/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Doki stocks are so high right now

Explains the inactivity for today actually

>>66484369
MARRY ME DOKIBIRD
I PROMISE WILL LOVE YOU FOR WHO YOU ARE IN THE INSIDE AND I WILL PAY FOR YOUR NEW MODEL AS DOWRY

Nocturnal just got bird out of platinum hell!
https://apexlegendsstatus.com/profile/PC/Dokibirdo#S-match-history
https://apexlegendsstatus.com/profile/PC/Xset_nocturnal#S-match-history
They will keep playing together until reaching masters, like they did before

>>66484999
No, the inactivity for today was because she stayed up all night playing Apex.
Probably got finalized yesterday, that's the reason for the tweets, now it's a waiting game for the announcement. Could be two more weeks, could be next month so NijiEN doesn't have to have two of their top female talents graduate in a single month.

>>66479812
>>66480659
This dude is actually a wizard holy fuck
Anon, please, make a prediction for when she's coming back :'(

>>66484369
It’s over… and yet, we’re back…

BOOSTED BITCH
BOOSTED BITCH
BOOSTED BITCH

>>66485609
Schizos always call it. You can get mad at us but we can see things you can't.

>>66485768
She's not beating the boosted allegations getting carried by her bf nocturnal

>>66486002
you can match the timestamp of their games
they aren't playing together rn, unless noct is also on an alt

Based janny.

It's actually crazy this is happening.
I really hope she is fired or quits. She doesn't deserve this.

>>66487499
It's really fucking likely she was on her way out before this even started.

>>66487565
Oh, she was definitely on her way out, she had started posting as Doki for a month now and was setting up merch even before the sonf went up, if anything the song bullshit just accelerated (kek) everything.

>>66487903
She hadn't gotten any merch in months in NijiEN nor voice packs. She had already sent in her resignation, it's just that she had already recorded her AR Live shit unlike Pomu, so her graduation wasn't going to be until after it was released

>>66487903
Was it the shit year she had at kurosanji? All i know is she brokedown over doing bad in an Apex tourney, got a tourney she wanted to organize cancelled, was misled for when she did the "Holo-Niji" tourney and then the song bullshit

>>66486862
That's because trackers are shit
>They aren't playing together
Anon how new
>Due to limitations in the API we can only retrieve data from the Legend you have currently selected
Trackers can desinc
https://apexlegendsstatus.com/profile/PC/Dokibirdo#S-match-history
https://apexlegendsstatus.com/profile/PC/Xset_nocturnal#S-match-history
>Both accounts have positive-negative-positive-positive-negative LP
That's not just a coincidence anon, And yes, they gain and lose different amounts of LP depending on different factors, this was also seen when they played together on stream

>>66488036
This was planned for months now, so track when her last merch announcement was and guesstimate

>>66485609
They are so predictable that even the wording is spot-on.

Do you want her to come back as the dragon?

>>66487309
not based enough, letting this off topic thread about a long graduated vtuber stay up

>>66485609
She's not. You don't have to be that Anon to see it.

>>66488457
Go suck company cock at /HAHA/, fake fan.

>>66488372
Dokidragon

>>66487967
>AR Live
that thing ain't happening again.

>>66487903
What are the odds she planned the song getting canned to get good PR for her PL?

>>66488372
kind of
her previous persona is a thief, which is kinda meh as a concept

>>66486862
That's because trackers are shit
>They aren't playing together
Anon how new
>Due to limitations in the API we can only retrieve data from the Legend you have currently selected
Trackers can desinc
https://apexlegendsstatus.com/profile/PC/Dokibirdo#S-match-history
https://apexlegendsstatus.com/profile/PC/Xset_nocturnal#S-match-history
>Both accounts have positive-negative-positive-positive-negative LP
That's not just a coincidence anon, And yes, they gain and lose different amounts of LP depending on different factors, this was also seen when they played together on stream

>>66488873
This is a total rrat but there's also the middle option of "at this point, she just didn't care".

>>66488898
She should do something that's not close enough to a dragon for anyone to be pissy about it, but is barely pushing the line. Maybe make Dokibird into a snake-bird, specifically a Quetzalcoatl

>>66488974
How many times do the jannies need to delete your post before it gets through your thick schizo head?

>>66486002
>>66488974
some "people" never learn

>>66488873
I don't think so, she most likely intended it for it to be her farewell song but niji wasn't having any of that

>>66488873
Requires too much planning since she had to get permission to upload the song only for it to get canned later by higher ups.

>>66489405
should've done it by the rules
pomu is gonna have a fabulous graduation month with ton of outfit reveals and concerts and an actual farewell song original

>>66489218
>Quetzalcoatl
That's a snake with feathers.

why hasn't she graduated yet?

>>66489539
Yes. A snake-bird. Anything with feathers is a bird.

>>66489519
Fuck off Millie, you aren't fooling anyone

>>66489733
a trex is a bird, gotcha

>>66489579
She did, back in 2021, dude.

>>66489778
If you have seen a cassowary, you know this is true.

>>66487499
Slowchama...

>>66489519
The producer and singer of the song are in record saying that they sent the permissions to nijisanji months ago. Shut the fuck up with the "she didn't get perms" rrat.

>>66489778
>dino-chuuba
Clever girl

>>66488657
close enough

>>66489850
She should come back as a cassowary.

>>66484369
I want to huff her pussy fumes and suckle on her saucer nipples!!!

This is going to be a scouting war.
Every box has a reason to want doki.

vshojo・・・"vsaikyo (organized by sibuya hal)", "bolt room (organized by bolt room)", "apex festival (organized by uuum)".
The network of people who can participate in these events is doki

vspo・・・vspo definitely wants doki, who will be the ace in the hole if vspo en is created as a separate unit from mirai.

holo...they want "strong woman" for horizontal reconstruction. aqua is self-preservation or she doesn't appear in the competition. Aqua has abandoned Horizontal.
Towa has also given up on Horizontal, but if DOKI comes to HOLO, the situation will change drastically.
HOLOEN is on average weaker in the game than HOLOJP, which has hurt HOLOEN's pride, but the "absolute ace" coming to EN will motivate EN members.
I think that scouting negotiations will be mixed with negotiations to invite "en", "ID" and other doki such as Axel, Zeta, etc.

I think every box has a reason to want doki to come even if they present "preparation money".
Where would doki choose to go? vspo is hard to stand out because "everyone is good at the game".
I think it is HOLO where doki shines the brightest.

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>>66488873
Highly likely. I mean why spend so much time and effort for an idol song?

>>66490263
This is really good bait. Well done EOP-kun.

>>66490263
Genuinely, please, keep us abreast of insane JP speculation.

>>66490263
i guess no one on the jp boards gives a shit about this drama if you had to resort to posting here

>>66490665
Actually, that's a good point. Does anyone know what they think about this, if they do at all?

>>66491149
selen is the most EOP of all the EOP. i doubt she has JP fans

>>66489864
Why did it get taken down, then?

>>66491451
Has that ever stopped people here talking confidently about Vtubers that speak Japanese?

>>66491451
she's done some apex jp cups

>>66491451
It isn't.
She's popularly called "tatuki," not "selen."
"A woman who is good at games" is easily believed in Japan.
This is also why aqua is so popular.
If it's Pom and tatuki, tatuki has many Japanese fans.
I think they want the holo-live, too, for DOKI.
Pom is a good distributor, but I think if you care about enikara, you'll say, "I'll just use someone else...".
I've accepted Luna and others "back in the day".

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Man even if this is a larp it's great, bravo.

>>66491526
It wasn't perms because the song's singer and her producer confirmed that they gave nijisanji the perms, and selen stated in the stream after the song released that management finally gave her the permision to release it after months of her asking. Whatever the reason, we have three people vouching that permissions were given vs zero claiming that permissions were not given.

Looking back at her tweets, she playing Apex to keep her mind occupied and to pass time. The emote comms are also just as means to give back, not to primarily earn money.
To the fact that she wants people to donate to charities instead since it seems that she doesn't need the money. Looks like she's just waiting like the rest of us. Whatever it may be.

>>66489218
>Quetzalcoatl
She'll be the first vtuber who allows superchats to be paid for in human sacrifices.

>>66489218
How difficult would it be to distinguish a wurm from a dragon? I feel like ditching the dragon concept is sad and a waste, since slen fits her personality so well

>>66485780
They spam rrats, so some of them will eventually be correct. "Simpsons already did it"

>>66493707
It was literally this nigga.

For hololive, doki will be a key player in building a huge branding with Horizontal Reconstruction
for vspo, doki will be the leader of Vspoen
For vshojo, doki will be their ticket to a distributor FPS tournament in Japan

doki is more than just a "great distributor", she is a person who can change the destiny of a company.
There are plenty of "great distributors" among the applicants.

I think the hololive will be the most fulfilling experience when you consider the overall experience with the reconstruction of the Horizontal and the commemorative 3D live show.
doki... why don't you take charge of the "gaming section of the holo-live"?
Like the Holo Mario Kart Cup, I believe that HoloLive is the company where women who are good at games get the most respect.
In vspo, it's "normal", but women who are good at games in hololive have a "special feeling".
doki, why don't you join the holo-live and become a "special lady"?

>>66489227
>>66489244
She's literally playing with nocturnal, nothing else matters to her
Not only she's back to apex, she's playing with nocturnal
>6 minutes ago
>1 hour ago
In both profiles
https://apex.tracker.gg/apex/profile/origin/Dokibirdo/matches
https://apex.tracker.gg/apex/profile/origin/XSET_Nocturnal/matches

>>66494158
She's going to VShojo.

>>66494183
Looking forward to your post once again being deleted in a bit, schizo-kun
At this point it's just hilarious to see it happen

>>66494158
WRONG
phase connect

>>66494158
Fight the good fight, larper and/or JPgoon-san
Keep doing those EN reps and I bet Doki will read your comment one day

>>66494193
I sure as fuck hope not

Last bump.

>>66494193
Out of three people who are the recent targets of /in/ talk I'd say Selen/Doki feels like one with the weakest link. Her contacts in VShojo are minimal compared to Pomu and Mika, the recent follows by Zen and Kson's rigger muddy things up some, but even so it seems unlikely.
She would be welcome if it happens, but something like VSPO still feels more probable.

>>66496080
see >>66494326

kinda curious, is it normal for apex/valo/etc tracker posts for en streamers to get deleted? it's just normal to keep track of that stuff for jp. not really clear what rule it's breaking other than schizos being annoying but 90% of posts on the board should get deleted for that

>>66494158
>>66490263
Horizontal is dead.
Hololive badly needs a planner and coordinator now that Ame has totally burned herself out. Doki would be that person. Sure she'd still have to deal with Jap red tape, but it's the company that would give her the most resources and greatest reach. Plus the new policy for the 3D studio is great for EN.
And could directly interact with her Mumei more too.

>>66490263
How does she help Holizontal when she can't speak Japanese? Unless they move hlzntl to the English branch but it doesn't help them much there. It's much harder to get the kind of sponsorships hlzntl was going for in Japan than in the EN scene.
It's vspoEN or nothing.

>>66497663
The tracker schizo is an anti.

>>66491526
Incompetent management or malicious management, one or the other. They gave it the ok without actually checking something or they gave it the ok knowing they would be taking it down. Anyone trying to pin this on Selen is actually fucking braindead.

>>66494910
kinda looks like watson from apex

>>66488372
My modest proposal is for Dokibrd to be a hyena girl, the reasons should be self-evident.

>>66503064
>the reasons should be self-evident.
fat futa cock?

>>66503232
laughter?

>>66503064
being a furry?

>>66488248
It's called being a company. Cover's wordings are predictable as well.

>>66503282
a fat futa cock, got it.

bump

Doki should play Doki Doki Literature Club just for the thumbnail potential

>>66503232
it's not a cock, it's actually an elongate vagina that completely engulfs the male's penis. the female is also significantly larger than the male

>>66506079
Dude just stfu

>>66506132
this is biological fact

>>66506079
Can you imagine if women’s vaginas were on the outside? Like fleshlights hanging off their crotch just waiting to dom your little peepee. Frottage between a man and a woman, just rubbing dicks and vaginas together. Deep throating your girls erect vagina. Giving her a footjob. Her slipping her lubed up vagina into your gaping ass.

Also, I love doki.

>>66506909
That's not how it works for spotted hyenas (the only type of hyena with weird vaginas). It retracts and works like any other mammal's hole when aroused. It's extended so it's harder to be fucked off-season.

Good morning barkknigh- what the fuck are you guys talking about?

in hyena society, everyone is forced to suck the alpha female's massive throbbing clitoris everywhere she goes

>>66503064
>>66508339
h-hot

>>66506909
Unironically into that, yeah. There's an extremely satisfying amount of it, I'm not starved for choice.

Please be normal.

dokibird
sitting on my face

Bros...I just want her back and as far away as possible from Kurosanji...
Some schizo on the other thread keeps sperging out about the accident being serious, but there is no way...right?

>>66511219
She was back home after a literal couple of days, the sisters are coping hard and tryong to damage control to cover up for the fact that she was given the Zaion/Gundou treatment and was stealth terminated

>>66491526
Probably cause she showed Mysta and Nina.

dtto now following doki on twitter via her pl/alt account (@nbzkthy).
Also rpr followed her the other day.

>>66513264
Who?

>>66513264
Rpr has always been a bro im glad he supports doki

>>66513264
prepare the purple dragon funeral

>>66513264
>@nbzkthy
huh, thought she said she was gonna delete that account. this is a new follow?

>>66513466
Il be surprised if there even is one and not just deleted and ceased to exist like zaion

>>66513517
They always say that kind of shit and then come crawling back.

>>66513297
God I forget who she was originally, but I think Dtto was Qu reincarnated after she left Re:AcT.

Can't wait for the Apex marathon streams haha...

I like how that fucking Flipsie person just straight up doxxed her on Twitter. I understand wanting more people to support her but it's still jumping the gun just a smidgen.

>>66514773
I have no idea who this flipsie bitch is, I only see her in twitter replies, but she seems like a gigantic dramawhore. She probably reads this thread, kys flipsie.

>>66514773
>>66514882
Imagine being hated both in vt and twitter, what a bitch

>>66514127
I think her apex streams are very comfy

>>66513517
Yeah, the post is still there if you scroll down just a little. I don't think she's commented on it, but my personal theory is that she applied for an agency after leaving SCARZ (probably vspo), got fairly far in the auditions, but ultimately didn't make it in, so she didn't end up deleting the account in the end.
Because earlier in the year, she was vagueposting about "job", and that if she got the job, she would delete the nbz account and close her discord server. which would probably be something a JP agency would require.

>>66513517
also, yes it's a new follow. within the last couple of hours.

>>66514127
....That's literally what Doki's content consisted of more often than not. This is why I know anyone showing up post 2021 never watched her.

>>66515601
that is what he was saying dumbass

>>66515601
That anon is making a joke about apex spam

>>66515158
>my personal theory is that she applied for an agency after leaving SCARZ (probably vspo), got fairly far in the auditions, but ultimately didn't make it in
dtto would've been a much better hire than what we got if that's the case... could've been a bridge for vspo en too if that's still happening please god no

>>66514127
It would have been fun to see her play the FFVII event. (I'm enjoying it but it feels like a lot of try-hards are filling up the queue.)

>>66514773
If that's doxing, then what do you call this general?

>>66516765
There's a difference between doing it on /vt/ so that anonymous posters can have a discussion without walking on eggshells, and doing it in public where everyone can see so you can chase clout.

>>66496080
true, i think mouse said something about Vshojo not recruiting atm which makes it more unlikely she will go there. Vspo or phase makes more sense desu

>>66488873
Unlikely. She seemed to have a lot of plans for the future and this was the final straw. If she was actually planning on going she'd have wanted to leave properly, the way Mysta, Mika, and Nina did and not the way Yugo did as it looks like it's shaping up

>>66517231
She said no more members for 2023...it's no longer 2023

>>66517231
>no more members in 2023
>2024 will be a busy year
only time will tell

>>66515601
Dummy.

>>66517231
I don't watch Ironmouse but there's a clip of Matara saying she's trying to recruit a new member from like a week ago. She's not talking about Selen, it's probably Mika, but it's definitely not true they're not recruiting.
Realistically, all it would take would be for Doki to call Ironmouse or Gunrun and she'd be instantly accepted. However I don't expect that's the first thing on her mind right now.

>>66516765
People vaguepost doki tweets in /HAHA/, is that also doxxing?
/HAHA/ being up attracts lots of schizos and shitposters because Selen is an easy target right now: does that mean it's a bait/schizo thread?
Don't confuse /vt/ rules with actual doxxing, especially when these rules are inconsistent as fuck, may contradict each other, and are mostly interpretative to jannies and mods.

>>66517688
Eh, they're applied pretty consistently: if there's a vtuber attached to the PL, it's fair game, if not, it can get removed if reported (which often doesn't happen, mind you). The only exception is Gura.

Apparently, Petra is thinking about graduating too It would be interesting if her, Doki, and Pomu all end up in Vshojo with Nina, Mysta and presumably Mika. NijiEN2.

>>66516765
Anon there are 63 unique posters in this thread. That post on Twitter has over 9000 views already. That thread also explicitly says "This is ______." Do you not see the difference?

>>66517768
Nods and winks to PL by active corporate chuubas could be banned. And what of the many indies that show faces as part of their content?

>>66518426
It's particularly shitty because she may not even go back to Doki. If she's hired at a corpo she'll have to get a new name and model, and even if she's indie/vshojo/mythic she may just make something new that's not Doki.

>>66518262
Source?

>>66518641
That's what I was thinking. Maybe she's not ready for that account to have that kind of exposure. She may never want it to. If people wanna work their googlefu or come to the ever accursed 4chan, they'll be able to find out, but that's a fraction of the kind of exposure literally doxxing her on Twitter will do.

>>66518689
She had a membership stream where she said she was going to graduate a while ago but is now going to hang in there. In hindsight it was the same time Pomu submitted her graduation. Theres other instances like her using the same terminology Nina used to talk about not expecting anymore voicepacks in the future and she's rumored to be part of what Nina and Pomu are up to in Japan soon based off something she said in a recent stream about buying cosplay.
It'd break my heart if she ended up leaving. That's someone who just did this for fun.

>>66518439
>PL by active corporate chuubas could be banned.
If the PL is an active vtuber, no, not really. At least not that I have seen. As for indies, as long as they are a vtuber it doesn't seem to be a problem if they show their face (Nyanners, Onigiri).

>>66519348
Man, what a bummer.
Is there seriously something awful going wrong inside this branch or did the vibes just die?

>>66519348
Be funny if she left right after forming Zuttomo with the Enna clique. Maybe she just realized that she was in a wave with the only respectable members of NijiEN but threw it away for nothing.

>>66513466
Her remains will be tossed into a ditch

>>66519401
I got banned for saying Pomu's maid outfit reminded me of someone.
And try making a thread with Nyanner's face and an exact timestamp of her willingly showing it; I promise you you will be banned for "doxxing" lmao
Why all this jannie whiteknighting, anon?

>>66518262
>>66519348
You guys are kidding, right?

>>66519984
Maybe there's another funny exception for Pomu, like Gura. I'm not whiteknighting shit, jannies in this board fucking suck and will actively delete fun and nice threads while leaving hundred of ESL schizoposts up on the catalog. But from what I've seen, for 99% of cases if the PL is a vtuber you can freely talk about it on the vtuber board. I mean, this very general is evidence of that I think. See the mikeneko, fuwamoco or shiori discourses for other examples of that.
Maybe the exceptions for Gura and Pomu are just two specific jannies kek.

>>66519348
wtf bro she's a real nijifan she wouldn't leave

>>66520277
It's just a rrat so far, no one has provided proof publicly of anything. But the way things are going it's hard not to worry.

>>66494158
I don't know how many times it needs to be said but Doki's not going to Hololive. Full stop. Stop even entertaining the idea it's completely idiotic. I would say VSPO is too but unironically if VSPO wants to get their foot in the door and make a big impact then loosening some of the JP autism like allowing Doki to continue keeping her identity would be a good move for them and could entice her to join. Problem is of course I don't see them doing that, but it remains a distant possibility.

Otherwise she's going to VShojo, or she's going to become an indie. There is no middle ground. That being said, I'm feeling VShojo is most likely because it's an unbelievable stroke of luck for them that both Pomu and Doki would become free agents at roughly the same time. Lining them both up for a debut would be good for everyone involved, and Pomu + Doki are very close.

Can't wait for the 10 hours streams of apex collabing only with nocturnal, truly exiting

>>66520617
nice try, but you can't throw us off the trail mooms

>>66520617
(This is a shitpost of endearment, not a serious statement)

>>66520617
Referencing previous discussions, VShojo is just the most likely option. Getting in is easy if you have clout, you can debut as soon as the model is done, their members do numbers, all of the other companies are smaller. The only reason she wouldn't join is because she doesn't want to.

>>66519348
Frankly I thought she'd be one of the first to graduate. She was always a college student first, streamer second. Nijisanji always felt like a fun side gig to her more than a full time career. Still sad to hear though. Maybe when she gets her diploma she can work as a full time graphic artist for the JP branch or make official clips for them.

>>66519755
I don't think it's a management or branch issue this time. The EN livers in Japan are in a good position all things considered.

>>66520617
I think they'll both go indie for a while

>>66520477
>>66518262
>>66519348
>>66519755
>>66521020
Its a complete stupid narrative coming from people who never ever watched petra in their life. Petra never said she was going to graduate a while ago, she said she thought she wouldn't last one year because of her abilities as a streamer, thats the only thing she ever said when she said that 2 months or so ago, which is also the same time she said she was extremely happy to be in there and how streaming in nijien is so fun for her in comparison to her univeristy which she sees as obligation. She never ever complained about the management or managers even in member streams
i really wish you faggots stopped dragging my oshi over your stupid narratives because you threadwatch
>Theres other instances like her using the same terminology Nina used to talk about not expecting anymore voicepacks
Petra barely have been in voice packs since the beginning, she goes in and back and always had problems to record them as she explained many times shes terrible planning and doing them and dont like how it ends up most of the time, so she only does it when she feels
> and she's rumored to be part of what Nina and Pomu are up to in Japan soon based off something she said in a recent stream about buying cosplay.
this has nothing to do with them wtf are you talking about. This is for her own personal project.

>>66521597
Wrong thread Pingushart.

>>66521597
Thanks for clarifying

>>66521709
dont mention my oshi in this thread with your stupid narratives when you faggots dont even watch her and you wont see me here. threadwatchers are now anything to make narratives of graduation while having zero context whatsoever. There's like 5 pentomos in this whole board and you want me to leave retards creating narratives out of nowhere.

>>66521897
Essentially yeah, that's all you can do. Schizos gonna rrat, you're just giving them oxygen.
That said I agree with you they shouldn't do it here because Petra is completely off-topic.

>>66522019
i know its offtopic and i apologize, only did because its clearly the same fag who is using the same wording since the finana thread yesterday

>>66520617
JP corpos are so passive. I dont imagine them poaching. Also, the permission autism still remains. Agree with you, is Vshojo or indie nothing else.

>>66508972
What tag should I even search for?

>>66521897
Imagine watching Petra lmaooo
she's very cute and i like her personality a lot, but it's sad she just does JP times and that her game choices rarely interest me. She is my second fave Obsydia member

>>66522019
it's a fine balance though cause schizo narratives can easily achieve critical mass with no pushback becoming self sustaining. then any attempts at legit discussion become impossible as it'll just spark another round of schizo circlejerking. probably not worth responding to anything in what is essentially a bait thread though

>>66519755
I think the vibes just started to die the moment the company went public. Lazulight through Luxiem and maybe Noctyx were probably used to a different working environment compared to now where their branch is now mentioned in Quarterly Earnings Reports. That or any promise of change during a period of "growing pains" seemingly never materialized. That's my rrat anyways.
That or it was the conga-line train of graduations that happened with NijiID plus Nina and Mysta last year. Getting close to that many people only for them to leave probably wasn't good for the mental well being of the group.

>>66520617
>VShojo is most likely because it's an unbelievable stroke of luck for them that both Pomu and Doki would become free agents at roughly the same time
When you put it that way... yeah I can see it happening. One of them or the other, in isolation, I see it as an "eh maybe?" possibility. But if they had them debut at the same time, it would have a much higher chance of success.

>>66489519
I was mad for a second, then I realized you might not be trolling but legitimately believe management+Millie peddled bullshit.

I feel truly bad for you.

>>66524276
It's definitely plausible but Pomu was clear that she doesn't have any plans and sort of told off all the people screaming "she's going to VShojo". She could be engaging in some "creative misdirection" but I think a true poach, i.e. graduation of both girls directly into VShojo doesn't line up with what she said.
Keep in mind, Nina (again, assuming she's telling the truth) didn't initially plan to join VShojo. She called Gunrun, ostensibly for a tech issue, and he offered her a job. So either she's running deep cover to protect the company from allegations that they're contacting girls already employed by corpos and poaching them, or Doki would have to reach out to get in.

>>66524688
fucking whores all vtubers are e-girls.

Only thing I really care about is her not ending up in another JP company

>>66525199
she is going to brave group.

I just want her back and streaming happily with genuine laughter, and to collab with Pomu more. They're always a really good pair

>>66526316
yeah, one of my biggest worries is we will never get the two together again

>>66526316
I expect they will, they'll be collab-banned by Niji so that removes most of their staple collab partners.

>>66526440
not really, it won't affect her Apex friends at all, if anything it would open up more options for her

>>66526570
It's not like she'll only stream Apex, right?
...right?

>>66526636
If she goes indie she can finally play whatever the fuck she wants without asking those retards for permission all the time

>>66526636
.......surely

>>66524688
Nina didn't call Gunrun. Mousey told Gunrun to call her.

Signs of life.

>>66522350
Really the only reason I consider VSPO to not be 100% out of the question as well is just how fucking late they're entering the EN market. Doing so in 2024 feels like it's leaving you destined to be a mid-tier corpo at best and a shadow of the JP side unless they have something huge to launch with, and Doki could do that. But she'd have to be stupid to do that if she wasn't getting an extremely sweet deal, and companies run by old Japanese salarymen probably aren't interested in making concessions in order to have a better chance at success.

It would unironically be smart, but companies don't tend to take risks so I very much doubt it's happening.

>>66529909
I'll be honest with you, VSPO might be the worst outcome. Nip autism even worse than Niji, Apex until she goes menhera, shit numbers, 2views for coworkers. I would much rather see her go to either Phase or VShojo because at least I already like some of the girls there.

>>66530577
this, another jp company would be such a huge mistake and it would just be history repeating itself

>>66529909
yeah im seeing folks saying vspo will be big in EN but then you look at globie and v4mirai and they are all 2viws. and vspo dont even have niji popularity before they opened en, and niji was very niche in itself compared to holo. vspoen imo will be lucky if they have a few 3view

dokibump

Giving Doki a baby bump.

>>66484369
The MV thing and coworkers/management bullying the fuck out of her pushed Doki past the breaking point and she had a miscarriage due to the stress. It’s all very hush hush and personal-info like so you didn’t hear it from me, but I can confirm—I was that fetus.

>>66539967
This anon? My son.

Yeah, they took the cover down because they wanted people to stop noticing things.

dokibump

>>66520307
>>66519984
NTA, but other than jannies and mods being inconsistent, the rule is TYPICALLY enforced as follows. This is the actual meta.
>Myth is untouchable. It does not matter if they were vtubers. It does not matter if nobody mentions who they are now. It does not matter if they, for example, use her PL to tweet while still being in Myth, it is not allowed.
>HoloENs outside of Myth are risky, but not impossible. Just extremely risky.
>for non-HoloENs, what matters is the size of the chuuba's corpo, if they are actively using it, and if they are graduating/on the way out/or people are speculating before a debut happens

>>66544161
>for non-HoloENs, what matters is the size of the chuuba's corpo
Not exactly, you can't say the word "wontons".

>>66544259
Size DOES matter because jannies need to be aware of who it is to remove it. That one is known. And Phase is also big enough for it to be known as well. But this also falls into "she doesn't use that account anymore" issue.

>>66544161
Rules are as follows
>Mori is a ban on site
>The rest of Myth is a warning at least
>Pippa is a ban on site
>The rest don’t matter

>>66544161
Also, and perhaps the most important in practice, do they get reported. Desu I kinda think that's why Myth are untouchable, you'll find some kind of mythfag who cares everywhere on the board to report offending posts, decreasingly likely to have that for smaller chuubas. That's why /hirys/ freely chats about Irys' PL, the irystocrats just don't report the posts.

>>66544728
If you think the nijikeks haven't been reporting this thread for weeks now I have a bridge to sell you

>>66545278
Dokibird is a vtuber, there's no reason to delete the thread. so is gura's PL yeah that's where the exception comes in.
and Pomu's I guess, according to that guy earlier, though I've seen Mint get discussed a bunch.

>>66513466
she's cuter as doki so it's fine

>>66547526
Doki should dye her hair purple. Purple is a better color anyway.

Last bump of the night.

Zaionist bump

why not

Forgot how open her eyes were.

doki, wake up

>no twitter, no apex activity
Doki is probably sleeping. Good. All VTubers should get plenty of rest!

>>66557651
Technically there was some very minimal Twitter activity today, a few likes and I think a follow.

>>66530710
>>66530577
>>66529909
Not only that, there's no guarantee it will remain stable.

Did anybody else notice that Doki seems to have recently unprivated a bunch of her old videos on her youtube channel?
https://www.youtube.com/@Dokibird/videos
Not sure when it happened, but I'm pretty sure they weren't there a day or two ago when I last checked.

>>66560883
I didn't look that closely when I checked a couple weeks ago, but it looks the same to me. It's possible there's an extra 5-10 videos.

>>66560883
I've checked her out before, def don't remember many streams besides the tomato farm and her graduation stream.

>>66560883
Yes, she unprivated a lot of videos. Good Find. it was in the past few days

>>66560883
This basically means she's out of Kurosanji right?

>>66561466
Most of us have been sure of that for a long time, personally I expected it since Christmas.

>>66560883
All the videogame vods are new.

>>66544161
>NTA, but other than jannies and mods being inconsistent
Gura it makes sense, because people LITERALLY doxxed her family and started posting pictures of her fucking house and cars outside of it, making her an automatic "get rid of this shit." With Pomu, it's literally CP, another common sense thing. Then you have situations like Mel Nekomata where people jumpscare you with her nudes and jannies do fuck all cuz she's a nobody. So fun thread or no, chances are you have someone report as dox and they already jump to just get rid of it.
>>66560883
She did this ages ago, anon.
>>66561466
No, it means she's helping out people who didn't archive her (most people didn't care about her) so it's a smart move with the increased eyes on her as she'll get her channel (Re)monetized.

>>66520617
>I'm feeling VShojo is most likely because it's an unbelievable stroke of luck for them that both Pomu and Doki would become free agents at roughly the same time.
With yesterday's hints in mind, I'm becoming more convinced of this.
I think originally the plan was for Pomu to graduate and NotDoki to follow shortly after. The MV fiasco may have accelerated the timeline but only by a couple month, I would not be surprised to see them debut together at Anime Expo, and they may not be the only ones. It's also possible the new member debuts will be staggered, there's precedent for both.
It's shitty she had to leave this way, fuck Nijisanji. The only real question that remains in my mind are whether there'll be months of prolonged silence or if we'll see indie activities soon, signs are pointing towards the latter. Also hope we get a better explanation of what went down with the cover but I doubt the full story will get out of NDA for at least a few years.

>>66565012
>Then you have situations like Mel Nekomata where people jumpscare you with her nudes
Disgusting
Where?

>>66565012
i wish death upon all "drawings are children" fags. Specially Australians.

>>66565694
>"drawings are children" fags
He's not talking about Pomu, anon. He's talking about "Pomu".

>>66565694
It’s not a drawing

>>66565939
That wasn't her. Also NTA but he might have meant the people who doxxed Gura were mad at "pedobaiting".

>>66565976
>That wasn't her.
Jannies sure don't agree with you

>>66566000
Nice trips but that means fuck-all. If you started posting nudes of some random woman and saying it's Pekora you'd catch a ban too, and probably not a short one.

>>66566068
He means you can’t even talk about it because the jannies don’t want people to go looking for them. I’m surprised we haven’t been nuked yet.

The last straw for her graduation is streamlab as long as its still open theres still a chance she will comeback

>>66566260
Yugo's streamlabs were open until the very day of the announcement so it is not a good indicator.

>>66566885
Mika's streamlabs are still up (as is her Twitch channel lmao) and she graduated on 28th. Can't trust the interns to do the job properly.

>>66567021 (me)
Ah no they finally closed the former. But I remember it being up a few days ago.

>>66518262
anyone with even a crumb of self wroth should be abandoning that ship, so not surprised

Hadn't checked out her twitter since the hospital post, what the hell was up with that New Year's voice post?
https://www.reddit.com/r/VirtualYoutubers/s/OG9EnUdCfr

>>66569409
She wanted to be with us for new years but couldn't. So, she did the next best thing. I know I appreciated it very much.

>>66565012
>house and car pics
Wait it got THAT bad? Jesus no wonder Gura chilled on her fans and probably had a corrosive effect over time. Worst I had heard is someone called her uncle or something.

>>66565290
>NDA this, sponsor connections that
Bums me out sometimes that it will take literal decades, IF EVER, for all the dirty laundry in vtubing to be aired out in full public view like E True Hollywood Stories
Probably also will never get the dirt from JP Vtubers at all either since their culture is all about that damn shame and silence bullshit

She's done with apex

>>66569409
nice to know that outside of official/quasi-official Niji circlejerk subreddits no one believes Anycolor's crap

>>66565694
>t. aroused by depictions of children

>>66570517
AGE OF CONSENT, NOT SHAPE OF CONSENT. Petite adults deserve sex too.

>>66565012
>>66569653
This was all thanks to Mori’s sister btw. Opsec is no joke.

I sure hope that all of the extra attention to her twitter hasn't spooked her off of communicating there. Dumb ass vtweeters.

>>66571670
She's skipped days and made zero tweets before. She should definitely block fl*ps** though, leeching dramawhore.

>>66565012
>Mel Nekomata
That's horrible. Where were they posted so I can report it

>>66569870
If things really start going pear-shaped at Niji, I bet you we start getting leaks. NDAs aren't bulletproof, burn enough people and someone like Khyo will get a Discord message late in the night.

>>66571824
Seconded. This kind of stuff cannot stand.

>>66571775
Blocking vtweeters would probably just give them more ammo

>>66571967
It's not even NDAs, but also the fact that multiple talents have reasons to be upset at the same time. If it was just one person, it would be easy to track leaks.

>>66571967
We already saw a few leaks throughout the course of this year. We saw artwork of what Krisis looked like minus one member, someone accurately predicted the time and date of Nina's graduation, there was the shitstorm that was the 2% leaks, we even had one member anonymously vent out their issues in a Polygon article. It's clear that there's people in the EN branch pissed off enough and there's relatively quite a few of them that could make Anycolor's bad situation worse.

>>66566260
At this point with how Selen isn't even appearing in Anime Impulse despite every other member being involved, I just don't see her coming back.

>>66571670
Dramafags and vtweeters (especially flipsies retarded ass) are the ones she needs to worry about. A lot are just Dragoons and holofags flooding to her and she's (Rightfully) trying to farm money off them.

>>66572598
>At this point with how Selen isn't even appearing in Anime Impulse
>Catalogfag forgets she was hospitalized and home recovering now
???

>>66572797
Yeah dude. She can do 10-hour Apex marathons but can't appear at the Feet and Greet. You must be baiting, even the most delusional dragoons have realized how over it is.

>>66572797
If this is bait then you've got me good. It's very easy for her to reappear at the meet and greet since she's recovered enough to do commissions.
Plus the Anycolor notice on Twitter didn't even insinuate that it was due to health concerns, they pretty much said
>Due to unforeseen circumstances we're PROUD to announce that we are not letting Selen appear in Anime Expo! No refunds.

>>66572931
Oh you're a burger, I forget you guys are worse than a 3rd world country when it comes to treating people like people. In most parts of the world if you're hospitalized or ever end up under observation for more than a day you will be pulled out of work til your follow up is cleared. AI clashes with that timing. Whether she graduates or not is to be seen but that's unrelated to this kind of situation.

>>66573230
Holy retardation. I wouldn't wish you even on /HAHA/, >>>/r/nijisanji

>>66573309
>No response
I accept your concession.

>>66573230
>vtubing
>work
Lmao, if she can grind Apex she can stream, imagine being this retarded.

I'm watching her vod of among the sleep. I'm deeply amused by her being jealous of the baby's stuff.

DOKI LOVE

>>66571632
Wait this sound separate from the incident I’m referring to. Gura’s uncle got called about a month or two after her debut in late 2020. Did she get doxxed in full on 2 separate occasions?

>>66577654
Yes

>>66572931
Someone's never recovered from a hospital visit apparently. The fuck you expect her to do? lay still until she's ready to work again? Get the fuck out of here.

Bait used to be believable.

yup!

ignore the ndf

>>66569409
you guys got a source on the Filian statements here? https://www.reddit.com/r/VirtualYoutubers/comments/193w478/comment/khcm9k5/

>>66579363
It was on filian's stream the Wednesday before the collab, people posted about it in /HAHA/, donno if a timestamp ever turned up.

>>66579471
There's usually an autistic Filian dragoon there giving a timestamp. Maybe they forgot this time because of the bad news. If someone can find it, it's extremely damning evidence that Selen got locked out of her social medias. I recommend you autists to go find it because these things help push Kurosanji being Kurosanji

>>66579563
This is an anonymous imageboard, we aren't pushing anything. This is just a thread to discuss Dokibird.

even if she actually comes back I'm not using /haha/, they legit seem subverted by niji interns

>>66579824
stop trying to force a fanbase war within the same fanbase kek, half the IPs in either general are in both.

>>66579959
Yup.

>>66580612
tabs...

>>66579363
https://www.twitch.tv/filian/v/2021890993?sr=a&t=10880s

Does anyone know if it's expensive to, say, comission the artist for her purple 3d models to swap textures and turn them into yellow models? They wouldn't have to make a whole new mesh and rig, right?

>>66582811
If you only wanted to change the color and nothing more then it'd probably be dirt cheap and take like 20 minutes provided they're willing to actually do it. But that's a big if and changing colors alone would look weird

>>66560883
Wayback machine had 9 videos on april 13, 2023 and now her channel says 16. So sometime in the last year she made 7 more videos public.

>>66583455
It's easy to tell which videos are the new ones since they only have a few hundred views, while her other videos have thousands.

>>66583928
That's sweet actually. She's giving bark knights some new (to them, most likely) content if they already watched the rest.

>>66584008
Also when you consider that three of the videos have below a hundred views, and she had a ton of new people looking at her channel two weeks ago. Some of those videos were likely made public in the past week or even the last couple of days. This indicates that she's continuing to ramp up her activity on Doki.

>>66572598
anon almost all of the things you said were literally mysta. There's a reason this shit stopped. but you are right, non-jp people leak more shit, they are less professional

>>66584715
I'm glad we've got a screenshot of it as soon as it was discovered. It will allows for some particularly esoteric numberfagging, we'll get to see how many people are willing to watch 3-year-old vods from a graduated chuuba.

>>66583455
I'm more interested in that subscriber incline.

>>66585878
I genuinely hope she goes full Mikeneko and starts shilling the channel the day the announcement drops, assuming she intends to use it. Miguel has a godlike sub count from tourists flooding in, I bet Doki could earn her first silver play button kek.

>>66582157
oh.... it's actually real...

>>66488873
Doubtful, she clearly put a lot of heart into it and wanted to make a public goodbye for both her coworkers and fans.

>>66583455
if true, the writing is on the wall. Scary stuff, it should never have to come to this but it is happening

>>66560883
>>66583455
oh my fucking god, I actually checked the waybackmachine using that anon's link. Yeah you guys might be onto something...

Dokibird I know you are /HERE/, you should play the hit game Void Stranger to demonstrate your superior bird brain

Did Doki tip us off or was it really anon?

birb

>>66520617
>oosening some of the JP autism like allowing Doki to continue keeping her identity
Vspo JP did it twice already, with Met and Karubi, so I am still keeping fingers crossed for her joiing EN.

>>66590655
Why? It stresses her out too much to do serious esports stuff.

>>66590655
>I am still keeping fingers crossed for her joiing EN.
I, too, have my fingers crossed for Dokibird JOI.

>>66583455
I got the Dec 28 snapshot to work in Firefox. It also shows 9 videos. So it's been in the past two weeks.

>>66579959
I'm so sick of the infighting, it's so childish.

>>66585541
>literally mysta
>he doesn't know that both leak culprits are in holostars en
ok

>>66592848
>"in"fighting
It's not a fun pill to swallow, but there's a solid fraction of this board (5-25% I'd say) who don't really love any vtubers and are only here to shit on fans and chuubas and sow misery for their entertainment.

>>66592848
The infighting is basically over, that post is from one baiter, his bait sucks and everyone laughs at it.

>>66584008
Is she able to earn money if suspended? Could also be a way of supporting herself.

>>66595639
Zaion was terminated for selling PL merch (even though she didn't), so don't be surprised to see that bullet point if Selen leaves

>>66593088
funny how the leaks stopped after mysta graduated

>>66596031
no she did not.

>>66595639
She doesn't seem concerned with money right now, she told us not to donate to her and donate to charity instead.

>>66595639
>>66596031
it is complicated because they are not allowed to do vtuber activities while in Nijisanji. Does producing art as Doki and making money from it count as vtuber activities? I do not think so but it depends purely on what side of the bed management woke up that day.

yeah she's nothing without the pure sex dragon model, should've just listened to management
dumb bitch

>>66596704
>it is complicated because they are not allowed to do vtuber activities while in Nijisanji
Hana...

>>66596890
Hana is incredibly resilient to still stream at Nijisanji despite all the shit she witnessed or endured over the past year.

>>66596890
>>66598165
I kinda wish we never discovered her alt, cause now she may never do more.

Last bump of the night.

>>66598165
she loves being in nijisanji and it always has been part time to her. And last year was probably the best for her she got merch and focus on release.

>>66596184
Funny how the leaks stopped after the actual insider got silent suspended and pretended that he went to the mountains.

>>66598264
I will never forgive brown vt memes for this

Checking out the Petra rumors for myself: 1:28:00 of this membership stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nif2kdshKY
Bullet points:
>Debated on whether or not she wanted to commission a second year membership badge in 2023
>Doesn’t think she’s suited for streaming, prefers working in the background
>Can’t give staff a concrete answer on how long she’ll stick around. Her only plan is to stick around for as long as she can.
>It’s partly some of NijiEN’s hard work that she’s staying for now.
Snooped through the archive and found that she got her second membership badge in August 2023. This lines up with when Pomu decided to graduate.
Second anniversary of her membership is in the end of September 2023, so it also lines up with Mysta and Nina's graduation timeline.

its over

>>66605494
congrats to showing how out of touch you are with petra faggot, everything she said in that stream you are misinterpreting.

>>66605494
petra has nothing to do with this thread schizo

>>66609531
trying to piece together a timeline of other people's issues internally

nijicope

>>66609733
There's no issues in there. You are a faggot misinterpreting every single word of hers including acting as if she wasn't talking about her very first year and how she never thought of herself as a good streamer. you arent a pentomo you faggot, you lack complete context of her streams.

>>66592202
well at least we know the account is opening back up for a bit. Sounds like at least there's a landing pad for her so I'm glad. Guess you guys will have to wait until after the weekend about what's up

>>66612642
I'm not expecting any real news until after Pomu graduates, if not next months. Just gonna be dribs and drabs from here on out.

>>66612894
The company can't do a lot of things right but not letting bad news pile up and overlap is one thing they can. I've got almost zero odds on her actually staying after all this, but I don't expect to hear any news about either a termination or a graduation announcement until after Pomu's unless something extreme happens.

FRESH BREAD
>>66613263
>>66613263
>>66613263

>>66613269
Right. Any news we get is likely to be on the Doki side, best we're going hear officially is someone mentioning her on stream and they're not going to leak live. Maybe a streamlabs closure but as somebody pointed out they often don't even do that promptly.