/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://vt.poi.cat/

Hololive sites
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://www.hololive-songs.com/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber
>https://www.nijiuta.com/

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>「DAYBREAK FRONTLINE」 - 音乃瀬奏 (cover) *new*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWexRFqs3Wg
>「名前のない怪物」 - 音乃瀬奏 (cover)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45ZfAdZuaok

>>66227825
>not okayu OP

I love Ina!

>>66227908
It's not even lewd either

This Niji civil war is pretty funny.

>>66227825

>>66227908
You could've made the OP anon, be the change you want to see

>>66227941
Based and same

>>66227825
Ogayun...

>>66227966
What civil war?

>>66227347
>person x says person y is better than them is not proof that it is true
Firstly, the word you are looking for is humility.
And second it's not humility if you said that thing more than once.
But like I said. You don't even watch her and are just coming off as a laughing stock here

>>66228051
>laughing stock
you're both retarded

>>66227825
>Not Okayu OP
You're going to trigger them.

>>66228046
>shiori with bigger tits than elira
???

>>66227908
You had 8 fucking minutes you whiny bitch.

>>66228130
heh

>>66227941
Same

>Pomu graduating
>Selen almost graduating
>the eye of the storm of todays niji's shitstorm is *drumroll*: a nick name for waves before luxiem
You can't make this shit up

>>66227966
They're still mad about "golden 20"?

Gura my love

>>66228045
Dog tits too big. This is nasty, please tell me how to avoid images like this so I know where not to go.

>>66228141
chill bitch

>>66228130
>d-diamond in the mud

>>66228130
Did they run out of retarded names and just call their new waves "New Vtuber Debut"?

>>66228162
Thank Enna, Ver and Aia for sperging out about it

>>66227212
You say that while overlooking the major problems with what they're currently doing. The dipshits are going to end up killing themselves while cheering.

How do we get FWMC to embrace their true numberfag nature and drop VNs?

>>66211120
I remember getting in a facebook argument because I said Iluna was a terrible decision and the branch was starting to have too many members which will damage everyone in the long run. Most of the replies I got were like
>It's ok because they will stream at different timeslots
>It's ok because you are not supossed to watch everyone
>It's ok because they appeal to different audiences
>It's ok because it will bring more good interactions between members
Lol

Phasechads won…

>>66228162
It's soaring for some reason, dk about you guys but I'll fan the flames.

>>66228210
Can't wait for luca and millie to give their 2 cent

>>66228204
They literally didn’t give their newest wave a gen name so they made it up themselves (TTT). KRISIS doesn’t have their own logo either

>>66227365
Hey now, it's not about nicknames. What pisses them off is the fact that you can literally (and accurately) separate NijiEN waves between "when these debuted times were good" and "when these debuted everything went to shit."

*YESTERDAY'S FINAL TALLY*

>139,332: Okayu (Hololive)
>97,080: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)
>81,990: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)
>71,185: Miko (Hololive)
>46,206: Marine (Hololive)
>43,855: Pekora (Hololive)
>41,432: Miko (Hololive)
>36,982: Miko (Hololive)
>34,921: Pekora (Hololive)
>33,474: Subaru (Hololive)
>31,745: Raden (Hololive)
>28,520: Fuwamoco (Hololive)
>27,373: Suisei (Hololive)
>25,877: Koyori (Hololive)
>23,590: Pekora (Hololive)
>22,913: Ame (Hololive)
>21,375: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>20,618: Toya (Nijisanji)
>20,359: Hajime (Hololive)
>20,263: Ange (Nijisanji)
>20,098: Subaru (Hololive)
>19,107: Suisei (Hololive)
>18,301: Noel (Hololive)
>16,569: Ina (Hololive)
>16,351: Koyori (Hololive)
>15,555: Kagami (Nijisanji)
>14,029: Calliope (Hololive)
>13,033: Fuwamoco (Hololive)
>12,867: Koyori (Hololive)
>12,713: Hoshikawa (Nijisanji)
>12,673: Nose (VSPO)
>12,233: Ririka (Hololive)
>12,108: IRyS (Hololive)
>11,147: Ruri (Nijisanji)
>10,659: Bijou (Hololive)
>10,552: Patra (Indie)
>10,448: Wen (Nijisanji)
>10,280: Meruto (Nijisanji)
>10,235: IRyS (Hololive)

>>66228210
Never even heard the term before. Must be a facebook meme in SEA or something. There's Lazusydia-only fans, Lazulight-Ethyria fans, LuxNoct fans. People who expressly like only the first 5 waves never seemed to be a thing.

Hina live

>>66228242
Slightly warn take, they're as likely to drop VNs as Shiori is to play actual games. It doesn't matter how many buff games they stream, they'll find a way to insert those VNs somewhere.

>>66228130
kek

>>66228330
>botted dogs not even top 10
pathetic

>>66228330
>botted tourney not even 100k
pathetic

>>66228150
the first two don't matter to sisters, the third isn't showing face to nijisanji which is very yab in chinese culture.

>>66228368
Well they said the term have been use for months now, so maybe from their doxsite.

>>66228377
tell me she has porn now

>>66228330
Vtubing is inclining? things... aren't grim?

>>66228204
They kept it a "secret" for some retarded reason.

Whats a golden 20

>>66228170
When did I make this post?

>>66228231
What major problem?
Just last year they
>Got rid of 3 of their worst members, Silver, Nyanners and Vei
>Got rid of menhera Nazuna
>Kson made it into a mainstream game
>IM won content creator of the year at the Game Awards
>Hit jackpot with Henya and Matara

Hey anons, could you quiet down with the "golden 20" talk? Some of our liver friends actually visit this board...

So, according to 2023, the best En streamers were
>FWMC
>Mumei
>Fauna
>Bijou
>Ina
>IRyS
And apparently all of them were in top 50 streamers.
I thinks that that's the first time 6 En streamers made it into top 50

>>66228506
niji fanfiction

>>66228467
Maybe. Never seen it in the Niji EN thread for sure. Occasionally go to the doxsite to see how sisters react to stuff but I don't read it that much I'd necessarily pick up on their terminology. It's sort of a hugbox though, they don't really shittalk people just for being post-iLuna from what I've seen. At least not on the Nina thread.

>>66228558
What metric are you using here

>>66228242
they already did

>>66228242
Anon, their entire purpose to learning Japanese was to be able to play lewd VNs.

>>66228506
>The Golden Twenties (German: Goldene Zwanziger Jahre) also known as the Happy Twenties (German: Glückliche Zwanziger Jahre), was a five-year time period within the decade of the 1920s in Germany. The era began in 1924 after the end of the hyperinflation following on World War I and ended with the Wall Street Crash of 1929.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Twenties

>>66228501
>Vtubing
Hololive*

>>66228612
Hololive is vtubing.

>>66228592
it's not voiced

>>66228558
You forgot the queen of English Vtubers though

>>66228486
Yeah

>>66228591
The top streamer list according to avg CCV one
All of them had 7K+ CCV

>>66228649 (me)
wrong pic

>>66228130
Scarle bra doko?

>>66228539
I was about to explain what they're doing to themselves but
>>IM won content creator of the year at the Game Awards
That alone tells me you're a vshojo fag who'd just bury his head in the sand lmao

>>66228649
>vshojo
>vtuber
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBeMjtOP0gg

>>66228573
Based on archive they use "season 1" instead

>>66228169

>>66228712
>Content

>>66228648
They won't drop them completely, once they reach a Million subs they will start playing VNs again

>>66228712
No I am not a vshojo fag, I am just saying the good things they got last year from a neutral POV. So what are the major problems they are heading to?

>>66228729
why do they, and by they I mean anyone who does this shit, do it? It honestly befuddles me.
What the fuck?

Why are all of you antis?

>>66228150
Too much estrogen in the fanbase I tell you

>>66228259
The absolute state...

Damn Niji intern janny is full on damage control

I just realized did the collective audience just forget Armis exists? I feel like even among homobeggars those guys never get mentioned at all.

>>66228837
vshojo are not vtubers
>>66228729

>>66228859
niji-anti because
HOLOLIVE THREAD
HOLOLIVE BOARD

>>66228859
Of your mom?

>>66228872
Yes and it's kinda weird because their numbers aren't that bad for homoshitter standards, unless they're getting botted of course, which they probably are.

>>66228729
Why. Why the fuck do this. I don't get it, you are a vtuber, you are breaking the point of being a vtuber by doing this. Have a RM account and post whatever you want there but don't bring it into the vtuber persona's streams. Why is this so hard for Vshojo

>>66228746
Yes I have seen that term before. Doesn't necessarily imply everyone in 1 is better, it's just a way to split the debut timeline. Also a natural point of "ok there's too many people can't be fucked to care about anyone beyond wave 5".

My cute daughterwife Jelly survived the mosquito plague and will be returning soon!

ok i missed it can someone spoonfeed me about this golden 20 meme?

>>66228922
No, this place loves my mom based on all the posts I've seen.

>>66228872
you say it as if people remember the other homos

>>66228729
So it isn't considered dox or anything like that right?

>>66228877
The major problem is that they will eventually become regular streamers and drop vtubing? I don't get your point

>>66228872
I honestly couldn't tell you if armis is referring to stars gen 3 or 2, or if there is a third one. I have tried to pay as little attention as possible after getting burned.

>>66228937
Vshojo isn't really beholden to the whole Japanese tradition of vtubing. They're really just streamers with avatars for the most part.

>>66228937
Talent freedom, chud.

Nijisanji doesn't deserve your toxic hate

>>66228989
Some nijiniggers are using the term to refer to the first 20 NijiEN members (everyone before Iluna) and it triggered other nijiniggers and some of the non-golden 20 members.

>>66229076
are you new

Sisters are delusional >>66225087

>>66228963
Very cool! Now post a picture of her spreading her butthole.

>>66228859
What do you mean? We didn't came up with this "golden 20" thing

>>66228991
People at least talk about Bettel and won't let go of fucking Vesper and Magni. Armis feels like the TTT of Stars rn.

>>66228729
Just move them to /trash/ already.

>>66228859
We love hololive here

>>66228859
I only anti those with shithead fanbases

>>66229030
>whole Japanese tradition of vtubing
There's a bunch of not japanese groups/corpos and I don't see them doing face reveals and content without their vtuber model

>shiori kissed me
l8r fags, I just got laid basically.

>>66229092
you mean to tell me we now have niji vs niji? thats funny

>>66228859
I only anti Phase.

>>66229111
I can't believe /vt/ mindbroke NijiEN and its fanbase that badly.

>>66228963
I hope she does karaoke some time after shes better

>>66228859
Are you gonna blame us for something?

>>66229076
The hate is not enough quite frankly

>>66228989
You can pinpoint the exact moment NijiEN died but >old nijifags adopted the golden nickname to save face implying that NijiEN was actually good once upon a time

>>66228729
Why the fuck notcoco is off topic and hence deleted
But this isn't?
Why does I'm thing get insta deleted for dox even though she talked about it??
What the fuck i don't understand rules anymore

>>66229076
It does though, not that they need outside help, their own fans are toxic enough

>>66229225
Niji vs niji always existed but it's going in overdrive with Pomu's and potentially Selen's graduation/termination.

Do you think NijisanjiEN would be at a better place right now if they stopped debuting after noctyx?

Something needs to be done so this place is shutdown

>>66229160
I don't see how to get around this, if the members are openly not vtubers.

>>66228729
>>66228858
>>66228877
>>66228937
>>66229030
>>66229046
>>66229160
I don't understand, why do you niggers care if they post their IRL pictures or not. Just don't watch them if you dislike that.
There are 1000s of vtuber who don't wanna show their face, so how about you guys start discussing about them instead pissing your own pants and crying because a rival company is doing apparently better than your company in some aspects and where talents are just much happier and safer

Non consensual sex with the following girls:

Okayu
Shion
Chloe
Biboo
Laplus
Mumei

>>66229076
Cringe.

Who will get EN gold today?

>>66229313
NijiEN would be a better place if it never existed.

>>66228859
i don't have memory issues? you say it like there aren't legitimate reasons for calling these things out

>>66229324
they can do whatever they want, but they shouldn't be called vtubers when they aren't.

>>66229324
twitchfags do not belong on /vt/.

>>66229076

>>66229319
Nice ESLspeak

>>66229319
Post your tits

>>66229372
And who are you to say that?
The supereme power or something??

>>66229319
did you get lost on the way to global?

>>66229326
shark hands typed this post

>>66229362
Commit unthinkable acts to the Koyote's bushy behind.

>>66229313
No? No debuts doesn't solve their biggest problem which were fickle chinksisters and organs who can't stop collectively melting down over some dumb bullshit.

>>66228837
Fine. I'll humor you.
>First you have to recognize that Vshojo are barely vtubers (thanks anon >>66228729)
>Then you have to think about how they're pretty much just western streamers with avatars, something even their own fans constantly attempt to scream that all vtubers are.
>When you then move to thinking about western streamers, you'll quickly find they have a drama meta. They CONSTANTLY mire themselves in drama, whether purposeful or not. "Twitch culture" is the same thing, they all have to dive into drama, they all have to be interconnected (Look at what mouse does with every eceleb she can get her hands on), and that only furthers how far and deep the drama spreads. That's actually why a lot of people started watching Holo in the first place, they were managed, more divorced from twitch and therefore more resistant to drama.
>THEN you have to consider what they're bringing in now. You cited Matara and Henya joining as a good thing. Henya joined as a RESULT of drama, Matara if you know her past is very much the type to be vocal about western drama shit not dissimilar to froot.
>They also added Kuro whos fans were regarded as some of the most pathetic and mentally ill around, many followed him. The same will happen with the other Nijis. They can add as many Nijis as they want, but their fanbases are known to be the most annoying, slimy and drama hungry in vtubing, that's part of the reason they're dying. Vshojo will just graft that problem onto themselves, the more they add the more apparent it will become.
Ironically, the solution to this would be to manage their talents harder, but they cant do that with their message of
>TALENT FREEDOM

>>66223394
I can do that. At least, I can do part of that, since I have the 2023 tally archived.
>TOTAL # OF EN STREAMS ON THE TALLY THAT WERE 10K OR ABOVE:
695 Unique Streams
>TOP 10 EN STREAM OF 2023 BY CCV:
#1- Koseki Bijou's Debut, 128,811 CCV
#2- Shiori Novella's Debut, 126,922 CCV
#3- FuwaMoco's Debut, 119,820 CCV
#4- Nerissa Ravencroft's Debut, 107,398 CCV
#5- Mysta Rias' Outfit Reveal, 88,225 CCV
#6- Vox Akuma's Outfit Reveal, 86,880 CCV
#7- Ike Eveland's Outfit Reveal, 84,795 CCV
#8- Shu Yamino's Outfit Reveal, 82,663 CCV
#9- Shiori Novella, Advent's Post-Debut Collab, 81,749 CCV
#10- Luca Kaneshiro's Outfit Reveal, 73,156 CCV
Tracking by Generation would take a lot more time, but I could throw this together quickly enough.

>>66229356
Spic because I'm sure the ennacuck will bot him.

How can one place cause livers so much pain is beyond me. It should be illegal.

>>66229313
I will get the usual retards saying that NijiEN would have never inclined without males but I honestly think that if they remained girls only or made a different branch for them then NijiEN wouldn't be in such a bad spot

>>66229319
This is the best place to post cunny though.

I miss Fauna

>>66229112
Have this instead

WE LIVE, ANONS!

it's judgement day bbs.... choose wisely.......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4ubJDIVxDw

>>66229415
The sadowy cabal

>>66229356
Reasonably confident some of the Mario Kart POVs will beat both.

>>66229456
How low NijiCN had fallen...

>>66229324
These falseflags are always terrible because you make them too obvious by posting a wall of text

>>66229240
That would be nice

The hololive countdown keeps getting recommended to me, so I made sure it looks like this now.

>>66229490
>Deleted
SHADOWY CABAL I KNEEL

>>66229488
>open stream
>get kissed

>>66228539
>Got rid of 3 of their worst members, Silver, Nyanners and Vei
>still have the sjw cheating whore
roru. rumao even. And I'm pretty sure nobody ever gave a shit about Silver before the wizard game bullshit so I'm starting to believe that anyone who calls her one of the worst is also a sjw cunt who wanted her gone for daring to play that game.

>>66229478
puffy

>>66229319
You sisters already tried splitting this branch in JP and EN, tried by talking shit about this thread on every other thread, tried to even beg to the jannies on catalog to shut it down and nothing worked, just give up, we are indestructible, invincible, we thrive in the invisible

>>66229541
Based beyond belief.

>>66229461
That's right, Riku's Yacht must be stopped. My liver hurts just banging Niji cum accessories and slurping vagina wine.

>>66229456
Which member got the most 10k or above streams in 2023??

>>66229445
Drama doesn't kill content creators, aren't the biggest ones constantly involved in drama?

>>66229556
Silver was the worst.

>>66229463
NijiEN would be idol level without Luxiem unironically saved the branch and give them legitimacy in the en sphere. Luxiem scared cover to the point of rushing out males the sad thing is nobody could have predicted luxiem downfall.

>>66229076
They took Coco from us fermented hate for Hololive and even before my time they made a baby candy princess cry

lol lmao

>>66228162
Why are they acting like any of NijiEN was ever good? Hell, most of the early fans agree that it started falling apart when Etyria debuted and became absolutely unwatchable when Luxiem joined.

>>66229321
Easy, have jannys that won't enforce the rules properly.

>>66228169
They're just lore-accurate.

>>66229598
Drama doesn't kill content creators whose main content is drama.

ok /#/s i have to ask: How can nijisanji EN salvage their reputation? What steps should nijiEN management take to help nijiEN recover to what it once was?

>>66229456
ironmouse doko?

Rebellion topic version 500k DORYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

We can all agree that vshojo is thriving more than nijien

>>66229440
Sharks don't have hands.

>>66229603
Nigger not a single soul talked about her outside of the shitty vshojo thread. It was the wizard game controversy that gave her spotlight so no, I don't believe she was the worst one especially when you have the cheating whore promising to donate money to a charity that had a literal pedo as one of the board members.

>>66229662
they can't. cut the dead weight and merge the branch

>>66228046
ew beggar

>orgol
why won't holo make this as a merch

>>66229605
I already said I would get replies like yours, and you are wrong

>>66229598
That entirely depends on the person and the drama. Drama very much can kill content creators, anyone who's been around long enough can tell you that.

>>66229662
Too much organizational inertia, problems won't go away unless they clean house and start from a clean slate

Vshojo is progressing towards being a run of the mill fleshtuber clique at this rate. I fully expect them to eventually be DQ'ed entirely from being a legitimate Vtuber Agency.

>>66229622
Look on it from nijisister perspective. The peak for them would be Luxnoct times.

>>66229662
Not so fast nijiintern, i won't give any free advice.

>>66229598
>aren't the biggest ones constantly involved in drama?
They are, and it makes them popular.
Until it kills their career.

>>66229313
No. They were still full steam ahead with extremely frequent mixed collabs. They were so deluded at one point that solo streams become almost a rarity.

>>66229622
After the golden 20 they lost the family vibes they were aiming for things were not perfect but compare to now it was better.

>>66229662
It's too late

>>66229662
it's impossible for niji to recover their reputation
After pomu and most likely selen graduation

>>66229662
Who cares. We need more sexy Fauna

>>66229415
IT'S THE LAW. Also a good filter for grifters and bandwagonners who don't care about growing the medium.

https://twitter.com/Mpt468329535678/status/1744056692055400951
Does anybody know what this spam account is? I feel like i've seen it on almost every JP's art tag

>>66229225
It's always existed, but /#/ is Hololive territory, so what usually floats in here are anti-holo baits. Eespecially on the JP side, this has been a longstanding issue thats finally reared its ugly head in full on the NijiEN side.

>>66228162
QRD about this please

>>66229662
They a lost cause when freaking nyanner called them a dog not worth saving.

>>66229719
That one large bread tuber got their channel killed after they tried to go after legal eagle recently iirc

>>66229076
I rarely hate things but English vtubing would be a better place if NijiEN would go away and their ‘livers’ never streamed or did anything involving vtubers again.

>>66229603
What did Ame’s friend do?

>>66229662
Their only golden goose was lazulight, but they spoiled that after ethryia and cannot return back to their glory days anymore

>>66229456
Holy shit NijiEN cratered so goddamn fast

>>66229662
Fire everyone and relaunch EN for the third time.

>>66229445
>Henya joined as a RESULT of drama
That was just a funny coincidence. She was leaving her previous corpo regardless.

>>66229688
explain this

>>66228859
>/#/ Tourism
We love hololive in this thread. Go back to your split faggot.

>>66229662
I like to think you're an upper Niji manager and that you're really so desperate and incompetent you literally have to ask /#/ what to do.

>>66229456
A fucking graduation didn't make it to top 10.

>>66229662
Nothing, unironically. They're here because of the constant deluge of bullshit they can't help but continue spewing. Anything in the short term is going to be viewed with incredible suspicion, and anything long term is impossible when livers are constantly jumping ship and enjoying soft landings for doing so. Nevermind that all of their remaining ostensible star talents have gone full retard in various ways that've alienated almost every audience they potentially had at one point.

Important update

>>66229851
that outfit reveal numbers is like chinksisters last bot gift to luxiem because their numbers are already trash before and after that stream

>>66229662
One you enter the event horizon of a black hole, there is no escape, not even light that travels at c.

>>66229598
Drama is like doing cocaine.
Turbocharged, until you crash after the high, so you chase it constantly until you become a withered husk as it hollows you out.

It hurts me that this place used to love Pomu but you keep talking shit about her after the graduation announcement, it makes no sense. Makes me think the ones attacking her are actually nijisanji fans mad that she could finally break her shackles

>>66229456
What was 2022 top 10 lookd like in comparison?

>>66229819
>trying to fuck with an actual lawyer
What sort of retarded logic led to this?

>>66229757
>family
Acted more like a high school clique that shat on their peers from other companies out of jealousy.

>>66229951
STOP JINX IT.

>>66229991

>>66229819
Tobuscus was once one of the largest channels on youtube and he got metoo'd into obscurity near instantly.

>>66229991
>It hurts me that this place used to love Pomu
KILL YOURSELF, literally one fag who didn't even post that whore that much here. delusional fucking kekold

>>66229662
First step: publicly apologize to Zaion LanZa and invite her back.

>>66229951
She's wasting her great fortune on a Mario Kart tournament...

>>66229954
proof of botting? the graphs all look natural.

>>66229991
>used to love Pomu
dyrbi?

Korea or the Spanish speaking world, where will Cover expand to next? But one thing's clear though, they won't expand to Europe

>>66229991
They'll suck her dick once she's in EN4

Hina's tits lookin good today

Doing a poll right now\
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4ubJDIVxDw

>>66229810
It's an anti of that creator. I blocked at least fifty accounts by him.

It's all your fault that niji is suffering. Anycolor should do something about this toxic playground.

>>66230088
>proof of botting
unrepeatable outlier number

>>66230118
Never ever, nijinigger.

>>66230114
anything would be better than wasting resources on the english-speaking world.

Anyone actually have links to the people talking about "golden 20"? Can't even find clips of it on youtube.

>>66229662
Don't think I could come up with a solution even if I tried, they are in a rough spot, their best chance is to go all in by pandering to women as they are doing rn

Do not get me wrong I don't really like nijisanji en but they showcased growth in areas hololive have not such as male vtubers or merch tactics which holo learned from. Holo En needs an rival to help them grow and the lost of niji en is losing that rival.

>>66230119
result
current ccv is 1103

>>66230118
It’s bad enough that Kronii’s RM associated with Mysta. We don’t need more HoloEN girls involved with the NijiEN faggots.

Stop shilling your shitter.

>>66230176
It's all twitter shit.

>>66229991
Pomu ceased being considered one of the "good Nijis" when she started openly flirting with Luca.

>>66230156
catshark...
120k karaoke...

>>66230223
Can somebody post the Christmas thing

>>66230212
Yeah stop shilling Pomu

>>66229445
vshojo 2023 mindshare is a lot weaker than 2022
same goes with their merch pull

https://youtu.be/SfmpzD4SwuY?t=287
>草草草草
草

>>66230195
Holo en already have a rival, it's bob the perm guy from management.

DANCE INTO THE FLAME OF LIFE

>>66230233
yet she still maintains her daily 20k+ stream numbers
this one is among the sea of sub 5ks

>>66230122
second result
ccv 1136

>>66230176
https://twitter.com/jinwooclips/status/1743276939912359941

>>66230114
Korea seems difficult to break into and the ES market is garbage, both in terms of profitability and in terms of culture. ES online culture is absolutely cancer.

>>66229662
Its unironically over. We're already past the point of no return. Even nuking the branch isn't gonna do shit as it'll only serve to amputate the dying limb and people will still see that you're missing an arm and look at you funny. After Selen goes, you can make an argument that NijiEN needs to be demoted a tier in the vtuber hierarchy, definitely lower than VS but only slightly higher than PC.

>>66229488
thanks, reported

>>66230118
Can and I will. Seethe if you want too but I want people to do better than Niji and being enslaved to bugmen

When is BEEG Lethal company Collab?

>>66229951
there's no way... but if she got a sololive out of some freak combination of items and choking it would be a fairytale.

>>66230317
kys Bob

>>66230195
Nijien has not been a real rival for holo since last year. Now vshojo has been a rival for nijien by poaching organs. And no, kson was already seperate from holo so she doesn’t count. Niji and Vshojo are rivals. Phase and idol are rivals. Holo has had no rivals for a long time.

>>66229991
Holobronies always hated and harrassed Pomu from day one. It's one the reasons she's graduating.

>>66230384
Sunday 14th according to Biboo's schedule.

>warned for posting a clip from a vtuber stream on said vtuber's channel
Strange that this only happens with vshojo discussion. It's almost like vshojo has no place on a vtuber board.

>>66230114
Speaking of, idol ES doko? That was, in my estimate, going to be what makes or breaks their company like luxiem and the fujo's were to nijiEN.

>>66230317
I wonder how many of the EN girls want to wring the bastard's neck

Hasn't NijiEn actually hurt the reputation of the Jp branch as well?

Just took a painful shit with a lot of gas. Called it the Nijisanji's NY Muhdung Tournament, it put me through several rounds.

>>66230392
/#/ will always be famous.

>>66230448
I take it your bait thread in the catalog isn’t getting enough (You)s?

>>66230521
No. JP is doing very well, but only because they avoid EN like the plague. They hate bringing them up in conversation. Imagine if that was a thing in hololive. Ouch.

>>66230341
3rd poll results?

cunny

>>66230468
>No real life
Tough luck Bob.

>>66230118
I thought you sisters said she will never join Hololive?

>>66230521
Repeat after me BLACK COMPANY.

>>66230578
It was part of a vtuber stream on a vtuber's channel. Vshojo should be tossed into /trash/ where it belongs. They are not vtubers.

>>66230566
ccv 1097

>>66230578
So we cant post clips of vtubers saying they went out to shop for example? Since that's real life too

>>66230519
>didn’t get 100k
Sorry anon, inferior gas for inferior company!

>>66230212
But shiori's already finished streaming

Grim

>>66230212
if they had any class they wouldn't be shilling midgets

A money hungry jew company like anycolor doesn't like to invest in falling products. Have you seen EN revenues quarter to quarter? Not surprised they are cutting and denying EN projects.

>>66230634
>>66230653
I also got ganked for posting plapkin Plappas. It's a rough world out here.

#1 reason why Advent's New Year's costume reveal was the best

>>66230198
>>66230341
>>66230640
phasekeks

so what lessons should hololive and vshojo take from the fall of NijiEN?

>>66229991
Pomu has consistently covered for EN management by lying about the canceled concert and defending them when they harassed other livers and let fujos run rampant to harass other fanbases and their own livers whenever someone did something that broke one of the one million taboos of Chinese face culture.
Pomu acting as nijien’s Ghislaine Maxwell comes at a cost and people did and will call her out

>>66230569
We love cunny here

>>66230709
>invest
Aren’t the vast majority of these things self-funded anyway?

>>66230640
Less than half of Hina's viewers answer the poll, they must be really shy.

>>66230767
Selen...

We always get niji tourism whenever we discuss Nijis here and they always end up getting filtered from all the bullying. A cycle... I love.

Hololive is the Spanish “La Liga”
>the top of the crop, the stated goal of every top player, the most prestigious, notorious and exclusive league in the world
Hololive English is the English “Premiere League”
>same as above, except in English
Nijisanji is the Portuguese “Primeira Liga”
>sometimes their clubs eek a victory in an important international tournament but all of their national feats hinge on the performance of a single of their men
Nijisanji English is Brazilian “Brasilerão”
>the destination for players that didn’t make it big enough for more prestigious tournaments, still too proud due the accomplishments of the feats of a generation long last
VShojo is United States “MLS”
>nobody gives a fuck about them outside of the United States (or even inside) and their name is only mentioned in the context of hiring players long past their prime and into their retirement age
>DISCUSS

holocucks still seething lmao

>>66230085
the prize is a sololive

>>66230715
Mococo not showing her only redeeming quality is a massive oversight

>>66230816
Seething about what?

ccv 1133

>>66230749
At least give the organs 3% to keep them around

>>66230808
they also love it apparently seeing that they keep coming back

>>66230767
Self funded, but Riku still steals profits like the fucking pig he is. BLACK. COMPANY.

>>66230843
I mean, shopkeeper can't be at fault.

>>66230841
Seething about losing pomu to vshoujo

>>66230816
They’re so fucking mad

>>66230794
Well I’m sick and in bed and I don’t want to log into my PC so I didn’t answer the polls.

>>66230817
soccer is for faggots and women
discuss

>>66230640
>dead chat
>5k vods
>20 comments under vod
it was pretty obvious day 1

>>66230114
Indian, mexicans or brazilian. Pick your poison.
This is going by youtube statistic of users.
My guess would probably be that Cover and Nijisanji basically targetted all those above Japan in users, and only Cover got lucky in the United States and SEA ESL region.
German, South Korea, France going by disposable income and the amount of free time they have. This would be the most ideal spot.

The obvious solution to the NijiCN conundrum is to just make it the fulltime VTA draft dodgers side branch. They're going to be absorbed by the main branch anyway.

>>66230816
H-huh?

>>66230808
Mindbreaking them will be fun then

I love these two so much

>>66230883
lol

https://youtu.be/YAajIawGvg4
2view

>>66230715
Dangerous woman

>10 SEED songs
nayuta plz

>>66230883
how is Luca's cocksleeve a loss to Hololive?

>>66229802
She's perfect

>>66230883
you mistake laughing for seething

>>66230883
Thanks for making me laugh.

Aa a relative newfag could # answer a few question. How vile and disgusting were sisters during Luxiems peak and is our response to the downfall comparable. I'm going to assume were being nice in comparison.

>>66230223
This never happened btw
>>66230260
No because it's not a real thing

>>66230901
Europoors do not supa, they do not memba and they do not buy merch. Companies respond to market demands, they are not charities

>>66230808
yeah

>>66230759
Based

>>66230260
kinda nuts that she did em like that and then she's graduating less than a month afterwards
I genuinely don't know how the pomudachis can cope

>>66230891
ccv 1142
less and less ppl voting

Latest poll was kinda esl and cute.

>>66231023
you can check the archive

If holoscum can blame niji for Aloe's graduation then I can blame you for Pomu's as well. Your shitposting has consequences. You joked about serious stuff like her having cancer before and other terrible things. It damaged her mental health and contributed to the graduation.

>>66231028
>they are not charities
IDs and homos exist

>>66231023
We’re being nice. Among other things sisters has a recurring thread at the catalog
>Vox passed <such and such Holo>
They got their comeuppance tho because
>Kobo passed Vox
and Kobo beating him for 1M broke their spirit

>>66230317
Fuck Bob

>>66230715
She's gonna pass Mococo easily in total fanart because of the outfit.

>>66231098
Aloe was harrased, they would call to her personal phone and even go to her house, retard

>>66231108
Have they all collectively suicide? Where are they now?

>>66231103
Not for long

>>66231098
>nijishitji shoots itself in the foot
>this is hololives fault

>>66230901
>india
Remember NijiIN?

>>66231023
it birthed the cripple tally which they want to kill recently because they keep losing

>>66231103
And both are more profitable than the entire euro vtuber market which is brave group. That’s how bad the euro market is.

>>66231098
post wallet if serious

>>66231023
Not as much as now.
Luxiem recline mindbroke them heavy.

>>66230569
More of this cutie please

>>66228859
Because i love hololive

>>66231098
>Your shitposting has consequences
you started it, faggots

>>66231098
Point to the pomu harassment by holofans. Oh wait, they are all nijifalseflags I forgot. Shooting themselves in the foot like the experts they are.

>>66231023
It's really impossible to disentangle actual legitimate "sisters" from people who just used Vox to shitpost and get these autistic retards in the thread riled up.

>>66229586
That's, that's a lot of counting. But I'll do what I can.
># OF TIMES A TALENT GOT OVER 10K ON THE EN TALLY, 2023:

Aia: 1 Time
Alban: 5 Times
Amelia: 9 Times
Axel: 1 Time
Baelz: 33 Times
Bettel: 2 Times
Bijou: 47 Times
Claude: 1 Time
Crimzon: 1 Time
Doppio: 2 Times
Elira: 4 Times
Enna: 6 Times
Fauna: 60 Times
Finana: 2 Times
Flayon: 1 Time
Fungus: 5 Times
FuwaMoco: 106 Times
Goldbullet: 1 Time
Gura: 34 Times
Hakka: 1 Time
Ike: 4 Times
Ina: 25 Times
IRyS: 34 Times
Kiara: 28 Times
Kotoka: 3 Times
Kronii: 27 Times
Kunai: 1 Time
Kyo: 1 Time
Luca: 12 Times
Magni: 1 Time
Maria: 1 Time
Meloco: 1 Time
Millie: 3 Times
Mori: 52 Times
Mumei: 54 Times
Mysta: 20 Times
Nerissa: 24 Times
Nina: 3 Times
Octavio: 1 Time
Petra: 1 Time
Pomu: 6 Times
Regis: 1 Time
Ren: 2 Times
Rexford: 1 Time
Scarle: 1 Time
Selen: 9 Times
Shinri: 1 Time
Shiori: 15 Times
Shu: 6 Times
Sonny: 5 Times
Uki: 4 Times
Vantacrow: 1 Time
Vesper: 1 Time
Vezalius: 1 Time
Victoria: 1 Time
Vox: 12 Times
Yu: 1 Time

>>66231028
They are a great alternative to an otherwise lackluster market.
>>66231028
>Companies respond to market demands
You really thought people wanted diamonds rings before the commercial?

>>66231098
>It damaged her mental health
Shouldn't come here then, since that stuff never left the container

>>66231149
Why would they fight a losing battle? They know it's ogre

>>66229606
Just in case it wasn't a typo, the verb you want is to foment, not ferment chu

>>66231098
Why are you comparing something that was entirely in the JP sphere to something in EN? ABSOLUTELY NO EN HOLOLIVE FANS CONTRIBUTED TO NIJIEN'S DOWNFALL.

>>66231213
>Two barefoot talents
What does it mean

>>66231184

>>66231300
how big is your monitor

https://twitter.com/PhaseConnect/status/1744086848572678398
https://twitter.com/PhaseConnect/status/1744086848572678398
https://twitter.com/PhaseConnect/status/1744086848572678398

Chink maple is sleeping and this got 500 upvotes. That might be an all time record for that sub

Idol status?

>>66230268
yet here you are perpetuating the mindshare

>>66231149
back to kpop or other garbage they used to eat

>>66231295
Anon...
The invisible gun

>>66231342
BERYLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

Phase Gen4 thoughts?
Is this the niji killer?
https://twitter.com/PhaseConnect/status/1744086848572678398

>>66231098
ACK ACK ACK ACK ACK ACK ACK ACK ACK ACK ACK ACK ACK ACK ACK ACK ACK ACK ACK ACK ACK ACK ACK ACK ACK ACK ACK ACK ACK ACK ACK ACK!

>>66231229
The posts joking about her having breast cancer before for once. Only a holosubhuman from some third world shithole would post something like that.

>>66231342
hmmmmm

>>66231342
What? Don’t they have a JP branch already for years?

Huh, this is of note
https://twitter.com/Techycutie/status/1744054093675397348

>>66231322
Yeaaaa. Thats the good stuff. Good shit anon

>>66230564
The JP-speaking NijiENs get invited to events all the time.

>>66228150
Something to keep them busy I guess.
I wonder if they will going to keep deflecting post-Pomu graduation whenever someone brings up how shitty the management is. Right now their cope is
>Noooooooo don't talk shit about management while Pomu is graduating even though it's one of the reasons why she's doing that, you are ruining her moment!

>>66231158
Ngl Nijisanji probably thought they could penetrate India. Which is extremely funny to me given that majority of them have little to no disposable income and free time.

Phasechads won, sorry Nijiniggers

>>66231433
and the ones who don't speak JP?

>>66231375
Bold move from Sakana, two gens back to back even if this is jp only.
It explains why Nasa went on an unseiso arc.

>>66231347
there was a site that used to track both twitch and youtube streams
twitchniggers were using that for their tribalfaggotry
I'm glad it died

>>66230749
The most important lesson from NijiEN:
>MAKE SURE YOU LET YOUR TALENTS COME IN A SLOW, BUT STEADY ENOUGH TRICKLE TO KEEP SOME COHESION AS AN ACTUAL GROUP OF FRIENDS
>If having a "Family Group" style of content is not what you are aiming for as a group: DO NOT BUILD THAT EXPECTATION BEFOREHAND
You can have a close-knit group, and you can have a wide field of talents who only really work in the same company.
BUT YOU CAN'T HAVE BOTH. That's how the clique shit happened.

>>66231406
Michi/Nasa/Deer are considered part of gen 1.

>>66231264
If you think the euro market is worth it then go ahead take out a lone and make your own euro vtuber company.
Oh right you’re poor like the other euros now stfu brussels needs more of your income.

>>66227825
/news/ anchor
Reply with a short description of the news and a link to the source!

News from today:
>Phase Connect JP branch
https://twitter.com/PhaseConnect/status/1744086848572678398

Yesterday's news:
>Kanata album announced
https://twitter.com/hololive_En/status/1743622192305451366
>Sora mini album announced
https://twitter.com/tokino_sora/status/1743593432487240111
>A recent interview with Brave Group CEO Keito Noguchi
https://realsound.jp/tech/2024/01/post-1534087.html
>Nijisanji x Morinaga Choco collab
https://www.morinaga.co.jp/1choco-1smile/nijisanji/
>Yashiro, Chaika, Ibrahim, Yorumi, Kagami donated 2M yen for earthquake relief in Japan
https://twitter.com/Inajun2434/status/1742542487707599289
>Joucho album announced
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21HWFJWClcs
>VShojo x bisoulovely jewelery
https://twitter.com/vshojo/status/1743362366572482623
>Vspo x Cardfight Vanguard collab animation
https://youtu.be/WzJG3pPlcp8
>KAF appearing at Aniplex 20th anniversary
https://x.com/virtual_kaf/status/1743816402602266892?s=20
>Shikinagi Akira in Da Vinci’s February issue
https://natalie.mu/comic/news/556089

>>66231475
What about them?

>>66226954
the fuck, when did it happen?

>>66231475

>>66231530
Oh dear, he's crying now.. sad. Maybe he could think of a better alternative instead of throwing a bitch fit on the internet.

>>66231344
Did they compensate them for all the time and work the performance practice took out of work/streaming?

WEELLLLLLL, NUMBERBROS? AGREED?

>>66230901
>>66231028
More like, any good euro vtuber is going to be using english anyway (Kiara, Panko, Nina, etc.) so there is no point in a euro only gen.

Nijishits

>>66231370
It's definitely not summer yet, at least not for the northern hemisphere.

crazy to think these 2 will likely never have a meaningful interaction with each other

>>66231028
i'll give you SC, but keeping memberships/subscriptions going isn't an issue for euros

>>66231232
Anju...
who is the person between Ao and Makoto?

>suicide
Wait, I have an idea how they can salvage their reputation. Someone has to actually kill himself and anycolor needs to do their best to help everybody involved. Then they get the good company image again and people would start liking them.
Suicide isn't the only solution but I just had that thought and nothing elsee comes to my mind.
Am I stupid?

>>66231578
kek
aren't there like 4 niji graduations this month?

>>66231612
With my cock

>>66231342
I think he’s getting in over his head trying to enter a competitive market.

>>66231450
I don't understand why they thought they had a chance, best I can tell there are barely any Indian Indians who actually like anime-related shit. I feel like Anykara unironically looked at the chart of YT users and just went, "Yup, India it is"