/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>66854879
>homo collabing whore
And NOTHING of value was lost

>>66854879
TERMINATED
IT’S NOT FAIR!!!!!

>>66854879
>japan
>being pro women in sexual assault cases
If that shit didn't leak, Cover wasn't even going to fire the guy.

If this didn't happen you'd be calling her this >>66854961

>>66854879
>still gets no mercy and is instantly fired over a small, accidental leak
if she didn't, the other girls could say its preferential treatment

>>66855089
Hololive not getting detroyed after COVERing up sexual harassment is preferential treatment. Mel should have treated them like they deserve, with a legal nuclear bomb

>>66855226
the girls grope each other all the time

>>66855261
>hires a bunch of sexually frustated lesbos
>"they can't get mad at management for touching them, they touch themsselves all the time!"
Bravo Yagoo

>>66854879
Take that as a lesson then, if you ever find yourself in a similar situation, sue the company to death. Never be nice to a corporation.

>>66854879
Black company confirm

>>66855022
>If that shit didn't leak, Cover wasn't even going to fire the guy.
Japanese corpos are still extremely sexist and they didn't even consider giving Mel any slack for breaking NDA. They let her make a single tweet to apologize and than fired her.

How's Mel gonna sue Cover when they already fired the one harassing her?

>>66855787
> not consider mel any slack for breaking NDA
anon you do know that careers and lives get destroyed and shit if you break NDA

its also a reminder that talent can do anything thats within their contract and leaking shit especially something yabai could really land you on a bad spot

>>66855502
A harsh lesson every person has to learn eventually. Corpos aren't your friend. If you are able, sue them for every penny you can milk out of them.

>>66854879
>still gets no mercy and is instantly fired over a small, accidental leak
source: it was revealed to me in a dream

>>66854879
>could have destroyed Hololive in court
Cover isn't in USA, bro.

I guess the hush money wasn't enough for her? Greedy whore

>>66856019
how the fuck is anyone's career or life on the line because some airhead probably told their boyfriend some workplace gossip? You think fucking *Mel* knew anything of actual consequence?

>>66854879
>black company
>>66854961
>unpaid intern shills
Every time

>>66856398
>airhead probably told their boyfriend some workplace gossip?
If she just said to her boyfriend 'Aqua's pregnant rumao' post coitus Cover wouldn't even know. Whatever she has said, and whoever she has said it to has been somewhere that they have been able to become aware of.

>>66856398
>You think fucking *Mel* knew anything of actual consequence
Yes actually, she would know about sponsorship shit or events pre-planned months in advance, hell she definitely knew about behind the scenes shit with cover.

I just wonder how Cover found out if no one, no where has any idea what possibly could have leaked.

If she really did leak something to "e-celeb" friends, sounds like one of those "friends" was awfully jealous.

>>66854879
They are holding a grudge against her for bringing it to light. Japan has a big sexual assault culture in the workplace. This was a huge stain on Cover.

>>66854879
she was fired despite all of this, so the thing she did was so big cover isnt afraid of her suing

>>66856800
>I just wonder how Cover found out
Probably used something they have access to like twitter or discord DMs from Mel accounts. Considering this is something they mutually agreed upon, whoever she leaked to is probably unlikely to show up and be like 'Mel gave me a complete list of Holos Yagoo has fucked' at any point I'd imagine.

>>66857432
Yeah, me. Wait a minute.

>>66857432
>'Mel gave me a complete list of Holos Yagoo has fucked'
the list was nothing but Holostars

>>66854879
>over a leak
>no info on leak
Stupid definition

>>66856609
how does that matter? 'omg there's going to be Gura toys at McDonalds next month!' like who cares? how does that do enough harm to cover to be worth the public black eye and shit storm of firing a gen 1?

>>66856488
but enough about nijisanji.

>>66855502
Then reality sets in and you realize you are out lawyered, out moneyed, and they send people to harass you every day and even bribe the court system and get forced to settle out of court barely enough to pay your lawyer fees

>>66856609
Oh shit she would've leaked the next mario kart event someone hold me!
This is stupid, there's no way she had any potentially dangerous information. And also that information didn't even become public

>>66857432
do they really pay someone to sit there 24/7 and read every girl's private DMs and twitter? and if so why are these girls so fucking stupid as to keep saying sensitive things on there instead of RM accounts when they know they're being monitored like inmates?

>>66857655
yeah the bootlicking cope from some of these drones is insane. 'b..but she could have told someone about an upcoming collab or concert!' yeah, and? who fucking cares.

>>66854879
what did she even leak to get her terminated?

>>66857681
>and if so why are these girls so fucking stupid as to keep saying sensitive things on there instead of RM accounts when they know they're being monitored
Let me tell you anon, Mel is one of the dumbest fucking people I have ever seen in life and people legit do this shit on their work stuff all of the time and get fired world wide already.

>>66857753
>who fucking cares
Cover

>>66857764
Should we assume it’s something embarrassing to an executive?
Hope whatever it is is exposed, as damning or as quibbling as it is, it deserves to be made public now.

>>66854961
imagine being this loser
YIKES

>>66857794
but why? I own a business myself. Obviously its not to the scale of Cover, but if an employee gossips about products we're going to sell next year, or a shipment thats coming in next week, or even more serious stuff like 'I make more money than employee x! soandso got the job by fucking manager y!' it doesn't affect anything. it doesn't matter. I'm just curious why cover is so anal about this shit to this degree.

>Mel handles the whole thing very professionally considering what happened
>Seem like she was cooperative with the process and that it was handled privately unlike Rushia who through a shitfit about it looking retarded
>Said she did it, people said they were really sorry she had to go and she said she was sorry instead of making a big deal looking very professional and saving face
>People are running this by acting like retards
Stop making these threads and ruining this you fucking tards.

>>66857681
>and if so why are these girls so fucking stupid as to keep saying sensitive things on there instead of RM accounts when they know they're being monitored like inmates?
Yes, they are. You'd be surprised at the amount of people sending shit they shouldn't be through work emails and shit. People are retards.

>>66858008
>I'm just curious why cover is so anal about this shit to this degree
Cover is a Japanese company anon

>>66854879
From her tweets and how the other girls react, it likely wasn't the best for both sides. Probably a big fuck-up that she didn't think through, it got discovered and the investors had a big no-no moment with anything being leaked ever again.
I wish her the best nontheless, she was cute in some collabs.

>>66857597
Not if you actually win

>>66857554
>Im gonna have to ask for the girl toy again.
It's 2011 all over again.

>>66858008
>youru bringu gleat shamu overu ouru company, kanojo, comittu seppuko now!

>>66854879
>>could have destroyed Hololive in court
No, not really, legally Cover did the best thing a corpo could do, fire him and that was all they could do, shamefully after that it becomes the talent's problem. Op forgets that at the time there were no Vtuber laws and the sexual harrassment laws in japan are a fucking joke, if she wanted to report him to the police and get some action done she HAD to be raped, which shamefully for you didn't happen, that's why she contacted a friend and got a lawyer involved.
Had Cover at the time gone scorch earth on the guy it would have been a total disaster for them because the harrasser could counter sue the company for (get this) massive harrassment.
Right now laws are better for Vtuebrs and women but back then... damn i wish i was in japan at that time.

>>66857794
>The same company that didn't care when Mel was almost raped and just fired the guy cause the case came out to the public...
Hm... I would call Hololive a sexist company but that's almost all companies in Japan so it's just the norm, sadly

>>66858008
>an employee gossips about products we're going to sell next year
And then 6 months later your competitor releases similar products and eats your lunch.
>I make more money than employee x!
Now employee X is demanding to know why they get paid less.
>soandso got the job by fucking manager y
Soandso and Manager Y both lose their shit because they don't want a rumor like that floating around the company.
>it doesn't matter
lol

>>66857951
i just find it puzzling that the supposed reason for termination is leaking information and yet nobody really knows what was actually leaked. if nobody knows then nothing was leaked and no harm was done, so it seems like a bogus reason to kill off someone. this seems especially shitty considering covers history with her.

>>66858513
I wonder if she'll now sue them for the rape thing

>>66858357
>Now employee X is demanding to know why they get paid less.
It's illegal in almost every country to prevent your employee from discussing their salary. Company policies are not NDA and they're non enforcable.

>>66858513
Unless you are in her friend circle or management how would you or anyone on this board know? There could be people saying the correct shit in jp boards and you have no idea due to all the rrats and being an EOP.

>>66854961
looks like cover is copying anycolor's approach of unpaid interns huh

>>66859164
I'm not sure that's true and even in countries where employees have protections, there are limitations. "Company policies" is a lot broader, some of it confidential, some of it isn't.

>>66858357
yes they're all minor inconveniences, and the violator would need to be suspended, fined, yelled at, whatever. But if they were a lifelong, valuable, high up employee it doesn't seem like any of that type of stuff would be an instant FATALITY situation.

>>66859256
That's not true, we immediately find out about information from Japanese message boards if it's important. There are enough bilingual anons on both sites that would immediately spread this.
It's information on the internet, nothing spreads faster than that

>>66859256
>and you have no idea due to all the rrats
which is my point really. if nobody brought this to light then nobody would really know and the 'leak' would only get proven true once that something came to fruition or it would get forgotten like everything else. instead they are fueling all this autism and its more likely that this supposedly very serious leak actually comes to light.
personally i kinda hope that it comes back to bite them due to mels past incidents, but thats probably wishful thinking. corporations never get punished.

>>66854879
>unironic whore in an idol agency
she should be happy she got to stay with them for as long as she did

>>66859528
exactly. every degenerate weeb wants to be the one with the clout to 'break' the story. It would spread like wildfire if it existed, it always does. But not even a hint this time.

>>66855089
what was the leak?

>>66855502
based. This situation is definitely a wake up call to never fucking treat any corpo like "family" because they will throw you out the moment they can. fuck that shit.

At a point in my life where I let random faceless japanese women affect my mental state.

>>66859528
This board barely sincerely discusses jp yabs unless they are massive like Rushia. There's tons of shit that trends on jp gossip sites that I never see here. I don't see a single thread is discussing anything 5ch is saying. It's just EOPs playing a game a telephone.

>>66859712
God, use your brain, this is hot news right now, any information about it would be rampant in japanese messageboards if it existed, anons that know english would immediately crosspost it for clout. That happens even just regularly for totally mundane generals, with a massive drama like that OF COURSE would we know of new information if nips were discussing them

>>66859513
How do you define "minor inconveniences" in the legal sense?
If you signed an NDA and you break it, the company is forced to take action, otherwise it becomes a paper tiger, because it sets the precedence that breaking the NDA isn't *that* big of a deal.

>>66859904
they also set the precedence that rape is not *that* big of a deal

Imagine being brutally raped resulting in permanent vaginal and rectal damage then being fired

>>66859904
Non argument. People working for the company won't think breaking NDAs is no big deal, they will know what Mel did and know that THAT was no big deal. To us as an outside observer maybe, but we aren't working in that company

>>66855226
> Mel
> women in Japan

>>66859840
5ch has already been discussing it being insider trading. Yet I don't see any threads sharing that info, just retarded lazy faggots like you waiting to be spoonfed.

>>66857753
Many fans whether for Hololive or Nijisanji are corpo bootlickers that will take the side of management. There is astroturfing and damage control from paid shills but sadly there are fans that only care about defending their favorite billion dollar company.

>>66860410
Do you think an absolute brain dead sub 70 iq wet brain retard like Mel is capable of that?

>>66860410
lurk more, ive seen a few people mention that

>>66860410
>>66839823
Retard, never try again
It just got no traction because there isn't a lick of proof.

>>66854879
This why your boss is not your friend. Employer employee are natural contradictory positions much like slave and master, or lord an serf. They will exploit you as much as they can.

>>66855502
True, never ever place your 100% trust in a company, HR, or your boss. If they have any sort of responsibility for you, know that they will sell you out if it saves themselves.

>>66857597
Maybe in Japan. In my country (Mexico) the workers usually win and corporations end up swallowing their own pride.

>>66860081
>they will know what Mel did and know that THAT was no big deal
Also if you believe it was mutual, even Mel realises she fucked up.

>>66856398
You usually don't get fired over something like sharing work gossip with a family member (actual high security jobs notwithstanding), especially in an industry as porous as entertainment. She likely did something very stupid and very deliberate to get canned for this.

Also jannies are all shit skinned niggers whose mothers kept the wrong part of the after birth. Suck my swollen clit you fucking monkey.

>>66855089
Are they all backstabbing whores to be more worried about others not being punished enough than fighting for everyone to have the same rights?

>>66854879
Yup, this is it. Maybe COVER was right to terminate her, but it's also the truth that Mel could've sued COVER for the sexual harassment incident but didn't. While I don't know if it would have been the right thing to forgive Mel for whatever breach she committed, I don't like how she gets tossed away after sparing COVER a legal battle she should have had the right to win. Fuck Japan's corpo cuck culture that throws people under the bus. I'm gonna stop watching Hololive altogether and I hope I'll never come back. This one's for Rushia.

>>66854879
many don't know, it's Mel how give a slut signal first, the staff just dumb enough to that seriously, get mald and cover settle none faults

>>66855022
>Male
>2.0 remodel
>1.5 upgrade
>alumni status

>Female
>banishment room
>1.0 la goblina
>Termination
>Erased

I’m beginning to think Japanese corporations are not very nice.

>>66855022
>fire the guy
Yes he still working with cover,
the stalker and creepy mane is different case

>>66854879
>Implying she isn't currently suing cover for the the incident.
>Cover has no choice but to fire her, counts her talking about her harassment as breaking the NDA and uses it as an excuse

>>66859840
>use your brain
Use your brain you fucking retard, whoever she leaked shit to is likely someone who would rather not be on Cover's shit list, so they aren't going to be passing on anything to anyone who will spread the shit. Not everyone is some drama monkey. All you're going to find is shit posting.

Okay, who let the Battle Network 4 scriptbot loose?
>>66862180

>>66854879
>got no mercy
She absolutely got mercy. Just firing her is merciful when they have every legal right to ruin her life in the court system for breaching an NDA.

>>66860045
Shouldn't have chosen to be female then

>>66854879
> after getting harassed and almost raped by staff
Nijiniggers getting desperate

>>66855022
Japan is safer for women than the west

>>66855502
Seethe, commie. Cover is based

>>66862278
>On Covers shit list
???
And do what? Have them assassinate the guy? Lmao they can't do shit against someone outside their company that they had no agreement with. If they get any information and publish that, that is just free speech and press. They aren't under NDA.

>>66854961

>>66855723
>black company is when you fire someone for breaking their contract
Ogey

>>66855787
> Japanese corpos are still extremely sexist
Troon please go back

>>66856914
> Japan has a big sexual assault culture in the workplace
No it doesn’t. Stop believing normalfag memes and fuck off back to western twitter

>>66862684
>breaking contract
According to themselves

>>66862180
>Mel could've sued COVER for the sexual harassment incident but didn't
I have a feeling that they probably paid her off in exchange for signing away the right to do this. Unfortunately for her, cover was a lot smaller back then, so she's probably bitter that she got peanuts relative to what she can get today.

>>66862684
>ignores the sexual harassment to bootlick
I kneel holopony

>>66857534
>>no info on leak
It’s called a non disclosure agreement for a reason, anon

>>66858109
Japanese hobby, normalfag

>>66862684
I seriously hope you never become a victim of predatory lending

>>66858271
> sexual harrassment laws in japan are a fucking joke, if she wanted to report him to the police and get some action done she HAD to be raped, which shamefully for you didn't happen
None of this is true. Stop using a graduation over a fucking NDA as an excuse to push your anti-Japanese propaganda

>>66862110
Yes, that behavior is normal for idol and internet groups.

>>66854879
eh do you want them to actually reveal what she leaked? it wont look any good for her

>>66860045
Imagine being a pathetic nijinigger and or vshojotranny and spreading lies about Hololive all day

>>66862327
Ive had a borderline autistic obsession with Megaman Battle Network since I was 8 years old and I have no idea what you meant by that

>>66854961
BASED BASED BASED

>>66862253
Why? For firing someone who broke NDA? God forbid a company enforces it’s policies. Oh but they’re Japanese, right? So according to you everything they do is inherently bad

>>66854879
anon, her rm +18 jav got leaked
this is why it was not her fault

>>66862713
how new are you to not know this. let me guess, you don't believe there's discrimination against gaijin either lolol.

>>66862556
>nobody reports anything
And nothing bad ever happened!

>>66862786
Not an argument
>>66862834
What sexual harassment?
>>66862912
Predatory lending? I thought she was raped by Cover staff. You Niji shills should really pick a narrative and stick with it

Damn, are vampire models cursed or something?

>>66862842
>She was fired for an NDA she didn't follow and leaked information
>Huh? Of course that information isn't public! There's an NDA!
You know how dumb this sounds, retardchama?

>>66863187
Recognising that basic gender roles exist isn’t sexist you dilating tranny
>>66863218
Cope

>>66862768
Yes it does you fuckin loser, read a book

>>66854879
I'm honestly still fucking confused as to what happened with Mel.
Like I get that she is leaving, probably got fired or something, but what exactly happened?
People say she broke some NDA or whatever, and there were some sexual harassment involved too but I haven't gathered much else.

>>66863364
She leaked to third parties, that doesn’t necessarily mean the public

>>66863373
Go back. You will never belong here

>>66862959
All of it is true you massive weeb. Try living in Japan for once instead of watching anime

>>66863465
>using weeb as an insult on 4chan of all places
Embarrassing. Go join the 41%

>>66863413
Oh and those third parties were just so malicious that they gave that info to cover but not malicious enough to make it public, right

>>66863265
>What sexual harassment?
lol. did people really forget about that already?

>>66854961
>Brings up homos for no reason
Unicucks truly are mentally ill.

>>66863413
why would said 3rd parties not release this amazing information then? and if they had no plans to do so, then its not really a leak is it?

>>66863389
The sexual harassment stuff is old history, anything new about that is rrats.

>>66863538
> they gave that info to cover
Implying
>>66863541
>can’t answer my question
Lol the absolute state of nijiniggers

>>66863620
> why would said 3rd parties not release this amazing information then?
How the hell would I know?
> and if they had no plans to do so, then its not really a leak is it?
A leak is when you leak something protected by a NDA. What the third party chooses to do with the information is beyond the point

Mel was literally the most beautiful JP member so i believe the sekuhara theory

>>66863670
??? Yeah, if they didn't give that info to Cover how would Cover know about an alleged SECRET interaction between mel and them?
Or this is all bullshit and the real reason is something comletely different

>>66862180
>Maybe COVER was right to terminate her, but it's also the truth that Mel could've sued COVER for the sexual harassment incident but didn't.
Cover is handling this badly since they did put Mel through hell because they wouldn't fire her manager that was stalking her. From a western viewpoint they owed Mel for not turning that into a lawsuit. Instead they fired her for what must have a gossip level break in her NDA, made her final communication be a public apology, and terminated her without a graduation stream. Vesper and Magni got fired but they were new employees and were already on thin ice because of the redesign fights. Mel was a 5 year Hololive veteran and management still fired her in a cold manner.

>>66859904
Lol most NDA are complete bogus shit that wont hold up in court, If people actually had a brain they would know this.

>>66863766
> if they didn't give that info to Cover how would Cover know about an alleged SECRET interaction between mel and them?
Maybe Cover found out themselves, or another third party told them

>>66864055
>a fourth party
> >>66863538
We're looping, this is stupid

so what did she disclose

>>66864111
The public doesn’t know. All we know is that Mel has been graduated for leaking protected information. Whether it was on purpose or not is unknown. Regardless, she broke her contract and this is what happens

>>66862253
same, fuck them all, not a chance was given to someone who served the company for 5 fucking years, ur oshi could be the next over some fucking stupid mistakes

>>66854879
whats this story about rape?

>>66862253
The japs are honestly the closest a human can be to a robot, they're kinda weird

Cover can do no wrong, Mel will be forgotten and abandoned for betraying the cause I LOVE HOLOLIVE death be to all who defend Mel the traitor whore, and to anyone who wishes to follow in her footsteps this is your last and only warning KNOW YOUR PLACE SLUT you're nothing without hololive we MADE you an idol and we can take you down to the dump if you step out of line I LOVE HOLOLIVE

>>66864256
Don’t break contract then. Funny how the vast majority of vtubers in Hololive are completely fine and have a healthy workplace relationship with management. It’s almost as if your narrative about Japanese corpos all being bad is nothing but anti-Japanese racism

>>66864298
Nijinigger fanfiction

>>66862646
Gee, I wonder why someone potentially in the same kind of industry might prefer to not have Cover not what anything to do with them. It's really a fucking mystery that one.

>>66863153
A western company would provide some leeway for a legacy hire that nobody wants to be fired because we aren't autistic faggots obsessed with rules. Leave it to japs to can someone that literally everyone loves from top to bottom because muh nda.

>>66864298
she was allegedly raped by her manager and when she ran to get help was raped again

>>66854879
Hololive is always right, ex-hololive talents are all whores and wrong about everything.

If you don't like it, go watch nijisanji and become a nijinigger

>>66864422
Hello intern shill tell Yagoo we don't want any more fucking homos in EN

>>66864312
>>66864321
Go back

>>66864312
This is definitely true when it comes to japanese big corps and the govt, but cover is actually still pretty small.

>>66864453
Go follow a western (jewish) hobby then, normalfag

>>66864483
Minorities are to be protected, chud

>>66864477
Which niji talent has graduated this time?

>>66864510
Fuck off, troon. The JP govt and companies are based

So what I'm getting at is that
>Mel is sexually harassed/raped by her manager
>this would destroy hololive as a brand and their trust
>Mel gets paid to stfu and obviously signs a contract to agree to this settlement
>Mel then confesses her situation to an outsider
>Mel broke NDA and is immediately fired, won't even get a graduation stream
cover interns and corpo bootlickers are damage controlling this
We are THIS close to finding out Cover's own Harvey Weinstein and potentially securing the safety of many hololive talents but shills would rather pretend nothing is happening

>>66864254
It doesn't make sense to me that it would land in the hands of someone unaffiliated with Cover but then not published at all. This is what makes me think it's just an excuse

>>66864551
YWNBJ

Hopefully she'll start whoring herself out even harder on her roommates

>>66864601
Looks like her name is Mel something? And she was fired for leaking information about her corporate rape case? Shit that's fucked up huh

>>66864321
Ok but what does goobus have to do with this other than being the biggest hololiver? She's not exactly adamantly working for them

>>66864666
>pls procreate

>>66855226
>they

>>66864431
>In the same industry
Oh right, they must be so scared that cover is shutting their business down bogdanoff style. This is stupid, they have no power over that third party.
Also Mel would know if they betray her, this simply can't be the explanation because it doesn't seem anyone leaked it for her, but then how did they find out?

>girl A breaks NDA
>company decides not to act because they like her
>girl B breaks NDA
>company nails her to the cross
>girl B cites girl A not getting the same treatment despite doing the same thing
>girl B can take company to court and sue
>suddenly the NDA in their contract has no teeth and is non-enforceable
It's not that hard to figure out.

>>66864690
thats because shills enjoy the fantasy of their oshi getting raped behind the scenes obviously

>>66863366
no its true, i knew someone who lived there and every other week he had a story of someone getting sexhara/raped. he was doing law at uni there and said that theres hardly any reports because of the way society is over there. noone speaks up because they are afraid to look different. if noone speaks up other than victim = no evidence, and no evidence + corrupt police = victim gets raped more

id love to live there for a couple years, but i dont think i could put up with seeing that.

>>66864881
This. There wasn't even a suspension, unlike Rushia. And it looks like Mel didn't even know she was in the wrong about anything, since she was streaming and had scheduled to continue streaming.

Threads like this are funny because it's completely clear which posters actually watched streams, or at least knew the talents on a tertiary level via their oshi, and who's just pulling bullshit out of their ass and filtering it through their preconceived notions just to try and create drama.

>>66864989
Don't worry, all the cases of women falsely accusing rape in order to punish a man nullifies all the women who are actually raped and too scared of selfish to report it.

>>66863366
go back to /r9k/ you fucking mongoloid

>>66863366
>>66864989
>"Sexual assault is so rare in Japan!! Look at the stats!!"
Woman only car is just for fun, no issue with women being molested, no mr gaijin.

>>66865062
actually rip ur throat out u disgusting cunt.

dont get me wrong, western women who do that are disgusting wenches too, but people who actually commit that crime should be tortured by their victims to death and their family should be named and shamed on the news. there is no nullification for that. actually kys u rat

>>66864321
Nip corpos have gone full babydicked bugnigger mode as of late with jewtendo and basednii straight up stealing purchased games over single player mods. Jap boomers are killing their respective entertainment industries over their bloated egos, and it's the fans fault for indulging their greedy faggotry.

Expect more holos to get thrown out the windows over refusing to suck corpo dick soon.