clickbait clipping clout chaser
takahata
>member of TeamFourStar who started out early 2010s youtube and built a community over a decade
nice cherrypicking

>>6737861
i'd say you need to leave 4chan, but you're too far gone. hope no woman comes within 50 yards of your incel fucking ass

>>6737907
>no that popular male vtuber doesn't count because of excuses!
lol ok.

what's your excuse for all those girls streaming right now with 0-1 viewers?
where's your glass floor for them?

>>6737907
So you have nothing to disprove my point and you just sprout words that you don't know the definition of instead? Okay

>>6737996
>pointing out that a talent is popular because of their 10+ years of content creation is an "excuse"
delude yourself as much as you want, but you can't point to them as an example of a male vtuber who would 'make it' without acknowledging their fanbase that existed prior to their vtubing careers. otherwise you're just arguing in bad faith.

>what's your excuse for all those girls streaming right now with 0-1 viewers?
>where's your glass floor for them?
don't care, only shitting on male vtubers who think they can make it

>>6738104
ah so you're just baseless shitposting because you yourself failed and were unwilling to put in any effort to succeed.

its nice that you're self aware.

>>6738179
>no counter argument
literally any male, even Zylphe would succeed as a male vtuber if he started with the fandom that Takahata started with.

>>6738217
you didn't make an argument.
and your excuse for nux wasn't an argument either, it was literally just "he doesn't count because i don't like him"

and if women also have 0-1 viewers starting out, it implies that there is no magical boost for them either. so men don't have it harder, they're just inherently less talented because men are inherently less social and used to appealing to others, so naturally they suck at a medium where you make your living off of socializing and appealing to others they fall behind.

>>6738311
>it was literally just "he doesn't count because i don't like him"
no, my argument is that he built up a fanbase prior to becoming a vtuber by being a popular clickbait clipper. i never said anything about whether i like him or not. stop being a fucking retard you can literally scroll up and read what i said.

>and if women
don't care. this is about males who think they can make it.

aspniggers getting uppity again

>>6738311
>men don't have it harder, they're just inherently less talented
What's the male equivalent of showing your boobs on twitch? What's the male equivalent of whoring yourself out on onlyfans?

>>6738545
cooking

>>6738370
So what's your problem? There's clearly plenty of successful male vtubers, despite your insistence otherwise. Why are you so insistent on having a stupid argument online?

>>6738722
Because the people in the back stopped arguing with him and he came up here

>>6738722
>problem
the only problem are delusional males who think they can make it as a vtuber

>>6735810
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuSUPpoi0Vs
Or just search "obs basic tutorial" on Youtube

>>6738906
If you think they're delusional why are you even here? You're not going to change anyone's mind, you're just making yourself look like a jackass. Is your time worth so little to you that you decide to spend it this way?

>>6737543
Is it bad to want to make it but be realistic in expecting I'm only ever going to stream to a handful of viewers if I'm lucky?

>>6739610
>Is it bad to want to make it
not at all, of course everyone wants to make it as a streamer, it'd be a dream job for most. but statistically, very few people make it, even traditional face cam streaming. and so far, over the past 2 years, it's been shown that it's even more difficult for any male vtuber since you're appealing to a niche within a niche

there's a distinct lack of miko images for how much anti male posting there is here

>>6739998
This is a level of schizo beyond Miko posting.

>>6739998
Here you go

>>6738545
getting angry at stupid things.

>>6740119
You mean like rage clips?

>>6738545
I like well defined forearms and large hands. Some boudoir shots of this would make my legs jello.

Which female indie western chuubas you can learn from? I don't see any having their own threads on /vt/?

>>6740248
JosabelleDemon

>>6740317
What the fuck, I just saw her on twitter like 5 minutes ago for the first time

>>6740248
Honestly vshojo. You don't have to copy their jokes or sense of humor, but their attitudes and way of communicating with their audience is top tier.

>>6740317
You forgot to write what I can look out for while watching her.

>>6739610
If you're in it for the money, you're ngmi. This is purely a hobby. If it can become self-funding, then that's amazing. If it can buy me a pizza once a year on top of that, then I'll have fucking made it.

I want to make more than $20 profit on this, and I'm working on it, seeing growth every time I stream.

But if this is another part of life I just don't succeed in, then it's not going to be a surprise.

>>6740419
>Good variety of games that isn't just the oversaturated stuff
>Very good chat interaction answers almost every single message and notices regulars
>Gapmoe voice
>Made model herself and does art streams/model streams showing off her talent
>Good Overlays, takes up just the right amount of space and has the necessary information on them
>Likes to joke with chat
>Despite the slightly sexy model, she isn't just a coomer like vshojo and tries to have a seiso stream
>Knows about /wvt/ and intergrated well (mostly lurks now)

https://www.twitch.tv/josabelledemon

>>6739610
most people even here are just doing it because they want to show something cool to an audience or the social aspect of hanging out with other people who like vtubers
it's 1,000,000:1 odds anyone makes it especially if they don't have formal voice, singing, or art training to the level that the big streamers have

>>6740692
That's why I'm doing it. It's fun, I get to share niche stuff I like with people who might not have experience with it, and that makes me feel good. Sure, I'll apply for NijiEN, and it would be sweet if I made it big, but it's fun even if I don't.

>>6740248
It depends on what you want. Yozo is a good option and she even lurks here/replies to dms to give advice if you have specific questions. She’s very popular outside of /here/

>>6741154
Shes a bit too loud and refuses to change her models eyes despite them being too far apart

https://www.twitch.tv/cuteanimeboyvr
Gonna stream some dancing. Give feedback on how to improve the channel.

>>6741237
If you look at any popular (1000+) variety streamer they’re all very loud unless they’re pandering to GFE or have an existing fan base outside of the platform. It’s just the nature of the market you’re wanting to be in.

Hey guys! I'm keeping my long running Rimworld game going. Real chill stream today. Come by and say hello!

https://www.youtube.com/illreviewanything
https://www.twitch.tv/illreviewanything

Fuck y'all aspies, learn from the best
https://www.twitch.tv/gaelstratus

>>6729515
It's because someone in the discord went full schizo mode and had the owner of the server's balls in his furry clutches.

>>6741697
>furry clutches.
what?

>>6741773
Just alluding to something that a few others may be familiar with.

>>6741827
>alluding
just say it

>>6741904
Kenji schizo posted so hard the mods were "forced" to make the Discord server to be more secure because he had threatened to leave.

>>6741962
damn lol guess that's why you don't let an eternal TBA run shit

>>6742012
To be fair with you, the server owner does work pretty hard. It's just that they want to build their model tracking program from scratch. (Or something along those lines.)

>>6742094
worker smarter not harder you can't get stream reps from studying you have to actually stream

>>6741962
Thats literally what VV did

>>6742094
>build their model tracking program from scratch
The classic case of building a game engine when you wanted to build a game, because building a game engine is low risk, easy and understood compared to making an actual good game

>>6742094
YandereChuuba

>>6742256
Doesn't YandereDev just uses Unity?

>>6742343
I think so, but I'm just imagining the spaghetti code

Hey I heard you talentless cunts seem to think I've been shitting up your thread, I don't care about your drama, I don't care about your discord and I don't like most of you. Stick to your thread full of useless advice and months out of date timeloops of /wvt/ and fuck off.
I haven't even posted in this thread since the 10th asking if that Axecutioner faggot was one of yours.
Here's your banana.

>>6741962
Wasn't it because of that dragon girl?

>another 2-viewer I poured tips on for weeks gives up
why...
why give up...
how much more money do I have to throw before I'm able to save them all...

>>6742524
No, this was way before her.

>>6742486
It can be really well coded, I think both are different issue. YandereDev has no ability to code, that guy is procrastinating from his debut. If he really wanted to stream he would stream the process of making what he's currently doing. It could be actually a good idea, starting with a simple png and having a more and more advanced model that you've made yourself

>>6742505
jesas gael

>>6742596
It was a joke in case you couldn't tell
Want an unironic answer? A colossal waste of time for what will most likely be a subpar software with basic functions

>>6742505
>full of useless advice
wanna drop your stats

>>6742768
https://sullygnome.com/channel/gaelstratus/

>>6742768
gael is a schizo but he isn't wrong your advice sucks theres a reason people ask wvt shit instead of joining a discord

>>6742765
>A colossal waste of time for what will most likely be a subpar software with basic functions
I agree, that's usually what you get for reinventing the wheel, but it could still be a good experience. My point was just that making this software isn't an excuse to not debut, he just doesn't want to

>>6742916
>your advice sucks
what advice given in this thread sucks?

>>6742872
he belongs here more than anything

>>6742916
I think there's a difference between "the advice here sucks" and "nothing new has been said here and it's mostly basic things that you could find out by yourself easily unless you ask a really specific question". If you expect that you'll get popular by asking it here, you're doing it wrong. You'll get common-sense advice because there isn't really anything else. You might get a good answer for a technical question though

>>6742939
>what advice given in this thread sucks?
what advice this has been a whole discord timeloop thread

>>6742768
Most of your chuubas are failures, while most of /wvt/s are successful

>>6743040
>don't stream expecting to make it, do it as a hobby and have fun with it
>the group of networking suggestions by >>6734443 and >>6734356

>>6743043
nta but correlation isn't causation

>>6743043
>casually claiming /asp/ies as /wvt/

>>6743043
Most of the ones that are actually from /wvt/ and didn't just join it are "successful" because their entire audience is the thread. Most have next to no viewers outside of the thread and if people were to drop them, like they did Odette, they'd lose half their viewers.

They're bouncing viewers back and forth who are desperately trying to keep them afloat aside from a handful that are breaking away by not pandering to shitty niche /wvt/ schizos who want dumbass content no one else cares about.

>>6742872
Isn't 113 followers after 5 months really bad?

>goes to youtube to see what kind off clips indie western chuubas get
>95% of them ara-ara, hi honey, moaning and lewd words out of context
So this is how you grow...

Anybody figured out how to set up vtubestudio to allow your head to nod or what parameters you should add for this?

>>6743454
Yes, yes it is. Sometimes it isn't even representative of their content like with a couple of the VShojos or the clips from the goblin, but those out of content clippers still help with growth.

If all it does is attract hundreds of new viewers while repelling a few dozen /vt/ snobs then I'd say it's worth it

>>6743454
blame the audience of lonely fucking weeby incels who eat that shit up and give it clicks and views.

Now that I think about it, do you think any vtuber has paid clippers? Clips seem very good to improve your growth in general, paying someone to do it seems logical

„Streaming career“ is „becoming a writer“ of the modern age, change my mind.

>>6743662
I believe Randon has someone that does his clips and editing

>>6742556
What was her name, goslingchaama?

>>6743662
Randon pays Beakie Bee to clip his videos.
VShojo pays "English Vtubers Out of Context" to clip their videos
can't think of any other chuuba who does

>>6743662
Larger ones do in the form of Youtube content managers. Randon doesn't have a "paid clipper", they have an editor which I think is a bit different of a job description and probably a bigger pain in the ass since Youtube lacks the clipping option.

>>6743662
Do you mean the people who run the clipping channels (vtubers'r'us), or people who make clips for the streamer?

Either way, yes.

I'm also a strong believer in the rrat that a LOT of popular clips are pre-written. Like a stand-up comedian, they'll have 10-15 'jokes' or 'slip-ups' they plan on doing, and will clip each of them, either by themselves under a second account, or through a pre-warned clipped, if it doesn't get picked up.

Think how weird it is that the entire clip fits within the 30 seconds, and that you're not missing context on it (unless that's the point, and seriously, how fucking frequently do people say something like "Oh yeah, I love getting pounded. Oh no, I meant like getting giving Great British Pound Stirling guys, c'mon me, I mean what")

>>6742925
Hello, I'm the fool in question.
>A colossal waste of time for what will most likely be a subpar software with basic functions
Yes, it was. I regret that decision.
>that's usually what you get for reinventing the wheel
but it could still be a good experience. My point was just that making this software isn't an excuse to not debut, he just doesn't want to
You're both right and I eventually wised up and thought about what I really wanted to do contentwise. Now that that's over with I'm moving forward pretty quickly.

>>6743585
If you want that audience, go for it

>>6744048
Hey, whatever got the ball rolling. The boom phase of vtubing is done anyway, so it doesn’t matter much if you have wasted time or not by now. Just make content like everyone else.

>>6743742
>>6743772
>>6743941
Thanks

>>6743987
>I'm also a strong believer in the rrat that a LOT of popular clips are pre-written. Like a stand-up comedian, they'll have 10-15 'jokes' or 'slip-ups' they plan on doing, and will clip each of them, either by themselves under a second account, or through a pre-warned clipped, if it doesn't get picked up.
That actually make a lot of sense, and could be good advice to prepare something like that

>>6744048
No judging here, I work in software myself and it's a hobby of mine so I can understand your decision about the software part. I also suffer from procrastination a lot, so I was speaking from experience. Good luck on your debut!

Watching all the other cute indie chuubas with talents and great voices makes me sad

>>6744048
Good for you, it can be hard to put things behind and realize it wasn't a good idea

>>6744281
you probably have a good voice too, just never heard it the way others have

>>6743941
>Youtube lacks the clipping option.
they have it now

>>6744281
Hating your own voice normal, it's a matter of getting used to the sound, at worst you actually just have an average voice

>>6744238
>>6744260
>>6744299
Thanks guys. You have every right to rake me here. I appreciate your politeness. My timeline is like a week or less for initial streams.

>>6744260
You're right about he pre-written thing, can confirm a lot of mid-sized chuubas I'm friends with have a few jokes they pre thought up for stream that they'll slip in if they're relevant to something happening, it's something I do as well.

>>6744457
Afaik it isn't fully available, not sure if it works for ongoing stream

DID YOU FEED THE CHICKENS TODAY!?!?

>>6744802
no I don't have a sub to them

Have any of the women who applied to niji seen any views on their application video?

>>6744802
I did, I enjoy watching them

>>6745555
outside of the 66666 anon, there should still be none for the time being, unless you ended up giving a view to yourself on accident.

>>6736812
>>6738923
thanks

https://twitter.com/Mythic_Live/status/1416894958263492613?s=20

>>6747624
To my knowledge this is a friend group, not an org. You're essentially applying to get into a clique that are already very close with one another, and to my knowledge you won't be getting any actual support.

>>6747678
>this is a friend group
Checking the socials this seems more likely to be the case, they're a group, not an agency/company. It's just odd to see the group have a paypal account.

>>6747880
They're most likely just a highly organized friend group. Iron Mouse, Silvervale, Melody, and Zentreya were like this pre-vshojo (minus the paypal account) where they were obviously organized together as a group, just without an official title

>>6744281
It could be worse, my dust allergies have been acting up all week, absolutely ruining my voice.

>>6744281
What are your qualifiers for an objectively "good voice"?

>>6748613
nta, but anime dub voice tier is where i think you'd start to be good. otherwise, immersion is already broken if you just sound like a traditional dudebro streamer

>>6748838
Do you mean in recording quality or something else? Can you be more specific with your examples?

>>6744281
go to the sticky and read the books on tone production and voice
almost anyone can work up their voice to being pretty good from average with practice

>>6749180
recording quality doesn't really matter as long as you have a decent mic. i mean in voice acting talents. can you talk like voice actors for other anime-based content?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mw3ex4POxXY

>>6749390
I'm honestly not sure what it is you're trying to point out. Do you mean just the dramatic affected voice he puts on when 'in character'? Because other than that he sounds fairly normal. He's definitely put work into his particular delivery of these rehearsed lines, but that's something anyone can pull off. I'm asking for a specific quality to his voice that's natural which makes it good.

>>6749946
>I'm asking for a specific quality to his voice that's natural which makes it good.
you're asking for something retarded that doesn't matter then.

>>6749390
That's acting, not "having a good voice". Both contribute to being nice to hear but are orthogonal

>>6750183
Sure is hard trying to figure out what a "good voice" is then. Even harder to know whether or not you have one without first trying it out there.

>>6750250
>That's acting, not "having a good voice"
that's both. you think his voice isn't good?
>clear
>easily understandable
>projects well even when outside
unless you're a 4 pack a day smoker with leaky holes in your esophagus, everyone's natural voice is fine. the problem comes when you just talk like average everyday joe which kills it for vtubing.

you need to put in voice acting into your speech.

>>6750386
>Sure is hard trying to figure out what a "good voice" is then
there is no objective measure for what a "good voice" is, that's the entire reason why you're asking a retarded question about something that doesn't matter.

>tfw you delete a VOD because your voice is so dead from a week of streaming

>>6752397
vocalize softly (aaaaahhs and ooooohhs) while blowing through a straw (don't hum)

>>6752515
I was going to continue drinking hard liquor straight, but this is probably the better option.

>>6752639
you can still drink hard liquor, they're two different tubes.

should include a link to what i'm talking about in case anons are confused https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xYDvwvmBIM

>>6752639
Also stay hydrated, and in a room with a humidifier if it's dry. Avoid whispering, since that places extra stress on the voice.

I gargled whiskey once before a gig when I was pretty sick, at the advice of another singer, but that's not really a scientific remedy.

>>6744610
I watch all my VODs. I look specifically at my chat and how I responded to it. Sometimes I have a "oh shit I should have responded this way instead, that would have been witty as hell." I remember those responses and whip them out in the future if my chat says something similar. Clip that shit

I have a technical problem I think you guys can solve. When I plug in both my mic and webcam (which has a shitty built in mic), it only captures audio and visuals from the webcam, instead of getting audio from the good mic and visuals from the webcam. Don't know how to fix this, but I also messed it up further by going to Manage sound devices in settings and deleting the webcam as an input device. While it won't catch it's audio now, I also can't use the webcam. Plugging the cam in and out doesn't work

>>6754876
You're a woman, aren't you.

>>6754876
What program are you using?

Singing resources pastebin was updated.

>>6754876
I'm assuming you disabled it? On your sound configurations (the same one you used to get into the manage sound devices) go to the Sound Control Panel, right click, enable the "show disabled devices" option, right click on the device and enable it back.
The wrong mic is probably just an input configuration, just enable your main microphone as the default recording device (for some programs you will have to manually select it though).

How much of a debuff is being a porn artist when you want a fresh, separate identity as a VTuber? I've been commissioned to draw some pretty "niche" stuff and I don't want to necessarily make lewd jokes/content.

>>6755543
Just.. don't connect being a vtuber to your porn artistry? It would be hard to tell unless you intentionally brought it up.

>>6755616
Their art might be recognizable if they stream, though. If that's the case, I think asking people to respect that you want to be "cleaner" would work.

>>6755543
You can simply say that you don't want to talk about it in your chuuba enviroment, you make the rules and enforce them
>>6755616
Getting recognized by the art style is a thing

i'm aware of techwear shit being overused, but i really like the aesthetic of it (think girls' frontline style). should i go for it or will it turn into generic trash

>>6756044
There are lots of bad techwear out there, if you think yours can look decent go for it

>>6755543
you have complete control over the content you create so it's entirely up to you

>>6756044
Do what makes you not hate your avatar.

>>6755458
>>6754876
>>6755289
>>6755448
Thanks guys, my problem was that I had animaze virtual camera still installed from when I was fiddling with it, I just had to go to Device Manager, then imaging devices then uninstalled it

>>6756953
You're welcome. Try to be less of a woman next time you mess with settings.

>>6755543
Plausible deniability senpai.
As long as you don't admit it, the worst people can do is speculate.

Unless you were drawing rl women being raped and murdered by nazis nobody is going to try and cancel you over it either.

>>6756953
Glad you got it sorted out. Audio is the bane of new streamers.

>>6756116
>>6756546
thanks anons, is there any like 'what to do/not to do' tips you can give in terms of design? ^^

>>6758457
>what to do
easy to recognize motif or design
if you're a woman, you'll be fine just going cute
if you're a man, don't hide your face
for both, be humanoid with a face that can convey expressions

>what not to do
be unique for the sake of unique like pic related

>>6758457
>is there any like 'what to do/not to do' tips you can give in terms of design?
What do you plan on going for? You cited Girls Frontline, are there any designs in there that you find particularly inspiring?

>>6755543
https://twitter.com/catboymech
Popular fat/feeding fetish and other extreme stuff artist, pretty successful vtuber. No one gives a fuck. at all. Even if you're a loli hentai artist, you know who will care? Other virtue signalling chuubas, and fuck what they think. They aren't your audience and viewers don't care.

Normal streamers don't put on costumes and use a cringe persona and they get in lots of viewers. Why don't you do the same? Whats wrong with having your VTuber character be a normal guy in a normal outfit with no stupid backstory or persona to play?

>>6763207
This desu. And why even use an avatar? You could just use a webcam and be a normal guy playing games in your room.

>>6763284
you use an avatar if you're ugly

>>6763207
>Whats wrong with having your VTuber character be a normal guy in a normal outfit with no stupid backstory or persona to play?
....nothing? you can make whatever design you want as a vtuber. leave /vt/ and stop giving a shit about what the cunts over in /wvt/ parrot about unique character models

>>6763207
>Cringe persona

Have... Have you watched normal streamers, anon?

>>6763207
You must not know anything about "normal streamers" then. Asmongold is one of the most popular ones on the platform and has a very, very cringe persona. The personas of large Twitch streamers that use one are just more grounded in reality.


Also Doctor Disrespect exists.

https://youtu.be/pTvqfslGSVg?t=12

>>6763207
Cause it's fun.

>>6763207
dont act like you watch normal streamers

>>6763207
I mean, there are some vtubers whose avatars are just "person in normal clothes"

>>6763207
Just be a character you enjoy being, it's that simple

>>6763207
most characters unless you're kongou are just "basically me but with a fantasy feel"
most people just make a character an extension of their own personality
even Dr Disrespect's character is just him taking his sweaty tryhard nature in games and blowing it up to extreme porportions

>>6745555
nothing for me

Dead hours.
Post designs.

>>6775849

>>6763207
Why be a human being when you can be an unhinged mad scientist goblin and release all your mental retardation at once?

>>6775849
No, instead I'll post a question. What does /asp/ think about buying pre-made designs? Not /here/ designs that were used before, or even a rig, but just buying the commercial rights for a character design for your chuuba (with a ref sheet drawn)?
My brain says 'no, people want it to be personal' but there's lots of people on toyhou.se who buy and sell OCs so I'm wondering if it would work.

>>6777682
feef bought a model off booth and is doing just fine
just make sure you aren't buying one that's overused in the EN community

>>6775867
Godot?!

>>6777682
Its kinda the same thing, don't you think? At the end of the day, which character you get depends on your own taste. There's thousands of them out there.
If you end up with something good or not is all up to you. There's just less waiting involved I guess.

>>6777943
I'm asking from the opposite end, in that I want to make character designs to sell. Should I bother making ref sheets for character ideas if it's an empty market is what I mean. I do at least know what makes a realistic or good vtuber design from being in the community at at least.

>>6778114
if that's the case why wouldn't you just do character design commissions if you have the skills for it?
make some to show off as a portfolio but then offer to design characters and make sense of people's requests into design sheets

from the times when someone has posted a model here for sale or for free, there have been very few takers because the intersection of what you want vs what it looks like is unlikely to cross

>>6778181
Because working with cilents is a fucking pain in the ass is why.
It's also more expensive for someone to buy a custom character design with revisions and trying to interpret what they want with the back and forth then to buy something I can come up with without interference.
But I do understand what you're saying, and that's what I'm looking for basically. Would you drop like $80 to get a full character ref now without having to design it yourself and wonder if it's a good design, or is it more important to be more personal, is the question.

>>6778860
no I would not pay for a premade design, I would want to design it and have feedback myself
if I wanted to pick something off the shelf I would just go to booth and pick a fully rigged model off the shelf and use it

>>6778929
Fair, thank you.

I've been productive with my PNG so far! Do you think neutral + happy, sad, and mad are enough? Should I add more? I'm worried about having too many to keep track of while streaming games.

>>6779000
What program are you using? Anyone vtuber?
In general those are the basic emotions you'd really need if you're not using the hotkeys much.

>>6779000
Should be good for now unless you can afford for more

>>6779046
>>6779092
I'm editing stock photos in photoshop, it looks awful but that's the best I can do. I hope it doesn't filter people but I'd like to think I'll be entertaining enough to keep viewers around despite it! Okay, thanks, I'll just keep those and start working on OBS configuration.

>>6777830
good thing i'm not the only one who thinks that

I was planning on streaming minecraft but I don't have it bought, is it okay if I stream a pirated version of it on twitch?

>>6781680
how would anyone know?

>>6781739
nickname maybe?

Gonna try a short stream again. Please stop by and give criticism on how to improve the channel.
https://www.twitch.tv/cuteanimeboyvr

>>6781817
Are you attempting to crawl up inside your own asshole?

>>6782095
VR tends to shit itself during the worse times.

>>6724292
>https://pastebin.com/2mkc8x9P
section 5.5
I believe google won the lawsuit, the search crop only applies to searches made inside EU.
so you still gotta scrub the info manually(send data deletion request to all sites that are hosting information about you)

>>6784907
You can intimidate lots of website by sending them a nicely written GDPR removal notice

>>6775867
Why did you show me mask off, you were so sexy...

I won't get a chance to stream consistently for another month or two, but I'm thinking of getting an avatar commissioned in the meantime

>>6786953
keep up your networking reps in the meantime

>>6786953
Stream inconsistently if you can. Practice makes perfect.

One of my viewers asked during today's stream if I wanted to collab on one of her favourite games soon. I checked out her profile, and she's got a bigger follower count, view count, and budget than me. 200 followers to my 40.

She's been really supportive during literally all my streams, constantly chatting... Do I have a gosling?
And do I have anything to lose by agreeing?

>>6788687
Why would you have anything to lose? Is she controversial?

Basedapoya just posted a quick summary of how to make your redeems automatic
https://twitter.com/BasedaPoya/status/1417217231029784578?s=19

>>6788832
Wow, didn't expect to see some software in the wild using scratch code blocks. That's a good idea

>>6788768
>controversial
Not in the slightest, I just don't get why she'd want to collab with me. Maybe it's just me being malehera, but it feels like there's got to be a catch here.

>>6789100
she enjoys your stream and probably you as a person it just happens anon go say yes to the collab and have fun with her

>>6788687
>>6789100
anon, some people just want to make friends on twitch, and follower counts like that are totally irrelevant. If it was a genuinely large channel (like at least 1k followers) then it'd probably be odd, but honestly it just sounds like she wants someone to game with.

You have literally nothing to lose, because even if things do go south (even though I guarantee they won't) at least you'll have a neat story to tell.

>>6788832
>Basedapoya
heh heh, everytime

>>6741566
I'm going live again, see tagged post.

Are there any market studies on English speaking vtuber fans? Also what are some good resources to take a first look at or become familiar with. Is this a numbefagging question I should take to the relevant thread? Please and thanks.

>>6792633
Numberfag would be the ones who knew if there were market studies. (But I doubt there would be?)
Also good resources to take a first look at getting familiar with being a vtuber or the numbers?

>>6794822
Good resources for the vtubers' numbers, such as demographics. I think some vtubers have looked at their analytics on stream but I'm not sure if there is a sort of repository that would spare me the time of picking through vtubers one by one and seeing if there are clips of them reviewing viewership data. I'll probably take this over to numberfag in a bit when I have the time.

>>6795681
Nope, no repository. Good idea though. Numberfags would know the corporate analytics back from when they were allowed to say them.

>>6796438
Thanks, I started looking at the Nijisanji application as a joke at first but the questions about target audience got me a bit interested in figuring out what the market truly looks like.

>>6796609
I'm fairly certain it's the high school to 20 something males which make up a majority of weeb and video game activities.

>>6789100
Sounds like they just genuinely like your streams, anon. Good job! Enjoy the collab if you decide to do it.

>>6799957
That much is obvious, but having more data sounds really nice. And just because one demographic dominates doesn't mean others don't matter at all. What if I want to know how many Yumejoshi I could try appealing to?

>>6799957
>I'm fairly certain it's the high school to 20 something males
give how /vt/ almost overtook /pol/ last night when Ame did her meme dances featuring mostly millennial songs, i'd say the audience is older than that. 20 somethings usually don't have the cash to drop akasupas, nor would they know songs like Carmeldansen

>>6724292
How reliable is fiver for riggers/3d modelers? I've got a few people in my PMs there and one seems alright.

I'm split between two characters I've created, I really thought I decided on one but then the concept art for the second came in and now I don't know. The 2nd one will be much more difficult to model and require advance knowledge. How did you guys decide your characters?

So I found an artist on twitter and they have their email for 'contacting' in their profile, but it doesn't list anything about commissions.

This artist is pretty well known, so do I send them an email for commission? Or do I not bother them?

>>6803219
Contact them and let them know what you're looking for. If they can/want to provide the service they'll probably ask you your budget.

>>6801493
I'm a mid-20-something and that was a popular meme when I was in middle school. I think it's more a weeb thing from that time. But maybe teen to early 30-somethings would be a slight better range, if even wider.

Kinda stunned I got a copyright match on one of my barbershop videos. A composition claim made on the melody. The video isn't monetized (neither is my channel), and it's not a strike against me, but just a little dumbfounded regardless. All the arrangements I've recorded on stream are ones that are freely available to use and distribute, too. Wild how the content bots can even match a melody being sung live without any backing track.

Anyone else have to deal with content match on any of their streams?

>>6805076
on Youtube or Twitch?

if it's on Twitch, they usually just mute the VOD and give you some time to just delete it before they hit your channel with any real negative consequences.

if it's on Youtube, just don't fight it, it's not worth the effort. the appeal process will take literal months and the rights holder can fuck you over in the end anyway.

>>6805076
That's pretty draconian. Sorry to hear that.

>>6805139
On Youtube. It says there's no action necessary, and I don't even need to mute the affected part of the video, it's just that any money from ad revenues on that video would go to the rights holder. Ironically, the completed quartet, which was also posted as a separate video, didn't hit any copyright claim, only the part of the livestream where I sang the melody did. Specifically, the claim says, "The Content ID claim on your video doesn't affect your channel. This is not a copyright strike." So I'm not too worried. If it keeps happening, then maybe I'd need to reconsider if I can even do my barbershop livestreams. Finished quartets don't seem to be an issue, at least.

>>6805144
It's alright, I shouldn't be surprised by it. I'm just pretty amazed that the bots are sophisticated enough that someone singing a melody can flag it.

>>6805252
>If it keeps happening, then maybe I'd need to reconsider if I can even do my barbershop livestreams. Finished quartets don't seem to be an issue, at least.
big reason why so many chuubas go the unarchived route to avoid issues. sucks though, sorry mate.

>>6805279
I was planning to go the unarchived route for karaoke streams, but I'm surprised any publisher cares enough about barbershop music to even bother with content ID, especially for something being recorded in real time. It's not like I was playing any reference recordings or anything.

Probably going to do a karaoke stream tomorrow to test that out though, will probably shill it here, since singing is probably what I'm best at anyways, and it would be nice to have people hang out and make requests.

>>6805076
Sorry for you personally, Barbanon, cause your streams are fun, but that also makes me worried for my own content. I was planning on singing folk songs that I had assumed were safe out in the public domain, but now I’m not so sure.

>>6805436
>I'm surprised any publisher cares enough about barbershop music to even bother with content ID, especially for something being recorded in real time
I'm surprised such a thing even falls under copyright, but I'm no lawyer and and I hate youtube's system out of pure instinct anyway.

>>6805496
that's the best part, because Youtube uses Content ID, they can side step copyright law entirely.

>>6805467
I think you should be safe. It's only a two minute portion of an hour and a half stream that got flagged, and none of the 8 quartets I've uploaded as individual videos have hit any match. And thanks for saying the streams are fun!

So any /asp/ies that have used or are using free models? I remember a guy I know using a model he found somewhere before getting a customized one, and this week I was scrolling through Twitch and found someone else using the same model. Not that it bothered me or anything, clearly a different person with different voice and whatnot, but I want to know if you are using free models or know someone who does.

>>6806641
none that i've seen. i know Feef from /wvt/ is using an $85 ish model from Booth, but otherwise, i don't know of anyone from /asp/ using a pre-made model (free or otherwise).

that being said, there's really nothing wrong with using a free model to start out. if that's what you need to give yourself that little push to start streaming and make content, more power to you.

>>6806784
I should have said pre-made models, my bad. My ESL is showing. I checked on Nizima and Booth for premade models, just out of curiosity, and there are some good ones as well as more affordable options. The pricier ones though I feel you should save that money for a custom one instead of a premade, but that's just my opinion.

What would you guys say are major pitfalls a lot of vtubers fall into from the get go?

>>6807609
Not having any draw besides „Vtuber plays X“

>>6807609
turning into a vtweeter

>>6807635
any place to -avoid- getting your rig done? I'm on fiver and about to pull the trigger but 350 is a good chunk of change to just drop.

>>6807609
Not having enough life experience or knowledge in specific areas to hold audiences with interesting and humorous stories.

>>6807737
I don't really know if that's necessary as long as you are interesting and humorous at your base. Most vtubers aren't exactly known for being worldly wise.

>>6807694
I just used the Twitter rigging list. I found it a little more reliable. The problem with fiverr is that you can easily steal other peoples work and pass it off as your own.

Check the reviews, make sure the artist has some kind of social media so they can't ghost you, maybe reach out to one of there kids and see if they enjoyed working with the artist?

>>6807609
Expecting to make it big immediately.

If you're male, and don't have the art buff, you'll need to grind more to get anywhere. But it's more consistent - I'm getting more followers and viewers each and every stream, even if those numbers are still low in comparison.

>>6808113
Do you have a specific gimmick, or do you just have a high quality stream? I can’t think of something original beyond keyfabe and I feel that’s the thing that holds me back.

>>6808206
I have a bigger plan. I have some connections I plan on pulling little-by-little. Who knows if anything will come of it though. First step is to get the rig made.