/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>66455471
Sounds like the perfect opportunity to grow.

>>66455471
Advent are game changers for Hololive. They will be the ones that make them famous worldwide. Especially Fuwamoco.

>>66455471
They'll become their own unique gem, fueled by desire in a stagnating industry full of wannabes.

>>66455471
FWMC are killing it, Bijou is killing it, Rissa, after her break, is ramping it up and Shiori, based on her new years resolution, who she started to idolize and personal growth last year, is entering an unironic idol arc. Future is looking bright for advent.

>>66456142
It's actually a dying industry outside HoloEN and debatably Phase Connect.

but I'm actually scared at the same time, without the support of the chuubas who left a big impression before them, they might miss the chance to make it big

imagine being able to join Hololive, and shortly after debut, you realize your senpais don't give a fuck about you and you won't ever get the chance to collab with the most iconic vtuber because she's tired or depressed or something. I know they didn't join Holo for the solo reason to talk to Mumei or Gura or Ame, but that's a great motivation too

>>66455471
can i get a tldr?

>>66456757
Who cares? Their time is over and done with. This is Advent's time to shine and they can singlehandedly carry Hololive's need for global relevance in a way that Myth or Council never could.

>>66456369
Niji JP is doing pretty well

JP senpai love fuwamoco
They won't stop gushing about them

>>66456215
Agreed with everything but nerissa. Her lesbian vacation might kill the momentum of the holiday season incline she had going for a bit there

>>66455471
>They didn't have everything handed to them
Ok I laughed

They had management support from the start unlike Myth and Promise. This gen was born with a silver spoon in their mouths, they have to be a succes as a minimum otherwise they would be the laughing stock of vtubers

>>66456104
>Advent are game changers for Hololive
No they aren't. They're doing the same shit everyone else is doing except for FWMC just because they have the twin dynamic.

Did the fluffballs carry Advent?

>>66459842
They really didn't; Had they debuted in the myth era they'd have about 300K more subs each (500K if they debuted INSTEAD of Myth).

>>66460256
>Management support from the beggining
>Given a debut budget
>Gen orisong
>Merch inmediately after debut
Tell me how I know you're an advent newfag without telling me you're an advent newfag. Advent were given everything on a silver plate lmao

>>66460088
Shiori is very different from any other HoloEn I know

>>66460256
>Had they debuted in the myth era
Most of them would have graduated by now

>>66460484
Yeah she wants you to respect her collab choices

>>66460559
Yes I respect her choice to not collab with anyone.

Holo 3rd gens are always the best gens

>>66460559
We'll torch that bridge when we get there.

>>66460617
This fucking guy...

is 10000% right i kneel

>>66460559
You cannot still be seething about that...

>>66461150
It's unironically a Phasefag anon
>>66455175

>>66456215
>Shiori is entering an unironic idol arc
seriously?

>>66455471
Idk
Hololive seems to have luck with their 3s
>sankisei is what catapulted Hololive to stardom
>H3ro is the best ID gen easily
>Advent seems to share the passion for individual growth Myth did along with the unity of Council; Biboo and the BauBaus are universally loved
Advent will reignite the love people had for early HoloEN

>>66465230
I'm tired of the narrative that Myth never had unity. The biggest reason I'm depressed about Myth is specifically how far they've grown apart since their first year.

>>66465589
Myth never had unity.
Kiara tries too hard
Mori/Ina at best say some quippy jokes, most of the time are just there
Gura got along with Ame but has always been a big autist
Ame is just really bitter

>>66464981
Yeah, I didn't expect it either but she's semi-idolized Subaru, likes Holo culture after she actually started learning about it (incl buying a lot of merch from JP and EN) and made it her new years resolution to do more covers and release songs this year. Also doing JP reps and trying to talk with her EN and JP senpais more, she's mentioned already talking to Shuba and Korone for a little while and Haachama mentioned that she and Shiori are friends during her HoloEN review.

>>66460466
People also forget that Myth basically debuted at the cusp of the Permissions paradigm after Capcom struck Mio in August.
Along with the limited support they had, the girls had to play very fast and loose with the changing company climate of the time, compared to the modern day where everyone understands that "perms" are a thing. That's not to even mention the fucking China debacle that would soon follow IN THEIR FIRST ACTUAL YEAR OF ACTIVITY.

Advent has been great in adapting to Hololive, but people give too little credit to how Myth's blend of personalities allowed them to whether the shitstorm that had been thrown at the company back in the day when nobody knew how shit was going to pan out.

>>66466682
Yeah Myth were thrown out there to survive on their own with no support. Advent babies were lucky to debut in an already established branch, again, thanks to Myth.

>>66455471
They're fine, but yes Hololive peaked in 2020/2021.

>>66466682
I think the fact that the Myth girls are a bunch of fucking spergs made them withstand all that shit in the beginning with no graduations.

Myth will forever be remembered as the golden legendary generation that made vtubing in the west plausible, nothing is changing that, no matter how lazy some of them get, while Promise, Advent and upcoming gens will be remembered as the good gens that came after Myth.

>>66456104
Holy fuck you adventroon faggots are delusional. Hololive already has reaches worldwide and it's not because of fucking advent

They do lean a little too much into the "oh man we were Hololive fans!" thing. It's a great inspirational tale, but it shouldn't be your whole identity.

>>66466048
Do you know when she talked about this stuff? Not doubting, just want to watch it.

>another Advent vs HoloEN thread
why do catalogue shitters keep biting this bait

>Oh nooo it's so unjust won't someone think of the new HoloEN debuts they're so starved of attention and resources and they're going to have to bust their asses to remain relevant

>>66471479
NTA but it's scattered mentions after sportfes, like her hotpot stream, her tech talk stream and the Holoparade stream, also for her talking to Haachama you have to go to chammers stream where she talked about all EN's since she was the one to mention that she and Shiori where talking with each other. I think that sportsfes was the major turning point for her actually, since that's when her first interaction with Subaru was. As of now she owns CTW merch as well as merch from Subaru, Mori, Korone, Sora, Marine, Fubuki and ofc all of Advent. As for her wanting to sing more and do songs and covers you have to listen to her Twitter Spaces, the one immediately after her first cover released, her Christmas space and her new years space.

Personally I think Council and IRyS were dropped way too early. Myth should had at least a full year of working together as a united front rather then having Kouhai in under 9 months. After the first anniversary was when IRyS should have been introduced (if Project Hope was unchangeable.) IRyS should have had at least 3 months to integrate better in with Myth, then drop Council in the first month of 2022. It would have also greatly reduced the gap of time between Council and Advent as well. What could have been.

>>66456757
THE mumei?

>>66466682
>Ame straight up carrying the branch on her fucking back from lack of management support
>Gura being a fucking meteorite of popularity and might have caused a fucking city pop burst on her own
>Calliope Mori is beloved in Japan. Love or hate her, she has established a foothold.
>Ina IS the Idol journey
>Kiara weathered the fucking bullshit of being alone in Europe

>>66456987
>they can singlehandedly carry Hololive's need for global relevance
Myth already managed to do that

What is it with Adventcucks and wanting to take credit from the efforts of older gens? No even Promisefags were like this

>>66456104
>They will be the ones that make them famous worldwide.
Does he know?

>>66472863
Thanks anon, I'll watch those when I have some free time and there's no good streams.

>>66455471
>they always tried to include them
because they're such a flop that needs a lot of supports, not the other way around stupid nigga

Apples to oranges. The Myth vs Advent argument is completely pointless from the start because of Myth's debut timing. Nothing short of another global lockdown forcing billions of people to stay inside on their computers is ever going to give vchuubing that kind of buff ever again.
This isn't to dismiss from the amount of work the Myth girls did and all the shit they went through without the kind of support Advent enjoyed - it's simply impossible to fairly compare them. But shitfling, regardless.

>>66475734
Fuwamoco will be bigger than Gura by the end of this year (unless she decides to come back)
I'm not talking about dead subs, it's about cultural relevance, people outside the vtuber sphere will start talking about Fuwamoco very soon

>>66455471
We need EN4, now that more members are disappearing.

Advent is overqualified, you don't only have fuwamoco but biboo and nerissa too

>>66471622
pretending like any ENs ever had it as rough as the OGs; some of Sora's senpais are still out there being 3views

>>66466048
>talking to Shuba and Korone for a little while and Haachama mentioned that she and Shiori are friends during her HoloEN review
nice, I don't watch her all that much but I still have big hopes for Shiori, she's still a mystery box

they're doing great

>>66478103
As much as I absolutely love them and want them to do as well as possible, I don't think so. Their power level is simply too high, which is part of why I love them, but also part of why your average shorts/tiktok/tw@tch/tw@tter user isn't going to grasp onto them like Gura.

Hey they got a lot of attention just for debuting, they've retained a pretty good amount of it. They work pretty hard and have been almost entirely yab free. They're good chuubas

>>66472863
I checked her hotpot stream there wasn't much.
Tech talk isn't really a stream, it's a video. If she had a stream for it, I couldn't find it on her channel. And it had nothing about the other holomem.
I know haachama mentioned her so that's clear.
There was something about Subaru on the parade stream but it was just one line (https://youtu.be/nfP_WKmC1gs?t=2187).).
So idk where this rrat comes from.

>>66472863
Need more sauce please

>>66469383
Get some help /pol/