/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>66351983
CHEERS

>ENchads we won
>Posts a JP chuuba

>>66351983
>EN become unicorn friendly
in what way?

>>66351983
>Holo vs Holo
Wow, this is definitely not a falseflag from a niji/phasefag

>>66352225
No male collabs, that's really the only way anon

>JP chuubas
Actual retards

I seriously can't believe this happened
Imagine going back to 2021 and telling people
>By the time EN3 comes out, HoloEN will be fully unicorn friendly. All of EN will do regular gachikoi bait and won't interact with men meanwhile HoloJP will have e celeb collabs every week.
>Even Mori and Bae will rarely collab with anyone outside of HoloEN

It would have been absolutely unbelievable back then.

>>66352295
JPcuck spotted

>>66352366
JAP > FAGOO

>>66352311
>that's really the only way anon
No that's the cope alternative. There's another way, and it's why they're even called unicorns in the first place.

>>66352295
It's about time that you learned how
>holo vs holo
was only ever deflection posted by ENfags and now that they have the "upper hand" you're not allowed to post it anymore.
If you're stupid enough to believe that they ever liked anyone from the original hololive you're painfully oblivious.

>>66353281
Incorrect, I prefer JP and posted that all the time. Hololive unity is non-negotiable.

>>66352476
Since when was the JP community infested with beggar faggots?

>>66354394
Sadly for you ENfags do not believe in unity. It's just a meme invented by them made to seem like EN is on the same level as JP. Now that ENfags believe that EN is better "unity" is over.

>>66351983
>the same girls who have always collabed with males
>ENshits seething because they keep doing it meanwhile their whores cucked them and suddenly became "unicorn-friendly" for money
When will you understand that we don't want girls like Towa becoming unicorn-friendly? And by now Towa is now a popular Holo because she found her way being an FPS streamer/idol.
It's pathetic to see you fake unicorns watching Kronii again after she literally became Vesper's girlfriend but now she's pure and all now just because she didn't mention homos for 2 months and she was in Holosummer. Real unicorns would never watch her again after what she did but ENcucks will forgive anything

>>66354498
What part of that post was asking for a male collab? Saying that your whore is still a whore even if she hasn't talked to a homo for 2 weeks isn't begging, it's just calling her a whore.

>>66354604
>Implying ENChads watching kronii
JPkek standard are so low, holy shit
Guess JP unicorn already used to e-celeb hence become softer with male

>>66354604
what are you talking about retard, kronii doesn't interact with males anymore while towa still does

What JP's are collabing with males and who are these men?

>>66354779
Yeah ENCHADS watch Bae and Mori who are super friendly to unicorns.

It's third-world hours everyone. Nothing to see here.

>>66352311
Didn't Nerissa just collab with Zen though?

>>66354820
Every single one of them is collabing with male e-celebs like shaka and k4sen

>>66354874
Zen is a woman.

>>66354878
no they're not like miko, luna, subaru

>>66352366
>"wait, you mean 5% Mori is still around?
>"fuck this shit"

>>66354834
>Bae and mori
Stop embarrassing yourself, jpcuck
I know it suck that almost all jp sucking e-celeb fame these days and make jpkek lower their standards
But the original standard is 0 male collab (including e-celeb)
Kinda sad to see the original unicorn lowering their standard

>>66354906
LOL, yea okay. Next up will be PorcelainMaid and Cyyu

>>66354923
Who's embarrassing themselves? Your fellow ENCHAD right here >>66352366 said that Bae and Mori are unicorn friendly now.

>>66354968
That is obviously nijinigger
Who the fuck watch bae and mori in vt

>>66355004
ENCHADS watch Bae and Mori. They are unicorn friendly now because EN is the uniCHAD branch.

>>66354580
Even if they are sincere in their beliefs they're not worth paying attention to. Stop sounding like their mouthpiece, you're making them sound like they have a point when there's no shift happening and HoloJP vs HoloEN is a much smaller deal than it used to be.

>>66354909
Yes they are. Miko had men on her IRL video thing and let's not forget about her collabs from 2018.

>>66355025
>Jpkek have to pretend to be ENChads to defend their low standard
HOLY GRIM

>>66355058
>there's no shift happening
There's a shift happening in the fanbase since they are now making threads like this.

>>66352225
the homoENs seem uncomfortable collabing with the girls to the point where they completely stopped and all the fag enabling is bae and mori with JP homos and Nerissa with Zen (though at least nerissa has deniability that she knows zen is a man). The one collab Bae did with the EN homos recently the homo was mad his fans made him do it and pretty much said he would never do it again.

>>66354820
>homoshills but don't collab with e-celebs
Sora, AZKi, Suisei, Polka
>did some collabs with e-celebs
Korone, Pekora
>collab with e-celebs often
Mel, Aki, Matsuri, Fubuki, Choco, Towa, Botan, Laplus, Ririka, Ao

>>66355109
How is EN the uniCHAD branch when Mori and Bae are part of it?

>>66355120
He was mad because Bae was there?

>>66354906
>>66354874
Zen is a man. Filian clearly thinks Zen is a man

If Miko's old collabs don't count, then Mori's old collabs don't count.

>37 replies 17 posters
KEK, Nijinigger really loves samefagging and self replies

>>66355149
They aren't in my eyes
They should just join jp so they can collab eith homo like they want

>>66355212
They are part of EN and always will be. EN will never be unicorn friendly.

>>66355120
Holostars from either side seem to not want anything to do with HoloEN girls, as there's literally 0 to be gained from interacting with them even on the best of scenarios

>>66355150
He was mad that his fans kept asking him to do a collab that he didn't want want to do.

>>66355203
Op here and not nijiniggers
>Make this thread out of boredom
>Some retard actually bite my bait
>Reply when i am free to kill time
>They keep biting

>>66355075
when you reach for the 2018 crumbs you know you're dealing with bait

>>66355150
he was mad he had to do the collab at all. there is a clip I am too lazy to find and he said he only did it because he promised and because his chat was harassing him and he will never promise them anything again. When he did the original collab it was with one of the yaba daba doo fags who got into holo to try to fuck the girls. that fag got fired so the barbie fag didn't plan on doing the collab.
the whole thing was weird, bae didn't put it on her schedual, tweet about it or mention it. The fag also made sure to get a second fag so it wasn't 1 on 1. The fags are either losing fans over doing collabs with the girls or they are getting harassed by based unicorns. Either way they don't want to do it. I'm sure Bae was 100% fine doing the collab though.

>>66355341
Imagine the many headaches that come to a holostar for hololive collabs, even years after the fact!
All the harassment every which way and the conversational tightrope involved.
People don't shut up about stuff from 2018 even, as you can see itt.
Just not worth it for some of the stars.

>>66355232
yeah, IDK what retard thought there would be fan crossover and why omagatranny though getting the girls to shill the fags would get any guy to watch the fags. Like do they do zero fucking research into their audience? literally the reason the vast majority of people watch holo is because they are lonely guys who want to pretend to have a qt virgin gf. none of them were ever going to watch the fags.

reminder than nijinog baits will be more aggressive than ever now that pomu and selen are out.
they have no more good talents on their belt, the golden 20 incident caused a civil war, and the looming inevitability of absorption into the main branch is sinking in as they fall further into irrelevance.
their safe spaces are in flames. their brains are consumed by hate. they have nothing else to lose.

>>66355412
its specifically EN. They know if they want to collab with girls they could go with indies or with the IDs since no one would give a shit. like the homo ENs at this point feel its not even worth it to collab with Bae and how many unicorns can she possibly have?
really makes the 2 that got fired seem like sex pest groomers

>>66355475
True on that last part.
We may never know the specifics of how bad they truly were, or what went on behind the scenes towards managers and coworkers

>>66355475
>Flayon literally just comments on Shiori's tweet
>Gets shit for it to this day
>Flayon collabs with Rin, and Rin ends up trying to rizz him at the end
>His chat finds it humorous and no one really cares otherwise
Holofag community are becoming just as cruel and malicious as the chink fujo's everyone swore was the bane of vtuber existence

>>66355547
Agree
holokek are so toxic

>>66354906
Ror
Rumao

>>66355547
gotta thot and fag patrol. unicorns are doing good work if the guys won't let the girls fag enable

>>66355547
>Holofag community are becoming just as cruel and malicious as the chink fujo's everyone swore was the bane of vtuber existence
Why are the "unicorns" of this board so mad about the chink fujos anyways? They both literally want the same thing.

>>66355863
SEAdogs and Amerilards hate Chinese everything for different but valid reasons
Chinks in NA/EU just zerg rush and ruin everything
Chinks in SEA remind the islanders they're nothing beyond entertainment

>>66355924
Hating chinks is one thing but it was never about them being chinks, it was always about them acting unhinged in similar ways to unicorns.
Someone posts a homo thread and the reply to it would be "#cutforhex" or some screencap of a meltdown over a nijimale collabing with a girl.

>>66355285
Not obvious at all, Nijinigger

>>66355614
Why are homobeggar like this???

>>66351983
That's why JP keeps growing while EN keeps losing motivation and viewership. Most successful branch shows the correct way - total unitroon death.

>>66356189
KEK
when did redditor become so based?
link

>>66355288
How's it bait when miko did and does male collabs?

>>66356189
>>66355614
>Homobeggar janny in the thread
LOL
>>/vt/thread/66351983#p66356189

Is there a purity chart or tier list for the Hololive chuubas out there?
I want to know which ones are unicorn worthy, which ones are whores, and which ones fall in between.
If there isn’t then I’ll make one myself.

Nice non new IP bump OP
Let your shitpost thread die you schizo.

>>66356222
Based

>>66351983
fucking saved by Jap-sama, I kneel

>>66355134
>Choco, Botan
Do they even do that often? Outside of tournament stuff.

>>66355547
>two people that holofags don't care about interact
How should they react dumbass? Should they be offended for prince Rin-kun or what? Homofags are really different kind of breed of retarded.

>>66358335
Botan is literally collabing with a male eceleb right now

>>66358581
You're right, I just checked, she has a lot of VCR and Tekken streams. I just remember someone saying that she hasn't collabed with males in a while, so I took it at face value, it was before Tekken and VCR arc though.

>>66358647
tbf Botan being an fps fan was never considered unicorn friendly, more like unicorn adjacent

>>66351983
>branch vs branch autism
There are 15 girls in HoloEN and about triple the amount in HoloJP. Newsflash, faggots. You don't have to watch them all and "support the branch"
Do people not have oshis anymore? Do they only feel investment in pushing an entire branch and making that their identity? Are people unironically oshing a branch or a company now?
Most of HoloJP stays away from men and so does most of HoloEN. Just pick one or two girls that personally appeal to you and stop sperging out on /vt/ fighting your culture wars or whatever autism this is.
Well, not like anyone on this board even knows JP these days.

>>66358686
I've never really had a problem with that, I just thought she hasn't collaborated with men in a while, completely memory holing VCR stuff.

>>66358581
haitani isnt an e-celeb. hes a very highly skilled and stoic serious fighting gamer. a very famous guy for 20years

>>66355134
HIKAKIN is a real celebrity not the kind of eceleb streamers that populated the VCR GTA server, he falls under the kind of professional collabs that are okay for idols

>>66356222
>>66357709
Memes aside, what JP management is doing right is letting everyone decide for themselves. Some girls go to RP servers and have fun and find new audience there like Aki, some do e-celeb collabs to further their brand like Pekora, some avoid males like Kanata.
EN rebound from forced male shilling to hiring actual (seems like) /here/ faggot and forced male shunning. With not much real positive results.

>>66351983
feels good
bau bau
etc.

Kronii, Ame still have the stink on them. You know what they did and they're not sorry for it. Mori and Bae literally still collab with homos

>>66358715
>Do they only feel investment in pushing an entire branch and making that their identity?
ENfags clearly do. they have always been like this

>>66351983
>>66352070
>posts holoJP
lol
just lol

>>66353281
erm go back to /jp/ you hecking ken-samerino chud incel!!!

>>66355285
based tbdesu

>>66359558
Not really, OP is a faggot that doesn't understand he may have posted bait but others are just using it as an opportunity to shit on JP until it archives to use later as rrat ammo.

CCC
coping cuck cycle

>>66352311
it is tainted until the ones who collabed with males graduate or are fired
t. someone who enjoys the vcr servers and watching vspo girls

Aki, Ao and now Aruran have noticeably improved all their metrics by leaning into this VCR content and although it seems to have cut Ririkas numbers a little bit she still does well on supas.
Considering how badly they want to save the homos the whiff of real success is going to be irresistible.
Turns out the key was getting ecelebs in the mix, I guess homos are going to be a fixture in all of these RP servers going forward

>>66351983
All the ones who suck cock are already defined, unless you're a newfag you already should know that
Who the fuck give a shit about Matsuri and Laplus? Choco already told stories that are basically prostitute backstory, if she wasn't in hololive you can bet she would be selling her body
There's rotten apples on JP but they're well know and kept separate, basically they're third class citizens

>>66361279
Gamma had a spurt of fame last year because of the rust arc and now nobody knows who he is, those multiplayer servers are the perfect example of short lived success

>>66354604
They will hate this anon bc he told the trut

>>66351983
EN supremacy was never disputed
Only ESLs think otherwise
THEY want our girls but JAP MAN say NEVER AGAIN LIKE HIROSHIMA

>>66361357
How long did it take for Gamma to lose the new eyes? Aki's bump seems to have stuck even if it's smaller than when she is doing VCR stuff and now Aruran is holding onto a far larger viewership too.
If the homos keep spamming eceleb content between VCR servers (which are every couple of months) it could actually be a path to success for them. Going outside hololive worked for Roberu after all.

That being said this eceleb leeching does not feel like hololive so I hope it doesn't bleed over to EN or become a major thing in JP either.

i hate 2view homos and homocollabing but you should know a rule like holomems shouldnt collab with any kind of man will be counterproductive. some en fans seem to be so extreme they dont allow any en member to collab or stream with a man. koyori made a small sake brewery documentary video with the male owner and it was simply informative and fun but i feel like some of you wouldnt accept even good shit like that just because of the unicorn extremism.

>>66356189
Why are Homobeggar like this????

>>66361802
You’re right that I wouldn’t accept even the slightest amount of interaction with any man.
Koyori should have hired a prostitute as a middle(wo)man to ask her questions for her, instead of talking to that brewer herself.

>Been proud of your mental illness
The amount of people with lvl 3 ASD here is incredible

>>66361802
>a rule like holomems shouldnt collab with any kind of man will be counterproductive
Seems very productive to me.

>>66361683
Spamming ecelebs never leads to success unless you're part of the drama grift

>>66361802
Homobeggars and how hard EN management tried to force it when tempus came around created more extremists on the EN side. Nobody really got upset when Ina did the drawing collab for pixiv back in the day, which was a one on one collab with a guy. Professional, yes. But it was also a pretty casual chat with Ina teasing him about making him a takodachi iirc, that shit wouldn't fly nowadays (mainly on here but the talents also just don't do that kind of thing anymore either)

Tempus coming into existence made a lot of people calcify into either being obnoxious homobeggars who want holo to be like every other EN corpo OR retards who want to spin every possible male interaction no matter how minor into a cuck scenario.

It's obvious Mori still has Kronii and Ame by her leash, if Mori asks them to come with her in a homo collab they are gonna join.

It's not happening right now though. I'm actually not sure if Mori's goodwill got squashed by Magni and Vesper using her.

>>66361802
My experience with Asian fans is that they're unironically a bunch of betas who are afraid of openly voicing their opinions to the girls
EN/Westerners don't have that filter, so they have no problem calling out things that they dislike
Even that being said, I doubt most people on the EN side would care about an actual professional collab with a business owner. It's mostly that nearly all male streamers are disgusting sexpests that sours the pot for everyone

>>66352225
Advent is the unicorn friendliest gen so far.

I don't think anyone here actually watch streams.

>>66363008
I shouldn't be surprised you fundamentally misunderstood the difference between Asian and American culture but nit sure what I was expecting

>>66363178
It's a discord raid group. They're spamming poular generals with HoloEN vs HoloJP.
When this thread goes to the bottom they do a little sneaky bump and try to start a fight.

They're sliding something. Probably for giftcards again.

>>66363008
>I doubt most people on the EN side would care about an actual professional collab
pretty sure 99.9% of the EN fan base doesn't care in general
because there not mentally ill

>>66363252
I'm literally quoting my oshi (who is JP) who admits that her foreigner fans are at least easier to understand because they tend to be frank about their opinions as opposed to her Asian fans (and she's not even a Holo)
It's gotten to the point that she's completely ignorant about the actual opinions of her Japanese fans because they stay silent at all times
Asian fans tends to walk away silently if they see something they dislike, without a word, without even a fight or a struggle.

>>66362850
>retards who want to spin every possible male interaction no matter how minor into a cuck scenario.
If you want to call yourself a unichad then you have to be like that. If you're not like that then you're not a unichad.

>>66363364
>Asian fans tends to walk away silently if they see something they dislike, without a word, without even a fight or a struggle.
Seems a lot more reasonable than trying to force someone that's already thinking of collabing with a man into not doing the collab and then dreaming up these scenarios where she actually now hates men because you've convinced her to merely just not show her male interactions on stream.

What causes the cuck phenomenon? My guess is they think they have better chances of getting laid in a culture of slutty degeneracy where their own oshi bangs e-celebs on stream. Or they're just into getting cucked, idk.

>>66363922
outside of the fans of e-celebs, i really don't like how Cover is pushing the e-celeb collabs to happen more frequently.

>>66363521
Go write your fanfiction elsewhere
Telling your oshi not to do things which will 100% damage their brand/fanbase is what anyone with a moral compass would do. Your post is so full of projection, it gave me eye cancer

>>66355120
>The one collab Bae did with the EN homos recently the homo was mad his fans made him do it and pretty much said he would never do it again.
Was it the Barbie collab with Bettel and Shinri?

>>66355341
Is this Bettel?
Whatever happened to his boy-wife Magni and Vesper has truly mind-broken him to such degrees that he wishes to never see a hologirl ever again.

>>66363464
>If you want to call yourself a unichad then you have to be like that.
Nah you just have to be a dramafaggot. unicorn, unichad, they are just buzzwords at this point.
Nobody wanted homos or homocollabs back in the days before tempus showed up either but people were just more sane about it overall. Mori got some shit for inviting too much eceleb content into holo but people were not spinning every interaction into shitposting fodder like they do now (mostly by dramafags rather than actual fans of the girls "unicorn" or not)

The Gura/Matpat situation was a prime example, a dumb corpo interview like that might have been memed on a little back in the day but people would have moved on or had fun with it. Instead you had every dramafaggot painting the catalog with shitposts about it being over for chumbuds and some schizos being unironically upset enough about it they probed Mori with supachats until she said they never actually spoke to Matpat and it was all prerecorded answers being sent over.

That kind of mental illness from both the dramafags and the """unicorns""" bleeding into the talents streams never used to happen before tempus. I still see the dramafags and homobeggars as the bigger issue because they whip the tiny minority of schizos who break containment up whenever they can.

>>66364771
The chuuba goes where the money goes, simple as.

wants to chill with the homos wants to be a man. doomer anti-gfe anti unicorn
-to-
wants to hang with the girly girls wants to be more feminine. happy gfe unicorn friendly
is this the biggest 360 in hololive

>>66364771
The chuuba kneels before the schizo
We have the true power here

>>66355341
What a dumb fag, he should've just told chat it's canceled and he'll make it up some other way if he's being genuine at all.

wants to chill with the homos wants to be a man. doomer anti-gfe anti unicorn
-to-
wants to hang with the girly girls wants to be more feminine. happy gfe unicorn friendly
is this the biggest 360 in hololive

>>66364771
Most of those superchats are from delusional homobeggars who think they can get the talents to say something anti-unicorn. There were drama channels fervently wishing for holos/homos to start dating so they could attack the fans. They don't seem to even realize that they're the most mentally ill people in the community.
Other than that, there's just a lot of over-the-top tribal faggots from JP and EN fandoms who hate HoloEN just for having somewhat decent numbers.

so in other news anycolor is buying back 20 billion yen worth of stock.
Thought that was interesting

>>66364319
If your oshi is talking about how she likes Mr. Male and wants to collab with him, she is already not unicorn friendly even if you manage to make her not do the collab. You staying around makes you delusional.

>>66365984
How will this help them?

>>66355134
>Mel
>Aki
>Matsuri
>Choco
>Laplus
Why are you listing women who would never have unicorn fans?

>>66364998
Amazing what waving money in front of a whore can do

>>66355863
unicorns hate mirror, nigger.

>>66352366
The problem with JP is that since they are soo fucking huge and the market is enormous. vtuber mass collabs are a hot idea, thus VCR, male collabs, etc. You have your main girls who are definitely unicorn friendly, then you have other girls that you can enjoy freely without that same stigma who are going pure entertainment.

>>66352311
Male collabs are fine if they happen organically and not because fans beg the streamers for them to happen just to make retarded jokes about the talents dating.

>>66355419
but what if I'm a lonely guy whos also open to finding a qt virgin bf?