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Pic related was an additional comment made by Cover's HoloEN twitter when the first audition for Holo EN rolled out in early 2020. It clearly states interest for English speaking Holostars candidates next to the Hololive ones. But as we all know nothing ever came out of it. And even Nijisanji who is known for their mixed gens, where males even became a steady pillar for the company, has rolled out applications for male EN vtuber fairy only very recently with a potential debut to be expected late 2021 at the earliest, more likely early 2022. And outside of this, it becomes really bleak. None of the known EN start-ups seem to have male vtubers, some of them clearly stating they also don't have an interest to do so.

While it's quite certain that female characters are more popular due to a mainly male target audience and therefore generally much easier to market, what does the other side look like? Is the pool of potential male candidates with sufficient entertainment value who could decently pull of a male character of whatever type while also retaining a decent attitude (not too menhera or prone to yabs) really that small? Not even looking at male EN indies only, but literally any scene or hobby that could be tangentially related or of interest. Is a lack thereof the reason why pic related never happened?

>> No.6734189

can't wait to see holostar EN to fuck my oshi yeah

>> No.6734231

>>6734189
I'm going to fuck your oshi and there's nothing you can do about it

>> No.6734327

Tweet in question for Holostars EN:
https://twitter.com/hololive_en/status/1253558088692461568

>> No.6734332

it's probably a lack of viable candidates. if you're a male streamer, you're probably a terrible person. i can't think of a single male twitch streamer who wouldn't destroy the cover brand

>> No.6734465

>>6734149
> Is the pool of potential male candidates with sufficient entertainment value who could decently pull of a male character of whatever type while also retaining a decent attitude (not too menhera or prone to yabs) really that small?
yes
I'll watch the males in NijiEN a bit when they debut but my expectations are very low.

>> No.6734520

It's only there to not sound discriminatory, an english Gen in holostars would kill off holostars as a whole until they get a sufficently stable JP following

>> No.6734532
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6734532

>>6734149
>april 2020
Yea no
Also
>wanting to join Holostars just so Hololive can fuck you over more than being an indie
There's literally no viable reason to become a holostar.
You don't get Hololive buff, you don't get exposure, you don't get marketing, you get all sorts of boundaries and are forbidden from doing a lot of stuff, including collabs, playing majority of games (enjoy your life of apex and minecraft).
Fuck, if I was forced to become a holostar I'd probably an hero during my debut stream

>> No.6734795

>>6734149
Majority of the fandom would love this outside the /vt/ bubble but agree with the other person till jp holostars get a decent following i dont see them getting someone as they would instantly outshine them.

>> No.6734829

>>6734189
People are already fucking your oshi. Why would adding one more make a difference

>> No.6734918

Too risky of a move unless they wanna completely fuck over stars jp more than they already have. I’m surprised they didn’t off that branch a long time ago.

>> No.6734939

American male vtubers don't take it seriously and also have no skill or talent. American male streamers are walking drama machines. Just get an English speaking Japanese or Korean guy.

>> No.6734981

There's no point in having holostars who don't live in Japan because it will be difficult for YAGOO to fuck them

>> No.6735015

>>6734939
The reason males streamers dominate the western world is because they dont care how serious they are. They want a bro who's just having fun

>> No.6735059

>>6734532
>Not wanting to mog the entirety of Holostars numbers just to make a statement

>> No.6735198

>>6734981
Yagoo flew to indonesia in the middle of worldwide lockdown, he'll find a way

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>>6734327
>those comments
That is why we will never get HolostarsEN

>> No.6735323

>>6735015
That pretty much fits nijisanjis vibe though, like down to a T in nijiJP so I’m sure they’ll be a perfect fit in NijisanjiEN

>> No.6735330

>>6734149
when holostars EN comes out i fear for holostars JP. EN is definitly gong to surpass them in views and subs in the short time they are out. HolostarsJP is gonna be on suicide watch

>> No.6735363

Do you really want a HolostarsEN when you see how they treat the jp branch? Expect them to get throw in their own ghetto where they can’t collab with the girls and don’t get any support.

>> No.6735377

Niji EN Males are going to overshadow Holostars EN it's already given at this point.

>> No.6735406

>>6735330
They'd probably beat them in preloaded subs before even making a debut.

>> No.6735468

male youtubers appeal is a bit different from what holo live sells

funny male streamers seem to be the most viewed and profitable, you just need to do the same thing someone like pewdpie but vtuber.

>> No.6735510

>>6735468
This... they would need to copy the western way for a male. If they keep the status quo why bother trying

>> No.6735529

>>6735363

the american audience is going to be more receptive to the holostars boys then their jp counterparts. plus youll have the en girls shilling the boys (especially calli and ame who support their genmates a lot)

>> No.6735619

>>6735529
This. Collabs wouldn't be treated the same as the culture isnt the same. He'd be absolutely hated by japs though and probably make rest of holostars jealous and make the unfair treatment more apparent

>> No.6735717

>>6735015
Too bad none of the male streamers are like that.
Literally all the popular male streamers in the normie sphere are angry spergs who shout and throw things at the smallest shit. Its pathetic and I can't stand them.

Nijimales do it right, they're just chill dudes.

>> No.6735804

>>6734149
How do other English countries even think about male streamers. Americans and Canadians would love them but isnt Europe feelings more like japs

>> No.6735854

>>6735717
Bias aside Still the top 10 in the world is like 75% male.

>> No.6735930

>>6735323
Dont watch nijisanji so ill to have take your word on it. Sounds like they need to copy them

>> No.6735981

>>6735854
Not saying the top streamers aren't male, but they're still fucking cringe spergs I despise watching.

>> No.6736140

>>6735981
I know but thats a bias and still puts you in a minority. I dont watch any streamers but hololive but im not gunna ignore the reality of it. They obviously appeal to a very very large group of people. Regardless unless something changes i dont see holostarEN happening

>> No.6736172

>>6735854
on twitch side yea, top streamers are mostly males.
that being said, avatar is not a buff to male streamers, and the network/agency is just crippling them on legal side

if they have what it takes to succeed, there's no reason to apply.

>> No.6736251

>>6736172
No but anything holo with EN at the end is a buff

>> No.6736258

>>6735529
Lol Ame saw the gachi money and hasn't mentioned the stars since.

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>>6736258

>> No.6736423

>>6735717
Vanoss, H20 and others? Or Soviet, Max0or itd.
Quite big, wild enough to be interesting (at lest they were few years ago when i watched them))

>> No.6736432

>>6735804
I'm curious about this too. I know how my country feels and how Japan's feel. No clue about the countries in-between on how they feel about it

>> No.6736457

>>6735468
Something like this. The male streamer experience/appeal is different than the female streamer and I don't think an anime avatar is as fitting.

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>>6736258
she was out supporting shien just the other week

>> No.6736519

>>6736457
Isnt that nux guy relatively big.

>> No.6736575

>>6734189
I'm going to be in holostars EN and I can assure you I would never touch the EN girls

[spoiler[I'm after Marine[/spoiler]

>> No.6736601

>>6734332
>if you're a male streamer, you're probably a terrible person
>checks out most popular independent male vtuber "itsagundam" content

well he's definitely not cover material. but he'd probably be a hit with guys. so who knows.

>> No.6736624

>>6736575
Im a bro..I'll root for you. Someone in the fandom might aswell get their dick wet as majority dont stand a chance

>> No.6736717

Sseth hasn't posted any videos for a few months now. Just saying.

>> No.6736736

>>6734939
oh I don't know, I think the problem holostars has is it's trying to fit a square peg in the round hole. no one except fujous like male idol types. guys won't watch that content. the best english male vtuber i've seen is "itsagundam" and that is NOT idol or even Hololive content. if hololive wants to succeed with male vtubers they should pull their heads out of their ass and check out the successful indi's content. it's a different market and audience.

>> No.6736754

>>6735619
> holostars jealous
Idk about that, anon.
Some of them have female gachikois to maintain.

>> No.6736845

>>6736736
Are Holostars really idol? They play games all day. Nijimales also play games and sing. I wouldn't call Akina Saegusa an idol but he sings on stage as well as playing games.

>> No.6736895

>>6736754
Id rather have the fame and money. Unless their actually fucking it mean little

>> No.6736962

>>6736845
Roberu is the less idol like but they definitely still target that small audience

>> No.6737018

>>6734149
From what I gather from reading through this is unless cover changes stars completely they shouldn't even try

>> No.6737088

Nobody cares about male vtubers.

>> No.6737256

>>6737088
I see boards everyday that say otherwise and that's just within /vt/ the least receptive place for it other then japan boards. Fandomn in large craves it. They just can't pull it off

Your in a bubble that protects that mindset

>> No.6737330

>>6737088
Your parents didn’t fucking love you

>> No.6737874

>>6734332
Most streamers are male so that's a pretty dumb generalization
The streamers you're thinking about are probably all big enough that they would have no use for Cover anyway, and they're big because they appeal to an average twitch viewer (zoomers fucking love douchebags)
Holostars EN would work fine if they were like Limmy or Aris with a bit less insults to the viewers even though they fucking deserve it

>> No.6737925

>>6737088
>Nobody cares about male vtubers.
>Kuzuha exists
You were saying?

>> No.6737958

>>6737925
YWNBAJ
it's implied that no one cares about WESTERN male vtubers.

>> No.6737976

>>6735377
But there's no overlap between overseas that watch holostars and Nijimales...like at all.

>> No.6738018

>>6737958
Now it makes sense.

>> No.6738357

>>6737976
There are actually but I've only seen few

>> No.6738474

>>6736423
I mean I'm sure there's a few out there.
But after giving a few of them a try and constantly having to quit whenever they started screaming because
>hurrdurr teammate let me die
I just gave up on them and mostly streaming as a whole.
I gave pokemane a shot, and at the very least she was chill. but couldn't get into her streams either.

>> No.6738563

Probably just no worthwhile applicants. Any established EN male streamers will just buy a live 2D if they want one.

>> No.6738594
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6738594

Don't temp YAGOO to invest in another shitter branch. I don't want him to waste hololive supacha on another male. And fuck holostars fans, always act like a beggar and said that holostars don't get enough support even though they got so many shits and better support than the girls for their shitty performance.

>> No.6738650

>>6734189
you shouldn't worry until they do an off-collab and meet each other in person

>> No.6738699

>>6735717
The only normal streamer I watch is Dunkey, who rules but can't really be considered a popular streamer.

>> No.6738731

>>6738650
Then atleast record it

>> No.6739061

>>6738594
>Cometfag doesn't know the money the girls make and he gives goes to Yagoo's friends the Holostars.

>> No.6739196

Don't know why Roberu end up in holostars and not nijisanji. He barely does any idol activities as it is. What a shame.

>> No.6739457

>>6738594
>better support than the girls.
Bruh I don't even know what to say

>> No.6739552

>>6735015
Lirik is very serious.

>> No.6739870

>>6739457
>better support than the girls for their shitty performance

>> No.6740184

>>6739196
He's an idolmaster mark and knowing about the poorly received male idolmaster characters that were eventually able to gain their own fanbase he wanted to do that with holostars.

>> No.6740259

Anons how high is my chance of being accepted as a HolostarEN and collabing with Gura and Ame? And then having one of them as my Girlfriend vtuber, then being a official couple recognized by cover? I would say 50%

>> No.6740347

>>6740259
get it anon

>> No.6740370

>>6740259
This is why it will never happen. They'll sniff your desperate ass out from a mile away and show you the door.

>> No.6740466

Weebs like to pretend they are chads so they won't admit it but they really enjoy seeing cute girls being cute among other cute girls with no guys in sight.
Adding guys to the mix will tank their numbers just wait and see how after a while they will stop any mixed sex collabs. Papa Yagoo will see those numbers dip and put a stop to it.

>> No.6740497

>>6734149
Women deep into lame hobbies like this are always mentally ill, but they can socialize or entertain to an extent usually. Not to mention some female vtubers are normies that like being attention whores.
Men are just hopeless. 99% if not all of men genuinely interested in being a vtuber are autistic as shit and have no business in entertainment at all.
Look at twitter and see male vtubers commenting something retarded on every tweet their favorite holo girl posts. Look at threads here and see guys with thick ESL accents thinking they can make it big playing grand strategy games. It's no wonder companies aren't even bothering.

>> No.6740508

>>6738594
>And fuck holostars fans
fuck you too :)
>always act like a beggar
Those are saviorfags/flaseflaggers, learn how to distinguish between the two. Their opinions dont count, You see them gone within a week or two anyway.
>holostars don't get enough support
Yes they fucking dont you dumb mutt
>they got so many shits and better support than the girls
Nice joke, made me chuckle
>shitty performance.
You wish

>> No.6740531

>>6740259
If cover is good at one thing, it's hiring talents, ones that will carry them hard so it overshadows their fuckups. You sound like a yab machine, instant decline

>> No.6740608

>>6734189
Too late, Gigguk and their friends already did that lol

>> No.6740659

>>6740259
You get in and the highest you would aim for is a vtuber gf? I guess the irl you is hideous and this is the best outcome you can hope for

>> No.6740691

Holostars is getting support now but ofc people who don't watch wouldn't know.

>> No.6740706

>>6734981
he’s handsome I’d be fine with it desu

>> No.6740709

Cover probably gave up on this plan after they realized they'd have to filter thousands of guys who just want to get close to the girls.

>> No.6740710

>>6740608
The only oshi who doesn't fuck is aqua and that cause she's too retarded

>> No.6740754

>>6740370
> They'll sniff your desperate ass out from a mile away and show you the door.
How? It's not like i'm gonna do this right away, i'll build my fanbase first so they can support me as i approach the hologirls

>> No.6740779

>>6734149


>>6740734

>> No.6740803

>>6740754
Least record it my man. Got get yourself some

>> No.6740888

>>6740754
You think you are to first one to think this? If even Niji who is very lax kicked out that guy then do you think Hololive who is very idol focused wouldn't kick your ass at the first complaint?

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>>6740259
Dont worry HolostarsEN will never be a thing, and smelly faggots like you wont ever make it past the application form :)

>> No.6740912

>>6740754
Make sure to rub it in to all the purityfags you meet

>> No.6741040

>>6740754
Gura and ame? There's way more attractive ones to aim for

>> No.6741438

>>6740888
Ooh ooh do you think i'm that retard to believe this? If a youtuber approached ID just fine and is still talking to them why would they kick me out if i'm part of the company? Literally touch some grass unicornfags

>> No.6741461

>>6740710
Add haachama to that category.

>> No.6741696

>>6737088
Ame and Ollie do.

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>>6740896
Based Homofag, seems like we both somehow agree on something.
Fuck HolostarsEN, W*stern Males should never be allowed into Hololive, fuckers would try to squeeze in and try to get closer to my oshi at any chance given. If YAGOO really want it to happen then they should recruit JOPfags like Coco who can speak english.

>> No.6742183

>>6742057
>fuckers would try to squeeze in and try to get closer to my oshi at any chance given
not like you ever will so i don't see why you care.

>> No.6742266

>>6742057
>JOPfags like Coco who can speak english.
>JOPfags who can speak english.
You know JOP means they speak Japanese only, right? Just say Japanese.

>> No.6742488

>>6742266
i meant to say JP fags who can also speak english* my bad

>> No.6742806

>>6742488
Then just say you don't want American and European Men in Holostars En.

>> No.6742833

>>6741438
> Ooh ooh
Retard

>> No.6743038

>>6742806
European males are fine, they're polite and they have enough decency to maintain respect and distance from the girls. burgers probably will probably spam the girls timeline and inbox begging for attention and collabs, making fans mad

>> No.6743196

>>6743038
So hypothetically if Connor or Gigguk got in Holostars EN, you'd be chill with that because they at least try to be civil.

>> No.6743197

>>6740184
So Robel is a gosling?

>> No.6743299

>nijisanji en males
will be 1 japanese american, 1 korean american, 1 japanese canadian

>holostars en
will be 4 chinese americans

screenshot this post

>> No.6743355

>>6743299
the korean american niji will have a deep ikemen voice

>> No.6743415

>>6742806
>W*stern Males should never be allowed into Hololive
i sorta did

>> No.6743456

>>6743415
How about western WHITE males

>> No.6743514

>>6739870
Still wrong

>> No.6743556

>>6743299
there won't be a holostars en, read the thread, hololive is a idol company.

>> No.6743614

>>6743299
Hiring asians from english-speaking countries is the way to go at first, probably.
They are not as far removed from the original vtuber culture.

>> No.6743679

>>6743299
>holostars en
>all chinese
kek

>> No.6743816

I'm going to be the first holostarEN and I'll graduate within the first week after "accidentally" saying nigger multiple times on stream

>> No.6744149

>>6734532
Literally nothing you listed there is true.

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>>6743816
Naisu

>> No.6744494

>>6743038
I'm european and i'll fuck your oshi

>> No.6744573

>>6743196
Tbf most outside of /vt/ would act like it was best thing to ever happen

>> No.6744598

>>6743556
>hololive is an idol company
Marine, Matsuri and the other massive holo degenerates say hello

>> No.6744637

>>6734149
Holostars has already stated that they appreciate when Hololive talents reach out to them, but they think it is for the best if both don't hang out together. Which is why they rarely ever collab anymore. Also, they will most likely never have a 3d event with them together, so there will make it even more less likely to ever meet in person at the Cover HQ.

>> No.6744708

>>6744573
yes you and the other unironic weebs, but every homofag would hate it.

>> No.6744758

If I made it in id (zero experience wouldn't happen) do watch alongs for hidden gems of an anime season for content. I bet there'd be a nice audience for that.

>> No.6744913

>>6744708
/vt/ is super small in comparison to most vtuber communities dont delude yourselves into thinking this place is how the majority fanbase thinks. We already have e-celeb and tournament collabs that have been mostly received postive. Were getting more and more of them as of late.

Wouldn't happen but I'd do very well

>> No.6744991

>>6744708
So anyone who disagree with you isn't a weeb? Thats weeb logic alright

>> No.6745375

>>6744708
Today I learned weebs are a dying breed in hololive

>> No.6745616

All you have to do to make HolostarsEN a success is have each and every one of them pander to the Best Friend Experience and also make them collab with each other a lot for fujos

>> No.6745689

HolostarsEN will probably be the first thing I'm a dedicated anti of, unless they are married man

>> No.6745711

>>6745616
Yeah the bro experience is the way to go. Thinks its too late though for them to go that route

>> No.6745823

>>6745689
I dont understand being dedicated anti to anything. Seems like you need more things to occupy your time

>> No.6745923

>>6745689
Agreed true or not they definitely need to lie about being in a relationship atleast to make it a smooth process. Till the get a big enough following anyways

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>>6744913
>>6744708
>>6743196
>>6745689
Someone should trick Cuntennur, Gigacuck and the Animefag to joke about joining HolostarsEN and see the shitshow that'll unravel next. Anitubers Hate, Western Males Hate
and no such thing as HolostarsEN.
Easy.

>> No.6746304

>>6746126
Don't they hate them already. Will they just hate them harder? It would be fun to see

>> No.6746317

>>6734149
It's not a worthy endeavor for any male who's competent enough to be worth hiring.

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6746375

>>6746126
>Someone should trick Cuntennur, Gigacuck and the Animefag to joke about joining HolostarsEN
BASED, Yes please! That would be a power move kek

>> No.6746520

>>6743299
>1 japanese american
Does a turboweeb count?

>> No.6746629

>>6746520
no

>> No.6746707

>>6735015
Ironically this is the exact appeal of Korone except she’s a cute dog.

>> No.6746718

>>6746375
Noooo. It would have a vocal hate but still do good and I'd kill myself

>> No.6746762

>>6746707
Doggo is a bro....just a very cute bro

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>>6734189
FUCK THIS GAY EARTH

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6747159

being a holostar would be great fun, but hololive is an idol company and i only like dadrock.

>> No.6747218

>>6746777
Just fuck yourself. Issue resolved

>> No.6747255

>>6747218
Just fuck girls yourself.

>> No.6747313

>>6746777
Whoever you follow, she's most likely having sex with someone on the side. Especially if she is in the EN gen.

>> No.6747379

>>6747313
Well of course but outta sight outta mind

>> No.6747511

>>6747379
How is it out of sight if you're reminded every time you see her?

>> No.6747653

>>6747511
Why would my mind instantly go there. Eveyone In hololive probably fucks. Its somthing people do. Why worry about it. I dont see it happen they dont talk about so we can maintain are parasocail relationship. Not gunna lie to myself like most

>> No.6747786

>>6747511
Attractive weeb here who has so-so luck with women. Am I a cuck if I also fuck?

>> No.6748647

Can we go one day without a holostar post

>> No.6749454

>>6734332
>i can't think of a single male twitch streamer who wouldn't destroy the cover brand
Aisriale, imRitaka, Merryweatherey, maybe Senz

>> No.6749622

>>6748647
No. Gunna bump this just to despite you

>> No.6752830

>>6734149
If male vtubers come about, they'll be indies or western based. Male streamers don't want to sit around playing Apex or Minecraft all the time, and while it's fair to expect women to play games like that (because women don't play video games usually), men don't want to be constrained to certain schedules when it comes to entertainment/vista, especially jap men.

>> No.6757406

>>6740508
>>6743514
>no u
Sasuga holostars fans.

>> No.6764089

>>6746762
the cutest bro

>> No.6764382

>>6752830
You have no idea what you're talking about

>> No.6764426

>>6734332
cover brand is already destroying itself

>> No.6764634

>>6734332
Sykkuno

>> No.6764702

>>6749454
Merry is a drama magnet

>> No.6766105

>>6741438
>guys you think this can happen?
>no, this never works
>WAAA WAAA YOU ARE MEANIES
dont fucking ask people if you dont want answers

>> No.6770737

>>6743299
No. They're going to be Filipino and you're going to like them

>> No.6771115

>>6770737
Can confirm. Am of flip descent and going to apply. You WILL hear my pilipino accent and you WILL like it.

>> No.6772935

>>6771115
Not so fast, bucko. I'm going to be the male flip Vtuber. You WILL watch me play boomer shooters and you WILL like it.

>> No.6776781

>>6771115
>>6772935
I think all three of us are going to make it. Imma play/sing butchekik when that happens.

>> No.6776932

Hartvigen for HolostarsEN.

>> No.6781138

>>6739196
He didn't pass the interview of nijisanji

>> No.6781311

Darksydephil Vtuber

>> No.6781408

Any male content creator worth they salt is already successful enough that they don't need to be part of HoloStars and if they wanted to be vtubers they've already started working on it on their own

>> No.6782796

Aisriale would fit, only male vtuber who makes me laugh.

>> No.6783282

>>6781408
Literally this, only people applying for Holostars EN are autists and fags who struggle to make content, are wierd or annoying as fuck and dont have the skill to build their own fanbase.

>> No.6789107

>>6737088
But they're pretty cool

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>>6789107
>But they're pretty cool

which ones

>> No.6795834

>>6789818
Your reps faggot

>> No.6797673

>>6752830
>Male streamers don't want to sit around playing Apex or Minecraft all the time
how can one man be so wrong

>> No.6801291

>>6734149
>>Holostars EN

Neat, some basedcucks are gonna start thinking they are vtuber material. Imagine, they get their nose up high thinking they get in after some cringy audition video, starts rubbing their dick in twitter about how they will become the next chuuba to get famous, get's denied cause they don't have what it takes, and then posts a brain puke on twitter with 10 parts on how cover made a mistake of not accepting them.

God, I'd kill to see that happen.

>> No.6804871

My favourite male vtuber is the annoying orange

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>>6734189
>can't wait to see holostar EN to fuck my oshi yeah
I just wanna touch bossu...

>> No.6808035

>>6801291
Imagine wanting to be in cover's cuckshed, forever being emasculated by Hololive's superiority. Holostars were a mistake.

>> No.6808257

>>6740710
>he doesn't know

>> No.6809100

Male holoEN would be competing against established male youtubers/twitch streamers who have millions of subscribers and up to 100k concurrent viewers. It's the MOST oversaturated and competitive market in streaming but also the hardest to monetise because it doesn't revolve around simping.

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>>6734149
Castle Clique seems to be growing quickly as a male vtuber
https://youtu.be/V7-MVnK0tZI

>> No.6809607

>>6734149
male vtubers arent for female audience either. niji jp knows how it works. holostar has tried to pander to fujoshit and been irrelevant

western indie male vtubers are mostly creepy coomers who just want to be close to female vtubers. they dont have any skills of japanese language, gaming, acting like a fascinating fictional character, talking, and communicating with others. they are just talentless coomer NPCs. they will never be hired.

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>>6809607
How do you say this when Chronoir exists. And on top of that, men are the ones watching them in the majority, it's the women who get pandered to with ads like this and merch/music/VPs. You're right about the western male shit though lol

>> No.6809706

>>6809392
Why do you insist on selfposting everywhere here besides the proper place for it? Also not a vtuber.

>> No.6809822

>>6734149
CDawgVA and Ironmouse streams have shown that the dynamic between male and female streamers/vtubers can be extremely entertaining and popular. You'd have to be a fool to ignore this.

Also, the idea that the audience will stay overwhelmingly male in the long run is not necessarily true. As usual with hobbies, males are the early adopters, but females follow a few years later. Just look at anime in the west - prior to 2010, the community was almost exclusively male, now there is a very substantial female audience as well. Same applies to video games.

>> No.6809824

while of course the sheer autism and void of personality inherent to western male vtubers is the biggest setback, i also think these companies don't get which designs appeal to both men and women. right now they're still mostly focused on long limbed soft boi ikemen designs, but that's not gonna be nearly as popular in the west. what Cover and Anycolor would need to do is throw some money at big name shonen artists to design models for them. dump a truck full of money in front of Kohei Horikoshi's house and let him design one and you're guaranteed a winner. shit like MHA, JJK, Black Clover, etc. is all super popular amongst both men and women, so that's gonna be your best bet designwise. you want models that people find cool and interesting, rather than cute and sexy. no traps, no fujobait, no shotas, only badass designs that stand out. cool will always surpass gender barriers and may even convince JOPs to give them a chance. the hard part will then be finding someone who can make those models fun to watch

>> No.6809871

>>6809657
still the majority of their regular fanbases are men. i mean, the structure of vtubing itself is not for women. remember that "vtubing" is mostly about "gaming". they are virtually "virtual gamers". whether they are male or female, most of their activity in streams is playing games.

most women dont give a shit about gaming. ofc they can pander to the minority group "gamer girls" but they are literally a minority group.

>> No.6810025

>>6809871
I guess I don't know the extent of Holostars fujo pandering is, any time I hear of them it's about games, collabs, or low numbers.
On that note, I can't say I agree with >>6809824 saying Western males won't watch an ikemen streamer. If you're watching vtubers you're already familiar with anime. They just have to hire an entertaning, non cancerous male instead of a male with a soft voice. And maybe the design can be more of a normal anime guy like Yashikizu (yes I know his mama did BL but he looks average) rather than a retarded gimmick like all the other 1 view western male indies.

>> No.6810185

>>6809824
>>6809607
>>6809657
The more I hear about western vtuber dudes the better I feel about eventually becoming one. My internet isn't good enough to stream or even watch streams right now, but evidently just wanting to be a genuine entertaining streamer alone is a buff. That's kinda sad in and of itself. Do they just do tons of awkward dead air and not even tell good jokes? I was the class clown in school and was pretty popular, you guys figure I'd be above average?

>> No.6810233

>>6740710
she's a jav actress.

>> No.6810477

>>6810185
Everyone wants to be entertaining and social, but no one is pulling it off in the EN male vtubing scene unless they have a repurposed account or leech like crazy, and even then, you could name like maybe 3 who come close to the type of vtuber Anycolor has under their belt.
But yes, majority of their streams is dead air. I get streaming to literally no one means no material to talk about but no effort is being made. And the ones with viewers are basically talk shows where the guests do the entertaining. Then, the barely successful ones are all softboys which makes sense because it's true, women are the minority of vtuber view bases so they have tiny yet dedicated fanbases. Everyone talks about hidden gems but are they really good if they're streaming to a bot and their brother?

>> No.6810504

>>6810025
>Western males won't watch an ikemen streamer

same goes for japanese men. only real otakus watch ikemen/chuuni-looking vtubers and most of them even arent "real fans". they just care about the ikemen/chuuni-like ones just because they are real apex tards or the vtubers are part of the nijisanji dramas .
male vtubers in niji jp are "relatively" better than other male vtubers but still much less popular than female vtubers in general.

nijis male vtubers have the advantage of having a bunch of talented and popular female vtuber peers who can always hang out with them. thanks to the female peers, they can make a bunch of dramas outside of gaming. if they didnt have any such female vtuber peers, and tried to pander to fujoshit only playing games, they would be as irrelevant as holostars.

>> No.6810630

>>6734149
holostarsEN would be going back to the start of hololive where 1000 viewers was a miracle (and still is for some of the holostars). Anyone getting into it would have to accept that they will most likely never get above a few hundred viewers, do it over 'real streaming' mainly for the whole anime aesthetic coupled with music-related activities, and also accept that they will probably have to do it alongside wageslaving as more of a hobby than a part-time job.
I would honestly admire anyone who decided to go for holostarsEN and stuck to it for real.

>> No.6810830

>>6810477
Damn, I didn't think it'd be that bad. I'll try to get my ducks in a row to get good internet + a good place to stream. Hopefully I haven't gotten too rusty in the joke department, but I know for sure I can talk your ear off, so dead air isn't even remotely a concern. I'm even gonna practice singing and my Japanese ain't too shabby either, so hopefully I'll be worth watching and can get out of the 1-2 viewer ditch nice and fast.

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