/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

when do holostars get something like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDb7PGB5kc4

No, I don't. Anything else? Hololive and Holostars are two different projects with different goals.

>>666478
Why do you blame the talent when the company is specifically structured to make interactions with each other difficult? The girls probably need to go through some hoops with management to appear on one of their streams and even then it makes more sense to hang out with a Niji girl instead. No risk to their brand.

>>666478
Some 5ch schizos would literally lose it and be legitimate threats to their life if certain holos interacted with men. It has happened countless of times with real idols.
Moona interacting with the homos had fucking purity seaniggers posting on this board already fucking lose it and post retarded rageposts directed at Iofi.

>>666478
It's just business, nigga. If you collab with a holostar your unicorns will leave for greener pastures. Better to ignore their existence

>>666478
Not really, I imagine that if any of the Hololive girls had a good rapport or friendship with one of the Holostars purityfags would flip their shit.
I think it's only ok with the HololiveID branches more often because they aren't japanese girls so the purity shtick isn't as important.
>TLDR, not their fault their would be sperg fallout

>>667110
it kind of is their fault though if you are following that line of reasoning, the reason that kind of fanbase exists in the first place is because they cultivate and enable it

>>667178
Such gachikoi fanbase that is obbsessed with their idols is basically free money that everyone wants. You can even claim than nearly entire Japanese idol industry exists thanks to them.

How Fubuki can collab with them often and manage to avoid backlash? Friend energy?

>>666478
Maybe if any of them were as cool as Yashiro, Kuzuha, etc. Astel is being held back by his design. APEX is so hot right now in moonland, he should be getting bigger boosts with how much he plays.

>>667240
Because Fubuki and Matsuri told purity faggots to fuck off early in their streaming carreers.

>>667178
yeah, fubuki and matsuri pretty much told whatever purityfags existed in their fanbase to fuck off when they decided to chill with holostars and sora treats her fanbase as friends/family

most of the other hololive girls decided it'd be more profitable to keep the purityfags in their fanbase

>>667222
not really sure if that is relevant? just pointing out that you cant say its not their fault people will sperg out when they intentionally try to attract the kind of people that would

>>667284
I am am just saying there is a reason why they appeal to such audience in the first place

>>666846
I blame the talents for not achnologing holostars I don't care if they choose to interact with them or not. Also I doubt interactions are difficult seeing as Fubuki, Matsuri and almost all of ID have collabed with them no problem. Ina even drew one before.

>>666478
Blame unicornfaggots

>>667302
true there is wouldn't argue with that

>>666478
nah. they're just being careful of the idolfags. Watame and Coco almost got a yab when they shared pic related on twitter and interacted with Kaoru. this was made by a drawanon on jaypee hlg

>>667390
Glad they care about insecure fans more then there friends and colleagues. This is just gonna lead to more graduations if they keep this up.

>>667471
They're not colleagues dumbass, they have no formal relationship whatsoever. The same company owns both, there is a big difference. I don't feel bad for them whatsoever because they knew this when they joined the company, they could have waited for Niji or someone else to pick them up but they didn't.

>>666478
Have you wondered why normal hololive and holostars are separated? That's why.

>>667536
Seethe. I hope roberu fucks your oishi.

>>666478
Why is Roberu watching himself?

>>667603
This whole thread is seething about something everyone knows and accepts already, cope harder faggot.

>>667648
You smell of insecure faggot. You "know and accept" it because your one of the faggots who would cry if they did collab.

Why do the Holostars seem to have such a hard time growing anyway? It can't be just because "lol make vtubers", the Niji males do a lot better. Are the Stars just bad?

>>667895
They don't seem to have a lot of clippers

>>667790
Smelling dudes and seemingly confused why fans of an idol company don't give a shit if your favorite guys get to leech off the more popular group or not, expected of the Holostar fanbase.

>>667178
There are certainly some that enable it and go for the GFE but some of them just really don't want or deal well with conflict.
Girls like Pekora, Aqua, Korone, and maybe even Okayu just don't want to deal with that sort of horseshit and just want to stream and play games or sing. I think that's a proper distinction to make and keep in mind but you're not wrong and some of them have gone for that sort of culture.

>>666666

>>667240
>manage to avoid backlash
she didn't, she went right through it

Looks like the homobeggar schizo found his way to this board.

>>667895
This: >>667968
They don't have many clippers or live TLs.

>>668246

Too based.

>>667643
Why wouldn't he watch himself?

Its just SEA niggers getting uppity. Even top of the line GFE idol Ayame has gone a vtuber guy's stream as a guest and got into a marriage interview with a top level APEX player vtuber.

It's just business. Some of them actually know each other irl.

>>667895
Depend on which Niji male vtubers.

If people stop comparing Holostars with Hololive, their growth is actually ok.

Also Holostars began in September 2019, much later than Hololive. Even Hololive had hard time growing initially.

>>667895
Because Nijisanji never had such separation between male and females that HoloProductions have.
They always could interact and benefit from every member in collabs and all. Yashiro and Kuzuha play family with Himawari and Dola; Ririmu, Kuzuha and Shiina also form a unit; Banderas and Roa were like father and daughter toiling on late night minecraft; and Utaku was thisrting over Masaru's shota dick; a lot of Kanda's popularity comes from teasing Mirei extensively and all the sexual tension that comes from it with Shiina and Hoshikawa actively shipping the two; Kuzuha interaction with Mito gave us the weather deck meme, etc. EX-Albio's popularity was greatly boosted from his teacher-student interaction with Ars - those are just some of them and that's not counting interactions with people from other companies and indies.
All those memorable and meme-worthy moments helped to boost their popularity.
They also are not pigeonholed on being cool idols, Yashiro, Maimoto and Rikiichi for example are extremely awkward otaku and for a big part of the audience that fell right into the "oh man, they're just like me" category and fulfill the role of being online bros to the audience - which let them eventually display their other talents.
Meanwhile, the only one who's doing anything comparable this in Holostars is Roberu, who became his audience surrogate son and get his funny meme-worthy moments out of his interacting with people outside of outside of HoloPro.

>>667471
So do they ignore their existence or are they friends & colleagues, anon? You can't have both, retard.

>>667895
Most people don't want to say it but the Stars aren't that good compared to the Niji males. They've also got nothing like ChroNoir.
>>670685
>pigeonholed on being cool idols
Most of the Stars don't act like cool idols at all. What are you talking about with this part!?
>>668450
I thought most HoloStars viewers were SEA? Only Hololive Gen 3 and those after it usually don't do collabs with dudes. Usually not always. Granted, it could be because Hololive wasn't as stable during Gen 1 and Gen 2 days.
>>667968
Neither do most Nijis.

>>667536
They're two branches of the same agency, so they are indeed colleagues.

>>671124
>Neither do most Nijis.
If we are talking about clips intended for the Japanese audience its not even close I don't think.

am I the only that thinks roberu looks like battler

>>671470
Yes

>>671437
I was talking most about EN subbed clips. You're right if its for JP.

>>666960
Watching Indonesian schizo gachikois seething is fun

>>671124
>I thought most HoloStars viewers were SEA?
That would explain their obsession with bringing Hololive and Holostars together despite the obvious issues with that, and when that's pointed out they resort to cuckposting.

>>667270
Based
Fuck unicorns

>>671847
I assumed it was SEA because I assume most EN comments in their chat is from SEA.

>>667895
Because Idol faggotry is fucking boring. The Niji males aren't Idols and those that sing are more like traditional musicians who aren't faggy idols that feel like they can't interact with women on twitter due to the fear that whatever fujo fanbase they have will freak the fuck out.

>>671470
I knew he gave off a vibe I couldn't quite put my finger on

>>672895
I feel most western fans overstate idolshit or don't actually understand/are not involved in idolshit. ChroNoiR being a pairing is already more "idol-ish" than most Holostars.

>>673036
There's a difference between coupling like Takamori and ChroNoiR and actual Idolshit like Watame needing to ask her manager if she can reply to Kaoru, someone who was hired by the same parent company as her, on twitter.

Literally cringe shit.

>>666665
probably when rikka is no longer the only one with 3D

Subaru said she doesn't collab with them because she doesn't want to be a bother to their female viewers plus she haven't meet them yet. Honestly it sounds like an excuse forced by management so rrats don't spread bs
I think Sora said something similar a few months ago but we know that she at least play with them because she leaked her friend lists on stream and Astel, Oga and Aruran were online.

Also Choco collabed with Oga and she watch Roberu's streams (Choco is a mod too).
A few days ago, Oga said how they can't decide when or how collab with Hololive and it has to be initialize by the girls via managers so only Sora, FBK, Choco and Matuli

>>673211
Just because both are coupling doesn't mean they are the same. ChroNoir is a completely different kind of beast than something like Takamori. One is an actual "business couple" while the other is just for the lulz. The closest Holo thing to it is maybe NoeFure.

>>673351
Sora has interacted with males in the past and so have some holos in Gen 1 and Gen 2. Towa's going to be in the coming CR Cup that has a dude on her team. Subaru has collabed with Maimoto and Belmond, but not Holostars. Collabbing with males is fine, but Holostars are treated differently.

>>673036
They do overstate it, they all complain about muh toxic idol culture while completely unaware that many Hololive members have interacted with men without some insane backlash, even if they don't usually interact. I mean take for example the Aloe incident, practically all of Reddit and clipwatchers believe she graduated because of idol culture when the true reason had practically nothing to do with idols at all.
Here's reality: Hololive has no obligation to raise Holostars out of the hole they're in and people have good, natural reasons for feeling discomfort over the prospect of them regularly collaborating. Obviously starting a witch hunt is crazy, but normal men will at least feel discomfort over a woman they idolize or have feelings for having other men (competitors) near them. It's just biology.

>>666478
Roberu 3d when?

>>667272
You also have to look on male side, even if the fans of girls don't angry at the girl for collabing with male, they would(and they can) attack the male instead.
It was one of Mayuzumi concern when Matsuri decide to visit and fanboying him during his call-in stream, he even asked he about it.

>>673518
Most of them also don't know that there was a Kanda and Gurei collab where they had to disable the like/dislike shit on their stream. Still remember anons arguing whether that was the Nijis winning or haters winning for making the Nijis do that. Crazy fans are crazy fans and it isn't even limited to idols. Dean Ambrose in WWE had crazy fans who kept messaging him shit like his wife was lying to him and was just pretending to be nice and shit.

>>672113
>>673342

>>673351
>>673438
I miss Oozora family stream.
It kinda make wonder of why there's lack amount cross gender and cross corporate collab these day between two.

>>674135
They're waiting for 3D Ui-mama. There isn't a lack of cross corporate collabs either. We literally recently had an Among Us collab that wasn't Holo-only. Marine literally collabed with Rindou last month. Also remember that not all collab streams will be only on Hololive channels.

>>673644
I don't remember which, but I know that one of Holostars got attacked by some fangirls and he basically told them that its not like he's dating them or the hololive girls and they need to fuck off if they have a problem with him playing games with his friends.

>>667895
Most male Nijj do worse than the Stars lmao

>>667240
>manage to avoid backlash
She doesn't, she's in Narukami's top 10 most disliked vtubers for a reason.

>>674307
Cross company yes, but not cross gender.
If this is 2019 we could already have Nijimales and Hologirl Among Us like the Project Winter was.

>>674514
You are saying it as if 5ch didn't hate everyone

>>671847
this
SEA is infested with fujoshits
t.seanigger with a lot of fujoshit friends

>>666478
I would like the fucking company itself to acknowledge their existence.

>>674420
Yet they were treated better than Holostars.
Look at >>666665
Three of guy here number wise probably lower viewership than Stars.

>>674659
They do tho? The Japanese Hololive twitter page posts updates including them when it's relevant (like with the Guilty Gear stream announcements) and retweets stuff like Shinove's schedule posts and merch announcement posts, and the english hololive page even translates those same posts. It's not like Cover pretends they don't exist, iirc they had an event at a con a while ago and get their own sponsorship events

The only good male vtuber is Joe from Niji, the rest are complete trash. The stars should be graduated.

>>674810
What the fuck are you talking about? Go to their channels, Toya, Kou, Rikichi already dwarf Roberu's views and they aren't even the heavy hitters.
>>674817
They're the type that whines alot but don't actually support. Astel even talked about an upcoming event during his APEX stream.

>>673438
>Collabbing with males is fine, but Holostars are treated differently.

yes, that's exactly what I was trying to point out anon
Subaru is well known to be one of the first Hololive girl who collabed with a men and also first Niji/Holo collab so why she was suddenly so worry about Holostars female viewers when Maimoto is known to have large audience of female?
Haachama also collabed with a couple of male vtubers before and it was fine.

Maybe there's some kind of "rule" between the branch that makes Holos think it's not worth the risk which it's really unfortunely for homo branch.

Just look Towa, she's very likely Astel's friend but she never talks about Astel or possible collab with him on her streams despite Towa watching and commenting on Astel's unarchive singing streams and both being APEXfags.

>>666478
>rude
What?

>>675341
Maybe despite working under the same company, most aren't actually close or friends. I don't think collabs with Holos will help anyway. FBK and Matsuri collabs barely do anything compared to normal streams. They need to be more entertaining but thats easier said than done.

Just because you work on the same company doesnt mean you HAVE TO be friend and collab with everyone.
Also you have to find a good time, game or idea of stream and both need a good chemistry, I cant imagine Aqua playing apex with the boys because of her social anxiety

>>667321
Matsuri confirmed that interactions can be difficult, because it's not a general policy on all the talents. So someone like Matsuri could probably (and even that's not certain) ask to do a collab with someone, but Ayame might not (again, just an example). This leads me to think that it's up to everyone's individual managers on what they can and can't do.

>>675707
They most likely are in a discord server together and chat semi regularly. I assume they don’t want to collab due to crazy fans

>>667536
Watame straight up called Kaoru a colleague when she got attacked for replying to him.

>>668329
They have live TLs, but that's a wasted effort compared to clips in my opinion if the goal is to make them grow, since that means people have to tune in to begin with.

>>666478
No. If they really wanted attention then they should've been women in the first place.

>>676297
Is that why you’re a tranny?

>>676307
Yes, that's why I've been on this site for 12 years. I need attention.

>>666478
No. I'm glad they ignore those faggots. I hope they all graduate.

>>675490
>>675707
In Astel's case though, we know that he played with Towa and Ayame offstream in Apex.

kino
https://youtu.be/hkfaCoNBciE

>>674514
that's not because of holostars though, it's because Fubuki is/was the pseudo face of the company for a really long time so by pushing her to the top of a disliked chuuba list, it's basically saying they hate hololive as a whole. Also Narukami's list had like 100 voters, don't be ridiculous anon.

>>676297
Males get more attention. The top youtubers/streamers are male.

>>677285
Yeah. But as far as SC earners and major events, the girls are doing great.

They don't want to.

https://youtu.be/qCOmuE8xAIE

It's not rude. It's not really their call to begin with. Anything they do are heavily managed. Even if they are okay with getting some sort of hate, even if they don't mind whatever narratives people will create... If the management do not agree... They can't do shit. Also, did you see how in the afterparty of the last apex tournament? Cover had to request to shibuya hal to not pair the girls with random dudes. When Towa announced that she will be playing in the CR cup, she addes that her manager will always be on the call when the group will have a call. She will be pairing with Nose and a male pro player.

>>667968
Neither do male nijis and they still are successful for the most part.

>>674420
No, they don't. There's like 30 male and most of them are over 100k. Here's a list of a few of them

>>667240
She killed off her gachikois and tanked her viewership, and for what? Roberu is still doing the best out of all of them while refusing her help because he's actually entertaining.

>>667471
Good let the homos graduate, so they can apply and fail to get into Nijisanji because they're talentless NND hacks.

>>677849
holostars....

>>677929
I thought the main issue was that Fubuki doesn't read superchats much and just relys on sponsorships and other revenue? Frankly I still don't really see why she is always hyped as the face of the company when she is a middle of the road streamer at best who can talk really fast.

>>677849
with the rate Roberu's been earning superchats, he's on his way to passing a lot of Niji males in the coming months(he's already passed a few of the mid tier nijis). How hard will nijifags jump to the merch defense when that ends up happening?

>>667240
shes in a leadership position and everyone knows it. she checks every holo jp member and supports. nobodys against it either. clipfags have no clue.

>>678026
the merch defense is literally why Ichikara is bigger than Cover in 3x in size and capital, retard, because that's a lot of their investment in products with their own store.

Besides, we are all talking about subs.

>>678325
no one ever said "subscribers"

>>678026
Good luck surpassing Kuzuha, Kanae, Hayato and many niji that earn more superchat than even most holo girls.

>>666478
I think it's really rude that holostars exist.

>>678363
not saying he's passing those guys any time soon, but he's approaching Belmond in superchats and once he passes him, he's entering the range of other niji men like the clown and will be entering the realm of some popular nijis as well as passing other holos like Choco.

>>668029
Jesus christ, what a fucking faggot.

>>678536
Yes, Holostar fans are really gay as this illustrates.

>>678325
>m-muh merch
Like clockwork

>>667240
Either her fanbase is loyal as fuck or she's tight with management (or both), she was the only holo to publicly support Coco after the taiwan shit so she's obviously allowed more freedom than others.

>>678588
Really though. It does seem more of less correct to assume merchandise is a much bigger percentage of revenue than superchat when you look at things we can actually see figures for.

The Nijisanji BD of their concert 18700 yen sold 8,276 units that is around 150 million yen. Their last album they released sold around 30k copies at 3850 yen for around another 120 million yen and those were both released in the same month without even thinking about normal merchandise releases which there are tons of most months. To put that in context even now I don't think Hololive makes that much in superchat in a month period, but just two items out of many could surpass that.

>>666666
based

>>680472
Seeing the numbers for both companies, it really makes no sense how there can even be a comparison.

>>682678
Let's put it another way, a single BD brought in the same amount of revenue as Coco's entire last year of superchat.

>>678026
Late reply but some of Nijisanji male didn't open Superchat most of the time.
Mayuzumi and Kenmochi for example

>>666478
And why the fuck should they? Holostars are none of their fucking business.

Why don't YOU acknowledge the Holostars in your workplace anon?

>>673518
This. Hololive didn't mog Niji into the dirt by being better streamers than them or some bullshit.

>>667270
and this is really the thing about interactions between the two branches. the Holostars were formed at a time where interactions between the Hololive girls and Nijisanji males still happened but Cover launched them with a complete ban on even interactions between the two branches. sankisei launched and collabs between male/females basically stopped, setting the culture that's continued even after Cover reversed their policy (with Yagoo calling it something he deeply regrets).
it's too late for it for it to change without rocking the boat and upsetting gachikois, even something some like a Hololive Productions Apex tournament with the boys being limited with whose teams they can be on was shot down because the situation as is is too fragile in that regards, it's better for Cover to push them away. frankly, I don't except them to be included at all in whatever Cover has planned for their 5th anniversary this year too.

>>667348
>>672357
WTF are unicorns in this sense? Sounds like SJW speak.

>>666478
I don't acknowledge their existence either

>>671233
People you never interact with are not colleagues.

>>691158
non slut females.

>>673351
>Sora, FBK, Choco and Matuli
And Roboco and surprisingly Aki
>>678588
>>678026
Holostar actually earns quite lots from their merchandise sales dumbo. All of their merch sold out in minutes. And then there's Roberu that got magazine interview which like only four hololive girls got

>>666478
No
why would they anger half of their fanbase
just to help some faggots and the fat uglyass fujos and mentally ill trannies that watch them?

>>666478
When Noel was plugging her tiddymilk booze, she mentioned one of the Holostars that had previously collabed with that company, and she honestly sounded like she was hesitant to even bring up Holostars.
Idolfags are crazy, man.

>>690890
>(with Yagoo calling it something he deeply regrets)
So does he regret implementing the policy or reversing it?

>>667240
Fubuki doesnt give a fuck about money she supports her friends

>>693146
Probably implementing it. The boys seem to be his personal pet project seeing as how they get merch and had new years outfits despite their best performers still not beating out Choco yet

>>693448
our friend is Based beyond belief

>>693521
I mean, Haachama has like 6 outfits, and I don't think that she got them during the rapid growth saga

>>667240
She's in the crapper supacha wise compared to other holos with similar channel sizes. Also since most of her fanbase is made up of meme clip watchers.

>>691492
>never interact with
He doesn't know

>>693146
implementing it. talents always had the right to associate and collab with who they wanted (within reason and with manager approval) yet the decision in this case was taken away from them
>>693893
Aruran's nipples...

>>693956
>Aruran's nipples...
I wasn't talking about that specifically, but yeah, they actually interact with each other behind the scenes.

>>690890
Rather than having the girl endorsing the guy, it would be much better if audience found them.
Right now Holostars are pretty much isolated, let them join the other vtuber circle by collabing.

>>694155
that's more or less how things are now. they're having to work to build their own audience which is fine, growth is faster for some and slower for others (the introverts... Temma and Miyabi...) but as long as they're doing their best I believe in their continued incline and will support them.

>>666478

no brainer, holostars are shit afterall

>>694395
Roberu mentioned something like this iirc, that he wants Holostars to get their own concerts and stand on their own before doing any sort of big Holopro crossover event

>>694395
Not everyone is Hololive so the best chance for Holostars right now is joining an existing network and expanded it with your own, Roberu has been doing this but just like with Fubuki a single person can only help you that much.

>>694542
I do wonder why the others aren't more proactive in trying to reach out to other people and get exposed to a wider audience, Kaoru was doing that kind of thing too when he was there.

>>694523
during his 10k milestone stream, the stream after he watched 2nd fes, his anniversary and with the call from Sora he's been pretty consistent on that point: the Holostars need to build their own incline in order to reach the same levels of success and the opportunities with it that the girls have.
>>694591
1/3 of the Holostars are hard introverts (Izuru, Miyabi, Temma). Rikka's had his music program but he's started to reach outside like his coming Among Us collab. Astel wants to push forward with Apex, although he's still an outsider which means he hasn't been invited by any team for the CR tournament which limits things. Oga, Aruran, Shien... not sure.

>>694523
Honestly their situtation remind me of IM@S Side M and Jupiters as they need to proof their own worth to be accepted to the audiance, but the difference is that instead of IM@S brother group they actually inserted as LoveLive brother group.

>>694591
This is why Kaoru graduation was such huge blow for Holostars growth, he will and can become the gateway for audience to Holostars.

>>694722
Shien might be about to get a huge boost from fightan players thanks to the Strive beta. Him dunking Woolie 2-0 is already spreading like wildfire on Twitter, and apparently he was holding his own against other pros in that same stream.

>>694818
>kaoru graduation
He was fired, big fucking difference. Get it right already.

>>695244
Ah yeah, kinda forgot about that.

>>695244
Did we ever get an explanation for why he was fired? Because Narukami's narrative was wrong and the only "public" thing about what happened was the Graduation Letter being created a week before it was published.

>>695359
This is fourth-hand knowledge, so take it as you will, but apparently his wife came out to say it wasn't sexual in nature because people were trying to say that he fucked Miko or another girl.

>>695558
I know about this. I saw her tweet, and they're still mutuals, so the only correct part of Narukami's narrative was that Kaoru had a wife and none of the cheating bullshit was true. But what happened for Cover to fire their fastest growing Holostar member?

>>695244
What for?

>>695680
It wasn't stream content, he was doing fine and I remember him being in the middle of a good Shadow of the Colossus run the day before he poof'd.
For it to be that sudden, it had to be a severe breach of ethics, company policy, or contract. If he was just having a difference of opinion he would've been graduated, like how Aloe was.

>>695861
But what kind of breach? We know it wasn't anything sexual, and his roommate still collabs with the same people he did before, and a lot of them are on the same circle that some Holo and Niji members are/were, so I don't think he did anything that was actually awful. It's so weird how his graduation was always nebulous compared to the other members who graduated in 2020. Considering how important trpg content is for his roommate account I honestly believe it might've been something related to management permissions that got out of hand.

>>691158
it IS SJW speak.
it literally means incel

>>695359
>Narukami's narrative was wrong
oh no no no
he doesn't know

>>696753
Narukami was right, the existence of the Whore of Hololive was confirmed Echo...

>>691158
Idolfags that think the girls should be 100% untouched by interactions with men, and that women that interact with men are less pure for it.
So basically, extreme incels.

>>696415
Management permissions would've looked different. Mio got smacked with Permissions last year, while Kaoru didn't even have a single strike (and still doesn't). By this logic, it had to be something that was big and unreconcileable but not ethically reprehensible.

My personal theory, and this is entirely based on nothing, is that he lied about something important during the interview/application process, and Cover found out. It's the only thing I can think of that would cause that sudden of a termination without affecting any of his relationships, other than Lack of Ability to Fulfill Obligation.

>>696874
oh no no no no

>>691158
unicorns only let virginal women approach them

>>696874
the termination notice was penned a week and a half before he was actually terminated so it wasn't completely sudden. Cover's statement as well as Oga's stream said it was a mutual decision by Cover and him, Oga said it was his personal decision but didn't elaborate further.
considering Sora retweeted her old graduation cover on the day it happened (https://twitter.com/tokino_sora/status/1288039423645343746)), I don't think it was anything that serious. I lean towards some sort of disagreement that Cover felt wasn't that big an issue but he did.

>>696874
Not talking about permissions to play the game from the publisher, but to do a trpg stream. We know from some members that managers can veto stream ideas, and it's highly unlikely that Kaoru didn't had any plans to play CoC, so it could've been him getting tired of management being a roadblock and things got heated behind the scenes to the point he ended up being fired. I'm talking this out of my ass, and your theory might be closer to the actual truth, but I'm having a hard time to think about something that could make Cover fire him on the spot. There's this >>697082 too.

>>696589
Ah, what a weird term.
>>696874
I do like the idea of them not bringing up men in conversation if they are the GFE type of streamer idol, but I'm realistic enough to know it's fantasy and they aren't pure virginal saints.
But it's a part of their job to play pretend.

narukami was talking about 2 things, the second part is yo

>>666478
Nows the perfect time to get Roberu's Xenoblade 2 playthrough in people's attention!