/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

She doesn't do ear licking? I'm new to her asmr but it seems like she does everything else, so that would be suprising. Also most of those subs are either dead or vod watchers. She is an asmr artist more than a chuuba at this point.

>>66145331
This slut is near Rushia level menhera, that's why her numbers stay low

>>66145331
No that's what happens when you pay for dead subs retard.

>>66145331
Does she get her naked tits out often?

>>66145331
I don't even like Nene but I'm glad she doesn't do ear licking. That shit is nasty to my ears.

>>66145651
Nasty how?
If it's giving you a weird reaction then isn't that what you came for? You forgot what the R in ASMR stood for?

>>66145884
nta but everyone is different when it comes to asmr. For instance some people like eating which I can't stand at all.

>>66145331
her voice is incredibly annoying and she does that twitchwhore accent thats why no one watches her

Earlicking isnt hot at all. Either tell me to dashite pyu pyu pyururu or fuck off.

She isn't getting very many views during her streams, but it seems like a lot of people are tuning in to her asmr VOD's. My guess is the people that complain about her, don't watch her stream but still goom to her asmr.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9rKni3AUoc
she literally sounds like a downie

>>66146709
bro fuck you, id seen her shilled so much but this is the first time id heard her
that voice needs a gore warning, thats worse than kiara

>>66145331
Karin (that gets 10+k ccv when she does earlicking) gets about those views when streaming games

>>66145431
She said that ear licking his beneath her.

>>66147703
>Karin
Now THIS is the good content.

>>66145331
I'm not against her, but I don't want to watch any Kawaii. The company sucks and I haven't watched them since gen3 graduation.

>>66146709
Her voice is at least passable when she does her deep mommy voice, but regular is indeed unlistenable. I'm not sure what type of Stockholm syndrome cloudcucks are on, but her fake laugh is so grating that it's impossible to deal with her regular ASMR even. Not to mention her sound quality is a complete waste of the $10k KU100 and she refuses to try out any new form of ASMR triggers beyond her small handful of repetitions.

>>66145331
GRIM GRIM GRIM

>>66145331
kisses are much better than earlicking desu senpai

>>66150484
>Not to mention her sound quality is a complete waste of the $10k KU100
$11,503, actually.

>>66150484
>she refuses to try out any new form of ASMR triggers beyond her small handful of repetitions
This is her worst sin
All her asmr streams sound exactly the same

>>66145331
Are there asmr chuubas that focus on talking and breathing? Not scenarios, I just don't like this taptaptap and fabric rustling thing most of them are doing.

>>66145331
muh 100000 dollars audio setup

>>66154802 (me)
kisses, also

>>66154802
I like Fallenshadow a lot, she does a lot of ear rubbing and kisses and soft chatting. Very little tapping and scratching, at least in the ones I've listened to.

>>66154802
>>66154971
you're literally in a (bait) thread about one

>>66145331
It's what happens when you are a basic manipulative Ethot with zero entertainment value outside getting men off via asmr on the internet and what happens when you bot subscribers and tell your simps to view boost you on different platforms nene amano is one of the most dishonest whores in the English vtuber scene her mother was unironically 100% right about her.

Kill yourself already schizo

>>66155501
Nene does the fabric rustling (or whatever it is, I don't know) a lot. I like her otherwise especially when she kisses.

>>66145331
LICK MY EAR AND MAKE ME CUM OR I WONT WATCH YOU
Kek the lives of women "content creators" is hilarious.

>>66155758
Cloudcuck there is more than one IP in this thread your whore and her black company aren't very well liked

>>66145331
since when is 400 bad? pretty damn good for vtubing at this level.

Nene gets her views/subs from vod watchers who masturbate to her ASMR

>>66145331
No, this is what happens when you're /here/.

>>66156504
400ccv is great, you just have an influx of holofags that have stumbled into small corpo vtubing thanks to Phase hypes.
they weren't here when Phase girls reaching 400 was looked at as the impossible dream now they try and dunk that 400 is le bad

>>66145331
>small corpo chuuba
>gets 300+ ccv every time
>has a playbutton
Nene is in the top 0.5% of small corpo vtubers; there are only like 8 girls in all of the EN small agencies that can say they check all of those boxes.

>>66157290
there are approximately 300+ active small agency EN vtubers
the ones that check those boxes
>Pippa
>Tenma
>Lia
>Shiina
>Rin
>Yuko
>Nene
that's it. that's the list.

>>66157547
why didn't Mozzu come out?

>>66157290
Cloudtomo nene cope in full effect

>>66157547
>silver award button
>a gen1 who started her company
>does hundreds in ccv
nene is small corpo royalty

>>66156837
400 is bad anon I'm sorry your company sucks so much she can start up her onlyfans anytime :(

I like kneenay a lot, but I've had trouble watching streams ever since her outfits got noticeably sluttier in design. She also seemingly bimbofied herself, which is a shame because I genuinely believe she's sharp and witty as fuck when she lets herself be.

Pink Sweater my beloved.

>>66145331
She helps me sleep I don't care.

>>66145651
Listen to Honda Poko. If you still don't like it then I hate to say it but you're probably a faggot.

>>66158431
Anything over 100 is a lot

When you admit having a bf.

>>66154802
Alchemilla Menace was the best I've heard in english anyway. She doesn't really do it anymore but there are vods up on youtube still.

Botting?

>>66164185
>menace
yet another whore

>>66145331
>Good talents utterly wasted by bad management.
Many such cases in vtubing.

>>66164185
>>66166992
Go follow the green clown in Idol and you might find a familiar voice.

>>66169009
Yes we know she is a whore who isnt as good as when she was Menace

>>66169548
Many such cases sadly, compare the old Lemonleaf/Shondo collabs to a complete lack of ASMR since they'd rather be variety gamers instead.

>>66145331
Based and true she will never be top tier until she does ear lick ASMR.

>>66145331
Good. Ear licking sucks, no one under 300 lbs likes this shit.
She does close whispers, soft kisses and heartbeats, what makes her better than 80% of other ASMR vtubers.

>>66169548
But mommy not-Menace is great in her RP (as the skanky mom you never had)
https://www.youtube.com/live/hjPSyqoULkU?si=XzhTX_F5EtG_DPwl

>>66145479
Rushia was very popular. Nene is just boring.

>>66145331
Karma.

>>66178876
Cope. Nene is one of the most successful small corpo vtubers that has ever streamed.

>>66180806
not really copetomo

>>66162774

>>66183575
Nene is the face of one of the Big 3 small corpos, has a playbutton, makes good money, and streams to hundreds.
Yeah I'd say she's done pretty well for herself. She has done better than 99% at this level.

>>66183785
>Nene is the face of one of the Big 3 small corpos
Cloudtomochama.............................................................................................>>66183784

>>66157290
>>66157547
I would agree but Nene has hit 1k ccv before so this is a decline from her personal best. She peaked. The problem is lack of ad money and kawaii investing most of their capital and goodwill into a 3d concert that was a vanity project with no business plan on how to use 3d to grow the company.

>>66184000
Kawaii is a Top 3 en small agency. This is an unwavering fact. It is them, Idol and Phase.

>>66184048
you haven't been keeping up with kawaii lately. And their CCV is rising across the board right now too. Nene is regularly 4 viewing ASMR, she hit 800s yesterday with 300s on twitch at the same time.

>>66184211
Nene has had 1 legit 4view stream in the last month.
I will give her12/17 because the avg is close enough. The other 4views, the avg is pitiful

>>66184541
>all those 4views
v-dere bros.....how do we cope?

>>66183785
>Big 3 small corpos
>Big 3 small
What is this nonsense. A corpo cannot be both big and small at the same time.
There is Phase and Idol who grew into medium sized, then there is V&U and Pixelink who so far have not had any major problems then there are the fallen: akioair, tsunderia, cyberlive, project F
And the injured old timers who have been here for a while but have not grown: prism, kawaii, vreverie.
I don’t know where to sort eien.
The point is that eien, pixelink and v&u all have solid arguments for being the third best small corpo and none of them can even reach Idol’s coattails. Kawaii had a longer time to do things and has wasted momentum therefore it cannot be classified in a top 3 if such a thing even existed when it is more like top2

>>66184541
any reason for selecting 12/8 through 12/20? seems arbitrary

>>66147703
This is why JP ASMRtists are still unmatched , nothing worse than some fuck face asking the chuuba mid ASMR if she plays genshit and the chuuba proceeds to indulge them with a long answer

>>66145331
Actually I would just like to point out that it's not
>less than
but in fact is
>fewer than
as the viewers are countable.

Thank you.

>>66184782
Top 3 small corpos. You're being pedantic.

Kawaii are much bigger than eien, pixelink and v&u. They are inclining. Nene has broken 4view 7 times in the last month. Reina and Lua are inclining and will hit 100k this year. The demise of Kawaii was greatly exaggerated.

>>66145331
literally every major youtube channel has 99% dead subs, you're better than this you number loving sub-human.

>>66184090
Idol and Phase appeared in the Vtuber awards.
What about Kawaii, did they appear - wait no it was V-dere. How can you claim to be top of anything if you are not relevant enough to be in the vtuber awards?

>>66184211
Interesting

Nene's antis are brown LOL

>>66145331
God I hate the way her cleavage is rendered on that model, it looks so bad

>>66184090
They arnt though this is a recent cope you have been spoutting and it's nonsense. I follow live CCV that is all that matters that is pure real time engagement. Nene and kawaii get run the fuck over day in and out by almost everyone else in that department cloudtomo.

>>66147703
I LOVE FAT CAT TATS
and her earlicking. Downright addicting.

>>66184782
I would rather be Nene than anybody in Phase not named Pippa, Tenma, Lia and Muyu.
The only numbers than matter are subs and supas, and Nene would be Top 2 in Phase in both categories.

>>66185046
Now that I think about it, if Yuko, Coni and others leave Idol (they are having a lot of activity on their PLs) then Idol could fall and Kawaii could take their place in the industry.
It would be poetic because Idol’s ad blitz is one of the contributing factors that led to gen3’s walkout, and Coni being a bad influence on Sava, so maybe Idol will fall and get replaced if Kawaii maintains its incline.

>>66154802
Polka

>>66185410
holy copechama my god huff that wack bullshit straight from her muff why dont you

>>66185836
Nene has made 3x the amount of money Shiina has and 8x the amount of money Panko has.

>>66158479
In what way did she bimbofy herself? She is still witty and bright

>>66185998
Shiina gets a % of merch sales for every merch she designed and she made a lot of keychains, acrylics, posters plus the 1-time commissions like those 17 chibi models and artwork for ads and other things management commissions from her. That is way more money than just supas and throne

>>66185836
nene amano is one of the top small corpo chuubas to ever do it. she did it and achieved her dreams, people like mozzu only wish they could.

>>66186444
>girl makes so little money from streaming she has to design merch on the side to make ends meet
grim

>>66185313
There's a mexican one so you aren't really wrong

>>66185998
see >>66183784

>>66186444
Anon I'm on your side, but trying to spin Shiina is making banks while being an art slave is disingenuous at best. She hasn't even streamed in weeks because she is worth more to Phase as an artist than a streamer.

>>66145331
Why does she have so many haters? I don't watch her regularly, but she I peek into her streams, they are always entertaining.

>>66184782
if you were to make a list of the top 10 en small agency vtubers ever, nene is on that list

>>66186778
because she's more profitable than most by doing seiso GFE and sister are seething over it. Also pic related fans are mad

>>66145331
Why does she have so many haters? I don't watch her regularly, but when I peek into her streams, they are always entertaining.

>>66184048
Calling Kawaii part of the “big three of small corpos” is like calling Phase part of the “big four of EN vtubing”.

>>66186927
>All Time Small EN Copro Chuubas
1. Pippa Pipkin
2. Rin Penrose
3. Tenma Maemi
4. Miori Celesta
5. Ashelia Rinkou
6. Kaneko Lumi
7. Inukai Purin/Muu Muyu
8. Amanogawa Shiina
9. Nene Amano
10. Yuko Yurei

You can fuck around with the order, but that is probably the Top 10. Nene has a spot at the table.

The mindbroken cloudtomo in this thread is genuinly more entertaining then nene is. Anon could get better live numbers then she could for non asmr videos

>>66185500
>so maybe Idol will fall and get replaced if Kawaii maintains its incline.
more like Coni drags her friends to v-dere and v-dere just becomes Idol 2 (which is Cyberlive 2)

>>66187280
where is mozumi?

>>66145331
That's what happens when you advertise your corpo as parasocial friendly. It really goes to show how little those lonely bastards make up out of all vtuber viewers.
>>66156504
>>66157290
The views are actually worse than holostars, but you wouldn't admit that, would you?

>>66185410
I’d rather be in Phase. They actually have chemistry and get along. Does Nene do anything with the other girls besides that one concert or is she basically just a glorified indie?
The thing about being in an inclining corpo is that you can start inclining for no apparent reason as people who like your content who didn’t know about you discover you. If you’re lucky enough to be the standout in an obscure corpo, it’s way less stable.
Why does Nene never branch out in her ASMRs? She’s stuck trying to keep the audience instead and doesn’t have a strong box to let her try new things (no, I don’t mean collab with males, anyone who does that is too retarded to oshi anyway)

>>66187349
I have nothing against Nene at all and I like Kawaii, but all the shenanigans around Nene are so funny and all the nonsense that comes about from her weird menhera fits and arguments in random threads like this are too entertaining.

>>66187517
Anon, StarsEN gets more views than Phase. They’re the runt of the “big corpos” because they’re really just a leech on the actual big corpo (HoloEN), but they’re still bigger than Phase. Of course they’re bigger than Kawaii too.

>>66187518
Part of it is her living circumstances
>has 3D but no room to move around
>can't use her kitchen solo
once she moves in a few months more things will open up

>>66187592
cheers too entertainment

>>66187592
All these cloudtomos trying to cope by saying Nene is a top ten small corpo EN vtuber of all time. They’re right. Thing is, that’s a really small pond, and that still makes you super obscure.
The only “famous” small corpo vtuber who truly overshadows the rest of her corpo is Pippa. For the rest, how much being “big” in the small corpo world depends entirely on how famous the rest of your corpo is. There’s a reason phasefags are bold enough to keep running their mouths while other small corpo shills (including kawaii) quickly get shut down by the board

Is Nene a top 10 smallpo?
Nene Amano yearly performance rank #118 below Himemiya “The Runt” Rie.
Ok what about recent monthly performance?

>>66187727
they’re really just a leech on the actual big corpo (HoloEN)
I wasn't referring to Tempus, are they perhaps living rent free inside of your head?

Maybe Nene’s recent performance is better.
December median Nene Amano rank #123.
I mean it’s still good to get in top 200 EN but it’s not anything to brag about. Other categories of youtube content have their own ranking too, vtubing is a small pond.

>>66187996
>>66188153
You should learn about hours streamed and hours watched. Nene is a workhorse.

>>66188032
No, I just checked vstats recently, and I know that both StarsJP and StarsEN individually are bigger than every small corpo this board talks about. What I meant by that is *even* StarsEN alone still has more views than Phase Connect, so of course Holostars (whether as a whole or just either branch individually) would have more views than Kawaii.
All I’m saying is “this small corpo has less views than Holostars” isn’t an own, because all of them have less views than even HolostarsEN, which is smaller than Holostars.

>>66186929
Why would they be mad? They won. Kawaii is a desert where nothing grows and it will stay that way because of Nene’s behavior

>>66187996
I would rather be #1 in a corpo than a faceless runt who contributes nothing like Himemiya Rie. She is living off of the progress made by others in her company,
also get back to me when she gets her silver award. she hasn't accomplished shit.

We can talk circles around all the metrics but can we compare the numbers that actually matter?

>>66188153
Nene would cream and gush her panties for numbers like this on a non asmr stream this is a indie by the way no corpo support behind the Vtuber at all

>>66188286
Kawaii survived and is thriving. I can't wait for Nene, Reina, and Lua to take a group photo with their playbuttons together in 2024. The amount of seethe and cope it will cause Sava will be next level.

>>66187280
>Inukai Purin/Muu Muyu
On what grounds do you base that on?

>>66145331
youtube subs are not worth that much

>>66188481
nta but purin is the most small corpo vtuber to ever stream. she has been in the small corpo game since 2020. a fixture in the scene and now she is back and better than ever,

Nene's antis are infinitely mindbroken because Nene
a. Does GFE
b. Avoids male collabs
c. Makes more money than 99% of small vtubers despite her ccv

This combination of things makes sisters PERMA SEETHE!

>>66188425
yes BUT did you see the vtuber awards?! mozzu was on the screen for 4 seconds where she LOST like a loser.

>>66188577
Better than ever? Why doesn't she even have 20k subs then?

>>66188577
I would genuinely consider Purin true small corpo royalty, right up there with Miori. I’m not the kind of retarded phasefag who thinks gen3’s post-debut buff means we’re dethroning NijiEN immediately, but I would be optimistic about Muyu’s future staying power.

>>66187280
I disagree with this list. Nene, Pippa, and Miori for example built whatever they have now on their own. They MADE their corpos big. On the other hand, Lia inclined by acting like a Pippa lite, in a corpo that already blew up. Rin and Yuko had their success served on a plate and even that wasn't enough so they had to leech from Holo with all those cringe shorts about Gura.
Lumi and Tenma are great too and I love Purin but her being an all time great? I don't know. Amiya is way more popular on her own, even with a debuff (for the mainstream retard audience) niche such as retro games.

>>66187935
>Thing is, that’s a really small pond
You're retarded.
it is a much bigger pond than the Big 3. How many EN vtubers are there between Holo, NIJI and vshojo? 50?

Small corpo is literally hundreds and hundreds with dozens of corpos that come and go. There are so many you don't even know they exist. That is how many fish are in the small corpo ocean

>>66188580
The only thing breaking my mind is your proud display of unashamed prideful cope in this post nene really hooked herself up with some smooth brains i will give her that much

>>66188178
Then again you're implying that Tempus wouldn't be as big as they are now if they didn't "leech off of HoloEN", but even then the advertising for Tempus through collabs isn't as egregious or prevalent as /vt/ makes it out to be. So even then, it still proves my point that Tempus has a leg to stand on their own as a branch despite being the "runt of big corpos" that you labeled them as.

>>66188864
You just admited that Nene earning so much money bothers you because <insert incel cope about all women being whores and they don't deserve anything>.
I'm not even a Nene fan btw I find her laugh incredibly annoying and her content went downhill like a year ago or so. But at least I'm not a mindbroken seething sister. You are beyond pathetic lol. Keep seething on /vt/ every day tranny kek.

>>66188832
I mean it’s a small pond in terms of how many people actually care. The tenth biggest small corpo vtuber is an insignificant speck compared to Hololive.

>>66188815
>Lia inclined by acting like a Pippa lite
What year is this?
Lia inclined by networking on her own. If Lia acted like Pippa, she doesn't get near Pomu or Neuro Sama.

>Rin
Rin literally changed the meta. She is the definition of a game changer.

>Tenma
See: Lia. She is a fierce networker and has her own brand.

>>66188815
>On the other hand, Lia inclined by acting like a Pippa lite, in a corpo that already blew up
Excuse me? Lia helped the corpo to incline. The start of this year was not kind to Phase. Lia and Tenma helped establish that Phase being a sadgirl corpo wasn’t just a euphemism—in other words “sadgirl” doesn’t just mean “acts like Pippa”.
Lia got popular *because* her menhera isn’t the same as Pippa’s. It’s like how Hololive proves that being an idol doesn’t have to mean acting like Sora—Phase has proven being a schizo vtuber doesn’t mean acting like Pippa.

>>66188832
Streamer groups aren’t real companies.
Neither is a sugar daddy with a discord.
A real vtuber small corpo, small, has a war chest and substantial cashflow, those so called hundreds of groups you are referring to aren’t recognized by the community as vtuber corpos because they have no real business.
The real number of small corpos are around 10 to 12. This is why the term microcorpo exists to differentiate if those microcorpos even bothered to register as a business.

>>66188961
no what i wrote was im impressed by that dont twist it cloudkek

>>66188971
It's still dumb.
Fuwamocco were high 2views when they were peers with the small copro girls. They couldn't make it past that point
Nobody cared about them until the blue dorito put the machine behind them.

>>66189260
Lia blew up after the Chris Chan stream. That is all I'll say. Then she considered deleting it. Pippa was Pippa from the start. Lia "remembered" to be "herself" after almost 2 years. I'm not buying it.
Tenma is great though. Probably one of the most authentic vtubers on the EN side now that doesn't give a shit about anything and just does what she wants.

>>66189324
>cloudkek
It's like you can't even read. Now go back to /pkg/ and seethe off cooldown because your life is garbage and you need to vent through anime girls kek

>>66188961
The amount of reach and seethe in this post lmao

>>66188167
Everyone on that list is a workhorse.
What is this now are we giving awards for effort? Participation trophies?!

>>66189324
its kektomo newfag

>>66189543
Its cloudkek now fag.

>>66145331
If she's not throat-fucking the mic or masturbating next to it, I'm not listening.
Simple as.

>>66188999
Literally the only thing on her channel to get over 400 viewers for quite some time were her collabs with Pippa. This is after her advice collab with Neuro by the way.

>>66145331
For someone that acts like an angel, she is a complete cunt.
1. Can't ignore one in a million of negative comments and has to hyperfocus on it, often completely ruining the stream for your average viewer (except a few faggy cloudtomos that cheer her on for doing it)
2. Sperged out over an art of a former member. Guy wasn't even trying to be rude or anything. She's really not beating that cunt behind the scenes allegations.
3. Doesn't give a shit about what her fanbase wants and spams self indulgent garbage like Umineko for 100+ streams because of her sad VA dream
4. Low effort ASMR that you can hear from every other vtuber and a fleshtuber ever. Generic trigger slop.
5. Actually god bummed out that she wasn't nominated for that rigged award show slop that only Vshojo fags care about

Can we get a proper small corpo /#/? There's clearly interest.

>>66189543
cloudhomo
kektomo
cloudkek
cloudcuck
same diff lol

>>66189379
>Lia blew up after the Chris Chan stream
no she didn't. Chris Chan did a huge number at the time, but that was all it was.
Lia never "blew up."
Lia quickly got away from that content, and she predictably inclined doing her own thing with her chatting streams.
Again, Lia got noticed on her own networking and working with Pomu & Neuro & Manlybadasshero. Pippa didn't have shit to do with any of those things.

>>66189715
this proves my point. Lia didn't have a "blow up" point. she slowly but surely climbed. If you looked at her month over month over month, she grew every month and she did it away from Pippa.

>>66189715
Why are you showing VODs from April?

>>66189845
But at the very least, she has never interrupted her post-donothon reward ASMR stream to talk on discord with some guy for half an hour, so I'd still put Nene above Lia.

>>66190021
You make a compelling argument. Nene does indeed look good when you compare her with Lia.

>>66190015
Because that anon was implying that it was "connections" that got her to incline when, post-collab with Neuro-sama, she did not have any kind of noticeable incline. The incline comes from stopping the video game streams and becoming a second-string Pippa.

>>66188425
Is that Reina on the top bar? That was some decline before the ad bump hit hard

>>66190021
It being a "dick sucking asmr" made that way more funny. Lia is nice tho

>>66189715
>>66190280
September was the month Lia turned the corner. You will never guess what happened in September! Pomu and Neuro Sama! Especially Pomu!
The overall Phase incline didn't happen until November-December.
So basically you're stupid.

>>66192248
It looks like she just stopped streaming? Went from 53, 59, 60 hours to 34, 34, 29, 20, 20, 32?

>>66192423
Claims its finals

>>66192248
What does the ranking mean? Why is she ranked 80th with a 343 median of peak in March and ranked 75th with a median of peak of 1038 in December?

>>66192581
That’s out of all the kagai vtubers. Scroll up to see an example info. An anon made a chart for every month

>>66192581
that is monthly rank. as the year went on, more vtubers were added to the data pool.

>>66147703
Queen of earlicking is still Mare for me, but I suppose I can check this one out as well

>>66192581
Monthly rank like >>66192703 said.
In March, it was out of 118 vtubers. In December, it was out of 180. You have to think any new debuts like Advent or Idol Gen2 or Phase Invaders/Gen3 or the new NIJI gens didn't exist then, but did by the end of the year.

>>66145331
She could be making Gura numbers if only she went deep into making only slutty content instead of messing with generic streamer shit like playing games.

We could have an EN Karin... What a waste.

>>66148409
You are 100% making up shit, right?

>>66188815
>Amiya is way more popular on her own
her corpo died while she was still in it.
honestly any girl who was in a corpo at the time it went out of business should be disqualified from being in any "top small corpo chuuba of all time" list. if you were so good, you could have kept them alive.

also
>on her own
good for her she is doing well as an indie, we're talking about corpos.

>>66193870
nope that anon is right she did say that multiple times in a few streams when brought up

>>66193870
Her exact words were something like
>ear licking is unbased
The overt lewd side of ASMR is not for her. PG-13 is about as far as she'll go.

>>66187280
>pippa: no explanation necessary. the biggest small corpo chuuba ever
>rin: changed the mets in real time
>10ma: playbutton, connections and founding member of the most dominant small corpo
>mio: was the first major small corpo star
>lia: playbutton, connections and founding member of the most dominant small corpo
>lumi: strong in 2 small corpos + one of the biggest girls in the most dominant small corpo
>purin: the og
>shiina: playbutton + one of the biggest girls in the most dominant small corpo
>nene: playbutton + a founder of one of the longest running small corpos.
I would say drop yuko for prims' shiki. yuko's 2 claims to fame are exploiting gura/holo for dead subs + drinking her own piss.

>>66189333
this kills the holofag.
your dogos couldn't cut it in the "small pond" of small en corpos.

>>66193870
https://www.youtube.com/live/ngVg-f3H6YM?si=WWnJVcK9U261Ei6v&t=6514

>>66188999
>Rin literally changed the meta. She is the definition of a game changer.
What did she change? She got boosted by her companies agressive advertising and then she leeched off of hololive to keep those numbers and her numbers are falling ever since.
Tell me what "meta" did she change?

>>66179127
Hana was great. Great personality and beautiful singing voice.

>>66195160
Got fired + cleaned up vods. LetsGO v=T3e7gzC6Wm4

>>66193870
She won't do ear licking. She has stood firm on this for years now.

>>66148409
Actually based, I hate coomer ASMR, is this why people complain about her?

>>66196623
Yes. Braindead coomers are desperate to force every vtuber to become a Eien style whore with turbo slutty ASMR and a lewd twitter for dogshit ERP's, and if she's not they will hate on her.

I think i tried listening to Nene several times, but it just felt like any other generic asmr stream. I have an asmr oshi and i can't see why she should incline either, despite having a better voice than Nene. Makes me think these asmr chubas need to build parasocial ties during chatting to both keep and grow their audiences.

>>66196710
She is just a dog shit manipulative vtuber streamer in general. Her only value if she has any at all is her asmr this is a fact. She is just a generic e-thot that draws a line at ear licking asmr. But hey twitch whore meta for a one day viewer boost she thinks that is randy dandy.

>>66198742
You are braindead. I watched her on and off ever since she debuted. She has amazing zatsudans and can be very silly with her community. ASMR came much much later. Keep seething faggot you clearly don't even watch anything that is not ASMR.
And "manipulative" let me guess, every vtuber is somehow magically manipulating you? Voluntary donos are manipulative?

>>66145980
>tell me to dashite pyu pyu pyururu
which chuba does this?

>>66211365
take your pick https://bunkrr.su/d/rg3ZwlF8QrfyL

>>66147703
Don't Karin still have at least above 1000 viewers when streaming games?

>>66178876
>>66180806
>>66183785
>>66184000
>>66184048
>>66184211
Fuck you for dragging down the name of my Oshi

>>66145331
I think she's a good girl

>>66214018
Your oshi isn't much better.

>>66213728
No she has like 300-600 when she streams zelda

>>66193930
>her corpo died while she was still in it
True. Miori and Purin leaving Tsunderia signaled the deathblow of the company. Amiya was a non-factor. Urara leaving even before them was a canary in the coalmine moment. Speaking of Urara she is pretty influential as a manager then retired manager and streamer. She has had the ear and been the right hand women of two small corpo CEOs. No other chuuba has that level of influence.
>>66194518
Yuko and Shiki both played into alt-gura only Shiki did it earlier. There’s a reason she is called “The Red Gura.” If anything Dizzy should be put on the list in their place. And what did Nene do that was revolutionary or game changing in the industry? ASMR that twitch indies do but in a corpo and on Youtube doesn’t count.
You could argue spearheading kawaii’s kickstarter served as proof of concept to outside investors that there is money in the industry but it was Shiki who helped kawaii and made the final push to complete their goal. So that’s another point to Shiki.

>>66195127
Everyone in idol was cunnybaiting following Yuko’s lead and Rin proved that you can make it as a serious dry humor entertainer. She did go too far with the whole asexual thing and that shows that she pioneered this type of content and discovered where its limits are

>>66216941
Nene pushed for the holo jp experience in the game when EN vtubers were much more anti-parasocial.
She also one of the first few vtuber to use the short meta to incline on yt, along side with Mio and Shiki back in 2022. They were the first to have incline in yt without backing of big corpo brand name like niji or holo

>>66216941
>Asking what did Nene do besides ASMR
>Says Dizzy should be on that list
Holy mother of delusional apes. Dizzy is a great manager but she could be one of the worst streamers with the worst voice ever. You are out of your god damn mind.
Nene was literally the go-to GFE streamer that was not just your basic bandwagon jumper grifter but an actual weeb that lived in Japan at the time and knows the language and culture. And I don't think she was associated very much with ASMR in the early days.
>>66217010
>Rin pioneered "dry humor" as a vtuber
Yeah, you're a complete newfag just shut up.

>>66216941
What surprises me the most is that Ami and Lisa both inclined after Tsunderia collapsed. The ones who went to Phase massively inclined, from 2view to 4view (though there's debut buff in there). Not often you see a corpo acting as a debuff when it wasn't a black company just poorly run.

>>66217487
Lisa inclined off of Pippa collabs and Phasefags begging her to join their corpo. That really put a spotlight on her. She is a great singer but as a streamer in general? Meh...

>>66193930
>honestly any girl who was in a corpo at the time it went out of business should be disqualified from being in any "top small corpo chuuba of all time" list. if you were so good, you could have kept them alive.
This is the dumbest shit I've ever heard. No amount of talent can negate the impact of shitty management.

>>66217818
We’re talking about high performers and influential trendsetters. In business, companies collapse or restructure only after their star performers leave. This is absolutely relevant.

>>66150484
No one would fake that laugh. It's awful, and it's not even cute, why would you fake that? Also her asmr fucking hurts my ears regularly.

>>66217471
Who else does dry humor in the EN scene. I’m waiting. It’s just Rin then a bunch of indies and micro who try to copy Rin. Eventually one of them might bloom too.

>>66216941
Red Gura was Luto, Shiki was the original piss drinker

>>66145331
I was someone who subbed to Nene during her GTA boom period. Her personality was so sweet and endearing, but soon she started giving monologues about her former time as an office lader.

Sure fine. But then it kept happening.

Again and again. Stream after stream it was "let me tell you about my life experience youngan". Just endless office lady tales with the occasional stream exclusively of "???? When they Cry". I don't mind her not doing ear licking, but I man it's hard to find a single stream of her's that has any watch quality any more. I'm still subbed and I tune in every now and then but it just isn't the same as the early days. It doesn't help that whenenever I find anybody else I like in Kawaii they always ended up being the ones who graduate or do whatever the fuck Gen 3 did.

There's something cursed about that whole company. I mean cursed - as in some gypsy cursed the owner when he spilled water on her or something. Like nothing can go there way.

I still would like to but I just want old goofball Nene to come back.

>>66218438
But OL tale is the peak experience for cale/hag vtubers.

>>66217573
Lisa inclined because
>Pippa
>Phasefags pitying her after Tsunderia collapsed
>She's so kind and pure and perfect wife
Except Lisa has had, like, two collabs with Pippa after Pippa broke into 4view. Most of her post-collapse buff was wasted by never streaming. And it's only a matter of time before people grow tired of the "kind streamer" shtick or realize it's a shallow lie.

>>66217487
Ami inclined hard because she worked extremely hard as a streamer and did all the right things. She found her niche, she dedicated herself to her niche, she hasn't openly betrayed her fans, and she keeps shit consistent. Ami inclined in-spite of Tsunderia. Did not even need a bigger streamer buff. Although she did get some from Phase, it was very little.

>>66218438
>office lady monologues
This is why I stopped watching Airi (from Phase) too much wagie traumadumping

>>66218142
Shondo existed way before Rin and she did a ton of dry humor. It's not all she does and it's not one of her defining traits but she did it. Rin didn't pioneer shit.

>>66218223
You are clearly talking to a thread reader. Guy has no clue whats he talking about.

Lisa’s numbers are unimpressive.
Ami inclined because YouTube changed how they count viewers. She literally went from 150 to 300+ overnight same with with Meru who went from 50 to 100 and it made her briefly second guess graduating. Some girls were affected by YT changing more than others.

>>66218898
Lisa streams at 7 est which means she overlaps with Lia and Lumi and a lot of others so it was always hard for me to watch her.

>>66145331
Bitch is faker than pamela anderson's tits

>>66217818
He is correct. Nijisanji is a shit black company but was massively larger than Hololive because of key JP members.
Kawaii Production is a live solely because of Nene. The moment Nene leaves, Kawaii collapses.
Phase Connect grew solely because of Pippa. Although I would add Tenma as well, because Tenma worked her way up the 3view ladder into 4view at the same time. She was a ruthless business woman in the beginning.
Tsunderia was kept alive by Mio.
A talent may be good, but it takes special S-tier talents to keep a shit company from killing itself. This thread is retarded because Nene would be massively further if she was in a better corpo like Phase or Hololive. She keeps Kawaii alive but at the cost of her growth and power.

>>66219050
>Shondo
Doing skits about her “eternal womb” and “your time is over whore” and “nice hitler” is the opposite of dry humor. It’s fucking spicy humor. And shondo is a cunnybaiting pioneer. I said Rin does the entertainment thing without pandering to sex which is something that even so-called non-lewd smallpo streamers like Pippa “um askually I’m unironically a virgin” Pipkin does. Rin and Tenma are the only ones on that list who entertain on their merits without booba/cunny pandering. Shondo does.

>>66184211
I'd like to see Kawaii survive and grow but I doubt it. Char is still a 2view somehow. Until the company grows enough to uplift their gen 1 into the consistent 3 view territory, it's just copium. A single talent does not make a company. They can only keep it on life support.

>>66219217
Pippa gave the initial growth
Tenma and Lia provided the next wave of growth by getting Phase exposure to new audiences
Gen3 ad campaign was the next wave

>>66219199
Nice reference 30+ year old faggot.

>>66219288
>picks his own wrong examples of what a dry humor is just to prove me wrong
what level of schizophrenia is this?

>>66192866
mare makes me want to learn jp. she apparently does hypnosis or something.

>>66219559
I disagree, Tenma was keeping pace with Pippa's CCV if not surpassing it until the dramafag buff. But Tenma basically retained her audience identity throughout and leveraged networking, like OTV, to pump her numbers. Tenma was on the path of success without Pippa. Tenma was a twitch 4view long before anyone not-Pippa was a 3view.

>>66219972
Tenma has had 2 months in her career averaging 4view. Lia has had 1.
Pippa has had 16 months.

Im not taking anything away from Tenma (or Lia) because their growth is based on themselves and their ability to be seen by new non-Phase audience, but Tenma is like 1/3 of the way to Pippa. You can sit there and "yeah but" all you want, but numbers don't lie. Tenma is not withing 2,000 ccv or 100,000 subs of Pippa. To try and act like she is even 3 levels below Pippa is a laugh

>>66220413
You must be watching only Tenma's youtube then, because Tenma regularly gets 4views on twitch. If Pippa never got her dramafag buff, Tenma would still be where she is. If you're too retarded to understand that, that's a you problem. Considering that you are trying to use Tenma's youtube numbers when Tenma has always been primarily a twitch streamer... I think you're just retarded.

>>66220650
>Tenma would still be where she is
no she wouldn't. She never gets the Henya collab buff. the only reason she got 3rd wheeled into that spot is because of Pippa.

the only reason she was on Fillian the other day? Was because of Pippa. These people are Pippa friends first.

>>66220413
Don't be retarded.

>>66220794
>1000 on twitch
is this supposed to impress me?
also that is for the week. Let's see how she did last month, and the last 3 months.

I didn't know kanpainiki had such a massive inferiority complex

>>66220773
Tenma would have found her way to Henya.
I know it is impossible for pipniggers to grasp, but the girls in Phase can achieve on their own.

Pippa had nothing to do with Tenma networking onigiri, her interviews, fuck i have lost count at the big things Tenma has done etc. Pippa had nothing to do with Lia networking Pomu, Neuro, manlybadasshero etc
Pippa didn't make those plays. Tenma and Lia made those plays. They made it happen for themselves.

You see here, >>66192248 Pippa and Lia stopped collabing in April/May. Lia's avg was about 330. Pippa and Lia didn't interact a single time on stream until a random watchalong in December, and during that next 6 months Lia tripled with her breakout coming in September when she got Pomu exposure.

>>66221451
>>66220413
>>66220650
an important point you all are alluding to but are missing is what makes phase so successful is it isn't just one girl. yes pippa is the biggest nobody is disputing that, but phase has live 6 livers (and counting because more girls will step up in the future) that are capable of driving the bus and have risen to the occasion in huge spots to represent the company.

typically in a small corpo, you have one, and everything goes to that one while the rest just sit there as background players. it's like the hey arnold episode: get the ball to tucker. vt will tell you pippa is phase's tucker, but reality is she there are no tuckers in phase and I can site a dozen examples of girls being in huge spots while pippa is on the sidelines.
the fact that you can go "yeah of course pippa, but look at tenma, or lia, or shiina, or lumi etc" and you can make a case speaks to the strength of the corpo and why they are so strong.

200 posts dorya

>>66154802
https://www.youtube.com/@UtadaZoey
Utada Zoey Dayo

>>66219972
>dramafag buff
Pippa has had that since 2021 but was only noticeable in February 2022 when her ccv jumped from 100 to 300 and her core audience was 80% dramafags.
>OTV
Tenma failed to leverage otv in anyway. She bitched that they were treating her like a monkey, which they were, and she cut all contact with them. Tenma is too angry to be subservient to OTV

>>66147703
god i love her so much

>>66147703
The Queen.

Her fake laugh which she sometimes forgets to do (lol) is so fucking grating.

>>66219199
I keep seeing the accusations of fakeness, but they never include examples.

>>66208177
This is a fucking hard cope anon she's boring and without asmr she has no entertainment value her live ccv tells the story I don't have too fill in the details about it with evidence like that

>>66219354
Charzu 3viewed literally last night my guy

>>66232411
Nene was one of the biggest small corpo vtubers before other agencies exploded. She had 200-300 ccv on her regular streams and gameplays. I know that you have a hateboner for Nene but you could like, not lie like a faggot and be objective. Her zatsus are one of the best on the EN side. You are incredibly obsessed with pure ccv which tells me that even a 70-80 difference in views will magically increase the entertainment value for you.
Please give me your example of an entertaining vtuber in a small corpo world.

>>66145331
Nene is an angel.

>>66235924
...of death.

>>66235286
No i dont think i will anon or rather maybe even nene herself i have to go return some video tapes

>>66235924
She sure sounds like one.

>>66158431
If a small corpo chuuba gets at least 100 ccv they are doing something very right.

>>66236642
the bar has changed. I would say 250ccv.