/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

RATE THE SESSION

For me a 9/10
The excitement of a character dying is riveting for me
It will go down to a 4/10 if River comes back to life though

you guys are giving arc too much shit, this was just a good reality check and the girls had a lot of fun

holy damn this Nyanners song is legit as fuck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epgBanww7Aw

>>6653173
I think I'm autistic enough to do it myself, but just out of curiosity, has anyone made the nyancube?

>>6653215
Haruka streaming after Arcadum was demoralizing as well, because she has to keep the different emotions in the chat entertained.

>>6653200
It was a drag for me, only got interesting towards the end for the whole shitshow hapening and River dying
I share your last sentiment. If River doesn't die it'll make Arc's writing skills look worse than the one of a 14 year old weeb addicted to shounen anime.

>>6653200
I hope River becomes some kind of antagonist by "being given to the spirits" and she returns to the actual party as a new character. It's pretty early, perfect time to introduce a new party member.

>>6653292
I haven't. Maybe the guy who made it did or something though ehre's the source to look for yourself https://twitter.com/Kiranami_Ch/status/1415734280056197123

Anyway schedule time. Currently live:
Mouse & Mel - Just hanging out and chatting. Nice and comfy wind. Pretty sure neither of them is doing anything special so watch from Mouse or Mel's perspectives https://www.twitch.tv/ironmouse or https://www.twitch.tv/projektmelody

And since it's late tomorrow's schedule

Mel - Chaturbate time!
Mouse - Harem application reviews! There's a lot of those and I'm sure some have been screened and will be gone over on stream.
Mel? - Might be joining Mouse on stream for the reverse harem apps. I'd say it's probably going to happen but as of right now it's still a maybe.
Vei? - Probably more BotW tomorrow. No guarantee though.
Zen? - Yeah, probab.y
Froot? - More likely to stream on weekends so it's definitely a maybe.
Snuffy? - Honestly missed a few too many days by now so probably.


Nyan's got the weekends off, Hime's invisible. Silver's probably off.

>>6653215
I have no idea why only one main campaign was decided by dice out of a pool of experienced players and not both
they really should've just picked a nomral, 10 episode campaign

>>6653014
>be Snuffy simp
>ready to watch DnD
>mfw my obese son insists we watch Melody instead, and I have to oblige because his leg is broken

>>6653451
She's coming back and will probably have some kind of spirit or revenant aspect to her. Arcadum said they needed to talk about what was going to happen.

>>6653483
I think it's a good idea to have a newbie group for a main story and an experienced one for the other even if it did seem like he couldn't make up his mind about how to offer the campaigns, one you can learn along side with and the other is just efficient and can get to the high stakes shit faster. He just needs to tone back upping the stakes shit for the newer group a lot. He's got plenty of time to build that up.

>>6653522
you watch porn with your son?

>>6653385
I disagree. On the one hand it wouldn't be ideal but given all the time and effort that went into this and how he prefers people to actually have fun I 100% wouldn't mind if he did an ass-pull to save her. I doubt he intended for the fight to be as long as it turned out and disappointing the viewers and the players is probably not his intention. If anything I think he would feel bad himself for feeling like he didn't communicate well enough, or making it too difficult and having a negative impact as a result.

Now 20+ episodes in and I would be annoyed if he saved someone who died. But this early is a bit much for a new group.

>>6653572
She canceled that part of it today

>>6653572
Her Twitch isn't porn. She's chillin with Mouse right now.

>>6653215
I'm kind of 50/50 on it. I think its good to throw them into a tough fight to force them to learn, think and act the way they should in encounters but at the same time that boss was way too op for their actual real first fight. Imagine playing a game you're unfilmiar with and you can only choose hardest mode with shit gear. You're probably going to be discouraged from playing it again after a few tries.

>>6653522
consider having a talk with your son about his tastes

>>6653480
>Pretty sure neither of them is doing anything special
Yesterday Mouse said she would play Rust after, but it's looking unlikely at this point.

>>6653289
My friend played this one at his 40th birthday.

https://youtu.be/Taa8jWx3dPc

i am curious about why he didnt give them like a revivify potion or something like that. i think hes got something planned.

>>6653330
She keeps talking about it...

As someone equally invested in the girls and Arcadoodle this is probably my favorite outcome of a session. It sucks, but now everyone knows shit is getting real and due to the cursed mechanics we're diving headfirst into the really good bullshit. Think of the RP opportunities around the death and how each of the girls can grow their characters. It's unironically going to be fantastic.

>>6653798
Damn, is she sad? Honestly her and Nia are the characters I hoped would survive the most. I'm kind of meh on Nyan's character and wouldn't have cared if she had to roll up a new one.

>>6653887
I can tell you who the artists would miss most...

>>6653798
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Gn9A-kdsRo

>>6653887
Nyan's character is the most boring of them all. She just has big boobies.

>>6653864
Only if he sticks with River's death

>>6653887
Lucine at least has her war backstory and her connection to the star dragon or whatever it is. Tomoe on the other hand is literally just "muh dick", nothing else.

This is the thing VShojo tweeted about earlier
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0s4R96q3is
On now (in Japanese) it's weird and confusing
Also there's a frogtuber.... or toadtuber... fuck knows

>>6653798
>Do any mutuals wanna hop in as our 4th? Haruka had tech issues uwu
She's literally blowing off a collab with Bao to rant about this.

What im hoping for in one of Arcadum's campaign is a legendary clash similar to the Akaza vs rRengoku clash
That would be fucking sick
>most of the party are either unconscious or low health
>boss is almost dead
>one final clash to win the fight
I'm such a fan boy for Rengoku

So this is a thing

>>6654091
Well, yes. But if she comes back I like River, so I don't really care either way.

>>6654191
Your rrat is blind my friend

>>6653990
Oh definitely. Tomoe is a cute meme with a huge cock. For me it goes
>love
Nia and River
>really enjoy
Tomoe and Mei
>boring
Lucine

So I drew this last week. She's by far my favorite of the VShojo crew.

>>6654153
they just talked about vshojo, no idea what they said

>>6653451
Is it like using River’s body to make Flesh Golem?

>Mel and Mouse are talking about piss and shy bladders
How the fuck did we get here?

>>6654542
Surprised we weren't here sooner.

>>6654077
Nyan's character could be a good center of the group if she just played upon the captain role and took charge, I think being the first to dive in to save River in the ice water was a good way of doing that but Nyan herself is just so meek it bleeds over into Lucine.

>>6654191
Haruka couldn't get the game to work, and her stream fucking broke whilst she was trying it. Get better bait.

>>6655027
Why did you respond to the bait if you knew it was bait.

>"how are you still alive?"
jesus christ mel

Mel's voice changer is glitching.

HOW FUKCING BASED CAN THIS MOUSE BE

>>6655310
This is what Mouse wants, tho. She doesn't want to be pitied or babied just treated like a friend.

What's mel and mouse doing?

When was the last time we got 700+ replies on a thread?

>>6653215
Is this the new way people fuck with nyanners? Lol it's probably way more effective than spamming hypocrite to get her to drop vtubing

So wheres Arcadium? Shouldn't he be here by now?

>>6655605
wasn't he doing a one shot with his wife (not sexual [no cleanup required])

>>6655541
Stream of consciousness at this point.

>>6655605
He's playing dnd

>>6655541
They've been talking about random shit for 5 hours. Imagine what they're like off line.

>>6655863
>The sekrit discord RPs

>>6655562
Today. Even at the height of autism and shitting we rarely push past 400.

>>6654382
Basically, VShojo is joining V-Clan, a Japanese Vtuber network founded by Nippon TV. Idk why they decided to do so, but I think it will allow them to have an event for Japanese audiences easier.

Just realized that vei said i hope one of us dies at the start of dnd

Funny

>>6656479
Okay. I wonder if this is what Mouse was talking about towards the end of her stream about an announcement. If so, Mel and VShojo retweeted the thing hours ago, but heretofore haven't said shit else about it.

>>6656479
Why would they spend all their time/money/effort to make an independent talent agency and then join some backwards shit japanese org?

>Haruka ended up streaming for about 10 hours today
God this deer is such a sweetie

>>6657750
It's wild how her schedule shows she doesnt stream that much a week, but literally every day she's on her friend's streams for 4-6+ hours hanging out.

I just wish she would tweet/post in her discord about it so it was easier to catch

>>6655541

Mouse was describing the plot of different kinds of smut that she found.

>>6657549
I don't think they're "joining" it like they're giving up on their own agency and joining another that lords over them. However, I don't quite understand what this V-Clan thing is either. I've been staring at the website and poking around trying to figure out exactly what it does, and other than it "holds events" like vtuber festivals and such, I don't know what they actually do. Nippon-TV is involved, and the video I was watching earlier looked like one of those weirdass Japanese talk shows. Needless to say, it didn't help explain squat.

>>6657549
There are more opportunities for chuubas in Japan

Can you anons do me a favor?

I'm going to bed and if Arcadum stops by can you tell him that i want to fuck froot's character
Thanks

>>6658023
>>6658061
>only noticing silver art after she replies to it
pathetic

>>6658069
Does arcadum come to 4chan? I dont follow him, so excuse my ignorance.

>>6658112
yes, he's posted in these threads before

>>6658112
i believe he went to /tg/ a few times

>>6653014
dude arcadum put the girls against a monster far to strong! that thing one shooted most of the group andthe rage/cool off mechanic was to advanced for a group of newbie on dnd like them, the only way they won was by cheesing the curse mechanic, which is fine, but it's really strange a battle like this was their first actual combat, besides the tutorial zombie battle
i don't know why arcadium decided to start the campaign with such a hard monster

>>6658421
Eh, if not for the dice they would've come out on top. Close victory but not pyrrhic.
Seriously, you just don't see rolls land like that. Everything went right for the monster and nothing went right for the girls until that final 20. It was like something awakened after they got out of that water. Fucking insane.

>>6658421
If you took a second to think about it it wont matter the amount of backlash he's gonna get for killing a character, he's just going to bring her back
I don't blame him, i cant imagine the number of messages from sensitive kids telling him to bring her back and then after that all the combats are gonna be boring

>>6657955
I assumed they meant "joining" as in a joint production, like they'd work together for japanese events and shit. Standard cross corporate stuff.

>>6658421
Arcadum's opinion seems to be that it was an optional fight with a tough opponent and that it was impressive that they managed to succeed despite terrible rolls.

And there's a tweet of some kind https://twitter.com/VShojoOfficial/status/1416280495965589505

>>6658936
What the fuck does that even mean? "More content" such as what? Fucking marketing majors.

>>6658986
most likely skits like hololive

>>6658986
Well, if you go to V-Clan's website they have 6 pages of "members", tho I don't know 99% of the vtubers listed there. I think VShojo put this out because the general response so far has been a lot of question marks, and if the replies to this are any indication, there are still question marks.

>>6658561
nah you as a DM have to ensure some type of quality control, a monster having good rolls and the players havign bad ones should create some imbalances and randomness in combat not an almost entire party wipe, specially at the beggining, arcadum created a battle to reliant on particular mechanics like rage and the enviroment, you can't pretend player that never played DnD before grasp all those details on their first battle, arcadium went full DM autistic with this one
the first combat should never have monster that can one shoot the players
>>6658865
giving new players such an "optional fight" is a really cruel trap non of the girls played a tabletop rpg before, let alone arcadium bizarre homebrew DnD

>>6658936
1. As much as I'd love for the girls to have greater presence in Japan... do Japanese viewers even like American vtubers? Vei and Nyanners are the only VShojo girls I can think of that have any kind of Japanese following (Vei had Japanese fans before she joined VShojo and even had fanart done by the Gal Gohan artist, Nyanners had a concert with Kizuna Ai). It feels like anyone who isn't Vei, Nyanners or maybe Iron Mouse would be a Literally Who to fans in Japan. The girls can't speak Japanese fluently, either. Having any kind of event featuring them is going to be an uphill battle unless it's just, say, Nyanners so someone interprets for her. I can see them having Nyanners along for some kind of Japanese variety show where people react to goofy videos of Hard Gay or stuff like that. But an entire collab of the VShojo girls for a Japanese audience? That's like a BTS concert in Peoria.
2. I'm a total Silverfag, and I'm just dreading how much more Silver's content/appearance will have to change so that she "fits" with the others because she's really not like other vtubers. She's the one Vtuber in VShojo who is all about streaming games and not being an off-the-wall personality or playing up a character. And she can be great in collabs, she IS (see: The Room, the girls playing D&D, Silver bullying Nyanners in VRC, VShowdown). But this feels like it's gonna be more work for her with very little in the way of help for her.

>Zentreya's new design makes my cock diamonds
>but can't get it up because of the TTS
such is life

>>6659344
If you can't hit the target anon you can't kill the target. If your target keeps rolling it's AoE attack 4 times in a row, the only one that can affect the entire party at once, you're going to take massive damage and go down. Sometimes your dice are going to fuck you. That's part of D&D, even if it's incredibly rare. Play a different game if that fact upsets you.

Tbh, i think the girls did the best they could with the RNG they were getting.

Snuffy had Tomoe more or less in the right place and had the right abilities to deal with it. Unfortunately by the time she discovered what she needed to do she was in a bad spot and basically stun locked.

Nyanners turned Lucy into a medevac helicopter, which while not the best idea, was smart in theory for a new player.

Haruka was using River correctly but slipped up when getting caught by the AoO, may have been smarter to just break the ice where she was standing and then swim away. She also didn't know about dodge until WAY too late. Tomoe's wild magic really fucked her too.

Vei used Nia's spell slots healing River, which also isn't a bad idea when you are a new player and don't know mechanics well. She got fucked over by bad rolls. That nat 20 at the end was really a clutch save, without it i'm pretty sure it would have been a party wipe.

Froot needs to learn Mei's skills and abilities a bit better, she stayed at range which really hurt her in the end. By the time she got in close it was too late.

I'm fairly sure Arcadum intended for them to use the ice pond more but their inexperience really hampered that. My only real criticism was he didn't really teach them AoO, disengage, dodge and holding actions, those are kind of basic battle mechanics. I think if they had gone into the fight with that knowledge they would have made better choices. I don't think this was supposed to be a tutorial boss.

Anyways, i think what Arcadum came up with for them was balanced, its just the bad rolls and inexperience really fucked them.

>>6659467
new design?

>>6659428
Vei has (or had) a surprising amount of JP viewers. There's commenters on a bit of her old stuff from Japan saying that she was the first vtuber they watched because of that JP guy who used to translate her clips

>>6659476
Yeah, this particular fight had some serious dice fuckery involved. It wasn't just the AOEs happening but WHEN they happened and who was around. I think he only rolled that Ground Pound once. Them's the breaks.

Anybody who watched the session could see that even if they were new and the didn't exploit the mechanics properly until later, the dice were just not on their side for most of it. You can play 100 D&D games and not see a fight go that bad that often with 5 players against 1 enemy. I have seen some people have shitty luck and I have seen parties just not get their own rolls, but I don't think I've ever seen a party not get their own rolls AND the monster kept getting his, in categorically high leverage situations. This was one of the worst battles I've seen for human players ever all around, but if the dice weren't so fucky, they'd still have won comfortably their way without exploiting a lot of the mechanics.

>>6659428
silver going for the slutty look/act early on super handicapped her i think. her personality doesnt really fit it that much and she doesnt coomerbait nearly as hard as she used to

>>6659476
>That's part of D&D
nah that's autistic DnD, roll dice shouldn't decide the outcome of a combat,m that just lazy rpg, roll dice work as a way to create a more mixed outcome, but at the end of the battle you should feel that it was your fault that you lost and not the roll dices, go to a casino if you want to a game were the roll dices decide if you win or loss, DnD i snot meant to be playe dlike that, even retrocloning rpgs are not meant to be played like that
startegy and roleplaying should be the determining factors in any encounter
but all of that is besides the point, the encounter itself was to hard to a new player, non of them even know the most basic rules of combat and arcadium thorw a monster full of gimmicks and high stats at them

>>6659604
>roll dice shouldn't decide the outcome of a combat
That is quite literally how D&D works. You roll dice to determine success or failure. Considering they could've ended that fight 10 times over with luck on their side I don't think you know what you're talking about, or at least understand the game.

>>6659598
Eh, 50/50. She IS lewd, she's just more reserved about it than Mouse or Mel (which goes for a lot, given how wild they are). Silver has also toned shit down a lot on her behalf, seeing as she's trying really hard to appeal to sponsors (she's bemoaned having "changed a lot of things" on stream before). Silver's just fine, if anything her streaming so late and just being lowkey in-general is what hurts her. Once people see she's genuinely nice to follow and not just some ethot or putting on an act, they have a lot of fun in her streams. It's just that vibing to a girl who's playing heavily modded Skyrim is a tougher sell than CHUNGUS AMONGUS I'M HERE TO KILL CHAOS IT'S MY BIRTHDAY.

>>6659517
when she first got the live2d redesign and the new model

>>6659677
>That is quite literally how D&D works
no is not, roll dice is a factor, roll dice on itself shouldn't decide the outcome of a combat

>>6659604
>nah that's autistic DnD, roll dice shouldn't decide the outcome of a combat
Then what the fuck are the dice for? I can understand an argument that a DM should step in to "save" someone's character, especially if they're new or something, but there are limits to the kind of deus ex machina even a DM should employ. The dice are there to prevent bias and to add some realism to the game. Yes, you're adventurers and heroes, superior to normal beings (NPCs and such), but you're not Gods (unless you are, in which case your DM is a hack). Failure is a possibility to anything you do. This is not a Hollywood movie with a script. I know a lot of people like to play that way, but if you're just telling a story why the fuck are the players there? Failing a dice roll is another part of the roleplay aspect. You have to figure out how to incorporate a wild nat 1 roll when trying to deck someone into the narrative. Do you go completely silly and say that you swung so hard your fist came back around and hit you in the face instead? Do you go neutral and laud the other person or NPC's dodging ability? Does the DM not give you the choice and claim that your arm turned to glass from an unexpected boneitis disease you were born with and didn't know about?

Dice rolls are part of the game. I don't know what D&D is without it.

>>6659719
If your party rolls <10 all the time as the enemy is rolling >15 constantly then suddenly, believe it or not, a balanced fight quickly becomes unbalanced.
Seriously what the fuck is wrong with you people? You complain about deus ex and all that garbage but when you give them a fight on even ground and it doesn't go their way you cry "becuz mah waifu". It's ridiculous.

>>6659760
>Then what the fuck are the dice for?
i already said it, to add an element of randomness to the encounter and force the players to adapt and change strategies
>Dice rolls are part of the game. I don't know what D&D is without it.
i never said they weren't, i said they're not the only one

I wish I had friends to play D&D with

>>6659790
NTA you're replying to, but I don't think your conclusion has anything to do with any arguments anybody has made thus far. I have heard people complain to Arc about his being too easy on players sometimes, but I don't think anybody here said that. It's just criticism he's received. I think everything today was fine, it just didn't go their way, which is unfortunate for them and I hope it doesn't kill the sense of fun they had going into it.

>>6659844
Was more of a blanket statement then aimed directly at the anons in this thread. Still applies to the other guy, who's essentially suggesting railroading with the dice just being present to add flavor.
Considering I doubt most people here even play I don't know why I'm still arguing. Return to the regularly scheduled programming I guess, I'll take my leave.

>>6659790
you as a DM choose what those rolls mean, with the characters you put in thegame, a beholder having a good roll isn't the same as a kobold havign a good roll, as a Dm you have control over that, that monster having good rolls, by arcadum design, mean the whole party being almost killed, that's not on the rolls, that's on arcadum and the creature he choose to throw at the players

>>6659821
>i already said it, to add an element of randomness to the encounter and force the players to adapt and change strategies
How was this not in play the whole session? The only outcome you seem to be bitching about is River's actual death. Everybody else has survived, tho Nia is going to have to work quickly to get them up. I also don't think River is "gone" yet, based on what Arcadum and Haruka mentioned about her people's spiritual connections. I think we'll see more of River Styx or at least her spirit going forward.

Besides, Arc already had them draw up new characters just in case they succumbed to the curse. Character death was always on the table and they're prepared for it. I like River the character and the fanartists seem to love her (and Tomoe) even more, but it is what it is. Haruka had to be prepared for it.

>>6659896
I haven't played in years. Decades. Some of the things I've seen in the Mel group and this group sessions, with rules and whatnot, are way over my head for what we used to play. I understand it, but it feels like the game has changed an awful lot since the mid 90s.

>>6659946
Yeah, homebrew. Doesn't help 5E, the edition they're using, wasn't out when you played. It has changed a lot, so you're not wrong. For better or worse is debatable.

>>6660001
Eh, seems fun to me. The girls are into it even if they're novices and that's entertaining. Again, I am sure River is not gone for good, but we'll see. It's a hell of a thing to end the session on tho.

>>6659917
>How was this not in play the whole session?
i never said that, i said it was needlessly hard, so it was in play, but in a forced, boring and unproductive way, a couple of easier monsters that could let the girls experiment and get acquainted with the systems and overal flavor of DnD would be much better, instead we got a tons of one shoots deaths and people giving everybody max potions until the monster died by oversue of the curse mechanic

>The only outcome you seem to be bitching about is River's actual death
nah that's just you proyecting

>>6660024
Yup. As long as they're not discouraged to keep playing by this I'm happy as can be. It doesn't seem like they are which is good. We'll just have to wait and see.

>>6659946
That's just Arcadum.

>>6659908
You can't just decide that an attack does 3d6 damage, then roll 16 and go "whoops that's a bit much, I meant 5". Or that you need to roll >10 on a saving throw, then a player rolls 7 and go "y-yeah haha also you gain +5 to your roll because uhhhh your character has a moment of clarity".

Of course you could argue the fight was overcomplicated as fuck for first time players in their second combat encounter (their first real one, to be honest) and I would agree. Imagine trying to keep track of all those mechanics when you have zero idea what attacks of opportunity are. Or that having a boss where attack rolls vs saving throws matter for the rage thing, because I'm still almost certain that no one except maybe Nyanners caught it.

>>6660066
I wouldn't be surprised if snuffy drops out, she was already not very into it and this session the anxiety and her not being able to keep up with the rest really got to her. Add onto that the fact that shes the one responsible for rivers death which is going to sour her interaction with haruka from now on she might decide to bow out.

>>6660082

>You can't just decide that an attack does 3d6 damage
yes, but you can decide to put an enemy that does id6 of damage instead, that's my point
>Of course you could argue the fight was overcomplicated as fuck for first time players in their second combat encounter
then why are we arguing if we agree in what's important?

>>6660112
That's a shame. I feared something like this would happen having seen the other main campaigns but prayed it wouldn't. We'll see, hope there's no hard feelings anywhere.

>>6660112
>Focused on as the MC by ppl
>Can't handle, imma weed it!
Maybe this'll reform, lol worse

>>6660184
I was thinking you were talking about fudging rolls, which I would disagree with. I don't even think the fight was necessarily unbalanced for the party (although that thing hit really fucking hard even at 3-5 rage). The real problem with it was that it was thrown as the first combat encounter for a group of people who have never played DnD and it had weird complicated mechanics to keep track of while the players were still trying to learn simple combat rules.

>>6660112
>>6660201
Arcadum wouldn't let that happen and you can bet that he'll do what it takes to make sure everyone can have a happy solution. If he could convince Silver to keep playing D&D after the shit that got flung at her, he can find a way to keep Snuffy and Haruka playing well together.

>>6660275
>Silver to keep playing D&D after the shit that got flung at her
what happened?

>>6660275
Silver never considered quitting

>>6660292
She had sex with an npc

>>6660292
>Silver's character was originally a flirtatious warlock raised by fae
>She tried to seduce a nobleman at a party for information pertaining to the party's mission
>After the fade-to-black, Arcadum reveals the character was a mega-racist who hated demihumans and magical races and that he was otherwise pretty humiliating to Revlis
>Silver was extremely uncomfortable with that
>People on the internet (and PMG) took to slutshaming Silver both for having roleplayed that AND for her reaction because she once said she had had 5 boyfriends before
>People got weirdly insistent that Arcadum roll for pregnancy/STDs so that "Silver learn actions have consequences"
>She was getting hate through DMs and her anonymous submission forms (which she doesn't do anymore)
>It was traumatic enough that she decided within the day that she wanted to quit D&D, a combination of her fans and Arcadum were able to keep her in the game
>the whole ordeal led to Revlis becoming a servant of Babylon
>Silver still got a lot of shit in the ensuing sessions for: not taking the game seriously enough, not being nihilist enough as a follower of the Laughing Mad, being too evil as a follower of Babylon, claims that she "killed her familiar" Daiyo when she joined Babylon (he went back to the Laughing Mad and didn't die, Arcadum confirmed it--the ensuing claims that Silver was a "dog killer" made Silver blacklist the word "Daiyo" in chat for a few months)
>PMG insists it wasn't their fault, because PMG
>To Arcadum's credit, he stood by Silver's decision to roleplay Revlis as being sexual and basically told anyone that had beef with his players to come at him

Silver apologizing people about D&D after the fact for "not roleplaying how people liked" wasn't just her neurosis, there was a stretch of weeks where new reasons to rag on her were created every session. She still amazingly managed to have fun.

>>6660112
Yeah she really hasn't been into it from the start I feel like. I think froot started feeling the same midway through, you could tell she was starting to get annoyed. What caught me off gaurd was vei almosting slipping up and saying something like "this boss fucking sucks" but said needs to die aleady or something instead.

>>6660318
The twitter posts where she announced her decision to quit were deleted within the hour of her posting them. Believe me, Anon, she got close.

>>6658421
As strong as it was, the girls could've taken advantage of the monster's weight on the ice but they failed to notice for quite some time. River also taunted it like a dumbass. Nothing was wrong with this matchup.

>>6659344
new to tabletop rpg or not, the cracking ice with the introduction of the monster was a a good hint at an alternative approach and the girls didn't take it until way later. For whatever reason, the girls failed with their own perception as players.

>>6660444
Yeah, on the one hand giving the Big Super Ultra Main campaign to a team of newbie D&D players was a noble but overly ambitious idea from Arcadum. Credit to him doing his due diligence in making sure the girls had a grasp on their characters (he did way better in that regard than with DaD/SaS), but his creativity got the better of him with this one fight I think. I think he needs to try more of what he did with DaD/SaS where he had fewer, simpler combat encounters and more social encounters where the players could think/roleplay their way.

>>6659684
the problem is that she looks like an ethot putting on an act. I think to a degree you need to kinda look the part.

where the fuck is this "snuffy wants to quit dnd" bullshittery coming from. is this a new flavor of anti just trying to create a rift where one doesn't exist? cause it's really fucking stupid

>>6660583
Froot's goth ensemble is just as racy as Silver's, Zen's boobs are just as big as Silver's, and Mouse and Nyanners are way more foul-mouthed than she is. Also, Mel is literally a sex worker. "Silver looks like an ethot" feels really cheap compared to all that.

>>6660434
Thats fucked. I hope she wasnt to turned off from the whole experience by it. It would suck to have a fun thing with friends ruined by randos on the internet.

>>6660534
>they failed to notice
yes, because they're new players, this was their first encounter, that's the whole point, you can't throw suc ha complex boss at players that don't know what an attack of opportunity is

>For whatever reason
the reason is pretty obvious, they're new to ttrpgs, any new player would reactthe same way, the encounter was just to complicated with tns of gimmik and enviromental factors to take into consideration

>was a a good hint
maybe for you, new players don't have the experience to really know what to do with those kinds of hints

>>6660534
It's hard to claim the encounter was too hard when arcadum said himself that it was soloble by 1 player without taking any damage.

>>6660737
They understood the hint instantly, then just didnt act in it for 4 rounds until eventually one of them braught it up again and they finally did something.it wasn't that they didnt understand, it was that they were for some reason to stubborn to use mechanics and tried to just damage it down.

>>6660549
Yeah totally agree. I think it was obvious they were more into the roleplaying part of dnd from the start. They were very invested in their characters stories. He gave them all way too much to figure out on their own for a first non-tutorial fight. He should have given them a difficult fight to get them in the right mind set but I think this was way too much. from what I've seen on nyan's discord and haruka's stream chat the majority of them are pretty discouraged now.

>>6660444
yes, by the end the fight was just boring, with every character getting one shotted or at death doors

>>6660726
To her credit, she wasn't and any time D&D has been brought up she says something along the lines of "When can I play again?". Arcadum wants to bring her back and for a while there was buzz of her playing in the new campaign with Mouse and Connor, but nothing was ever confirmed because of scheduling conflicts. As of two week ago, Arcadum confirmed here that the campaign is being pushed back because he can't fill seats in it.

>>6660777
Yeah because it was the wrong fight to give them at this point. It woul be like if I told you to kill the dancer of boreal valley when you've never played dark souls.

>>6660767
>They understood the hint instantl
not really, that's the point, they undesrtood the ice meant something, but they didn't knew what todo with it, why? because they're new players and they don't know how to "properly" interact with the setting the DM created, you need time to familarize with this type of gameplay ttrpg isn't something you master in two sesisons, why arcadum give them such a complex encounter is beyond me, he give the cosplayers a bunch of weak mistlings as a firts encounter and the melody and the rets of the girls some human soldiers as first encounter, why he decided to throw this boss as a first battle boggles my mind

>to stubborn
this is what you get wrong, they weren't stuborn, they didn't know how to act with the information that they had, because they're fucking new palyers and they lack the context of a ttrpg gameplay to grasp what to do with the hints arcadum thorw at them

>>6660637
I'm not one of those anons, but snuffy seems like she's not really paying attention and becoming increasingly uncomfortable.

>>6660737
I don't think being a new player has much to do with it; simple comprehension of a situation (along with imagination and curiosity) is all a player needs. With all the questions they were asking, none of them asked about the ice soon enough.

Also the boss doesn't seem complex.

>>6660942
Nothing seems complex when you're the one looking on the side. Watch a car crash and you'll say "oh he could have turned left and nothing would happen." It's different when you're the one in the moment. You would have fucked up just as much going in blind.

>>6661058
this

I miss when Zentreya played vrchat.

>>6661123
Pretty much. DaD got this a lot too when Mel was on one of hers, forgetting that Mel is slow to learn these kinds of complex systems. Moral of the story: don't start playing D&D, you'll piss off the old folks, I guess?

>>6661058
I understand that, but the accusation that Arcadum gave the girls more than they could deal with doesn't seem true.
Five perspectives and none of them latched onto the detail of the ice and called it out soon enough. Not even as little as a question about it. (I have no problem with how the girls played, just making observations.)

I've never played DnD, but have been curious. This is my third attempt at watching a campaign and it's been interesting.

>>6660942
>simple comprehension of a situation (along with imagination and curiosity) is all a player needs
did you eve rplayed DnD or any ttrpg with new players, all those things are aquired througt a lot of sessions and gameplay, at the beggining everyone is akward and don't know what to do or how to react to eventhe most basic shit
i think you're lacking the imagination to put yourself in the shoes of someone who never played an ttrpg before

>>6661184
I miss when zentreya was a notable VRchat erp slut

>>6661368
I think back to DaD/SaS and the girls having some serious questions. And everyone joked about it but for real, they really didn't know what the limits/systems were.

>Can I fuck the tree?
>What do I roll to show off and do a backflip?
>How big is his dick, I just wanna know
>How DO you have sex in here?
>Wait, how is pregnancy handled for that matter?

Another anon said it best, Arcadum really tried to accomodate the girls being completely new to D&D and did a lot of great accomodations but he juuuust missed the mark and shot a little too high over their heads.

>>6661278
It started going to shit after the mistwalker got out of ice though. It was going somewhat decently before that. The only thing it did was drop the rage down to 0 anyway so they couldn't have won the fight by just repeatedly smashing the ice anyway. There were other mechanics that Arcadum should have clarified and reminded them of well in advance in this fight

>remind them of dodge/disengage/ready actions
>make the party keep track of the rage meter and make sure that before you attack that the mistwalker doesn't fucking murder someone near it after the fact
>remind them of attack/saving throws affecting the rage meter
>remind mei that she's able to do sneak attacks even if she's not hiding if an ally is near the monster
>taking a dip into icy water should've made arcadum give them more of a nudge-nudge-wink-wink about it being weak to the cold

and so on and so on. Hell of a time to take the training wheels off for a party that's never actually been in actual combat.

>>6660942
>Also the boss doesn't seem complex.
rage/cool down mechanics, enviromental hazzards that should be used agianst him to alter said mechanics, all kind of powers, from combos to magic, and a health bar big enough to make the whole fight last 3 fucking hours
you're talking out of your ass

>>6661278
That's the thing though. You have all the time in the world to make your obsevations without stress while watching. I thought about them cracking the ice as soon as they martial checked him but they and everyone else were thinking introductory mechanics and causing max damage. I bet you would do the same your first boss. It is funny though when they all figure out how fucked they are at the same time and start panicking.

>>6653483
blame Vei and Snuffy. Others didn't want it but these two pushed for it. Vei clearly just wanted to be part (protag, look at her character) of the mainline event. Selfish as usual.

>>6661474
Yeah, I was kinda confused when he said "I wont hold your hand anymore and wont advice what you can do" in the beginning, considering that they only fought push over zombies 1 time before.
And his brain was pretty fucked too this session, he kept forgetting things (fucking girls had to remind him, the dm, about things like spells or backgrounds), kept trying to explain that "disengage is a status" without explaining what attack of opportunity is, ignored that girls wasted their actions(river had action available when she ran away and took AoO hit, River skipping her turn while she could do dodge in the beginning, etc.) did not do justice(roleplay) to River's death.
That was terrible job from him as a DM. He just threw a lion into a cage with 5 children and watched it happen.

if you think Vshojo joining V-Clan won't have long term negative effects on the agency and it's talent freedom of expression then you are living in your own little fairy world.

>>6661864
Oh right, on the topic of Arcadum forgetting things, I'm pretty sure he also forgot about the Armor of Agathys when the mistwalker hit Lucine. That 5 cold damage could've really come in handy at that point, and I don't quite remember whether the extra 5 hit points would've saved her from getting downed.

>>6661368
I have never played any ttrpg.
I understand that lots of new players don't know how to interact with anything, but the girls asked loads of questions about nearly everything else but the ice (in time).
I'm just saying I don't think Arcadum gave the girls more than they could handle.

>>6661484
But couldn't working with the ice have sidestepped a lot of those complexities? Do we know? I'm not here to sound like an ass. I genuinely don't feel like Arcadum messed up by having the girls go against the monster. Sure, he messed up by forgetting things here and there, but not with the monster itself.

>>6661474
That's true. I started losing interest and got distracted by the time Nia was trying to rescue River.
I thought things might get nutty once the training wheels came off, but didn't expect in the way that it did.

>>6661639
>You have all the time in the world to make your obsevations without stress while watching.
Of course. I'm not here to criticize how the girls played nor act like I'd play any better. I just don't get how people are saying Arcadum shouldn't have had the mistwalker as an opponent as if it were near impossible for it to be defeated by new players (despite his mistakes).

>>6661922
>That 5 cold damage could've really come in handy
Considering that boss had 5 hp left after Mei's attack before River died, yes.

>>6662027
>player character dies in the first combat encounter with 5 new players because the DM forgets to proc a spell
So this is the power of professional dungeon daddies...

>>6661864
he was getting ready for a oneshot session with his wife, her probably constantly asking him questions offscreen.

honestly all sessions so far is followed by something more important that distracts him, next session has the VR epilogue thing then another VR oneshot, then probably another friend's dnd.

you don't see any other of his campaigns that consistently do this

>>6661941
>I have never played any ttrpg.
Please dont have an opinion then. When YOU are the one who is playing its way harder.

Arc also told them to write down the things they own and certain details because he might forget. Is this on him or the girls?

>>6662091
I know things are harder when actually in the action.
I'm posting my opinion because I'm here to learn and talk about the vtubers I like, anon. Why silence a person who is trying to reason and learn?

>>6662090
Yeah, thats what I was thinking. Didnt he explicitly said last time that after CR he will focus all his attention to girls on fridays?
Three times in a row, man. Vtubers curse, first group was also indirectly fucked by his decisions.

>>6662167
Yes, it is a DM's fault to forget how spells work or what background his players are (especially that they are homebrew with a lot of hidden shit that only Arc knows how it works). There were no issues with inventory management.
>I'm just saying I don't think Arcadum gave the girls more than they could handle.
In theory yes. From someone who never played DND's perspective. Honestly, I am surprised girls did so well. When I was first playing dnd all I could remember is move and attack. They did try to think outside of the box, but ultimately they were not prepared properly for this. Worst offender is "on attack roll" bullshit, did Arcadum seriously expect that absolute newbies will grasp the difference between attack and saving throw spell check?
He fucking made Nyanner and Snuffy key figures for that one, they both are very new to RPG games in general, aside from few mmos.

>>6661941
Behold fellow faggots! Arcadum trying to figure out what he did wrong!

I told you faggots. I told you that the mentally-ill viewers would make a mountain out of an anthill and shit over everyone involved if Arcadum actually killed anyone. But noooooo, I'm a "retard" for speaking the truth when we have even faggots in these threads doing what the non-4chan going viewers are doing tenfold right now. You were warned. You didn't listen. Now you get to deal with the shit.

>>6662445
he caved in and put a bunch of inexperienced players for his grand mainline campaign is what he did wrong. Seriously, fuck you Vei and your pushing other girls to agree to this.

>>6662523
You are a retard.

>>6662557
Cope harder faggot. Your precious DM is going to get cancelled :^)

>>6662523
Those gaddayum non for chan having faggets need to gi out of her! Arcadum did nuffin wrong!

River is obviously going to be brought back after all that talk about spirits.

>>6662737
Which, while the obvious answer, will just prove that Arcadum has no teeth and is just as bad as Doormatt Mercer in terms of putting on a SHOW rather than a GAME. He fucked himself royally with this one. Either way he's going to have to deal with pissed off fans. And it's going to be delicious watching it all fall down around him.

>>6662523
yes a character's death is the problem and not the lack of proper introduction of mechanics

"oh you're moving away? are you sure?"
wtf man.

>>6662848
it's a mainline campaign it's meant for experienced players. Arcadum just fucked up cuz he thought girls would actually have SOME braincells and not treat it as a chill Friday night hangout. Vei bae is a snake for pushing this campaign in the first meet up.

>>6662737
I'm torn about this. From one side, it would be too cheesy to just bring back River, it would lower stakes A LOT and will kinda undermine her sacrifice and game's narrative.
From the other, if anyone deserves to be bring back, its River. Her fucking name is RIVER STYX ffs and she is tied with dancing with death. Considering what he did to girls was not really fair and that is still early on in campaign, it would make sense to bring her back.
Either way, he's fucked.

>>6662783
People coming back from death in some way or another is not at all rare in DnD, I doubt it's going to all fall down around him.

>>6662374
true but the party also massively kept misunderstanding the rage mechanic and several times thought that skipping turn was a better idea than just trying to strike the ground over and over
also that anybody can use dodge
also the concept of readying an action
use frost damage immediately after someone strikes it or some shit
also misunderstanding the word disengage, they kept using it as a generic term of just moving away when it is a very specific context keyword for dnd combat
overall enjoyed watching because it was so close to total defeat, but a pyhhric victory so early on is probably demoralising for brain goblined chuubas
personally I hope aecadum goes all in on curse power and river becomes a campaign antagonist (with haruka rolling a new one) that could both introduce clash mechanics and the horror of what a fully cursed pc would be

are there any streams tomorrow?
other than melody ofcourse

>>6662073
Players are supposed to remember thigns too, especially their own buffs. DM does his best but he is still only human.
It's understandable however that they all forgot about it. Happens all the time in DnD

>>6663048
I'd agree if this wasn't literally the first combat encounter with 5 people who have never played any tabletop roleplaying games

>>6662930
>>6662541
Its a homebrew campaign that can be easily tuned, Keep in mind, Arc waited like 2,5 months since session 0.
If he cant modify his own fucking campaigns according to players he is better off playing fucking modules on his stream.

I feel bad for Haruka but I hope River never comes back. This should be a hard lesson for the girls to treat this seriously and THINK. Better learn this early than 20 episodes in.

>>6663074
it's the second, it's their first boss
and I'm pretty sure with the set up it was optional, they could have killed 5+ random small monsters in the mist instead of going into the cave but they chose the cave

>>6663172
The one where they learned how to move against literal 1hp enemies for two turns before going into cutscene mode doesn't actually count.

>>6663127
I don't think he expected the girls to have perception of a potato though.

>>6663048
honestly this should have been the RP focused main campaign, the other one is obviously going to focused on major battles

>>6662933
He said something about spirits with her too before they ended. Maybe she's dancing with death or something and will come back. With curse mechanics? Or maybe spirit energy is more immune to curse? Who knows, could be cool.

>>6663003
Sounds cool but River only has 1 curse so it wouldnt make sense. Would be more badass if River rise only due to her background and gets MASSIVE curse debuff, like +6 or some shit. Not only this will show girls how curse can be dangerous, this could lead to great RP and eventually maybe turning as well. Or girls sacrificing their own curse reduction chances to heal River.
Either way, Arcadum has a few outs but his worst action would be "oops, river didnt die" and thats it.

You people acting like Arcadum didn't warn them repeatedly that this is not noob friendly that this will be a very long session wise and hard campaign. You get what you fucking deserve faggots.

>>6662933
What if he brings her back at a higher curse level, I think that would be a good compromise between not having her character lost so early but still keeping the stakes high.

>>6663197
He run fucking Among the Sneeds. He also run DaD and SaS.
Most of his players are fucking dumb aside from DM group. Girls were too smart for my expectations, actually.

>>6663074
I do agree that it was too complex for first real fight. It ended well though and was very intense because of that. They will learn more and more as game goes on and will be able to handle complex fights in the future.
River has some backstory that can maybe keep her alive and she was the only death.
>>6663206
The worst is behind them and they survived. I doubt they will have another complex boss fight anytime soon.

>>6663341
>hey i'm going to be a shit dm
>is a shit dm
>told you :)

https://youtu.be/fJjhq_xuP04

Oh dang I didn't know that Vei had a shota arc, the NTR arc only just started

>>6663341
With the amount of money he's making with having a third of vshojo + two other pretty popular vtubers. I doubt he has something that simple as character death. This will probably be a good story arch to get her back.

>>6663337
ye that's along the lines I'm thinking, I figure its a deity/devil of sorts right, you'd think it would watch closely the people that are willingly tapping into its power as they give up parts of themselves, and maybe offer them a deal

>>6663444
>It ended well though
1 hair from party wipe. If girls did not remind Arc about his fuck ups they all would've been dead. And even so, there are things Arc still did wrong.

>>6663031
Mousey's on
Doing harem application reviews I think
Vei said she'd be doing a long gaming session today
Froot and Zen probably be on too

>>6663652
hope vei plays well she was the only one that got a nat 20 after all

>>6663137
There can be consequences without straight up permadeath, there's already the threat of the curse for that, I'm sure they'll be taking this experience to heart already.

>>6663609
>1 hair from party wipe
That's what makes it intense. Also, everyone forgets shit and if everyone remembered everything the fight would be over a lot quicker.
One thing Arc did wrong in my opinion is doing the 'training wheels off' boss fight as the first real fight for all of them.
Forgetting about shit and not remembering 100% of DnD at all times is something you cannot ever fault a DM for. Unless you are the worst kind of player.

>>6663972
>That's what makes it intense
Watching Froot and Arc not understanding what disengage is for 10 minutes is what makes it boring.
>One thing Arc did wrong in my opinion is doing the 'training wheels off' boss fight as the first real fight for all of them.
I 100% agree. Girls did well considering.
>Forgetting about shit and not remembering 100% of DnD at all times is something you cannot ever fault a DM for.
I disagree. They are only 5 newbie players on level 2 without summons. It is understandable that he does not know their inventories but forgetting what their spells do (they dont even have many) or what their backstories is pretty bad for DM.
Worst thing you can do as a DM is just throw a tough fight at completely new players above their CR.
Its his own MAIN campaign, I wish he paid more attention. Like seriously, I was completely in disbelief during this episode, Arcadum behaved like third-class dm.

>>6663444
>I doubt they will have another complex boss fight anytime soon.
And yet without one all that will happen is 80+ sessions of shitting in the woods RP. Which, while funny the first few time, quickly grows old. Long-time viewers will tell you that Arcadum isn't going to stop throwing bad things at them and will only start to help/rig the fight if a fail state is approaching. There has never been a true on-stream fail state. Offline games? Sure. But never a TPK on stream. And there never will be if Arcadum values his brand at all.

>>6664487
>Arcadum behaved like third-class dm.
Because he is, and always has been, a third rate DM running fourth rate Adventuer's League Tier games.

>>6664487
seemed a little sloppy, more so than I've seen him before, is he doing okay? or is this just years of self neglect and its finally starting to catch up to him

>>6664487
>Watching Froot and Arc not understanding what disengage is for 10 minutes is what makes it boring.
Yeah I'm still not sure if they picked up on what attack of opportunity even is by the end of it

>>6662175
And next week he will be out of town.

>>6660669
It's not just the boob size. Silver looks more like a camgirl than Melody

>>6664830
boy i do not understand how arcadum managed to make it so complicated

>if you move away from an enemy that's right next to you it gets to do an extra attack on you as you are moving away, this is known as an attack of opportunity and you can avoid it by using your disengage action

>>6663497
Watch that whole round if you haven't already. It was hilariously adorable.

>>6664692
There were 3 factors, first his setup died and he was using backup one.
Second, his headset refused to work and was glitching.
Third, he had a game immediately after Otikata, so he was anxious.
I still think he handled it poorly but it wasnt without a reason.
>>6664830
Funniest thing is when after that explanation Froot said "I am going to disengage" and used her cunny action to move instead.

>>6664487
>forgetting what their spells do (they dont even have many) or what their backstories is pretty bad for DM
No it isn't. DM has a shitton of things to focus on, remembering players spells and background buffs isn't one of them. I'm not faulting new players for forgetting things, it just happens and that's fine but shitting on a DM because he has to look up spell description is just retarded.

>>6653522
Melody was good last night. She had Mouse on the show.

>>6665040
>a shitton of things to focus on
Please, share with the class what was so taxing for Arcadum to focus on in that fight. All he had on his end to deal with was:
>Enemy targeting/movement
>Which macro button to push
>Checking OBS every so often to make sure stream is up
>Not shitting himself or breaking another chair

That's it. There's no excuse for him not knowing crucial details about his mainline campaign characters. He should know them by heart or at least have notes well enough that he can be reminded of crucial details in a rapid fashion. Especially at level 3 when there's hardly any truly complex mechanics/spells on the board.

>>6665027
yeah I remember watching one of the previous campaigns I forget which and he's literally doped on medication and managing to handle it better

>>6665213
I'm glad I don't have someone like you in my dnd group.

>>6665027
>her cunny action

>>6665361
And why's that? Because I hurt your fefe's for speaking the truth? Grow up or fuck off.

>>6665361
I'm glad I had way better DM than you could ever be.

>>6665040
Looking up spell descriptions is one thing, completely forgetting that a player cast a spell or that they have cold resistance is another. Just write these things down man, these are new players.

>>6663497
>he doesn't know about the incest arc

>nia goes around the gory battlefield feeding goodberries to her fallen and battered comrades
>gets to river
>she doesn't wake up
goodbye fun and comfy shitting rp welcome traumatic post-combat depression caused by the loss of a loved comrade rp

The boss fight was appropriate for a group of level 3 characters, but I think the players weren't experienced enough for such an encounter yet. There still seemed to be some confusion about attacks of opportunity and a few other mechanics that aren't immediately obvious to new players. This was their first real battle, the only other battle they had was the tutorial battle against the zombie villagers that died in one hit.

I think it would have been better if Arcadum had them fight a pack of wolves or a bear before throwing them into an actual boss fight.

>>6667079
It would've been balanced with a veteran group of metagamers maybe. The rage mechanic was poorly worded, not easy at all to manage even if you immediately figured out all the details, and the thing started oneshotting players at around 5 stacks. Fighting a bear wouldn't have at all prepared them for this level of bullshit.

being a dm is hard, but i thought i'd try and come up with an encounter that's more suitable to new players
5 orcs with 24 hp that have axes that do 1d12 +3 damage
how'd i do compared to arc's 20 years of experience

>>6667422
That would be more manageable for new players, but 5 orcs would make for a way less interesting stream than a big boss monster.

I hope River stays dead and gets replaced with a different character like maybe sister or something. Still played by Haruka. Like River communes through the spirits to her that the party needs help.

>>6667836
It's the campaign of the players, not the characters, right?
I think whenever one of the characters dies they will just replace that character with another one played by the same player, as long as there isn't a complete party wipe.

I do think River is coming back though. It's early in the campaign and they've apparently put quite a bit work into the backstories that we haven't seen yet.

Arcadum saying "we're gonna have to do River's thing a little earlier than planned" at the end of the stream after River died makes me think that this is not the end of River.

How many big boss battles like this can we expect in the campaign? How many boss fights does Arcadum usually do in his campaigns? I thought there'd be like 3-4 bosses and then Otikata at the end of the campaign, but their first real fight in episode 5 being a big boss fight threw me off.

>>6668406
Yeah I seriously doubt he's gonna have a character be gone for good so early on, she'll probably come back to life in return for "giving herself to the spirits" whatever that means.

>>6668585
they could've avoided that fight, it was VERY OBVIOUSLY optional. Vei needs to stop egging the girls to do dumb shit while trying to play your typical anime protag character.
As for your question. Well, it's the main story this cycle so expect it to be very packed on events and twists.

If next weeks session starts with River having some spirit-session in the dreamworld and immediately coming back to life afterwards I'm out

>>6668758
Otikata's Curse feels more like a DM trying to run his own anime show than a DnD campaign honestly.

>>6668804
I thought Arcadum is on vacation next week, but he told Haruka to be there next week, so is there not a break after all?

>>6668804
They're not going to exclude Haruka from playing, so either River is having a special episode and coming back next week or they're meeting Haruka's new character.

>>6668804
No you're not.

>>6668758
> it was VERY OBVIOUSLY optional.
Either you go kill 1 scary dude or go fight several smaller scary dudes. It wasnt REALLY optional. And the worst thing you can do to new players is to give them a fight they need to run away from.
>>6668839
this.
>>6668804
In 2 weeks, and I'll be fine with resurrecting her if she gets big curse debuff. She is related to death after all. But I'd be fine with her staying dead too.

it would've been pretty funny if lucine died before nyanners got to show off the lucine cosplay costume she commissioned

>>6668839
That could be said of all Arcadum's games. A vast majority of his players don't care about the lore being dropped and just want to roll big numbers and improv. Meanwhile Arcadum is holding them to certain milestones and plot progression that only diehard followers give a shit about.

>>6669840
He's prone to falling into the "this group will beat these enemies, then they will unlock an important story information which will make them go to this place and try to seal an ancient evil, then the gods will thank them and task them with mending a war-ridden nation etc." type of predictive story telling, instead of just writin up an area and scenarios that happen inside of it, and then letting the players explore and interact with that area on their own accord.

>>6669840
Final episode of DaD was the worst shit ever.

>go outside
>bit of bokoblin ass growling
>go in cave
>fucking cleric beast enrage scream
>"hey we're safer in the cave guys!"

>>6673357
Nyanners does a pretty scary cleric beast impression and I bet I could take her in a fight

>>6668975
How would a new character work? She'd have to come up with a whole new concept? Or just get assigned one?

>>6673673
She comes up with a new one and they join the party at a convenient time in the plot.

I think anyone who'd whine about River coming back is autistic and retarded
This was their first "real" fight, it's all on arcadum for putting absolute 0 experience noobies against a 200hp boss that hard counters 3 / 5 of the characters and started straight up one-shotting players left and right
At this point in a DnD campaign they should be fighting easy mobs in order to learn how DnD battles work in the first place, not get punished by a fucking killing machine for being new to the game
Haruka should 100% have another chance to play her character

>>6673783
>I think anyone who'd whine about River coming back is autistic and retarded
Yes.
River should not come back, at least without caveat.

>>6673673
She was already thinking about a blind warforged.
She will have to talk it all out with Arc beforehand though.
My bet is that River comes back due to those spirit shenanigans though. Especially taking into account that she shouldn't have died in the first place, due to Lucine's armor.

>>6673827
What did the twinkle armor even do? Or be supposed to do?

>>6673783
at this point you're either going to make "wtf this is their first real fight this isn't fair" people seethe or the "wtf arcadum never kills PCs he's such a fucking handholder with dumb deus ex machinas" people seethe so it's up to arcadum who he wants to upset this time

>>6673860
"A protective magical force surrounds you, manifesting as a spectral frost that covers you and your gear. You gain 5 temporary hit points for the duration. If a creature hits you with a melee attack while you have these hit points, the creature takes 5 cold damage."

>>6673926
How much damage did Lucine take from the AOE screams before getting dpwned by melee?

>>6673783
I think it would be kinda cool if she's dead, because I think the harder stakes it sets, while tough right now, are ultimately going to be more fun for the gorls to RP once they get further in. Everybody likes a punished redemption arc.
Ultimately though I just want everybody to have a good time so whatever makes the players happy makes me happy.

>>6673958
Good question, did she get hit by them at all beforehand? If she did, armor was gone.

>>6673783
I wouldnt whine about it, but it would kind of lower the stakes a bit, which wouldnt be great.

Then again, Gandalf came back so who gives a fuck.

Lorefag reporting. I've been ducking the thread for a bit due to the obvious shitstorm but hopefully people have cooled off at this point. I imagine there's a lot of questions so feel free to ask. Otherwise sorry you all had to see that, fuck that was harsh.

>>6674097
Do you know what is the spirit thing River has?

>>6669840
>A vast majority of his players don't care about the lore being dropped and just want to roll big numbers and improv
it's not his fault most people playing his games don't respect or care about the time and effort put into his campaigns or the lore behid the world and only "e-celeb go brrrr lmao" types. Momo is pretty much one of the only people who tried last time because she understands what DnD is like.

>>6674072
Idk, I think it would lower the stakes if this was later in the campaign, but imo this was really more of a mistake by the DM
Showing some exceptional lenience toward new players should really be acceptable in this situation. He could even add that this is a one-time thing and the next deaths wouldn't get a cop-out and I think the stakes would remain just as high

>>6669165
>Either you go kill 1 scary dude or go fight several smaller scary dudes. It wasnt REALLY optional. And the worst thing you can do to new players is to give them a fight they need to run away from.
>hints heavily it's clearly a bad place to choose
>gives them a pretty much boss on script with rage mechanic
>gives them environmental stuff to defeat it
>girls ignore all of it cuz haha Vtuber go brrr cock
>fail miserably
I dunno man not on him for girls having a brain of a stoned out pigeon.

>>6674145
Not really. I thought it might be a clan thing but the wind clan (hers) doesn't have anything there. Sorry man.

>Girls are noobies Arcadum should've gone easy on them.
There is a difference between a newbie and an idiot who just refuses to listen or learn. This Boss was the most noob friendly shit you could've thrown at them while still being suspenseful and they managed to fuck that up too.

you gotta make it a bit subtler man, it's not that hard

>>6673783
I don't mind her coming back so long as there's some sort of price to pay, like a whole bunch of curse points, you shouldn't set a precedent of being able to get away with dying scot free.

Cringe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVPYXzVS5Kk

>>6674241
Yeah, if it's a one time thing then that's cool I guess. But arent they all infected by the curse? I wonder how dying and coming back would impact that.

>>6674539
>Cringe

rent free

hi

Is Nia's cursed portrait permanent now?

>>6675590
There are ways to reduce the curse they just don't know them yet

>>6675634
Aren't they literally on a quest to gather materials for an anti-curse medicine at the moment?

>>6675733
yeah, a medicine that slows or temporarily halts the spread of the curse

>>6674539
lol this is cute. I hope she plans on streaming her debut like she was considering for her anniversary.

River will be brought back to life by the magical display of Lucine and Nia making out.

>>6653014
Is this the place to post this?

My boyfriend (32M) started watching V Shojo and now he keeps calling me (25F) a gremlin and begging me to fart on him. What did you people do to this guy?

>>6676231
He's been turned. Your only option now is euthanization.

>>6675733
Oh I thought it was for other shit, I zoned out at the lore man lol

>>6675733
thats one thing i havent seen pointed out. everyone is saying how the girls didnt notice the ice. but the thing is that river suggested breaking the ice multiple times, thinking it would cause the boss to either dink or get stuck. the problem was they kept second guessing themselves, thinking that if it sank to the bottom, how were they supposed to get its heart.

would it not have been better to have it set up where they get the ingredients in order, starting with the flowers (admitedly i dont know if those are in a more dangerous area) where they would encounter smaller enemies, then after getting more experience and maybe level up, fight the boss mist walker as a final encounter?

>>6676354
Judging by the outdoor area I think that was the plan but they accidentally speedran it

>>6676231
Try to mind control him with some cute seal noises.

>>6676354
>would it not have been better to have it set up where they get the ingredients in order, starting with the flowers (admitedly i dont know if those are in a more dangerous area) where they would encounter smaller enemies, then after getting more experience and maybe level up, fight the boss mist walker as a final encounter?
Sounds like a nice idea. It would be a shame if they walked into the cave with the cleric beast instead.

>>6676354
The problem was another group got the mists and the walkers in a big fucking frenzy, it would have been much different and probably in that order.

>>6676231
two rounds, back of the head

>>6676480
pvp to avenge river when

Bit of blame to go around on this one. The gals lack the knowledge to know what they don't know, ie they don't know yet to ask about how to interact with the environment because that comes with playing the game, there's also no way to expect them to know the difference between a save and an attack roll.
Arc also seemed more out of it then when he says he's been med'd up. He has absolutely explained AoO and disengaging far better and more coherently especially when it was clear someone didn't understand it.
Probably the biggest mistake was not calling the session at 3 hrs mid boss fight like he's done with other campaigns in the past, letting them cool off with fan art while giving them a pep talk and then letting them continue next session. I assume he did that because of the week break but c'mon man, you're getting paid for this, should have just bumped this week instead if that was the case.
There also seems to be this weird thing that I've noticed that this feels like a boss that he would have put in a campaign with a single seasoned player. He's definitely told ster surefor and moon to not go all out so he could ease new people into it, but having them there as an example to act on mechanics without giving it away helped.

>>6676813
ok

>>6676446
yeah going into the cave was a mistake in hindsight. but from their perspective it was just as dangerous outside were there were multiple mist walkers. they had no idea what they were in for either way.

>>6676422
yeah lol. although the cave was pretty close to the starting area.

>>6676813
Yeah pretty much my thoughts.
I'm just excited to see what's next. Even if it was brutal I've never felt that invested in a fight. Hopefully they aren't discouraged.

Oh and Zen's live. https://www.twitch.tv/zentreya

>>6677125
>Hopefully they aren't discouraged.
h-haha yeah imagine

Can someone tell me what snuffy decided in the end yesterday in sub chat? i got banned because I was admittedly too forceful when I told her to suck it up and keep playing, it was an alt account so i dont care but I just want to know if she decided to take a break from the dnd or what

>>6677481
what was she even talking about specifically?

>>6670248
This is a thing. A lot of DaD ground to a halt because he'd leave "hints" for the girls to find but they'd wander off and explore and do unpredictable stuff because they were new and so they didn't know better than to recognize his hints for what they were. He got better at that with SaS but by then there were a lot of missed sessions and a lot of "prep" that needed to be done for the endgame, and so while it was great to see the girls do things like tail the Shattered Star cultists or snoop around the docks, that was literally all they could do.

Arcadum said later that Azeatec was a hook for the girls to learn Power Words--there wasn't even time for any of that to happen in the first place, he had to rush them from the docks to the Shattered Star to the fight against the Aphotic Indefatigable.

>>6671798
Yeah, it was fun to see the girls get to interact with other players. It wasn't fun that the girls basically became side-characters in a session of their own goddamn game. This was another episode Silver walked away from feeling less-than-great; perfectionist that she is, she was taking notes quite religiously but there was such a loredump she felt she could barely keep up. She felt like she was "being quizzed" unfairly on a bunch of stuff later in the session. Meanwhile, the other characters basically took over the session. There were fun character moments like Terryn finally meeting the other changelings, but other character stuff people wanted to see (like Eustace talking to Revlis about Babylon) never happened because The Seven basically took over the episode.

>says he wont help on their second combat and throws a boss fight at them
>ends up helping them anyways and tries his best to rig the fight
>"forgets" the healing skill the boss has
>when the boss attacks River while unconscious he counts it as one death check instead of 2
>River still dies
>leaves for a week

Awesome

>>6677481
wait so Snuffy, one of the people (other being Vei) who was egging the team to choose a long ass 80+ sessions DnD campaign is now wanting to drop out? Arcadum told them specifically that it is a huge commitment and it would really suck if they start bailing. And Snuffy was like we got it dudes. Fuck this raccoon whore if she bails

>>6677931
I don't think even he realized that he was dealing with the worst possible players when it comes to perception until it was too late.

>>6677960
It sounds like someone making shit up just to stir shit in here

hahaha so Snuffy legit wants to drop DnD now
I told you guys she will do it when everyone was like "Hell yes long campaign for the girls". I feel bad for Arcadum.

>>6677931
>>"forgets" the healing skill the boss has
That was tier 3 only they kept it below that for most of the fight.
>>6677960
Dunno about that broski she seemed most reluctant when they were picking the campaign.

>>6678072
It's kinda like how a button masher can beat a fighting game pro because the pro is used to fighting people who know what they're doing and who do certain things and button mashers are just batshit unpredictable. Arc is so used to seasoned D&D players who have at least an inkling of what they're doing that playing with full-on newbies threw him for a loop in spite of his best efforts.

>>6678100
it's not, sadly.

>>6677481
>what snuffy decided in the end yesterday
What are you even talking about?
Is there a vod of this?

>>6678220
it was in discord

People were mad at me for saying the girls taking a main campaign was a mistake, but I think this proves it to some extent. Combat was never going to be the girls' thing and combat is basically the cornerstone of the main campaigns because it's what pushes plot forward. Feel bad for gatekeeping but I just don't feel like they knew what they were getting into.

>>6678316
Eh, a single botched bossfight shouldn't be a problem.

>>6678316
it's ok Snuffy's gonna bail now anyway, River is dead so Arcadum could try and bring two actual players into the fray. Like Momo

>>6678415
I agree but if the players feel it is a problem then it becomes a problem. If they stop enjoying it then it becomes a slog, because it's just an obligation. We'll see.

>>6678220
It was real in my mind

>>6677481
>>6677960
>>6678204
>>6678259
>>6678442
Stop talking out of your asshole and post some actual proof.

>>6677481
yep i agree. i'm tired being part of her fanbase. it's annoying dealing with her schizos. i'll change oshis too if this keeps going on.
which one do you guys recommend?

>>6678548
you can't, it was a "private" thing on discord. Unless somebody here was recording it, it's gone. I sure weren't. But we'll know soon enough anyway if she announces it. She seemed pretty leaning towards leaving.

>>6677481
i'm hardcore snuffy.
and i agree. she is pathetic at the moment. i don't think she will recover. it's only downhill from here on out.
people should leave while they can

>>6678548
I don't see any posts in the discord from snuffy about it so idk what that anon is talking about. Unless every message about it was deleted he's talking out his ass

>>6677481
snuffy needs to go. she will be downfall of vshojo
who agree with me?

>>6678628
>>6678667
if you're trying to false flag at least read my post, I want to know what she decided, what the fuck are you agreeing with?

>>6678706
I don't think she decided on anything yet.

>>6677481
wow dude literally half of the board agrees with you. glad i'm not alone
based as fuck
kiara sucks and is spoiled brat

>>6678700
>>6678667
>>6678628
Clearly samefagging, did Snuffy ban you for being a fucking retard or something?

>>6678821
Is sand course, rough, and does it get everywhere?

>>6678700
Snuffy's not even in Vshojo
And she was never cut out to be a big Vtuber not with the mental issues shit she has (and her mom). But you're a faggot.

>>6678654
>"private" thing on discord
what do you even mean by this? in vc? in a sub channel?

>haruka
I don’t dislike her but her voice really grates on the ears

>>6660742
Want to know why that's full of shit?
Only nyan's bat could have done that and only if she knew how everything worked ahead if time and even then she got hit by an unmissable crit.

>>6679015
Yeah that's a stupid argument. Would've taken like 10 years too.
Still was balanced fine.

>>6679013
Understandable.

I love Haruka!

>>6679279
My only exposure to her has been via DnD, but she seems like a really nice person!

>>6679279
Based and Karibu-pilled.

>>6679279
She seems pretty sweet

>>6678966
means it was a live stream in sub vc

>>6676813
He went into this knowing he fucked up. He ran with the idea that yeah they need level 3 hp but don't get anything else which just screams that he knew it wouldn't work but did it anyway.
>I'm experimenting with blah blah blah
the man has how many discord simps about to pay whatever he wants to charge a month to play in his game world but not on stream and without any direct contact with him. He has a testing ground that pays him to get tested on. What was he thinking?

>>6677481
Snuffy (not Tomoe) has come across as the weakest link the whole way through but I hope she can stick to her commitments.

https://files.catbox.moe/s9dno8.mp4
https://vocaroo.com/1fthF7jZL3xK
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1069397963?t=8h36m14s
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1069397963?t=8h13m27s

>>6680983
you know she won't I know she won't. Why hold false hope

>>6661913
>implying you know what any of us thinks
We actually don't know what to think about V-Clan right now because nobody seems to know what the fuck it is or what the partnership with VShojo means.

>>6661913
the mere existence of vei as part of vshojo automatically invalidates your concerns

>>6681281
Graduation ceremony soon.

Snuffy antis been hitting this thread fucking hard goddamn.

>>6681165
>she drops out
>momo comes back
Honestly? Wouldn't be too upset.

>>6662737
I wonder if, instead, if Arcadum realizes the armor ice damage mistake, if he doesn't rewind time a bit back to that moment, apply the damage, then continue with Mei's attack, which would down the Mistwalker, then allow them to progress from that point. Which would also include Nia not having to increase her curse count out of desperation.

I think that would be a better way to resolve River's death than to do something else. DM's are capable of fixing their mistakes and the armor ice damage was clearly one of them. That would only rewind effectively, what, one round of content? That's reasonable.

>>6678316
>I just don't feel like they knew what they were getting into
well yeah, none of them have any DnD experience whatsover
the only one that knew what the campaign was gonna entail was Haruka, as she watches a lot of his campaigns herself

>>6681423
Ugh. Who were the major ones pushing for it again?
Whatever, doesn't matter as long as they're having fun. Which I still can't figure out due to radio silence from the lot of them, except for Haruka. This once again proves Haruka is best girl.

>>6681351
It's 1 dude samefagging, real fuckin weird

>>6681482
Haruka is a tough girl, she doesn't let her brain goblins take control of her like the large majority of vtubers do.

>>6681352
I dont think anyone would be upset except the Snuffyschizos

>>6681494
you wish it was 1 dude anon but Snuffy's honeymoon period is over for a lot of people and it shows.

>>6681482
it was fucking Vei didn't you watch the pre-campaign stuff? She was hardcore let's do it boyz on this campaign

>>6681532
Yeah, I was iffy on her when first exposed but she's like honestly my favorite at this point. Really appreciate the air of normalcy and honesty she brings to the exceptionally autistic field known as vtubers.
And no I'm not a Haruka plant fuck off.

>>6681494
I was suspecting that too since most of the posts just repeat the same points. It's like a bunnysperg tier idiot.

>>6681532
Did you see her stream afterwards last night? She was obviously down about the whole thing and the game not working for the collab planned after just added onto it. I'm sure she's still committed but this was a huge blow to morale, especially considering all the effort that went into character creation, and I'm sure that commission Haruka got of River was pretty pricey and she wouldn't stop talking about how much she loved it.

>>6676231
What the fuck, Sarah?

>>6681617
I did but it's been months anon. Sounds like something Vei would do. I think she's having fun though so worked out for her.

>>6681646
Of course she's going to feel down about it but I think she's still plenty committed and looking forward to seeing what's coming. Character deaths always fucking suck. You really do get invested while RPing someone.

>>6681646
>Did you see her stream afterwards last night?
I did, she said that what happened was a bummer, but there's nothing they could do. She didn't seem to be upset, even if her character was the one that dided. Compared to the rest that retreated to discord and got into a mini-depression or even when into the shadows.

>>6681279
Zen bullied Haruka by shopping her into a furby and someone in the replies drew Zen as one and she fucking walked out lmao.

>>6681663
Vei is pretty much playing typical anime protag character so yes works for her. She also isn't as noob as you think when it comes to DnD. And she really enjoys that being in a team of literal greenhorns.

I do think the girls kinda suffered from thinking in JRPG/MMO logic rather than D&D logic, which is way more freeform.

My head was screaming attack the ice, and seeing if there were anything from the ceiling of the cave that could be dislodged and drop on the lake.

>>6681700
lol she was very obviously fucking depressed what the fuck are you saying. she even had to keep assuring vei and nyan that her death wasn't their fault when they showed up to her chat. she even said she would probably cry about it after stream.

>>6681770
depressed and sad aren't the same thing
there's a big difference between shedding a few tears and your morale being absolutely broken
Haruka came through rather smoothly, and she got fucked over the most out of the group

>>6681770
No offense anon but vtubers cry a lot. She seemed pretty chipper all things considered, of course she is going to be sad but the point is she's not beating herself up over it.

I would actually be kind of mad at snuffy if she left the campaign. I get that she's got some sort of mental illness but she's been letting it get really bad lately and it's starting to affect other people

>>6681905
thats vtubers in general

>>6681759
Pretty much yeah. I've never played DnD myself and the only campaigns I've watched were DaD and SaS but I kept waiting for them to put 2 and 2 together with the ice. According to the last thread it was about 2 and a half hours into the session. I do think the monster being weak to cold could have been communicated better though. I would have assumed water was more responsible for the monster lowering its rage, or just the fact that it was so surprised it lost track of what it was doing more than I would have assumed it was cold specifically. Also falling into the water should have dealt some damage to really communicate that point. Say to the point of... 5 damage?

>>6681984
I think he meant for them to break the ice really early, at which point the whole ice/cold thing would've been communicated earlier in the fight. Still, what's done is done.

>>6681589
>sounds exactly like an anti
>types exactly the same way
>IP count does not increase at all
You suck at this and have been exposed. Now fuck off.

>>6681905
What's the point in forcing her to continue if she's not enjoying it in the least? Why torture her for 80 more weeks if the alternative is getting someone who wants to be there instead?

>>6682113
Growth requires pain

>>6682113
This. If she wants to leave let her. I'd be a bit pissed she didn't voice her concerns more but she probably didn't know what she was getting herself into.
This is also a great time for a departure if she wants to. Arcadum could do a timeskip and reconvene with the new party member. Maybe something bad happens to that member involving the curse, and the rest of the crew shows up to help guide them and finally take it down after their previous loss.

>>6682113
Because lately she's been bailing on everything and I don't even know if it's because she's not having a good time or if she's so deep in her own head that she's imagining people hate her or whatever. I had hoped the vacation would help but it hasn't

>>6682053
whatever makes you cope my friend. Of course it doesn't change because >>6663137 is me.

>>6682186
For a "normal" person, yeah. But even the slightest of pain seems to cripple Snuffy. She grew up on Tumblr for fucks sake, a prolonged time on there will quickly make you unable to survive on your own in the real world.

>>6682113
Because in a roleplay aspect they now have something that unites them. They now don't just have to stop Otikata but do it for their fallen friend. It gives them determination. Naturally, it could also go the other way for some and they get sad, but this is where someone steps up as leader to remind them they got into this together and they'll finish the job for her sake.

Then they either take on a new partner (Haruka v 2.0) or Arc does something to bring her back at a key point (River the White style). Or something along those lines. D&D isn't just about the dice rolls and stuff, but about the roleplaying aspect and this gives them a lot to play with as actors to create stories for how this effects each of them. Right now they're sad for Haruka and thinking they did something wrong. What they're forgetting is that they're still learning.

This boss fight is like any boss fight in a video game. You start it, and if you don't know how the mechanics go, your first attempt is going to end in failure. With a video game, tho, you can just reset a save and come back and try again. With D&D that's harder to do (within reason) and all you can do is go on to the next fight with your horizons now opened to new possibilities. You no longer have to be limited by just dice rolls, but your own imaginations. This is a good learning experience for them.

>>6681646
i think they were all in shock. it sucked to see them sad about it, plus it stressful enough to watch, they must have been exhausted when it finally ended. on the other hand it shows that they actually care and take it seriously. sure she was sad, but haruka was still very excited to keep going. she was prepared to die at some point, but unfortunately it was alot sooner than expected.

>>6681905
At this point she clearly needs to see a professional. Tag Momo in and let Snuffy get the help she needs.

>>6682222
>cope
Yep. Shitters and antis just can't help exposing themselves.

>>6682342
>>6682209
>>6674159
>>6678442
>>6681352
holy shut the fuck up samefag

>>6681281
>>6681348
I've joked about it since the reveal: Vei is definitely going to be the VShojo streamer that Gunrun has to apologize for having had a "heated gamer moment".

>>6682367
well, you can bring a horse to water but you can't force it to drink. Or have more than two braincells.

>>6682298
Doesn't change the statement just changes the scale, an agoraphobe progresses just by stepping outside then going back in, an arachnophobe progresses by looking at a picture of a spider or holding a fake one
She clearly likes this streaming shit and I doubt if she makes it to episode 85 she'll look back and think it was a bad idea because so many goblins will have died along the way

>>6682399
shut the fuck up Snuffyschizo

>>6682421
"What a fucking retarded nigger" - Vei, 2022

>>6682439
Snuffy would've progressed if she maybe missed an attack on an orc who then proceeded to knouckout a player, but in this case she almost witnessed a full TPK as a first time DnD player. that ain't a small thing for her goblins.

>>6682399
stop self-posting Sniffy

>>6682474
I can unironically see Vei saying that though not with a hard R and her classic ~uh at the end.

Froot live. I think she's going to be streaming Destiny 2 with Zen https://www.twitch.tv/apricot

>>6682642
Well then it's fine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPZ3YrpmidA

>>6681279
Haruka gets her revenge.

Snuffy hours are the new Bunny hours and I'm here for it

>>6682761
you ever want to fuck a tree?

>>6682871
I'd decorate that tree, if you know what I mean

>>6682913
That'd be a lot of tinsel

>>6682828
Bunnysperg has been here for months, Snuffysperg is a new thing. This week we also had a weird antiBunny / Anny thing which then morphed into anti"+" thing, and I don't even know anymore.

Just don't reply to bait, especially obvious shitter bait. Like, these people are not subtle at all and easily spotted. Ignore them.

>>6682998
imagine the smell

>>6682949
people have been concerned about snuffy since she went on her soft break 2 months ago, its not new

>>6683040
https://twitter.com/LichVtuber/status/1416106837213126662

Zen is on now. Froot is also on now to play Destiny 2.

Which... if you think Apex is boring as fuck to watch someone play... get ready for this dumbass wash-rinse-repeat bullshit...

Later Mousey will be going over her Harem Applications and I think Melody is going to be with her again. Which means we either get a lot of hard work done sorting these apps out or 5 more hours of the two of them just talking about random shit and telling stories about things. In other words, fun either way!

Today is Kon Zetsu's birthday so Silvervale will not be streaming but will be on his stream. MamaVale too probably.

I think that's all we know for sure.

>>6683040
>>6683088
Draws herself a little chubby ay, I wonder by top floor if she lives in a 3 story townhouse or her office is in a loft conversion.

>>6683073
Enough (you)s for (you). Shush.

>>6683126
It's weirdly cute that she whole family got into streaming

>>6683171
If MamaVale ever actually starts streaming I think they'd be the first "family" I know of that does it. Certainly the first vtuber family.

>>6683144
>Draws herself a little chubby
shortstack Foort = best Froot

>>6682732
Good stuff. Finally she can play something other than Apex.

>>6683226
First Vtuber family, for sure. First family streamers, certainly not.

Nice post from pink cat. https://twitter.com/NyanNyanners/status/1416488462484598785 She'll be doing her anniversary stream on Monday so I'm really hoping she follows through on the plan to rewatch her debut.

>>6683040
Of Froot's sweaty leather chair?
https://www.twitch.tv/nyanners/clip/HealthyInquisitiveRhinocerosSmoocherZ-CeolS96znggm6qov

Mel live on CB

Donation Froot got. Time for VShojo High.

>>6683513
Mel leaving shojo confirmed by dream-seer donation