/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>67475951
Go back cuck enjoyer

>>67475951
If anything they need to be more vocal about it

>>67475951
they were quite subtle since they didn't specifically address it and merely avoided the topic when it came up.

>>67475951
I wish my nice baubaus didn't have to deal with your bullshit, I really do

>>67475951
All sisters should have sex

>>67475951
But it was so funny, they froze up like a deer in headlights.

>>67476204
>, they froze up like a deer in headlights.
They did it on purpose tho
They prolly thought "fuck these faggots. Why are they even here. I wish death upon all males."

>>67476124
it wasn't remotely subtle, that shit immediately turned awkward because bae was the only one talking, ina was just going "h-haha..." and both of them were pretending they weren't there.

>>67476124
They shouldn't just continued making dumb noises with "ohh" and "wow". Abruptly stopping made it sus

What controversy?

>>67477548
moco deadnamed altare

>>67475951
Ignoring the homos only brought controversy from people who do not watch the homos stream at all.
Acknowledging the homos would've made everything much worse. This is a business you get into to make as much money from your audience as possible. And if anyone has problem then they should unsubcribe from them and go support holostars instead of seething. It's ironic they complain about the dogs when none of those people even tune to the homos.

>>67477548
Shitstirrers think they can make drama because fuwamoco didn't make noises when the homos were on the tele

>>67477548
see the timestamp yourself
>>67471516

>>67477646
>Acknowledging the homos would've made everything much worse.
nah people wouldn't even have noticed
People only noticed because they created an awkward situation by suddenly going radio silent when homos appeared

>>67477238
I heard them saying the girls names as they appeared though. They weren't completely silent.

>>67475951
They did what needed to be done.
And for that I will subscribe to them because they're too based not to.

>>67477934
And why they went radio silence? Because they knew what would happen if they just played along. They know their fans are mentally ill to kick up a stink over it.

>>67475951
great, now beggars are gonna harass them until they wind up only streaming for jops like irys

The only controversy is in the minds of troons browsing /vt/. Nobody sane cares and people just move on.

Sisters are seething and they're trying to sound like they're chill

>>67475951
>Literally speak nothing
>Hared
you are mentally ill

>>67475951
>unicorns are le evil!!!! let the talents do whatever they want to do!!
>but not if they dont like homos

>>67478176
and yet homobeggar keep making thread like this.
Who are actually mentally ill???

>>67476124
That's not very subtle how they were talking one second, went dead silent when Holostars appeared, and started talking again when there were no more Holostars visible. It was as if they were programmed to mute themselves when their visual cortex detects a Holostar member.

>gone silent because they dont even know a single homo
>homobeggar : AIIEIEIEIEIEIEIEI They hate DA BOIS
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>67478383
Both of you unicorns and homobeggars are mentally ill. Seek help

They are old enough to know what they are doing; they purposefully chose to have a target on their back.

>>67477932
>>67477932
>>67477932
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_kZ1WSpJBg&t=2831s
Ok but thats funny as shit
Only people even acknowledging them are the usual suspects

>>67475951
Theyre literally just silent and your transexual brain gets offended by it

>>67475951
Gura fought for their rights to take a long break, FuwaMoco just followed her senpai's example. She saw a chance to make a statement and fight this forcefeeding nonsense and she took it.

They are the chosen ones. The chuubas that unichads have been waiting for!!! KNEEL!!

>>67478176
>>67475951
the only controversies are homobeggars like you guys sperging out.

>>67475951
No, they don't.
They're working directly with JAP to create a new world.

God I hate unicorns

>>67475951
We got a cute stream, and the only thing some of you think about are the homos, even though they appeared for barely any time. Like fucking hell, did you even watch it?

>>67478430
Good dogs.

>>67475951
On the contrary, we need mkre vtubers luke them.

999th thread just today about this nothingburger, great work jannies

>>67477548
they went quiet by sucking my dick when homos were shown

>>67475951
>supporting homos
nope

>>67476565
>I wish death upon all males
i blame Pero, hes fucking nasty

Imagine being a Ruffian and you pass the next stars audition to join Hololive, only for your oshi to completely ignore you

>>67475951
>but they need to be more subtle
if they say out loud that they dislike the homos i will gift 50 memberships

>>67475951
Ignoring the homos is the very basis of avoiding controversies

>>67483620
>Imagine being a Ruffian and you pass the next stars audition to join Hololive, only for your oshi to completely ignore you
Imagine being a Stephen Curry fan and you join the WNBA to play ladies' basketball for the NBA Board of Governors, only for your oshi to completely ignore you

>>67484352
Why host a promotional stream about them then?

>>67477646
>This is a business you get into to make as much money from your audience as possible
this is genuinelly sad to read
when did Holofrens lose their way?
when did they forget that watching streamers should be for fun?

>>67485676
because they love hololive and management loves FuwaMoco.
The stars are not Hololive.

Who the hell cares?

>>67486321
Since theres nonstop seethe threads about it, I'd say this entire fucking board cares.
They were quiet for 10 seconds it's not that big a deal.

>Imagine being a Stephen Curry fan
No. KD is better.

>>67486432
You have to understand that FWMC has been hyped in this board a lot, so antis had this need to shitpost about them from the beginning. Problem is, they gave them nothing to work with, so they are willing to push even a Nothingburger to a ridiculous degree. They are that desperate.

>>67478430
>It was as if they were programmed to mute themselves when their visual cortex detects a Holostar member.
based

Even if you hate Stars and ignore how rude this was, it really can't be understated how unprofessional it was, especially for a Japanese company. Even Lamy, one of the most unicorn-friendly Holos, acknowledged Stars when touring the Fes floor a few years back in a passively supportive way. This is honestly more egregious than basically any other negative event involving Hololive/Stars interactions because it can easily be seen as actively malicious toward coworkers (yes, they are coworkers even if they never have and never will interact on or off-stream) which is a HUGE no-no in Japanese corpos. More egregious than some girls being explicit in not collabing, more than Aki not knowing Uyu, more than Irys getting almost baited into saying their names, maybe even more than Kiara's "bummer I guess". Hell, it's worse than Gura seeing Stars names in Minecraft and quickly turning the camera away because at least there was plausible deniability to that, but there is none here when a million containment breakers are clogging up the comment section with a high amount of likes. This is forever what FWMC's fanbase will be seen as and that could absolutely cause problems down the line. If they are that averse to Stars in general and can't keep things even a little bit cordial, then don't invite them to advertise HoloPRO event that has NEVER been exclusively Hololive.

>>67487826
>yes, they are coworkers
Stopped reading right there. They literally aren't coworkers at all.

>>67487826
They've been doing this since day one, so I'm not sure why you're seething about it now lmao
Also
>they ARE coworkers
No. They literally aren't coworkers.
Calling Hologirls and Holostars coworkers is like calling employees of two separate chain restaurants "coworkers" just because their restaurants are owned by the same parent company.
The girls are all coworkers. The boys are all coworkers. The girls are NOT the boys' coworkers and should not be forced or encouraged to ever acknowledge them if they don't want to. Thankfully, FuwaMoco understands this and will continue doing what theyve done since debut.
It's just that simple.

>>67475951
stupid thread

>>67475951
Should have made retarded noises like Ina instead of muting

This was the funniest shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7snzVlgMUps&t=1236

>>67488101
>>67488324
They work for the same company and are advertised in the same events, that is by definition coworkers. A janitor and a teacher at a school are coworkers even if they never interact. There are Hololive girls that have never interacted with each other as well, so by your logic they aren't coworkers either when that's never how it worked.
>They've been doing this since day one, so I'm not sure why you're seething about it now lmao
What they've been doing since day 1 has had plausible deniability (outside of unfollowing the Stars account, but that wasn't widespread). This is pretty overt. You don't go from happily oohing and ahing to just pure silence then BACK to oohing and ahing when more girls show up. It's not like this is the first time Stars imagery was thrust upon Unicorn Holos. Tempus was shown in the vicinity of Miko and she was cordial. Stars was shown in the vicinity of Lamy and she was cordial. Fauna, Mumei and Bae all watched a Stars song and were cordial/supportive. Apathy with a tinge of passive support like what Noel, Miko, or even Kiara has done in the past can be handwaved. This really can't.

>>67476124
They should have said "Fuck these homos"

>>67488806
Anon stfu. Please. You're planting dangerous oshihen thoughts into my head. I haven't even watched the dogs that much and I have the urge to member them now.

>>67483620
If you join the stars hoping to interact with your oshi then you deserve to be ignored
unless your oshi is someone like Bae, Towa or matuli in which case whatever

>>67488806
>Fauna was cordial/supportive
anon, she literally talked about anything else (including literally sending her model to the abyss) every time they were on screen
she was an unsubtle as FWMC and immediately got interested again when it was the girl units back on stage

>>67489450
She spilled her water. Unless you think that was on purpose, but if so, there's still plausible deniability there.

>>67488806
No they aren't and I explained why. I wish you homobegging retards would stop with this shit.
The stars are not Hololive.
The dogs don't need to placate them or the homobeggars.

>>67489712
The Stars are Holopro. Holofes is a Holopro event, not a Hololive event. When you're a commentator on the event, your job is to advertise the event. If you are unwilling to advertise part of the roster, then don't be a commentator for the event.

>>67475951
Homobeggars can leave now, thanks ! They won't be missed...in fact we won't even see they're gone

>>67477934
You're fucking retarded and delusional if you actually think that "noone would have noticed." I am 100% sure if the dogs acknowledged the homos, even briefly, some unwashed sister would make endless bait thread calling them out on it.
Either choice would have had consequences, but they did what they did and in my opinion they have chosen the lesser evil. Bau bau.

>>67475951
they don't want to avoid controversy. everyone who was their fans or would want to support them thought what they did was based as fuck

Based faggot haters

>>67475951
I blame the management here, badly planned slideshow.

>>67491458
Passive acknowledgement would not have reached outside of /here/ in the same way Noel commenting on Rikka's stream didn't or when Moona brought up the music video she and Mori were in when FWMC were there. Ever hear of the Streisand Effect? That's basically what's happening now with the dogs. People that normally wouldn't take notice suddenly are, so congrats on a new culture war starting when it could have easily been kept out of sight and out of mind.

wheres proof of the mute? usually theirs a catbox by now

>>67492572
The culture war was always there, you faggots just try to sweep it under.

>>67475951
They avoid controversies by sending clear message about homos. There won't be any future controversies if Cover listens to them.

>>67492572
You are the ones who invented culture war. People were trying to ignore it but niggers like you keep pushing more, give an inch, you take a mile. It's time for retaliation.

>>67490435
Fuck off. Holostars aren't responsible for even 1% of the success. They don't deserve being there.

>>67475951
I thank them for actually showing that they're NOT actually being genuine in everything they do aside from chasing the bags

>>67492913
>implying any vtuber is not chasing the bag
you one of those people who delude themselves into thinkin some 1view or 2view or indie is doing it out of passion?

>less than a week ago sisters were shitposting that fuwamoco would start doing male collabs after fuwamoco said "to achieve our dreams we might have to do things ruffians don't like"
>this fucking happens
lol

>>67493094
right but let's be real here, there's a good number of talents who are more business oriented than the others and very clearly stream with the intent of making as much money as possible.
step back a bit and you'll come to the realization that to those, you're just a wallet who can type lol

>>67492572
real, this shit wouldnt happen if the dogs wasnt such spergs

For years I was just a clip watcher, mainly because i cant understand any Japanese, and no way I would debase myself and watch EN whores/lazy bums.

Now they based dogs made me into a stream watcher finally. If they keep being this based I might do the unthinkable, spend money on a vtuber.

I've literally havent spent a single penny on any streamer ever.

>>67493282
>good number
anon all of them are business oriented and you are a retard if you think otherwise
nobody is more or less business oriented since everybody is playing the game and the only one that lose are retards like you who think you oshi is less business oriented because he or she loves her fanbase
>you're just a wallet who can type lol
im actually proud of being a big wallet since i actually managed to do meetups with some of the lower groomable ones

>>67475951
They need to be less subtle so I can have a good laugh.

>>67494933
spend some of that money on english lessons please, i wanted to throw up reading this slop

>>67494977
I mean, atleast you're self aware.
but your premise is flawed because if that were the case, everyone would be grooming parasocial fans and doing constant GFE/BFE, but only some do.
what they get from me is hours watched as background noise while I work.

'ate collabbeggars
'ate faggots
'ate trannies
love me bau baus.

>>67475951
It's weird how so many people are patting them on the back for ignoring the Holostars but they were practically almost cumming from doing the Sasuke watchalong and seeing all the Japanese macho men competitors.

>>67495554
seethe beggar tranny faggot cuck

>>67495632
>no argument
hahahahaha

>>67495458
>but your premise is flawed because if that were the case, everyone would be grooming parasocial fans and doing constant GFE/BFE, but only some do.
thats the thing you have been deluded into thinking that gfe/bfe only exists as one type (rushia type) when theres infinite ways to do it without anyone noticing
saddes part is that people will fall for it and think they are not in that trap when they already are
>what they get from me is hours watched as background noise while I work.
ah then you are basically a worthless viewer whose opinion doesnt matter then

>>67495724
there's no arguement to be had. Collabbeggars are trannies and faggots trying to subvert and destroy all of vtubing because they hate objective beauty and love guzzling homo cum and cucking themselves due to self hatred. They are evil demons and need to be killed with cleansing fire. If you watch male vtubers rope yourself NOW.

>>67495554
thats the thing
despite all of the sasuke and macho men the holostars are actually much faggier than those
the fact that they need to cling to women in order to try and have a modicum of success speaks volumes of how much of a fag they are

and yes, they ARE my girlfriends.

>>67495554
Japanese macho men = high value men
homostars = low value leeches
Hope that clears things up for you.

>>67493168
I forgot about that.
FWMC has been getting a lot of good shitposting recently.

>>67495935
>high value men
none of them could finish and win the competition

>>67495935
>homostars = low value leeches
so why you worried then

>>67475951
I’m glad they were not more subtle, it shined a spotlight on the fact that the girls are being forced to shill the homos, and now more fans then ever are fed up with it

>>67495750
right, I watch their full streams instead of just clips and timestamps, but because I don't holodex multistream and dump my wallet to everyone I'm worthless, my mistake.

>>67496201
nah you are worthless not because you dont watch it in holodex but because you use a stream as background noise
you are actually more worthless than a clipwatcher

>>67496131
>so why you worried then
pic related
if you know your history its the reason why stars got a massive backlash and has a stigma

>>67496131
so you'd just let a leech live on your body and get it's fill? typical cuck behavior. You people are everything wrong with the world.

>>67492572
No you retard nobody watched that mori stream. It had like 70k views with nearly 10 people most of their fans didn’t watch it, most of en didn’t watch it didn’t even generate a clip. How could it cause problems if no one knew about it and in the case of Noel she’s made her stance known years ago. No collabs and she won’t bring them up on her own but she’s a good girl so she won’t be rude if it is brought up.

>>67495155
They had like one typo, and it was a small one. If you couldn’t interpret what they meant, then you may be suffering from brain damage

>>67494933
You literally sound like a Redditor with the right keywords swapped in

>>67496844
if you think there was only one typo you might be ESL too. or brain damage

>>67496131
If you let low value people interact with high value people you only get the corruption and debasement of high value people into low value people. This is why you need to keep them separate before they debase and degrade your group.

>>67497068
>low value people interact with high value people you only get the corruption and debasement of high value people into low value people.
but chuubas interact with their fas?

>>67497341
fans are kept separate from chuubas, homostars want to belong to the same in-group as them, it's different

>>67497068
>>67497461
I'm more worried about your self-worth issues than anything else now anon.

>>67478743
i think dramasisters are reading into it a little too much
but this is pretty funny

>>67495554
I'd let Makoto Nagano fuck my oshi, honestly.

They are so fucking based it hurts. I never donate to vtubers but I will membership and supa to them now.

>>67496679
That's not the point of the comment, he's saying that no one outside of vt cares about this stuff, even this current "drama" is being barely talked about outside of here and that comment section full of containment breakers.

Is this "drama" going to last? Or is It gonna die after a few hours?

>>67498392
This is one of those "/vt/ is only talking about this because we're bored, estrogen filled cunts desperate for any gossip" type of dramas. So the latter.

>>67498392
The "drama" ends when the last sister finally joins the 41%.

>>67490435
Only management believes that, the rest of the fanbase hasn't accepted it. Fuck off.

>>67475951
>If they acknowledge the Homos: AAAAAA FUWAMOCO BETRAYED US AAAAAAAAAAA
Damned if they do...
>If they didn't acknowledge the Homos: AAAAAAAAA THEY'RE SO UNPROFESSIONAL AAAAAAAA
... damned if they don't.
This board, seriously

>>67499050
It's not this board. It's only sisters. They are the only ones who would be making both of those threads. The first, because they always trumpet their "wins" and their whole goal is to make everyone who isn't them. The second because they are bitches used to bitching into getting their way.

>>67475951
they just didn't remember the names of the boys

>>67483620
Good, as it should be, any ruffians who are joining to meet their oshis should be ignored

>>67485676
Because it wasn’t about them? They showed up for like 2 minutes

>>67492913
>noo, you can’t do what your fans want and try to make them happy, that just means you’re chasing money

>>67492795
BAU BAU!

>>67487826
>>67488806
>>67490435
FUCK OFF

>>67480133
Our time has come.

Isn’t it funny that cover uses the hololive name to promote the boys, but not the homostars name to promote the girls? I don’t even blame the homos at this point, whoever at cover is in charge is just fucking braindead

> female dogs
> suprised when they act like literal bitches

Are they retarded? Why even attend the event if they were going to pull that stunt? There is no way they didn’t know who was attending.

>>67502505
?

>>67502494
Of course this faggot made a video on it

>>67502494
No, it's very logical
you use the most famous name to promote your product, that's marketing 101

>>67492913
leoforpez pls

>>67502943
Yeah but what if… you just dissolved the unfamous name, and put the boys under the “hololive” name officially. Wouldn’t that help them more?

>>67502494
>good coworker relationship
Holostars and Hololive have the same relationship as Taco Bell and Pizza Hut. They don't need to have a "good relationship with their coworkers" if they're not going to see or talk to them for their entire careers. If unicorns are "schizos" then homobeggars have the same level of delusions as Don Quixote

>>67477331
It was much more pleasant to watch when they stopped making retarded noises.

>>67475951
qrd?

>>67503159
Both work for the same company and answer to the same board and CEO, they are coworker by definition, no mater how much you seethe

>>67475951
Being superior isn't a controversy.

Professionalism would have been not including an unwanted branch into a commercial, it is horrible market placement, and a desperate, sweaty attempt to salvage a failed investment. Forcing people who have clear aversion towards that investment into the shill stream and surprising them with something they clearly want to distance themselves from isn't just borderline abuse of power, but could probably be attacked as sexual harassment due to the nature of the ad itself, which showed unsolicited half-naked men to women.

>>67475951
This was such a power move. Like not standing up during anthem or whatever the analogy would be.

They were mandated to be there, but stood their ground and did not make a sound. This takes guts. I had a lot of respect for them before, but this was amazing.

DOGS I KNEEL.

>>67503055
still needs a clear distinction like Holojp and HoloEn

>>67502494
>Invite actual idoldykes
>Be surprised when they go dead silent when males on screen
These beggars still manage to impressive me.

>>67505687
All it did was draw battle lines and put a target on their backs. The stupid dogs should’ve just lived in a bubble like a majority of EN.

>>67475951
I mean just going ooh aah wow ooh aah is fine and non committal, it's what they did with the rest when honestly they didn't care either. The weird thing is that there are people that think obvious grifting is a good thing. Actual people that want to be lied to and deceived, even when it's too obvious, and they're too craven to just act normal and disinterested.

If your girl doesn't talk about other guys that's probably a good sign. If she acts like other men don't exist even after being prompted then she's cheating on you and manipulating you for financial gain. It's that simple.

>>67505687
They weren't mandated to comment on it. If anything they were mandated to not respond to it because they know what you're like. That takes weird and manipulative cowardice: don't worry everything is fine, and don't pay attention to the man behind the curtain, he's not real.

You: Wow this is just like a protest at personal risk or standing up to a tank.

>>67507896
Least delusional homobegging cuck.

>>67502494
>I wish Fuwamoco would have just ignored the fake fans and had fun with the boys
That's such a homobeggar message.
also
>not capitalizing Moco in FuwaMoco
It's same as with IRyS.

>>67508180
Is that your most recent narrative, sister?

>>67502494
The girls don't need promotion from these shitters. For all the fucking fuss and drama about homocucks people still refuse to watch them.

>>67487826
Great, so who do you replace them with in Advent? No one in Advent will acknowledge your homos. The most you might get is Shiori telling a chilling anecdote about her childhood

>>67495554
They hate homos, not men. Think Pekora level.

>>67509035
3view is good for a male vtuber but you're still right, promoting them hasn't done shit and Cover still can't get it through their heads after 2 years.

Reading the thread, got worried for a second but it's a nothingburger that only the schizos care about, carry on.

>>67475951
No they don't, they protected my smile

>>67509384
>Nothing burger
>Dramatubers reporting on it

>>67495554
if your wife started cumming over some random celebrity you'd be fine

if your wife started cumming over her male coworker, you'd be worried

>>67509599
That's...quite possibly one of the better analogies I've read on this board. Usually idiots here have a hard time articulating things but you made it perfectly relatable.

>>67475951
There's no need. Some people just need to learn to respect their collab choices.

FUWAMOCO RATIO!
BAU BAU!

>>67509599
>A Vtuber
>your wife
really ?

>>67510078
it's as real as anything else in my life

>>67510078
>concerned with real
>/vt/ - Virtual YouTubers

>>67510078

>>67486321
Homobeggars, apparently

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNHhfjrUeTQ

This is a reminder to pay the fuck up if you want your supas read. Those "same 8 people" understand the assignment. FWMC understands the assignment. When are you going to understand the cost? Don't be a faggot like this cuck. Pay for your personal Bau Baus

>>67475951
They're too blunt with their homo hate
it'll turn away genuine normies and all they'll have is unicorns; who make up a much smaller number

But, they probably only care about money anyway so oh well

>>67511193

>>67511537
>But, they probably only care about money anyway so oh well
they've made it very clear they only want to protect people's smiles (faggots aren't people)

>>67511879
dehumanizing others for the sake of unicorn pandering isn't protecting people's smiles

>>67511879
>Calls others faggots
>Thinks about other men and their peepees twenty-four/Seven
Kekaroo.

>>67475951
I literally gave up on EN speaking women having any kind of standard and firmly believed they were all whores just chasing chad and money. FWMC has shaken this belief, I don't know whether to thank them or curse them.

>>67512025
that's some impressive projection

>>67511997
>not pretending to give a fuck is dehumanizing
topkek

>>67512297
There's a different between not pretending to give a fuck and pretending they dont exist

>>67499050
The difference is, one of these two sides actually watch their streams, and it should be kept that way. Gatekeeping is good, no fandom need shit stirrers.

>>67512025

>>67508739
You go to a store and the clerk is overly friendly and pays you tons of compliments, and says how well the clothes suit you. You think they're just really nice, that you must be charismatic, and that you probably look amazing in those new clothes as you cough up more cash than you planned to spend. In reality they were just using typical up-selling techniques. Someone explains this to you and you get angry and defensive because you don't want to believe you're so easily manipulated, and call the person jaded and unkind unlike the store clerk. In reality this is a response to cognitive dissonance because deep down you understand you got manipulated, but can't cope with making the proper mental adjustments. Others know but don't bother telling you because they know it's pointless, you either realize it yourself, or you keep doubling down.

It's the same thing.

>>67490435
Holofes is a hololive event. It’s only the expo that is holopro.

>>67512464
Not really

>>67512557
>>67512273
>Is that a man? In the same vicinity as my oshi? THEY’RE HAVING SEX BEHIND THE SCENES! I KNOW IT! MEN AND WOMEN CANNOT INTERACT WITHOUT IT RESULTING IN SEX!
This is literally (you).

>>67475951
What controversy? All their fans love them even more for doing that.

>>67513079
Nah thats you

>>67513079
If you work fulltime, went to college, or go out on weekends with groups you'd know this is actually what happens 80% of the time.
>nuh-uh
Congratulations, you're the 3rd wheel.

>>67507896
>If she acts like other men don't exist even after being prompted then she's cheating on you and manipulating you for financial gain
Mental illness

>>67513079
these girls respect idol culture, as do their fans. it's as simple as that, but feel free to keep seething about it

I was just indifferent to homobeggers before but this “controversy” is fucking pathetic.

>>67513655
It's just reality. Even nuns know men exist and don't pretend otherwise.

>>67513655
>t. never dealt with real women
im sorry bro, you're in denial

>>67513676
You don't know what idol culture is. Neither of us do. You will never be Japanese.

>>67502494
The comment section is filled with people screaming about how the girls were "forced" to do it by unicorns. Yet there is no unicorn posts mentioned showing this.
God I feel like beggars are even more unhinged than the unicorns.

>>67513676
No they don't. They weren't great idols, but idols are expected to interact with men on stage and during shows all the time. They were really bad idols too which is probably why they became vtubers.

>>67515211
I don't think most people genuinely believe they were forced to do anything. But the "men are easy, just be nice to them" quote that gets thrown out a lot is pretty accurate in this situation. Men are easy, as in, it's obvious what they want, they're not subtle or nuanced, and you can just lie to them and the more you lie the happier they are. Pandering to a certain audience of unhinged western men is not a great feat of intelligence and insight. But it does raise questions and pretending like they didn't make that choice themselves is just cope.

incel pandering is kinda cringe desu

Honestly I think maybe the best solution is for Holostars to be a totally different company. It's the only way you'll stop babies from crying about them talking to the girls. Or do what vshojo does and eschew the idol shit completely by putting boys in the main branch as well.

>>67516749
>vshojo does and eschew the idol shit completely by putting boys in the main branch as well.
I believe you can also watch Nijisanji for that experience.
But yes, the Homostars would achieve the most success by ceasing to leech on the CGDCT brand of Hololive and at least pretend to be their own thing.

>>67502494
Why is this fag everywhere?

>>67475951
I heard they ignored Holostars. Glad to know they belong to ruffians dick only!

Incels and unicorns are the main reason VTubing is slowly dying. They turn working as a VTuber from being fun and exiting to constanly having to walk through eggshells. Its honestly repelent to both the viewers and the streamer.

>>67477932
WTF now I'm a Ruffian

>>67520380
that only happen to chubas that court that audience, those that don't give a fuck still do OK

>>67520380
>They turn working as a VTuber from being fun and exiting to constanly having to walk through eggshells.

That's basically every kind of popular streamer, it's an inherent part of that line of work.

People can bitch about drama or doxxing or stalking or parasocial relationships all they want, but they're just the downsides of being a popular streamer and it's shit that they have to handle themselves. People throwing a bitchfit about it isn't going to stop it or save them.

>>67521466
no but, making inceldom warrant for the death penalty will

>>67478743
lmao

>>67520380
Nah you faggots pushing your culture war into everything is why vtubers are dying. Everything was better before Tempus.

>>67475951
Crap I missed the show, fucking IRL job and everything. What just happened? Give link to stream or clip please.

>>67522135
Well that would just kill the entire streaming industry

>>67522700
https://www.youtube.com/live/B_kZ1WSpJBg?si=sPZmMU-h7tJjXFaS&t=2835

Pretty funny

>Have the girls promote the boys heavily to their own detriment
>Combines the Hololive EN and Holostars EN twitters into one entity
>Suddenly do a 180 and build a huge fucking wall between them
>HOLOLIVE HAS GROWN STRONGER >:3
>Months of barely any interaction with the boys even with their biggest supporters among the EN girls
>Suddenly have the EN girls in promo material with the boys
Why is Cover so fucking schizophrenic??? Either separate them or don't.

>>67522485
Tempus or any male vtuber in general has nothing to do with this its not a sin wanting to have fun with chat behind a cute/handsome/sexy anime model neither they should suffer bc some lonely men have no luck or skill with women and vent their frustrations on male vtubers just because they are coworkers with female ones that they like and honestly pandering to those kind of men its toxic on itself if you allow that you will start to be more and more demanding each day dont try to deny it.

>>67524514
>you will start to be more and more demanding each day
All they want is CGDCT. That's it. Nothing else. Meanwhile you sisters lose your shit if everyone doesn't gobble down the homos cocks at every opportunity.

>>67507708
As opposed to what? Cheering on homos? And that wouldn't put a target on their back by anti unicorn sisters?
They literally didn't do anything wrong, they upset people that wouldn't even watch them in the first place as opposed to having constant falseflagging towards their fanbase that they love homos. They send a clear message to their fans, who gives a shit about "muh professionalism", when was cover ever professional about anything? They keep shoving homos down our throats unprofessionally, why would a vtuber be professional in an unprofessional company?

>>67475951
>if they want to avoid controversies
LMAO
Drama always attracts numbers, they know what they are doing

>>67524687
>All they want is CGDCT.
That's all the entire Hololive fanbase wants, even the people that don't sperg out about Holostars collabing don't want to watch them or give a fuck about them in general.

Cover is just retarded, gaslighting part of their consumer base by advertising to a demographic that doesn't even exist in the first place for years.

>>67520380
>VTubing is slowly dying
It has never been as popular as of now.

>>67475951
Hey, at least we get to fuck our oshis while you don't sister. Kill yourself, or better yet, get raped somewhere