/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Subs in general are way down, just look at Advent compared to Myth. Honestly they're doing fine, no one expected them to be bigger than main branch gens.

They already reason they don't have the hololive branding is because of Raden.

There's nothing wrong with ReGLOSS unless you're anal over them not having big subs. They all are respectable members, and I think they'll establish themselves in hololive proper come next year.

>>66453203
>They already reason they don't have the hololive branding is because of Raden.
Naruhodo...

Woah, what caused Ao to jump 15k ahead of Ririka? They were tied at the hip for a long, long time.

>>66453416
Unironically her Mario Kart performance

>>66453416
Ririka's unicorn stunt didn't pay off

>>66453416
VCR, actual male collaber

>>66453093
Honestly I didn't even know of their existance until like a couple months after they debuted. So maybe that's something to consider.

>>66453163
>Advent compared to myth
You mean advent compared to gura? Because they are doing about Kiara to Ame level

>>66453225
Banchou cute!

>>66454470
And by that you mean you don’t watch hololive. They were on the twitter, they were on the main channel, brought up by en, multiple collabs all over the catalog for threadreaders like you but you didn’t hear about them

>>66453093
They are not ugly and foul smelling enough.

>>66453416
Its more Ririka imploding her potential fanbase over Ao doing anything special

>>66454563
Read nigga, I was talking about subs.

>>66453093
They are the most culled gen ever
>>66454405
>>66454443
They were both on VCR retard

kill yourself numberchimp

>>66454795
You are inventing a imaginary metric for success only you care about
Fuck off to /#/ and stay there

>>66453416
Finally realizing Ao is a cute pon instead of an ikemen

>>66454855
It's not an arbitrary metric. The talents care about it, fans care about it, industry people care about it, Cover cares about it more than CCV and rewards members with gifts for reaching subs milestones. Just shut up if the topic is outside your knowledge.

>>66454953
It's called coping. They are coping.

>>66453093
My guess is that it was the same reason why uproar flopped(way harder than it would), they are promoted as a entirely new branch outside of holoJP (starsJP on uproars case), so maybe not having the "holo" in the name didn't attracted the box attention at the start, they will probably have more growth the more they interact with other holos

Now that the dust has settled; why is OP a fag? Damn fool already posting low quality threads

>>66454685
I heard about everyone else but them, I only have one oshi. I don't know what else to tell you.

>>66453093
They didnt completely flop. Contrary to the managements intention like homocollab push, streamer/eceleb collab push, etc, only Holo JP core fans watch them. So homocollabers are becoming less popular than the others there since the core fans dont like it.

CCV-wise they arent so different from Holox. They just failed to get non Holo JP viewers or casual Holo JP viewers like those who only watch popular Holo JP members. Its funny and sad that everything the management does is completely counterproductive.

>>66455484
Ao is the only person who waltzed into like a few homo collabs and made them work. Its the reverse of Matsuri where she spent like a full hour just bullying the shit out of Aruran.

>>66453416
Ririka made fun of her unicorns

>>66455659
proof next thread?

>>66453416
her mario kart performance, and Marine taking a liking to Ao and collabing with her

Kanade is great

>>66454874
I don't know where the ball was dropped on Ao's marketing because they literally included in her written profile before she even debuted that her character wasn't actually supposed to be cool girl, but was supposed to be pon girl trying to act cool but everyone acts like it was a huge surprise when the bike karaoke happened.

>>66453416
She's being helped by all the top talent. She'll become the new Lui, who was helped in the same way.

>>66453416
Because she's now a funny and unique comedian with bizarre yet humorous reactions and quality boke. Her initial persona was an ikemen boyish woman but she ditched it herself and now shows her true comedy power on every collab stream. Nobody sees her as a cool ikemen character anymore.

>>66454812
Ririka was full on GFE pandering, both in her current and PL. On top of that, she literally can't interact with men on stream in a way that won't offend gachi.
Ao handled it far better.

>>66453416
>>66454094
>>66453416
>>66453416
Retards, it was Ao-kun VCR arc with the pizza homo and gang revealed her potential both as a comedian and as great collab partner. You can follow the stats to see how she started to incline starting from that event

>>66453093
I don't know but this is Kanade's favorite snack

>>66457363
why did you reply to the same guy 3 times

>>66456425
This happened weeks ago retard, keep up

>>66457461
Cause I'm retarded

>>66453093
>female scaredy cat who still lives with mom
>rare case of Korean weeb, also she's a spy
>no clue
>coke'd up art hoe with a quirky voice
>ineligible autistic baby voices (she sound like a mumble rapper)
They "flopped" because no marketing budget was spent on promoting them. Also I have no clue wtf dev_is is even supposed to be.

>>66453416
Ao
>good VCR session
>New zako queen
>saved by big holos such as Subaru and Marine
Ririka
>Was going to incline hard with her lunch / cooking stream (iirc shilled by YouTube or yahoo news jp)
>Squandered it all by making fun of unicorn, saying that she can interact with them e celeb but will do ASMR and unicorn will flock back to her
>Got eye opening moment during Mio's tarot reading (basically Mio giving her advice that she's way too easy influenced by her surrounding (read her manager) and should be wiser with her content and fans demand))

>>66453093
>I thought Hololive had a big female audience.
Bigger than one would expect but absolutely not compared to their male audience either in terms of viewership or financial contributions. Never let any femoid tell you "hololive has a big female viewership". They've literally been trying to appropriate vtubing's success and existence for themselves when it was men who made the hobby and made it what it is today. Don't fall into their traps

>>66457999
>no marketing budget was spent on promoting them
But everyone here sweared up and down that they were shilled endlessly and received all the marketing budget while Advent got nothing.

>>66453163
Meanwhile Marine just passed Kizuna AI as the most subbed JP vtuber ever.

>>66453203
fuck you Ayame

>>66453093
Raden is legit the best designed character in all of hololive, like a hot cruella de ville, like a Victorian gothic look telling us about history

>>66453203
IESLB

>>66453093
>gook
>dead last
good gen

>>66453093
The whole marketing was basically "this is not for you, hololive fan, but check it anyway!". Many people did, the ones who weren't bothered by that fact stayed. Most of us took the hint and did not. And I have yet to see a reason to change that.

>>66453093
>Kanade least subbed
Wtf happened??? Do japs really fucking hate koreans this much?

>>66455659
This is the actual answer. Paraphrasing, she went "hurr durr I'll do a asmr apology later(after homo collab) and they'll come back". Even if it is true, for the worst gachis out there, this was a bucket of cold water for the less deranged ones.

>>66454855
Whoever made this thread was asking about subs. It's in the OP

>>66453093
what we are witnessing is trickle down economics in action for Vtubing. viewers from established popular Vtubers aren't trickling down to newer generations

>>66453093
So what's the difference between this and gen 7 again? They're literally just the same thing.

>>66462813
more music, homocolabs and no lore bulshit

This thread sucks

>>66453093
weird marketing

>>66453093
That's honestly not bad compared to the new HomoEN gen. Bitches can't even break 100k subs.

>>66462813
I think Cover is paying for all of their music work rather than the talents paying for it themselves. There's no other way they could have afforded to make that Stone Ocean cover or the My Dearest cover with high quality MVs that just released today.

They are a music unit first and streamers second.

>>66453416
Ririka was actually not unicorn friendly.

>>66453093
Because Hololive made it a point that they're not part of Hololive... for some reason.

>>66467561
DEV_IS is a part of Hololive as much as HoloJP, HoloID and HoloEN (its sister branches).

>>66453416
homo collabo, ao is kawaisou so she has charm points over ririka who's vagina comes across as loose sleeve of wizard like choco but lacks the sad girl appeal

>>66453093
Nah they seem to be doing well enough for me.
On the other hand,

>>66458420
Mio's "tarot reading" advice seems way to specific.

>>66454855
retard

Their designs aren't sexy/cute enough (Ririka's is actually, but she fucked herself in other ways). If you think that's not as important as personality or work ethic, you're wrong.

>>66453203
Not now KFPag

>>66457237
That's not completely true. Coming onto stage acting as a cool ikeman before she completely melts into a puddle the moment any pressure is put onto her is part of the act.

>>66470693
Yeah, it's pretty much directed advices. It's a common trick "fortune tellers" use.

>>66470478
That's normal stars number though

>>66455659
Fucking based, unicucks should rope.

>>66458420
*rapes and beheads you*

>>66453093
Male collabs

>>66453093
aren't they supposed to be a singing group instead of streamers?

>>66472158
This. Playing as Ikemen and failing is comedy goldmine. I wonder cute pon Ikemen is the plan from start. I watched Ao debut stream and forgot turn on mic pon, feels a bit staged in my view.

>>66453093
Bad marketing.
They were not marketed as hololive so there was no hype.

I'm what they would call a hololive bootlicker. I'm the normalest fag of all. And even I never really bothered about ReGloss since they sound like something else and not hololive. I'll add hype if they ever release a new holo gen, but not whatever this is

>>66478470
Yes, but retards /here/ will only judge their success by streamer metrics while ignoring the high quality music coming from all of them.

>>66453093
The pandemic is over and people have real jobs to take up their time.

>>66453163
The typical beggar cope.

>>66453093
I don't understand why Cover keeps making these side projects since all of them have consistently been folded into their respective branches.
>INNK Music (Folded, merged with the rest of JP)
>Gamers (Started off as a dedicated gaming streamer sub-group, ended up being directed into idol activities with the rest of JP)
>Project Hope (Only ever one member, shut down and shuffled into Promise)
I have to assume dev_is is going to go the same direction unless Cover actually commits to actually marketing them.

>>66453093
They should all pivot to EOP pandering.

>>66484700
They just like fucking around with silly side projects that don’t risk the hololive brand

>>66484964
Yeah, I suppose it makes sense to just experiment and see what happens since it probably doesn't cost many more resources than a regular generation. If it doesn't meet Cover's expectations, they can just be rolled in with the rest of JP with little issue.

>>66453093
Its a normie branch that doesn't appeal to normies, also for some fucking reason Ao is there and she is neant to appeal to women. Who thought that was a good idea, how many "normie" lesbians that like vtubing can there even be.

>>66485855
Meant to appeal to straight women who like cool girls

>>66486049
"Cool girls" dont dress and act like failed butch lesbians.

>>66462389
There seems to be a serious misunderstanding in the wider vtuber community that every "unicorn" is a simp/gahcikoi but that couldn't be further from the truth and it's just the aforementioned group that let's the girls get away with being cunt. The rest have no qualms about dropping them on the spot and never watching them again.

>>66457604
Fair enough, but Pizza arc is lit. Lots of love for tooki.

>>66486049
>cool girls
On what planet is dressing like a man cool for women? If women thought that was cool, more of then would probably do jt

>>66492477
https://twitter.com/nise_shi/status/1611027146809683968?lang=en

>>66492527
Yumejos are basically mentally ill femcels. Try to go outside and ask any, normal woman if they find that character attractive.

>>66495614
It was a mainstream big poll you fuckin retard

>>66495730
There is no such thing. No healthy, well-adjusted woman is going to femsimp over pokemon characters and the Japanese literally refers to yumejos.
I dare you to leave the shithole you call home for a second, try to get your autistic ass to actually interact with real, normal women for once, tell them about this female character, show them how she looks and ask them if they find her attractive.
I promise you it will be an eye-opening experience.

>>66495852
>real, normal women
We're talking about weeb women into anime because obvs that's the target audience fuck face

>>66453093
I think it's kind of retarded that they did the whole "DEV_IS is a new thing" and "Regloss isn't gen 7 (but we put a 7 in their logo anyway hehe)"

All that did was kneecap them from the start by killing hype for a new generation. My prediction is that it's going to go the way of INNK Music or Project Hope and is going to be shut down, and Regloss will be officially folded into JP as JP7, which they already are.

>>66495882
The guy you replied to was talking about normal people in general and even within the general female weeb circle the "handsome woman" archetype is a niche.

>>66496006
A niche that's able to win a big poll among japanese otaku women

>>66495888
They aren't hololive tho and they never will be. They are targeted at a completely different audience and they would never be accepted as gen 7.

>>66453093
>>66453093
>ao
generally boring, looks like a man, just now started finding her niche
>kanade
funny, retarded, annoying to women, jsl
>ririka
hard working, gfe turned whore, koyo but bad, doubled down on yab
>raden
funny, entertaining, failure as a human being in a bad way
>hajime
cute, brat, babyspeak, migo but blonde
tl;dr their niche is either filled already by an established holo, or they just didn't belong in hololive in the first place

>>66496443
Raden is like no other holo

>>66496637
Raden is like Pekora but smokes

>>66496759
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cEbDvgwDbA&t=0s&ab_channel=RadenCh.%E5%84%92%E7%83%8F%E9%A2%A8%E4%BA%AD%E3%82%89%E3%81%A7%E3%82%93%E2%80%90ReGLOSS
Remind me when Pekora did a 30 min long art history overview to their viewers

>>66453416
>does GFE
>collabs with homo and anti-holo nijiEN
>laughs at fans who got upset over it
>back to GFE like nothing happened
Gee I wonder why

>>66496835
That link gave me AIDs

>>66496835
Won't open that shit bro

>>66497878
>oh no scary youtube link

>>66457461
HAHAHA

>>66470478
>kekgloss has to be compared to homos to be viewed in a positive light
oh no no no

>>66498466
>>66470478
/#/nigs may get the rope, but slobbering retards that treat subs as a meaningful metric should get the bronze fucking bull.

>>66470478
Your cock obsession is disgusting go back to Niji for that

>>66498631

>>66498631
see >>66454953

>>66498631
>subs as a meaningful metric
>Always on their quarterly report
>Their subs were plastered everywhere during Hololive fes
Cover must be retarded then

>>66453093
Did you really miss the biggest sub cull in hololive history or are you that new?
Anyway if you add the missing 150k they sohuld have they are doing fine.

>>66499131
Council got hit way worse newbro

>>66499131
holy cope

>>66499418
Average CCV is the cope metric.

>>66499418
>4/4 advent channel
>2/5 reflop

>>66500895
eww what happened to kson?