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>What is /wasp/?
/wasp/ is a thread for Female Vtubers to give and receive advice related to Vtubing

>Why /wasp/?
Men and women target different demographics and this thread is geared towards gender specific strategies to foster growth and gain an audience. For more technical advice you can check /asp/.

>Can I self post and promote?
Sure

>"I am X vtuber and I have to say Z girl is an schizo/bitch/liar! Read my Tweetlong..."

Since it's technically off-topic, we would ask you kindly to take that to back to /asp/, if you must talk about it at all. It will be better for viewers if feuds between vtubers are never made public, nor /here/ nor in twitter. Hold a facade for the sake of the children, your fans deserve better. No one likes it when the mommies fight. Don't turn this general into /cgl/, please.

>Last thread FAQ:

Fighting games being a debuff (again)
How to sue your doctor for vtuber money after a misdiagnosis
Why does this thread exists?
Is being a loli really a buff?
How to filter all the males from /asp/?
Do all Mexicans play KOF? (yes)
Is being black a debuff?
Are retro games a debuff?
Mentally unstable menhera designs?
Are lazy eyes hot on a vtuber?
Should female chuubas pretend to be shotas instead?
How to summon oilers? ( Besides doing GFE)
Are wasp evil?

Are you an expert on any of these topics? Drop by! Your opinion is welcome!

>tiermaker
https://tiermaker.com/create/-fasp--tiermaker-16646404

>Some resources
https://pastebin.com/AJLkFrGK (embed)

>threads of interest:
>>>/vt/wvt/ - OG EN indie thread
>>>/vt//aus/ - Aussie chuubas
>>>/vt//choc/ - Chuubas with overall darker skin color
>>>/vt//wool/ - Sheep chuubas and friends
>>>/vt//vrt/ - Retro gamer chuubas
>>>/vt//fig/ - Fighting gamer chuubas
>>>/vt//asmr/ - ASMR chuuba discussions
>>>/vt//vt/uber drawthread - Drawfags and draw requests
>>>/vt//hag/ - Chuubas of 30 years old and up

Previous >>66966451

>> No.67022925

There's nothing to tax you don't make anything from streaming

>> No.67023573

Don't use my wife as part of your schizo thread split.

>> No.67023648

>>67023573
which one

>> No.67023659

that second audio was not me. my real voice is a lot more disappointing
https://voca.ro/1je8GgK1GYWu

>> No.67023789

>>67023573
I'm going to draw Rura being bisected faggot.
But you would like that, wouldn't you?

>> No.67023826

>>67022573
What are the pro strats to build a viewers harem like Riro Ron/Kyoresu did?

How to encourage developing a parasocial relationship with the audience and start dating all my paid viewers at the same time?

>> No.67023834

>>67023648
Does it matter? This thread is unironically a lot worse for crabbing than /asp/

>>67023659
Be a good sheep girl and go to /asp/ Mutton, this place won't reward you

>> No.67023895
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puzzla
https://jiggie.fun/mHmvrT

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>>67023826
>What are the pro strats to build a viewers harem like Riro Ron/Kyoresu did?

do you really need a strat? it seems very straightforward

>> No.67023991

>>67023659
Both voices are fine, just play different characters or moods.

>> No.67024073

How can I attract parasocials? I want to build an audience committed to me.

>> No.67024175

>>67022745
>You can get to a certain point on your own if you have the skillset otherwise it's all luck

Thanks anon. I got to where I am solo so I guess I will just work on that and hope I can get better at making friends online.

>> No.67024194
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>>67023834
>Does it matter?

>>67024073
GFE and ASMR spam

>> No.67024284

>>67023659
I am begging you drop the fake loli voice. Holy mother of pure sex I love your real voice

>> No.67024318

>>67024194
Can I do good ASMR on a USB mic?

>> No.67024355

>>67024318
Ask this on /asp/ and I'll give you an actual answer.

>> No.67024375

>>67023659
I like this more. I love zatsudans. I can't stand loli squeaky voice for long period of time.

>> No.67024384

>>67023659
I think your regular voice is fine , Kiara fucked herself up by going higher.
You dont have to pile up all the buffs, just as many as you can without compromising your fun
>>67024318
lol no

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>>67024355

>> No.67024612

>>67023659
second voice is perfect, anon. it'll be healthier in the long run, too. have faith in yourself!

>> No.67024618

is it worth setting up a throne?

>> No.67024623

>>67023659
Your real voice is fine too

>> No.67024655

>>67023659
I love your regular voice. It fits the sheep well. The loli voice is generic and sounds painful. You might ruin your voice too. Can you keep up the loli voice for hours? If you find success and build an audience you will have to keep it up for years. I just find it unnecessary because your regular
voice is really nice.

>> No.67024727

>>67023659
your real voice is nice!

>>67024618
yes, just be sure to use someone else adress so you cant be doxed when they fucking leak everything
It's like taxfraud but legal

>> No.67024822

>>67024618
I'd rather wait for someone to suggest it. If you don't wanna wait just put shit for streaming and cheap stuff

>> No.67024968

>>67024822
yeah, thats been my issue
i havent added anything for donations as i feel like it looks like im begging

>> No.67025032

>>67024968
don't think about it as begging
It's more of panhandling
You are that guy with the guitar in the subway who has dreams of making it big, not the alcoholic hobo besides him

>> No.67025149

>>67024618
Ask this on /asp/ and I'll give you an actual answer.

>> No.67025427

>>67023659
This is actually very good voice to have, you shouldnt be so insecure

>> No.67025461

>>67023977
I mean, yeah, I don't want to fuck it up by accident
I am fucking dumb

>> No.67025546

>>67023826
Ask this on /asp/ and I'll give you an actual answer.

>> No.67025606

>>67025461
the only way to fuck it up is being part of a corpo... or getting a twittlonger by a groom target

>> No.67025609

>>67024968
Unless you keep bringing up your throne, I don't think it's that big of a deal. From my experience, someone will eventually ask for it

>> No.67025884

If the GFE is blatant it feels empty and fake. You will also attract mentally ill unsociable viewers that harass you.

>> No.67025941

I think a little sister persona can attract the same sort of person right? Rather than straight GFE

>> No.67026035

>>67025884
how to attract oilers then

>> No.67026052

>>67025546
Sure, buddy
There you have it:
>>67025991

>> No.67026090

>>67026035
Aiming for an oiler is NGMI behavior. You want to leave your livelihood up to a single person? Listen to yourself

>> No.67026182

>>67023659

I go between loli, my normal voice and doing a deeper voice, play around with it, you don't have to stick to just one hun.

>> No.67026184

>>67026090
>up to a single person?
several of them if possible

>> No.67026255

>>67026184
You'll have 1 or 2 at most. They want to groom you and make you theirs. The moment you show favor to one over the other there's going to be discourse.

>> No.67026420

>>67026255
virgin having only one
chad dating all of them at once and speedrunning burning their money

>> No.67026512

I want to collab with other female streamers but I want to get to know them first to make sure our senses of humor actually match and that it would be good content. Should I message people and see if they just wanna play games and stuff off stream? It feels sort of weird to do it out of the blue… Personally would you all care if another vtuber asked you randomly to play games?

>> No.67026557

>>67026420
That's how you get to where Taiga is

>> No.67026646

>>67026512
Go to /asp/ and I'll give you a real answer.

>> No.67026662

>>67026512
>Should I message people and see if they just wanna play games and stuff off stream? It feels sort of weird to do it out of the blue
first follow them on twitter and raid them, introduce yourself, then hang out with them in their streams, then dm them to see if she interested in having a talk.
Then if you like each other is where you can invite her to play some games

>> No.67026765

>>67026512
>Personally would you all care if another vtuber asked you randomly to play games?
out of nowhere it would be weird but you can probably jump on anyone who raided your first RAW

>> No.67026772

>>67026646
okay

>> No.67026954

>>67026512
Cold messaging is usually a no-no. Best way is what anon said, raid them first, stay and chat

>> No.67027037

>>67026954
follow them on twitter too, I seen too many vtubers complain about it
They still have this old media mentality where your worth is your follow/follower ratio
No one gives a fuck about that anymore follow everyone thats what the japanese do

>> No.67027248

>>67027037
I imagine their pov getting dozens of cold dms from clout chasers.This is why I hate mahjong vtubers. Mention it once on your stream, they'll cold DM you "Jong?"

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>>67027248
>Mention it once on your stream, they'll cold DM you "Jong?"

Thats because those people have a problem, it's not even about streaming anymore

>> No.67027798

Hello ladies.

Please if you may, take a picture when your raise up your shoulder so it creates that pit between your collarbone and your trapezius muscle.

Thank you.

>> No.67028000

>>67027433
This, half the aspie males hang around whoever is streaming mahjong at that moment and leave as soon as they stop playing.

>> No.67028274

>>67028000
is mahjong a buff for women? go figure

>> No.67028300

>>67028000
Leeches

>> No.67028421

>>67028274
Any male autism game is a buff for women.
Look at Clio.

>> No.67028600

>>67028300
The literal opposite, they only want to play friendlies and will do even with 0 view chuubas, they are addicted

>> No.67028699

>>67028421
Map gamers yearn for women. Lumi, Clio, and Chiwa got boosts for playing autism strategy games.

>> No.67028815

>>67028600
that explains how Diamandis knows uwu

>> No.67029326

>>67028421
>Clio
>women

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67029383

How do I make friends with her... she's doing this the way I want to do this, but I'm not sure how to reach out

>> No.67029600

>>67029383
Mint? She is approachable. Get an "architect" model, her fans will ask her to raid you all by themselves and beg for collabs

>> No.67029695

>>67029383
She only collabs with her group and partner #'s chuubas

>> No.67030222

>>67029695
making it to partner opens so many doors...

>> No.67030477

>>67029383
She self-shilled on wvt for a year and it was annoying af

>> No.67030578

>>67030477
that doesnt answer the question

>> No.67030702

>>67030477
That was partly me

>> No.67030908

>>67030702
and me

>> No.67031611

>Be me
>Low 2view
>Already have loyal fans
>Yet GFE is a debuff
How do I profit from my normie fanbase?

>> No.67031643

What chuubas /here/ ignore are loyal viewers. The ones who will recommend you to their big number chuubas to raid . Instead you focus on your /here/ chuuba friends who don't have influence

>> No.67031834

>>67031611
react videos

>> No.67032023

>>67031611
>Yet GFE is a debuff
You got the most normies, normies in the universe or what?

>> No.67032667

>>67032023
My audience came from videos that have nothing to do with vtubing. I have some people that react well to the GFE but they're fairly young and poorfags, for some reason the ones who actually donate treat me more like a retarded sister, so I wonder if I'm trying to fill the wrong niche based on my personality

>> No.67032937

>>67032667
well, play the little sister angle for now I suppose.
You will be able to mentally break them later with paywalled GFE ASMR

>> No.67033035

>>67032667
>for some reason the ones who actually donate treat me more like a retarded sister
And they don't want sexy incest with their retarded sister? lmao

>> No.67033110

>>67031643
I try my hardest to pay equal attention to all my viewers anon, but I’m probably failing anyways. Hopefully you’re not my viewer if you’re feeling neglected.

>> No.67033480

>>67033110
based and gmi attitude

>> No.67033646

>>67031643
well if you want some clouty cutthroad advice see which viewers are followed by chuubas with big numbers.
Chuubas will follow each other for any reason but they will only follow that viewer if that motherfucker is influential
Hanabi has more clout than all of males in asp combined, thats why they want to bring down and are crabbing him

>> No.67034417

>>67033110
I can't remember any /asp/ie I watched that doesn't priortize other /asp/ies in chat. The alien read as much as she can but there aren't much /asp/ies in her chat and she did art streams only.

There's even one who can't seem chat with a normal viewer and I think he ended the stream early because it's just him and me

>> No.67034568

>>67033646
Literally nobody except 1 or 2 schizos don't like Hanabi, you're constant "/asp/ le bad" is obvious, groomer

>> No.67034586

i wanna be mond's friend but im a male...

>> No.67035179

>>67034586
skill issue but also offtopic in this thread

>> No.67035359 [SPOILER] 

>>67034586
Ask her to guide you in converting to Catholicism. That's your way in.

>> No.67037005

How to get people to sub more to your channel?? How am I getting 30ccv and no new subscribers, how can I keep people in the door

>> No.67037272

>>67037005
Ask this in /asp/ and I'll give you a serious answer

>> No.67037904

>>67037005
youtube shorts and work in your retention skills during raids

>> No.67038885
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>>67037005
Well it means you need to work on your discoverability skills, and obviously network.
As >>67037904 said, you need to work on your clip game so people find you

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puzzle close to being completed

>> No.67041066

>>67037005
People sub mostly because of emotes and to be in a position of privilege in respect to other viewers
Bea community used to bully the fuck out of the "grays". It is a status symbol. Make it one.
Good tier 3 emotes go all the way. A funny trick is to have the same emotes of the lower tiers but in silver and golden, which shows you got the "premium version" of the thing everyone else got

>> No.67041126

Would posting my naked body on Twitter like Zenya help me incline?

>> No.67041180

>>67029383
She likes retro games and radio broadcast so maybe start exploring those niches

>> No.67041252

>>67041126
yes, obviously
but once a hoe you are nothing mo

>> No.67041485

>>67013481
>the most insane vtuber is also the sanest vtuber

>> No.67041526

>>67013481
Shondo is a cutter

>> No.67041595

>>67041485
once you know you are crazy you try not to act crazy, it's only those who dont think they are crazy go all out in their insanity

>>67041526
so is like 50% of the girls around here

>> No.67041625

What do anons use for payment processes? I’m worried that linking my credit card or paypal just to something like steam could dox me. Is there any alternative or way to get around this? Or am I too worried and am being schizo about something small that probably won’t happen

>> No.67041658

>>67041595
>so is like 50% of the girls around here

Only confirmed ones are Lava, Denpa, Gumpai and Pafu.

>> No.67041675
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puzzle done

also is there a way to zoom in this game?

>> No.67042012

>>67041658
Hey I haven’t cut in like 5 years, I’ve developed worse coping mechanisms !

>> No.67042302

Okay, I have a ton of videos reuploaded back in YouTube and I am like, how the fuck I do shorts with them so I can try to gather more views and potential viewers.

I downloaded one of them and found a nice clip but I have no way to cut it in fucking 1:69 or the fucking shitty format it uses with my video editor and the others I tried suck ass or are just too complex.

Can't I just do it somehow with the YouTube built-in editor? I can't find the hypothetical button to do that.

Also, tips in general on how many shorts should I pop up and about what. Can't I just cut the full stream in shorts and upload it and pray, right?

And for the "ask this in /asp/ people": >>67041405

>> No.67042378

>>67042302
I think shorts are just determined by length of video?

>> No.67042436

>>67041675
Scroll. Also, all me.

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>>67042436
Thank you for your efforts
Also how big should the images be?

next puzzle loading

>> No.67042603

>>67042302
>And for the "ask this in /asp/ people"
ignore that guy, he is just having a meltdown because he can't shit up this thread with his gay erp

/wasp/ is basically /asp/ without the ads, being the ads self promo from male vtubers or just them being horny for each other

>> No.67042661

>>67042603
>rather than giving any advice just complain about shit

/asp/ wins again

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Puzzla

https://jiggie.fun/RON

>>67023977
Donto whora

>>67024073
Donto parasocira

>>67024175
donto afraida

>>67024318
I donto knowa

>>67024618
set throna

>>67026090
Donto oila

>>67027433
Actually I play mahjong too, it is very popular in the fighting game community, Should we play matches and puzzles here?Fig never wants to play

>>67028421
play fightan

>>67031611
You laugh you losa

>>67031643
Donto Ignora

>>67034586
Oila

>>67041126
Donto nake

>>67042012
Donto cutta

>>67042302
Donwload real softwa


Damn that was a big gap between puzzles

>> No.67043232

>>67042302
>>I downloaded one of them and found a nice clip but I have no way to cut it in fucking 1:69 or the fucking shitty format it

A trick I seen is to have the screen on top and your model behind

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>>67043232
like this

>> No.67043395

>>67025884
Yeah but the females that are likely to stream need to actively watch out or they will become gfe without even realizing it. There are fuckers so lonely out there that even basic kindness can make them parasocial and women have a tendency to act all cutesy and misleading even if they care no more about you than the average anon here

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>>67042302
>Also, tips in general on how many shorts should I pop up and about what.
Your funniest jokes, remember this is basically your introduction card. A good meta is to tell a story with a hilarious ending, Pippa is the master of this.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/1c8HCqZ0zp8

>Can't I just cut the full stream in shorts and upload it and pray, right?
If you are funny any minute and any second of the stream go ahead.

>> No.67043612

>>67026420
Most people fail to come of as someone that treats everyone equally in the public spaces. I can only think of one that does it really well but most always do things like reading someones chats more or laughing more at their messages and generally acting more cheered up when they are present. If you desire to be a successful gfe streamer you have to be able to hold back such emotions and only show those that make everyone feel included

>> No.67043676

>>67043395
Way too many female chuubas will take advantage and turn it around on you after exhausting your wallet. The real ones will set boundaries from the start.

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>>67043676
maybe I want women to take advantage of me have you thought about that

>> No.67043785

>>67042302
>Can't I just do it somehow with the YouTube built-in editor?
I use capcut. It's intuitive and free

>> No.67044001

>>67041625
It wont as long as you use secure passwords and maybe some 2fa too. What could fuck you is reusing an email that is connected to your irl identity (a lot of sites are stupid and will at least partially reveal where their security related emails are being sent) or sharing a non business paypal as well as one that has not been set up right

>> No.67044069

>>67041625
I have someone I trust make payments and then I pay him but little bitches here will also say thats "tax fraud"

>> No.67044090

>>67043676
If they have autism they will do everything the hard way and fail to see all the blatantly obvious red flags

>> No.67044163

>>67041625
>Or am I too worried and am being schizo about something small that probably won’t happen

Not schizo at all streamlabs donos is the number 1 method of doxxing vtubers

The second method is uploading your copyright content so you throw them a DMCA and thats how they dox you since you gave youtube your address

>> No.67044211

>>67041625
>What do anons use for payment processes?
I pay in cripto when I can

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>>67043734

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>>67044306

>> No.67044828

To any viewers I advise you to be careful. VTuber whimsies erps and sends fake nudes to her viewers then plays victim when viewers ask her out.

>> No.67044968

>>67044828
At this point i can't believe anyone takes those tweeters seriously. Everyone knows that half of the vtubing industry is closet sexworkers. Don't become one if you can't deal with the shit that you're getting paid for.

>> No.67045008

>>67044828
ah the old "pulling a yozora"
we live in scary times, brother

>> No.67045076 [DELETED] 

Jong?

>> No.67045373

>>67044069
>>67044163
>>67044211
thanks
>>67044001
do you have any idea what would be the right way to set up a business paypal? i was thinking of doing this. sorry if this is too much spoonfeeding, and thank you for the response

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>>67045076
im down to playing if anyone wants to
surely I am not the only viewer here right?

>> No.67045701

>>67045373
actually it was mentioned a few threads ago that business paypal might dox you too
It is safer than a normal one tho

>> No.67045846

>>67045373
I don't remember the process step by step anymore but you somehow need to make sure that its showing your business profile to the world and that it does not have your irl details attached. Paypal is not designed for privacy so they don't really hold your hand with this

>> No.67045875

>>67045076
Not this shit here too

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dv4wSjZp4wo
Dino in the op is live

>> No.67046317

.>>67045875
Do people drop rooms in asp?

>> No.67046357

>>67046317
Sometimes. There used to also be tetris games too.

>> No.67046435

>>67046357
maybe i should check then, I will cntr F

>> No.67046465

>>67046317
Normally not, that's more of a /pcg/ thing, /asp/ies will just camp on whoever is streaming the game and wait to get into the rooms, and leave as soon as mahjong is over, I don't get what they see in the game since I haven't tried it yet but they are a plague.

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67046518

Puzzla ready
next puzzle soon

> /asp/ies will just camp on whoever is streaming the game and wait to get into the rooms, and leave as soon as mahjong is over

yeah thats what I suspected, I would need viewers to start a mahjong wasp club but i might be the only non streamer in this place

>> No.67046604

>>67046518
link or am i just retarded?

>> No.67046638

>>67046518
im viewer and jonger, dont care about being on a stream id just play jong.

>> No.67046643

>>67046604
>Soon

>> No.67046661

>>67046643
reading comrpehension is something i need to improve on

>> No.67046717

>>67046638
same, I actually enjoy watching jong streams more than playing in the rooms since I enjoy chatting a lot

>> No.67046769

>>67046661
It happens to the best of us, I didn't notice there was no link either until I read the post again

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>>67046604
Puzzla
https://jiggie.fun/Js1LtS

Im going to sleep, good night
>>67046717
>>67046638
drop a room tomorrow during dead hours

>> No.67047164

>>67045701
i’ll do my reps and check it out, thanks. i noticed while setting up an account that paypal starts you off with a “share my information with people who have or will search my phone number/email/name” option checked so that may be the issue, but i’ll do more digging. god i hate that companies do this shit, no i don’t want your shitty location services or personalized ads and i especially don’t want people i know to find me online
>>67045846
what i’m getting from a cursory search is people telling me i’ll be fine with just a new email + business name not associated with my real identity but i’ll keep digging because i don’t know if i fully trust that, thanks for responding

>> No.67047207

>>67047132
goodnight

>> No.67047376

My girlfriend has been talking about wanting to become a vtuber, any tips on the best ways to start her out?

>> No.67047677

>>67047376
Make her confirm you're her bf during her debut stream to clear any future misunderstandings

>> No.67048018

>>67047164
Paypal used to just diplay business name without your private infos but I've heard last year they will be changing that. Better ask them yourself.

The only secure way I know is setup an LLC. It's relatively cheap. You can use its info to register with Paypal. However, some state/country doesn't allow anonymous LLC (e.g. California)

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