/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

reading is hard, huh?

>>66562494
She will have a lot of plans in 2024, in vshojo.

>>66562494
Honestly, that message sounds like preparing for graduation.

>>66562494
She does have a lot of plans.. just not in kurosanji.

every day i pray for anychina and bilibili to go bankrupt

>>66562996
Based Coco

>>66562494
> I'm rooting for you in 2024
> Never mentioned about HER 2024 activities and only talking about 2023
> "Omg guys Pomu played us like a damn fiddle"

Reading comprehension doko

>>66562494
Graduating was part of her 2024 plan, I see no contradiction here
Are you nijiniggers getting ready to backstab her the moment she leaves the black company?

>>66562996
Best take in this thread, so do we all

>>66562996
based

>>66563094
They already are.

>>66563094
They already are.

>>66562494
Those plans don't include kurosanji

>>66562996
>>66563224
You need to go back.

>>66563987
Elevator shaft

I'm looking forward to the tell-all books we'll get about vtubing in about 10 years.

>>66562494
Pomudachi does not stop being her fans when she changes vtuber avatar.

>>66562725
People warned that was the case and this was the response

>>66563468
They always eat their own.

>>66564035
>>66564114
Kek

>>66563263
>>66563468
>>66564123
Nijiniggers behavior is actually subhuman
Like those chimps that kill and eat an ex-member for leaving the troop

>>66563263
She retained a straight male fanbase so she's hated there.

>>66562494
reading this after knowing it looks like a goodbye letter

>>66565378
reading it BEFORE the graduation it looked like a goodbye letter, there were even threads made about it but noooo nijisisters called us schizos for having ready comprehension

Mintdachi transcend company labels

>>66562494
Pomu please come to Hololive to replace the rapper

>>66562654
>verification: 4PGYAT

Looking forward to seeing college-Pomu

>>66564290
But Pomu actually become a cocksleeve of Luca and that is as the start of her downfall.

>>66566072
stealing this one

>>66566248
Hold on to this, as well

>>66566266
not bad, but I'm more interested in Henya's old friend

If she joins Vshojo over literally anything else, I'll be her first anti.

>>66562654
Please...I don't want her in vshojo.

>>66567094
don't be afraid, it worked out wonderfully for Henya, too, and she'll definitely help her old friend settle in.

>>66562654
This. Pomu had future plans and leaving Nijisanji and switching to VShojo was one of them. The benefits of owning her model and channel while not having to follow incompetent management became to appealing and NijiEN will likely have several graduations in 2024.

>>66564290
Half the so-called "fans" raging about her leaving probably don't watch streams or even clips. They're Twitter/Discord creatures who are /here/ for other reasons.

Really curious how nijimanagement rationalizes livers leaving for vshojo

>>66563468
Classic

>>66568122
Leaving for vshojo? Don't be silly, they're leaving vtubing entirely. Riku said that himself, surely he can't be wrong about that /s

>>66566781
where else do you think she will go.
Hololive is not a place where you say "hey pick me" and they will do it. They have auditions and they will reject people no matter how big your name are.
VShojo there already plenty of her friends there and they will welcome her with open arms.
Where else you think she will go? Brave group? Menhera Connect? Idol pimp house?

>>66568122
I've been in companies this toxic before. A lot of managers get drunk on power and seem to lose the capacity for long-term thinking. They become increasingly fixated on using their authority to go on power trips and settle petty grievances and grudges. It seems to happen the most with women managers, but men will do it too.

Regardless, it usually doesn't end well. A well run company will fire these people; less well run companies are usually brought down by them.

>>66562494
What about the all out war..

>>66568474
we're all out

>>66568474
Isn't it obvious, they lost, she defected. Happened to almost every war in history

>>66568122
I take it you've never worked a corporate office job. The only people that HR give a single shit about at any given company are the executives

>>66568122
It's their fault to begin with for not banning collabs with vshojo. They were warned from the start that they were not good news.

She wasn't planning on graduating before what happened with Selen, which is exactly when she left her literal two week notice (they begged her to stay at least until the end of the month but she refused)

You'd know this if you watched her streams

>>66569075
Banning collabs wouldn't stop people from leaving. If anything, it'd do the opposite.

She will with her new self owned IP, whatever it will be.

>>66569075
If they ban collabs now it wont even matter cause Matara has direct contact with a ton of Niji talent. So what they gonna do confiscate their phones/social accounts?

>>66569166
This is a lie. She and Selen both had sent in their resignations months ago. Selen was convinced to stay an extra month or two for the AR live revenge, and to save them the PR disaster of losing their two most popular members at once

>>66569479
>>66569287
Kind reminder that NijiEN blocked HoloEN from collabs despite having no issues with JP and ID. So why not VShitshow?

>>66569621
They dont even know that vshojo exists. Its irrelevant

>>66562494
I mean she's doing more for us in these two weeks than Gura will do in all of 2024, that has to count for something right?

>>66569287
It would stop them from making connections on stream for everyone to see, so if anyone goes from niji to vsj later noone would question it(Like Nina became friends with IM).
>>66569479
Now its too late, they should have banned collabs with other companies from the start and just allowing collabs with indies.

>>66568122
>Really curious how nijimanagement rationalizes livers leaving for vshojo
Nijisanji and Hololive have a Japanese style agreement where they won't poach talents from the other company. VShojo isn't part of that and doesn't mind taking vtubers from other companies. This might not change much on the JP side where the brand name is a huge deal but will be a game changer for the EN side. This was bigger than Mysta and Pomu since even Kronii was making connections with VShojo. Whatever contract fights are going on with HoloEN is partly getting worked out because management realized how bad it looks when vtubers leave for a competitor. NijiEN will have a rough year since a lot of their livers will start to question whether to stay with their company.

>>66571523
Hololive has taken in former NijiJP talents before though.

>>66569621
>NijiEN blocked HoloEN from collabs
Other way around

>>66571523
>since even Kronii was making connections with VShojo.
>Source: it came to me in a dream

>>66571394
They can just as easily make those connection off-stream.

>>66572034
They did that once near as I know. And people believe that this caused a no-poach agreement since nobody jumped from one to the other ever again.

>>66562996
as soon as china tries to take any of the places they claim is theirs that the US does trade with they will, as they will force the issue.

>I'm going back to school!
>Goes to vshojo uni

>>66572103
Yeah, but its harder to do and who needs to make connection as a streamer if it doesnt benefit them(no collabs)? And it makes harder to justify you moving to another company to previous fans without sounding like a backstabber.

>>66572034
>talents
Sample size: 1, 4 years ago. And it was her leaving Nijisanji on her own because of how shit it is.
Yet you retards act like they do it every gen

>>66572859
>And it was her leaving Nijisanji on her own because of how shit it is.
That's not any different from what's happening now.

>>66572087
It's true. Do your reps if it really interests you.

>>66563088
Exactly, reading between the lines everything makes sense

>>66562996
You lost

>>66562494
Do you not know english or something?

>>66567094
>will be allowed to do everything she wants without hindrance
>will be with her best friend and her oshi(s)
>will still be the same girl
What's the problem

Just look at how the move worked for Henya
>got into a 3D concert within three months
>already has a second outfit and a proper 3D model being worked on
>has already done three songs
>CCV damn-near tripled
>she is much more confident in herself and happier than ever

>>66568122
Riku literally lied to investors and told them that livers graduate because they are finished with content creation and never resurface.

>>66564290
Let's not ignore the fact that Hololive fans similarly turned on Kson

Though it's true that Nijifags are, for some reason, significantly more vindictive and spiteful.
There's tribalfagging and then there's being positively psychotic.

>>66569075
Matara and Kuro would have left anyway. Vshojo was just picking them up when it was all but confirmed.

I'm a cuck for having reading comprehension

>>66564015
If you do, then get ready to learn Japanese buddy

>>66572087
Anon if you do your archive reps you can find out Kronii's RM appeared in a major VShojo event with some obvious symbolism. Kronii was definitely thinking of graduation and that was part of the reason why contract renewals in HoloEN were extra heated this winter.

>>66566781
>has friends, including her kamioshi notHenya in the group
>this is a bad thing somehow

>>66568611
I didnt expect that many to be fighting for iofi numbers

>>66575994
>voice actor gets paid to voice act
huuuge drama

>>66572859
>And it was her leaving Nijisanji on her own because of how shit it is.
Wait you retards seriously think Vshojo is actively poaching?

>>66576775
You would have to be braindead to doubt that
Kson literally said they poached her and she poached Rushia
Kuro said he only went to Vshojo to deal with his tax evasion (he would be in jail otherwise)

>>66576879
Holy shit you really have no idea what poaching means. How the fuck can you POACH someone who got terminated.

>>66573562
>Western Taiwan obtains a rebroadcast of an old concert
>Taiwan gets a live concert
Based on knowing which is the real China

>>66576879
no she didn't

>>66576879
Anon, it's only poaching if they actively solicit people working for another company to move there while they still work at the previous company. That may have happened to an extent with the NijiEN members, but kson was an indie for a full year and Rushia was fired.

>>66576775
Depends what you mean. If the rrats are real, they are hiring people that are already employed at other corpos, which is a poach.
Are they reaching out to them? Maybe, probably not, it's probably someone sending Ironmouse a DM.

>>66574632
he also said viewership was dropping because EN viewers were discovering JP

>>66562494
>plans
>vtuber plans
okay retard

>>66577074
And even with the former NijiENs, you would have to assume that they were lying when they said that VShojo approached them after they decided to leave

>>66577099
I must have missed that idea. It would explain why they're letting NijiEN sink, if they think it's a lost cause anyway

>>66577083
Maybe watch some streams instead of reading rrats about Vshojo all day.

>>66577229
Okay well I am pretty confident that Pomu, and probably Selen too, are going to turn up as new Vshojo vtubers this year. They will probably never admit they graduated with a contract already promised if not signed, but it will be obvious to everyone but you.

>>66577377
Matara and Kruo both stated they were already quitting before Vshojo approached them with an offer.

>>66568611
Luxiem literally disintegrated...

>>66562494
I'm so glad she's out of this sinking ship. Same with Selen. Now somebody needs to save Rosemi and Maria.

>>66577457
I didn't say anything about Matara and Kuro. Maybe they really did just up and decide to graduate with zero plans and stumbled into Vshojo, or maybe they have to say that. But nobody's going to believe that if Pomu and Mika turn up after the "back to school" stuff.

>>66576389
Kronii picked a curious event to make her VShojo appearance and even on /vt/ most people didn't pick up on the symbolism. HoloEN got extremely close to having a talent follow the same path as Coco.

>>66577650
It could literally be the same situation for them.

>>66572654
Ok i give up. I'll just pray that Ironlung's HIV will kill her

The problem with vshojo is that most of her fanbase is on youtube. I can see a lot of her fans just going back to holo instead of watching twitch.

>>66577690
2 more weeks sister, you better get ready to sign that on your grave

>>66577817
They'll learn, Matara's did

>>66577817
She doesn't have to go to Twitch. She can stream on Youtube or even simulcast. It's up to her.

>has lots of plans
>all plans shot down
>leaves

>>66577817
one of the best things about joining vshojo is that nearly all the tribalists, unicorns and general schizos leave/get filtered by that and other reasons without it affecting their viewership numbers

Matas almost tripled her ccv and no longer has to worry about luxiem spergs while kuro's schizos been reduced to one

>>66577746
She doesn't have HIV.

>>66567094
POG

>>66568308
>>66576276
>friends
Matara and Henya. Two people. That's it.
Hololive would definitely hold the door open for someone like Pomu. She'd just have to wait until EN4, but they could also pull an Irys at any point.
Vshojo just dumped more money at her feet and offered to put together a cheap new desgin and a cheap 3D model as soon as they could.

>>66574534
>got into a 3D concert
It wasn't Henya dancing, anon.
>CCV tripled
I always find it funny when non-numberfags try to numberfag.
Also, you forgot the biggest downside, she lost one of the most iconic models in all of vtubing for a generic one.

>>66578545
Why are you so hell bent on forcing her in Hololive?

>>66578585
Anon is exaggerating, it was more like a doubling. Most vtubers like to have a bigger audience.
>muh iconic model
She designed Henya herself, that's on her. I don't think she gives a shit if some fag in the catalog thinks it's a downgrade.

>>66578634
It's a better option than joining the e celeb orbiter company

>>66578716
And Hololive isn't that?

>>66578716
Stop getting your opinions from /here/ and watch streams.

>>66571523
Crazy how losing Silver, Vei and Nyanners to Mythic probably sparked everything. Their talent freedom campaign with Kson didn't take off fast after Nazuna but then they got Henya, then Gun met Kuro, then Matara came and now they're bold enough to shitpost Vshojo University.
Vtuber Bronze Age is starting.

>>66578785
obsessed chimp

>>66578779
The only ones with ties to ecelebs are the twitch subhumans like ollie and mori that absolutely nobody would mourn if they graduate

>>66578890
>thousands of (You) troglodytes treating talents like shit if they do something they don't like
This is why we don't want Pomu in Hololive

>>66577650
>just up and decide to graduate with zero plans
Kuro had decided what, nine months in advance? And spent that time getting the model and assets done so he could come back right away as an indie.

Mata wasn't nearly as long but she also was getting ready to debut as an indie when Gun gave her the pitch.

Far as I know, both Pomu and Mika had decided on graduating well before the actual announcement, and it's just common sense to start lining something up before you're out of a job.

>>66578924
We dont want Nijisanji's trash either so we are in agreement.

>>66578924
>we
We? You don't even watch Pomu.

>>66578966
Then maybe stop begging for her to join it

>>66578957
I don't disagree with you at all. I just don't see the point in denying that they were acquired by Vshojo while still employed at Nijisanji.

>>66578966
>trash
More like a turd

>>66578967
Neither do you, numbermonkey. All you'll treat her as if she joins is a number of concurrent views on stream just like you do with the other Holo girls.

>>66578585
>It wasn't Henya dancing, anon.
... And?
>she lost one of the most iconic models in all of vtubing
That was unavoidable. That's what happens when the company owns the IP.
Her new design is not only hers to keep forever, but it's one that she designed herself to her own personal preference.

>>66579059
>All you'll treat her as if she joins is a number of concurrent views on stream
This is literally the only reason why Vshojo simps are excited to poach her. You guys don't care about her.

>>66579108
If you think henyafags and matafags don't care about Pomu, you're off your rocker. Their interactions are kino.

>>66579108
Struck a nerve didn't I?

>>66576775
Obviously?

>>66577724
Not that poster but twice could be a coincidence, then 3+ establishes a pattern.
I'm not saying they shook hands over a deal while they were still under contract, but independently talking to riggers and composers and talking about taxes like Pomu did in her Minecraft stream mean everyone's certainly been accomodating good relationships.
And of course I wouldn't say exactly what I was up to while under contract either. Don't want to risk being dragged in a petty and frivolous lawsuit that wastes everyone's health, time and money.

>>66579026
Because there is no actual evidence to suggest that that happened.

Pomu is fed up with Japanese corpo permissions faggotry, she's not going to apply for Hololive.

>>66579236
Nah dude. She's totally a hardcore idolfag which is why she's going to wait 18 months while her fanbase evaporates so she can join a company where she gets to do an idol concert once a year.

>>66563468
Niji fanbase is the worst. How can they turn on her so easily.

>>66579321
Holobeggars who will treat her as nothing but the number of viewers she gets on a stream afterwards are even worse.

How long until we see people joining niji for a chance to join vshojo?

>>66579379
Anycolor does run VTA though
VShojo Training Academy

>>66579377
>>66579321
>screenshot your own shitpost and post it elsewhere
>WOW I CANT BELIEVE HOLOFAGS/NIJIFAGS WOULD SAY THIS
Transparent

>>66579377
Good thing she's heading to VShojo where numberfags are shot on sight

>>66578292
>nearly all the tribalists, unicorns and general schizos leave/get filtered
That "nearly" is really doing some work, arguably the biggest schizo on this board is a vshojo fan who has spent thousands of dollars on viewbots trying and failing to prove a tribalist point

>>66579169
Hope you figure out how to use a dictionary

>>66578957
Matara was possibly planning to be an IRL streamer. She mentioned planning to go to Antarctica (likely to meet with Pomu there)

>>66579538
That guy is not a vshojoGOD. He samefags and plays both sides of the argument over Ironmouse. He even got caught using the anti edit of an Ironmouse image in /#/ on a pro-Mouse post. He is just a gigantic schizo and isn't a fan of any vtubers.

>>66579629
Doing an IRL stream doesn't preclude you from vtubing

>>66579538
>arguably the biggest schizo on this board is a vshojo fan who has spent thousands of dollars on viewbots trying and failing to prove a tribalist point
First time I've heard of this
He sure as hell isn't in our thread

>>66579538
He's a vshojo anti and a vile numberfaggot.

>>66574847
They turned on Kson after she joined Vshojo tho. Which was a decent while after she left Hololive. Pomu ain't even out the door and the Nijisisters are already turning on her

>>66579663
>>66579747
The fact remains that he is a schizo who very definitively was not filtered
Plus you can look at literally any thread about the business side of vtubing and 1/4 of the posts are using vshojo as a shitposting angle, fans or otherwise they are as embroiled in retarded console wars as anyone else

>>66579764
lol no
you fags were calling her a camwhore, spamming "creative freedom" and making fun of her numbers way before she joined vshojo

>>66578967
So its nijis that are pushing for Pomu in hololive?

The majority of this board was fine with Coco going her own way. It was false flagging njinegros who threw a fit when she joined vshoujo. And anytime one of theirs leave, they instantly hate them and accuse them of a bunch of stupid crimes. Stop trying to change the facts.

>>66579932
You sound schizophrenic

>>66579834
He was not filtered because he does not watch Ironmouse. He just uses her to engage in his schizofaggotry in /#/. He has also does this with numerous other vtubers and the numberfags will tell you the same thing.

>>66579834
He's just falseflagging. How hard is that for you to understand? He's not part of the fanbase.

>>66572654
You simply can't defend this

>>66579971
yes, to an average nijinegro, not having undying loyalty to a company must seem crazy.

>>66579994
The original post I replied to implied that schizos and shitposters simply magically disappear from someone's vicinity when they move to vshojo, which anyone who's looked at the catalog for 5 seconds can tell you is not true
The vast majority of console war shitposts on this board are falseflaggers and if you try posting the same thing in global or vsj+ or wherever you will get called a retard and told to fuck off, it's all just people looking for easy (You)s

>>66580289
Look, of course there are schizos and tribalists in every fanbase. But he is correct that vshojofags have, to date, been significantly less involved in the tribal wars than nijifags or holofags. Maybe that will change, hope not, but it's not the case right now.
Since the topic of /#/, check it out sometimes. It's tribalist central. Guess how many vshojofags there are? Zero. It's only the one schizo falseflagging.

>>66580433
I hope you realise the irony in saying that your fanbase is the one that would never be tribalist for real and it's all of the other ones that are actually bad

>>66580534
Never said that retard. My post was very reasonable which is why you had to make shit up rather than address it. If you think the tribal wars have been anything but overwhelmingly holo vs. niji (so far) you are either blind or a turbo newfag.

>be Pomudachi since debut
>listen to her talk about how much she loves Pikamee/Henya
>she's the happiest of all when she collabs with her particularly
>potentially could reunite with her in VShojo
>this is somehow a bad thing
I don't get it

>>66580724
Henya was united with her oshi Zen, Matara was united with her oshi Mouse, now Pomu will be united with her oshi Henya. It's how VShojo rolls

>>66562494
you lost sister, move on

>>66578545
Why do the retards still think it makes sense for Pomu to join Holo? I hate vshojo, ironmuse and whoretubers but it is the smartest decision for pomu

>>66580669
You're assuming that the people presenting as fans of the company you like are all falseflaggers while the people presenting as fans of the other ones are all real, with no basis for assuming that other than tribalism.

Liar

>>66582146
I'm not presuming that. I agree most of the shitstirrers are falseflaggers if that's what you're trying to pry out of me.

>>66579932
I would believe it if it weren't that nowadays /here/ retards break containment and it's easy to see if they are nijifag or holofag by looking at their twitter profiles.

>>66562996
soon

>>66574534
>Just look at how the move worked for Henya
>became a fotm meta with daily react segments
vshojo turns bitches into complacent, lazy slobs. niji dictatorship is unironically good

>>66585770
Almost if not all of Pikamee's Twitch streams were exclusively reacting
She unironically does it less now

>fotm meta
https://twitchtracker.com/henyathegenius/games
You know what, you're right. All the does is play what's currently popul--
Hold on...

>>66585770
you didn't watched her before her new life faggot

>>66587259
I watched her in 2020/21 before she got worse and worse

>>66585770
Who cares what she plays when she is getting more popular than before, twitchfags like that type of content. Vtubing is getting westernised and you cant do shit about that. Only holoen/nijien has not fallen yet.

>>66562494
Did you even read this? I just did. All she says is there's a lot of uncertainty; obviously she couldn't leak early that she was graduating. She doesn't say anything about having "lots of plans"

>>66575009
As if the average computer won't be able to instantly translate any text to any other language using AI by 2024. We're pretty much there now, all that's left is polish and refinement.

>>66585770
>became a fotm meta with daily react segments
>became
Tell me you didn't watch Pikamee without actually telling me

>>66575994
Wrong, she planned to graduate after Sana's graduation like this past July, but EN was fixed when Omega was fired and she plans to stay for a long time, now.

>>66587441
>Vtubing is getting westernised and you cant do shit about that.
I can always stop watching, in fact I did that a year ago

If I were in charge of Niji I would outright blacklist Vslutshow and bar all talents from collabing or interacting with them and their secondaries.

>>66587703
Then why are you still on this board? Shoo shoo

>>66587999
Too bad kurosanji will never be competent enough to do it kek

>>66587999
Too late but yeah, they really should. Maybe after 2 more talents poached they will get the memo

>>66588026
>implying anyone /here/ actually watches streams

>>66579851
Not true.
You can literally see the change happen in real time, because she decided it would be a good idea to announce on the year anniversary of her graduation. There were threads calling her a messiah this and that, celebrating kson, rewatching her graduation stream. All that positive energy was instantly chilled because it was awkward and confusing. Then it turned hostile when Kanata announced her move the next day and Ksongumi went to war with Cover to justify themselves.

>>66587999
Maybe you should instead try to take better care of the talent so that they won't keep jumping ship or try to kill themselves

>>66564035
kek

>>66588550
>taking henri threads seriously
>monkey delusions
>ksongumi
>more monkey delusions

>>66569075
Is banning collabs supposed to somehow dupe the talent into forgetting there are other agencies within the vtuber space? You don't seem to have thought this through

>>66587999
i love how monkeys actually believe this
>If I were in charge of Niji I would outright blacklist Vslutshow and bar all talents from collabing or interacting with them and their secondaries.
amazing, outright dodging the problem that they have entirely just because they don't want the pink V company to do anything to them kek

>>66588682
Who are you even quoting bro.
It's all water under the bridge in my mind, but that's the history. It was a kind of predictable and mutual hatred born out of necessity. Either Kson didn't tell her best friend about her plans or Cover forced Kanata to lie. Either Coco left because she was bullied out or she just couldn't hack it as a corpo.
If you worship the ground she walks on you have to hate Cover. Which led into the fighting.

>>66577650
It's not zero plans. You know you are going to have a bunch of opportunities and you know that if you don't like them you are going to just roll indie. Part of being cagey is to not be dependent because if the straight to vshojo pipeline becomes dominant vshojo will just start doing shittier contracts since it's a captive audience.

>>66589254
that's not the history at all
third world faggots like you have been spamming the same exact anti catchphrases ever since she graduated and now you pretend it's justified since she joined vshojo and you never did it before that
that's the real history

>>66574534
This. She being a fairy isn't even relevant for anything she does anyway, so the change of character won't hurt her.

>>66578716
What do you think vtubers are if not e celebs anon? Stop kidding yourself

>>66574534
I know her oshi is Henya, but who's her best friend again?

>>66585770
>became a fotm meta with daily react segments
Yeah, she didn't change at all, which is great.

>>66589512
Matara, as much as the retards in the niji thread would lead you to believe that they aren't friends, they are. All they're antics within niji as well as pomu liveposting during matara's vshojo debut is kinda proof of it all

>>66589622
Oh, yeah. I never got around to watch her all that much back then, but now I remember some of her interactions.

>>66587999
Weird that Hololive allows VShojo collabs and is not bleeding talent like this

Surely VShojo is the problem and not the abysmal internal environment at Nijisanji

>>66589622
Yeah, the amount of effort they go through to make coded references to each other despite apparently being banned from saying each others' names is insane.

>>66589399
Alright newfag I'll prove it. These threads were right before the switch.
>>/vt/thread/27218507
>>/vt/thread/27185032
>>/vt/thread/27173978
During
>>/vt/thread/27286496
After
>>/vt/thread/27340836
>>/vt/thread/27357033

Just from a simple search in the time frame with the keyword coco. Look into it deeper yourself if you want. I don't know why you want to believe she was always hated. You're not an autist that thinks calling her "bitch" is hating on her right?

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>>66589878
one of your threads is literally a henri thread lmao

>>15355495
>>15372009
>>15355390
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>>15336798
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>>15097144
see it's the exact same third world shit you "people" say about her today

>>66574534
>>What's the problem
>Twitch
>No VODs

>>66590425
....but there are VODs anon, the streamer just needs to enable them

>>66590470
>>the streamer just needs to enable them
So no vods. Or vods for a bit and then nothing, like Whiskey, Matara, Fallen shadow, etc.

>>66590592
i think you're fighting ghosts anon, i just clicked on matara's channel and can look at basically every VOD, idk bout the rest lol

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>>66590767
anon have you looked at her twitch channel? at the video tab? where you can see all of her VODs?

>>66590837
No, I don't use Twitch.

>>66590253
I don't know who your boogeyman is or what you're trying to prove with those random anti posts.
I proved Holo fans were still loving her up until that day.

Everyone has anti posts about them on this board. I can pull up anti posts about anyone and try to make the same point, and then call them the "others" like a schizo tribalfag. You're quite literally the biggest (genuine) tribalist I've ever seen.

>>66590872
that's not my problem kek, i gave you the solution to your vod problem and if you don't want to take then that's fine

>>66590837
Anon the oldest one is from November 16. Where are the other Vods from before that?

>>66590906
>I proved Holo fans were still loving her up until that day.
most of them still do

people like you and the people who made the posts i linked to hated her before she joined vshojo
only difference is now you use her joining vshojo to justify your hate which already existed and hasn't changed
only a few people actually changed their mind but you pretend it was some huge change in public perception when it's just you and your faggy friends ramping up the same shitposting you had been at for months
not sure how pointing this out makes me a tribalfag

>>66590425
Most streamers reup the VODs to YouTube
Which you're already using so I don't know why you'd bitch about it

>>66591603
Whiskey's last VOD was 1 year ago.
Matara was 3 weeks ago.
Shondo was 4 months ago.
They're not uploading the VODs anymore.

>>66591554
>Let's not ignore the fact that Hololive fans similarly turned on Kson
>you fags were calling her a camwhore, spamming "creative freedom" and making fun of her numbers way before she joined vshojo
These are your words? You 180 on that when it suits you tribal psycho?

By the way everytime you say "you people" nobody but you has any idea exactly who you are referring to.

>>66591843
the first one is not me you retard

>>66562494
if this doesn't sound to you like someone about to graduate to you then you should do some reading between the lines reps

>>66591688
Partner VODs stay for two months so Mata's still got everything
I do not know Whiskey and I do not care about Shondo
Just because they aren't uploaded doesn't mean they haven't been saved. Meat, for example, has a large backlog of VODs that she's catching up to with batch uploads every so often

Besides, do you really need to watch every single stream?
And at the end of the day, it's on the streamer if they aren't preserving their VODs. It's not Twitch's fault, we all know the score.
And it's unreasonable to expect Twitch to keep every stream archived in perpetuity. That's an unbelievable amount of data, the vast majority of which comes from users who generate literally 0 revenue.

>>66591843
also you know what i mean when i say "you people"
people like you
sea/latam teenage boys who post in /#/, watch depressed nousagi, follow bannedvtmemes, obsess over every vtuber drama ever

>>66591554
The start of this reply chain was someone (you?) asserting that "hololive fans turned on her", repeating that a few times, and now you're saying they didn't
From what I remember of global and the hololive splits at the time the harshest reaction she got from anyone who wasn't already a schizo was from heimins who had to put up with weeks of stressed out Kanata finding a new apartment because it was sprung on her by surprise, which was reasonable
Even today if you go shitpost about her in global people will just accuse you of being Chinese

>>66591891
>>66592048
You're nuts. If you agreed with my point I don't understand what you're even mad about. Like "you're right but I decided you're as crazy as me so I hate you"
I bet if I keep responding you'd be raging against your strawmen for dozens of hours.
Scary...

>>66592286
but i'm not agreeing with you?
you're implying that the board turned on her when she joined vshojo
i'm pointing out that it's literally the same antis she always had since graduating hololive

>>66562996
Amen

>>66574847
Rushia is probably a better example of how they took the word of the CEO over a beloved member.

>>66562494
mucho texto